First Aid for rec.skydiving
Dan Bergmen
years, I would like to suggest a possible solution to all the
worthless noise that gets posted here that gets so many complaints.
Several of the other news groups I read that have similar problems
are moderated. There is an appointed (or volunteered) moderator that
filters the posts (based on a published submittal policy) and chucks the
worthless flame drivel overboard so it can sink out of sight. And sometimes
the moderator chastises the immature and incorrigible little brats off-line
so we don't have to sort through the rantings ourselves.
I don't know what is required to set this n.g. up in order to make it
a moderated one. Requires the scrutiny of a certified bit.head. This
might make it a bit more involved to post as well but it just may be
worth it to keep the postings that most of us would like to read and
attract back those worthy individuals who have left in disgust.
Any moderator wannabes out there?
JMHO.
Dan Bergmen
(who started back when Parachutist was pretty thin...and the only other
skydiving publications were the Spotter and TNT.)
Wings2fly8
>From: da...@sr.hp.com (Dan Bergmen)
>volunteered) moderator that
>filters the posts
>Any moderator wannabes out there?
We'll have to go with fastftail..
Rhonda Lea
>After following this n.g. (and many others) over the last several
>years, I would like to suggest a possible solution to all the
>worthless noise that gets posted here that gets so many complaints.
>Any moderator wannabes out there?
ROTFLMAO!
The one remark I snipped:
>This
>might make it a bit more involved to post as well but it just may be
>worth it to keep the postings that most of us would like to read and
>attract back those worthy individuals who have left in disgust.
leaves me wondering who "most of us" are...as well as who the "worthy
individuals" happen to be.
Y'know...we have threads on this. You can search DN and find out why your
proposal isn't going to fly.
My suggestion is that it's really easy to put people like me in your kill file
and leave us there. Then the ng can be what you want it to be. If the worthy
individuals were willing to take the time to do that, then they'd have no
problem either. It would be the newsgroup of their dreams and the rest of us
could still have fun.
Most of the people I know of who have left who are truly worthy have not done
so because of the noise, but because the ng was just too great a demand on
their time. And the worthiest of them all...well, he still turns up now and
then.
rl
Rhonda Lea Kirk NCB#16 BJDS#2 INAC#77 PSLCK#1 SBG#1 A-29204
Beep someone you love. Follow me to alt.nosebeeping
___________________________________________________________________
Though lovers be lost, love shall not... Dylan Thomas
Josh
the newsgroup be moderated.
I would love to have less nonsense to sort through, but I don't trust
you to do it for me. We have to do it ourselves - it's the price we pay
for free speach.
Proposed pre employment test for the newsgroup moderator:
Please do the following in a manner that is agreeable to everyone:
1) Define obscenity
2) What kind of music should I listen to?
3) Is there a god? (yes or no) note: we all have to agree with the
answer.
4) AADs are (a good idea, a bad idea, should be banned, should be
mandated, should be on your main)
5) Define funny.
6) Have you ever been convicted of a crime?
6 a) Should that disqualify you from being the news group moderator?
from being president?
6 b) What if the law stated that you couldn't use the water fountain
because you fell into some arbitrary category such as "pro NG
moderator"?
Gotta go...anyone have more?
-Josh
Dan Bergmen wrote:
>
> After following this n.g. (and many others) over the last several
> years, I would like to suggest a possible solution to all the
> worthless noise that gets posted here that gets so many complaints.
>
> Several of the other news groups I read that have similar problems
> are moderated. There is an appointed (or volunteered) moderator that
> filters the posts (based on a published submittal policy) and chucks the
> worthless flame drivel overboard so it can sink out of sight. And sometimes
> the moderator chastises the immature and incorrigible little brats off-line
> so we don't have to sort through the rantings ourselves.
>
> I don't know what is required to set this n.g. up in order to make it
> a moderated one. Requires the scrutiny of a certified bit.head. This
> might make it a bit more involved to post as well but it just may be
> worth it to keep the postings that most of us would like to read and
> attract back those worthy individuals who have left in disgust.
>
> Any moderator wannabes out there?
>
TooyT
Wrote:
>and the rest of us
>could still have fun.
>Rhonda Lea Kirk NCB#16 BJDS#2 INAC#77 PSLCK#1
SBG#1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,101 & 1/2 A-29204
***********************************
I having fun :-P snuffy
DShea95058
Rhonda Lea
>SBG#1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,101 & 1/2 A-29204
>***********************************
>I having fun :-P snuffy
Me too...and Paul says: LAST WORD!! ;)
Flyincamra
Snuff, you're one of those rare and precious people who could have fun with a
rock and a cardboard box... ;-)
bskyrat
do this sport. It's freedom and one of the freedoms we have is our freedom
of speech. I think we as individuals can filter out what we don't want to
read without someone else making decisions for us. It aint really broke and
it doesn't need fixin.
Chris
bsk...@lcc.net
DShea95058 wrote in message
<19990208175140...@ng-fa1.aol.com>...
>Live Free or die.
Jazz Lawndart
"Moderator Chokes on AAD While Avoiding Hookturn!"
Well,
one could always hope right?
Jazz
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USPA Skydiver
>1) Define obscenity
IRS
>2) What kind of music should I listen to?
PROP BLAST
>3) Is there a god? (yes or no) note: we all have to agree with the
>answer.
WHY DO BIRDS FLY?
>4) AADs are (a good idea, a bad idea, should be banned, should be
>mandated, should be on your main)
ALTITUDE AWARENESS DISTRACTOR (AAD) - NO, IT'S A BAD IDEA!!
>5) Define funny.
YOU
>6) Have you ever been convicted of a crime?
YES, FOR YELLING COPS!!
> 6 a) Should that disqualify you from being the news group moderator?
>from being president?
AS LONG AS YOU ARE AROUND, NOPE.
> 6 b) What if the law stated that you couldn't use the water fountain
>because you fell into some arbitrary category such as "pro NG
>moderator"?
THERE IS ALWAYS ALHAMBRA, TRUST ME!!!
>Gotta go...anyone have more?
GOTO PEE NOW, C YA
USPA Skydiver
The most hated name on rec.skydiving
Save me Slick!!
Espen
> After following this n.g. (and many others) over the last several
> years, I would like to suggest a possible solution to all the
> worthless noise that gets posted here that gets so many complaints.
Sometimes that 'worthless noise' can be quite entertaining and gives this
newsgroup a 'personal touch' if you ask me.
> Several of the other news groups I read that have similar problems
> are moderated. There is an appointed (or volunteered) moderator that
> filters the posts (based on a published submittal policy) and chucks the
> worthless flame drivel overboard so it can sink out of sight. And sometimes
> the moderator chastises the immature and incorrigible little brats off-line
> so we don't have to sort through the rantings ourselves.
Yup. We don't want USPA to mandate AADs but we want someone to decide what we
can and cannot say on a newsgroup. Yeah, freedom of choice is a lot more
important than freedom of speech. I was on a mailing list a couple of years
back that went from unmoderated to moderated. Basically, the owner of the
list scanned all emails and removed the ones he found to be improper. The
result; most of the people on the mailing list left and made another one. Is
that what you want? A lot of people leaving this ng? I bet you would loose a
lot more information than noise that way.
> I don't know what is required to set this n.g. up in order to make it
> a moderated one. Requires the scrutiny of a certified bit.head. This
> might make it a bit more involved to post as well but it just may be
> worth it to keep the postings that most of us would like to read and
> attract back those worthy individuals who have left in disgust.
