Debian MIA check
Ben Collins
> inactive Debian developers. The list of developers was generated by
> looking first at all maintainers who didn't have a source package
> signed by (one of) their key(s) in unstable and then excluding from
> that anyone who had been seen (with a signed message) by echelon in
> the last 6 months.
Nice job. It's about time we got this under control.
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Joey Hess
> Jay Kominek <jkom...@debian.org>
> Nathan Myers <n...@debian.org>
I happen to know of a machine Jay logged into yesterday, so I have emailed
him at that account. I have mailed Nathan too, though he seems to be in
the middle of a job change and move.
My, a lot of folks I hate to see go, but James has done an excellent job.
Oh and James, would you mind listing those who retired to emeritus?
Here is a list of packages in unstable maintained by people on James's
lists. May not be complete, but I grepped for names and for emails
seperately so probably found most of them.
Mail bounces:
Chris Reed
xitalk
Dale James Thompson
postilion
No reply:
Andrew Feinberg
gnap
Craig Brozefsky
cl-uncommonsql-oracle
cl-imho
cl-local-time
cl-local-time-db
cl-odcl
cl-uncommonsql
cl-uncommonsql-mysql
cl-uncommonsql-postgresql
libapache-mod-webapp
Greg Olszewski
vtun
Jean Pierre LeJacq
cracklib-runtime
cracklib2
cracklib2-dev
wn
Joost Kooij
xbat
Joost Witteveen
menu (but Bill Allombert is a co-maintainer)
Justin Maurer
swisswatch
Karl Bartel
black-box
penguin-command
Luis Francisco Gonzalez
tcsh
tcsh-i18n
tcsh-kanji
urlview
xgammon
Matthew Schlegel
escm
gauche
jfbterm
Pavel Tcholakov
hylafax-client
hylafax-doc
hylafax-server
R. Garth Wood
slocate
Ted Whalen
wm2
Tor Slettnes
mindi
mondo
smail
xcdroast
yard
zmailer
zmailer-ssl
Vaidhyanathan Mayilrangam
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Petter Reinholdtsen
> On the 12th March I sent out a maintainer ping to 191 possibly
> inactive Debian developers. The list of developers was generated by
> looking first at all maintainers who didn't have a source package
> signed by (one of) their key(s) in unstable and then excluding from
> that anyone who had been seen (with a signed message) by echelon in
> the last 6 months.
Very good to see some active work trying to detect missing
developers. :)
> o 90 people didn't reply within the 2 month deadline[2].
If you haven't already done so, please send each of them them an email
telling them that their debian maintainer status is disabled.
I do not know how your first email was phrased, but some of them might
have put it aside and forgot to reply to it. They should get an email
telling them about the consequenses, and that their debian maintainer
status is disabled because of this.
This would make sure they know what happened, if they still recieve
their email.
H. S. Teoh
[snip]
> Joost Kooij
> xbat
[snip]
FWIW, Joost responded to me last Nov (gee, has it been that long ago
already? :-/) for NMU'ing xbat. If he still fails to respond, I could take
over the package.
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Branden Robinson
> On the 12th March I sent out a maintainer ping to 191 possibly
> inactive Debian developers. The list of developers was generated by
> looking first at all maintainers who didn't have a source package
> signed by (one of) their key(s) in unstable and then excluding from
> that anyone who had been seen (with a signed message) by echelon in
> the last 6 months.
Excellent! I for one am very glad to see this being worked on.
> Of the 191 pings were sent out:
> o 34 people's ping bounced[1].
> o 28 people replied asking to be retired.
> o 29 people replied with various different responses.
> o 10 people replied who were active.
> o 90 people didn't reply within the 2 month deadline[2].
Would it be possible to get a list of people in the middle three
categories? (Or is that forthcoming?) I presume that for the retirees,
at least, orphaning of their packages is in order.
> There will be 4 states for any given account in LDAP:
>
> o [default]
> o Emeritus
> o Disabled
> o Memorial
>
> The [default] state is what the majority of accounts will be in; I
> don't want to call it 'active' because that would be misleading.
