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Lorenzo Franceschini

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Nov 26, 2002, 12:04:51 PM11/26/02
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In the same site as above, I have this other problem:

They added a laptop with Windows XP Home edition, and I couldn't have it log
to the SCO server. I use VisionFS password (encrypted for Windows) and the
user is the same as before.

I fear this is a FAQ but couldn't find out the solution in this forum, nor
in SCO's TA.

Thank You
Lorenzo


Tony Lawrence

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Nov 26, 2002, 12:39:59 PM11/26/02
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The FAQ is at http://aplawrence.com/SCOFAQ but that isn't in it.
http://asia.cnet.com/itmanager/tech/0,39006407,39039863,00.htm would
seem to imply it could work in some environments, but other places like
http://www.ksu.edu/cns/announce/20020507xphome.html say not.
Personally, I've been avoiding it.

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Giulio Orsero

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Nov 26, 2002, 1:18:06 PM11/26/02
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"Lorenzo Franceschini" <l.francesc...@alfaconta.it> ha scritto:

>They added a laptop with Windows XP Home edition, and I couldn't have it log
>to the SCO server. I use VisionFS password (encrypted for Windows) and the
>user is the same as before.

My experience is in a different environment, but cause may be the same.
I had problems with winxp->samba/linux because winxp would use as login
for the network access something other that the login used to log on to
the winxp box.
So user logged in as "user1", "user1" was ok for samba, but samba logs
showed that winxp was trying logging in as
"user.internet_email.address.com" or some other name related to the
user.
So try forcing winxp to use a known good login name using the "map share
as drive" dialog which allows you to specify "connect as..." and see
what happens.

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Nachman Yaakov Ziskind

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Nov 26, 2002, 9:36:12 PM11/26/02
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Tony Lawrence wrote (on Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 12:39:59PM -0500):
> Lorenzo Franceschini wrote:
> >In the same site as above, I have this other problem:
> >
> >They added a laptop with Windows XP Home edition, and I couldn't have it
> >log
> >to the SCO server. I use VisionFS password (encrypted for Windows) and the
> >user is the same as before.
> >
> >I fear this is a FAQ but couldn't find out the solution in this forum, nor
> >in SCO's TA.
>
> The FAQ is at http://aplawrence.com/SCOFAQ but that isn't in it.
> http://asia.cnet.com/itmanager/tech/0,39006407,39039863,00.htm would
> seem to imply it could work in some environments, but other places like
> http://www.ksu.edu/cns/announce/20020507xphome.html say not.
> Personally, I've been avoiding it.

I have a couple of w/s's with XP home, they use Vision w/o problems. There's
stuff on the Tarantella NG about problems; basically they relate to XP sending
the 'wrong' user name/password.

But the real reason you should avoid XP home at the office is, believe it or
not, it doesn't play nicely with Windows networking(!) E.g., you can't log into
an NT domain with it. The obvious comments will be omitted for brevity.

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crymble

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Nov 27, 2002, 12:11:43 PM11/27/02
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Giulio Orsero <giu...@pobox.com> wrote in message news:<as0dst$n3grb$1...@ID-59665.news.dfncis.de>...

I've seen the same sort of problem - but I think it is something to do
with changing the username in XP - so if the username starts at
johnsmith and then you chage it to be jsmith, from what i can tell XP
will still try to login to vision as johnsmith even though it says
jsmith on the xp screen.

Stuart J. Browne

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Nov 27, 2002, 8:54:10 PM11/27/02
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> > >They added a laptop with Windows XP Home edition, and I couldn't have it
log
> > >to the SCO server. I use VisionFS password (encrypted for Windows) and
the
> > >user is the same as before.
> >
> > My experience is in a different environment, but cause may be the same.
> > I had problems with winxp->samba/linux because winxp would use as login
> > for the network access something other that the login used to log on to
> > the winxp box.
> > So user logged in as "user1", "user1" was ok for samba, but samba logs
> > showed that winxp was trying logging in as
> > "user.internet_email.address.com" or some other name related to the
> > user.
> > So try forcing winxp to use a known good login name using the "map share
> > as drive" dialog which allows you to specify "connect as..." and see
> > what happens.
>
> I've seen the same sort of problem - but I think it is something to do
> with changing the username in XP - so if the username starts at
> johnsmith and then you chage it to be jsmith, from what i can tell XP
> will still try to login to vision as johnsmith even though it says
> jsmith on the xp screen.

