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D. Byrd

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Jun 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/20/97
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Boycott Disney! Thanks.

Ari X

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Jun 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/20/97
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D. Byrd wrote:
>
> Boycott Disney! Thanks.

No thanks! Thanks.

I think this whole Southern Baptist boycott is insane. I mean, is being
gay wrong? Immoral? Anti-family? I certainly hope not. Just becuase
Disney tries to "blaze new frontiers" or whatever the hell their doing
doesn't mean squat. How about boycotting Southern Baptists for being
anti human and civil rights?
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Lewis M. Brooks, III

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Jun 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/20/97
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In article <33AA03...@def.com>, "D. Byrd" <bc...@def.com> writes:
> Boycott Disney! Thanks.

Sorry, I couldn't resist responding. The boycott is the most
ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. It's completely dumb.

Lewis


t

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Boycott Southern Baptists! Thanks.
(No on second thought... don't... let's not lower ourselves to their level)
P.S. I thought this was a Transformers Newsgroup

Ari X <Ar...@aol.com> wrote in article <33AA0D...@aol.com>...

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Ar> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 00:58:36 -0400
Ar> Subject: Re: Disney hates families
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Ar> From: Ari X <Ar...@aol.com>

Ar> D. Byrd wrote:
>
> Boycott Disney! Thanks.

Ar> No thanks! Thanks.

Ar> I think this whole Southern Baptist boycott is insane. I mean, is
Ar> being gay wrong? Immoral? Anti-family? I certainly hope not.
Just
Ar> becuase Disney tries to "blaze new frontiers" or whatever the hell
Ar> their doing doesn't mean squat. How about boycotting Southern
Baptists
Ar> for being anti human and civil rights?

Hear Hear! I'm tired of supposedly "open minded" groups that are "open
minded" as long as you are converting to their beliefs. These people
(the ones making the decision) are just nutty.


Koru

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Matthew "Matt" R. Rardon

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Jun 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/20/97
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D. Byrd wrote:
>
> Boycott Disney! Thanks.

Funny I thought the entire Baptist problem with Disney was that they
are upset that Disney is willing to embrace the 90's family (mainly the
gay family). I do not see the word religion or disney anywhere in the
name of this group so please take this elsewhere.

Regards,
Matt


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Firebird

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Jun 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/21/97
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He-Man wrote:
>
> Ari X <Ar...@aol.com> wrote in article <33AA0D...@aol.com>...
> > D. Byrd wrote:
> > I think this whole Southern Baptist boycott is insane. I mean, is being

> > gay wrong? Immoral? Anti-family? I certainly hope not.
>
> 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 NIV

The Wiccan Rede: An ye harm none, do as thou wilt.
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Blurr

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Jun 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/21/97
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Ari X wrote:
>
>
> If I had a copy of the New Testament in house (I'm jewish), I'd look
> this quote up. But since I don't, I'm gonna assume it's something that
> is either pro or anti gay. But my point is: why is what is written in
> the Bible (or the torah, or pretty much any religious text)
> aurtomatically right? I'm sorry, I know I'm off topic, but these
> people, the southern baptists who are boycotting I mean, really piss me
> off.

You're telling me!!!I live in a town that's mostly Southern Baptist.I'm Catholic,and
an Alter boy at that(noo the preist's never even thought about laying a hand on me),
and I don't belive in half of the stuff that the Catholics believe in.The Southern
Baptists down here are all the same,"Everything you think is right,is wrong.Don't
spend any of your hard earned money on the things you want to spend it on.Give all
of your money to us!!!".Now I'm not ttrying to start a religion war on ATT,I'm just
tiered of putting up with the Southern Baptist's BS rules and belifes,and am tired
of them trying to force them upon everyone else.You can't say I hate Southern Baptists
either,because my GF of 3 years is a Southern Baptist.


Anthony

Jonathan McDougall and/or Melissa Andrews

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Jun 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/22/97
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> Hear Hear! I'm tired of supposedly "open minded" groups that are "open
> minded" as long as you are converting to their beliefs. These people
> (the ones making the decision) are just nutty.

I think it's just good old-fashioned business sense for Disney. I mean,
who do you think would spend more money at a theme park? A flock of young
gay and lesbian activists, or a bunch of bible-thumping old farts?

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Jonathan McDougall
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Firebird

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Jun 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/22/97
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Nick Kelsch wrote:
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> No one would even know they were boycotting except the press makes a
> stinkola about everything. Let them Boycot. if they feel dDisney will
> destry their families, then they don't have to use anything disney. So
> be it. It is America, Fre country (last time I checked)

Thank you Nick!

Master C'Baoth

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Jun 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/22/97
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You know I find it tiresome that the "Church" must ALWAYS try dictate
prple's lives. It is none of their business what people do in th
eprivacy of their own homes. The "Church" needs to clean up its own
act before passing judgment on others.

Master C'Baoth

"D. Byrd" <bc...@def.com> wrote:

>Boycott Disney! Thanks.

The Nixtr

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Jun 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/22/97
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QUOTING: People use the Bible as a way to say something is wrong, Gayness
is wrong becasue the BIBLE says so, Abortion is wrong becasue the BIBLE
says so.

RESPONSE: No, abortion is wrong because it is MURDER. I don't know why
it's the PRO-aborts who always make it a religious issue.
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Anthony "Tonyfitz" Brucale

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Jun 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/22/97
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Millions of $$$ is pocket change to Disney....trust me, they're not
worried. Soon the baptists will tire and no one will even remember this...


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The Nixtr <then...@acy1.digex.net> wrote in article
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>
> QUOTING:
>
> I think it's just good old-fashioned business sense for Disney. I mean,
> who do you think would spend more money at a theme park? A flock of
young
> gay and lesbian activists, or a bunch of bible-thumping old farts?
>

> RESPONSE: Obviously not the gays, since Disney's already lost millions of
> dollars from the protest!

Nick Kelsch

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Jun 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/22/97
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The Nixtr wrote:
>
> QUOTING: People use the Bible as a way to say something is wrong, Gayness
> is wrong becasue the BIBLE says so, Abortion is wrong becasue the BIBLE
> says so.
>
> RESPONSE: No, abortion is wrong because it is MURDER. I don't know why

Oh, I mean The Bible says that Sacrafice of chirldren has always been
sacrafices to demon gods, Like Baal and asteroth (??), and has led to
the fall of empires, and Is wquoteted as wrong Over and Over in the
Bible.
Abortion is bassiccly sacrafice of your first born (most of the time)

Now Just because I have read the bile doesn't make me a religous
fanatic, so don't boycott me :P

Lewis M. Brooks, III

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Jun 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/22/97
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In article <01bc7f1d$dbdcefc0$3d31...@262150725worldnet.att.net>, "Anthony \"Tonyfitz\" Brucale" <Tony...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
> Millions of $$$ is pocket change to Disney....trust me, they're not
> worried. Soon the baptists will tire and no one will even remember this...

Not to mention a lot of Baptists will probably ignore the boycott anyway. I'm
guessing it would kind of difficult to explain to a little kid that they can't
watch the Little Mermaid.

Lewis

P.S. - Sorry to continue this thread.

Blurr

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Jun 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/22/97
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Lewis M. Brooks, III wrote:
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> Not to mention a lot of Baptists will probably ignore the boycott anyway. I'm
> guessing it would kind of difficult to explain to a little kid that they can't
> watch the Little Mermaid.

I hate to have to keep dragging this thread on,but you're right.My GF is
in the same
High School.Our band has been invited to perform at Disney world next
year.My GF
Rachael is not planning on staying home,nor are any of the other
Baptists in our
school.