Maybe "operational"?
> So, the 34 people who's email bounced and 90 people who didn't reply
> will have their account set to the 'disabled' status. The 28 people
> who asked to be retired will be set to 'emeritus'. If you know how to
> reach any of the people listed in [1] and [2] below, please feel free
> to contact them and get them to reply to w...@debian.org.
Is there a mnemonic for that? I.e., does "wat" stand for something?
> Finally, this is only the start of what will hopefully be an ongoing
> process; further pings based on other criteria are planned and also
> the results of Martin's MIA work will be acted on.
Thanks again.
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Fielder George Dowding
I note that Yasuhiro Take (ta...@debian.org) is not listed in your
missive. He is maintainer for the Defoma package which has a large
number of bug reports some of which have apparently been corrected
by NMU's but not closed. There is a recent critical bug (#181749, 82
days old) which the submitter has proposed a correction.
As a result of the lack of action on Mr. Take's part regarding these
outstanding bug reports, the Defoma package has been listed as
orphaned (#180188) before the critical bug (#181749) was submitted.
I am attempting to step up to the plate, and I am experiencing a
high level of difficulties unravelling the many instructions for
becominig a maintainer as well as groking the source code (perl with
a bash or sh script against which bug #181749 has been filed).
Perhaps you could include Mr. Take in your attempt to clarify
package maintainer status.
Cheerio! fgd. kl7fhx
On Tue, 13 May 2003 14:41:49 +0100
James Troup <ja...@nocrew.org> wrote:
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>
> Hi,
>
> On the 12th March I sent out a maintainer ping to 191 possibly
> inactive Debian developers. The list of developers was generated
> by looking first at all maintainers who didn't have a source
> package signed by (one of) their key(s) in unstable and then
> excluding from that anyone who had been seen (with a signed
> message) by echelon in the last 6 months.
snip
>
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Rene Engelhard
[ the following assumes the packages being orphaned ]
Joey Hess wrote:
> Luis Francisco Gonzalez
> tcsh
> tcsh-i18n
> tcsh-kanji
uuh, tcsh is an OpenOffice.org Build-Dependency....
I wouldn't take it because I don't use it, but we need it...
> Tor Slettnes
> mindi
> mondo
Ugh.. My backup solution...
In emergency - being noone else taking it - I would take it, but
I do have very limited time now already...
BTW: The BTS and apt-cache show shows Hector Garcia <hec...@debian.org>
as mindi/mondo's maintainer...
Regards,
Rene
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Martin Michlmayr
Yes, because the criteria outlined in the first paragraph of James'
message don't apply to him. However, we are also checking for other
inactive people, including Take. Here's what happened about him so
far:
take:
2003-02-07: Orphaned: defoma
2003-04-19: Contact: scigraphica-common
2003-05-09: follow-up
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Drew Scott Daniels
old "todo" list. [1]
On Tue, 13 May 2003, James Troup wrote:
> On the 12th March I sent out a maintainer ping to 191 possibly
> inactive Debian developers. The list of developers was generated by
> looking first at all maintainers who didn't have a source package
> signed by (one of) their key(s) in unstable and then excluding from
> that anyone who had been seen (with a signed message) by echelon in
> the last 6 months.
>
"echelon" in this context meaning the mailing lists? As described in
http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2000/debian-project-200001/msg00007.html
?
A second ping to unresponsive and bounces might be nice in case of mailer
problems. If a second ping is done it should probably be done before
changing account status. It should probably say the results of the last
ping and what will happen to their account.
> So to actually do anything about these MIA folks, some decisions had
> to be made about what to do with them WRT LDAP, their accounts etc.
>
> There will be 4 states for any given account in LDAP:
>
> o [default]
> o Emeritus
> o Disabled
> o Memorial
>
> The 'emeritus' state is for people who voluntarily retire. Their
> accounts are locked and their keys are moved to a separate keyring.
