WaR3zKuLT ExPoS3D!
FelonyFAQ
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WaR3zKuLT ExPoS3D!
An Unabridged Reprint of Original Threads
Introduction
CHAPTER 1: Prevent K00K Infiltration
CHAPTER 2: A Server in Maine Won't Work
CHAPTER 3: Keep the K00Ks Gnawing While We Blaze the Trail
CHAPTER 4: Let's SPAM Usenet to Get Money
CHAPTER 5: I'm Not Steve Repsis
CHAPTER 6: The Friendly Iranian with Highspeed Access
CHAPTER 7: You Find The Server, I Don't Have the Time
CHAPTER 8: They'll Blame it on Me, So Just Keep Quiet
CHAPTER 9: Account Terminated, Go Away
CHAPTER 10: I Need a Volunteer, Who'd Like to Get Arrested?
CHAPTER 11: I Can't Pay to Post, I Broke My Tooth on an M&M
Conclusion
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INTRODUCTION
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On 24-03-2001 UFF intercepted 2 posts encrypted to PGP keys of +aK00Kla and
Koaaak. Koaaak is:
Cor...@alt.anonymous.messages
#@.net.to
#@.to
c...@com.com
mister...@twist.net
The subject line was crossed with posts in alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
and found to be the pass phrase key to UNLOCK the threads. All threads were
archived by UFF and are now UNLOCKED and EXPOSED!! Copies of everything you
read below were forwarded to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and other
national and international agencies kept classified for obvious reasons.
From: #@.to
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc.d
Subject: +akula
Keywords: --------~
Summary: --------~
Sender: --------~
Organization: --------~
Message-ID: <t3ambt4d3350i1l4c...@4ax.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548
X-No-Archive: yes
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 15
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 05:04:29 CST
X-Complaints-To: ab...@GigaNews.Com
X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:04:29 GMT
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mail in aam.
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From: c...@com.com
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: ArtSchwartzSucks <----------------------------- THE PASS PHRASE!!
Keywords: there are no keywords
Summary: that about sums it up
Sender: c...@com.com
Organization: an army of one plus a vlonde
Message-ID: <66robt045u8msuva8...@4ax.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548
X-No-Archive: yes
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:14:38 CST
X-Complaints-To: ab...@GigaNews.Com
X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:14:38 GMT
From: mister...@twist.net
Newsgroups: alt.anonymous.messages
Subject: ArtSchwartzSucks <----------------------------- THE PASS PHRASE!!
Keywords: *
Summary: *
Sender: *
Organization: *
Message-ID: <vp1pbt4qnuuathkps...@4ax.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548
X-No-Archive: yes
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 05:43:34 CST
X-Complaints-To: ab...@GigaNews.Com
X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 11:43:34 GMT
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CHAPTER 1: PREVENT K00K INFILTRATION
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From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Info - Very good news indeed!
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 19:57:34 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3ab5df58.12106400619@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
If you think you should have been included on the
message below and weren't - I need a trusted key.
I'm not going to accept any that are newly minted
to prevent KOOK infiltration.
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From: "Dr. Roy Batty®" <royb...@cotse.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion,alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc.d
Subject: Re: Info - Very good news indeed!
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 00:47:14 -0500
Message-ID: <984116834.3...@webmail.cotse.com>
On Thu, 08 Mar 2001 19:57:34 GMT, tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón) wrote:
> If you think you should have been included on the
> message below and weren't - I need a trusted key.
> I'm not going to accept any that are newly minted
> to prevent KOOK infiltration.
Terrible to live in fear, isn't it?
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CHAPTER 2: A SERVER IN MAINE WON'T WORK
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From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: attn: Firewalker re: ATTN:tiburón << - to all
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 19:04:03 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3ae32366.16724105419@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
re: HavenCo. and the _one_ option, ok - we probably
won't go with them unless they are the lowest cost
choice. At $1500/month, we'd want at least 150 people
in on this.
ZeeMan wrote to meganetnews.com and they assured him
they do not log uploads. meganetnews is registered
in Maine, so I don't see how they can dance around
the DMCA and NET Acts which can compel them to log.
If anyone knows more about that service, please tell.
To clarify things a bit, here's how modrated newsgroups
work:
1. The poster posts to her/his server.
2. The server forwards all posts without an "Approved"
header to the moderator's email address.
3. The moderator fills in the Approved header and posts
the cleared messages to her/his server.
To make this anonymous, we need a mailbox outside the
reach of the DCMA and similar laws. We would want to
pay for it on a yearly basis. Ideally we would have
an arrangement like the remailer operators - the news
server the Moderator uses would not TOS the Moderator,
just forward the complaints.
To make this simple, only approved posters would know
how to fill in one of the posting headers. That header
would be stripped by the moderator 'bot. Most likely
this would be the Organization header.
All messages without that special header will simply
disappear, including complaints.
The 'bot would then strip all headers except From,
Newsgroup and Subject and send them to the server,
maybe altnet, but perhaps a better propagating one
(suggestions?).
That account, by routing messages without the right
Organization to the bitbucket sould be somewhat immune
to Denial of Service attacks, and clueless newbie posts.
So the challenge is to set up that mail account with
a provider that can give us enough bandwidth. 500 MB/day
is probably realistic.
I'm sure some of you would like to see this happen in
the next few weeks, but trust me - we only get one shot
to do this right, and we want to make certain that it
can get up and running on auto for a year or more.
I'll be happy if we are in business on July 1, 2001.