I have no idea who these 'worthy individuals who have left in disgust' are,
but there are still people around whom I consider 'worthy'. I'd rather have
someone here that stays, despite of the 'noise', than someone who left
because of it. It takes a lot more character to stay in hardship than to
leave IMHO.
> Any moderator wannabes out there?
If there are, get off this newsgroup and found your own moderated one! Don't
fix something that ain't broken. Just because *you* don't like it, doesn't
mean *everyone* feels the same way.
> Dan Bergmen
> (who started back when Parachutist was pretty thin...and the only other
> skydiving publications were the Spotter and TNT.)
Just because you've hung around for a while doesn't mean you have the right to
try to control this newsgroup. Make your own if you feel this one sucks. Noone
is stopping you, but *I* will try to stop you if you try to control this one.
IMNSHO
Espen
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SBozo
lets regulate our asses right off the net ..........better yet Why dont you
quit bitchin' ,some of us like it this way....moderator my ass!
jim
Glen Baker
> I would like to suggest a possible solution to all the
> worthless noise that gets posted here that gets so many complaints.
> I don't know what is required to set this n.g. up in order to make it
> a moderated one.
Can it be done? Yes. There is indeed a process (requiring a formal proposal,
a discussion period, and a formal vote).
Should it be done? Opinions will be all over the map.
Will it be done? No. It would never get past a vote. Too many people would
strongly object.
Are there other options? Yes. One would be to create a new group on the
order of rec.skydiving.moderated. The process of setting up such a group
would be straightforward and would (in my humble opinion) have at least
a prayer of passing the voting process.
However, speaking as a newsgroup moderator (yeah, I'm one of those) I
would like to point out that moderating a *discussion* group would be an
absolutely horrendous task...nobody in their right mind would want the job
(or have the time for it), particularly in a group where opinion plays
such an important role (should I have an RSL? an AAD? Are hook turns cool?
Is <insert DZ owner> a <insert explitive>?).
Signal to noise is an inherent problem of usenet...common suggestions are
killfiles and moderation, neither of which are without their own problems.
..glen
(who hasn't been skydiving as long as Dan.
who works close enough to Dan to be able to shoot him with a tube stow.
who can remember what usenet was like before aol and this "web" thingy.)
Fastsftail
>worthless noise that gets posted here that gets so many complaints.
>
>are moderated. There is an appointed (or volunteere
hey you, yeah you ...you...fucking nazi...go start your own ng.
you' ll probably insist that i have a cypress (fot one) and hook turn UPWIND
too. good luck.
i haven' t read the other resonses yet but i' m ready to start slashing my
wrists
pleez tell me youre trolling..
Fastsftail
>>Any moderator wannabes out there?
>
> We'll have to go with fastftail..
that' s f a s t f l a i l but thank for thinking of me.
by the way...i don' t moderate the ng.
what i do is step up to the plate to publicly torture weasels like you who
don' t have the common decency to place that gun to their own heads (or at
least lay low). see "controlling those pesky ng sociopaths" for detailed
instructions AND that "fastflail, fastgas" thread that you started a couple of
weeks ago where you started shit with me and i shut you up in two exchanges.
youre not the genius you think you are frank. youre just pathetic and
persistent.
no frank it' s "sherriff fastflail" to you. fuck with women, children and the
infirm as you do and i' m in your shit. stay down frank...stay down.
Climbnjump
>My suggestion is that it's really easy to put people like me in your kill
>file
nahhhhhh, too much fun pickin on ya and needlin ya
Rhonda Lea
>>My suggestion is that it's really easy to put people like me in your kill
>>file
>nahhhhhh, too much fun pickin on ya and needlin ya
I thought you were having fun sitting on my lap.
Climbnjump
oops, hit send by accident, wasnt finished
>>nahhhhhh, too much fun pickin on ya and needlin ya
>
>I thought you were having fun sitting on my lap.
>
and i retort in grossness..........
just givin ya a cheap thrill............did ya like the vibrator effect? u
really surprised me when ya told me u could probably get off from
that......hope it didnt smell too bad........
Climbnjump
rhondalea mouthed on again:
>Vinny mouthed off again:
>
>>>My suggestion is that it's really easy to put people like me in your kill
>>>file
>
Rhonda Lea
>really surprised me when ya told me u could probably get off from
>that......hope it didnt smell too bad........
That explains why a pack of dogs followed me home.
Y'know, I think I'm not talking to you...at least until next week. ;P
SBozo
Hey anybody......can i be a "worthy person"
I promise not to cuss an stuff.
jim JM TM GW DW
Rhonda Lea
>Just because you've hung around for a while doesn't mean you have the right to
>try to control this newsgroup. Make your own if you feel this one sucks. Noone
>is stopping you, but *I* will try to stop you if you try to control this one.
Someone catch me; I just swooned. ;)
And yes, it is posted.
Rhonda Lea
the
>infirm as you do and i' m in your shit. stay down frank...stay down.
FWIW, Bruce, he did me a kindness...and he doesn't even know I know. As much
as I trust you, I have to give him the benefit of the doubt.
TooyT
Wrote:
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No crap like we don't allready have enuff conservatives at USPA HQ trying to
regulate the fun out of skydiving now sumone wants to anal out the ng. Whut
next, spel police? ha ha ha :-) snuffy
aka Rufus Coyote Anthropological Philosopher, Master Skydiver (Ret) Expert on
Sheep, Humor, Skydiving egos & the nature of the inner beast.WARNING! Skydiving
is a high risk activity and Mistakes may create a bounce causing
bobo's or DEATH! :-P OL1262
DShea95058
>> worthless noise that gets posted here that gets so many complaints
Mabye i am stretching it a bit with this analogy but here goes. I am pretty
new to the sport, only about a year and a half, but i rember hearing some more
experienced jumpers talking about the sport back in the old days. They were
refering to all the luxeries we have as skydivers these days. They were saying
that we should be grateful for what we have. It seems that when the sport was
just starting to take off, skydivers were considered worthless noise by
airports and the airline industry. They wanted us gone. They wanted to get
rid of us because were just a nother annoyance. People fought for us. And
look where we are today. worthless noise on this ng might be annoying to some
people, but funk that, you never know what might become of wothless noise.
timshea FFL#1
SBozo
>next, spel police? ha ha ha :-) snuffy
>
Oh Oh if the spell police show up you better run...snuff. where ya been
storing up material?
jim
TooyT
Wrote:
>Sometimes that 'worthless noise' can be quite entertaining and gives this
>newsgroup a 'personal touch' if you ask me.
Usuall them band width freaks is just closet control freaks that have narrow
slow minds or views and don't like freedom of speech unless it kiss's their
ideas up. Let them sulk in a corner if they afraid to git in the ring of free
fighting ideas Next they will want to burn books and radical thoughts. :-)
snuffy
TooyT
Wrote:
>Oh Oh if the spell police show up you better run...snuff. where ya been
>storing up material?
>
> jim
Nahhhh my mind has been off skydiving fer a few weeks, I been web surfing the
camp ground dictionarys and hi-way maps trying to lay a 3 or 400 mile route
between campgrounds so I cud go out and explore the old intercontenital U.S.&
State Hi-ways, like Route 66, US 83, 2 & 50. and Calif 395 or 101
I'm thinking of wasteing my comeback money on seeing the US & Canada cuz
skydiving is becoming to anal and mainstream, DZ's ain't no place fer a free
thinking coyote, well maybe the outlaw dz's are. I'll surely pass a few outlaw
dz's somewhere, who knows I may even stop and drink a beer comit a sin and do a
tandem. Maybe Not cuz its gonna be all back road stuff. Who knows I might find
a farmer or rancher with a steerman, B18 or Piper Cub in a pasture somewhere.
who never heard of the uspa or faa ha ha ha hoo ha ha :-* snuffy
Glen Baker
> hey you, yeah you ...you...fucking nazi...go start your own ng.