Let's kill this thread now

Anthony

The Nixtr

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Jun 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/22/97
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QUOTING:

A person has every right to wear anything they like provided it is not
inappropriate. Again, defining appropriate is the problem. I have no
idea what was being worn, but I have a hard time believing that they would
have been allowed into the park if it really was inappropriate.


RESPONSE: I don't have a hard time believing it.


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The Nixtr

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Jun 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/22/97
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QUOTING:

Millions of $$$ is pocket change to Disney....trust me, they're not
worried. Soon the baptists will tire and no one will even remember this...

RESPONSE: Millions of $$$ a day does bother them. (Euro-disney bothered
them, and that was $1 million a day). And sorry for your poor memory, but
I will remember, as I hadn't bought anything from those anti-Catholic
bigots since 1995.

Lewis M. Brooks, III

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Jun 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/22/97
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> I see No one actually uderstands What happened to satrt this. A man, In
> the military, had a week off, So he too his family to Disney world,
> Little kids, When He got there, He was greeted byLots of people wear ing
> gay Activits shirts, Pictures of men kissing* , Other inapropriate
> items.

Define inapropriate? One person's appropriate is another person's
inapropriate. I seriously doubt they were wearing anything that would have
been truly inappropriate.

> He asked for his money back because it was Gay daym, and him and
> his family were not gay. They said no. There fore a boycott came out of
> it.

Hmmm. So, his family was the only non-gay family that went to Disney World
that day? I seriously doubt that.


> Now, The fact is, If it was gay day, and people went as Human Beings
> Instead of "lets make a gay statement and wear our activist stuff" There
> would have been NO promlem. But they didn't.

A person has every right to wear anything they like provided it is not
inappropriate. Again, defining appropriate is the problem. I have no idea
what was being worn, but I have a hard time believing that they would have been
allowed into the park if it really was inappropriate.

Lewis

Blurr

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Jun 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/22/97
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I've discovered a way to make this thread more TF like in a little ATT skit that
I wrote


Southern Baptists : We're going to Boycott you for something stupid that you had no
control over and it's taking away our christian values.

Disney Representative Blurr : OhhNoOhhNoOhhNoWithOutTheSouthernBaptistsThereIsNoHope
NoHopeNoHopeAtAll1!!!!!!!!

Southern Baptists : Ok,so the Boycott isn't working....LET'S RAID DESTROY DISNEY
WORLD!!!!!!

Disney Representative Blurr : WeHaveBaptistsOnTheWallWeHaveBaptistsInTheAirIfWeShoot
ThemOffTheWallThenThey'ReStillInTheAirAndIfWeShootThem
OutOfTheAirThey'ReStillonTheWallSoWhereDoesThatLeaveUs
NoWhereThat'sWhere!!!!!!

Southern Baptists : They're Defences are broken,Let the Slaughter Begin!!!!!

Disney CEO jet flies overhead

Disney CEO Optimus Prime : The Baptists must be stopped...no matter the cost.

Southern Baptists : (ugh) (owww) (boom) (splat)

Disney CEO Optimus Prime : Let this mark the day of a new age of peace and happiness
Till all are won!!!!!!

Well,what do you think?


Anthony

Nick Kelsch

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Jun 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/22/97
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Hehe, But you know, Disney can take just about anything. the Big ball at
epcot centre is really a giant transformer which will protect the earth
from Alien invasion.

All these years, the goverment has been funding disneyworld, as an
undergroud military traning and genetic engineering.

Mickey mouse, is not a costume! And he has the strength of 20 men, and
If the earth is ever threatend, THEY will be the last line of defense!

So think about going to disney world an investment in your own future,
more money they make, More weapons and giant genetic creatures they will
make to protect the earth.

Ari X

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Jun 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/22/97
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The Nixtr wrote:

>
> QUOTING:
> I'm sorry, I know I'm off topic, but these people, the southern baptists
> who are boycotting I mean, really piss me off.
>
> RESONSE: then why don't you boycott them. I'm sick of Disney myself.
I guess I could, 'cepting that my father is a converted Southern
Baptist. So maybe I should boycott half my heritage, eh? Oh, and I
just want to say that I own 20 shares of Disney stock, but that doesn't
factor in to this argument at all. ;)

Ari X

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Jun 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/22/97
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Nick Kelsch wrote:
>
> >
> > The people who go to gay day at Disneyland don't have sex out on the rides. Just cause
> > someone's gay doesn't mean that all they think about is gay sex.
>
> Then Why Have Gay day? If they arn't about sex, then they are Human just
> like everyone elose and can go 365 day s a year Like everyone else.

Wow! I thought _I_ was the only person that went to Disney world every
day of the year! ;)
>
> Gay ANd Strait are still Sexual Prefrences. (last time I checked)
Now, I just thought of this....you know how when your little, and you
ask your parents "If there's a Mother's Day and a Father's Day, why
isn't there a kids day?" And your parents reply "Every day is kids
day!" Now, this may not make much sense (even to me), but isn't every
day Straight day, you know what I mean? Personally, I think the whole
Gay Day thing was an incredibly stupid idea, but I don't think Disney
would have let them in with Men kissing Men T-Shirts.

CARL CAGAN

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Jun 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/22/97
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Jonathan McDougall and/or Melissa Andrews wrote:
>
> In article <5oj06e$n...@acy1.digex.net>, then...@acy1.digex.net (The Nixtr)

> wrote:
>
> > QUOTING:
> >
> > I think it's just good old-fashioned business sense for Disney. I mean,
> > who do you think would spend more money at a theme park? A flock of young
> > gay and lesbian activists, or a bunch of bible-thumping old farts?
> >
> > RESPONSE: Obviously not the gays, since Disney's already lost millions of
> > dollars from the protest!
>
> I think you're exaggerating. Besides, whatever the numbers are, a Southern
> Baptist boycott would be nothing compared to a full-scale homosexual
> boycott.
>
> Remember that most gays aren't very public about their sexuality (and with
> people like the Southern Baptists, it's no wonder).
>
> -It's time we end this thread now. This is hardly the appropriate place for this nonsence. If you guys have to continue this discussion do it through your e-mails. I just needed to say this.
Irwin C.

Nick Kelsch

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Jun 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/22/97
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> >
> > Gay ANd Strait are still Sexual Prefrences. (last time I checked)
> Now, I just thought of this....you know how when your little, and you
> ask your parents "If there's a Mother's Day and a Father's Day, why
> isn't there a kids day?" And your parents reply "Every day is kids
> day!" Now, this may not make much sense (even to me), but isn't every
> day Straight day, you know what I mean? Personally, I think the whole
> Gay Day thing was an incredibly stupid idea, but I don't think Disney
> would have let them in with Men kissing Men T-Shirts.

I got introuble for wearing a Whoop-ass tee shirt in Kings dominion

Robert Zalkind

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Jun 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/23/97
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The Nixtr wrote:

>
> QUOTING:
>
> A person has every right to wear anything they like provided it is not
> inappropriate. Again, defining appropriate is the problem. I have no
> idea what was being worn, but I have a hard time believing that they would
> have been allowed into the park if it really was inappropriate.
>
> RESPONSE: I don't have a hard time believing it.

