Regrets
Second Best
And those three days, they made me proud indeed, because she showed me
things I'll never repeat
And now I see the things she gave to me, in a different kind of way
And still I hear her, singing to me today, who took these things away?
I thought I had the world in my hands, but then I saw her start to fade
I'm desperate for someone to blame, so I'll lay it all on the girl
called Jade
And now I see the things she gave to me, in a different kind of way
And still I hear her, singing to me today, who took these things away?
(Bridge)
And it's always the same when you ask me the time, I'll tell you to go
away
For what's the use of time when it only brings back to you memories, and
pain?
At times I still see her as I lay in my bed, and she asks how I do those
things to her
But before I can say that it's because I love her, she's gone and I'm
alone again
--
©1998 Clayton Smith
TWiGGY
<Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
>I sing the song of yester-year, and the earth shudders beneath my feet
>And those three days, they made me proud indeed, because she showed me
>things I'll never repeat
the poet opens here with a phrase only matched in literature by "once
upon a time", the elegant "i sing the song of yester-year". as the
reader digests these magical words a feeling of warmth fills their
soul. perhaps only then, they realise a small puppy dog, whizzing on
their toes.
the poet goes on to describe the horror of earthquake in san francisco
at the end of the 80's. apparently he claims to have some sort of
involvement with this tragic event. his accomplice appears to be a
girl, perhaps he is a pimp.
this poet is not to be messed with. people lost their lives during
this event, and many still carry mental scars. my great auntie was in
the earthquake, and she was really scared cos she is quite old. she
stood in a doorway, which is wot you are supposed to do. of course the
people crushed to death in their cars by the collapsing underpass
couldnt do this.
the poet appears to be some sort of "sick freak". at this point it
should be noted that i have a tear in my eye. i have just seen someone
shoot a deer with one of those nerf bow and arrows. yeah thats right,
the ones made from foam.
>And now I see the things she gave to me, in a different kind of way
>And still I hear her, singing to me today, who took these things away?
here the poet is talking about semtex. of course many explosives are
illegal, and the police took his semtex away. if the poet were to
check out his extensive criminal record, he would be aware of this.
and not have to ask silly questions in his poems. rhetorical questions
are wack.
>I thought I had the world in my hands, but then I saw her start to fade
>I'm desperate for someone to blame, so I'll lay it all on the girl
>called Jade
the poet clearly thought his devious plans could bring all the world
leaders to their knees. he was wrong. possibly because he is wack.
notice also the rhyme, "fade", with "jade". of course the poet doesnt
know anybody called jade. it just goes with fade. this shows lack of
invention on the poets behalf. the technical term for the individual
who writes like that is "a great big monkey whore".
>And now I see the things she gave to me, in a different kind of way
>And still I hear her, singing to me today, who took these things away?
note the rhyme "way", with "away". also note how the phrase "singing
to me today" obstructs the smooth flow of the rhyme. it is all about
cohesion man. lexical cohesion is the new glam rock.
>(Bridge)
there have been terrorist threats on london bridge before. it is not
big, and it is not clever.......
>And it's always the same when you ask me the time, I'll tell you to go
>away
>For what's the use of time when it only brings back to you memories, and
>pain?
this part of the poem is confusing. is the poet using time as a
metaphor for life? because surely time is a part of life. or are they
using time as a metaphor for healing? does the poet know what a
metaphor is? probably not.
>At times I still see her as I lay in my bed, and she asks how I do those
>things to her
>But before I can say that it's because I love her, she's gone and I'm
>alone again
it appears that the poet has been persuaded to enroll in the witness
protection plan. this enables him to give evidence against his female
accomplice, whilst giving him freedom, and a new identity. the poet is
haunted by guilt, and hounded by shame. also it could mean that the
poet treats the ladies wack, so the ladies think he is a big jabroney.
in conclusion i would say this poem is a bit ner. if you enjoy poems
like this you could probably write some rubbish poems yourself. put
them all together in a ring binder or something, and claim it is a
"book" of your work. once you have done this you can afford not to do
anything for around 5 years, telling your friends you are living off
royalties from your "book".
writing a "book" also enables you to look all rugged, a bit like a
mountain man. so you can do nothing *and* look like a hobo, and still
have the respect of your peers. of course some wack poets decide to
set up "shacks", from which they sell minging food to spanish
children, making them really sick.
DarkAngel
Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:21:17 GMT spoke forth unto the bleak arena of
discussion:
>writing a "book" also enables you to look all rugged, a bit like a
>mountain man. so you can do nothing *and* look like a hobo, and still
>have the respect of your peers. of course some wack poets decide to
>set up "shacks", from which they sell minging food to spanish
>children, making them really sick.
they then go on to found "universities", which flop after 2 months
because the owner has no grasp of the world outside of his slightly
warped comic strip fantasy land. Then they bullshit about what a
success it has been despite not having one single graduate in
interviews with people who have silly little beards and wear baseball
caps backwards,
Mike the Bastard
tHE qUEEN bEE
qUEENIE
Second Best
<Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.dem
on. co.uk> wrote:
> I sing the song of yester-year, and the earth shudders beneath my feet
> And those three days, they made me proud indeed, because she showed me
> things I'll never repeat
>
> And now I see the things she gave to me, in a different kind of way
> And still I hear her, singing to me today, who took these things away?
>
> I thought I had the world in my hands, but then I saw her start to fade
> I'm desperate for someone to blame, so I'll lay it all on the girl
> called Jade
>
> And now I see the things she gave to me, in a different kind of way
> And still I hear her, singing to me today, who took these things away?
> (Bridge)
> And it's always the same when you ask me the time, I'll tell you to go
> away
> For what's the use of time when it only brings back to you memories, and
> pain?
>
> At times I still see her as I lay in my bed, and she asks how I do those
> things to her
> But before I can say that it's because I love her, she's gone and I'm
> alone again
>
> --
> ©1998 Clayton Smith
>
--
qUEENIE
http://members.tripod.com/~meew/Karen.html
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Second Best
umpteenth letter to alt.zoom
(See tHE qUEEN bEE, chapter 3 - "Deja News - The Leader in Internet
Discussion", verses 12 to 43):
>Bootiful! You wrote that? I'd love to hear the tune that slips in behind it.
>qUEENIE
Thanks... well if I ever save up enough money to afford my didgital 8
track.... I just might make a recording and send it to you! :)
--
Lion
"Rent Rent Rent Rent Rent" - RENT
Send any mails with attatchments (over 200k) to dead...@hotmail.com
tHE qUEEN bEE
> >Bootiful! You wrote that? I'd love to hear the tune that slips in behind
it.
> >qUEENIE
Second Best wrote:
> Thanks... well if I ever save up enough money to afford my didgital 8
> track.... I just might make a recording and send it to you! :)
> Lion
=)
Second Best
umpteenth letter to alt.zoom
(See tHE qUEEN bEE, chapter 3 - "Deja News - The Leader in Internet
Discussion", verses 12 to 43):
>
>
>
>> >Bootiful! You wrote that? I'd love to hear the tune that slips in behind
>it.
>> >qUEENIE
> Second Best wrote:
>> Thanks... well if I ever save up enough money to afford my didgital 8
>> track.... I just might make a recording and send it to you! :)
>> Lion
>
>=)
I should be able to afford it in a couple of months. :)
tHE qUEEN bEE
Second Best wrote:
> >> >Bootiful! You wrote that? I'd love to hear the tune that slips in behind
> >it.
> >> >qUEENIE
> > Second Best wrote:
> >> Thanks... well if I ever save up enough money to afford my didgital 8
> >> track.... I just might make a recording and send it to you! :)
> >> Lion
> >=)
> I should be able to afford it in a couple of months. :)
> Lion
>
With a sound file and a microphone, you could email it to me. ;)
TWiGGY
<dilus...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>With a sound file and a microphone, you could email it to me. ;)
no. because some people need really good production to sound any good.
this is because they are wack. i think you are observing a rather bad
case of wackness.
Not the one
writes
metallicas last album, recorded in big-fuckoff-type studio, sounds crisp
and of high quality...
also, you obviously know jack shit about recording:
we own a 4-track at the moment, which alows you to record 4 instruments,
or mics. to get good sound quality, you need to put a microphone infront
of the amp, or two mics.
Also, effects, such as distortion, sound shit on some shitty/cheapy
4-track, so you need something such as a vs840, to record to a
acceptable standard.
understand now?
--
Not The One
Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk
Smash is the way you feel alone,
Like an outcast your out on your own
Second Best
umpteenth letter to alt.zoom
(See tHE qUEEN bEE, chapter 3 - "Deja News - The Leader in Internet
Discussion", verses 12 to 43):
>
>
> Second Best wrote:
>> >> >Bootiful! You wrote that? I'd love to hear the tune that slips in behind
>> >it.