> Their email will continue to work for 6 months[a]. They lose vote,
> upload and -private reading privileges.
>
What happens to email going to 'emeritus' status Debian accounts after 6
months? Bounce?
> The 'disabled' state is for people who don't respond to maintainer
> pings, their email bounces, or whatever - basically someone who's MIA.
> Things are the same as 'emeritus', except their email won't continue
> to work. After a year in this state the accounts will be purged[b] and
> will be available for reuse.
>
I would encourage the bounced e-mail to say they are MIA. I'd also like to
see a canonical location to store MIA names and information (I.e. a web
page). What happened to the qa MIA database? The code's at
http://cvs.debian.org/mia/?cvsroot=qa but I can't find anything online.
I dislike having their accounts being available for reuse. It could cause
confusion. I could give many examples of potential confusion.
> People in 'emeritus' or even 'disabled' can come back at anytime
> without going through new-maintainer; provided they can prove they
> control the key(s) associated with the account.
>
But not nicely if their account gets reused. This could cause even more
confusion.
> The 'memorial' is a special state used for accounts that are disabled
> but which we don't want reused to avoid confusion (at best), e.g. with
> developers who've passed away.
>
What happens to e-mail going to these accounts? memorial bounce messages
may be nice... I guess a bounce of any kind would be appropriate.
> So, the 34 people who's email bounced and 90 people who didn't reply
> will have their account set to the 'disabled' status. The 28 people
> who asked to be retired will be set to 'emeritus'. If you know how to
> reach any of the people listed in [1] and [2] below, please feel free
> to contact them and get them to reply to w...@debian.org.
>
Are does 'emeritus' status last for 6 months only? If not, other retired
developers may be considered for 'emeritus' status. If so, what does their
account status switch to? removed?
> Finally, this is only the start of what will hopefully be an ongoing
> process; further pings based on other criteria are planned and also
> the results of Martin's MIA work will be acted on.
>
Automation deciding when to send a ping, sending a ping message, informing
everyone of the results... would be great. Regular cleanups like this one
would be good too.
> [b] Any files associated with the account will be either removed or
> moved to some holding area.
>
Some guidelines to determine which or when account files are
archived/removed may prevent future squabbles.
Thanks for your efforts.
[1] My old "todo" list is at
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200207/msg04836.html
but I have newer lists on local systems with items removed, changed and
added.
Drew Daniels
Matt Zimmerman
> Joey Hess wrote:
> > Luis Francisco Gonzalez
> > tcsh
> > tcsh-i18n
> > tcsh-kanji
>
> uuh, tcsh is an OpenOffice.org Build-Dependency....
> I wouldn't take it because I don't use it, but we need it...
tcsh as a build-dependency? Seems like a bug in openoffice. That should be
fixed regardless of whether we keep tcsh.
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Matt Zimmerman
> On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 02:41:49PM +0100, James Troup wrote:
> > reach any of the people listed in [1] and [2] below, please feel free
> > to contact them and get them to reply to w...@debian.org.
>
> Is there a mnemonic for that? I.e., does "wat" stand for something?
Where Are They?
Raphael Hertzog
> "echelon" in this context meaning the mailing lists? As described in
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2000/debian-project-200001/msg00007.html
> ?
I guess so, yes. I don't know of any other echelon in Debian.
> page). What happened to the qa MIA database? The code's at
> http://cvs.debian.org/mia/?cvsroot=qa but I can't find anything online.
The code is setup on qa.debian.org, just login in that machine and it's
in /org/qa.debian.org/mia/ ... and read the README.
You can run the mia-history script there :
hertzog@klecker:/org/qa.debian.org/mia$ ./mia-history take
take:
2003-02-07: Orphaned: defoma
2003-04-19: Contact: scigraphica-common
2003-05-09: follow-up
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Drew Scott Daniels
> Le Tue, May 13, 2003 at 01:39:46PM -0500, Drew Scott Daniels écrivait:
> > page). What happened to the qa MIA database? The code's at
> > http://cvs.debian.org/mia/?cvsroot=qa but I can't find anything online.