Well, you should. At any other amusement park, I'd agree with
you in that they don't really care so long as you pay money, but
Disneyland isn't like that at all. They fired the captain of their
steamship because he wouldn't shave his moustache (only Walt was
permitted a moustache), they wouldn't let my uncle in in the 70's
because he had long hair. They deliberately keep their prices high
so that they attract only the kind of people they want to serve -
upper middle class. All of this isn't to say that I don't love
Disneyland, I do. But Disneyland is one of the most controlled
environments on earth. If you want to know what Big Brother in
action would be like, just go. Disney's intrusion is not very
visible, but it is present. They have cameras EVERYWHERE. Once
someone dropped a red dye pellet into the water in the "Pirates
of the Carribean" ride and Disney found that person on tape and
kicked him out of the park. Magic Mountain, Knotts Berry Farm,
Kings Dominion, Busch Garden, Six Flags? Virtually anything goes -
their prices are lower and they just cram as many people into the park
as possible. If Disneyland had comparable prices, though, the park
would be even more crowded than it already is and it wouldn't
be as family friendly as it is because lower prices would attract
the "wrong" kind of crowd. So while Disneyland could certainly
no longer not allow people into the park based on what length
hair they had, they would have no problem excluding anyone for
excessive lascivious behavior or any near-offensive T-shirts.

-Wolfang
dl...@erols.com

Anthony "Tonyfitz" Brucale

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The Nixtr <then...@acy1.digex.net> wrote in article

<5okac7$2...@acy1.digex.net>...
>
> QUOTING:Millions of $$$ a day does bother them. (Euro-disney bothered


> them, and that was $1 million a day). And sorry for your poor memory,
but
> I will remember, as I hadn't bought anything from those anti-Catholic
> bigots since 1995.
> --

Personally, I'm Catholic and I never gave a fuck. So they support
gays....BFD....and Southern Baptists aren't their target crowd, tourists
are, and tourists will never stop going to WDW...and that's a FACT.

Anthony "Tonyfitz" Brucale

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The Nixtr <then...@acy1.digex.net> wrote in article

<5oka35$2...@acy1.digex.net>...


>
> QUOTING:
>
> A person has every right to wear anything they like provided it is not
> inappropriate. Again, defining appropriate is the problem. I have no
> idea what was being worn, but I have a hard time believing that they
would
> have been allowed into the park if it really was inappropriate.
>
>
> RESPONSE: I don't have a hard time believing it.

> --
Who cares, there's no dress code for WDW. I wore a Slayer shirt to WDW with
a a demon on it, "Slayer" written in Blood red and a pentagram on it, you
think i gave a shit? Pretend offensive things are like ugly people, if you
don't like what you see....then look the fuck away!


Nick Kelsch

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Jun 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/23/97
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> Remember that most gays aren't very public about their sexuality (and with
> people like the Southern Baptists, it's no wonder).

Why should anyone be Public with their sexuality. My boss has no reason
to know my prefrence. People I work with do not need to know, My
Teachers Do not need to know. They Don't need to know what my prefrence
is. I could like barnyard animals and it doesn't matter to them. If I
went around telling everyone I was straight, no one would care.

The Nixtr

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Jun 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/23/97
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QUOTING:
I will remember, as I hadn't bought anything from those anti-Catholic >
bigots since 1995.

Your loss.

Lewis

RESPONSE: Not my loss. They're not paying me, and I'm no unhappier.

Nick Kelsch

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Jun 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/23/97
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> RESPONSE: Not my loss. They're not paying me, and I'm no unhappier.

I don't like disney either, But I do Like the muppets, and they bought
them :( I think they killed jim henson so they could buy the muppets.
Mabey they will buy the transformers and make a cool CGI movie like they
did with Toy story(which sucked but was cool technology)

Jonathan McDougall and/or Melissa Andrews

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Jun 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/23/97
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> What the hell is this crap doing on ATT!! I don't think TF's bear their
> live children!!! Please go somewhere else with this one!!

That presents an interesting concept . . . could you imagine Blackarachnia
in the delivery room? Would she bear a live child, or would she lay spider
eggs?

The mind boggles . . .

Nick Kelsch

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Jun 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/23/97
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>
> That presents an interesting concept . . . could you imagine Blackarachnia
> in the delivery room? Would she bear a live child, or would she lay spider
> eggs?

Now, Do the Beast wars Tfs have all the internal organs of the beast or
are they just coverend in a beast outer layer? Black Arachnia could have
little cyborg spiders and stuff :P

...m...

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Jun 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/23/97
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ROTFL!

[wipes tears from eyes]...i'm sorry, i'm generally against using quotes
in my sig, but this one's so classic that i just *have* to!..

--

...m...

"The Baptists must be stopped...no matter the cost."

-Disney CEO Optimus Prime

Blurr

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LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AWESOME!!! I'm glad someone liked my mini
Fanfic. ;)


Anthony

VictoryShot

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Jun 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/23/97
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The Nixtr wrote:
>
> QUOTING:
>
> I think it's just good old-fashioned business sense for Disney. I mean,
> who do you think would spend more money at a theme park? A flock of young
> gay and lesbian activists, or a bunch of bible-thumping old farts?
>
> RESPONSE: Obviously not the gays, since Disney's already lost millions of
> dollars from the protest!
> --
> The Nixtr *** Transformer Fan *** ROGER DODGER! *** ":> = Dittohead smiley
> IN THE NEWS: Nat'l Organization of Women campaigns for POST-birth abortion
> >>> VISIT MY WEB PAGE: *** http://www.acy.digex.net/~thenixtr <<<
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Oh I'm so sure that it has not been millions. This will blow over
shortly and it won't even make the Disney Executives blink.

VictoryShot

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Jun 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/23/97
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The Nixtr wrote:
>
> QUOTING:
>
> Millions of $$$ is pocket change to Disney....trust me, they're not
> worried. Soon the baptists will tire and no one will even remember this...
>
> RESPONSE: Millions of $$$ a day does bother them. (Euro-disney bothered

> them, and that was $1 million a day). And sorry for your poor memory, but
> I will remember, as I hadn't bought anything from those anti-Catholic
> bigots since 1995.

"Anti-Catholic bigots", where the hell do you get that??? And I doubt
you can avoid their influence as much as that, I mean I'm guessing that
you still watch ABC, or maybe many of the shows on other networks that
they have some involvement, or the number of non-Disney movies that they
either work on or release. You can't escape them why even try.

And I haven't seen anything else like what you're saying. They are not
going to lose that much money nor have they even really started to lose
that much money. May be a few bucks here and there but that's it. A
Millions-of-dollars a day my ass.

VictoryShot

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Nick Kelsch wrote:
>
> >
> > The people who go to gay day at Disneyland don't have sex out on the rides. Just > >cause someone's gay doesn't mean that all they think about is gay sex.
>
> Then Why Have Gay day? If they arn't about sex, then they are Human just
> like everyone else and can go 365 day s a year Like everyone else.
What the hell was that??? I'm sorry I don't see a point of view in
that sentence.

>
> Gay ANd Strait(sic) are still Sexual Prefrences. (last time I checked)

But they aren't having sex in public nor do they think about or have sex
all the time. Sounds like everyone I know, both the gay and striaght
friends I have.

Dan McCollum

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Blurr <bl...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>I've discovered a way to make this thread more TF like in a little ATT skit that
>I wrote
>
>
>Southern Baptists : We're going to Boycott you for something stupid that you had no
> control over and it's taking away our christian values.
>
>Disney Representative Blurr : OhhNoOhhNoOhhNoWithOutTheSouthernBaptistsThereIsNoHope
> NoHopeNoHopeAtAll1!!!!!!!!
>
>Southern Baptists : Ok,so the Boycott isn't working....LET'S RAID DESTROY DISNEY
> WORLD!!!!!!
>
>Disney Representative Blurr : WeHaveBaptistsOnTheWallWeHaveBaptistsInTheAirIfWeShoot
> ThemOffTheWallThenThey'ReStillInTheAirAndIfWeShootThem
> OutOfTheAirThey'ReStillonTheWallSoWhereDoesThatLeaveUs
> NoWhereThat'sWhere!!!!!!
>
>Southern Baptists : They're Defences are broken,Let the Slaughter Begin!!!!!
>
>Disney CEO jet flies overhead
>
>Disney CEO Optimus Prime : The Baptists must be stopped...no matter the cost.
>
>Southern Baptists : (ugh) (owww) (boom) (splat)
>
>Disney CEO Optimus Prime : Let this mark the day of a new age of peace and happiness
> Till all are won!!!!!!
>
>
>
>Well,what do you think?
>
>
>Anthony


WEll ok ,I know I coudl be called religion descriminating for saying this
but, THAT WAS HILARIOUS!


