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Richard McIntosh

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Aug 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/14/98
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I recommend:

Backgammon: Winning with the Doubling Cube (Bell, 1997)
Cubes and Gammons Near the End of a Match (Ortega/Kleinman, 1997)
How to Play Tournament Backgammon (Woolsey, 1993)

Regards,
Richard McIntosh

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s...@ghgjhfd.com wrote:
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> What's the best backgammon book out there that focuses on the
> doubling-cube? Thanks.

s...@ghgjhfd.com

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Aug 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/15/98
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spurs

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Aug 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/15/98
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Well, I got matches and end-game cubes covered, BUT.....
I am having doubts about my cube use in money games and chouettes, esp.
where Jacoby is in effect.
Is there any treatise on this out there?

Roy....... losing my assurance......

Richard McIntosh wrote:

> I recommend:
>
> Backgammon: Winning with the Doubling Cube (Bell, 1997)
> Cubes and Gammons Near the End of a Match (Ortega/Kleinman, 1997)
> How to Play Tournament Backgammon (Woolsey, 1993)
>
> Regards,
> Richard McIntosh
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> BackGammon By the Bay Backgammon Deli
> http://www.backgammon.org/bgbb/ http://www.straight8.com/bg.deli
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> s...@ghgjhfd.com wrote:
> >

Art Grater

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Aug 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/15/98
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If you don't mind reading 35 words where 3 will do, there's the
oft-derided Dynamic Cube Strategy (Gaby Horowitz & Bruce Roman, (c)
1980).

I just noticed, prophetically enough, that Horowitz (ex-husband of
Marcia Clark) dedicates the book "To Marcia and Ron"....


On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 11:01:25 -0700, spurs <qui...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

Chuck Bower

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Aug 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/16/98
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In article <35d5085...@news.interserv.com>, <s...@ghgjhfd.com> wrote:
>What's the best backgammon book out there that focuses on the
>doubling-cube? Thanks.

I'm not quite sure how to interpret "...focuses on the doubling-cube".
Robertie's two volume "Advanced BG" is (by my recollection) about 2/3
problems on doubling decisions and 1/3 on play decisions. That book is
my recommendation on money cube strategy. Danny Kleinman's "Vision
Laughs at Counting, with Advice to the Dicelorn"--also a two volume set--
(don't let the weirdo title distract you!) has some really sound (IMO)
discussions on doubling strategy, particularly on how to handle imperfect
opponents. Neither book is cheap ($35 PER volume for Robertie; $80 for both
volumes of Kleinman's).

I consider "Advanced BG" a 'must read (multiple times!)' for any serious
player. Kleinman is also on my recommended reading list (which I posted
a week or so ago). He is more esoteric/theoretical. If you have only
$70-80 to 'invest', go with Robertie. (Here I am assuming a player already
is knowledgable at the Magriel level.) BTW, Robertie's two volumes are
split "Positional Play" and "Technical Play" (and I don't at the moment
know which is volume I and which is volume II). If you have only $35,
you are probably slightly better off getting the 'Positional' volume, but
that is like being forced to choose between ice cream and cake!

A good place to buy ANY bg supplies is from Carol Joy Cole. Write her
at c...@flint.org for details.


Chuck
bo...@bigbang.astro.indiana.edu
c_ray on FIBS


Dave Hart

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Aug 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/16/98
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Chuck! Kit Woolsey's "How To Play Tournament BG" doesn't rate???

Geesh!

Chuck Bower

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Aug 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/16/98
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In article <35D68522...@niteshift.com>,

Dave Hart <dh...@niteshift.com> wrote:
>Chuck! Kit Woolsey's "How To Play Tournament BG" doesn't rate???
>
>Geesh!
>
>Chuck Bower wrote:
>>
>> In article <35d5085...@news.interserv.com>, <s...@ghgjhfd.com> wrote:
>> >What's the best backgammon book out there that focuses on the
>> >doubling-cube? Thanks.
>>
>> I'm not quite sure how to interpret "...focuses on the doubling-cube".
>> Robertie's two volume "Advanced BG" is (by my recollection) about 2/3
>> problems on doubling decisions and 1/3 on play decisions. That book is
>> my recommendation on money cube strategy. Danny Kleinman's "Vision
(Oh, Dave... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ please note)

>> Laughs at Counting, with Advice to the Dicelorn"--also a two volume set--
>> (don't let the weirdo title distract you!) has some really sound (IMO)
>> discussions on doubling strategy, particularly on how to handle imperfect
>> opponents.
(snip)

Well, it was pretty late (for me, anyway) when I wrote my reply, and it
looks like it was late when you wrote yours. So if Kit will forgive me and
I forgive you, all will be smoothed over. ;)

The initial post (sdf person) was general, but then after Richard gave
his list, someone wrote in (Roy) and asked for money play specifically. I
didn't look carefully and thought that sdf and Roy were the same person.
That's my excuse.

Anyone who has been reading this newsgroup for two weeks should have
seen my recommended reading list for BG in general, which includes BOTH
Kit's "How to Play Tournament BG" and Ortega and Kleinman's "Cubes and
Gammons at the end of the match", books which Richard included in his
reply to sdf.

Allow me to summarize and append, my opinion for:

1) Best books on money play cube:

a) Robertie's two volume "Advanced BG",
b) Kleinman's "Vision Laughs at Counting, with Advice to the Dicelorn".

2) Best books on match play cube:

a) Woolsey's "How to Play Tournament BG",
b) Ortega's and Kleinman's "Cubes and Gammons near the end of a match".

Since cube play early (= low score) in a match of moderate length is virtually
identical to money play, recommendation 1 is required reading even for
those (like myself) who concentrate on match play.

Peter Bell

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Aug 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/23/98
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James Eibisch wrote:

>
> Richard McIntosh <ram...@backgammon.org> of wrote:
>
> >Backgammon: Winning with the Doubling Cube (Bell, 1997)
>
> Some questions about Peter Bell's book which I always keep
> meaning to ask but always forget:


It's been many months since I checked in here in r.g.b., and an even
longer time since I posted, but I suppose I should do my part now that
I'm here :-)

>
> o Does it cover match play, money play, or both? If both, in
> what proportions?
>

Money play only. I began a separate book on match play, but writing a
reasonably complete but still understandable treatment of the subject is
non-trivial (i.e., really, really hard). I doubt I'll ever finish it,
at least not until I become independently wealthy.

> o His r.g.b. article on which I believe this book is based was
> clear and free of scary mathematics. Does the book hold the
> bg-literate-but-maths-dunce's hand, or does it assume you know
> what a sigmoidal lambda coefficient is? (Whatever one of those,
> if they exist, is.)
>

The mathematics are limited to pip counting and simple calculations of
winning percentage (e.g., 25% of 50% equals 12.5%). I had worked out
quite a bit of the mathematics behind the scenes, but left them out of
the book based on Robertie's (quite correct) recommendation, and just
presented the relevant results.

> o If you've read it, what do you think of it?
>

I've read it several times, and I like it :-) I'll let others make more
specific comments. By the way, just because I wrote it doesn't mean
that I know everything in it. I have to study it closely and re-read it
periodically, just like everyone else.

Thanks,

- Peter

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