Sorry, that's a totally inappropriate charactarization of both Dan's
character and his posting. It is, however, quite representative of the
issue that he raised.
Look, Dan pointed out something that he saw as a problem (noise to signal
ratio) and raised a possible solution. He did NOT advocate that solution,
he just asked what people thought about the idea.
Reasonable people will respond the idea that he raised (not a new idea,
not in my opinion a good idea) without stooping to ad-hominem attacks.
Dan's original message related to signal/noise ratio. Presently on my
system there are 24 responses. Of those 24 responses 9 relate to the
original question and 15 have literally nothing to do with the thread
(and that's counting the "Live Free or Die" posting as relating TO the
thread). That gives a signal/noise ratio of 60%...not too impressive.
..glen
Glen Baker
> hey you, yeah you ...you...fucking nazi...go start your own ng.
Sorry, that's a totally inappropriate charactarization of both Dan's
character and his posting. It is, however, quite representative of the
issue that he raised.
Look, Dan pointed out something that he saw as a problem (noise to signal
ratio) and raised a possible solution. He did NOT advocate that solution,
he just asked what people thought about the idea.
Reasonable people will respond to the idea that he raised (not a new idea,
not in my opinion a good idea) without stooping to ad-hominem attacks.
Dan's original message related to signal/noise ratio. Presently on my
system there are 24 responses. Of those 24 responses 9 relate to the
original question and 15 have literally nothing to do with the thread
(and that's counting the "Live Free or Die" posting as relating TO the
thread). That gives a signal/noise ratio of 37.5%...not too impressive.
..glen
ehgo...@unix.amherst.edu
twice:
<snip>
> Dan's original message related to signal/noise ratio. Presently on my
> system there are 24 responses. Of those 24 responses 9 relate to the
> original question and 15 have literally nothing to do with the thread
> (and that's counting the "Live Free or Die" posting as relating TO the
> thread). That gives a signal/noise ratio of 37.5%...not too impressive.
Does double-posting count as noise? :)
Soft openings,
Marty
Home DZ: Airborne Adventures
Northampton, MA (7B2)
NCB #317
Wings2fly8
>From: Glen Baker
>FastBail <fasts...@aol.com> held forth:
>> hey you! yeah you ...you...fucking nazi...go start your own ng; I'm NOT
psychotic!!!
Glen replies:
> Sorry, that's a totally inappropriate charactarization of both Dan's
character and his posting. It is, however, quite representative of the
issue that he raised..
>without stooping to ad-hominem attacks.
>not too impressive.
Oh, leave him alone; he's like that only when he's misplaced his thorazine,
or when the lab rats/gerbils come up missing..
Besides, he's kinda cute when he's "mad."
Dr. Owen Spock
Patton State Hospital
San Bernardino, CA.
MOM1398
I VOLUNTEER, I VOLUNTEER !!!!!!
Here's what I wanna see on rec.skydiving.
let's start with a bunch of pansey assed crybaby's that do nothing but complain
about somebody picking on somebody and everybody is being a meany, and it's not
fair, so we pussy boys need to band together, tattle tell on the big bullys,
and make this NG nice,nice politically correct by making someone a tin star
wearin NG sherrif that wont let you play with the other boys and girls if you
cant play nice.
Then lets add in some hard assed foul mouthed son-of- a -bitches who do nothing
but fucking cuss at you and tell you what kind of a moronic dip-shit you are.
These are the ones who use all the bad words we're not supposed to use like
Fuck, shit, piss, tits, pussy,asshole,penis,etc.
Next, lets flavor it with just a sprinkle of absolute hot-shit
know-it-all-about-everything egg- heads who are the incarnation of God himself
because they are soooo perfect. Of course in this category, we have to include
the ones that know more about something than you do, So I'm going to ride your
stupid un Ivy-league educated ass and everytime you post something, I'm going
to nit-pick apart your useless words, use them against you and show the whole
world what kind of a total wasted sperm cell you are, and what kind of absolute
rocket science(i-know more-than-that-pin
head-Einstein)brilliant(I-should-rule-the-world)genious I am.
Don't forget the ones who are just Anal enough to crap on you becus yer spelin
reely suks, und you got no brains cuse yer moomy $daddy wer cusins from sum
bacwood rednek cuntry,so wy dont you shutup cauese you dont no nuttin
anyhow!!!!!
Just for a change of pace, we could have a few DZ owners post self promotions
so they can drum up more buiseness and rape us poor hard working folk who cant
afford to make more than one jump a weekend so all we can do is self
importantly complain about how nobody is supposed to use the NG for free
advertising so if you dont stop I'm not gonna come to your DZ and I'm gonna
tell all my friends not to come and nobody is gonna come and your gonna go out
of buiseness.
Now for a little twist, we could get some gnat brained twit students asking
assinine questions about shit they learned in the FJC, but they think the NG
Gods know better than their Instructor who they should be asking in the first
place, because they are so fucking stupid to listen to someone trying to save
their life in the first place. Of course the only ones to give these morons
the time of day should be the self important all knowing-I-got-my-D lisence 200
(accident waiting to happen)jump wonders who also wont listen to the wise ones
trying to keep them alive.
Just to keep things interesting we can have a bunch of non Americans complain
about us being arogant pigs who are obsessed with talking about oursexual
prowess and sticking our tongues out for the camera. You know, the same ones
who come to America because the Skydiving is soo fucking much better here, and
all they do is be obnoxious, complain about the prices they pay for the shitty
services they get, and oh don't forget, they walk around the DZ in nothing but
those skimpy little speedo's with thier hairy lily white Butt crack showing and
all you want to do is Vomit on thier bad hair piece.
Lets see some more of those I-aint-got a-life-so I make my friends in cyber
space and have carpul tunnel syndrome(thats why Im never at the DZ) from typing
so much just so I can kiss your Skygod ass on this nothing is more important
News Group that is the center of my Universe.
Of course I'll let a few try to sell their Piece-of-shit-ragged-out-only-3000
jumps-made in 1981-just like new gear to some newbie fool sucker willing to buy
a bed sheet if it's cheap so he can make hook turns and be really cool and
famous like the rest of the Bootie wearing face hiding helmet God's on the
planet who are only your friend long enough to grab a bottle of the free beer
you just bought off the bar and try to talk you into paying next weeks paycheck
for coaching jumps with them because if you dont you will never learn how to
skydive and youll spend the rest of eternity doing solos.
Can't forget the bowling alley refugees who demand that there should be an act
of congress forcing all bird shit & assholes to wear an AAD to forbid the
natural course of Mother Nature in her job for the higher evolution of Mankind!
God forbid we lose anymore should-not-propogate people-who breath my oxegyn
longer than was intended
Just to keep things interesting, once in a blue moon we can have on and off
topic shit-slinging contests on the subject God, religion, Meany Republicans,
Crybaby communist democrats, The world sucks, The Government has a conspiracy,
Does Monica swallow, My daddy can beat up your daddy, the best way to fuck
sheep, Gee boy, your mouth sure looks perty, head downers are freaks, flat
flyers are fucking dinosaurs, AAHHH the good old days when people had respect,
Skygod was once a good title, Taxes, Death, ETC....ETC....ETC.