Until then, quiet requests posted here - encrypted,
may be filled, with the binaries posted somewhere else.
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From: g <gy...@dont.you.dare.spam>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: attn: Firewalker re: ATTN:tiburón << - to all
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 19:22:13 GMT
Message-ID: <qnaiatkeji1ki8d2q...@4ax.com>
>ZeeMan wrote to meganetnews.com and they assured him
>they do not log uploads. meganetnews is registered
>in Maine, so I don't see how they can dance around
>the DMCA and NET Acts which can compel them to log.
>If anyone knows more about that service, please tell.
meganetnews is a newsfeetz reseller - spam sig? It's not the
cheapest. The cheapest is 1usenet.com. BUT cit-news.com, another
reseller, is in HongKong. Interesting thoughts about resellers that
are overseas...
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CHAPTER 3: KEEP THE K00KS GNAWING WHILE WE BLAZE THE TRAIL
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From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Sunday Update
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:56:55 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3ab69003...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
I looked at alt.binaries.moderated.pinup-art and it
seems they are already doing what I have in mind for
a robomoderator. I'll be contacting the moderator of
that newsgroup this coming week and see what help I
can get from him.
I probably won't be posting much this week, so don't
be alarmed.
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From: TiGGa <noh...@thishive.net>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Sunday Update
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:37:57 GMT
Message-ID: <2janat4p8fk4mbej2...@4ax.com>
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
*cough* could you resend? *cough* :0)
<<<<TiGGa>>>>
"visualize whirled peas"
PGP KEY: 0xC8D182D5
http://www.warezfaq.org/indexx.html
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From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Sunday Update
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 16:09:10 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3ab9a2f5.3302704249@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:37:57 GMT, TiGGa <noh...@thishive.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:56:55 GMT, tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
>strolled into the 100 Acre Wood with a pot of honey and bellowed:
>
>
>*cough* could you resend? *cough* :0)
>
I looked at alt.binaries.moderated.pinup-art and it
seems they are already doing what I have in mind for
a robomoderator. I'll be contacting the moderator of
that newsgroup this coming week and see what help I
can get from him.
I probably won't be posting much this week, so don't
be alarmed.
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From: TiGGa <noh...@thishive.net>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Sunday Update
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:25:24 GMT
Message-ID: <stnnat448nu7nghum...@4ax.com>
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:45:17 GMT, tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
strolled into the 100 Acre Wood with a pot of honey and bellowed:
>On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:27:35 GMT, TiGGa <noh...@thishive.net>
>wrote:
as previously stated. excuse me while i go reign in my mind...
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From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Sunday Update
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:55:46 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3aacd7e5...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:25:24 GMT, TiGGa <noh...@thishive.net> wrote:
>
>On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:45:17 GMT, tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
>strolled into the 100 Acre Wood with a pot of honey and bellowed:
>
>>On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:27:35 GMT, TiGGa <noh...@thishive.net>
>>wrote:
>
>as previously stated. excuse me while i go reign in my mind...
>
That's OK. Paul will be meeting with his "family" this afternoon
and might have it all arranged by then.
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From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Sunday Update
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:05:01 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3aaeda2f...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
That last one was just to keep the KOOKs busy <g>.
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From: Firewalker <no...@never.net>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Sunday Update
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 03:34:30 GMT
Message-ID: <frgoatkfvb1ue7fv8...@4ax.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.26.163.171
X-Complaints-To: ab...@rr.com
That's probably why they did the last sporgery.
Their probably gnawing on their knuckles trying to figure out what
were up to. Heheheh <g>.
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From: TiGGa <noh...@thishive.net>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Sunday Update
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:27:31 GMT
Message-ID: <ffrnat4bolbfnm7q5...@4ax.com>
i am cautiously excited to see how this will all work out. if and
when it comes to fruition, how will *contributions* for the service
be arranged? or is this too far away at this point? Paypal, PO Box,
etc?
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From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Sunday Update
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:25:03 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3ab2e852...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
>i am cautiously excited to see how this will all work out. if and
>>when it comes to fruition, how will *contributions* for the service
>be arranged? or is this too far away at this point? Paypal, PO Box,
>etc?
It's too far away right now. We are blazing the trail to
what may be the future of most binaries groups.
Read
ftp://ftp.isc.org/usenet/control/alt/alt.binaries.moderated.pinup-art.Z
for an idea of what the creation message will look like.
See http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/mod-pitfalls.html too.
Tasks (no particular order):
1. Prototype the mail2news scripts and make sure they are working on a
local box.
2. Find a "no questions asked" provider of email service with sufficient
bandwidth. This provider must either be offshore, or capable of making
the connection look like it is offshore.
3. Find a news injection point, which might just be a couple of news accounts
paid for by the service hosting the moderator. abmp-a looks like it injects
at altnet.
4. Do some testing to be sure we are ready to go.
5. Establish a payment method and pay for the first year, or better, two years.
6. Choose a 100% ANONYMOUS moderator, not me <g>.
7. Go to alt.config and run through the same process as the abcdi0 proposal.
Downside - at least 4 to 6 months to get this running.
Downside - fragile and subject to Denial of Service attacks.
Upside - all posts are 100% anonymized (this is essentially a remailer service)
Upside - NO KOOK disruption or newbie spews at all.
It would be nice if we could set up some of this via Skuz.net, but we'll see.
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CHAPTER 4: LET'S SPAM USENET TO GET MONEY
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From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Another Update...