XP-Home (unless explicitly told otherwise) has a rather strange (almost
non-existant) concept of usernames.

both Home and Professional will try to use the 'username' that they are
installed with, and take quite a bit of convincing to use another one.

bkx


Bob Meyers

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Nov 29, 2002, 11:43:44 AM11/29/02
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"Stuart J. Browne" <stu...@promed.com.au> wrote in message
news:as3t3p$9jr$1...@perki.connect.com.au...

From Google, Stuart J. Browne wrote back in August:

"That could be because XP is a bit too intelligent for it's own good. Using
the basic interface to change usernames doesn't actually change the
username. You need to go in through "Administrative Tools/Computer
Management", into the "Local Users and Groups". This is the same Interface
that Windows 2000 uses. It's just hidden. You should be able to properly
re-name the user there."

This solved the problem for me customers.

Stuart J. Browne

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Dec 1, 2002, 6:08:51 PM12/1/02
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> > XP-Home (unless explicitly told otherwise) has a rather strange (almost
> > non-existant) concept of usernames.
> >
> > both Home and Professional will try to use the 'username' that they are
> > installed with, and take quite a bit of convincing to use another one.
> >
>
> From Google, Stuart J. Browne wrote back in August:
>
> "That could be because XP is a bit too intelligent for it's own good.
Using
> the basic interface to change usernames doesn't actually change the
> username. You need to go in through "Administrative Tools/Computer
> Management", into the "Local Users and Groups". This is the same Interface
> that Windows 2000 uses. It's just hidden. You should be able to properly
> re-name the user there."
>
> This solved the problem for me customers.

*whee!* :) I haven't tried doing it for so long, I couldn't remember where it
was in XP Home..

bkx


Bob Meyers

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Dec 1, 2002, 7:51:08 PM12/1/02
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"Stuart J. Browne" <stu...@promed.com.au> wrote in message
news:ase4mr$98k$1...@perki.connect.com.au...

> > From Google, Stuart J. Browne wrote back in August:
> >
> > "That could be because XP is a bit too intelligent for it's own good.
> Using
> > the basic interface to change usernames doesn't actually change the
> > username. You need to go in through "Administrative Tools/Computer
> > Management", into the "Local Users and Groups". This is the same
Interface
> > that Windows 2000 uses. It's just hidden. You should be able to
properly
> > re-name the user there."
> >
> > This solved the problem for me customers.
>
> *whee!* :) I haven't tried doing it for so long, I couldn't remember where
it
> was in XP Home..
>

Well I don't really know if this is available to the 'Home' edition - which
should be rejected by the market. I will not support XP Home other than to
tell people to go buy the Professional upgrade. I did that to one customer
who just bought a Dell, for business, that had XP Home. The customer called
Dell and squeaked so loud Dell shipped the upgrade for free.


Juergen Pfann

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Dec 2, 2002, 4:47:02 AM12/2/02
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Bob Meyers wrote:
>
> Well I don't really know if this is available to the 'Home' edition - which
> should be rejected by the market.

I'd love to share your dreams. But please take a look at how
Win95, 98, and ME were "rejected by the market". :-(((.

Juergen

Bob Meyers

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Dec 2, 2002, 9:58:29 PM12/2/02
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"Juergen Pfann" <juerge...@t-online.de> wrote in message
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You misuderstood, or I worded it poorly. I think Win XP *PRO* is the best
work Microsoft has ever done! XP *HOME* is a disgrace, and people buy it
without realizing what is crippled in the HOME edition.


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