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Dave H

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Jan 20, 2003, 7:23:18 AM1/20/03
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In the first week of January there was an article in the
UK newspaper The Daily Telegraph about books that would
be published in 2003. There was an entry in the non-fiction
section that read "Iain Banks (Malt, November, Century),
travelling around Scotland". Century is an imprint of
Random House, but I could not find anything out about the
book on their website, and it does not seem to be listed
in any of the online bookshops that I have searched. Iain
did not mention it in any of the Dead Air publicity interviews
that I read or heard. I emailed his website, and today received
confirmation that it is a non-fiction book by Iain Banks, and
Simon is looking into finding more details for the website.

The article can be found at:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2003/01/05/borob05.xml

BTW, searching for the above book I noticed that a revised
edition of Classic Glamour Photography is to be issued in
March. It has been updated by Duncan Evans. Although the
original author is an Iain Banks and is still credited on
the book, it is not THE Iain Banks (Scottish novelist) that
we usually discuss here.

Cheers,

Dave H.

Adrian Marsh Tupper

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Jan 20, 2003, 1:44:48 PM1/20/03
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david_...@yahoo.com (Dave H) thought for a while and wrote:
> In the first week of January there was an article in the
> UK newspaper The Daily Telegraph about books that would
> be published in 2003. There was an entry in the non-fiction
> section that read "Iain Banks (Malt, November, Century),
> travelling around Scotland".

I couldn't find anything else about this book. It sounds a believable
thing for him to have done. I wonder if it will be a serious book or a
lighthearted one.

Perhaps a TV series?
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Adrian

ianthomson

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Jan 20, 2003, 3:27:05 PM1/20/03
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I reckon he will have done his homework really well for this one. The only
thing is, what will come out on top? My recommendation is 'Springbank' (25
year old) - a totally delicious malt if ever there was one. I suppose we
better watch this space to see what the outcome is. Any other
recommendations for this post?

I just hope his book is not about vinegar!!!!

The Sandsoftime

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Dragi Bonzi Raos

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Ah, we poor souls from southeast of the Continent must make do with mere
Glenmorangie... ;-)

Bonzi

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Richard Webb

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On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:07:43 +0100, "Dragi Bonzi Raos"
<bo...@email.hinet.hr> wrote:

>Ah, we poor souls from southeast of the Continent must make do with mere
>Glenmorangie... ;-)
>
>Bonzi

'mere' surely ... fine stuff.

I am in a Glenfarclas phase at the moment. especially the 15yearold as
Oddbins no longer have the affordable 25yr old under their own label.

Great while it lasted.

Richard Webb

Dan Griliopoulos

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And as an old Oddbins worker, I always had a penchant for sneaking sips of
Lagavullin - more soaked in peat than lindow man.


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Adrian Tupper

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"Dragi Bonzi Raos" <bo...@email.hinet.hr> wrote in message
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> Ah, we poor souls from southeast of the Continent must make do with mere
> Glenmorangie... ;-)

I thought you guys drank (and I know my spelling is cr@p) slivovice.

You should try and find some of the island malts: Laphroaig from Islay or
Talisker from Skye. I reckon you'd pay less for all of them than we do :-(

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Dragi Bonzi Raos

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Jan 21, 2003, 10:56:21 AM1/21/03
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>
> "Dragi Bonzi Raos" <bo...@email.hinet.hr> wrote in message
> news:b0hkv0$pufd3$1...@ID-72093.news.dfncis.de...
> > Ah, we poor souls from southeast of the Continent must make do with
mere
> > Glenmorangie... ;-)
>
> I thought you guys drank (and I know my spelling is cr@p) slivovice.

Ċ ljivovica (the first character is 'S' with hacek - a 'v' shaped
diactitic) or plum brandy is indeed made in continental parts of
Croatia, but it is more popular in neighbouring Serbia and Bosnia. Where
I am from (Adriatic coast) we prefer 'loza' and 'travarica' - stuff
similar to Italian Grappa. But I am not a racist :-)

>
> You should try and find some of the island malts: Laphroaig from Islay
or
> Talisker from Skye. I reckon you'd pay less for all of them than we
do :-(

Hmm, I think I saw Laphroaig in a well stocked shop recently... I will
try to find it!

