War with Iraq
keith luscombe
coalition had done their job properley 12 years ago then this situation
would never have come to bear.But the fact of the matter is that Iraq
has weapons and means to cause one awfull scenario,where thousands of
innocent people could lose their lives.Would you trust somone like
Sadaam Hussein? I understand the Pacifists and indeed i also am against
war,but in this case there is NO choice,just suppose you lived in a
small village or community and one member was insane and had in his
garden shed a few sub machine guns and mortars,what would you do? well
maybe nothing cos your scared,but would you not be happyif your
neighbour went in and took those weapons away from him.Sometimes i get
the feeling that the antipathy for the USA is blinding logic and
reason.The guy has got to to be stopped!and stopped before its to late!
Who cares if the French and Germans are against it? the USA and the UK
should go in and go in hard and put an end to this evil Tyrant,how much
longer must the normal worker and family man suffer in Iraq,surely the
anti war people and paifist must see that buy ignoring what is happening
in Iraq is a criminal act,and in the end by not going to war in the end
more lives will be lost.Ive heard all the arguments about the oil
etc,but it changes nothing,Saadam Has got to be stopped,only then can
the average good people of Iraq live in peace and prosperity,until then
there can only be suffering and more hardship,neither am i a G:W Bush
fan i think he is one shilling short of a pound and a dummy to boot,it
changes nothing we can no longer afford to sit back and do nothing.Im
happy that there are still countrys like the UK and USA who are prepared
to take a stand against tyranny albeit 12 years late,but better late
than never.
Keith
Truckdrivingman
family men in Iraq ? He wants oil,and so do the Britons.And Germany,France
and many other nations recognised that.How many tyrants or supressive
regimes do exist on this planet,having nukes or other weapons of mass
destruction ? More than one dozen ! But America wouldn't invade them
all,because there's nothing to get (no oil!).The whole war is sanctimonious
shit,and I hope that the US army will get a bloody nose and has to aquire
their victory very very dear.
Tom
JIGSAW1695
From: "Truckdrivingman" truckdr...@hotmail.com
Date: 2/9/2003 8:09 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <b25jtn$18hmpl$1...@ID-137411.news.dfncis.de>
Tom
===============================
Think 9-11!
remember 9-11.
Truckdrivingman
>
> Think 9-11!
> remember 9-11.
Saddam didn't arrange it.That's proven.9-11 is the result for your foreign
politics,nothing else.BTW,where was your almighty CIA ? Why did your
intelligence not know about that before ?
Tom
Richard J
I hope that if we do not go to war and sometime down the line some of VX
that Hussen doesn't have gets into the hands of terrorists, your family
shares that experience.
Teflon
keith luscombe
Truckdrivingman schrieb:
> You little fool ! Do you really think that Bush cares about workers or
> family men in Iraq ?
No of course he doesn`t and you have missedthe point of what i was tying
to say,but there again what can one expect from a "trucker"
He wants oil,and so do the Britons.And Germany,France
> and many other nations recognised that.
Its absoulutely irelevant want France or Germany recognises!
How much oil was ever brought from Iraq,before the war? how many other
nations sell oil to the industial lands? if Iraqs oil dried up tommorow
there would still be enough for you and your toyota pickup and
walkman,etc etc.so dont talk such crap.
How many tyrants or supressive
> regimes do exist on this planet,having nukes or other weapons of mass
> destruction ? More than one dozen !
More like 2 dozen including Bush,but then most of them are either
mentaly stabil or have stabil goverments,if you consider Saadam stabil
then i think its about time you overhauled your brain as well as your
truck!!!
But America wouldn't invade them
> all,because there's nothing to get (no oil!).The whole war is sanctimonious
> shit,and I hope that the US army will get a bloody nose and has to aquire
> their victory very very dear.
Lets hope your very wrong,is your brain capable of working out what
sadamm would do if he was ever in the position to defeat the coalition
armies? you would sing a very different tune if your country was nuked
with an anthrax bomb,you would be one of the first hypocrites to
squeal,"why was something not done"? again read my post im not saying
that the USA or the UK are angels,what im trying to say is a man with as
much power as Sadaam has got tobe stopped before more innocent lives are
lost,i dont give a hoot who does it,so long as somone has the ballsto
stop him!! would you rather china stopped him,or France or even Germany?
its irrelevant whats important that him an his ilk are stopped,if you
cant see that then i feel very sorry for you.
