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henry jakala

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obviously Maggie Williams is a moron - hell she can't remeber anything
yet Hillary relies onn her ?? for what ?????

maybe she's the best lay Hillary's ever had ?? or Slick for matter ??

it just boggles my mind why Hillary finds her so indispensible :-)


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Frank R. Hipp

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jak...@netcom.com (henry jakala) wrote:

>
>
> obviously Maggie Williams is a moron - hell she can't remeber anything
> yet Hillary relies onn her ?? for what ?????
>
> maybe she's the best lay Hillary's ever had ?? or Slick for matter ??
>
> it just boggles my mind why Hillary finds her so indispensible :-)
>
>
>

Heck, the co-presidents and the whole darn staff have 'selective
memories', she fits right in !!

Frank R. Hipp

John Q. Public

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XtianWhite wrote:
>
> Sure, blame it all on the African-American. Next thing you know they'll
> pin the Vince Foster murder on Maggie Williams. They're gonna say Foster
> tried to steal the large footed William's Nike high tops, and she "busted
> a cap in that honkey's ass."
>
> As to why the Whitehouse keeps Maggie Williams around? Because who else
> can safely go into Washington DC's worst ghettos and score crack for the
> Whitehouse gang?


If the WH is ever forced to acknowledge that the Fiske report
is the crap that it is, they'll find a different dead guy
to blame Foster's death on. Craig L., are you with me on this?

C. L. Williams

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Mar 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/8/97
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jak...@netcom.com (henry jakala) wrote:

> obviously Maggie Williams is a moron - hell she can't remeber anything
> yet Hillary relies onn her ?? for what ?????

> maybe she's the best lay Hillary's ever had ?? or Slick for matter ??

> it just boggles my mind why Hillary finds her so indispensible :-)


Probably because she's a lot like Sergeant Schultz on Hogan's Heroes.
"I see nothink!"

C.L. Williams

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XtianWhite

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Mar 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/8/97
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left is right

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In article <19970308045...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
xtian...@aol.com says...

There is nothing like rightwing race baiting. When are you loser ever going
to learn?


ding...@erinet.com

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left is right wrote:
>
>
>
> There is nothing like rightwing race baiting. When are you loser ever going
> to learn?

Your intelligence is showing, turd.

What was it the First Felon said? "Ah can vividly remember when those
black churches wuz burned in AR, when I wuz a small child". Not verbatim,
but you wouldn't know the difference, turd. That, turd, is race-baiting.

Ironword

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<5fr75p$3f...@news.doit.wisc.edu>esr...@facstaff.wisc.edu (left is right)
mentioned:

>In article <19970308045...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
>xtian...@aol.com says...
>>
>>Sure, blame it all on the African-American. Next thing you know they'll
>>pin the Vince Foster murder on Maggie Williams. They're gonna say
Foster
>>tried to steal the large footed William's Nike high tops, and she
"busted
>>a cap in that honkey's ass."
>>
>>As to why the Whitehouse keeps Maggie Williams around? Because who else
>>can safely go into Washington DC's worst ghettos and score crack for the
>>Whitehouse gang?

>There is nothing like rightwing race baiting. When are you loser ever
going
>to learn?

Learn how to divide American society into numerous, bickering social
groups; learn how to shun and malign individals such as Justice Clarence
Thomas who are successful without toeing or espousing the line, et cetera
and so forth.

Its not about color, it's about content of character, stupid.


XtianWhite

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I've always had this feeling that Craig Livingstone will one day play a
pivotal role in this scandal. He's either gonna talk, be the scapegoat or
wind up dead.

