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Chris Camfield

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Mar 7, 1994, 8:45:45 AM3/7/94
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Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

Hell, I wish I knew what more to say; my ex has just gotten engaged with
someone she doesn't love, but that's another story :(

Don't do it, that's all I can say. No one is worth killing yourself over.
(Do people agree with me on this, or is my self-protective turtle shell
showing?) I know it won't seem like it, but there _is_ life without her.
I wouldn't suggest sleeping with her anymore. I don't really like the
fact that you (accidentally) ended up in bed together, etc, and that she
hasn't told her fiance about you, when she is engaged...
--
Chris Camfield (ccam...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca)
"Change is like the nursery, it's the place where everything grows
And time moves like a river, we kiss the bank and on we go
All falling apart, you hold the key to unlock my secret heart" (Tim Finn)

v...@ag-eco.tamu.edu

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Mar 7, 1994, 11:45:06 AM3/7/94
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In article <2les4f...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Diablo <ma...@cornell.edu> writes:
>From: Diablo <ma...@cornell.edu>
>Subject: Love and Death
>Date: 7 Mar 1994 09:28:47 GMT

Killing yourself is no solution. I believe you know this, otherwise you
wouldn't seek help from others.

I know where you're at. What you're feeling. I was involved in a relationship
of 10+ years that went south in the space of one short weekend. The
lets-just-be-friends speech is perhaps the most painful speech of all. I
considered suicide. *Seriously* considered it. I even bought four bottles of
sleeping pills. At one point, I even dumped them all out into a bowl and had
a bottle of Coke sitting there to wash them down with. I stared at them all
night and thought, "come on, girl, what's stopping you?"

After weeks of asking myself that question, I finally came up with an answer.
What stopped me was pride. I wasn't about to give that ... other person ...
that kind of power over me. He wasn't worth it. I still haven't found anyone
new. I doubt I ever will. But I've found a strength in myself that doesn't
rely on outside support. Oh, I still fall into depression. Everyone does.
It's what I do with that depression that's changed.

If you need someone to talk to who understands, I'm here. If you prefer
telephone talk, I'm up for that, too. You're not alone in this. Remember
that.

Vicki


Jonathan Maszak

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Mar 10, 1994, 7:14:41 PM3/10/94
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In article <CMArK...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> ccam...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca
(Chris Camfield) writes:
$Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
$
$Hell, I wish I knew what more to say; my ex has just gotten engaged with
$someone she doesn't love, but that's another story :(
$
$Don't do it, that's all I can say. No one is worth killing yourself over.
$(Do people agree with me on this, or is my self-protective turtle shell
$showing?) I know it won't seem like it, but there _is_ life without her.
$I wouldn't suggest sleeping with her anymore. I don't really like the
$fact that you (accidentally) ended up in bed together, etc, and that she
$hasn't told her fiance about you, when she is engaged...
$--
$Chris Camfield (ccam...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca)
$"Change is like the nursery, it's the place where everything grows
$ And time moves like a river, we kiss the bank and on we go
$ All falling apart, you hold the key to unlock my secret heart" (Tim Finn)

agreed! my only response to diablo is to sack up and grow a pair. i have no respect for
anybody willing to off themselves because of a juvenile love affair. get a clue. and to
use a cliche, "there are many other fish in the sea" and they are probably a lot more
honest than the woman you're are with. for christ's sake she's been cheating on her
husband/fiance' whatever. what makes you think she'll be faithful to you. give me a
break.
jon

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