>
> The code is setup on qa.debian.org, just login in that machine and it's
> in /org/qa.debian.org/mia/ ... and read the README.
>
> You can run the mia-history script there :
> hertzog@klecker:/org/qa.debian.org/mia$ ./mia-history take
> take:
> 2003-02-07: Orphaned: defoma
> 2003-04-19: Contact: scigraphica-common
> 2003-05-09: follow-up
>
Yet another Debian developer only perk... btw, I'm not a Debian developer
(yet). Thanks for the info though.
Drew Daniels
Juergen E. Fischer
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 12:11:16 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Pavel Tcholakov
> hylafax-client
> hylafax-doc
> hylafax-server
Pavel responded a few days ago here to the hylafax thread (as kay
<k...@phreedom.org>) and to a private mail I sent him last tuesday
containing fixes for his package.
He told me he's busy reviewing them.
Jürgen
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Nicolas Kratz
> On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 07:42:03PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> > uuh, tcsh is an OpenOffice.org Build-Dependency....
> > I wouldn't take it because I don't use it, but we need it...
>
> tcsh as a build-dependency? Seems like a bug in openoffice. That should be
> fixed regardless of whether we keep tcsh.
ISTR that lots of the upstream build scripts need tcsh. The issue has
come up once or twice in the past.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-openoffice/2002/debian-openoffice-200205/msg00226.html
Cheers,
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Russell Coker
> tcsh as a build-dependency? Seems like a bug in openoffice. That should
> be fixed regardless of whether we keep tcsh.
Why is it a bug for the compilation of a program to depend on one of the many
script interpreters in Debian?
If the upstream authors want to write shell code that can only be interpreted
by tcsh in their build scripts then it shouldn't be a bug in the Debian
package as long as the tcsh package remains in Debian IMHO.
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Alexander Kotelnikov
>>>>> "MZ" == Matt Zimmerman <m...@debian.org> wrote:
MZ>
>> Joey Hess wrote:
>> > Luis Francisco Gonzalez
>> > tcsh
>> > tcsh-i18n
>> > tcsh-kanji
>>
>> uuh, tcsh is an OpenOffice.org Build-Dependency....
>> I wouldn't take it because I don't use it, but we need it...
MZ> tcsh as a build-dependency? Seems like a bug in openoffice. That should be
MZ> fixed regardless of whether we keep tcsh.
Do you mean, that it should be
Build-Depends: c-shell
or that all shell-like scripting should be Bourn-compatible?
Any of these assumptions can be considered seriously, frankly
speaking.
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Steve Langasek
> On Tue, 13 May 2003, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > Le Tue, May 13, 2003 at 01:39:46PM -0500, Drew Scott Daniels écrivait:
> > > page). What happened to the qa MIA database? The code's at
> > > http://cvs.debian.org/mia/?cvsroot=qa but I can't find anything online.
> > The code is setup on qa.debian.org, just login in that machine and it's
> > in /org/qa.debian.org/mia/ ... and read the README.
> > You can run the mia-history script there :
> > hertzog@klecker:/org/qa.debian.org/mia$ ./mia-history take
> > take:
> > 2003-02-07: Orphaned: defoma
> > 2003-04-19: Contact: scigraphica-common
> > 2003-05-09: follow-up
> Yet another Debian developer only perk... btw, I'm not a Debian developer
> (yet). Thanks for the info though.
Yes, and there are good reasons for not wanting the general public to
have access to our database which tracks which developers are inactive
-- not to mention that some of the indicators of "activity" include
posts to DD-only mailing lists.
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Matt Zimmerman
> On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 04:59:25PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > tcsh as a build-dependency? Seems like a bug in openoffice. That
> > should be fixed regardless of whether we keep tcsh.
>
> ISTR that lots of the upstream build scripts need tcsh. The issue has come
> up once or twice in the past.