Kenton

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ding...@erinet.com wrote:

>
> left is right wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > There is nothing like rightwing race baiting. When are you loser ever going
> > to learn?
>
> Your intelligence is showing, turd.
>
> What was it the First Felon said? "Ah can vividly remember when those
> black churches wuz burned in AR, when I wuz a small child". Not verbatim,
> but you wouldn't know the difference, turd. That, turd, is race-baiting.
ding, speaking of things racial; just had a thought. Wonder if
leftisIRRELEVANT could call down to Slickage, and have him get ahold of
his Chineese arms dealer pal. Chinadude could arrange for a chineese
semiautomatic pistol for leftisIRRELEVANT. When she finally PULLS THE
TRIGGER, well we'd have us a headline for sure! The first felon could be
said to have quoted the following historical gem, "welll, ahh seem ta
remember tha days when marginal characters would onla use ahmericahn
guns reach maatadom. What has happened to ahr society?"

Mark White

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Mar 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/8/97
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This is a safe bet. Being human we will all; some day, wind up dead.

Mark White

Steven H. Findeiss

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XtianWhite wrote:
: I've always had this feeling that Craig Livingstone will one day play a
: pivotal role in this scandal. He's either gonna talk, be the scapegoat or
: wind up dead.

Let's take a poll. I vote for dead. Anybody else? --s

Billy Beck

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It wouldn't catch me the least bit off balance if Stoney
turned up jammed into the gas filters at Swopa's "living experiment"
like three hundred pounds of sliced baloney, with a note 'splaining
why the deli held the mayo.

"Mistakes were made."


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ding...@erinet.com

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Steven H. Findeiss wrote:
>
> XtianWhite wrote:
> : I've always had this feeling that Craig Livingstone will one day play a
> : pivotal role in this scandal. He's either gonna talk, be the scapegoat or
> : wind up dead.
>
> Let's take a poll. I vote for dead. Anybody else? --s


I vote for dead--anyone heard from him--in months?

73131...@compuserve.com

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In article <5g31d3$o...@ionews.ionet.net>,

s...@ionet.net (Steven H. Findeiss) wrote:
>
> XtianWhite wrote:
> : I've always had this feeling that Craig Livingstone will one day play a
> : pivotal role in this scandal. He's either gonna talk, be the scapegoat or
> : wind up dead.
>
> Let's take a poll. I vote for dead. Anybody else? --s

I agree. Count two-zero. He'll be found in a homosexual hangout park
near DC shot in the head with an untraceable gun made from the parts of
other pre-registration guns. His suit will be covered with carpet
fibers, and there will be semen and a blond hair in his underwear. No
one will have heard a shot, including security guards at the Saudi
Arabian consulate, and there will be very little blood at the scene.
Although he will have walked 200 yards through clay there will be no
trace of that soil on his shoes. He will be found (still?) holding the
gun in an odd manner in the wrong hand.

Yes, it will be another obvious suicide. A product of the Washington
game where "ruining lives is considered sport." - Just funnin' ya in
flyover country.

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Frank R. Hipp

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ding...@erinet.com wrote:

>Steven H. Findeiss wrote:
>>
>> XtianWhite wrote:
>> : I've always had this feeling that Craig Livingstone will one day play a
>> : pivotal role in this scandal. He's either gonna talk, be the scapegoat or
>> : wind up dead.
>>
>> Let's take a poll. I vote for dead. Anybody else? --s
>
>

>I vote for dead--anyone heard from him--in months?

He's probably in China or Indonesia living the *good life* of a
semi-retired 'security expert'.

Frank R. Hipp

Steven H. Findeiss

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Mar 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/12/97
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XtianWhite wrote:
: I've always had this feeling that Craig Livingstone will one day play a
: pivotal role in this scandal. He's either gonna talk, be the scapegoat
: or wind up dead.

me:


> Let's take a poll. I vote for dead. Anybody else? --s

73131.3157 added:
: I agree. Count two-zero. He'll be found in a homosexual hangout park


: near DC shot in the head with an untraceable gun made from the parts of
: other pre-registration guns. His suit will be covered with carpet
: fibers, and there will be semen and a blond hair in his underwear. No
: one will have heard a shot, including security guards at the Saudi
: Arabian consulate, and there will be very little blood at the scene.
: Although he will have walked 200 yards through clay there will be no
: trace of that soil on his shoes. He will be found (still?) holding the
: gun in an odd manner in the wrong hand.