Dan McCollum

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Jun 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/23/97
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First sex, than disney and now this WHY do these people keep posting on
here, YOu know well the disney was stupid, the sex ones well they HAVe
newsgroups to fidn that kidna stuff a few thousand last I checked and
this, hell we cna watch the NEWS or look it up on the web for a debate on
this.

>
>What the hell is this crap doing on ATT!! I don't think TF's bear their
>live children!!! Please go somewhere else with this one!!
>

>--Stabone
>
>On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Nick Kelsch wrote:
>
>> >
>> > 1. There is always going to be some instance where a woman _should_ have
>> > the right to an abortion. It could be that the woman was raped, it could
>> > be that the baby poses a grave health risk to the woman, whatever.
>> >
>>
>> If That was the only case for abortion, You would rarely see it. it is
>> used as birth control for the ingnorant and lazy who won't use condomns,
>> the pill, or even practice safe sex!
>>
>> If people were resposible in their own personal dealings, there would be
>> no reason for abortion.
>>
>>
>

Eric Harding

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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In article <5okac7$2...@acy1.digex.net>, then...@acy1.digex.net (The Nixtr) wrote:
>
>QUOTING:
>
>Millions of $$$ is pocket change to Disney....trust me, they're not
>worried. Soon the baptists will tire and no one will even remember this...
>
>RESPONSE: Millions of $$$ a day does bother them. (Euro-disney bothered
>them, and that was $1 million a day). And sorry for your poor memory, but
>I will remember, as I hadn't bought anything from those anti-Catholic
>bigots since 1995.


But that is your choice. Just like its my choice not to buy anything from
religious bigots.

Eric

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Eric Harding

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Simple. Ever kiss your girlfriend in public? Hug her? Hold her hand? Then
you are advertising your sexualality. Why should anyone care what anyone
does to anyone who is consenting anyways? This is 1997, not 1897. In most
other countries in the world people don't care. Maybe it's time for the US to
grow up some.

Nick Kelsch

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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> Simple. Ever kiss your girlfriend in public? Hug her? Hold her hand? Then
> you are advertising your sexualality. Why should anyone care what anyone
> does to anyone who is consenting anyways? This is 1997, not 1897. In most
> other countries in the world people don't care. Maybe it's time for the US to
> grow up some.

Exactly! (now I am gonna get E-mail from someone saying "don't
contribute :P)

Nick Kelsch

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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VictoryShot wrote:
>
> Nick Kelsch wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > 1. There is always going to be some instance where a woman _should_ have
> > > the right to an abortion. It could be that the woman was raped, it could
> > > be that the baby poses a grave health risk to the woman, whatever.
> > >
> >
> > If That was the only case for abortion, You would rarely see it. it is
> > used as birth control for the ingnorant and lazy who won't use condomns,
> > the pill, or even {try to} practice safe sex!

> >
> > If people were resposible in their own personal dealings, there would be
> > no reason for abortion.
>
> Well that's most certainly not true. Haven't you ever heard of
> accidents even after procautions, or Women who are raped. Are you
> blaiming these people also? I know that some low-income, poorly
> educated people do use this as a very stupid form of birth control but
> the rest of those who would chose not to have a baby can not necessarily
> be blamed. It is never as simple as that.

Oh whoops, Well I was saying for those who USE it as birth control,
Other cases are different and they had no control (like rape)

Nick Kelsch

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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> But they aren't having sex in public nor do they think about or have sex
> all the time. Sounds like everyone I know, both the gay and striaght
> friends I have.

Right, so if they are not having sex, then they are the same as everyone
else. They are just men, or just women. Therefore they can ride a disney
ride as A regular person, Not as a gay or straight person.

Nick Kelsch

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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How Come My name keeps hgettign quoted on stuff I didn't post, Someone
will reply to me, then someone will reply to them and their reply will
have MY name on it.

Can people please copy quotes better?

The Nixtr

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QUOTING: "Anti-Catholic bigots", where the hell do you get that??? And I


doubt you can avoid their influence as much as that, I mean I'm guessing
that you still watch ABC, or maybe many of the shows on other networks
that they have some involvement, or the number of non-Disney movies that
they either work on or release. You can't escape them why even try.

RESPONSE: I get it from the movie "priest" which a real priest Iknew saw
and reported the large amount of anti-Catholic sentiment.

And guess what? I haven't watched ABC in years! You guessed wrong
there. In fact, I rarely watch television at all, but ABC tv sucks the
big one anyways, so not watching their netwerk is easy. And the same goes
for their "franchise" movies. Since when has Mirimax, f'instance,
produced anything worth watching???


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John Forbus

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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The Nixtr wrote:
>
> QUOTING: People use the Bible as a way to say something is wrong, Gayness
> is wrong becasue the BIBLE says so, Abortion is wrong becasue the BIBLE
> says so.
>
> RESPONSE: No, abortion is wrong because it is MURDER. I don't know why
> it's the PRO-aborts who always make it a religious issue.
> --
> The Nixtr

Can an arm survive on its own without the rest of the body? No.
Therefore, cutting off an arm does not "murder" the arm. It's the same
thing with abortion. A three-to-six-month fetus cannot survive on its
own without the mother, so aborting the pregnancy isn't murder.

There ya go, Nixtr. A pro-choice argument with absolutely no basis in
religion. :)

(For the record, I personally think abortion is wrong, but the
**choice** is a right every woman has. Which is really what my whole
platform comes don to: choice. I get really mad when anti-choice
advocates try to use nomenclature to give their platform a
high-and-mighty appearance. "We're pro-life, but they're _ANTI_-life."
Horse crap.)

ObTF: A friend picked up Lazorbeak for me this weekend. It's really
pretty cool! I'm not sure which one I like better, LB or Terrorsaur.
The color scheme is actually very nice. I wish they'd used a third
color on him like on TS, though. Now if only the gestalts would show
up....

John
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PFunkPearl

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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Look First off this is a TF Newsgroup!!....but it is time for me agian to
educate the masses...
Abortion-some say that it should be used when the mother's life is in
danger...well doctors usually can't tell this until late in the
pregnency..almost too late for abortion anyway...as for rape...well a baby
concieved in rape is still a baby...it is still a life to all you
pro-lifers...so right there you contridict yourself....religion and
politics need to stay outta the bedroom....it's a women's body it's her
choice..a baby can not live with out the mother for the first 6
monthes...if it is wanted why should she be forced to raise it...if
abortino wasn't a chioce we'd have more neglect and more crime...so get
off your high horses...and stayout of others business...


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NeoTrent

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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What does this have to do with anything Transformers? other than Nixtr
transforming into an obnoxious off-topic self-righteous putz. Keep it out
of this newsgroup people!

-Trent

He-Man

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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Tim Gross <timg...@mail.jetlink.net> wrote in article
<33AD40...@mail.jetlink.net>...
> The way i look at it. if you start Boycoting one thing you will end up
> like the Amish, unable to brogress in the world.

It's not that they can't progress, they just want to stick with the old
ways, and not get involved with the outside world. There's nothing wrong
with being traditional, and I admire them for that. Besides, I've been to
amusement parks like Kennywood and Cedar Point, and I've seen plenty of
Amish folks there. So they're not all that boring.

