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John_-_...@cup.portal.com

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Feb 27, 1994, 10:12:05 AM2/27/94
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Dear Folks: Here is some information from a friend of mine that will show you
how to listen to Bill Cooper on the radio if you should so desire. Now Bill
is a person who a lot of people hate to pieces. He does such things as tyy
to save us from the New World Order and talks about UFOs. Here is the
information as it was sent to me............................................
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INTEROFFICE MEMORANDUM

Date: 22-Feb-1994 07:31pm
From: P M K

John (or should I call you JW),

If you haven't already, try to listen to William (Bill) Cooper on WWCR
5.810 mHz on the short wave at midnight-1am EST. He is saying that the
"New World Order" will get (or try to get) control of the world by either
staging or actually having an invasion from "Outer Space" to unite the world
in a common cause. They (and I use the term generally) have used reverse-
engineering from a downed alien craft (probably from Roswell) to make
reproductions of Alien crafts. This "reverse-engineering is mentioned in the
Popular Science article.

Thank You.

Sincerely,
P K

JW So there you have it folks. Tune in to Bill Cooper same time same
station.

John Winston.

Bill Carbonelli

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Feb 28, 1994, 12:34:47 AM2/28/94
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John_-_...@cup.portal.com wrote:
: Dear Folks: Here is some information from a friend of mine that will show you

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: INTEROFFICE MEMORANDUM

: Thank You.

: John Winston.

John:

First off, thank you for also including the frequency for the broadcast. I now
have a new station to add to my radio listening (i *KNEW* that short wave
would come in handy sooner or later!)...

As for the reverse-engineering... At first, people will think EVERYTHING is
bullshit, especially when rags like The Star, the Enquirer, and that mother of
all insanity, The GLOBE print stories about Aliens this and Aliens that... BUT
when a publication with the "Clout" (for lack of a better word) for truth in
science prints something about UFOs, NOW you know you're dealing with
something IMPORTANT...

I've already purchased several issues for good friends of mine that have
laughed at me when i went out with expeditions to research landings and
interview abductees... "You're NUTS, Bill! These things are just printed to
sell newspapers in supermarkets!"... NOW, they can't laugh, and the BIGGEST
skeptic in the world, my best friend William, is taking a second look at what
i call "Faith in a cause"...

If this so-called "World Order" comes to pass, it's people like those who post
on this newsgroup and "Have Faith" to believe before shown proof that will be
able to see behind all the dogma and truly understand what is coming to
pass...

And yes... If staging an "Invasion" were all it took to unite the planet under
one cause, i'm all for it! We're too separated... There are too many ways
people see to keep us apart, and hardly any at all that bind us together...

THAT is what i see of these "Reverse Engineered" crafts... Let's say, for the
sake of conversation, that Aliens *HAVE* visited here... Crashed (or landed
and were examined, killed, freeze-dried, whatever)... And all we have left are
ships we just don't understand...

Alright, you can either rip them apart and never tell anyone you had them, or
you could try to understand how they worked and use them directly (difficult,
since the ships were simply not MADE for our level of understanding i assume),
or you could take them apart piece by piece, and try your best to figure out
what that PIECE means to the WHOLE... I'm sure in some way the work done by
Tesla and the work done in psionics were somehow "Related" to "Things" found
(crashed) during these periods... 8)

But back to my theory...

If you WERE going to "Stage a take-over", what a perfect way to do so than
with ALIEN LOOKING ships, R&D'd by the collective governments, piloted by a
select crew, and trained to simply put a "Scare" into those places that need
to be brought "into the foal"...

Simply put, it'd make the stage magic of Houdini look like child's play... 8)

Bill
magi...@dorsai.dorsai.org

Edward Flaherty

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Feb 28, 1994, 10:11:31 AM2/28/94
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John_-_...@cup.portal.com writes:
> If you haven't already, try to listen to William (Bill) Cooper on WWCR
> 5.810 mHz on the short wave at midnight-1am EST. He is saying that the
> "New World Order" will get (or try to get) control of the world by either
> staging or actually having an invasion from "Outer Space" to unite the world
> in a common cause. They (and I use the term generally) have used reverse-
> engineering from a downed alien craft (probably from Roswell) to make
> reproductions of Alien crafts. This "reverse-engineering is mentioned in the
> Popular Science article.
>

So, John, if that IS your real name, what should we, the ordinary
ignorant citizens of the world do about this impending invasion? Where
will these aliens come from. Are they Klingons? Romulans? the Borg?
Darth Vader's storm troopers?
Tell me, what's it like to live in your world, to live in a
constant state of paranoia? What color is the sky in your world? Do they
let you have crayons to play with where you are?