: Yes, it will be another obvious suicide. A product of the Washington
: game where "ruining lives is considered sport." - Just funnin' ya in
: flyover country.

I think this should make "Best of the Internet." What a hoot! --s

Charles Mott

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On 11 Mar 1997, Steven H. Findeiss wrote:

> XtianWhite wrote:
> : I've always had this feeling that Craig Livingstone will one day play a
> : pivotal role in this scandal. He's either gonna talk, be the scapegoat or
> : wind up dead.
>

> Let's take a poll. I vote for dead. Anybody else? --s
>
>

A month or so ago, US marshals were attempting to serve subpoenas on
Livingstone and Marceca. Were these subpoenas ever successfully served?
I don't remember any more news articles about this.


Westnet

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Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/13/97
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You wrote If Maggie can't recall - why does Hillary keep her on.

You should know that the rules of the game are somewhat different in that
arena.

When you are testifying under oath, about a conversation that took place
some 20 months ago, you better be absolutely sure of what exactly you
said and what the other person said. Or else you can be charged with
perjury. So, in case you are not 100% sure, the only alternative you have
is to testify 'I don't recall'. There is no third way about it.

Now, I suggest you try and recall a series of conversations and then sort
out which conversation relates to which phone call / meeting (during a
given day/week some 20 months ago). I would like to know your response.

Best


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Nice try........

TOTAL UNRECALL

Remember when Ronald Reagan appeared in a California courtroom to give a
videotaped deposition on Iran-contra? In the course of eight hours of
testimony over two days, the former president had trouble remembering
lots of key details. The Washington Post had a field day. "The Man Who
Didn't Know Too Much," read the headline in the Herblock cartoon the
next day. "Reagan's 18-Minute Gap," wrote Art Buchwald, suggesting that
Reagan easily remembered the minutiae of his life in the movies while
conveniently forgetting details of Iran-contra.

People joked about it. Someone even gave me a little computer program
that made Reagan's face pop up unexpectedly to say, "I do not recall."
Of course, the former president was 79 years old at the time--and on the
road to Alzheimer's disease. But that didn't matter. Everybody knew he
was lying.

Now several major Clinton administration figures have suffered a
comparable loss of memory during their testimony before the
congressional committees investigating Whitewater. All are far younger
than Ronald Reagan and, to my knowledge, none has Alzheimer's.

Testifying before senators who wanted to know more about the period
following the death of Vincent Foster, Margaret Williams, chief of staff
to first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, said on at least thirty separate
occasions that she did not remember events of those days. Susan
Thomases, the first lady's New York confidante, cited no memory at least
forty-one times. And Bernard Nussbaum--the former White House counsel
who told senators, "My memory is not vague, it's quite definite, and not
at all uncertain"-- nonetheless claimed he could not remember at least
seventy-one times.

Unfortunately for investigators, the memory hole apparently swallowed
not just tiny details but also a number of critical Whitewater events.
Did Mrs. Clinton order the search of Vince Foster's office? Did
Williams, at the first lady's bidding, make off with important files on
the night of Foster's death? Did a Nussbaum assistant really see scraps
of paper at the bottom of the briefcase? Nobody remembers.

Before jumping to any conclusions, Whitewater investigators should ask
whether there might be a medical explanation. People do forget things.
The odd thing is that, when it comes to major events, most
people--especially high-powered types like the Clinton team--believe
they have excellent memories. Dr. Barry Gordon, associate professor of
neurology and cognitive science at Johns Hopkins University and author
of the forthcoming book Memory: Remembering and Forgetting in Everyday
Life, describes something called the Flashbulb Effect. "People in
extraordinary circumstances often feel they have an extra-brilliant
memory," he says. They remember small details about big events. It might
be a national event, like the JFK assassination. Or it might be a
personal event, like the suicide of a close friend. According to Gordon,
the memories are not always accurate. But what is striking is that most
people strongly believe they have a good memory of whatever event
affected them deeply.