>
> --
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>
>


Adrian Tupper

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Jan 21, 2003, 12:33:08 PM1/21/03
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"Dragi Bonzi Raos" <bo...@email.hinet.hr> wrote in message
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> "Adrian Tupper" <adrian...@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:b0j4cp$dv9$1...@knossos.btinternet.com...
> >
> > "Dragi Bonzi Raos" <bo...@email.hinet.hr> wrote in message
> > news:b0hkv0$pufd3$1...@ID-72093.news.dfncis.de...
> > > Ah, we poor souls from southeast of the Continent must make do with
> mere
> > > Glenmorangie... ;-)
> >
> > I thought you guys drank (and I know my spelling is cr@p) slivovice.
>
> Sljivovica (the first character is 'S' with hacek - a 'v' shaped

> diactitic) or plum brandy is indeed made in continental parts of
> Croatia, but it is more popular in neighbouring Serbia and Bosnia. Where
> I am from (Adriatic coast) we prefer 'loza' and 'travarica' - stuff
> similar to Italian Grappa.

It can't be as bad as grappa. I have not heard of these drinks. So are
they from the islands?

>But I am not a racist :-)

Of course not. Food and drink is a wonderful way of breaking down cultural
barriers anyway.

>
> >
> > You should try and find some of the island malts: Laphroaig from Islay
> or
> > Talisker from Skye. I reckon you'd pay less for all of them than we
> do :-(
>
> Hmm, I think I saw Laphroaig in a well stocked shop recently... I will
> try to find it!
>

And do tell me how much is is. As long as it isn't too cheap!

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Dragi Bonzi Raos

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>
> "Dragi Bonzi Raos" <bo...@email.hinet.hr> wrote in message
> news:b0jqnh$ptvnd$1...@ID-72093.news.dfncis.de...
> > "Adrian Tupper" <adrian...@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > "Dragi Bonzi Raos" <bo...@email.hinet.hr> wrote in message
> > > news:b0hkv0$pufd3$1...@ID-72093.news.dfncis.de...
> > > > Ah, we poor souls from southeast of the Continent must make do
with
> > mere
> > > > Glenmorangie... ;-)
> > >
> > > I thought you guys drank (and I know my spelling is cr@p)
slivovice.
> >
> > Sljivovica (the first character is 'S' with hacek - a 'v' shaped
> > diactitic) or plum brandy is indeed made in continental parts of
> > Croatia, but it is more popular in neighbouring Serbia and Bosnia.
Where
> > I am from (Adriatic coast) we prefer 'loza' and 'travarica' - stuff
> > similar to Italian Grappa.
>
> It can't be as bad as grappa. I have not heard of these drinks. So
are
> they from the islands?

Islands and, say, 20km wide strip of mainland..

>
> >But I am not a racist :-)
>
> Of course not. Food and drink is a wonderful way of breaking down
cultural
> barriers anyway.

By all means.

> >
> > >
> > > You should try and find some of the island malts: Laphroaig from
Islay
> > or
> > > Talisker from Skye. I reckon you'd pay less for all of them than
we
> > do :-(
> >
> > Hmm, I think I saw Laphroaig in a well stocked shop recently... I
will
> > try to find it!
> >
>
> And do tell me how much is is. As long as it isn't too cheap!

Ah, I am sure it won't be cheap. We have rather steep liquor taxes.

> --
> Adrian

Bonzi


ianthomson

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Jan 21, 2003, 3:06:36 PM1/21/03
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I reckon that we should encourage imb to offer a 'live tasting' session for
willing participants (with arms right up their backs) so that he can truly
portray the 'tastes' of a wider group other than himself.

Ok Iain the gauntlet has been thrown down. What do you think then ??
Sandsoftime

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Anna Feruglio Dal Dan

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Dragi Bonzi Raos <bo...@email.hinet.hr> wrote:

> ...ljivovica (the first character is 'S' with hacek - a 'v' shaped


> diactitic) or plum brandy is indeed made in continental parts of
> Croatia, but it is more popular in neighbouring Serbia and Bosnia. Where
> I am from (Adriatic coast) we prefer 'loza' and 'travarica' - stuff
> similar to Italian Grappa. But I am not a racist :-)

Hey, so you reserved sljivovica for the damn tourists, eh? :-)
Never drank the stuff but my mum still talks about it in dreaming tones.

Lagavulin is the only whiskey I can tolerate, too.

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Robin Parkinson

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Jan 21, 2003, 4:26:49 PM1/21/03
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On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:54:50 +0100, Anna Feruglio Dal Dan wrote:

> Dragi Bonzi Raos <bo...@email.hinet.hr> wrote:
>
>> ...ljivovica (the first character is 'S' with hacek - a 'v' shaped
>> diactitic) or plum brandy is indeed made in continental parts of
>> Croatia, but it is more popular in neighbouring Serbia and Bosnia.
>> Where I am from (Adriatic coast) we prefer 'loza' and 'travarica' -
>> stuff similar to Italian Grappa. But I am not a racist :-)
>
> Hey, so you reserved sljivovica for the damn tourists, eh? :-) Never
> drank the stuff but my mum still talks about it in dreaming tones.
>
> Lagavulin is the only whiskey I can tolerate, too.