>> >> >qUEENIE
>> > Second Best wrote:
>> >> Thanks... well if I ever save up enough money to afford my didgital 8
>> >> track.... I just might make a recording and send it to you! :)
>> >> Lion
>
>> >=)
>
>> I should be able to afford it in a couple of months. :)
>> Lion
>>
>
>With a sound file and a microphone, you could email it to me. ;)
And how am I meant to play 3 guitars at once?!!!!! <g> I don't like
sending people half-finished stuff. And it costs a lot to email a whole
song anyway. Unless you use audio compression, then it sounds shitty.
Second Best
umpteenth letter to alt.zoom
(See Not the one, chapter 3 - "Civacon-OPW", verses 12 to 43):
>metallicas first album, recorded in shit studio, sounded a bit shit.
>metallicas last album, recorded in big-fuckoff-type studio, sounds crisp
>and of high quality...
And don't forget Metallica's fourth album... recorded in a the same
studio as the same two albums before it, and sounded completely crap!!!!
:)
Hetfeild - Vocals, Washing powder boxes, with elastic bands
Hammet - Lead washing powder box
Newstead - Bass washing powder box
Ulrich - Pots and Pans
TWiGGY
<Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>no. because some people need really good production to sound any good.
>>this is because they are wack. i think you are observing a rather bad
>>case of wackness.
>metallicas first album, recorded in shit studio, sounded a bit shit.
>metallicas last album, recorded in big-fuckoff-type studio, sounds crisp
>and of high quality...
me - "some people need really good production to sound any good".
you - "mettalicas first album, recorded in shit studio, sounded a bit
shit"
so what you are saying is that some people (mettalica) have bad
production, and they dont sound good? but when they have good
production, they sound excellent. which is what i said.......
>also, you obviously know jack shit about recording:
also, you obviously read very fast, and your brain cant keep up. so
you get all confused. and be a silly idiot.
>we own a 4-track at the moment, which alows you to record 4 instruments,
>or mics. to get good sound quality, you need to put a microphone infront
>of the amp, or two mics.
to get good quality on the percussion, you need many mics. hence 4
tracks are a beginners recording tool.
>Also, effects, such as distortion, sound shit on some shitty/cheapy
>4-track, so you need something such as a vs840, to record to a
>acceptable standard.
>
>understand now?
read better next time, k? i am really into acoustics and media
(studying for a media tech degree) so dont go on about recording
equipment..........i already know m8.
tHE qUEEN bEE
qUEENIE
(TWiGGY) wrote:
> no. because some people need really good production to sound any good.
> this is because they are wack. i think you are observing a rather bad
> case of wackness.
> tHE qUEEN bEE wrote:
> >With a sound file and a microphone, you could email it to me. ;)
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Not the one
writes
>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:39:18 +0100, Not the one
>
>>>no. because some people need really good production to sound any good.
>>>this is because they are wack. i think you are observing a rather bad
>>>case of wackness.
>
>>metallicas last album, recorded in big-fuckoff-type studio, sounds crisp
>>and of high quality...
>
>me - "some people need really good production to sound any good".
>
>you - "mettalicas first album, recorded in shit studio, sounded a bit
>shit"
>
>so what you are saying is that some people (mettalica) have bad
>production, and they dont sound good? but when they have good
>production, they sound excellent. which is what i said.......
bad.
>
>>also, you obviously know jack shit about recording:
>
>also, you obviously read very fast, and your brain cant keep up. so
>you get all confused. and be a silly idiot.
recording?
>
>>we own a 4-track at the moment, which alows you to record 4 instruments,
>>or mics. to get good sound quality, you need to put a microphone infront
>>of the amp, or two mics.
>
>to get good quality on the percussion, you need many mics. hence 4
>tracks are a beginners recording tool.
just incase you didnt understand, that was sarcasium.
>
>>Also, effects, such as distortion, sound shit on some shitty/cheapy
>>4-track, so you need something such as a vs840, to record to a
>>acceptable standard.
>>
>>understand now?
>
>read better next time, k? i am really into acoustics and media
>(studying for a media tech degree) so dont go on about recording
>equipment..........i already know m8.
then why say:
"no. because some people need really good production to sound any good.
this is because they are wack. i think you are observing a rather bad
case of wackness."
if someone people are 'wack' because they need good production to sound
good, then the greatest classical compossers are 'wack' because you
couldnt record an orchestra on a four tarck and make it a commercail cd
now, could you?
TWiGGY
<Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>also, you obviously read very fast, and your brain cant keep up. so
>>you get all confused. and be a silly idiot.
>so you dont deny you dont know what your talking about when it comes to
>recording?
i know a fair bit. i have in the past bought studio time, and recorded
tracks onto cd. also i am going to do a media tech course, where i
will be working in film, music, and television studios. i have done
work for an acoustics firm, ATL Acoustics. look them up if you think i
am making stuff up. and there is you, man of bedroom recording. giving
me shit.
>>to get good quality on the percussion, you need many mics. hence 4
>>tracks are a beginners recording tool.
>really? well thanks for telling me, i didnt know that.....
well you have been telling me stuff i was aware of when i was about 12
and recording "come as you are" in my friends bedroom.
>just incase you didnt understand, that was sarcasium.
k man. i got dissed for bad spelling in this newsgroup. so watch out.
>then why say:
>
>
>"no. because some people need really good production to sound any good.
>this is because they are wack. i think you are observing a rather bad
>case of wackness."
>if someone people are 'wack' because they need good production to sound
>good, then the greatest classical compossers are 'wack' because you
>couldnt record an orchestra on a four tarck and make it a commercail cd
>now, could you?
you have not understood my point. i was taking a swipe at your band,
because clayton said he didnt want to give out any tapes until he had
better recording facilities. my point was to do with people who have
their sound "touched up" (innuendo ahoy!) with good sound equipment,
adjusting pitch etc. people like the spice girls, and any other pop
group. most of these people just look nice, but arent very talented
musically. this is why they usually dont sing live. and their stuff is
over produced to the point when it is hardly their own work. you know
those people? thats you that is......
TWiGGY
<dilus...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>And you know this how? Been spying on someone while they shower?
>qUEENIE
uh huh. checking out ppl when they are nekked.
Not the one
writes
>you have not understood my point. i was taking a swipe at your band,
>because clayton said he didnt want to give out any tapes until he had
>better recording facilities. my point was to do with people who have
>their sound "touched up" (innuendo ahoy!) with good sound equipment,
>adjusting pitch etc. people like the spice girls, and any other pop
>group. most of these people just look nice, but arent very talented
>musically. this is why they usually dont sing live. and their stuff is
>over produced to the point when it is hardly their own work. you know
>those people? thats you that is......
ha! me? well, your talking bollox mate. you insult may playing, but you
know shit. i play in an orchestra, a wind band, and today i started
writing some songs with a classical guiatrist. my last concert was
performing with a windband infront of 300 people. i play live, i am not
shit.
the reason we didnt send out the demo is as follows:
the drums would have to be recorded using a keyboard as the drum
machine, sounding, quite frankly, like someone hitting pots and pans.
the vocals would come out distorted because:
we had a shit mic
we had a shit mic amp.
so that is the reason why, ok?
Second Best
letter to alt.zoom
(See TWiGGY, chapter 3 - "The Thieves Guild of New Orleans", verses 12
to 43):
>you have not understood my point. i was taking a swipe at your band,
>because clayton said he didnt want to give out any tapes until he had
>better recording facilities. my point was to do with people who have
>their sound "touched up" (innuendo ahoy!) with good sound equipment,
>adjusting pitch etc. people like the spice girls, and any other pop
>group. most of these people just look nice, but arent very talented
>musically. this is why they usually dont sing live. and their stuff is
>over produced to the point when it is hardly their own work. you know
>those people? thats you that is......
1) WHat I was talking about was absolutely *nothing* to do with my "so-
called" band. It is a solo project.
2) Being over produced is one thing. But if I'm producing it all myself,
then no atter how prodused it ism, it's still my own work ;P
Chew on my hard stick.
DarkAngel
<Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> upon the hour of Thu, 17 Sep 1998
18:39:18 +0100 spoke forth unto the bleak arena of discussion:
>metallicas first album, recorded in shit studio, sounded a bit shit.
>metallicas last album, recorded in big-fuckoff-type studio, sounds crisp
>and of high quality...
it's just a same that the songs on their last album were complete and
total arse really,
>also, you obviously know jack shit about recording:
so? You know jack shit bout music
>we own a 4-track at the moment, which alows you to record 4 instruments,
>or mics.
<fakes suprise>
>to get good sound quality, you need to put a microphone infront
>of the amp, or two mics.
>Also, effects, such as distortion, sound shit on some shitty/cheapy
>4-track, so you need something such as a vs840, to record to a
>acceptable standard.
yeah but all effects sound shit on that feeble excuse of an MFXU your
brother pisses about with
And this will come as a shock to you, but sound quality means fuck all
if your musicians suck.
Mike the Bastard
DarkAngel
<Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.demon.co.uk>
upon the hour of Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:01:28 +0100 spoke forth unto the
bleak arena of discussion:
>Hetfeild - Vocals, Washing powder boxes, with elastic bands
that's the second time you've misspelt his name, do you have some sort
of complex?