Most of the administration witnesses said the Foster death struck them
like a thunderbolt. Williams--a woman known for her steely demeanor who
knew Foster for just seven months--cried openly at the hearings. Unlike
those who experience the Flashbulb Effect, however, details about July
1993 receded into the mists of her memory. A similar malady struck
Thomases and Nussbaum. The more powerful the figure, the cloudier the
memory--while insiders struggled to recall some of the most basic
details, the secretaries, interns, and Secret Service officers who
testified appeared to have no problem with their recollections. In fact,
they provided much of the new information revealed at the Senate
hearings.

If the most powerful seemed somehow immune to the Flashbulb Effect,
perhaps it is because of another clinical phenomenon, one Dr. Gordon
calls "response bias." People tend to cite their memory in different
ways depending on how much is at stake. "If I ask you in casual
conversation, 'Did you put your wallet in your pocket this morning?' you
answer one way," says Gordon. "But if I ask by saying, 'On the basis of
your answer, you are going to live or die,' you might hesitate." The
Clinton team certainly knows what is at stake in the investigations;
they know what the Republicans suspect and what they want to uncover. A
full and truthful answer could mean a lot of trouble. "If I make it
dangerous for you to say yes," says Dr. Gordon, "then you'll push your
response away from that area."

Of course, the reason may have nothing to do with psychology. "By saying
'I don't recall' you avoid prosecution for little crimes like perjury,"
says a former Justice Department official who followed the hearings. "If
you're a prosecutor and you simply can't prove who's lying and who's
telling the truth, you're not going to bring a case." Bad memory raises
the standard of proof; the witness forces investigators to come up with
a powerful and contemporaneous piece of documentary evidence that proves
the witness is lying. "Simply having people whose stories contradict
each other is not enough," says the former official. "If there's no
corroboration, it's a tough case to prove." The only way to win, he
says, is to amass an unassailable collection of incriminating phone
logs, messages, e-mail, memoranda, and personal notes.

But if none of this rises to the standard of perjury, what about the old
Iran-contra favorite, contempt of Congress? The legacy of that
Reagan-era scandal is the criminalization of congressional oversight
hearings. If Elliott Abrams committed a crime by not telling Congress
everything he knew, didn't Williams, Thomases, and Nussbaum commit a
more serious offense?

Yes, but whether they will be prosecuted depends on the independent
counsel. And that leads to the question of whether Republicans should
want Kenneth Starr to imitate the shabby inquisition of Lawrence Walsh.

The answer is surely no. But it is delicious to imagine Walsh conducting
the Whitewater investigation. Picture him lining up the nervous,
sweating apparatchiksof this affair--people like Clifford Sloan,
Nussbaum's former assistant who deniedfinding scraps of paper in the
bottom of Foster's briefcase even though a Fosterfamily lawyer says he
saw him do it. Or Stephen Neuwirth, another Nussbaum assistant, who says
he did find the scraps of paper several days later. The following
speech, delivered in Walsh's gravest tones,might result: Gentlemen,
you're young men with fine careers. Through your talent and hard work,
you've reached the highest level of government. That in itself is a
great honor. But you need to understand that contempt of Congress is a
very serious offense. It could lead to jail, disbarment,disgrace--and
crippling legal bills. Your loyalty to the administration is
admirable,but it's time to think about yourselves and your families. Now
about the note...