I'm sure I've left a few worthy people out of the loop on what I would let on
the NG if you make me moderator. Fuck you if I offended you.
First aid for rec.skydiving????? Are you really that much of a nasal snot to
think something must be done to our precious oh so important NG????
Moderate??? Moderation? MODERATION???? FUCK YOU AND YOUR MODERATION!!!! I WANT
IT HARD AND RAW!! BRING IT ON,GIVE ME WHAT YOU GOT!!! LETS PAAARTYYYY!!!! MAKE
IT ROUGH, MAKE IT SOFT, SWIRL IT AROUND AND SLAM IT HOME BAAABYYYY!!!! LETS
SKYDIVE,LETS FORNICATE, LETS CAUSE MAYHEM, LETS SWAP SPIT, LETS FIGHT, LETS
LIVE AND DIE!!!
Blue SkyZ
DJ Mike
The only thing guaranteed in Skydiving is...you WILL land !
MOM1398
Lewis, I hit the wrong button and didn't get to finish, so here goes.
>Moderate??? Moderation? MODERATION???? FUCK YOU AND YOUR MODERATION!!!! I
>WANT
>IT HARD AND RAW!! BRING IT ON,GIVE ME WHAT YOU GOT!!! LETS PAAARTYYYY!!!!
>MAKE
>IT ROUGH, MAKE IT SOFT, SWIRL IT AROUND AND SLAM IT HOME BAAABYYYY!!!! LETS
>SKYDIVE,LETS FORNICATE, LETS CAUSE MAYHEM, LETS SWAP SPIT, LETS FIGHT, LETS
>LIVE AND DIE, LETS PAAAARTYYYY!!!!
Then when we get home from the DZ we can get on our precious little NG and talk
about whatever the fuck we want to talk about!!!
I VOLUNTEER!!!
MAKE ME THE MODERATOR!!!
Rhonda Lea
>MAKE ME THE MODERATOR!!!
You have my vote, Mike. ;)
TooyT
Wrote:
>>>Any moderator wannabes out there?
>
>I VOLUNTEER, I VOLUNTEER !!!!!!
>
>Here's what I wanna see on rec.skydiving.
>let's start with a bunch of pansey assed crybaby's that do nothing but
>complain
>about somebody picking on somebody and everybody is being a meany, and it's
>not
>fair, so we pussy boys need to band together, tattle tell on the big bullys,
>and make this NG nice,nice politically correct by making someone a tin star
>wearin NG sherrif that wont let you play with the other boys and girls if you
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And who in their right mind is gonna trust some guy named mom from skygod
country as freedom of opinion police? Although your syntax and written style do
appeal to goofy coyotes :-P snuffy
TooyT
Wrote:
>I VOLUNTEER!!!
>MAKE ME THE MODERATOR!!!
>
>
>
>
>
> DJ Mike
>
>The only thing guaranteed in Skydiving is...you WILL land !
La fin de l'univers doit être à hand!Repent, repentez-vous! : Snuffy -P
new...@jps.net
da...@sr.hp.com (Dan Bergmen) wrote:
> After following this n.g. (and many others) over the last several
> years, I would like to suggest a possible solution to all the
> worthless noise that gets posted here that gets so many complaints.
>
> Several of the other news groups I read that have similar problems
> filters the posts (based on a published submittal policy) and chucks the
> worthless flame drivel overboard so it can sink out of sight. And sometimes
> the moderator chastises the immature and incorrigible little brats off-line
> so we don't have to sort through the rantings ourselves.
>
> I don't know what is required to set this n.g. up in order to make it
> might make it a bit more involved to post as well but it just may be
> worth it to keep the postings that most of us would like to read and
> attract back those worthy individuals who have left in disgust.
>
> Any moderator wannabes out there?
>
>
> Dan Bergmen
> (who started back when Parachutist was pretty thin...and the only other
> skydiving publications were the Spotter and TNT.)
>
Dan, though I respect you as a skydiver and an instructor, I have to
totally disagree with you on this point. Much of the "noise" on the NG is
quite entertaining and can actually bring up some relevant points.
Installing moderators on this NG would defeat the purpose of free speech and
open and sometimes argumentative discussion on a discussion group. If we give
up the right to call each other names and have pissing contests, we might as
well just get our information from the morning newspaper or Real TV. This is
just like TV. You don't have to read or participate in the discussions if you
dont like to sort through the garbage. Kinda like panning for gold. You have
to sift a lot of mud, but you'll find the gold hidden there somewhere. Blue
Skies... maybe even this afternoon. Joe Carroll When I get old, I'll drive a
Volvo in the fast lane at 35 mph.
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David
>>>Any moderator wannabes out there?
>
>I VOLUNTEER, I VOLUNTEER !!!!!!
>
>Here's what I wanna see on rec.skydiving.
(snip)
Well, I'm getting kind of tired of a certain NG regular myself, so I'm
going to go ahead and post this naked pic of her.
Enjoy.
http://www.ionet.net/~davidefs/rhondanaked.html
Your former friend,
David
Michelle Hoyle
> >>Any moderator wannabes out there?
> I VOLUNTEER, I VOLUNTEER !!!!!!
> Here's what I wanna see on rec.skydiving.
<BIG snip>
> Blue SkyZ
> DJ Mike
Mike, you need to learn to say how you feel ... ;)
'Shell
---
Just remember: it takes 42 muscles to frown, and only four to
pull the trigger of a decent sniper rifle.
---
Rhonda Lea
>going to go ahead and post this naked pic of her.
If you'd asked me, I'd have given you a better picture. ;)
TooyT
>MOM1398 wrote:
>
>> >>Any moderator wannabes out there?
>> I VOLUNTEER, I VOLUNTEER !!!!!!
>> Here's what I wanna see on rec.skydiving.
>
>
>
>> Blue SkyZ
>> DJ Mike
>
>Mike, you need to learn to say how you feel ... ;)
>
>'Shell
***********************************
Shhhhhhh everyone shhhhhh the canuks are gitting involved. They are like
Americans from the 1950's got strange social customs and laws. But their
prisons are nicer than ours. We talking Norther US burbs possum lodge stuff
here, beyond strange yankees :-P snuffy
Josh
David: "Hey Josh, got any naked pictures of your wife?"
Me: "No, I don't."
David: "Want to buy some?"
-Josh
john berntsen
;-)
Mike Spurgeon
mom...@aol.com (MOM1398) wrote:
> Moderate??? Moderation? MODERATION???? FUCK YOU AND YOUR MODERATION!!!!
What're you on?
Got any left?
Espen
Sorry jim, you're too late. The worthy ones have already left the building.
:o)
Espen
"The Flying Norwegian"
Espen
>
> Someone catch me; I just swooned. ;)
Ehh...that's a good thing, right? ;o)
jump...@my-dejanews.com
rhon...@aol.com (Rhonda Lea) wrote:
>
> FWIW, Bruce, he did me a kindness...and he doesn't even know I know. As much
> as I trust you, I have to give him the benefit of the doubt.
>
> Beep someone you love. Follow me to alt.nosebeeping
> ___________________________________________________________________
> Though lovers be lost, love shall not... Dylan Thomas
>
starting to feel lonely.
Diane
SBozo
>dz's somewhere,
shit snuff i know where a good one is.......its the home of the outlaws
jimOL#81
SBozo
>:o)
>
>Espen
>
AWWWWW SHOOT !! the worthy ones are gone..... rhondas' swooning.....its
raining.........