BK


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Wisdom6724

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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It is a little known fact that there was a sub group of decepticons called
the Aborticons, but the concept was so evil it wasn't allowed on the TV
show, in the comic book,or as a toy. Sounds absurd doesn't it, Well its
not as absurd as talking about abortion in a newsgroup that is decdicated
to a line of toys!!!!!!!!

Jonathan McDougall and/or Melissa Andrews

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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> I don't like disney either, But I do Like the muppets, and they bought
> them :( I think they killed jim henson so they could buy the muppets.
> Mabey they will buy the transformers and make a cool CGI movie like they
> did with Toy story(which sucked but was cool technology)

Actually the Muppet sell-off to Disney was initiated before Jim Henson's death.

John ''SNAP!!!MAN'' Thorpe

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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Blurr wrote:
>
> I've discovered a way to make this thread more TF like in a little ATT skit that
> I wrote
>
> Southern Baptists : We're going to Boycott you for something stupid that you had no
> control over and it's taking away our christian values.
>
> Disney Representative Blurr : OhhNoOhhNoOhhNoWithOutTheSouthernBaptistsThereIsNoHope
> NoHopeNoHopeAtAll1!!!!!!!!
>
> Southern Baptists : Ok,so the Boycott isn't working....LET'S RAID DESTROY DISNEY
> WORLD!!!!!!
>
> Disney Representative Blurr : WeHaveBaptistsOnTheWallWeHaveBaptistsInTheAirIfWeShoot
> ThemOffTheWallThenThey'ReStillInTheAirAndIfWeShootThem
> OutOfTheAirThey'ReStillonTheWallSoWhereDoesThatLeaveUs
> NoWhereThat'sWhere!!!!!!
>
> Southern Baptists : They're Defences are broken,Let the Slaughter Begin!!!!!
>
> Disney CEO jet flies overhead
>
> Disney CEO Optimus Prime : The Baptists must be stopped...no matter the cost.
>
> Southern Baptists : (ugh) (owww) (boom) (splat)
>
> Disney CEO Optimus Prime : Let this mark the day of a new age of peace and happiness
> Till all are won!!!!!!
>
> Well,what do you think?
>
> Anthony

You forgot to include Rush Limbaugh as the big fat planet who eats
everything in its path.
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Nick Kelsch

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> What??!! You hated Toy Story???!!!! You, you....you Generation Xer!!!!

No, I am younger than Generation X, But Older than the bastard chilrdren
of Saturday Nigth live generation, Go Fig.

DaFis...@worldnet.att.net

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STEVEN ACEVEDO

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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TN>QUOTING:

TN>Well, you should. At any other amusement park, I'd agree with you in that
TN>they don't really care so long as you pay money, but
TN>Disneyland isn't like that at all.

TN>RESPONSE: No, the whole boycott was started because Dizzney only cared
TN>about the man and his family's money. They didn't care that he didn't
TN>enjoy himself and was offended.

I find this whole thing to be so stupid really. The Southern Bapists
boycotting Disney won't do a thing. One of the things about Religion
is how converts use The Bible as a defense for anything and
everything.

The Bible is a good thing sometimes but not when the words in the
scriptures are peverted for someone else's agendas.

OK. I'll shut up now. Now can we get back to talking TFs, please?
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Blurr

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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John ''SNAP!!!MAN'' Thorpe wrote:
>
> You forgot to include Rush Limbaugh as the big fat planet who eats
> everything in its path.


Disney CEO Optimus PRime : By the Matrix,what is that thing

Limbricon : Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!!!!!I am Limbricon,true king of all Media.I will aid the
Southern Baptists in their quest to destroy the biggest media hog of all,
Disney!!!!!!!!!!!

(shoots a beam at Disney CEO Optimus Prime)

Disney CEO Optimus Prime : Ugghhhhhh.......Disney Vice President of Security Ultra
Magnus,it is to you old friend,that I shall pass the
Mouse ears of Leadership,as they were once passed to me.

Disney NP of Security Ultra Magnus : Prime,I'm only a security gaurd,I'm not worthy

Disney CEO Optimus Prime : Nor Was I,but one day,a Disney Rep will rise from Our Ranks
,and use the power of the Mouse Ears..to light our darkest
hour.

Prime hands Ultra Magnus the Mouse Ears,but drops them.Prime Dies!!!

Disney Head of Merchandising HotRod,picks up the Mouse ears

Disney CEO Optimus Prime : Arise Disney CEO Rodimus Prime

Disney head of Merchandising Hotrod is changed into Disney CEO Rodimus Prime

Disney CEO Rodimus Prime : Now Light our Darkest Hour!!!(places the Mouse ears on his
head)

All of a sudden,the whole world is black,no light,no sound.Except for a faint noise
that gradually gets louder until a Bright Spot Light Shines on Rodimus

Disney CEO Rodimus Prime : OK BOYS AND GIRLS,IT'S TIME FOR THE MICKEY MOUSE SHOW!!!!
Here are our Autobotcateers!! Ultra Magnus,Arcee,Sprinnger
WreckGar,BumbleeBee,BlurrBlurrBlurr

Limbricon : AHHHHH NOOO NOTT THAT!!!!!!!!!!! Destiny..You Cannot.......Destroy.....
My.................Destinyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy


_____________ _______________ _______________ _____ _____
| | | | | | | | | |
| ____ | | _______ | | _______ | | \ / |
| | / / | | | | | | | | | \ / |
| |__/ / | | | | | | | | | |\ \/ /| |
| ______ \ | | | | | | | | | | \ / | |
| | \ \ | | | | | | | | | | \ / | |
| |_____/ / | |_____| | | |_____| | | | \/ | |
|_________/ |_____________| |_____________| |__| |__|


Disney CEO Rodimus Prime : Let us march forward to a new age of money sucking and
Greed!!!!!! Till all are ours!!!!!!!!

Disney Staff : Till All Are OURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LMK what you guys think ;)

Anthony

Dan McCollum

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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then...@acy1.digex.net (The Nixtr) wrote:
>
>QUOTING:
>
>Well, you should. At any other amusement park, I'd agree with you in that
>they don't really care so long as you pay money, but
>Disneyland isn't like that at all.
>
>RESPONSE: No, the whole boycott was started because Dizzney only cared
>about the man and his family's money. They didn't care that he didn't
>enjoy himself and was offended.
>--

Really I got the feeling the boycot was caused by the boycotters
intolerance for others that are differant from them. Also I can see why
Disney didn't give the money back. If they had, suddenly EVERYONE who
didn't enjoy them selves for one reason or another woudl be .asking for
their money back, and it woudl ahve gotten really ridiculious, well more
so than it ALREADY is. I'm startign to dout if this man even existe,d if
he did I cna sympathise with him, but you people are makeing a mountain
out of a mole hill


Dan McCollum

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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Nick Kelsch <nke...@capaccess.org> wrote:
>>
>> That presents an interesting concept . . . could you imagine Blackarachnia
>> in the delivery room? Would she bear a live child, or would she lay spider
>> eggs?
>
>Now, Do the Beast wars Tfs have all the internal organs of the beast or
>are they just coverend in a beast outer layer? Black Arachnia could have
>little cyborg spiders and stuff :P


We talked about this on a MUSH once, and I belive we said she woudl
have a protofrom :) I congratulate everyone on trying ot make this in
topic :)


He-Man

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Jun 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/25/97
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The Nixtr <then...@acy1.digex.net> wrote in article
<5oo7te$4...@acy1.digex.net>...

>Since when has Mirimax, f'instance, produced anything worth watching???