Keith
>
> Tom
>
>
JIGSAW1695
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Tom
===============================
Remember that budget surplus left behind by the Clinton administration. It
came, in part, from slashs made to the CIA budget.... no money means no assets.
JIGSAW1695
>Date: 2/9/2003 12:55 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <q8hih-...@zeouane.org>
>
>le Sun, 9 Feb 2003 16:33:44 +0100, dans l'article
><b25scq$190qqd$1...@ID-137411.news.dfncis.de>, Truckdrivingman
><truckdr...@hotmail.com> a dit ...
>>> Think 9-11!
>>> remember 9-11.
>
>> Saddam didn't arrange it.That's proven.9-11 is the result for your
>> foreign politics,nothing else.BTW,where was your almighty CIA ? Why did
>> your intelligence not know about that before ?
>
>ordered to stand down on 11 September 2001.
>
Desmond Coughlan
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I suppose that you have a source for this
"information".
Tim Drake
"Truckdrivingman" <truckdr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b25jtn$18hmpl$1...@ID-137411.news.dfncis.de...
> You little fool ! Do you really think that Bush cares about workers or
> family men in Iraq ? He wants oil,and so do the Britons.And Germany,France
> and many other nations recognised that.How many tyrants or supressive
> regimes do exist on this planet,having nukes or other weapons of mass
> destruction ? More than one dozen !
And what is the US supposed to do, you US-hating cocksmoker? Attack
all of those countries at once?
What Bush REALLY needs to do is pull all American servicemen out of
Germany. Then we can sit back and watch your economy go down the shitter.
Tim Drake
> > ===============================
> >
> > Think 9-11!
> > remember 9-11.
>
> Saddam didn't arrange it.That's proven.9-11 is the result for your foreign
> politics,nothing else.
Really? How do you explain the bombing of that nightclub in Bali,
then? I'd guess they have a bad foreign policy too, huh?
JIGSAW1695
Message-id: <q70jh-...@zeouane.org>
le 09 Feb 2003 19:32:50 GMT, dans l'article
<20030209143250...@mb-fd.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com>
a dit ...
{ snip }
>>They did. There is clear evidence that the United States Air Force was
>>ordered to stand down on 11 September 2001.
> I suppose that you have a source for this "information".
Not that it would serve any purpose to post it, Jigsaw, as you'd never
believe that your country allow such an attack to go ahead. Just as you
don't believe that your country could ever convict an innocent man of a
crime. I'm willing to bet a month's wages, that you consider all or most
of the 102 persons released from death row, 'guilty, but freed on a
technicality'. Am I right ?
Having said that, let me run a few facts by you, that are not challenged
even by the corrupt and unelected crowd of hicks in the White House.
1. The FAA knew at 08:20 that Flight 11 had been hijacked.
2. At 09:06, the FAA ordered the air corridor from Cleveland OH to
Washington D.C. _closed to all traffic_.
3. Flight 77 struck the Pentagon at approximately 09:45.
4. Andrews Air Force base is approximately 10 nautical miles from the
capital. There were at least three full combat-ready F-15 squadrons at
Andrews that day, plus the D.C. Air National Guard (121st Fighter
Squadron, 113th Fighter Wing, 321st Marine Fighter Attack Squadron).
5. The Air Force had 39 minutes to scramble jets to protect the capital.
Why did they not do so ?
6. The only fighters that were scrambled were are couple of F-16s from
Langley Air Force Base. Langley is 129 miles from Washington D.C.
These aircraft are capable of flying from Langley to D.C. in a little
over five minutes. In fact, they arrived 30 minutes too late, having
flown the 129 miles at 250 mph. If you can come up with some credible
explanation as to why fighter jets capable of exceeding 1,400 mph,
should dawdle along at 250 mph during a time of national emergency, I'm
all ears.
Why were those aircraft not intercepted ? The excuse 'we weren't expecting
it' is demonstrably false. Civilian aircraft departing from their filed
flight plan routinely result in intercepts by military fighters. In 1999,
for example, Payne Stewart's Learjet left its authorised flight plan. An
F-16 from Tyndall, Fla., was diverted from a routine training flight to
check it out. Two F-16s from another Florida base then picked up the chase,
later handing it over to two Air National Guard F-16s from Oklahoma, which
handed it over to two F-16s from Fargo, North Dakota.