If you like Lagavulin, then you might like to try Laphroaig, Caol Ila,
Bruichladdich or some of the other Islay malts.

Also, if you like whisky, you should have a peek at the Scotch Malt Whisky
Society (http://www.smws.co.uk). They bottle single casks of malts from
almost all of the malt scotch distilleries (and one Japanese one!) that
have been in production over the last fifty years or so. They also run
regular tastings and are active in several other countries. The society
bottlings don't come cheap - it's an expensive hobby to take up, but well
worth it, in my opinion. Hic.

I do like the sound of Banksie on malt, though: one of my favourite
writers on my favourite drink.

- Robin.

(obPedantry: although usage has varied over the centuries, current usage
appears to be 'whisky' for scotch, 'whiskey' for Irish and various
American types, by the way.)

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Dragi Bonzi Raos

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"Anna Feruglio Dal Dan" <ada...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> Dragi Bonzi Raos <bo...@email.hinet.hr> wrote:
>
> > ...ljivovica (the first character is 'S' with hacek - a 'v' shaped
> > diactitic) or plum brandy is indeed made in continental parts of
> > Croatia, but it is more popular in neighbouring Serbia and Bosnia.
Where
> > I am from (Adriatic coast) we prefer 'loza' and 'travarica' - stuff
> > similar to Italian Grappa. But I am not a racist :-)
>
> Hey, so you reserved sljivovica for the damn tourists, eh? :-)

Well, I must admit that I can tolerate good 'prepecenica' (sljivovica
distilled twice and aged in mulberry casks). Anyway, all those
fruit-based brandies (sljivovica, Hungarian barack palinka (sp?),
Slovenian viljamovka...) are somewhat similar...

Bonzi

Richard Horton

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On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:54:50 +0100, ada...@spamcop.net (Anna Feruglio
Dal Dan) wrote:

>Dragi Bonzi Raos <bo...@email.hinet.hr> wrote:
>
>> ...ljivovica (the first character is 'S' with hacek - a 'v' shaped
>> diactitic) or plum brandy is indeed made in continental parts of
>> Croatia, but it is more popular in neighbouring Serbia and Bosnia. Where
>> I am from (Adriatic coast) we prefer 'loza' and 'travarica' - stuff
>> similar to Italian Grappa. But I am not a racist :-)
>
>Hey, so you reserved sljivovica for the damn tourists, eh? :-)
>Never drank the stuff but my mum still talks about it in dreaming tones.
>
>Lagavulin is the only whiskey I can tolerate, too.

Lagavulin is awfully good. I have a great weakness for Talisker,
though. Macallan is good, too, though I can't afford the really old
stuff. And Laphroiag (sp?) ...

One could go on, I suppose. Hey, I guess Iain's going to!

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Adrian Tupper

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"Dragi Bonzi Raos" <bo...@email.hinet.hr> wrote in message
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> >
> > And do tell me how much is is. As long as it isn't too cheap!
>
> Ah, I am sure it won't be cheap. We have rather steep liquor taxes.

I sympathise. The tax here is a joke as we produce so much of the stuff.

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BaldiePete

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"Robin Parkinson" <ro...@troutmag.org> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:54:50 +0100, Anna Feruglio Dal Dan wrote:
>
> > Dragi Bonzi Raos <bo...@email.hinet.hr> wrote:
> >
> >> ...ljivovica (the first character is 'S' with hacek - a 'v' shaped
> >> diactitic) or plum brandy is indeed made in continental parts of
> >> Croatia, but it is more popular in neighbouring Serbia and Bosnia.
> >> Where I am from (Adriatic coast) we prefer 'loza' and 'travarica' -
> >> stuff similar to Italian Grappa. But I am not a racist :-)
> >
> > Hey, so you reserved sljivovica for the damn tourists, eh? :-) Never
> > drank the stuff but my mum still talks about it in dreaming tones.
> >
> > Lagavulin is the only whiskey I can tolerate, too.
>
> If you like Lagavulin, then you might like to try Laphroaig, Caol Ila,
> Bruichladdich or some of the other Islay malts.
>
> Also, if you like whisky, you should have a peek at the Scotch Malt Whisky
> Society (http://www.smws.co.uk). They bottle single casks of malts from
> almost all of the malt scotch distilleries (and one Japanese one!) that
> have been in production over the last fifty years or so. They also run
> regular tastings and are active in several other countries. The society
> bottlings don't come cheap - it's an expensive hobby to take up, but well
> worth it, in my opinion. Hic.
>
> I do like the sound of Banksie on malt, though: one of my favourite
> writers on my favourite drink.