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-openoffice/2002/debian-openoffice-200205/msg00226.html
I agree with Emmanuel le Chevoir in that thread when he said "eeeeeeeek!"
csh is broken for purposes of writing scripts, and tcsh is just csh with
enhancements for interactive use, as far as I recall.
I don't have the disk space to unpack openoffice.org, and neither does
auric, so I can't look right now. The one script I was able to see was
about 60 lines and was mostly "echo" commands with one "setenv", and could
be trivially changed to work with any shell.
Matt Zimmerman
> On Wed, 14 May 2003 06:59, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > tcsh as a build-dependency? Seems like a bug in openoffice. That
> > should be fixed regardless of whether we keep tcsh.
>
> Why is it a bug for the compilation of a program to depend on one of the
> many script interpreters in Debian?
>
> If the upstream authors want to write shell code that can only be
> interpreted by tcsh in their build scripts then it shouldn't be a bug in
> the Debian package as long as the tcsh package remains in Debian IMHO.
Not everything that upstream authors do is sensible. As I'm sure you know,
upstreams do a lot of things which are clearly not. It doesn't imply any
malice on their part, or that of Debian, to say that it is not the way it
should be done.
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<snip>
> [2]
>
> No reply
> - --------
> Alexander Shinn <fo...@debian.org>
<snip>
I have another email address for Alex, and have forwarded your email to
him. Unfortunately, he's not in the country right now, so quicker
contact is difficult. :(
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Halil Demirezen
> script interpreters in Debian?
>
> If the upstream authors want to write shell code that can only be interpreted
> by tcsh in their build scripts then it shouldn't be a bug in the Debian
> package as long as the tcsh package remains in Debian IMHO.
>
"csh and tcsh should be avoided as scripting languages. See Csh Programming Considered Harmful, one of the comp.unix.* FAQs,
which can be found at http:// language.perl.com/versus/csh.whynot.[43] If an upstream package comes with csh scripts then you
must make sure that they start with #!/bin/csh and make your package depend on the c-shell virtual package. "
debian-policy << 11.4 >>
maybe that is because of being harmful as it is said in debian-policy?
Graham Wilson
> lists. May not be complete, but I grepped for names and for emails
> seperately so probably found most of them.
> No reply:
[...]
> Tor Slettnes
> mindi
> mondo
> smail
> xcdroast
> yard
> zmailer
> zmailer-ssl
all of these packages appear to be maintained by Hector Garcia, who is
not on james list.
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Graham Wilson
> * Fielder George Dowding <fgdo...@iceworm-enterprises.net> [2003-05-13 09:34]:
> > I note that Yasuhiro Take (ta...@debian.org) is not listed in your
> > missive.
>
> Yes, because the criteria outlined in the first paragraph of James'
> message don't apply to him. However, we are also checking for other
> inactive people, including Take.
are you all also checking to see if people in the nm queue are still
active?
also, what about people who have a package uploaded (they are listed in
Maintainer), but havent started the nm process and dont seem to be
active?
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gram
Martin Michlmayr
> are you all also checking to see if people in the nm queue are still
> active?
If they have not been approved by their AM yet, their AM will notice
and put them on hold and eventually reject them. For those who have
been approved by their AM, they have been pinged at some point more or
less recently.
> also, what about people who have a package uploaded (they are listed
> in Maintainer), but havent started the nm process and dont seem to
> be active?
Yeah, they are currently quite hard to track down. See
http://lists.debian.org/debian-qa/2003/debian-qa-200301/msg00040.html
for some comments on this. Eventually, I'd like to see sponsorship as
a pre-stage to NM so those people would be recorded on nm.debian.org.
Héctor García Álvarez
> Tor Slettnes
> mindi
> mondo
> smail
> xcdroast
> yard
> zmailer
> zmailer-ssl
I am the maintainer for those packages and I'm not MIA for the moment.
Please check your list again.