AWWWWW SHOOT !!
jim
TooyT
Wrote:
Ewe mean Vegas right? I'm going to a military association reunion at RENO in
June prolly.
Depends on wheather I drive through Utah or Ariz. If I cum up through Phonix
and Vegas, might stop by and say hi, have a beer
in honor of our in common things. Sqidism. I mean Don't hold ewe responsible
for being a brown shoe sailor, your a flying elvis that makes up for being a
ex-airdale . :-* snuffy
TooyT
>I can hear it now:
>David: "Hey Josh, got any naked pictures of your wife?"
>Me: "No, I don't."
>David: "Want to buy some?"
>-Josh
***********************************
I seen a news report that females 18 to 39 suffer more sexuall dysfunction than
any age group of men. No wonder ewe three legged pigs have to use pictures.
Throw in a RW Queen attitude and ewe got instant Gloria Stienam. Dang the DZ
luv sceene ain't looking to good since I retired huh? Course all I got wuz "
Snuffy, we love you but your such a old flail pig! then a slap to my face, heh
heh what a rush. got to luv them hefiers iragardless of their emotional
problems and penis envie ha ha ha :-P me
David
>I can hear it now:
>David: "Hey Josh, got any naked pictures of your wife?"
>
>Me: "No, I don't."
>
>David: "Want to buy some?"
No no no, not me. Now if you want one of *my* wife.....
Nah, everyone's seen her naked already.
Davy
Espen
>
> No crap like we don't allready have enuff conservatives at USPA HQ trying to
> regulate the fun out of skydiving now sumone wants to anal out the ng. Whut
> next, spel police? ha ha ha :-) snuffy
Don't worry Snuffy. If this newsgroup was ever to be moderated, you'd be the
first to go. That's a promise :o). Oh, I would be right behind you btw.
Espen
"The Flying Norwegian"
David
Alright, alright..... Who's running the auto refresh on the "pic"
page?
I'm pulling it at 100,000!!
Got ya? Got me too... heh heh.
David
>Snuffy wrote:
>>
>> No crap like we don't allready have enuff conservatives at USPA HQ trying to
>> regulate the fun out of skydiving now sumone wants to anal out the ng. Whut
>> next, spel police? ha ha ha :-) snuffy
Ok, one more time Snuff.....
To govern conservatively is to govern as little as is needed. To
govern liberally is to govern as much as possible. You still have it
backwards you damn hillbilly. Get it right the next time.
David
Espen
>
> Look, Dan pointed out something that he saw as a problem (noise to signal
> ratio) and raised a possible solution. He did NOT advocate that solution,
> he just asked what people thought about the idea.
No. He went as far as to ask if there was someone out here who wanted the job
as a moderator. That's *way* beyond just asking what people thought of the
idea. He also used 'most people think like I do' type sentences, which this
thread has most definetely proven is not the case. He *clearly* expressed
*his* view, and what he wanted, not what everyone else wanted. How can you
not see that?
> Reasonable people will respond the idea that he raised (not a new idea,
> not in my opinion a good idea) without stooping to ad-hominem attacks.
It is hard to refrain from attacking someone who singlehandedly decides to
ask for a moderator for this newsgroup. If he wanted to raise the idea for
debate he should have asked "What does everyone think of a moderated
newsgroup? Please explain why you feel this way (and please make it civil)."
> Dan's original message related to signal/noise ratio. Presently on my
> system there are 24 responses. Of those 24 responses 9 relate to the
> original question and 15 have literally nothing to do with the thread
> (and that's counting the "Live Free or Die" posting as relating TO the
> thread). That gives a signal/noise ratio of 60%...not too impressive.
Sometimes your noise is other people's music.
Fastsftail
>much
>as I trust you, I have to give him the benefit of the doubt.
i was minding my own business and he started shit. i suggest you tell him i' m
going to beat the snot out of him in here every time he
fuck' s with me.
i ain' t giving him shit. you are way too manipulable rl. if he does
something nice for you there is a reason.....always. he will then start
playing one against the other. he can' t help it he' s sociopath.
trust me on this one
Martin Evans
MOM1398 wrote in message
<19990209152824...@ng-fz1.aol.com>...
Of course the only ones to give these morons
>the time of day should be the self important all knowing-I-got-my-D
lisence 200
>(accident waiting to happen)jump wonders who also wont listen to the
wise ones
>trying to keep them alive.
>
>Just to keep things interesting we can have a bunch of non Americans
complain
>about us being arogant pigs who are obsessed with talking about
oursexual
>prowess and sticking our tongues out for the camera. You know, the same
ones
>who come to America because the Skydiving is soo fucking much better
here, and
>all they do is be obnoxious, complain about the prices they pay for the
shitty
>services they get, and oh don't forget, they walk around the DZ in
nothing but
>those skimpy little speedo's with thier hairy lily white Butt crack
showing and
>all you want to do is Vomit on thier bad hair piece.
>
>so he can make hook turns and be really cool and
>famous like the rest of the Bootie wearing face hiding helmet God's on
the
>planet who are
>only your friend long enough to grab a bottle of the free beer
>you just bought off the bar and try to talk you into paying next weeks
paycheck
>for coaching jumps with them because if you dont you will never learn
how to
>skydive and youll spend the rest of eternity doing solos.
>
> I WANT
>IT HARD AND RAW!! BRING IT ON,GIVE ME WHAT YOU GOT!!! LETS
PAAARTYYYY!!!! MAKE
>IT ROUGH, MAKE IT SOFT, SWIRL IT AROUND AND SLAM IT HOME BAAABYYYY!!!!
LETS
>SKYDIVE,LETS FORNICATE, LETS CAUSE MAYHEM, LETS SWAP SPIT, LETS FIGHT,
LETS
>LIVE AND DIE!!!
>
>
>
> Blue SkyZ
> DJ Mike
>
>The only thing guaranteed in Skydiving is...you WILL land !
Bad day in manifest eh! DJ.
BO
SS
Martin.
Fastsftail
>
>> hey you, yeah you ...you...fucking nazi...go start your own ng.
>
It is, however, quite representative of the issue that he raised.
relax dude.....i should have made a cute little winking symbol like one of
those smiley faces to help you get it.
TooyT
Wrote:
***********************************
I ain't got nothing backwerds, just think like a free coyote. Thats hard for
some humans who cain't reach my level in thinking. The golden seagulls did it.
yuh yuh warn't my fault, nope, nope :-P snuffy
David
>>Ok, one more time Snuff.....
>>
>>To govern conservatively is to govern as little as is needed. To
>>govern liberally is to govern as much as possible. You still have it
>>backwards you damn hillbilly. Get it right the next time.
>>
>>David
>***********************************
>I ain't got nothing backwerds, just think like a free coyote. Thats hard for
>some humans who cain't reach my level in thinking. The golden seagulls did it.
>yuh yuh warn't my fault, nope, nope :-P snuffy
Backwards backwards backwards. And if you think like a free coyote,
that would make you an anarchist; the opposite of a liberal.
David
Mike Spurgeon
davi...@ionet.net wrote:
>
> >Snuffy wrote:
> >>
> >> No crap like we don't allready have enuff conservatives at USPA HQ trying
to
> >> regulate the fun out of skydiving now sumone wants to anal out the ng. Whut
> >> next, spel police? ha ha ha :-) snuffy
>
>
> To govern conservatively is to govern as little as is needed. To
> govern liberally is to govern as much as possible. You still have it
> backwards you damn hillbilly. Get it right the next time.
When you have a government that does everything for you, you have a government
that can do anything to you.