If you can think of a reason for the above, please share it with us,
Jigsaw.
Desmond Coughlan
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Back to my original question: What is your source of information?
Mr Q. Z. D. at home
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote:
> le 09 Feb 2003 17:55:54 GMT, dans l'article
> <20030209125554...@mb-cf.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695
> <jigsa...@aol.com> a dit ...
>
> { snip }
>
> > Remember that budget surplus left behind by the Clinton administration.
> > It
> > came, in part, from slashs made to the CIA budget.... no money means no
> > assets.
>
> Yeah Jigsaw, right. Of course, that George 'Dumbo' Bush was able to turn
> a
> $250 million _surplus_ into a $159 million _deficit_ in the space of 18
> months, was all Clinton's fault too, right ?? LMAO !!!
Uh...Wasn't that "billion" rather than "million". Even in a backwater
like Tasmania, our state government would regard $250m as close to
peanuts...
OK, not quite, but a $160m deficit wouldn't cause panic on the streets.
Vlad Drac
>Who wants war?
I do, i do!!!
i am really looking forward to it. And all the interactive galleries
on weapons that come with it. Let it start as soon as possible.
Please Mr Rumsfeld, shake some salt on my life and start the war
John Rennie
"Vlad Drac" <pat...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The Dutch are so good at it. We well remember
their behaviour in Bosnia.
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
>Subject: Re: War with Iraq
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 17:59:53 +0000
>
>le 09 Feb 2003 17:55:54 GMT, dans l'article
><20030209125554...@mb-cf.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695
><jigsa...@aol.com> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }
>
>> Remember that budget surplus left behind by the Clinton administration. It
>> came, in part, from slashs made to the CIA budget.... no money means no
>assets.
>
>Yeah Jigsaw, right. Of course, that George 'Dumbo' Bush was able to turn a
>$250 million _surplus_ into a $159 million _deficit_ in the space of 18
>months, was all Clinton's fault too, right ?? LMAO !!!
>
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<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: War with Iraq
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 22:10:34 +0000
>
>le 09 Feb 2003 19:32:50 GMT, dans l'article
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><jigsa...@aol.com> a dit ...
>
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: War with Iraq
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 17:54:14 +0000
>
>le 09 Feb 2003 15:03:21 GMT, dans l'article
><20030209100321...@mb-fl.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695
><jigsa...@aol.com> a dit ...
>
>>> You little fool ! Do you really think that Bush cares about workers or
>>> family men in Iraq ? He wants oil,and so do the Britons.And
>>> Germany,France and many other nations recognised that.How many tyrants
>>> or supressive regimes do exist on this planet,having nukes or other
>>> weapons of mass destruction ? More than one dozen ! But America wouldn't
>>> invade them all,because there's nothing to get (no oil!).The whole war
>>> is sanctimonious shit,and I hope that the US army will get a bloody nose
>>> and has to aquire their victory very very dear.
>
>> Think 9-11!
>> remember 9-11.
>
>What did Iraq have to do with '9/11' (sic), Jigsaw ?
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: War with Iraq
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 17:55:06 +0000
>
>le Sun, 9 Feb 2003 16:33:44 +0100, dans l'article
><b25scq$190qqd$1...@ID-137411.news.dfncis.de>, Truckdrivingman
><truckdr...@hotmail.com> a dit ...
>
>>> Think 9-11!
>>> remember 9-11.
>
>> Saddam didn't arrange it.That's proven.9-11 is the result for your
>> foreign politics,nothing else.BTW,where was your almighty CIA ? Why did
>> your intelligence not know about that before ?
>
>They did. There is clear evidence that the United States Air Force was
>ordered to stand down on 11 September 2001.
>
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>le Sun, 9 Feb 2003 16:33:44 +0100, dans l'article <b25scq$190qqd$1...@ID-137411.news.dfncis.de>, Truckdrivingman <truckdr...@hotmail.com> a dit ...
>
>>> Think 9-11!
>>> remember 9-11.
>
>> Saddam didn't arrange it.That's proven.9-11 is the result for your
>> foreign politics,nothing else.BTW,where was your almighty CIA ? Why did
>> your intelligence not know about that before ?
>
>They did. There is clear evidence that the United States Air Force was
>ordered to stand down on 11 September 2001.