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:02:29 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3ab910f1...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
Sent a few minutes ago. On the unlikely chance he'll go for
it, we may be up and running sooner rather than later.
See http://www.algebra.com/~ichudov/stump/hosting/
Mr. Chudov,
I and a core group of approximately 30 other people have come
to the conclusion that the only solution to the problems in a
couple of newsgroups is moderation.
The two newsgroups in question are alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc.0-day
and alt.binaries.cd.image.0-day
Currently both newsgroups have been effectively shut down by known
Usenet Abusers. They have harassed posters, repeatedly used HipCrime
tactics, etc.
The combined daily volume for both groups is 100 - 500 MB per day.
We are looking for:
1. A service that can handle that traffic.
2. Moderation scripts that will filter on a header known only to a few,
all other messages will be discarded.
3. All headers except From:, Subject: and Newsgroup: stripped.
now for the tricky part,
4. Free from the legal obligations under the USA's Digital Millenium
Copyright Act, i.e., the moderator setup must be hosted outside of the
reach of the laws of the USA or unable to supply the identity of the poster.
Summary - this service will be in effect an anonymous remailer, accessible only
to people who the moderator provides with the
"key header".
The Charter will be nearly identical to
ftp://ftp.isc.org/usenet/control/alt/alt.binaries.cd.image.0-day.Z
with changes to account for moderation.
We would like to commit and pay for 2 years in advance, and pay you directly as
individuals via credit card or money orders. The group
would not be created until all is paid for.
Propagation to altnet, easynews, giganews, supernews and other
large subscription providers is a must.
Occasional updates to the "key header" are needed in case of compromise.
If you would be at all interested, any or all of the above is open to
negotiation. We realize this is not inexpensive but we are not about to cave
in to KOOKs either. Any suggestions are welcome.
Looking forward to your reply.
Steve, aka "akula"
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From: TiGGa <noh...@thishive.net>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Another Update...
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:35:34 GMT
Message-ID: <75aoatkavrg1iii9n...@4ax.com>
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:02:29 GMT, tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
strolled into the 100 Acre Wood with a pot of honey and bellowed:
<fingers crossed>
<<<<TiGGa>>>>
"visualize whirled peas"
PGP KEY: 0xC8D182D5
http://www.warezfaq.org/indexx.html
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From: Paul LeMassena <n2...@qrz.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Another Update...
Date: 12 Mar 2001 03:55:03 -0600
Message-ID: <bq6patc8k2ll2hgr3...@4ax.com>
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:02:29 GMT, in
alt.binaries.dominion.discussion, tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
said:
[snip]
>
>I and a core group of approximately 30 other people
>
[snip]
Count me <g> in. After seeing the latest SPORGE flood, shelling out
$30 (?) a month looking better & better all the time ;-)
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From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Another Update...
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:58:16 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3aacdbb...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
On 12 Mar 2001 03:55:03 -0600, Paul LeMassena <n2...@qrz.com> wrote:
>Count me <g> in. After seeing the latest SPORGE flood, shelling out
>$30 (?) a month looking better & better all the time ;-)
It is way too early to quote any number for the contribution.
Our startup cost is going to be expensive too, because I want
to lock in 24 months. I can't justify doing this on a month
to month basis.
Using HavenCo. as worst case - that's ~$40,000 for the 2
year period, meaning we need 400+ subscribers to bring the
costs down to a reasonable level. The good thing is that
such a setup would be a nearly unstoppable 1 to many 0-day
distro site, so we might be able to get some release groups
interested.
Another funding route is SPAM. How do you all feel about
1 SPAM *.jpg being attached to each (0/*) ?
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From: Paul LeMassena <n2...@qrz.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Another Update...
Date: 12 Mar 2001 14:32:02 -0600
Message-ID: <rccqat86jctf5tio1...@4ax.com>
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:58:16 GMT, in
alt.binaries.dominion.discussion, tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón),
blew outta his/her mule:
[snip]
>$40,000
::: feeling faint :::
>400+ subscribers
Assume some K00Ks would "sneak in"?
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CHAPTER 5: I'M NOT STEVE REPSIS
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From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Even better news!
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:26:09 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3aaee8d0...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
First off - I'm _not_ Steve Repsis the PHEROMONE SPAMMER (you already
knew that, right?). I am also only 99% sure that Repsis = Batty, so
DO NOT post anything about this in public. This identification is
based on a SPUTUM analysis and data that was obtained by means that we
don't want to disclose.
Now, here's the reply from Igor Chudov and my reply to him.
-----
Hello Steve,
First of all, please do not be offended by my question, but I think that
a while ago, there was a USENET spammer with the last name "Repsis" also,
who was promoting P.H,E'R,O.M.O.N;E,S and such.
I am assuming that that Repsis bears no relation to you, is that correct?
My answers follow.
On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 07:59:20PM -0500, srepsis wrote:
> Mr. Chudov,
>
> I and a core group of approximately 30 other people have come
> to the conclusion that the only solution to the problems in a
> couple of newsgroups is moderation.
>
> The two newsgroups in question are alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc.0-day
> and alt.binaries.cd.image.0-day
Sure.
> Currently both newsgroups have been effectively shut down by known
> Usenet Abusers. They have harassed posters, repeatedly used HipCrime
> tactics, etc.
Sure. Just one thing to clarify, if they forge approve cancels to your
moderated newsgroup, there is not much moderation software can do
about it.
> The combined daily volume for both groups is 100 - 500 MB per day.