ILLUSTRATION

~~~~~~~~

By Byron York Byron York is a writer and television producer in
Washington.

Copyright 1995 by American Spectator. Text may not be copied without
the express written permission of American Spectator.

Lew Glendenning

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Westnet wrote:
>
> You wrote If Maggie can't recall - why does Hillary keep her on.
>
> You should know that the rules of the game are somewhat different in that
> arena.
>
> When you are testifying under oath, about a conversation that took place
> some 20 months ago, you better be absolutely sure of what exactly you
> said and what the other person said. Or else you can be charged with
> perjury. So, in case you are not 100% sure, the only alternative you have
> is to testify 'I don't recall'. There is no third way about it.
>
> Now, I suggest you try and recall a series of conversations and then sort
> out which conversation relates to which phone call / meeting (during a
> given day/week some 20 months ago). I would like to know your response.
>
> Best

This is not entirely true.

You can say: "I can't say exactly, but I believe that ..., and here are
the phone records and memos and notes upon which I base my memory."

Instead, these people shred every bit of evidence, then say they can't
remember anything.

It is the difference between a cooperative witness with a normal memory,
and an obstructive witness with no memory.

Lew

Billy Beck

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Lew Glendenning <rlgl...@alink.net> wrote:

>Instead, these people shred every bit of evidence, then say they can't
>remember anything.

Uhm, this isn't exactly true, either, Lew. Administration
witnesses displayed remarkable powers of recollection when confronted
with questions from the minority members of congressional panels. One
almost *never* heard them answer Sarbanes, for instance, with, "I
don't remember."


Billy

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Frank Pittel

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henry jakala (jak...@netcom.com) wrote:


: obviously Maggie Williams is a moron - hell she can't remeber anything
: yet Hillary relies onn her ?? for what ?????

: maybe she's the best lay Hillary's ever had ?? or Slick for matter ??

: it just boggles my mind why Hillary finds her so indispensible :-)

Heck Hillary doesn't remember anything either. I remember her in
front of congress, I don't know, I don't remember, I don't know, I
don't remember, etc, etc.


--


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ZB

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Mar 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/24/97
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On Tue, 25 Mar 1997 01:10:53 GMT, mi...@mich.com (Michael Beck) wrote:

>f...@deepthought.com (Frank Pittel) wrote:
>
>>henry jakala (jak...@netcom.com) wrote:
>
>
>>: obviously Maggie Williams is a moron - hell she can't remeber anything
>>: yet Hillary relies onn her ?? for what ?????
>
>>: maybe she's the best lay Hillary's ever had ?? or Slick for matter ??
>
>>: it just boggles my mind why Hillary finds her so indispensible :-)
>
>>Heck Hillary doesn't remember anything either. I remember her in
>>front of congress, I don't know, I don't remember, I don't know, I
>>don't remember, etc, etc.
>

>Maybe Hillary doesn't remember why she hired her and Maggie doesn't
>remember why she agreed?
>
>Or perhaps, someone else hired Maggie but doesn't recall and Hillary
>denied outside influences in Maggie's hiring, but she did nothing
>wrong, is not ashamed of it, but doesn't remember after all.
>
Or perhaps some of you religious right wacos are so damned biased and
with the country and economy in relatively good shape, can't find
anything else to fucking gripe about.

gp
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Michael Beck

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gar...@ix.netcom.comm (ZB) wrote:

>On Tue, 25 Mar 1997 01:10:53 GMT, mi...@mich.com (Michael Beck) wrote:

>>wrong, is not ashamed of it, but doesn't remember after all.
>>
>Or perhaps some of you religious right wacos are so damned biased and
>with the country and economy in relatively good shape, can't find
>anything else to fucking gripe about.

I don't recall griping about anything. I may have, but I don't
recall. I also don't recall going to church lately (in the past
several years). So much for "religious right". I also don't recall
what the current president specifically did to make the economy and