Mike the Bastard
DarkAngel
16:16:49 +0100 spoke forth unto the bleak arena of discussion:
>just incase you didnt understand, that was sarcasium.
two seirous flaws here
(i) making a sarcastic remark and then saying "in case you didnt
realise that was sarcasm", is a bit like telling a joke and laughing
at it, in both cases it's because you knew it was a feeble attempt
(ii) spelling sarcasm "sarcasium" just makes you look stupid, which
lets face it is a fair representation
>if someone people are 'wack' because they need good production to sound
>good, then the greatest classical compossers are 'wack' because you
>couldnt record an orchestra on a four tarck and make it a commercail cd
>now, could you?
/me hmms, yes you could actually, we managed to record a 7 piece band
using a 4 track, and it sounded fine, it's just the same technique on
a larger scale,
Mike the Bastard
DarkAngel
16:04:24 +0100 spoke forth unto the bleak arena of discussion:
>ha! me? well, your talking bollox mate. you insult may playing, but you
>know shit. i play in an orchestra,
I played in an orchestra when i was 8, big deal
>a wind band, and today i started
>writing some songs with a classical guiatrist.
so? doesnt mean you're any good
>my last concert was
>performing with a windband infront of 300 people. i play live, i am not
>shit.
oh my god, you've played in front of 300 people! <faints etc>
>the reason we didnt send out the demo is as follows:
>(i) we are crap
>the vocals would come out distorted because:
>we had a shit mic
>we had a shit mic amp.
>we have a shit vocalist
whatever you say, you sound worse than shit, you stand no chance of
making it as musicians, give the fuck up before you embarrass
yourselves
Mike the Bastard
Second Best
letter to alt.zoom
(See DarkAngel, chapter 3 - "Bastard Inc", verses 12 to 43):
>I played in an orchestra when i was 8, big deal
But we're talking about getting in because you're a talented musician...
not because your sucking the cock of the bloke who rins the orchestra
TWiGGY
<Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
>>I played in an orchestra when i was 8, big deal
>But we're talking about getting in because you're a talented musician...
>not because your sucking the cock of the bloke who rins the orchestra
out of nowhere comes a cock sucking reference. so how did you get your
sea food stall?
Second Best
letter to alt.zoom
(See DarkAngel, chapter 3 - "Bastard Inc", verses 12 to 43):
>And this will come as a shock to you, but sound quality means fuck all
>if your musicians suck.
How did Oasis get so far then?
tHE qUEEN bEE
> tHE qUEEN bEE wrote:
> >And you know this how? Been spying on someone while they shower?
> >qUEENIE
(TWiGGY) wrote:
> uh huh. checking out ppl when they are nekked.
Well, my curiosity has the better of me. How does Lion look nekkid anyway?
--
qUEENIE
http://members.tripod.com/~meew/Karen.html
Not the one
<zar...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>the one who calls themself Not the one
><Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> upon the hour of Sat, 19 Sep 1998
>16:04:24 +0100 spoke forth unto the bleak arena of discussion:
>
>>ha! me? well, your talking bollox mate. you insult may playing, but you
>>know shit. i play in an orchestra,
professional. that is a big deal.
>
>>a wind band, and today i started
>>writing some songs with a classical guiatrist.
>so? doesnt mean you're any good
>
>>my last concert was
>>performing with a windband infront of 300 people. i play live, i am not
>>shit.
>oh my god, you've played in front of 300 people! <faints etc>
and i'm playing a solo piece infront of about the same number of people,
possibly more.
>>the reason we didnt send out the demo is as follows:
>>(i) we are crap
>
>>the vocals would come out distorted because:
>>we had a shit mic
>>we had a shit mic amp.
>>we have a shit vocalist
>whatever you say, you sound worse than shit, you stand no chance of
>making it as musicians, give the fuck up before you embarrass
>yourselves
Not the one
<zar...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>>if someone people are 'wack' because they need good production to sound
>>good, then the greatest classical compossers are 'wack' because you
>>couldnt record an orchestra on a four tarck and make it a commercail cd
>>now, could you?
>/me hmms, yes you could actually, we managed to record a 7 piece band
>using a 4 track, and it sounded fine, it's just the same technique on
>a larger scale,
you can only use two mics at once)?
Not the one
<zar...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>>metallicas first album, recorded in shit studio, sounded a bit shit.
>>metallicas last album, recorded in big-fuckoff-type studio, sounds crisp
>>and of high quality...
>it's just a same that the songs on their last album were complete and
>total arse really,
>>also, you obviously know jack shit about recording:
>so? You know jack shit bout music
>
>>we own a 4-track at the moment, which alows you to record 4 instruments,
>>or mics.
><fakes suprise>
>
>>to get good sound quality, you need to put a microphone infront
>>of the amp, or two mics.
>>Also, effects, such as distortion, sound shit on some shitty/cheapy
>>4-track, so you need something such as a vs840, to record to a
>>acceptable standard.
>yeah but all effects sound shit on that feeble excuse of an MFXU your
>brother pisses about with
>And this will come as a shock to you, but sound quality means fuck all
>if your musicians suck.
in such high demand round here, he is THE best drummer around. so go
figure.
TWiGGY
<Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>so you think you could record a 36 piece band using two mics (remeber,
>you can only use two mics at once)?
you could record a million piece band using 2 mikes. but it will sound
wack, and there wont be any definition. some pieces will get lost. and
the percussion will probably cloud over about 999,999 of the
instruments but hey! you could still do it.
TWiGGY
<Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
>>And this will come as a shock to you, but sound quality means fuck all
>>if your musicians suck.
>How did Oasis get so far then?
are you saying you are as good as oasis?
TWiGGY
<dilus...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Well, my curiosity has the better of me. How does Lion look nekkid anyway?
check out the cover of diamond dogs by david bowie.
tHE qUEEN bEE
> tHE qUEEN bEE wrote:
> >Well, my curiosity has the better of me. How does Lion look nekkid anyway?
> (TWiGGY) wrote:
> check out the cover of diamond dogs by david bowie.
My my. Jealousy is very unattractive on you Twiggy!
DarkAngel
<Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.demon.co.uk>
bleak arena of discussion:
>But we're talking about getting in because you're a talented musician...
>not because your sucking the cock of the bloke who rins the orchestra
sorry you seem to have replied to my post by accident, shouldn't you
have said that to your brother?
And for the record I've seen shit with more musical talent than you
and your brother put together
Mike the Bastard
DarkAngel
the hour of Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:15:47 GMT spoke forth unto the bleak
arena of discussion:
>Well, my curiosity has the better of me. How does Lion look nekkid anyway?
shyly, probably from behind the curtain
Mike the bastard
Second Best
umpteenth letter to alt.zoom
(See tHE qUEEN bEE, chapter 3 - "Deja News - The Leader in Internet
Discussion", verses 12 to 43):
>
>
>
>> tHE qUEEN bEE wrote:
>> >And you know this how? Been spying on someone while they shower?
>> >qUEENIE
>
>
>(TWiGGY) wrote:
>> uh huh. checking out ppl when they are nekked.
>
>
>Well, my curiosity has the better of me. How does Lion look nekkid anyway?
You wanna find out? <g>
TWiGGY
<dilus...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >Well, my curiosity has the better of me. How does Lion look nekkid anyway?
>> check out the cover of diamond dogs by david bowie.
>
>My my. Jealousy is very unattractive on you Twiggy!
you didnt even look at the cover!!!!
Second Best
letter to alt.zoom
(See DarkAngel, chapter 3 - "Bastard Inc", verses 12 to 43):
>And for the record I've seen shit with more musical talent than you
>and your brother put together
You haven't heard my brother...
Second Best
letter to alt.zoom
(See TWiGGY, chapter 3 - "The Thieves Guild of New Orleans", verses 12
to 43):
I'm saying Oasis aren't quality musicians. Neither are KoRn. Or Spice
Girls. Or that stupid bitch who wrote the horney song. They all seem to
have done ok for themselfs.
tHE qUEEN bEE
> >> tHE qUEEN bEE wrote:
> >> >And you know this how? Been spying on someone while they shower?
> >> >qUEENIE
> >(TWiGGY) wrote:
> >> uh huh. checking out ppl when they are nekked.
> >Well, my curiosity has the better of me. How does Lion look nekkid anyway?
Second Best wrote:
> You wanna find out? <g>
You stay outta this Lion. *snicker*
tHE qUEEN bEE
Perhaps you can give me the url of such a picture. Then I can decide for
myself! OR.......are you chicken?
qUEENIE
ph...@tcp.co.uk (TWiGGY) wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:13:14 GMT, tHE qUEEN bEE
> <dilus...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Well, my curiosity has the better of me. How does Lion look nekkid
anyway?
>
> >> check out the cover of diamond dogs by david bowie.
> >
> >My my. Jealousy is very unattractive on you Twiggy!
>
> you didnt even look at the cover!!!!