Pulp Fiction, Clerks, and Kids, sort of.

Gameover 9

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Jun 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/25/97
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The fact of the matter is that Disney DOES NOT hate families, it's that
Disney DOES love money. And they think by doing this whole gay-day
BS that they're going to make $$$ from homosexuals. They've taken
that old idea of "having something for the whole family" to the extreme
IMHO. They left out the fact that hundreds of thousands of people, the
families that they are supposed to be caturing to, are now going to be
avoiding Disney attractions at all cost. Even if they aren't southern bap-
tist, or not even religious at all, parents don't want to expose their
small
children to that type of perversion due to most parents would prefer their
offspring to grow up straight.
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Lewis M. Brooks, III

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Jun 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/25/97
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>>RESPONSE: No, the whole boycott was started because Dizzney only cared
>>about the man and his family's money. They didn't care that he didn't
>>enjoy himself and was offended.
>
> Really I got the feeling the boycot was caused by the boycotters
> intolerance for others that are differant from them.

It was, and as Nixtr like to point out, that's a FACT.

> Also I can see why
> Disney didn't give the money back. If they had, suddenly EVERYONE who
> didn't enjoy them selves for one reason or another woudl be .asking for
> their money back, and it woudl ahve gotten really ridiculious,

I agree

As I understand it, Disney was not involved with Gay Day, it was
privately organized. If that's the case, then what was Disney supposed to do?
Not allow people in the park because they are gay? That would have got them
some law suits.

Lewis

Blurr

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Jun 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/25/97
to Gameover 9

Gameover 9 wrote:
>
> The fact of the matter is that Disney DOES NOT hate families, it's that
> Disney DOES love money. And they think by doing this whole gay-day
> BS that they're going to make $$$ from homosexuals.

Actually Disney had nothing to do with "Gay Day".It was planned by a large group of
Gays,that they would all go to Disney World one that Day.This was done without Disney's
Knowledge.What could Disney do,say "You can't come in because you're Gay" and get
sued for everything they're worth??


Anthony

FK Source

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Jun 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/25/97
to The Nixtr

The Nixtr wrote:

> QUOTING: It has nothing to do with religion or politics. And I won't get
> into any further debate over the myth that an unborn baby is part of a
> woman's body. There is no point; I could give overwhelming proof that a
> baby is a unique individual, but people still deny the fact that an unborn
> child is an individual human being. Besides, this is cluttering the
> newsgroup, I want to discuss TF's again.
> --

RESPONSE:

No, you can't give "overwhelming Proof" on anything that you are
saying. You have a
point of view that you won't come away from, even enough so that you
could see the
other side of it. Much like your "discrimantion" against Disney. You
should really use this wonderful world of computers to go and get some
real facts.

"...but people still deny the fact that an unborn child is an individual
human being."

I suppose that you're not aware of the fact that it is not *even* a
child yet, unborn or otherwise. It isn't even a fetus, when an abortion
is typically performed it is only a cluster of cells that hasn't even
taken the shape of anything. This is nowhere near being a life much
less a child. It is much like a symbiotic bacteria which is feeding off
of a woman so that it can grow bigger and reproduce a similar bacteria.
So what if that bacteria will maybe, possibly become a human being
someday, at this early stage it is only just what it is, a combination
of waste which two people have expelled. Being only just that these two
people have the right to dispose of it so it won't leech off of them and
others later.


FK Source

Master C'Baoth

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
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Just a side note:

Have any of yo REALLY looked at the cover of the Little Mermaid Movie?
Tell me what you think...

Master C'Baoth


BROO...@rhea.bentley.edu (Lewis M. Brooks, III) wrote:

>In article <01bc7f1d$dbdcefc0$3d31...@262150725worldnet.att.net>, "Anthony \"Tonyfitz\" Brucale" <Tony...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>> Millions of $$$ is pocket change to Disney....trust me, they're not
>> worried. Soon the baptists will tire and no one will even remember this...
>

>Not to mention a lot of Baptists will probably ignore the boycott anyway. I'm
>guessing it would kind of difficult to explain to a little kid that they can't
>watch the Little Mermaid.

>Lewis

>P.S. - Sorry to continue this thread.

Gameover 9

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
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>You know I find it tiresome that the "Church" must ALWAYS try dictate
>prple's lives. It is none of their business what people do in th
>eprivacy of their own homes. The "Church" needs to clean up its own
>act before passing judgment on others.

The "Church's" act IS clean.

Gameover 9

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
to

>Just a side note:

>Have any of yo REALLY looked at the cover of the Little Mermaid Movie?
>Tell me what you think...

>Master C'Baoth

Not to mention the word "sex" written in the dirt on the LION KING and
the hiden lymeric in ALADIN.

Again, please put this to rest before we all get reported for off-topic
posts.

Gameover 9

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
to

>Actually Disney had nothing to do with "Gay Day".It was planned by a
large >group of
>Gays,that they would all go to Disney World one that Day.This was done
>without Disney's
>Knowledge.What could Disney do,say "You can't come in because you're Gay"
>and get
>sued for everything they're worth??

NEWSFLASH: Disney owns PRIVATE PROPERTY, and while it could get
sued for not hiring someone to work there because they were gay, that does

NOT mean they could be sued for simply not allowing someone into their
park. What they should do is establish a set of rules for people to go by
while
in the park. It could say "Men cannot kiss men while in park areas..." and
so
forth. It may sound silly, but they could not get sued for this, PERIOD.

Now let's PLEASE forget about this and use this NG for what it's supposed
to be.

david snyder

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Is Skorponok hard to find in anyone else's area? I live in Miami and
have yet to be able to find one..

Anthony "Tonyfitz" Brucale

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>
> NEWSFLASH: Disney owns PRIVATE PROPERTY, and while it could get
> sued for not hiring someone to work there because they were gay, that
does
>
> NOT mean they could be sued for simply not allowing someone into their
> park.

NEWS UPDATE:YES THEY CAN!!!!!!! Its called...stay with me
here....DISCRIMINATION...its the same priciple if they wouldn't let blacks
or women into the park...and just to make this a TF related idea....what if
they wouldn't let one of us into the park for wearing a shirt with a
Decpticon logo b/c it represents a competitors toy line and the faction
belonging to the logo represents things that Disney doesn't (ie-Death and
destruction)....by selling a ticket the buyer and seller enter into a
contract....so if a gay couple pays their $$ to get into the park Disney
must abide by their end of the deal...Last time I checked I didn't see a
sign at the enterance to Main Street USA saying, "All Hope Abandoned, Ye
Fags and Dykes Who Enter Here."


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Neale Davidson

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
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FK Source wrote in article <33B0CF48.

>I suppose that you're not aware of the fact that it is not *even* a
>child yet, unborn or otherwise. It isn't even a fetus, when an abortion
>is typically performed it is only a cluster of cells that hasn't even
>taken the shape of anything. This is nowhere near being a life much
>less a child.

I cannot believe how wrong this is. I shouldn't reply... but...

According to most estimates produced by NOW, most abortions
are preformed at the latter part of the first tri-mester, and the
starting part of the second. At this point, your 'not even a child'
has a full spine and neural net, enabling him or her to feel everything
that happens, including the procedure. There are literally hundreds of
films made showing the fetus's reaction to an abortion, and it's not
pleasant.

To me, as soon as that fetus can REACT to a knife scraping the
inside of the womb (which causes damage to the mother as well),
that child is a living entity that is worth preserving.

> It is much like a symbiotic bacteria which is feeding off
>of a woman so that it can grow bigger and reproduce a similar bacteria.
>So what if that bacteria will maybe, possibly become a human being
>someday, at this early stage it is only just what it is, a combination
>of waste which two people have expelled. Being only just that these two
>people have the right to dispose of it so it won't leech off of them and
>others later.