TooyT
Wrote:
>Snuffy wrote:
>>
>> No crap like we don't allready have enuff conservatives at USPA HQ trying
>to
>> regulate the fun out of skydiving now sumone wants to anal out the ng. Whut
>> next, spel police? ha ha ha :-) snuffy
>
>first to go. That's a promise :o). Oh, I would be right behind you btw.
>
>
>
>Espen
>
>"The Flying Norwegian"
I been run off before. more than once, its a shame cuz I may not be right but
my lifes experiance is not narrow. I understand a lot of things like life and
death. I have taken life, given life and noticed life is kinky, its not allways
the length but the Quality and choice. In a far away spooky land I learned it
was better to die free and fighting than as a slave or prisoner. Death is death
its just a unknown frontier, new experiance. Living things are born to die. The
thing to do is let them live it out not control their life. and kill their
soul. A human without spirit is dead anyway. Walking dead ha ha ha. The do
gooders are gonna kill the spirit of skydiving and enslave free jumpers. Cuz
they are control freaks who forgot where skydiving came from, what it
represents to free spirits who are willing to risk their body to see what
happens except life and death odds for joy and freedom. All these YTbY's know
is techinacal stuff they don't understand the free thinkers philosphy of living
and dieing. All they understand is money, money and control Life and death,
people, things it ends up personel choice most of the time. But here the Fuds
are over here thinking, gee I been around awhile, I important god god GOD
SKYGOD! I thinking MY ASS
They are demagouge more likely. If it wern't so they would be out at the dz's
putting on free siminars looking into training policy, jumping with the sorry
ass wild kids trying to befriend them and provide leadership by kinship and
example rather than sitting in board rooms trying to pass laws that benifet Fud
buisnessmen who don't look after their younger skydivers. Yeah the Majority
rules but as long as their is one focked up kid that loves the sport and humor
around I'll be out here in the wilderness howling stupid encouragement and
enjoying their discomfort ha ha ha cuz I been there and understand the delima
:-P snuffy sez trust,
trusssst me ewe nergin peckerhead and do your thing, live your life, be happy
don't worry their are Fuds around to worry. :-*
TooyT
>
>Backwards backwards backwards. And if you think like a free coyote,
>that would make you an anarchist; the opposite of a liberal.
>
>David
***********************************
Thats funny, the Dean of the English department of a major university called me
a bad spel anarchrist writer/thinker, The Bishop simply called me the
Antichrist. I a rebel thinker no kidding. Coyotes against liberal tree hugging
Fuds and control freaks. I left the wordly church and found skydiving this
wonderfull pegan religion, and here come the conservative Fuds gitting religion
making self serving rules again DAMN! ha ha ha Death or boredom may silence
me someday but maybe not, their is allways hauntings ooooooooo ha ha ha :-P
snuffy
Rhonda Lea
>AWWWWW SHOOT !! the worthy ones are gone..... rhondas' swooning.....its
>raining.........
>AWWWWW SHOOT !!
Don't shoot. It'll stain the carpet.
rl
Rhonda Lea Kirk NCB#16 BJDS#2 INAC#77 PSLCK#1 SBG#1 A-29204
Beep someone you love. Follow me to alt.nosebeeping
___________________________________________________________________
On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur...
ynot...@my-dejanews.com
Mike Spurgeon <mi...@spurgeon.net> wrote:
...
> When you have a government that does everything for you, you have a government
> that can do anything to you.
That's a big 10-4.
Several years ago people voted along the lines of "less government", and steps
were taken, up to a point, to provide exactly that.
The Dept. of Commerce/NOAA/NWS stepped up its automated surface observation
system (ASOS) to the point of reducing the number of employees at practically
all of its field offices, and total automation at some, including contracted
sites. That's "less government". Trouble was, pilots like to have the human
touch when flying VFR over some mountain passes, and some stations weren't
humanized anymore, so the ASOS data were all there was (except PIREPs, of
course, from some pioneers). Visibility? Why sure ... let's measure it along
a 2 meter path, see how much light is back-scattered and/or transmitted, then
report 10 nm. visibilty based on that. Oooops, there's a cloud right down to
the deck away from the transmissometer that the ceilometer couldn't see
either ... shit, I thought they said VFR and I can't see a thing!!
A small example of less government, that's all.
The moral is: Less Gov't = more individual responsibilty.
The problem is: People will take the responsibility, they just
won't take the blame. They want to sue someone.
tony
___________________________________________________________________________
Q: Why did the tachyon cross the road?
A: Because it was on the other side.
Rhonda Lea
>Rhonda Lea wrote:
>>
>> Someone catch me; I just swooned. ;)
>
>Ehh...that's a good thing, right? ;o)
Only if you get your hands off the damn keyboard and catch me before I crack my
head open on the floor.
rl
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Mike Spurgeon wrote:
>
> In article <36c835e3....@news.ionet.net>,
> davi...@ionet.net wrote:
> >
> > >Snuffy wrote:
> > >>
> > >> No crap like we don't allready have enuff conservatives at USPA HQ trying
> to
> > >> regulate the fun out of skydiving now sumone wants to anal out the ng. Whut
> > >> next, spel police? ha ha ha :-) snuffy
> >
> > Ok, one more time Snuff.....
> >
> > To govern conservatively is to govern as little as is needed. To
> > govern liberally is to govern as much as possible. You still have it
> > backwards you damn hillbilly. Get it right the next time.
>
> When you have a government that does everything for you, you have a government
> that can do anything to you.
>
SBozo
>rl
EEEEEEEEYYYYUUUUUKKK
jim
TooyT
Wrote:
>davi...@ionet.net wrote:
>>
>> >Snuffy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> No crap like we don't allready have enuff conservatives at USPA HQ
>trying
>to
>> >> regulate the fun out of skydiving now sumone wants to anal out the ng.
>Whut
>> >> next, spel police? ha ha ha :-) snuffy
>>
>> Ok, one more time Snuff.....
>>
>> To govern conservatively is to govern as little as is needed. To
>> govern liberally is to govern as much as possible. You still have it
>> backwards you damn hillbilly. Get it right the next time.
>
>When you have a government that does everything for you, you have a
>government
>that can do anything to you.
yeah that usually happens when government becomes burocratical or self serving.
Is Gov't for the people or not?
David
>>Backwards backwards backwards. And if you think like a free coyote,
>>that would make you an anarchist; the opposite of a liberal.
>>
>>David
>***********************************
>Thats funny, the Dean of the English department of a major university called me
>a bad spel anarchrist writer/thinker, The Bishop simply called me the
>Antichrist. I a rebel thinker no kidding. Coyotes against liberal tree hugging
>Fuds and control freaks.
Yeah! Now you're getting it! One AttaBoy.
>I left the wordly church and found skydiving this
>wonderfull pegan religion, and here come the conservative Fuds gitting religion
> making self serving rules again DAMN!
Awshit, there you go again.....
Just can't teach these old coyotes anything.
ehgo...@unix.amherst.edu
>Elvis wrote:
>
>>AWWWWW SHOOT !! the worthy ones are gone..... rhondas' swooning.....its
>>raining.........
>>AWWWWW SHOOT !!
>
>Don't shoot. It'll stain the carpet.