>
> We are looking for:
>
> 1. A service that can handle that traffic.
My host in on a fast network, it is a colocated box. So handling that
traffic is no problem. I do, however, pay about $15 per gigabyte of
traffic, and I will have to pass that cost on to you.
Also remember that messages have to come in as well as out, so if
your NG has X MB of traffic per day, my server will have to process
2X per day -- X on the way in, and X on the way out.
> 2. Moderation scripts that will filter on a header known only to a few,
> all other messages will be discarded.
Sure, in fact, I can even delete that header from approved messages.
> 3. All headers except From:, Subject: and Newsgroup: stripped.
Sure.
> now for the tricky part,
> 4. Free from the legal obligations under the USA's Digital Millenium
> Copyright Act, i.e., the moderator setup must be hosted outside of the
> reach of the laws of the USA or unable to supply the identity of the
> poster.
Well, my host is under that US jurisdiction, and so am I. There is not
much I can do about it.
If I am sued, or am threatened credibly with a lawsuit (like, by BSA),
I will shut down the service as I cannot defend myself from copyright
infringement charges.
Also, I think, as a provider, I should not be aware of copyright
violations, otherwise I have to take action. I know that you are
not going to violate copyrights, but I will not go out of my way
looking for copyright infringements.
> Summary - this service will be in effect an anonymous remailer,
> accessible only to people who the moderator provides with the
> "key header".
I do not require my customers to identify themselves. I do not
know many of my customers's real world identities, and as long
as I get paid and can reach them by email, I could not care less.
> The Charter will be nearly identical to
> ftp://ftp.isc.org/usenet/control/alt/alt.binaries.cd.image.0-day.Z
> with changes to account for moderation.
>
> We would like to commit and pay for 2 years in advance, and pay you
> directly as individuals via credit card or money orders. The group
> would not be created until all is paid for.
Sure.
> Propagation to altnet, easynews, giganews, supernews and other
> large subscription providers is a must.
altnet is my injection site, it works fine. All messages propagate
from there.
> Occasional updates to the "key header" are needed in case of compromise.
>
> If you would be at all interested, any or all of the above is open to
> negotiation. We realize this is not inexpensive but we are not about to
> cave in to KOOKs either. Any suggestions are welcome.
sure, we need to come to a good agreement on the terms.
-----
My reply -
Igor,
The 'real' Steve Repsis is the person who has been harassing me
in Usenet for nearly 3 years, and as a swipe at him, I've taken
this email address. Yes, he is the pheromones/TV Descrambler/
Virgorex guy.
I'd love to just set things up with you today, but - I'll be straight
up about this. Repsis and his band of newsgroup disruptors will do
everything they can to get any moderated newsgroup shut down on piracy
charges, and given his hatred of moderation in any form, he will go
after you too. It's essential that the moderator box be located in a
domain that is relatively immune from legal attack. Yugoslavia or
Slovakia are the consensus nations of choice.
We can either pay you to hunt down a host, or we can find a host that
meets your specifications, and then pay you to set us up, or anything
else you might suggest. The main thing is to set something up for at
least 2 years that cannot easily be knocked down by a Usenet KOOK.
Thanks for your speedy reply,
Steve
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From: Paul LeMassena <n2...@qrz.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Even better news!
Date: 12 Mar 2001 14:25:03 -0600
Message-ID: <asbqat04vhbbed428...@4ax.com>
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:26:09 GMT, in
alt.binaries.dominion.discussion, tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón),
blew outta his/her mule:
[snip]
>$15 per gig
*ouch*
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From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Even better news!
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:15:55 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3aad3a2...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
Just some comments on the numbers.
$15/GB is reasonable. That's ~350 MB UUE
Assuming we can have a cap put in place,
that fixes our costs, and makes sure we
a careful with our posts.
I am concerned that a cablemoron could eat
up the entire day's GB in a few minutes.
We will need some assurance that unapproved
posts that are dropped are not charged, or
are charged less.
At $15/day * 30 days = $450/month
Add fees of $50 month on top.
Total = $24,000 for 2 years.
Certainly better than HavenCo. for $1500/month.
I don't have much money, but I can pitch
in $100, so that leaves 239 people to go <g>.
But we are still stuck with the legal problem,
and I'll have to see what Igor suggests.
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From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Even better news!
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:01:09 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3aae45e3...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
here's Igor's answer...
-----
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 11:20:22AM -0500, srepsis wrote:
> Quoting Igor Chudov <ich...@Algebra.Com>:
>
[snip]
>
> I'd love to just set things up with you today, but - I'll be straight
> up about this. Repsis and his band of newsgroup disruptors will do
> everything they can to get any moderated newsgroup shut down on piracy
> charges, and given his hatred of moderation in any form, he will go
> after you too. It's essential that the moderator box be located in a
> domain that is relatively immune from legal attack. Yugoslavia or
> Slovakia are the consensus nations of choice.
Fair enough, I would not want to be in some stupid legal trouble.
> We can either pay you to hunt down a host, or we can find a host that
> meets your specifications, and then pay you to set us up, or anything
> else you might suggest. The main thing is to set something up for at
> least 2 years that cannot easily be knocked down by a Usenet KOOK.
Sounds good. I suggest that you find yourself a host, and I can set up
STUMP to your spec (including new things such as the secret password
keyword, etc to the extent that you mentioned it). Also, to prevent
hacking, I recommend that you get a colocated linux box in Serbia or
Russia (not a bad choice) or whatever, and I can help you secure it from
hackers, to some extent (remove unwanted services, install SSH etc). Since
there seems to be some large degree of customization, I will charge $500
for it. But to finalize the price, we need to make sure we have a mutual
understanding of what is to be done.