country relatively better. After all, the Republicans hold the purse
strings in Congress and Billy Boy has taken the Republican side on
many social issues and has largely followed their lead. But then
again, I just don't recall.


Michael Beck

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f...@deepthought.com (Frank Pittel) wrote:

>henry jakala (jak...@netcom.com) wrote:


>: obviously Maggie Williams is a moron - hell she can't remeber anything
>: yet Hillary relies onn her ?? for what ?????

>: maybe she's the best lay Hillary's ever had ?? or Slick for matter ??

>: it just boggles my mind why Hillary finds her so indispensible :-)

>Heck Hillary doesn't remember anything either. I remember her in
>front of congress, I don't know, I don't remember, I don't know, I
>don't remember, etc, etc.

Maybe Hillary doesn't remember why she hired her and Maggie doesn't
remember why she agreed?

Or perhaps, someone else hired Maggie but doesn't recall and Hillary
denied outside influences in Maggie's hiring, but she did nothing

K. Knopp

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
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In article <333707bf...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, gar...@ix.netcom.comm
(ZB) wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Mar 1997 01:10:53 GMT, mi...@mich.com (Michael Beck) wrote:
>

> >f...@deepthought.com (Frank Pittel) wrote:

<SNIP>

> >Maybe Hillary doesn't remember why she hired her and Maggie doesn't
> >remember why she agreed?
> >
> >Or perhaps, someone else hired Maggie but doesn't recall and Hillary
> >denied outside influences in Maggie's hiring, but she did nothing
> >wrong, is not ashamed of it, but doesn't remember after all.
> >

> Or perhaps some of you religious right wacos are so damned biased and
> with the country and economy in relatively good shape, can't find
> anything else to fucking gripe about.

Or perhaps gar...@ix.netcom.comm (ZB) is such a bigot that he insists on
condemming the religious beliefs of others, before they even have a chance
to state them.

Paul Havemann

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: gar...@ix.netcom.com (ZB) wrote:


: > mi...@mich.com (Michael Beck) wrote:
: > >f...@deepthought.com (Frank Pittel) wrote:
:
: <SNIP>
: > >Maybe Hillary doesn't remember why she hired her and Maggie doesn't
: > >remember why she agreed?
: > >
: > >Or perhaps, someone else hired Maggie but doesn't recall and Hillary
: > >denied outside influences in Maggie's hiring, but she did nothing
: > >wrong, is not ashamed of it, but doesn't remember after all.
: > >
: > Or perhaps some of you religious right wacos are so damned biased and
: > with the country and economy in relatively good shape, can't find
: > anything else to fucking gripe about.
:
: Or perhaps gar...@ix.netcom.comm (ZB) is such a bigot that he insists on
: condemming the religious beliefs of others, before they even have a chance
: to state them.

Not necessarily; he could be simply a fool whose knee jerks in
automatic condemnation of anyone -- even people he doesn't know -- who
_dares_ to criticize The Most Ethical Administation In History.

(psst - there's bait there, gary. wanna take it?)

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Paul Havemann (pa...@hsh.com)

"It is wrong to raise money on the promise of guaranteeing
specific kinds of access. That is wrong and we have stopped that."
-- President Bill Clinton, August 4, 1995

"Mistakes were made..."
-- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 1997, finally admitting
that he and the DNC continued to 'raise money on the
promise of guaranteeing specific kinds of access.'

Michael Beck

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pa...@hshuna.hsh.com (Paul Havemann) wrote:


>Not necessarily; he could be simply a fool whose knee jerks in
>automatic condemnation of anyone -- even people he doesn't know -- who
>_dares_ to criticize The Most Ethical Administation In History.

..... "with the highest ethical Standards of any administration".
Perhaps they were talking about adminstrations in Haiti or Mexico?


Bill

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
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ZB wrote:

>
> On Tue, 25 Mar 1997 01:10:53 GMT, mi...@mich.com (Michael Beck) wrote:
>
> >f...@deepthought.com (Frank Pittel) wrote:
> >
> >>henry jakala (jak...@netcom.com) wrote:
> >
> >
> >>: obviously Maggie Williams is a moron - hell she can't remeber anything

> >>: it just boggles my mind why Hillary finds her so indispensible