>
TWiGGY
<Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
>I'm saying Oasis aren't quality musicians. Neither are KoRn. Or Spice
>Girls. Or that stupid bitch who wrote the horney song. They all seem to
>have done ok for themselfs.
i think you'll find korn are rather "handy" musicians.
Not the one
writes
could record em with a stero system thats got a mic fixed into it, but
then it'd just sound even worse.
Not the one
<Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHM
M.demon.co.uk> writes
>Neither are KoRn
filedys a good bassist, and daves a very good drummer. guitarist are
shit.
Not the one
writes
>On Sun, 20 Sep 1998 22:46:53 +0100, Second Best
><Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.demon.
>co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>>And this will come as a shock to you, but sound quality means fuck all
>>>if your musicians suck.
>
>>How did Oasis get so far then?
>
>are you saying you are as good as oasis?
cant drum.
Not the one
writes
>On Mon, 21 Sep 1998 20:39:45 +0100, Second Best
><Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.demon.
>co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>I'm saying Oasis aren't quality musicians. Neither are KoRn. Or Spice
>>Girls. Or that stupid bitch who wrote the horney song. They all seem to
>>have done ok for themselfs.
>
>i think you'll find korn are rather "handy" musicians.
riffs, but thats all, simple stuff. dave and fieldy are good though.
Second Best
umpteenth letter to alt.zoom
(See Not the one, chapter 3 - "Civacon-OPW", verses 12 to 43):
>In article <ahfePkBB...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk>, Second Best
><Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHM
>M.demon.co.uk> writes
>>Neither are KoRn
>filedys a good bassist, and daves a very good drummer. guitarist are
>shit.
All Dave does is fill.
Second Best
umpteenth letter to alt.zoom
(See tHE qUEEN bEE, chapter 3 - "Deja News - The Leader in Internet
Discussion", verses 12 to 43):
>> >Well, my curiosity has the better of me. How does Lion look nekkid anyway?
>
> Second Best wrote:
>> You wanna find out? <g>
>
>You stay outta this Lion. *snicker*
Well I would have thought that I was the best one to say what I look
like naked! <g>
And what does *snicker* mean anyway?
Second Best
letter to alt.zoom
(See TWiGGY, chapter 3 - "The Thieves Guild of New Orleans", verses 12
to 43):
>On Mon, 21 Sep 1998 20:39:45 +0100, Second Best
><Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.demon.
>co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>I'm saying Oasis aren't quality musicians. Neither are KoRn. Or Spice
>>Girls. Or that stupid bitch who wrote the horney song. They all seem to
>>have done ok for themselfs.
>
>i think you'll find korn are rather "handy" musicians.
Well they cerianly know how to play power cords followed by random high
notes. Don't get me wrong... I like KoRn. I just don't consider them
good musicians.
DarkAngel
<Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.demon.co.uk>
bleak arena of discussion:
>>And for the record I've seen shit with more musical talent than you
>>and your brother put together
>You haven't heard my brother...
You havent seen my shit
Mike the Bastard
DarkAngel
<Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> upon the hour of Mon, 21 Sep 1998
07:36:27 +0100 spoke forth unto the bleak arena of discussion:
>>I played in an orchestra when i was 8, big deal
>i played in an orecestra with people who are 18, who will become
>professional. that is a big deal.
not really, considering thats what i was doing when I was 8
>>>a wind band, and today i started
>>>writing some songs with a classical guiatrist.
>>so? doesnt mean you're any good
>no, it doesnt, but i am.
there is a word for that, and that word is "bollocks"
>>>my last concert was
>>>performing with a windband infront of 300 people. i play live, i am not
>>>shit.
>>oh my god, you've played in front of 300 people! <faints etc>
>so, how many people have you played infront of then?
several thousand
>and i'm playing a solo piece infront of about the same number of people,
>possibly more.
yes, solo in front of several thousand, probably more
>>>the vocals would come out distorted because:
>>>we had a shit mic
>>>we had a shit mic amp.
>>>we have a shit vocalist
>>whatever you say, you sound worse than shit, you stand no chance of
>>making it as musicians, give the fuck up before you embarrass
>>yourselves
>but you've never heard me play.
no but you can spot a musician without having ever heard them play,
and you are not a musician, okay so I'm not denying you may be
technically sound, but if you sound like a robot, why bother, yeah
great wodnerful your teachers will all think you're great etc, but
considering with all their musical knowledge they could only get a job
teaching while the spice girls are multi-millionaires, go figure
Mike the Bastard
DarkAngel
<Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> upon the hour of Mon, 21 Sep 1998
>>/me hmms, yes you could actually, we managed to record a 7 piece band
>>using a 4 track, and it sounded fine, it's just the same technique on
>>a larger scale,
>so you think you could record a 36 piece band using two mics (remeber,
>you can only use two mics at once)?
yes you could,
Mike the Bastard
DarkAngel
<Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.demon.co.uk>
bleak arena of discussion:
>>And this will come as a shock to you, but sound quality means fuck all
>>if your musicians suck.
>How did Oasis get so far then?
musically Oasis are reasonably sound, it's just that Liam can't sing a
note. And okay they dont play the sort of music you(?) and I care for
but then neither does Mason Williams...Add to that Oasis play teenie
angst ridden stuff which sells well with tennie angst ridden people,
then they became fashionable for realistically not very long and so
all the teenie sheep had to buy their stuff (in other words they got
lucky). This is proven really by how badly their last album croaked,
they havent released anything in about a year (unless i fell asleep
for a week and missed their 4th album) and they are fast becoming
forgotten. Thankfully.
Mike the Bastard
DarkAngel
<Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> upon the hour of Mon, 21 Sep 1998
>>>metallicas first album, recorded in shit studio, sounded a bit shit.
>>>metallicas last album, recorded in big-fuckoff-type studio, sounds crisp
>>>and of high quality...
>>it's just a same that the songs on their last album were complete and
>>total arse really,
>thats personal taste, i'm not even gonna bother arguing that.
fair enough, Metallica got lucky though, they went lame in such a way
that would still sell albums,
>>>also, you obviously know jack shit about recording:
>>so? You know jack shit bout music
>really? and whys that?
rephrase, "you've never said anything to indicate you know jack shit
about music"
>>>to get good sound quality, you need to put a microphone infront
>>>of the amp, or two mics.
>>>Also, effects, such as distortion, sound shit on some shitty/cheapy
>>>4-track, so you need something such as a vs840, to record to a
>>>acceptable standard.
>>yeah but all effects sound shit on that feeble excuse of an MFXU your
>>brother pisses about with
>whatever.
come on, if you're as good a musician as you claim to be, you must
cringe at the thought of it too?
>>And this will come as a shock to you, but sound quality means fuck all
>>if your musicians suck.
>well, i've said this before, and i'll say it again. stunces drummer is
>in such high demand round here, he is THE best drummer around. so go
>figure.
WOW!
so? it does not take a great amount of skill to go round hitting
things, I qote one very good example - Dennis Wilson
Mike the Bastard
TWiGGY
<Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>i think you'll find korn are rather "handy" musicians.
>i think you'll find munky and head arent. ok, they written some cool
>riffs, but thats all, simple stuff. dave and fieldy are good though.
fieldy is the weakest of the four imo. dave is one of the hardest
hitting drummers i have ever seen live, never misses a beat. him and
the drummer from tool have to be the best drummers i have seen. for
sheer "oh my god" factor tho the drummer from sepultura is just
amazing. anyway.
the two guitarists from korn are featured a lot in the guitar press.
do you know why? because they are very very good. you cant just say
that they arent good musicians. neither of them is steve vai. but each
is innovative and new.
that is why there is so much fuss. especially when korn first came out
in 1994. i remember people were like "downtuning eh? this will never
catch on". but bands like korn are now the new breed of metal. ppl
like limp bizkit, and to a much lesser extent the deftones owe their
success to korn. fear factory even went so far as to copy the EXACT
tunings of the guitars. so maybe the guitarists arent hendrix. but
music isnt just about execution. it is about evolution as well.
TWiGGY
<Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
>All Dave does is fill.
bullshit. he is one of the best drummers around. all he does is fill.
gawd. you havent seen the guy live. my friend that drums was like "i
am gonna take up guitar or something, cos i just cant compete with
this".
Second Best
letter to alt.zoom
(See DarkAngel, chapter 3 - "Bastard Inc", verses 12 to 43):
>the one who calls themself Second Best
><Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.demon.
>co.uk>
>upon the hour of Mon, 21 Sep 1998 20:38:26 +0100 spoke forth unto the
>bleak arena of discussion:
>
>>>And for the record I've seen shit with more musical talent than you
>>>and your brother put together
>>You haven't heard my brother...
>You havent seen my shit
Soory mate. I stop at shit. Thanks for the offer... but I just don't do
shit.
tHE qUEEN bEE
zar...@dial.pipex.com wrote:
> >>And for the record I've seen shit with more musical talent than you
> >>and your brother put together
> >You haven't heard my brother...