BTW, if someone wants to help testing latest mindi/mondo please check on
people.debian.org/~hector/
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Simon Huggins
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 11:25:49AM +0200, Héctor García Álvarez wrote:
> El mar, 13 de 05 de 2003 a las 18:11, Joey Hess escribió:
> > Tor Slettnes
> I am the maintainer for those packages and I'm not MIA for the moment.
> Please check your list again.
> Héctor García Álvarez <hec...@debian.org>
I'm guessing Joey's grep for t...@debian.org wasn't anchored and so
picked up hec...@debian.org too.
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> > please feel free to contact them and get them to reply to
> > w...@debian.org.
>
> Is there a mnemonic for that? I.e., does "wat" stand for something?
"wherefore art thou" (see the source for emilie in dak CVS).
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Matthias Urlichs
> Is there a mnemonic for that? I.e., does "wat" stand for something?
Is that email address an alias for m...@qa.d.o ?
(ObTLA: mia == "missing in action")
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Martin Michlmayr
> > Is there a mnemonic for that? I.e., does "wat" stand for something?
> Is that email address an alias for m...@qa.d.o ?
No.
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Matt Hope
> Hi, Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> > Is there a mnemonic for that? I.e., does "wat" stand for something?
>
> Is that email address an alias for m...@qa.d.o ?
>
> (ObTLA: mia == "missing in action")
Or should that be awol@ ?
(Absent with-out leave)
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Michael Fedrowitz
Hi,
> As a result of the lack of action on Mr. Take's part regarding these
> outstanding bug reports, the Defoma package has been listed as
> orphaned (#180188) before the critical bug (#181749) was submitted.
> I am attempting to step up to the plate, and I am experiencing a
> high level of difficulties unravelling the many instructions for
> becominig a maintainer
You might want to start by properly retitling the bug.
However if you're talking about becoming DD: that takes its time it
would certainly be nice to have fixed packages before then. I'd be
willing to sponsor uploads.
> as well as groking the source code (perl with a bash or sh script
> against which bug #181749 has been filed).
IMNSHO defoma is an unmaintainable mess that not only needs to be
rewritten but also redesigned from scratch. But if you really want to
deal with the current code base, your second high priority item beside
the bug mentioned above should be the scalability issues (bugs #143818,
#179099).
It might also be a good idea to set up a project on Alioth, if there's
enough interest.
-Michael
Joey Hess
> Hiya,
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 11:25:49AM +0200, Héctor García Álvarez wrote:
> > El mar, 13 de 05 de 2003 a las 18:11, Joey Hess escribió:
> > > Tor Slettnes
> > I am the maintainer for those packages and I'm not MIA for the moment.
> > Please check your list again.
> > Héctor García Álvarez <hec...@debian.org>
>
> I'm guessing Joey's grep for t...@debian.org wasn't anchored and so
> picked up hec...@debian.org too.
doh!
I think that's the only one it screwed up, FWIW. All the other matches
were on names and not emails.
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have been lurking, so I will examine the numerous examples to grok
the proper method. I fear I went off half-cocked at the first
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Amaya
Joey Hess dijo:
> Tor Slettnes
> mindi
> mondo
> smail
> xcdroast
> yard
> zmailer
> zmailer-ssl
These are Héctor García's and he is not MIA at all.
What happened?
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including Hector's himself 0:-)
Glad to see this clarified.
Martin Michlmayr
> Here is a list of packages in unstable maintained by people on James's
> lists. May not be complete, but I grepped for names and for emails
> seperately so probably found most of them.
Thanks for this list; thoes packages have been orphaned or otherwise
been taken care of now.
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t...@cyrius.com
Petter Reinholdtsen
> Tor Slettnes <t...@debian.org>
I forwarded this email to his other address, which I came across in a
mail from a common friend of our.
Tollef Fog Heen
| [James Troup]
| > Tor Slettnes <t...@debian.org>
|
| I forwarded this email to his other address, which I came across in a
| mail from a common friend of our.
I've recently mailed with him, and for the time being, he is out of
time for doing Debian work.
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