The same logic can apply to the homeless in the streets, or children
as they're minors, or anyone else unable to fully fend for themselves?
Do you advicate killing them all simply because you don't want to
bother yourself with them?

Now, I want you to do me a favor and READ A BOOK on the subject.
Stop quoting speal you see on CNN and learn something for yourself.

Neale

The Nixtr

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
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QUOTING:

I suppose that you're not aware of the fact that it is not *even* a child
yet, unborn or otherwise. It isn't even a fetus, when an abortion is
typically performed it is only a cluster of cells that hasn't even taken
the shape of anything. This is nowhere near being a life much

less a child. (much like a tadpole isn't a baby frog since they look
nothing alike)

RESPONSE: I am aware of the myths and misinformation and fabrications
dreamed up ny Planned Parenthood, but learn something before posting.
There's no need to respond to this because #1, I thought his e-mail
message meant he didn't post his ignorance to the newsgroup. (but he did)
and B, THERE is NO NEED TO PROLONG this debate on ATT OR anywhere, because
when a pro-abort's mind is made up, he doesn't like to clutter it with
facts.
Anyone open-minded enough to accept the facts about childbirth and
abortion, I can send you a small piece of literature filled with a small
but incredible amount of information. It's edited and approved by
US Surgeon General C. Everett Koop. Anyone who can accept straight
information on abortion and pre-natal life should read this.
Even a PBS or Discovery special would be helpful. You'll see that
the baby in most abortions looks human even when the mother finds out
she's pregnant!

E-Mail me if you want the literature, or a video of testimony from
abortion providers themselves.

JoshBot

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
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I have one thing to say:

KILL THIS THREAD!

Oh yeah, one more thing too:

KILL IT NOW!

Thanks. :)

Josh Hammonds, wondering why can't we all just get along?

the...@rica.net

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In article <5otjl2$n...@winter.erols.com>,
"Neale Davidson" <nea...@erols.com> wrote:

<snip tired old debate on abortion that doesn't belong on this newsgroup>

>
> Now, I want you to do me a favor and READ A BOOK on the subject.
> Stop quoting speal you see on CNN and learn something for yourself.
>

I've got a much better idea. Let us please stop this thread. This is a
Transformers newsgroup. So why don't we start talking about
Transformers. How bout this. If you could transform into anything
(vehicle, beast, etc...) what would it be. Myself I would probably
transform into some type of sportscar such as a Trans-am. Anyone else?

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Jonathan McDougall and/or Melissa Andrews

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>
> Disney CEO Rodimus Prime : Let us march forward to a new age of money
sucking and
> Greed!!!!!! Till all are ours!!!!!!!!
>
> Disney Staff : Till All Are OURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

(clap clap)

It was the 'mouse ears of leadership' that one it for me.

Wisdom6724

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
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Wanna know my opinion on abortion?

O.K. after carefull consideration of both sides of this complex issue. I
have come to what I feel to be a strong and solid opinion that I feel most
other people would agree with and my opinion is: that we shouldn't waste
our breath talking about it on a newsgroup dedicatited to Transformers,
Now please Knock it off


Wisdom6724

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
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Please stop insighting people to continue this debate.

Wisdom6724

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
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Maybe if we all stopped argueing and filled our hearts with love,
if we united our efforts and worked together
we could STOP THIS THREAD

la...@ix.netcom.com

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
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david snyder wrote:
>
> Is Skorponok hard to find in anyone else's area? I live in Miami and
> have yet to be able to find one..

There are plenty in Broward county. The shelves at TRU are crawlin'
with Scorpies and Infernos
--Velociripper
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Wisdom6724

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
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Skorponok!!!!! GOD DAMN IT HE'S A TRANSFORMER YOU SHOULD MAKE THAT POST
TO A NEWSGROUP THAT IS CONCERNED WITH
TRANSFORMERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry about that, but i had to get that off my chest, these
non-transformer related posts are really starting to annoy me.

I assume your talkin about a BW skorp, well i noticed there are fewer
of him on the shelves now-a-days. but stores got inferno comin' out the
woodworkin'
keep lookin i'm sure he hasn't disapeared altogether yet


Kakarot

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
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Optimus_Koosh! wrote:
>
> Yeah, I agree about the non-transformer posts, but what is so 'non
> transformers' about his post????
>
>

I think he was just kidding. You know, sarcasm.
;)

He-Man

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
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Jonathan McDougall and/or Melissa Andrews <614...@ican.net> wrote in
article <614233-ya02408000...@news.ican.net>...

> > Pulp Fiction, Clerks, and Kids, sort of.
>
> Clerks: now there's a _great_ move. Possibly the most hilarious movie
> I've ever seen.
>
> I can think of several memorable quotes from the movie, but few that are
> appropriate to recite on a newsgroup dedicated to kid's toys :)

37!!!

Stabone

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
to Neale Davidson

I cannot believe you are still talking about this!!! This does not belong
here. Believe me, I would love to respond to all these posts but views
about this do belong here. We don't need to start such a heated debate
here. PLEASE for everyone \...GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!!!!! If you see a post
that does not have to do with TF's read it and reply to the author, not
the NG.

--Stabone


Anthony "Tonyfitz" Brucale

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Jonathan McDougall and/or Melissa Andrews <614...@ican.net> wrote in
article <614233-ya02408000...@news.ican.net>...
> > Pulp Fiction, Clerks, and Kids, sort of.
>
> Clerks: now there's a _great_ move. Possibly the most hilarious movie
> I've ever seen.
>

> I'd like to see what Jay & Silent Bob would do to Wheelie if they ever
> caught up with him :)

Wheelie:That is something strange, is your friend deranged?

Jay:He's trying to do the Jedi mind move...yo, cut that shit out....so
rhyme boy, wanna smoke some smoochie-woochies?....noise,noise,noise,smokin
weed smokin weed, doin' coke, drinkin' beers


Optimus_Koosh!

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Jun 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/27/97
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Yeah, I agree about the non-transformer posts, but what is so 'non
transformers' about his post????

Wisdom6724 <wisdo...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970626205...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...

The Choda

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Jun 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/27/97
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What the hell are you talking about Wisdom6724?? Last time I checked
Skorponok was a Transformer and he look at this we are in
alt.toys.transformers, a newsgroup dedicated to Transformers!!! If
that's your idea of a joke then perhaps you might need some professional
help man. I don't get what the hell you are mumbling about man.

Wisdom6724 wrote:
>
> Skorponok!!!!! GOD DAMN IT HE'S A TRANSFORMER YOU SHOULD MAKE THAT POST
> TO A NEWSGROUP THAT IS CONCERNED WITH
> TRANSFORMERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> sorry about that, but i had to get that off my chest, these
> non-transformer related posts are really starting to annoy me.
>
> I assume your talkin about a BW skorp, well i noticed there are fewer
> of him on the shelves now-a-days. but stores got inferno comin' out the
> woodworkin'
> keep lookin i'm sure he hasn't disapeared altogether yet

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>What the hell are you talking about Wisdom6724?? Last time I checked
>Skorponok was a Transformer and he look at this we are in
>alt.toys.transformers, a newsgroup dedicated to Transformers!!! If
>that's your idea of a joke then perhaps you might need some professional
>help man. I don't get what the hell you are mumbling about man.


I think he was just being sarcastic...

Wisdom6724

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Jun 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/27/97
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The Choda(love that name) wrote:
>What the hell are you talking about Wisdom6724?? Last time I checked
>Skorponok was a Transformer and he look at this we are in
>alt.toys.transformers, a newsgroup dedicated to Transformers!!! If that's
your >idea of a joke them perhaps you might need some professional help

man. I don't >get what the hell you are mumbling about man.