> You havent seen my shit
> Mike the Bastard
And we have no intention of ever seeing it!
tHE qUEEN bEE
> >> >Well, my curiosity has the better of me. How does Lion look nekkid
anyway?
> >> You wanna find out? <g>
> >You stay outta this Lion. *snicker*
Second Best wrote:
> Well I would have thought that I was the best one to say what I look
> like naked! <g>
> And what does *snicker* mean anyway?
Well, I was asking HIM! He said he saw you nekkid. I wondered why he was
staring.
Snicker = evil grin
tHE qUEEN bEE
zar...@dial.pipex.com wrote:
> >How did Oasis get so far then?
> This is proven really by how badly their last album croaked,
> they havent released anything in about a year (unless i fell asleep
> for a week and missed their 4th album) and they are fast becoming
> forgotten. Thankfully.
>
> Mike the Bastard
>
Who's Oasis?
Not the one
<Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHM
M.demon.co.uk> writes
>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998, the following was written in Not the one's
>umpteenth letter to alt.zoom
>
>(See Not the one, chapter 3 - "Civacon-OPW", verses 12 to 43):
>>In article <ahfePkBB...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk>, Second Best
>><Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHM
>>M.demon.co.uk> writes
>>>Neither are KoRn
>>filedys a good bassist, and daves a very good drummer. guitarist are
>>shit.
there. 'got the life' doesnt do many fills, but's got a cool rythem.
he's a good fill drummer, but he can keep rythem well.
Not the one
<zar...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>the one who calls themself Second Best
><Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.demon.
>co.uk>
>bleak arena of discussion:
>
>>>And this will come as a shock to you, but sound quality means fuck all
>>>if your musicians suck.
shit!'
the bloke form the manics said that. and he was right.
>it's just that Liam can't sing a
>note. And okay they dont play the sort of music you(?) and I care for
>but then neither does Mason Williams...Add to that Oasis play teenie
>angst ridden stuff which sells well with tennie angst ridden people,
>then they became fashionable for realistically not very long and so
>all the teenie sheep had to buy their stuff (in other words they got
>they havent released anything in about a year (unless i fell asleep
>for a week and missed their 4th album) and they are fast becoming
>forgotten. Thankfully.
>
Not the one
<zar...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>>>I played in an orchestra when i was 8, big deal
>>i played in an orecestra with people who are 18, who will become
>>professional. that is a big deal.
>not really, considering thats what i was doing when I was 8
doing, but in actaul fact, you didnt.
>>>>a wind band, and today i started
>>>>writing some songs with a classical guiatrist.
>>>so? doesnt mean you're any good
>>no, it doesnt, but i am.
>there is a word for that, and that word is "bollocks"
>
>>>>my last concert was
>>>>performing with a windband infront of 300 people. i play live, i am not
>>>>shit.
>>>oh my god, you've played in front of 300 people! <faints etc>
>>so, how many people have you played infront of then?
>several thousand
you couldnt play for shit.
>
>>and i'm playing a solo piece infront of about the same number of people,
>>possibly more.
>yes, solo in front of several thousand, probably more
>
>>>>the vocals would come out distorted because:
>>>>we had a shit mic
>>>>we had a shit mic amp.
>>>>we have a shit vocalist
>>>whatever you say, you sound worse than shit, you stand no chance of
>>>making it as musicians, give the fuck up before you embarrass
>>>yourselves
>>but you've never heard me play.
>no but you can spot a musician without having ever heard them play,
thnigs they say, then you do know shit.
>and you are not a musician, okay so I'm not denying you may be
>technically sound, but if you sound like a robot, why bother, yeah
>great wodnerful your teachers will all think you're great etc, but
>considering with all their musical knowledge they could only get a job
>teaching while the spice girls are multi-millionaires, go figure
>
he's appeard on albums, even made some with his band. his rich as well,
because h's so fucking good. and he thinks i'm a pretty damn good
musician. so go figure mate.
Not the one
<zar...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>>>>metallicas first album, recorded in shit studio, sounded a bit shit.
>>>>metallicas last album, recorded in big-fuckoff-type studio, sounds crisp
>>>>and of high quality...
>>>it's just a same that the songs on their last album were complete and
>>>total arse really,
>>thats personal taste, i'm not even gonna bother arguing that.
>fair enough, Metallica got lucky though, they went lame in such a way
>that would still sell albums,
>
>>>>also, you obviously know jack shit about recording:
>>>so? You know jack shit bout music
>>really? and whys that?
>rephrase, "you've never said anything to indicate you know jack shit
>about music"
theroy crap i know, but i really cant be arsed to say how many flats
there are in the key of D flat minor. ok?
>
>>>>to get good sound quality, you need to put a microphone infront
>>>>of the amp, or two mics.
>>>>Also, effects, such as distortion, sound shit on some shitty/cheapy
>>>>4-track, so you need something such as a vs840, to record to a
>>>>acceptable standard.
>>>yeah but all effects sound shit on that feeble excuse of an MFXU your
>>>brother pisses about with
>>whatever.
>come on, if you're as good a musician as you claim to be, you must
>cringe at the thought of it too?
quality for £100. its ok for little jams or something, but not for gigs
or recording.
>>>And this will come as a shock to you, but sound quality means fuck all
>>>if your musicians suck.
>>in such high demand round here, he is THE best drummer around. so go
>>figure.
>WOW!
>
>so? it does not take a great amount of skill to go round hitting
>things, I qote one very good example - Dennis Wilson
i'd really love to hear you attempting to play a grade 8 drum piece. i
really would.
Not the one
writes
>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:38:21 +0100, Not the one
><Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>i think you'll find korn are rather "handy" musicians.
>
>>i think you'll find munky and head arent. ok, they written some cool
>>riffs, but thats all, simple stuff. dave and fieldy are good though.
>
>fieldy is the weakest of the four imo.
amazingly quick muted to non-muted riffs as well.
he uses some cool equipment to get that clicky sound as well.
>dave is one of the hardest
>hitting drummers i have ever seen live, never misses a beat. him and
>the drummer from tool have to be the best drummers i have seen. for
>sheer "oh my god" factor tho the drummer from sepultura is just
>amazing. anyway.
on, and thats fucking amazing.
>
>the two guitarists from korn are featured a lot in the guitar press.
>do you know why? because they are very very good. you cant just say
>that they arent good musicians. neither of them is steve vai. but each
>is innovative and new.
>
>that is why there is so much fuss. especially when korn first came out
>in 1994. i remember people were like "downtuning eh? this will never
>catch on". but bands like korn are now the new breed of metal. ppl
>like limp bizkit, and to a much lesser extent the deftones owe their
>success to korn. fear factory even went so far as to copy the EXACT
>tunings of the guitars. so maybe the guitarists arent hendrix. but
>music isnt just about execution. it is about evolution as well.
a classic metal riff. but i wouldnt put fiedly or munky in my 'dream
team' of a band.
Second Best
umpteenth letter to alt.zoom
(See tHE qUEEN bEE, chapter 3 - "Deja News - The Leader in Internet
Discussion", verses 12 to 43):
>
>
>
>> >> >Well, my curiosity has the better of me. How does Lion look nekkid
>anyway?
>
>> >> You wanna find out? <g>
>
>> >You stay outta this Lion. *snicker*
>
>Second Best wrote:
>> Well I would have thought that I was the best one to say what I look
>> like naked! <g>
>> And what does *snicker* mean anyway?
>
>Well, I was asking HIM! He said he saw you nekkid. I wondered why he was
>staring.
Well if you saw me naked, you'd understand why he was staring! <g>
>Snicker = evil grin
indeed
Second Best
letter to alt.zoom
(See DarkAngel, chapter 3 - "Bastard Inc", verses 12 to 43):
>fair enough, Metallica got lucky though, they went lame in such a way
>that would still sell albums,
uh.... when "Load" came out.... 90% of Metallica fans wanted another
album like "The Black Album". If they wanted to sell albums they'd have
made an album like The Black Album. Load sold half as many copies as the
Black Album in thier respective first years. Go figure.
TWiGGY
<Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>oh dear, oh dear. my bass teacher has traveld the world playing bass.
>he's appeard on albums, even made some with his band. his rich as well,
>because h's so fucking good. and he thinks i'm a pretty damn good
>musician. so go figure mate.
if your bass teacher told you that you were shit, that would mean he
was a shit bass teacher, and you wouldnt pay him. thus, he tells you
that you are good.
TWiGGY
<Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>fieldy is the weakest of the four imo.
>no, he's got one of the nest slap techniques around. he does some
>amazingly quick muted to non-muted riffs as well.
>he uses some cool equipment to get that clicky sound as well.
i do not agree. but that is my opinion. best bass player around in my
opinion is les claypool. dweezil zappa is also pretty "handy".
TWiGGY
<Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
>uh.... when "Load" came out.... 90% of Metallica fans wanted another
>album like "The Black Album". If they wanted to sell albums they'd have
>made an album like The Black Album. Load sold half as many copies as the
>Black Album in thier respective first years. Go figure.