It is my understanding that my work will not be used for copyright
infringement purposes, of course.
Also, I have to warn you to make sure that the moderation relays
(moderators.isc.org) will be able to handle this much traffic. As you
no doubt know, all messages posted to mod newsgroups are relayed via
one of the moderators.isc.org relays to the actual moderator address.
I would hate you guys to go through the trouble of setting it all up,
to only discover that the relays will not allow your newsgroup because
of limitations on their bandwidth. I am not sure if there are any real
high volume moderated newsgroups out there.
igor
-----
My reply was that we'd look into the isc.org mail volume issue,
but I suspect we won't be able to go moderated. Could someone
please contact them just to make sure?
So on to plan "b". Let's find a server that will shield us.
Could someone look up that newsfeeds reseller that gypsy
mentioned in Hong Kong?
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From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: ATTN:tiburón <- to all
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 03:29:17 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3ab48fc8...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
There are still a couple of paths to take at this point,
since it seems that moderation won't work out due to
isc.org being a point of service disruption as the email
forwarder.
We can set up a news server to act as an anonymous remailer,
or, we can hunt down a warez friendly server.
Path 1 - anyone and everyone is welcome to help:
Hunting down a warez friendly server probably begins at
http://www.yahoo.com/ -> drill down in the internet service
provider section, and then go to the regional or country
directories.
Here's a sample contact email:
-----
To: sales@
Subject: Usenet Service Inquiry
I am seeking an account with a news service provider
outside the USA to avoid harassment. I would like to
know if you are willing to provide me with an account.
I do not intend to spend much time downloading, but I
may post as many as 100 MB per day of attachments into
a few alt.binaries.* newsgroups.
If you can provide me with an account, I would like
to read your Acceptable Use and Privacy Policies.
It is very important that my identity not be divulged
without my consent.
-----
I don't have the domain country codes handy, but we
are looking for *.yu (Serbia), *.sk (Slovakia), etc.
*.ru (Russia) is also acceptable.
Path 2 - this is more a job for me or someone with connections:
We find a friendly person with highspeed access in
*.cn, *.ru or where ever, have them set up DNews,
and then they can pay for ONE account to connect to
one of the service providers. The worst that will
happen is a TOS, and our contact can just jump to
another server.
Path 2a:
We get a shell account on a server outside the USA
and run the DNews box ourselves.
_______________________________________________________________________________
From: Paul LeMassena <n2...@qrz.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: ATTN:tiburón <- to all
Date: 13 Mar 2001 00:32:10 -0600
Message-ID: <tffratsuf507bhhop...@4ax.com>
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 03:29:17 GMT, in
alt.binaries.dominion.discussion, tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón),
blew outta his/her mule:
[snip]
Any consideration to using an Iranian ISP/news-provider? Certainly
<g> they are not subject to, nor would they give a f***, about the
DCMA (or whatever its' acronym)?
_______________________________________________________________________________
From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: ATTN:tiburón <- to all
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:17:44 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3aba37c2...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
re: Vrodok's query about Iranian servers.
Something to keep in mind is propagation.
EUNet is the main european backbone, and
is only a few hops from the USA based
newsfarms.
I cannot give you the name of a single
Iranian service provider. If you find
one, they may be willing to go along on
a purely ideological basis, but I kinda
doubt that. Many of the Iranian middle
and upper class see right through the
propaganda, and seek closer ties to the
west.
Hong Kong or Taiwan or Korea are all
possibilities, but propagation may be
very poor - if anyone remembers my VB5
post from Jan. 1997, it took two weeks to
propagate from Korea, even though it
only took an hour to post.
re: Like's query on Lady Lidia
Anyone can feel free to contact her.
I recommend only one person. See her
site for her email address.
Ask her if she can help with providing a box
that has a 10+ mbps ethernet connection. In
return she'll get a steady flow of warez and
financial help if needed to establish accounts
on one or more USA based news servers.
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From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: All - timetable
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:10:33 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3ab0da0...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
This is just to keep the KOOKs guessing <g>.
http://wip.x2.nu/ is one of the better german
warez reporting websites and has a lot of links.
_______________________________________________________________________________
From: Paul LeMassena <n2...@qrz.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: All - timetable
Date: 15 Mar 2001 14:12:03 -0600
Message-ID: <d782btkhqgsg48e75...@4ax.com>
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:10:33 GMT, in
alt.binaries.dominion.discussion, tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón),
blew outta his/her mule:
[snip]
Okay; when <g> do I begin to start saving up my coin for the server?
_______________________________________________________________________________
From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: All - timetable
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:15:55 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3ab82f89...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
>Okay; when <g> do I begin to start saving up my coin for the server?
The whole point of this is to make this a joint effort. I'm very busy
right now with several projects, and I just don't have the time to go
off contacting people and service providers.
So - this gets rolling when one of you finds either a server to post
through, or someone who will host a DNews box for us. We can then
talk money and how to pay.
_______________________________________________________________________________
From: ledgerDeMain <ma...@me.not.invalid>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: All - timetable
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:29:50 -0800
Message-ID: <lDMp6g2btopbl8abrq...@4ax.com>
>>Okay; when <g> do I begin to start saving up my coin for the
>>server?