Jcsbandit wrote:
>I think he was just being sarcastic...

Yes i was being sarcastic, because this skorponok question just popped up
in the middle of this real long political thread. I thought it was really
funny that someone would disrespect a political thread like that. Anyway
my message was just meant to make fun of the fact that there have been
tons of STUPID political posts as of late, and very few Transformer
related posts.

optimus

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Jun 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/27/97
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614...@ican.net (Jonathan McDougall and/or Melissa Andrews) wrote:
>Wether or not abortion is 'murder' is something that's impossible to define
>- everyone has their own individual view on when a fetus is simply a part
>of a woman, and when it is an actual being in and of itself.
(snip)
That's where your wrong...Once that fetus is conceived it's alive.Just
because it is at preent inside a woman and surviving through her doesn't
mean diddly...Fetus's(feti?)suck their thumbs,kick,move around and need
nourishment...In my book and everybody else who has half a brain(cause
that's about how much of one I have)that means that a fetus is alive.


Jonathan McDougall and/or Melissa Andrews

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Jun 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/27/97
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> Is Skorponok hard to find in anyone else's area? I live in Miami and
> have yet to be able to find one..

At the Wal-Mart in Square One, Nississauga (near where I live) they used to
be _overflowing_ with Scorponoks and Polar Claws. The number has died down
now somewhat, but they're still plentiful . . .

Right now, the store is _jammed_ with Ultras! Optimus Primals and
Megatrons are now cramming the shelves, and more are literally stacked in
huge piles on top of the racks. They must have at least 100 of each Ultra,
but at the same time they appear to be going fast. One day a shelf will be
jammed in tight, the next day half of the shelf will be gone.

Wisdom6724

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I responded to this post yesterday with a really long winded explanation
of why I'd wanna be a Tank, but AOL disconected me before I could send it.
Anyway after having another day to think about it I changed my mind and I
think I'll go with a Tractor trailer, like Prime. Just cause I would like
havin' smoke stacks(you can read what ever you want into that!)

And my thanks to the guy who started this thread in defiance of all
these non-transformer threads

"I think he was just being sarcastic..."

-Jcsbandit

Wisdom6724

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Jun 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/28/97
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Whoa check out those crazy > can I type or what
also whilst I'm on tha subject, I'd like to appologize to the guy who
asked about Skorponok. I wasn't flaming you, and i am very regretful if
you took my response poorly

Eric Harding

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In article <1997Jun2...@rhea.bentley.edu>, BROO...@rhea.bentley.edu (Lewis M. Brooks, III) wrote:
>In article <Pine.LNX.3.95.970627...@newton.pconline.com>, The
> Lorax <lo...@pconline.com> writes:
>> On 26 Jun 1997, Lewis M. Brooks, III wrote:
>>
>>> In article <5otffo$l...@acy1.digex.net>, then...@acy1.digex.net (The Nixtr)
> writes:
>>> >
>>> > GIVE THIS THREAD A REST!
>>>
>>> Weren't you one of the people who started one of these threads with an
>>> anti-Disney post?
>>>
>>> Lewis
>>
>> Well Nixtr is the one who send me a couple pieces of rather nasty
>> e-mail for my saying this thread does not belong in this newsgroup and if
>> people didn't really want it here it would die on its own.
>
>I really like how Nixtr starts the thread, then realizes that he can't
>possibly win the argument and wants to end it. Seems appropriate somehow.
>
>Lewis
>


Yes, very...republican.

Eric

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Robotech_Master

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> On Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:11:17 -0600, the...@rica.net wrote:

>> If you could transform into anything (vehicle, beast, etc...) what
>> would it be. Myself I would probably transform into some type of
>> sportscar such as a Trans-am. Anyone else?

Hmm...probably either a mainframe computer (so I could _really_ surf
the net :) or the head or engine of a nice fast car-transtector (as
per Masterforce, thanks). Probably a Lamborghini Countach, since
they're so cool. :)
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Blurr

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Jun 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/28/97
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I'd be a 1967 Cadialliac(sp) Eldorado Convertable,HOTPINK,with all leather COW
Interior,and WHALE Skin huubcaps,And Big Brown Baby Seal Eyes for head lights.I'd
Drive around as that baby,while scarfing down quarter pounder cheese burgers from
McDonalds in the Old Fashioned Non-Biodegradeable contairs,and as soon as I was done
sucking down those Greese Ball burgers,I'd wipe my mouth with the Decepticon flag,and
toss the containers RIGHT OUT THE SIDE,and there ain't a God D@MN thing anyone can
do about it because WE GOT THE BOMBS,OK!?!?! Two words,Nuclear F!*&ing Weapons
OK!??!?!?!


As you can tell,I like Denis Leary :)


Anthony

Blurr

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Jun 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/28/97
to optimus

optimus wrote:
>
> That's where your wrong...Once that fetus is conceived it's alive.Just
> because it is at preent inside a woman and surviving through her doesn't
> mean diddly...Fetus's(feti?)suck their thumbs,kick,move around and need
> nourishment...In my book and everybody else who has half a brain(cause
> that's about how much of one I have)that means that a fetus is alive.

Ok,some hard core people say that once an egg is fertilized(sp) it is alive.It takes
about 3-5 days for a fertilized egg to reach the Uterus,but about %85 of a womans
fertilized eggs are flushed out (during those "pleasnt few days once a month) onto
little sanitary napikns.So it's safe to say to all of you hard core pro life people,
that ANY women who's had more than one period,is a serial killer!!!!!!

Here's another little thing for you pro life people to ponder about.
Why is it,that when it's a human it's called an abortion,but when it's a chicken,
IT'S CALLED ON OMLET!!!!!!!!!!Are we so much better than chickens that it's alright
for us to "slaughter" their unborn children??When was the last time you heard about
a chicken robbing a bank,or coming home and beating the $hit out of his hen?????

I'm not prolife,I'm not anti prolife,I'm not a vegeterian,I'm not for animal rights,
I'm not against animal rights,so it's safe to say that I can make a pretty unbiased
opinion about one of these groups.

One more thing to think about.All of you pro life people who are so worried about
safing unborn babies,but think it's ok to kill the docters that perform abortions,
call your selves PRO LIFE.What happens if one of these unborn babies turns out to
be a docter,do you still want to save him???


Just my $0.02,the last time I checked,both me and my ISP were in America,so I'm
stating my opinion,if you don't like it,you shouldn't have read this far.


Anthony

Blurr

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Jun 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/28/97
to optimus

Sorry about that last message/post,but I'm tired of this stuff about abortion and
Disney and Homo's.I didn't mean to be THAT harsh.


Anthony

Moy819

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Subject: Re: Skorponok???
From: 614...@ican.net (Jonathan McDougall and/or Melissa Andrews)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 19:27:54 -0500
Message-ID: <614233-ya02408000...@news.ican.net>

> Is Skorponok hard to find in anyone else's area? I live in Miami and
> have yet to be able to find one..

In the Toys r Us by me, there are only infernos. I bought that last
skorponok last week. There haven't been any polar claws in the longest
time. There also is alot of air razors too.

Shilok

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> >I've got a much better idea. Let us please stop this thread. This is a
> >Transformers newsgroup. So why don't we start talking about

> >Transformers. How bout this. If you could transform into anything


> >(vehicle, beast, etc...) what would it be. Myself I would probably
> >transform into some type of sportscar such as a Trans-am. Anyone else?

I would probably transform into an Apache Gunship or some other cool war
chopper

Shilok


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