Banks is a member of the SMWS - never seen him there though.

BaldiePete


Jan Vanek jr.

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[...]


> Simon is looking into finding more details for the website.

What website? I thought all Banks sites are several years dead.

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and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove
mountains, and have not money, I am nothing.
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Anna Feruglio Dal Dan

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Jan Vanek jr. <jan.va...@seznam.cz> wrote:

r> > Simon is looking into finding more details for the website.


>
> What website? I thought all Banks sites are several years dead.

there's the official one that has a real obvious address, only now I
don't remember it. iainbanks.com or something like that.

Dragi Bonzi Raos

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http://www.iainbanks.net

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Dave H

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> david_...@yahoo.com (Dave H) wrote in message news:<2831f46.03012...@posting.google.com>...
>
> [...]
> > Simon is looking into finding more details for the website.
>
> What website? I thought all Banks sites are several years dead.

Try http://www.iainbanks.net/ which started up last August to
promote Dead Air. The new is a bit out of date, and the forum
has not really taken off, but the pictures of the new mainstream
covers are interesting.

Also you can send questions to ma...@iainbanks.net
and a bloke called Simon may answer you.

Dave H.

Chris Lynas

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> david_...@yahoo.com (Dave H) wrote in message
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>
> [...]
> > Simon is looking into finding more details for the website.
>
> What website? I thought all Banks sites are several years dead.
>

Not _quite_ dead, the odd limb is twitching (admittedly not very often) :-)

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Jan Vanek jr.

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> jan.va...@seznam.cz (Jan Vanek jr.) wrote
> > david_...@yahoo.com (Dave H) wrote

> > [...]
> > > Simon is looking into finding more details for the website.
> >
> > What website? I thought all Banks sites are several years dead.
>
> Try http://www.iainbanks.net/ which started up last August to
> promote Dead Air. The new is a bit out of date, and the forum
> has not really taken off, but the pictures of the new mainstream
> covers are interesting.
>
> Also you can send questions to ma...@iainbanks.net
> and a bloke called Simon may answer you.

Ooh, *THAT* explains it!

I mean, I _did_ learn about IainBanks.net (guess I should not save
myself typing the "www." as the domain requires it - I hate it when
they do) elsewhere in the thread - strike that, now I re-check to see
it was not mentioned there (so I didn't seem as clueless as I was
afraid when I read the first replies), not even in the subject of the
latest 25 threads Google shows as I thought afterwards; yes, now ISTR
it was in the Yahoo groups to which I got when googling to make sure I
can make the claim above (my apologies to Chris Lynas; I had been to
Fastness as well, but let it Freudistically slip from my mind as soon
as I saw that, nice as it is, it didn't fit my text-prejudiced idea of
a "Banks site").

Um, where did I start that sentence? Anyway, I went to the site and
even persevered beyond the index page (after I found that it consists
of a jigsaw of images, some clickable, with no plaintext or ALT tags -
I hate it even more when they do), and since there was no mention of
anybody named Simon, and since it looked as a truly capital-O
official, corporate, publisher-made writer website (now I just went to
confirm this by Whois lookup: for some reason, no entry at ripe.net,
but Network Solutions shows "Registrant: Time Warner Books (UK)" - and
I thought he publishes in Orbit :-) unlike other, no less "official"
writer websites made by fans or at least natural persons (cf. frex
China Mieville vs. Ursula K. Le Guin), I somehow managed to understand
your post in the sense that some Simon, apparently webmaster of an
unofficial, but maintained website, is investigating details.

Although when I look now at your original

> Iain did not mention it [...] I emailed his website, and today received

> confirmation that it is a non-fiction book by Iain Banks, and

> Simon is looking into finding more details for the website.

I really don't understand how I could have mis-read it that way (so,
alas, my cluelessness is umasked at last anyway); I guess I read too
quickly and perceived the second ", and" as a semicolon, i. e. thought
that "is looking" is in parataxis to "received" and not to "that it is
a book", but as for thinking (actually I was not consciously thinking
about it at all, which is exactly the problem) that "the website" was
not a reference to the first instance of the word "website" in the
sentence, but to some other implied website, which would not need to
be specified as it would be known to all a.b.i-b regulars merely as
"The" website - well, I remain boggled.


I am sorry about the confusion. (Still, bloody shame about all the
other sites. :-)

--
Jan Vanek jr.

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