Oh, Rhonda. You've gone lower than I thought you could.....er, um,
never mind. :)
Soft openings,
Marty
Home DZ: Airborne Adventures
Northampton, MA (7B2)
NCB #317
Mary Jo Robinson
Mike Spurgeon wrote:
> In article <36c835e3....@news.ionet.net>,
> davi...@ionet.net wrote:
> >
> > >Snuffy wrote:
> > >>
> > >> No crap like we don't allready have enuff conservatives at USPA HQ trying
> to
> > >> regulate the fun out of skydiving now sumone wants to anal out the ng. Whut
> > >> next, spel police? ha ha ha :-) snuffy
> >
> > Ok, one more time Snuff.....
> >
> > To govern conservatively is to govern as little as is needed. To
> > govern liberally is to govern as much as possible. You still have it
> > backwards you damn hillbilly. Get it right the next time.
>
> When you have a government that does everything for you, you have a government
> that can do anything to you.
I'm going to shut up... Mike, you can have the podium! I would say that sentence
is ntelligence put into words...
Fly free...
Paul C-29176
Mary Jo Robinson
Mary Jo Robinson wrote:
> is intelligence put into words...
> Fly free...
> Paul C-29176
Cris G
>Oh, Rhonda. You've gone lower than I thought you could....
And I have a map. That's probably the lowest she stooped.. Giving me a map.
blue skies
Cris
You have the right to remain silent....Anything you say will be misquoted,
then used against you.
Espen
This is almost poetry. This should be forwarded to USPA and all the DZOs
around. Thanks for the inspiration and your sharing of knowledge Snuffy. Keep
it up!
> :-P snuffy sez trust,
> trusssst me ewe nergin peckerhead and do your thing, live your life, be happy
> don't worry their are Fuds around to worry. :-*
I'm trying to live my life, but it's not easy when some people want to take
that choice away from me, and want me to live my life as *they* see fit. My
membership with USPA will be cancelled if they ever mandate AADs, but chances
are Norway will follow suit as they see the US as the way to follow. I will
also leave this newsgroup if someone moderates it, but I won't leave until I
have put up a fight. Hopefully it will never come to either.
Espen
'Choking in Iowa'
"The Flying Norwegian"
Espen
> Espen wrote:
>
> >Rhonda Lea wrote:
> >>
> >> Someone catch me; I just swooned. ;)
> >
> >Ehh...that's a good thing, right? ;o)
>
> Only if you get your hands off the damn keyboard and catch me before I crack
my
> head open on the floor.
I'm reaching....reaching....reaching.....I can't reach that far damnit!!
Ofcourse, a plane ticket could change that in an instance. Yes, I might be
expensive, but I'm worth it ;o)
Espen
Flyincamra
>Ofcourse, a plane ticket could change that in an instance. Yes, I might
>be
>expensive, but I'm worth it ;o)
Awww Jeez! Another penniless male skydiving bum looking for a solvent middle
aged female.....
and here I was starting to like you! ;-P
TooyT
Damn kid, how did ewe insert two of my long rambling posts into your post? I
snipped it, Hope ewe ain't reading them long post's they might cause mental
illness trusssst me. :) snip snip snip
>This is almost poetry. This should be forwarded to USPA and all the DZOs
>around. Thanks for the inspiration and your sharing of knowledge Snuffy. Keep
>it up!
>
>> :-P snuffy sez trust,
>> trusssst me ewe nergin peckerhead and do your thing, live your life, be
>happy
>> don't worry their are Fuds around to worry. :-*
>
>I'm trying to live my life, but it's not easy when some people want to take
>that choice away from me, and want me to live my life as *they* see fit. My
>membership with USPA will be cancelled if they ever mandate AADs, but chances
>are Norway will follow suit as they see the US as the way to follow. I will
>also leave this newsgroup if someone moderates it, but I won't leave until I
>have put up a fight. Hopefully it will never come to either.
>
>
>
>Espen
>'Choking in Iowa'
>
>"The Flying Norwegian"
***********************************
I admire what the USPA has acomplished but take heart. If they try to take away
all your freedom of choice a lot of little outlaw dz's are out there, go jump
but this time around keep an eye on who is seeking office. Make a rule the BOD
has to hold National votes on important freedom choices and has to meet at
skydiving boogies on ratty dz's not in fine hotels, shit like that they do
causes them to loose site of their roots and they cease to understand what fun
jumping is They are in effect socially segregated and fed shit by big buisness,
Trussssst me, trusssst me kid I never owned a cypress in my life but my next
jump wdamn sure be cypress equiped. I don't exspect forceing anyone else to
wear one but I will laff at the D's without night jumps and all non static line
people. I'll go like this :-) ha ha ha pooooooossy wussssy sheep. Trusssst me
trusssssssssssssssssssssssssssssst :-* snuffy
TooyT
Wrote:
>Awww Jeez! Another penniless male skydiving bum looking for a solvent middle
>aged female.....
>and here I was starting to like you! ;-P
What are they 55/60? 55 is a young end middle aged female to me
30 & 40 is kid under 30 is grandchild. Yawl heifers giving out yer age now? I
was talking to a daughter about she should skydive so I'm sitting there sucking
on a beer trying to figger out canopy loading for her, she is 6 foot so I sez
how much ewe way heifer? BOOM BANG POW Wahhhhhhhh! Found out ewe cain't ask no
female about weight even if its yer own kids. Yawl need to see a sackaritrist
about that its a secret shit females got going on amongst theirselves :-*
snuffy
Al Anderson
>snippage
> Several of the other news groups I read that have similar problems
> are moderated. There is an appointed (or volunteered) moderator that
> filters the posts (based on a published submittal policy) and chucks the
> worthless flame drivel overboard so it can sink out of sight. And sometimes
> the moderator chastises the immature and incorrigible little brats off-line
> so we don't have to sort through the rantings ourselves.
>
> snippage
That sounds like a job for Nipple Boy.
--
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CRWMike
Al Anderson wrote:
>
> Dan Bergmen wrote:
> >snippage
>
> > Several of the other news groups I read that have similar problems
> > are moderated. There is an appointed (or volunteered) moderator that
> > filters the posts (based on a published submittal policy) and chucks the
> > worthless flame drivel overboard so it can sink out of sight. And sometimes
> > the moderator chastises the immature and incorrigible little brats off-line
> > so we don't have to sort through the rantings ourselves.
> >
> > snippage
>
>
> That sounds like a job for Nipple Boy.
A good candidate. However, what with his new job, working on his
doctorate and seriously considering marriage (in the near future) ... I
doubt he would take the job.
Blue Skies,
Michael
Jumpingboe
have just 1 question for you in your first (long) post on this
topic..............
did you take a breath?
karen
Espen
> > Yes, I might be expensive, but I'm worth it ;o)
>
> aged female.....
> and here I was starting to like you! ;-P
Hey, make that "Another penniless male college kid skydiver bum" thank you!
And I'm *not* lookin' for a "solvent middle aged female" I'm looking for
*any* female (so you better watch out;o). I'm a *male*, remember?
Oh, and to like me is to love me...no...that was, to love me is
to..no..wait...to leave me is....oh never mind.
:o)
Rhonda Lea
>Marty wrote:
>
>>Oh, Rhonda. You've gone lower than I thought you could....
>
>And I have a map. That's probably the lowest she stooped.. Giving me a map.
Yeah...so why, I ask myself, do I have to come to you?
Oh yeah, it's all Valerie's fault. ;)
Rhonda Lea
>Awww Jeez! Another penniless male skydiving bum looking for a solvent middle
>aged female.....
>and here I was starting to like you!
Ixnay on the "middle-aged" shit, Jan. I don't know about you, but I'm planning
to live long enough that I won't be middle-aged for at least 10 more
years...and if I start having backwards birthdays...well...I'll never get
there. ;)
Espen
> >>
> Damn kid, how did ewe insert two of my long rambling posts into your post?