Peter R Cook

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Feb 28, 1994, 11:56:20 AM2/28/94
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Bill Cooper is a raving lunatic, and this is coming from a
firm believer in UFOs, abductions, et al. I believe in it
because I've seen enough facts to convince me.

Bill Cooper on the other hand is a lunatic. I'm not sure
how many people here remember his ravings on the 'net
about two years ago. I'd swear the government is paying
him to discredit the entire UFO community.

-prc


Brett Middleton

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Feb 28, 1994, 11:57:05 AM2/28/94
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efla...@garnet.acns.fsu.edu (Edward Flaherty) writes:


>John_-_...@cup.portal.com writes:
>> "New World Order" will get (or try to get) control of the world by either
>> staging or actually having an invasion from "Outer Space" to unite the world

>Where will these aliens come from. Are they Klingons? Romulans? the
>Borg? Darth Vader's storm troopers?

Well, _I_ heard they were giant chickens!

Brett

*SLMW 1.0* ...not a hoax. We are not lab mice trying to take over the world...

THE SHADOW

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Feb 28, 1994, 12:30:30 PM2/28/94
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In article <2kt1j3$3...@mailer.fsu.edu>, efla...@garnet.acns.fsu.edu (Edward Flaherty) writes:
>
> So, John, if that IS your real name, what should we, the ordinary
>ignorant citizens of the world do about this impending invasion? Where
>will these aliens come from. Are they Klingons? Romulans? the Borg?
>Darth Vader's storm troopers?

These invasions will start with Interstellar planet-to-planet salesmen
trying to sell the ever popular SPACE SYRUP(known to cure a--a and other forms
of sa--s-ed!). Then after,300 years of pure hell of sales talk and other
mind blowing events!!! They will come(selling the famous SPACE PANCAKE!)


> Tell me, what's it like to live in your world, to live in a
>constant state of paranoia? What color is the sky in your world? Do they
>let you have crayons to play with where you are?

The world I live in is a wonderful place,with chocolate bunnies running
over roads of gold and small men from Mars playing chess with the Man from
Uncle.
The sky is pink and hazy green, and it rains purple ooze! The nice man in
the white coat says that they'll soon be giving my crayons back!! Then my
world will be perfect with Elvis,JFK and someone who keeps calling himself
God!!!

Signed The Shadow

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Info Sys Operations

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Feb 28, 1994, 2:15:31 PM2/28/94
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In article <105...@cup.portal.com> John_-_...@cup.portal.com writes:
>From: John_-_...@cup.portal.com
>Subject: INFORMATION ABOUT UFOs.
>Date: Sun, 27 Feb 94 07:12:05 PST


A person I know say's J.W is a disinformation man ,and washout in the ufo
world and after I read some of his crap Im begining to agree. and by the way
im a firm beleaver in ufo's and abductions by the gray's ect.


steve deluca

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Feb 28, 1994, 4:42:33 PM2/28/94
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efla...@garnet.acns.fsu.edu (Edward Flaherty) writes:

> John_-_...@cup.portal.com writes:
> > If you haven't already, try to listen to William (Bill) Cooper on WWCR
> > 5.810 mHz on the short wave at midnight-1am EST. He is saying that the
> > "New World Order" will get (or try to get) control of the world by either
> > staging or actually having an invasion from "Outer Space" to unite the worl

> > in a common cause. They (and I use the term generally) have used reverse-
> > engineering from a downed alien craft (probably from Roswell) to make
> > reproductions of Alien crafts. This "reverse-engineering is mentioned in th

> > Popular Science article.
> >
>
> So, John, if that IS your real name, what should we, the ordinary
> ignorant citizens of the world do about this impending invasion? Where
> will these aliens come from. Are they Klingons? Romulans? the Borg?
> Darth Vader's storm troopers?
> Tell me, what's it like to live in your world, to live in a
> constant state of paranoia? What color is the sky in your world? Do they
> let you have crayons to play with where you are?

let's not be too hard on eddy. We were once children too. He could undergo
transformation sometime during his adult life. He may read something other
than the Dick/Jane Post when his vocabulary has progressed beyond " see no
evil Spot, hear no bad dog, speak silly dick." Until that time, we should
console his fears warm milk and cookies.
;-|

John_-_...@cup.portal.com

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Mar 1, 1994, 10:02:16 PM3/1/94
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Subject: Answers From Space Person.