Load didnt do very well because it was shit and metallica totally sold
out. metal magazines printed this shocking news, and the new breed of
metal fan who likes their marilyn manson and their korn decided that
metallica were shit for selling out, even tho they only ever bought
the black album cos kerrang said it was good. and old metallica fans
decided that they were shit for selling out, because they remembered
wot metallica were like before they cut their hair and got piercings.
Second Best
letter to alt.zoom
(See TWiGGY, chapter 3 - "The Thieves Guild of New Orleans", verses 12
to 43):
>On Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:32:11 +0100, Second Best
><Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.demon.
>co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>uh.... when "Load" came out.... 90% of Metallica fans wanted another
>>album like "The Black Album". If they wanted to sell albums they'd have
>>made an album like The Black Album. Load sold half as many copies as the
>>Black Album in thier respective first years. Go figure.
>
>Load didnt do very well because it was shit and metallica totally sold
>out.
Please define selling out. "Selling out" as in selling out to public
demand, is giving the public what they want.... how is Load doing this?
I know absolutely nobody who *ONLY* likes the last two albums, so they
haven't gained any public acceptance.
> metal magazines printed this shocking news, and the new breed of
>metal fan who likes their marilyn manson and their korn decided that
>metallica were shit for selling out, even tho they only ever bought
>the black album cos kerrang said it was good. and old metallica fans
>decided that they were shit for selling out, because they remembered
>wot metallica were like before they cut their hair and got piercings.
They looked ugly before they cut thier hair. Hammet still does, and
nobody will ever help him. Newstead looks ok now. Lars looks the same as
ever, and James is just a sex god. But they all look better with short
hair.
Second Best
letter to alt.zoom
(See TWiGGY, chapter 3 - "The Thieves Guild of New Orleans", verses 12
to 43):
>On Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:37:37 +0100, Not the one
><Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>oh dear, oh dear. my bass teacher has traveld the world playing bass.
>>he's appeard on albums, even made some with his band. his rich as well,
>>because h's so fucking good. and he thinks i'm a pretty damn good
>>musician. so go figure mate.
>
>if your bass teacher told you that you were shit, that would mean he
>was a shit bass teacher, and you wouldnt pay him. thus, he tells you
>that you are good.
what about his fellow musicians? And even his arch-rival Joe?
And a good teacher will say when somebody is shit... just not in quite
those words.
TWiGGY
<Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
>Please define selling out. "Selling out" as in selling out to public
>demand, is giving the public what they want.... how is Load doing this?
>I know absolutely nobody who *ONLY* likes the last two albums, so they
>haven't gained any public acceptance.
selling out and going fashionable. eg, short hair metal. eg piercings.
eg black nail varnish. unfortuneatly for them it didnt work. this was
because people noticed a rather dramatic change. selling out isnt
giving in to public demand. they did what they thought would sell more
records. they were wrong. now they have gone back to the old routine
(see unforgiven 2). generally selling out will get you slated by
people in the know. you obviously dont know what i means.
tHE qUEEN bEE
Second Best wrote:
> >> >> >Well, my curiosity has the better of me. How does Lion look nekkid
> >anyway?
> >> >> You wanna find out? <g>
> >> >You stay outta this Lion. *snicker*
> >> Well I would have thought that I was the best one to say what I look
> >> like naked! <g>
> >> And what does *snicker* mean anyway?
> >Well, I was asking HIM! He said he saw you nekkid. I wondered why he was
> >staring.
> Well if you saw me naked, you'd understand why he was staring! <g>
> >Snicker = evil grin
> indeed
Double INDEED! =)
Not the one
writes
>On Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:37:37 +0100, Not the one
><Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>oh dear, oh dear. my bass teacher has traveld the world playing bass.
>>he's appeard on albums, even made some with his band. his rich as well,
>>because h's so fucking good. and he thinks i'm a pretty damn good
>>musician. so go figure mate.
>
>if your bass teacher told you that you were shit, that would mean he
>was a shit bass teacher, and you wouldnt pay him. thus, he tells you
>that you are good.
picked out so many things i was doing wrong. if someone tells you you'r
good when your obviously not, then theres no point. he always said you
should be critical of your own playing and other peoples.
Not the one
writes
>Load didnt do very well because it was shit and metallica totally sold
>metal fan who likes their marilyn manson and their korn decided that
>metallica were shit for selling out, even tho they only ever bought
>the black album cos kerrang said it was good. and old metallica fans
>decided that they were shit for selling out, because they remembered
>wot metallica were like before they cut their hair and got piercings.
the whole selling out thing again. selling out is when you change to
sell MORE records, but they changed to piss people off, because they
wanted to, and it gave them more room musically. thats not selling out.
Not the one
writes
>On Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:40:37 +0100, Not the one
><Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>fieldy is the weakest of the four imo.
>
>>no, he's got one of the nest slap techniques around. he does some
>>amazingly quick muted to non-muted riffs as well.
>>he uses some cool equipment to get that clicky sound as well.
>
>i do not agree. but that is my opinion. best bass player around in my
>opinion is les claypool. dweezil zappa is also pretty "handy".
bad. not excatly complect, but some cool lines. Zappa is very good
though. jason newstead could be so much better, but he hides behind
james and kirk too much.
TWiGGY
<Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>the whole selling out thing again. selling out is when you change to
>sell MORE records, but they changed to piss people off, because they
>wanted to, and it gave them more room musically. thats not selling out.
k. they changed to sell more records. in interviews they are asked,
why did you change? a good response is not "because we are corporate
rock whores and we sold out". a 'cool' response, is "to piss people
off", to rage against the machine as it were. they changed to sell
more records but it didnt work. they misjudged their market.
Not the one
writes
'we're not trying to be nothing big and fancy you know, we're just four
guys, doing what we do, you know?' - cliff burton.
and they are just doing what they do. lars has taken more control over
the band, which is the main reason, i think, why they have changed so
much. jason newstead had said he still loves all the old stuff, but one
of his favourite songs in low mans lyric. it is just them, because you
can hear that they still are metallica, but its just new.
Not the one
writes
>selling out and going fashionable. eg, short hair metal. eg piercings.
>eg black nail varnish. unfortuneatly for them it didnt work. this was
>because people noticed a rather dramatic change. selling out isnt
>giving in to public demand. they did what they thought would sell more
>records. they were wrong. now they have gone back to the old routine
>(see unforgiven 2). generally selling out will get you slated by
>people in the know. you obviously dont know what i means.
but then you have to ask the question, who cares that they have short
hair, have nail vanish, or if they dont wear fucking leather all the
time?!? does it matter? i couldnt care less if they still had long hair,
or if they had short hair.
anyway, you could say they sold out after the release of ride the
lightning. there are not two albums that sound the same. i wouldnt even
say load and re-load sound identical, even though they were recorded in
the same sessions, re-load is a much darker album IMO.
Second Best
umpteenth letter to alt.zoom
(See tHE qUEEN bEE, chapter 3 - "Deja News - The Leader in Internet
Discussion", verses 12 to 43):
>
>
> Second Best wrote:
>> >> >> >Well, my curiosity has the better of me. How does Lion look nekkid
>> >anyway?
>
>> >> >> You wanna find out? <g>
>
>> >> >You stay outta this Lion. *snicker*
>
>> >> Well I would have thought that I was the best one to say what I look
>> >> like naked! <g>
>> >> And what does *snicker* mean anyway?
>
>
>> >Well, I was asking HIM! He said he saw you nekkid. I wondered why he was
>> >staring.
>> Well if you saw me naked, you'd understand why he was staring! <g>
>> >Snicker = evil grin
>> indeed
>
>Double INDEED! =)
quadrouple ***INDEED***
Second Best
letter to alt.zoom
(See TWiGGY, chapter 3 - "The Thieves Guild of New Orleans", verses 12
to 43):
>On Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:43:13 +0100, Second Best
><Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.demon.
>co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>Please define selling out. "Selling out" as in selling out to public
>>demand, is giving the public what they want.... how is Load doing this?
>>I know absolutely nobody who *ONLY* likes the last two albums, so they
>>haven't gained any public acceptance.
>
>selling out and going fashionable. eg, short hair metal. eg piercings.
>eg black nail varnish. unfortuneatly for them it didnt work. this was
>because people noticed a rather dramatic change. selling out isnt
>giving in to public demand. they did what they thought would sell more
>records. they were wrong. now they have gone back to the old routine
>(see unforgiven 2). generally selling out will get you slated by
>people in the know. you obviously dont know what i means.
Unforgiven II Is hardly in any way similar to anything off of the Black
Album. It rocks in a way the origional just ***COULDN'T***.
And think of this.... if Metallica wanted to sell more records then the
ultimate way would have been to release "Unforgiven II" as the FIRST
single off of ReLaod (ie. Before the album was released).