>
>The whole point of this is to make this a joint effort. I'm very
>busy right now with several projects, and I just don't have the time
>to go off contacting people and service providers.
>
>So - this gets rolling when one of you finds either a server to post
>through, or someone who will host a DNews box for us. We can then
>talk money and how to pay.
Greetz ..
Just dropped by to let y'all know I'm still around <g>. RL demands
are high at the moment, but I'm still checking when/where I can.
G'day .. good luck.
--
ledgerDeMain
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From: amarantha <amar...@invalid.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: All - timetable
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:19:32 -0700
Message-ID: <0pi4btkrhs3tlhduu...@4ax.com>
All,
Here is another fairly good site for run of the mill warez.
By the by, I noticed that Kbucky and Roy
finally reached Frogbutt's BJ quota to get
a CMSG for their own vanity group.
alt.binaries.menwhoswallow <bg>
Take care all,
Amarantha
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From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Head's Up
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:04:48 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3ac72ad1.5135050339@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
I have a contact at Mabry Software, which
many of you know is fiercely anti-piracy.
He sent me email this morning telling me
that they are going after Schwartzeneger.
They went after s0x in 1999, so you all
need to be very careful about posting their
stuff.
_______________________________________________________________________________
From: ledgerDeMain <ma...@me.not.invalid>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Head's Up
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:21:56 -0800
Message-ID: <lDMb3f4btclf4rpia6...@4ax.com>
In article <3f3ac72ad1.5135050339@news.sharks.plc.ltd>,
tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón) wrote:
>I have a contact at Mabry Software, which
>many of you know is fiercely anti-piracy.
>He sent me email this morning telling me
>that they are going after Schwartzeneger.
>They went after s0x in 1999, so you all
>need to be very careful about posting their
>stuff.
Greetz tiburón ..
Thanks for the warning. Has anyone passed this on to Schwartzeneger
yet?
G'day .. good luck.
--
ledgerDeMain
_______________________________________________________________________________
From: BoNeYaRd<BoNe...@crypt.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Head's Up
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:29:43 -0600
Message-ID: <rff4btsdqpe4p9p7a...@4ax.com>
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:21:56 -0800, ledgerDeMain
<ma...@me.not.invalid> wrote:
>
>In article <3f3ac72ad1.5135050339@news.sharks.plc.ltd>,
>tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón) wrote:
>
>>I have a contact at Mabry Software, which
>>many of you know is fiercely anti-piracy.
>>He sent me email this morning telling me
>>that they are going after Schwartzeneger.
>>They went after s0x in 1999, so you all
>>need to be very careful about posting their
>>stuff.
>
>Greetz tiburón ..
>
>Thanks for the warning. Has anyone passed this on to Schwartzeneger
>yet?
>
>G'day .. good luck.
>--
> ledgerDeMain
>
>
I think he wouldn't believe it coming from one of us. The only way we
would have of warning him (at least for me) would be in a public
forum. If one of us were to do this, we would most likely be accused
of "ratting him out". If anything happens to him, Batty will blame us
anyway, or at least blame akula.
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From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Head's Up
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:37:05 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3ab24125...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
>Thanks for the warning. Has anyone passed this on to Schwartzeneger
>yet?
I'm sure st...@netcene.com will let him know, probably
with a "502: Authentication Required" error.
There is no point in telling him - he won't listen
and/or will try to blame this on me. Just keep quiet
about it.
On a similar topic, the guy who posted OfficeXP got
nailed by Microsoft, and MS is pouring over their
logs to find out who leaked it into warez circulation.
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From: amarantha <amar...@invalid.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Head's Up
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:41:31 -0700
Message-ID: <v1k4btsoglho0qjcs...@4ax.com>
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Thanks for the news,
I agree...with all the hubaloo over Schwarz',
if anything is said it will be bound to come
back to you...given his 0-day postings, ISO
complaints etc.
If indeed Mabry has already decided to pursue
prosecution, they have his ISP logs and any
warning given would be useless anyway.
A.
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From: ledgerDeMain <ma...@me.not.invalid>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Head's Up
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:31:50 -0800
Message-ID: <lDMcqk4bt0no7ha87k...@4ax.com>
In article <3f3ab24125...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>,
tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón) wrote:
>I'm sure st...@netcene.com will let him know, probably
>with a "502: Authentication Required" error.
>
>There is no point in telling him - he won't listen
>and/or will try to blame this on me. Just keep quiet
>about it.
>
Greetz tiburón ..
No problem, I was not volunteering. Just thought if anyone knew how
to contact Schwartzeneger privately, which I do not, that they might
willing to do so. Wouldn't protect him from a tos, but it might help
him prepare in case someone comes a-knocking on his door. I wish no
RL ill-will toward Schwartzeneger.
You do realize that if any of the AAF (anti-akula forces, I got tired
of UFF <g>) posters are tos'd that they'll blame you anyway?
>On a similar topic, the guy who posted OfficeXP got
>nailed by Microsoft, and MS is pouring over their
>logs to find out who leaked it into warez circulation.
Ouch. These anti-piracy types are really starting to lose their sense
of humor. I certainly hope they don't find the initial leak.
As of now, I've rec'd exactly zero response to the emails I've sent.
So thus far, I guess I won't have any need to pickup slovic as a
second language <g>. I will continue searching as time permits.
G'day .. good luck.