In the past I have mentioned that I have a friend on the Net
who says that he knows a space person who is from our future. I
have asked him to answer the following questions. If you have
any questions I will, if I think they are OK, submit them. Here
are some of the questions and answers that have come back so far.

Subject: answers

JW This is my first question.
>> 1. Are these questions being submitted to one person or a group of
>> intelligences.

One person at a time establishes a consciousness link with the
body as a vehicle to communicate at your level...but since we are
on one consciousness level amongst ourselves we all know the
question at once but let the individual answer. What is learned
by one is shared by all.

>> 2. Is the information being obtained from a physical person or is
>> this being Channeled from a spiritual person.

We are physical and spirit as you are. We are allowed by this person
to use this body to communicate with you in an acceptable form.
We could communicate directly with anyone who is developed enough
and receptive enough to accomplish it. This one is open and receptive
to us.. we are as kin to him. This phenomenon, you refer to as
channeling or trance channeling, we refer to as "transocular
manifestation".

>> 3. Do you and your people believe in God.

We believe in a Supreme Creator or Consciousness.. we did not
create ourselves. We believe in each other.

>> 4. What is you opinion of Jesus Christ.

There are many opinions at your level.. many religions.. many
ideas, thoughts about who is God.. who is right? Jesus was a man
to many.. a myth to many.. a god to many. You must find your own
answers for meanings of life. Your religions of your time are only
interesting reading in ours...just as you read and discover ideas
about ancient religions that you find interesting to read about..
it is the same for us.

>> 5. If you are in the physical form can you do anything that would
>> lead us to believe that you are a person from another planet like
>> disappear and reappear? That's all for now. John Winston.

Is there something you could do that would lead us to believe the
same of you? We are not magicians.. we are people.. we are what you
will become. We do not do what you refer to as "parlor tricks".
The desire to believe or not believe comes from within each one of
you. We are not from another planet, we live on you Earth. Leia is
that name by which it is referred to all.. we accepted it.

=========================================================================

>> I just thought of another question. Can you and your people go back
>> and observe the times of Jesus Christ. Do you sometimes go back and
>> change history. What happen to the your future if you get killed or
>> die back here? John Winston.


JW This my Net Earthling friends answer now.

John; these are interesting questions but what happened to our
attempt at ancient Earth history? I'll ask these but from what I know
of them they can go back and "observe" just about any time. I'll let
them correct me if I'm wrong. Interaction is the key. For example;
you can look at a picture of a country scene but you never feel the
summer breeze, or hear the birds sing, or the rustling of the leaves
in a tree, or the smell of flowers or grasses, or the emotion
experienced by the painter. You see the picture but miss out on the
sensory and emotional detail.

From our conversations they do not directly "meddle" or change
history..they do however talk to us. The verbal interaction
heightens our understanding of ourselves, our world, other worlds,
and each other. This in itself changes history..because I am
silently transformed through my increased knowledge and
understanding. By contact with me, for example, you may gain an
understanding or point-of-view that in the past you never
encountered..you therefore are changed, the path you previously took
is changed(maybe), and the result of accumulated paths make a
different future. Understand?

If they (or any one else) were to be killed out of their time (from
their perspective) it would only impact them at that point as a
loss. Were you to be killed or lost in the future it would have a
greater impact as in that it may create a paradox. As I understand
they can arrive at a point in time instantaneously from
activation of the transport vehicle..and as long as it maintains
its vibrational point-of-back-reference..they can get back home.
(Kinda like running out of gas). If they lose that point of
reference..then they are lost wherever they are. Time and space
keep moving while you move out of it to time travel..you must
keep the reference..understand. If you lose the reference then
you have no known point to go back to..travelling forward becomes
a risk..eg: what if you arrive before you leave? You'll get caught
in a loop.

If you wish we could even have a phone convo on my nickel. Let me
know. I hope this effort to be fruitful and informational for all.
r-----.

JW So that is all we have so far.

John Winston.

Troy Stribling

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Mar 4, 1994, 7:45:45 PM3/4/94
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this sounds like kurt vonnegute's sirens of titan.
i think it worked there.

--
troy stribling
tr...@oraac.gsfc.nasa.gov

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