Ehh...I didn't insert them, I inserted *my* post into it (it was only one post
divided by yours truly). Are you sure you're taking the right medicine? :o)
> I snipped it
I didn't cut a single part of it, in your honor :o)
, Hope ewe ain't reading them long post's they might cause mental
> illness trusssst me. :) snip snip snip
Too late for that. I was here when you came along, and it's a little late for
a warning now, ain't it?
> I admire what the USPA has acomplished but take heart. If they try to take away
> all your freedom of choice a lot of little outlaw dz's are out there, go jump
I will 'go jump', it will just be in another country, that's all.
> but this time around keep an eye on who is seeking office. Make a rule the BOD
> has to hold National votes on important freedom choices and has to meet at
> skydiving boogies on ratty dz's not in fine hotels, shit like that they do
> causes them to loose site of their roots and they cease to understand what fun
> jumping is They are in effect socially segregated and fed shit by big buisness,
Let us know when you will be seeking office. I'm sure there are other lunatics
like me that will actually vote for you.
> Trussssst me, trusssst me kid I never owned a cypress in my life but my next
> jump wdamn sure be cypress equiped.
Because of your...eh...um..condition. Right?
I don't exspect forceing anyone else to
> wear one but I will laff at the D's without night jumps and all non static line
> people. I'll go like this :-) ha ha ha pooooooossy wussssy sheep. Trusssst me
> trusssssssssssssssssssssssssssssst :-* snuffy
I think you got out just in time. You would have had another anurism from
laughing if you were still around come next year :o)
TooyT
Wrote:
>Let us know when you will be seeking office. I'm sure there are other
>lunatics
>like me that will actually vote for you.
Uh, yer sick in the head to huh? I'm not a good politician anyway cuz I'm
incorrect politically and its hard for me to compromise
my chickenshit redneck values. :-
>> Trussssst me, trusssst me kid I never owned a cypress in my life but my
>next
>> jump wdamn sure be cypress equiped.
>Because of your...eh...um..condition. Right?
Yeah thats part of it but just keeling over without warning effected my view on
being bullet proof. I had jumped within the prior 48 hours so when the doctors
revived me off flat line and started talking possible medical miricle, first
thought I had was its a miricle it didn't hapen in freefall. I couldn't
verbalize it
cuz my Lyernix was paralized, good thing too cuz when the wuffo doctors found
out I was a skydiver they said. "Thats it!" Skydivings fault
did your chute not open? did you hit a bird? Was it altitude? Were you jarred
ha ha ha Wuffo's. " Nahhhhhh doc I was takeing a leak," " a leak?" Yeah!" "
How do you think that caused it Mr. Smith?" "Uh, I stepped on my tallywacker."
This CICU RN pops up and sez. "He is confused Doctor, we looked its not long
enuff to step on." "I sez, lookit here heifer its longer than yours!" one
quack turns to the other and sez perhaps a psych workup will help. I sez "Don't
send no nut in here!"
They huddle up and deside its got to be skydiving related lack of Oxy or
something bunch of wuffo nuts. :-P snuffy
Cris G
>Yeah...so why, I ask myself, do I have to come to you?
>
>Oh yeah, it's all Valerie's fault. ;)
yeah, blame Valerie. She's pressuring me into coming to her DZ.
Rhonda Lea
>Rhonda asked:
>
>>Yeah...so why, I ask myself, do I have to come to you?
>>
>>Oh yeah, it's all Valerie's fault. ;)
>
>
>yeah, blame Valerie. She's pressuring me into coming to her DZ.
Yeah, pressure. I know about pressure. You and Valerie sending me the weekend
weather report every day for a week...that's pressure.
Well, okay. I made reservations. I have a map. Let's just hope I remember to
put my rig in the car.
All this stress from some much pressure...I might forget.
rl
Valerie Lawson
> yeah, blame Valerie. She's pressuring me into coming to her DZ.
>
> blue skies
> Cris
>
> You have the right to remain silent....Anything you say will be misquoted,
> then used against you.
No, the pressure comes AFTER you get to the DZ ;-)
Blue Ones!
Val
Peter A. Stefanelli
parents are reluctant to sign those papers cause i'm only 15 .
Valerie Lawson wrote in message <36C9F651...@prodigy.net>...
Cris G
>parents are reluctant to sign those papers cause i'm only 15 .
Your parents can sign everything they want.. You still can't jump until you are
18 in most states, 16 in some. It's going to be a long 1-3 years.. It's
indescribeable.
gr...@grrr.net
>
> can anyone describe there experience for me? i want to try sky diving but my
> parents are reluctant to sign those papers cause i'm only 15 .
>
FWIW, the saga of my first tandem (a week ago today... sigh) is at
http://www.grrr.net/skydive.html . People who've read it have been
pretty kind...
< grrr >
"When's that durn USPA number gonna get here?"
Povl H. Pedersen
Peter A. Stefanelli <info...@ican.net> transmitted:
>can anyone describe there experience for me?
It can not be described
>i want to try sky diving but my
>parents are reluctant to sign those papers cause i'm only 15 .
Just wait for a few years then. Problem is, many people gets bit by
the skydiving bug, and spends all the money they can afford + some
on skydiving.
As we do not yet want to take your life away from you, and lead you into
crime to get money for the next jump, just take it easy.
I think that in the US you must be 16 years old before you are allowed to
do solo jumps, waivers or not. But you can probably do a tandem jump at
your current age, no problem.
It is very different how people feel. Most people are really happy when
they come down after their first freefall. Feels on top of the world.
When I had done my first freefall (AFF level 1, not tandem), I was one big
smile, from ear to ear, and the club of skydivers that arrived at the camping
that day guessed immidiately that I had done either my first jump or my
first freefall.
Half of the sport is hanging around with the other skydivers, have some
fun and partying. And on rainy days sitting in front of the TV at the
DZ and looking at the same video for the 37th time :)
--
Povl H. Pedersen - Skydiver
57 jumps - 38"08' freefall
Peter Liemberg
>>can anyone describe there experience for me? i want to try sky diving but my
>>parents are reluctant to sign those papers cause i'm only 15 .
>
>Your parents can sign everything they want.. You still can't jump until you are
>18 in most states, 16 in some. It's going to be a long 1-3 years.. It's
>indescribeable.
>
>
>blue skies
>Cris
>
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Another fine example of yankocentrism...
;-)
FWIFYI
Outside the USA you can start at 16 almost everywhere, tandems even
earlier. I took my son on a tandemjump at the age of eight - outside
the USA.
----------------------------------------------------
Peter Liemberg: ferriner with Dikkunary
"Re-adjust the machine Scotty - something goes wrong
during transportation.Captain now has pointed ears."
Cris G
>Another fine example of yankocentrism...
>;-)
I'm sorry..Next time I'll try to speak for other countries. Contrary to your
belief, I work in an international atmosphere and take that into account when
answering. If I had any information regarding the laws in other countries, I
would have mentioned that.
>Outside the USA you can start at 16 almost everywhere, tandems even
>earlier. I took my son on a tandemjump at the age of eight - outside
>the USA.
I've seen my share of bad tandem landings where the TM fell on the student.
That could be devastating to someone as small as an 8 year old. IMHO the
danger outweighs the need. More power to you if you want to put your children
in that situation.. Mine won't be until they are old enough to make that
decision on their own and can accept responsibility for their actions. I'm
glad my country uses the "age of majority" law in this case.