Think about it... the people who bought it would be:
a) The people who liked the Black Album and thought that with Unforgiven
II, maybee Metallica were gonna be like they werre "before"
b) People who liked liked Load and thought that Unforgiven II would be
like, say, Unforgiven mixed with Hero Of The Day
c) People who'd actully *heard* the song and liked it
It's pretty obvious that if Metallica were a commercial band who only
wanted to sell records, then theny'd have put "Unforgiven II" before
"Memory Remains" on the release schedules. Like Ulrich said "we're all
multi-millionaaires anyway. We have no need to make any money now. We
can just do what the fuck we like"
Second Best
letter to alt.zoom
(See TWiGGY, chapter 3 - "The Thieves Guild of New Orleans", verses 12
to 43):
>they misjudged their market.
So why ReLoad then? Why not change back and do REBlack Album?
HoHum.
There was 5 years between The Black Album and Load. You should expect a
big change in that period. If there had been an Album between Black and
Load it'd have been really cool: being halfway between the two
musically. But there *wasn't* an album between the two and if anybody
expectsd any bad to sound the same after 5 years then they're fools.
Fool.
DarkAngel
<Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> upon the hour of Wed, 23 Sep 1998
19:45:47 +0100 spoke forth unto the bleak arena of discussion:
>>>thats personal taste, i'm not even gonna bother arguing that.
>>fair enough, Metallica got lucky though, they went lame in such a way
>>that would still sell albums,
>hm, whatever, i still love the music.
fair enuf, i personally think it was a serious CLM but that may be
just me
>>>>>also, you obviously know jack shit about recording:
>>>>so? You know jack shit bout music
>>>really? and whys that?
>>rephrase, "you've never said anything to indicate you know jack shit
>>about music"
>and what exactly do you want me to say? i could go on about all the
>theroy crap i know, but i really cant be arsed to say how many flats
>there are in the key of D flat minor. ok?
oh wow you know about key sigs!!! well im impressed,
>>>>>to get good sound quality, you need to put a microphone infront
>>>>>of the amp, or two mics.
>>>>>Also, effects, such as distortion, sound shit on some shitty/cheapy
>>>>>4-track, so you need something such as a vs840, to record to a
>>>>>acceptable standard.
>>>>yeah but all effects sound shit on that feeble excuse of an MFXU your
>>>>brother pisses about with
>>>whatever.
>>come on, if you're as good a musician as you claim to be, you must
>>cringe at the thought of it too?
>admittedly, the zooms are a bit shitty. i mean, you cant expect studio
>quality for £100. its ok for little jams or something, but not for gigs
>or recording.
tbh it's a cheep array for a beginner isnt it, when you get serious
about music you get serious about your sound too, and you have to go
and buy separate pedals, more control, better sound, et al.
>>so? it does not take a great amount of skill to go round hitting
>>things, I qote one very good example - Dennis Wilson
>i'd really love to hear you attempting to play a grade 8 drum piece. i
>really would.
hey im not saying i can play, i'm saying compared to guitar it's a
piece of piss. I'd love to hear this drummer of yours play even a
grade 3 guitar piece,
Mike
DarkAngel
<Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> upon the hour of Wed, 23 Sep 1998
>>musically Oasis are reasonably sound,
>'open string chords played badly, i'm not saying i'm great, but there
>shit!'
you dont think maybe they were trying to play them badly?
>the bloke form the manics said that. and he was right.
possibly, but i still think they're reasonably sound, certainly as far
as music goes these days, okay a /serious/ guitarist wouldnt use them
to warm up but they can be fun, they are in many respects like the
beatles, they themselves arent exactly brilliant, but you can do good
stuff with their songs
>i cant stand the guitars or the vocals. their shit.
well, liam cant sing, to be honest johnny rotton was more melodic.
Mike
DarkAngel
<Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.demon.co.uk>
upon the hour of Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:33:18 +0100 spoke forth unto the
bleak arena of discussion:
>>>You haven't heard my brother...
>>You havent seen my shit
>Soory mate. I stop at shit. Thanks for the offer... but I just don't do
>shit.
so do i, thats why i havent heard your brother
Mike the Bastard
DarkAngel
<Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> upon the hour of Wed, 23 Sep 1998
>>>i played in an orecestra with people who are 18, who will become
>>>professional. that is a big deal.
>>not really, considering thats what i was doing when I was 8
>yeah, you were sitting in the corner pretending you knew what you were
>doing, but in actaul fact, you didnt.
er, no i was sitting one row from the front right behind the stupidly
good people.
>>>>>a wind band, and today i started
>>>>>writing some songs with a classical guiatrist.
>>>>so? doesnt mean you're any good
>>>no, it doesnt, but i am.
>>there is a word for that, and that word is "bollocks"
>you ahvent heard me play.. balh blah blah....
okay then, .wav some of it and stick it on a page, dont worry about
dropping the quality of the wav to save time because i dont intend to
get into a "sound quality" argument when we're looking for technique
etc,
>>>>>my last concert was
>>>>>performing with a windband infront of 300 people. i play live, i am not
>>>>>shit.
>>>>oh my god, you've played in front of 300 people! <faints etc>
>>>so, how many people have you played infront of then?
>>several thousand
>and they all went 'aw' when you went of stage crying when you realived
>you couldnt play for shit.
no they all went "hey that guy's good" and gave me some money.
>>>and i'm playing a solo piece infront of about the same number of people,
>>>possibly more.
>>yes, solo in front of several thousand, probably more
>rally? bullshit.
no, not bullshit, happened, will happen again if i want it to
>>>>>the vocals would come out distorted because:
>>>>>we had a shit mic
>>>>>we had a shit mic amp.
>>>>>we have a shit vocalist
>>>>whatever you say, you sound worse than shit, you stand no chance of
>>>>making it as musicians, give the fuck up before you embarrass
>>>>yourselves
>>>but you've never heard me play.
>>no but you can spot a musician without having ever heard them play,
>ha! bullshit, buuuuullllshit! if you judge someones musical skill on
>thnigs they say, then you do know shit.
you can usually tell from talking to someone, thats why i used to do
two auditions and shortlist without hearing people
>>and you are not a musician, okay so I'm not denying you may be
>>technically sound, but if you sound like a robot, why bother, yeah
>>great wodnerful your teachers will all think you're great etc, but
>>considering with all their musical knowledge they could only get a job
>>teaching while the spice girls are multi-millionaires, go figure
>oh dear, oh dear. my bass teacher has traveld the world playing bass.
>he's appeard on albums, even made some with his band. his rich as well,
>because h's so fucking good. and he thinks i'm a pretty damn good
>musician. so go figure mate.
yeah so? i've fucking appeared on albums and made some, ergo by your
criteria my opinion is as good as his. bare in mind also for your age
"good" means mediocre, i know because i've been there, and everyone
told me how good i was, but in comparrison to how i am now, i sucked
Mike the Bastard
DarkAngel
Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:16:14 GMT spoke forth unto the bleak arena of
discussion:
>i do not agree. but that is my opinion. best bass player around in my
>opinion is les claypool. dweezil zappa is also pretty "handy".
no, the best bass player around is steve harris, okay so he's getting
on a bit, but he's still god
(turns to face south and bows to hammersmith)
Mike the Bastard
DarkAngel
discussion:
>cos kerrang said it was good.
these days i generally get kerrangs reviews and buy stuff they reckon
is shit, since none of their reviewers seem to have a clue any more,
it's like walking into a computer shop and having to talk about
computers to some gobshite who only knows about playstation
>and old metallica fans
>decided that they were shit for selling out, because they remembered
>wot metallica were like before they cut their hair and got piercings.
amen
Mike the bastard
DarkAngel
<Li...@fluidcontrol.ANDsodemonaregonnachuckmeoffforusingthisblokaretheyHMM.demon.co.uk>
upon the hour of Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:32:11 +0100 spoke forth unto the
bleak arena of discussion:
>uh.... when "Load" came out.... 90% of Metallica fans wanted another
>album like "The Black Album". If they wanted to sell albums they'd have
>made an album like The Black Album. Load sold half as many copies as the
>Black Album in thier respective first years. Go figure.
yeah but they still shifted a whole fuck lot of albums, they could
have lamed up in a much more serious fashion,
how does "and supporting hanson, metallica" sound to you,
Mike the Bastard
TWiGGY
<Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>but then you have to ask the question, who cares that they have short
>hair, have nail vanish, or if they dont wear fucking leather all the
>time?!? does it matter? i couldnt care less if they still had long hair,
>or if they had short hair.
yo. but you are not a trendy metal fan. who swears by what kerrang
say. the people i am talking about say things like "yeah well marilyn
manson rock, because you know, satan, marilyn manson rock man, marilyn
manson fuckin rock".
TWiGGY
<Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>bullshit!
>'we're not trying to be nothing big and fancy you know, we're just four
>guys, doing what we do, you know?' - cliff burton.
stop me if im wrong, but isnt he the dead bassist? cos if he is, the
selling out phase is long after his time. if he isnt, then i am sorry.