--
ledgerDeMain
_______________________________________________________________________________
From: amarantha <amar...@invalid.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Head's Up
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:21:22 -0700
Organization: none
Message-ID: <hrd7bt8j13darcl6q...@4ax.com>
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:31:50 -0800, ledgerDeMain <ma...@me.not.invalid>
wrote:
>On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:31:50 -0800, ledgerDeMain
><ma...@me.not.invalid> wrote:
>
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>In article <3f3ab24125...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>,
>tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón) wrote:
>
>>I'm sure st...@netcene.com will let him know, probably
>>with a "502: Authentication Required" error.
>>
>>There is no point in telling him - he won't listen
>>and/or will try to blame this on me. Just keep quiet
>>about it.
>>
>Greetz tiburón ..
>
>No problem, I was not volunteering. Just thought if anyone knew how
>to contact Schwartzeneger privately, which I do not, that they might
>willing to do so. Wouldn't protect him from a tos, but it might help
>him prepare in case someone comes a-knocking on his door. I wish no
>RL ill-will toward Schwartzeneger.
>
>You do realize that if any of the AAF (anti-akula forces, I got tired
>of UFF <g>) posters are tos'd that they'll blame you anyway?
>
>>On a similar topic, the guy who posted OfficeXP got
>>nailed by Microsoft, and MS is pouring over their
>>logs to find out who leaked it into warez circulation.
>
>Ouch. These anti-piracy types are really starting to lose their sense
>of humor. I certainly hope they don't find the initial leak.
>
>As of now, I've rec'd exactly zero response to the emails I've sent.
>So thus far, I guess I won't have any need to pickup slovic as a
>second language <g>. I will continue searching as time permits.
>
>G'day .. good luck.
>--
> ledgerDeMain
>
>
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He does have that pira...@hotmail.com addy in his headers.
Someone with an anonymous e-mail account could mail him and
drop a pointer in 0-day. I think that might be the best option.
A.
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From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: another approach...
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 22:44:17 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3abee728...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
I've been looking into tapping directly into the
newsstream, and this URL came up:
http://www.usenet-se.net/peering/
I don't have the bandwidth to run DNews, but if
one of you is on cable or can run it off an ethernet
connection, this might be an approach worth considering.
Essentially, you'd be the newsadmin and handle the
complaints with "Account terminated, go away..."
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From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: this looks promising...
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 23:25:22 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3ac0ef4a...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
From http://www.usenet-se.net/peering/
This server
news-hub.siol.net Slovenia, Europe *, max size up to 250K Anywhere Stats
available at http://post.siol.net/stats/news/ news-...@siol.net
and this one
newsfeed.rt.ru (#122 on Freenix) Moscow, Russia all anywhere [no data]
newsm...@rt.ru
both look like promising candidates for news server peering.
I know siol.net shows up in some of the alt.binaries.cracks
paths.
Here's what we need a volunteer for:
1. Set up DNews on your own box - not very hard.
2. Do some testing to make sure you know how to use it.
3. When confident you can configure the box, contact the
newsmasters above and request to peer with them.
4. Send some test messages and we will examine the results.
IF that works out, then we can all connect to your box, and
then your box relays the messages to the rest of Usenet via
the servers above (and maybe others as well).
You can strip all originating data with DNews and preload a bogus path,
but we probably ought to set up a *.to email address to handle complaints.
Any takers? I don't have the bandwidth, but I will help with
everything else.
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From: ledgerDeMain <ma...@me.not.invalid>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: this looks promising...
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:08:10 -0800
Message-ID: <lDM8uv7bt0v2q6iick...@4ax.com>
In article <3f3ac0ef4a...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>,
tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón) wrote:
>Any takers? I don't have the bandwidth, but I will help with
>everything else.
Greetz tiburón ..
Could you explain a bit? (for us laymen <g>)
Bandwidth needed? dsl? cable?
Hardware & software requirements?
Single box & location? or Multiple boxes & locations?
Risks involved for person(s) running the box(es)?
I suppose costs are negotiated?
Oh, and could you answer every other questions I didn't think to ask?
<g>
Really though, this does sound interesting.
G'day .. good luck.
--
ledgerDeMain
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From: BoNeYaRd<BoNe...@crypt.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: this looks promising...
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 19:45:12 -0600
Message-ID: <f748bt0ab9fji219v...@4ax.com>
On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 23:25:22 GMT, tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
wrote:
>From http://www.usenet-se.net/peering/
>
>This server
>
>news-hub.siol.net Slovenia, Europe *, max size up to 250K Anywhere
>Stats available at http://post.siol.net/stats/news/
>news-...@siol.net
>
>and this one
>
>newsfeed.rt.ru (#122 on Freenix) Moscow, Russia all anywhere [no
>data] newsm...@rt.ru
>
>both look like promising candidates for news server peering.
>I know siol.net shows up in some of the alt.binaries.cracks
>paths.
>
>Here's what we need a volunteer for:
>
>1. Set up DNews on your own box - not very hard.
>2. Do some testing to make sure you know how to use it.
>3. When confident you can configure the box, contact the
>newsmasters above and request to peer with them.
>4. Send some test messages and we will examine the results.
>
>IF that works out, then we can all connect to your box, and
>then your box relays the messages to the rest of Usenet via
>the servers above (and maybe others as well).
>
>You can strip all originating data with DNews and preload a bogus
>path, but we probably ought to set up a *.to email address to handle
>complaints.
>
>Any takers? I don't have the bandwidth, but I will help with
>everything else.
A couple questions
1. Can this be shared among several people or done on a rotating
basis, say a week or a month at a time?