> Or perhaps some of you religious right wacos are so damned biased and


> with the country and economy in relatively good shape, can't find
> anything else to fucking gripe about.

> gp

Right... Hillary will no doubt explain that Maggie is part of the
Administration's "Help The Handicapped" program by hiring "memory
challenged" staff... That should work to convince all the liberal
dummies that everything is still fine. And the lies and crimes will
continue, 'cause what really counts is that the economy is OK...

Also, I think you meant "Whackos (not Wacos) ... The "Wacos" no longer
exist, thanks to Slick and his gorgeous AG - Janet. ...:)

Bill

Charles R. Smith

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Mar 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/26/97
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mi...@mich.com (Michael Beck) wrote:

>gar...@ix.netcom.comm (ZB) wrote:

>>On Tue, 25 Mar 1997 01:10:53 GMT, mi...@mich.com (Michael Beck) wrote:

>>>wrong, is not ashamed of it, but doesn't remember after all.
>>>

>>Or perhaps some of you religious right wacos are so damned biased and
>>with the country and economy in relatively good shape, can't find
>>anything else to fucking gripe about.

>I don't recall griping about anything. I may have, but I don't


>recall. I also don't recall going to church lately (in the past
>several years). So much for "religious right". I also don't recall
>what the current president specifically did to make the economy and
>country relatively better. After all, the Republicans hold the purse
>strings in Congress and Billy Boy has taken the Republican side on
>many social issues and has largely followed their lead. But then
>again, I just don't recall.

WITNESSES' MEMORY LAPSES DURING COMMITTEE DEPOSITIONS

Bill Kennedy ****** 116
Harold Ickes ******* 148
Ricki Seidman ******** 160
Bruce Lindsey ******** 161
Bill Burton ********** 191
Mark Gearan *********** 221
Mack McLarty *********** 233
Neil Egglseston ************ 250
HRC ************ 250
John Podesta ************* 264
Jennifer O'Connor ***************** 343
Dwight Holton ***************** 348
Patsy Thomasson ********************* 420
Jeff Eller *********************************** 697

"I know nothing! Nothing!" Sgt. Schultz - Hogan's Heros


1 if by land, 2 if by sea. Paul Revere - encryption 1775

Charles R. Smith
SOFTWAR
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Michael Beck

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Mar 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/26/97
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sof...@us.net (Charles R. Smith) wrote:

>"I know nothing! Nothing!" Sgt. Schultz - Hogan's Heros

Also, "I see nooothing noooooooooothing!"


wol...@econo.net

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On Wed, 26 Mar 1997 00:27:34 GMT, sof...@us.net (Charles R. Smith)
wrote:

>mi...@mich.com (Michael Beck) wrote:


>
>>gar...@ix.netcom.comm (ZB) wrote:
>
>>>On Tue, 25 Mar 1997 01:10:53 GMT, mi...@mich.com (Michael Beck) wrote:
>

>WITNESSES' MEMORY LAPSES DURING COMMITTEE DEPOSITIONS
>
>Bill Kennedy ****** 116
>Harold Ickes ******* 148
>Ricki Seidman ******** 160
>Bruce Lindsey ******** 161
>Bill Burton ********** 191
>Mark Gearan *********** 221
>Mack McLarty *********** 233
>Neil Egglseston ************ 250
>HRC ************ 250
>John Podesta ************* 264
>Jennifer O'Connor ***************** 343
>Dwight Holton ***************** 348
>Patsy Thomasson ********************* 420
>Jeff Eller *********************************** 697
>

>"I know nothing! Nothing!" Sgt. Schultz - Hogan's Heros
>

That is a interesting list and scary, these people help the Clintons
run the country.
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David G. Hughey

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Mar 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/26/97
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That was my thought - according to what I've been seeing, it doesn't
matter. After all, the POTUS was elected By A Mandate of The People and
this is the most ethical administration in history and the FLOTUS is the
smartest woman in the world and wants, nay, DEMANDS what's best for
everybody. So what if a few rules were allegedly bent? So what if the
POTUS and the VPOTUS spend a goodly amount of time raising money for
political purposes? It's to take CARE of you, my fellow Americans,
because God only knows what you did prior to 1992.

Now all of y'all rest easy - they're all here to take CARE of you (tm).


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