>and they are just doing what they do. lars has taken more control over
>the band, which is the main reason, i think, why they have changed so
>much. jason newstead had said he still loves all the old stuff, but one
>of his favourite songs in low mans lyric. it is just them, because you
>can hear that they still are metallica, but its just new.
what they do is master of puppets, enter the sandman, heavy metal is
what they do. it isnt power pop ballads like that "the hero saves the
day" is that right? they arent short hair, they arent piercings, they
arent black nail varnish. move with the times by all means. but you
must admit, the change of image and sound was rather drastic wasnt it?
tHE qUEEN bEE
Second Best wrote:
> >> >> >> >Well, my curiosity has the better of me. How does Lion look nekkid
> >> >anyway?
> >
> >> >> >> You wanna find out? <g>
> >
> >> >> >You stay outta this Lion. *snicker*
> >
> >> >> Well I would have thought that I was the best one to say what I look
> >> >> like naked! <g>
> >> >> And what does *snicker* mean anyway?
> >
> >
> >> >Well, I was asking HIM! He said he saw you nekkid. I wondered why he was
> >> >staring.
> >> Well if you saw me naked, you'd understand why he was staring! <g>
> >> >Snicker = evil grin
> >> indeed
> >
> >Double INDEED! =)
> quadrouple ***INDEED***
Octdouble INDEED!
Not the one
writes
>On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:57:32 +0100, Not the one
><Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>bullshit!
>
>>'we're not trying to be nothing big and fancy you know, we're just four
>>guys, doing what we do, you know?' - cliff burton.
>
>stop me if im wrong, but isnt he the dead bassist?
> cos if he is, the
>selling out phase is long after his time. if he isnt, then i am sorry.
diffrent albums, so you could say he was in the 'selling out phase'
>
>>and they are just doing what they do. lars has taken more control over
>>the band, which is the main reason, i think, why they have changed so
>>much. jason newstead had said he still loves all the old stuff, but one
>>of his favourite songs in low mans lyric. it is just them, because you
>>can hear that they still are metallica, but its just new.
>
>what they do is master of puppets, enter the sandman, heavy metal is
>what they do. it isnt power pop ballads like that "the hero saves the
>day"
drugs song.
> is that right? they arent short hair, they arent piercings, they
>arent black nail varnish. move with the times by all means. but you
>must admit, the change of image and sound was rather drastic wasnt it?
whole thing with the make up and the white vests on the inside of Load
to try and get rid of the matcho thing in metal.
Not the one
<zar...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>>>musically Oasis are reasonably sound,
>>'open string chords played badly, i'm not saying i'm great, but there
>>shit!'
>you dont think maybe they were trying to play them badly?
>
>>the bloke form the manics said that. and he was right.
>possibly, but i still think they're reasonably sound, certainly as far
>as music goes these days, okay a /serious/ guitarist wouldnt use them
>to warm up but they can be fun, they are in many respects like the
>beatles, they themselves arent exactly brilliant, but you can do good
>stuff with their songs
not really, but they just play them very badly.
>
>>i cant stand the guitars or the vocals. their shit.
>well, liam cant sing, to be honest johnny rotton was more melodic.
>
Not the one
<zar...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>>>not really, considering thats what i was doing when I was 8
>>yeah, you were sitting in the corner pretending you knew what you were
>>doing, but in actaul fact, you didnt.
>er, no i was sitting one row from the front right behind the stupidly
>good people.
>
>>>>>>a wind band, and today i started
>>>>>>writing some songs with a classical guiatrist.
>>>>>so? doesnt mean you're any good
>>>>no, it doesnt, but i am.
>>>there is a word for that, and that word is "bollocks"
>>you ahvent heard me play.. balh blah blah....
>okay then, .wav some of it and stick it on a page, dont worry about
>dropping the quality of the wav to save time because i dont intend to
>get into a "sound quality" argument when we're looking for technique
>etc,
now. i'm compossing CGSE music pieces, i'm compossing my own pieces,
i've got orchestra tuesday nights and windband thursday nights. but if i
ever get time, then i proably will.
>>>>>>my last concert was
>>>>>>performing with a windband infront of 300 people. i play live, i am not
>>>>>>shit.
>>>>>oh my god, you've played in front of 300 people! <faints etc>
>>>>so, how many people have you played infront of then?
>>>several thousand
>>and they all went 'aw' when you went of stage crying when you realived
>>you couldnt play for shit.
>no they all went "hey that guy's good" and gave me some money.
>>>>and i'm playing a solo piece infront of about the same number of people,
>>>>possibly more.
>>>yes, solo in front of several thousand, probably more
>>rally? bullshit.
>no, not bullshit, happened, will happen again if i want it to
>>>>but you've never heard me play.
>>>no but you can spot a musician without having ever heard them play,
>>ha! bullshit, buuuuullllshit! if you judge someones musical skill on
>>thnigs they say, then you do know shit.
>you can usually tell from talking to someone, thats why i used to do
>two auditions and shortlist without hearing people
are right tossers, but brillant musicians. they thought they were great,
and they were. i've met people who are cool to get on with, but thought
they were shit, but they werent, they are fucking good.
>
>>>and you are not a musician, okay so I'm not denying you may be
>>>technically sound, but if you sound like a robot, why bother, yeah
>>>great wodnerful your teachers will all think you're great etc, but
>>>considering with all their musical knowledge they could only get a job
>>>teaching while the spice girls are multi-millionaires, go figure
>>oh dear, oh dear. my bass teacher has traveld the world playing bass.
>>he's appeard on albums, even made some with his band. his rich as well,
>>because h's so fucking good. and he thinks i'm a pretty damn good
>>musician. so go figure mate.
>yeah so? i've fucking appeared on albums and made some, ergo by your
>criteria my opinion is as good as his. bare in mind also for your age
>"good" means mediocre, i know because i've been there, and everyone
>told me how good i was, but in comparrison to how i am now, i sucked
>
renound for being good, ok? he doesn't talk shit.
Not the one
<zar...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>>>>thats personal taste, i'm not even gonna bother arguing that.
>>>fair enough, Metallica got lucky though, they went lame in such a way
>>>that would still sell albums,
>>hm, whatever, i still love the music.
>fair enuf, i personally think it was a serious CLM but that may be
>just me
>
>>>>>>also, you obviously know jack shit about recording:
>>>>>so? You know jack shit bout music
>>>>really? and whys that?
>>>rephrase, "you've never said anything to indicate you know jack shit
>>>about music"
>>and what exactly do you want me to say? i could go on about all the
>>theroy crap i know, but i really cant be arsed to say how many flats
>>there are in the key of D flat minor. ok?
>oh wow you know about key sigs!!! well im impressed,
>
>>>come on, if you're as good a musician as you claim to be, you must
>>>cringe at the thought of it too?
>>admittedly, the zooms are a bit shitty. i mean, you cant expect studio
>>quality for £100. its ok for little jams or something, but not for gigs
>>or recording.
>tbh it's a cheep array for a beginner isnt it, when you get serious
>about music you get serious about your sound too, and you have to go
>and buy separate pedals, more control, better sound, et al.
zoom506 and sold it. i'm looking to buy a boss chorus now.
>
>>>so? it does not take a great amount of skill to go round hitting
>>>things, I qote one very good example - Dennis Wilson
>>i'd really love to hear you attempting to play a grade 8 drum piece. i
>>really would.
>hey im not saying i can play, i'm saying compared to guitar it's a
>piece of piss.
>grade 3 guitar piece,
Second Best
umpteenth letter to alt.zoom
(See tHE qUEEN bEE, chapter 3 - "Deja News - The Leader in Internet
Discussion", verses 12 to 43):
>
>
> Second Best wrote:
>> >> >> >> >Well, my curiosity has the better of me. How does Lion look nekkid
>> >> >anyway?
>> >
>> >> >> >> You wanna find out? <g>
>> >
>> >> >> >You stay outta this Lion. *snicker*
>> >
>> >> >> Well I would have thought that I was the best one to say what I look
>> >> >> like naked! <g>
>> >> >> And what does *snicker* mean anyway?
>> >
>> >
>> >> >Well, I was asking HIM! He said he saw you nekkid. I wondered why he was
>> >> >staring.
>> >> Well if you saw me naked, you'd understand why he was staring! <g>
>> >> >Snicker = evil grin
>> >> indeed
>> >
>> >Double INDEED! =)
>> quadrouple ***INDEED***
>Octdouble INDEED!
Hexadouple INDEEEEEEEEED!
Not the one
writes
>On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:54:39 +0100, Not the one
><Ol...@fluidcontrol.demon.co.uk> wrote:
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>>but then you have to ask the question, who cares that they have short
>>hair, have nail vanish, or if they dont wear fucking leather all the
>>time?!? does it matter? i couldnt care less if they still had long hair,
>>or if they had short hair.
>
>yo. but you are not a trendy metal fan. who swears by what kerrang
>say. the people i am talking about say things like "yeah well marilyn
>manson rock, because you know, satan, marilyn manson rock man, marilyn
>manson fuckin rock".
yeah, we're all pissed of with those kind of people, but you cant help
but get them. nirvana had so many fans like that, they tried to get rid
of them by makinf In Utero, but i still didnt work.