2. How will this affect the "relay box" so far as bandwidth? I have
cable, but my upload speed is limited to 45 kB/sec. If several people
are trying to "post" via my box, I would think that posting speeds
would be very slow.
If it seems that I really don't know what would be involved in this,
it's because I don't.
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From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: this looks promising...
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 02:54:11 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3acb1f98...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
To follow up to you and ledgerDeMain on this,
>A couple questions
>
>1. Can this be shared among several people or done on a rotating
>basis, say a week or a month at a time?
>
That might be a problem with the people with whom we wish to peer.
>2. How will this affect the "relay box" so far as bandwidth? I have
>cable, but my upload speed is limited to 45 kB/sec. If several people
>are trying to "post" via my box, I would think that posting speeds
>would be very slow.
>
DNews will act as a buffer, so that isn't a problem.
300 MB/day is about 2 hours of your bandwidth, and
for you it would be downloading for the incoming posts.
It would be another 2 hours to shoot the files out to
the peer.
Ideally, it should be run off a box on a university network
on an "unapproved" IP, but we can't be too choosy.
>If it seems that I really don't know what would be involved in this,
>it's because I don't.
Well, it's something I'm learning as well. I may test it
out on my own with just alt.binaries.cracks and siol.net
with me as the only user.
Peering implies both taking and injecting, but we really
just want the injection part.
The person running the box gets the advantage of getting 100%
of what's being posted. The downside is if siol.net or whomever
coughs up your identity. The box should definitely be encrypted
using Bestcrypt or a similar disk encryption scheme.
I'll do some checking with the local warezhounds. I might be
able to find a @Home user to whom I can give a running setup.
The alternative would be to pay for a shell account and run it
from there.
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From: tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Tuesday update
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:17:44 GMT
Organization: Sharks, Plc. LTD
Message-ID: <3f3ab9f11...@news.sharks.plc.ltd>
I'm reaching the opinion that we should
consider chartering a new group when
posting resumes. The charter for this
group would be nearly identical to the
abcdi0 charter.
Over the next several days, I am going to
get DNews up and running, and then invite
a few of you to connect to it and discuss
things in a local newsgroup that will be
confined to my server.
Assuming that works out well, I'll then
contact siol.net and some of the others
listed at Freenix requesting a pseudo-
peering arrangement (feeding only/no
sucking) for an anonymous remailer.
I'll then run anonymity tests, and then
start some small scale posts. Assuming
that works, I'll then need help in tranferring
the setup to a faster connection, possibly
even donating equipment to someone with a
cable modem who lives within driving distance,
but of course, someone with a 10mbps ethernet
connection would be a better choice.
I may be offline for a couple of days soon,
so don't think anything dire has happened <g>.
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From: Paul LeMassena <n2...@qrz.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.dominion.discussion
Subject: Re: Tuesday update
Date: 23 Mar 2001 22:55:02 -0600
Message-ID: <lc9obt8ctn0avjb0g...@4ax.com>
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:17:44 GMT, in
alt.binaries.dominion.discussion, tiburón...@sharks.plc.ltd (tiburón),
blew outta his/her mule:
>
>I'm reaching the opinion that we should
>consider chartering a new group
After alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc.0-day, what name could possibly be
more descriptive/to-the-point? No chance of getting it "knocked" off
servers, then, @ some later time, brought back as Moderated?
> when
>posting resumes. The charter for this
>group would be nearly identical to the
>abcdi0 charter.
>
>Over the next several days, I am going to
>get DNews up and running, and then invite
>a few of you to connect to it and discuss
>things in a local newsgroup that will be
>confined to my server.
>
>Assuming that works out well, I'll then
>contact siol.net and some of the others
>listed at Freenix requesting a pseudo-
>peering arrangement (feeding only/no
>sucking) for an anonymous remailer.
In other words.... outgoing-only (no "reading" msg's)?
>
>I'll then run anonymity tests, and then
>start some small scale posts. Assuming
>that works, I'll then need help in tranferring
>the setup to a faster connection, possibly
>even donating equipment to someone with a
>cable modem who lives within driving distance,
>but of course, someone with a 10mbps ethernet
>connection would be a better choice.
After getting a *very* nasty chipped tooth (no, didn't buy <g>; was
crunching on an M & M almond), I suspect the bill for fixing will be
a *bit* high. Might not be able to contrib very much,
financial-wise.....
>
>I may be offline for a couple of days soon,
>so don't think anything dire has happened <g>.
>
Heavens' to Murgatroyd ;-)
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From: observer <obse...@nowhere.com>
Subject: Attn: Akula
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 12:51:25 -0500
Organization: Altopia Corp. - Usenet Access - http://www.altopia.com
Message-ID: <hc9sbtg1v1nj57t9b...@4ax.com>
Akula: I am neither a friend or an enemy. I merely disagree with you. Until
now, that is. Batty has you: It's game, set and match. The thread he has
posted is undeniably yours. I have gone back into dominion and looked at
them and they are atributable to you and your group. You talk about evading
the law and how to do it. There is a name for that, but I'm not an attorney
so I won't go there. I don't see any point in going into how you manipulate
your followers into participating in your schemes. You did it with Vrodok a
year ago and now you are getting them involved in your latest escapade.
This time however, there are legal implications. I don't think that you can
any longer be reasoned with. Your obsession has blinded you to reason and
logic. I am posting this so that your followers can consider what steps
they can take to protect themselves. If I were in their shoes, I would seek
help from competent legal counsel. Were I you, I would disappear from
Usenet.
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