<spew...> oh, momma... come read this....isn't he better than Jay Leno????
ROTFLMAO.... ROTFLMAO.... ROTFLMAO...
Yeah, desi... I understand that the 'clear air turbulence' was especially strong that
day.
But at least you've stopped using your *giggle*.
PV
JIGSAW1695
Message-id: <9uqjh-...@zeouane.org>
le 09 Feb 2003 23:02:24 GMT, dans l'article
<20030209180224...@mb-mh.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com>
a dit ...
{ snip }
> Back to my original question: What is your source of information?
What do you mean what is the source of information, you fucking retard ?
My source is news documents. The official timeline for that morning isn't
disputed. It's accepted that no aircraft were scrambled from Andrews until
much later. It's accepted that the two jets scrambled from Langley,
arrived over Washington 30 minutes after the attacks were over.
Now stop dodging, and tell me: why were no jets scrambled from Andrews AFB?
Why did the jets that _were_ scrambled from Langley, dawdle Southwards at a
tad over 250 mph ?
Desmond Coughlan
===============================
Once again, you horrible, bloody little man.
What is your source of information. Better yet, what is your point?
DJ Sceptre of Man Gravy
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote:
> le Sun, 09 Feb 2003 23:01:39 GMT, dans l'article
> <n5B1a.16$PK3.19...@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, Tim Drake
> <t...@gotham.com> a dit ...
>
> >> > Think 9-11!
> >> > remember 9-11.
>
> >> Saddam didn't arrange it.That's proven.9-11 is the result for your
> >> foreign
> >> politics,nothing else.
>
> > Really? How do you explain the bombing of that nightclub in Bali,
> > then? I'd guess they have a bad foreign policy too, huh?
>
> Oh dear ... Timmy _is_ a little moron, isn't he ?
Got it in one - and his "whois" will fail to protect him from this
address, too. Ain't it sad...
> What no one seems to have told him, is that the suspects in that bombing,
> told investigators that they were targetting Americans first, Westerners
> second.
And the fact that fundamentalists were sorry that Australians were
killed in the blasts.
> Then again, if anyone told him, would he listen, or would he just reply
> 'plonk' ?
Timmy habitually killfiles anyone who spanks his flappy arse.
Eventually he'll manage to killfile all world views that are at odds
with his. That will effectively make him so insular that it's
frightening.
I don't see why he bothers - he won't listen to people who post contrary
opinions so, in effect, he's shouting his rhetoric into the ether. What
a fucking retard!
A Planet Visitor
wrote:
>le 09 Feb 2003 15:03:21 GMT, dans l'article <20030209100321...@mb-fl.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a dit ...
>
>>> You little fool ! Do you really think that Bush cares about workers or
>>> family men in Iraq ? He wants oil,and so do the Britons.And
>>> Germany,France and many other nations recognised that.How many tyrants
>>> or supressive regimes do exist on this planet,having nukes or other
>>> weapons of mass destruction ? More than one dozen ! But America wouldn't
>>> invade them all,because there's nothing to get (no oil!).The whole war
>>> is sanctimonious shit,and I hope that the US army will get a bloody nose
>>> and has to aquire their victory very very dear.
>
>> Think 9-11!
>> remember 9-11.
>
>What did Iraq have to do with '9/11' (sic), Jigsaw ?
Make no further mistake about it... you ARE *giggling*.
You monster... you contemptible monster.
You murderer loving swine.
--
> Ayatollah desi
> http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/obsessive_litany.html
Am I obsessed with fighting 'evil'? Damn... I'm 'Superman' when
it comes to fighting desi's 'forces of evil.' References to a post which
insightfully pronounced of desi --
"'Cancerous' is almost a compliment when one views most of
desi's comments -- other forms spring more easily to mind --
it is a parasitic diarrhea of the brain... it is crazy chick disease
transferred to our thinking process -- it is a swarm of latrine flies
settling on our ability to process information --- it is maggots
feasting on the bodies of numberless victims of murder. It is
madness. utter madness. It is Desmond Coughlan."
Every evil, vile thought that has ever swept across this group from
desi's pen, as Genghis Kahn (or Attila the Hun, if you prefer) swept
his broad scythe of rape, death and destruction, in long, broad,
excruciating strokes across the face of humanity, stand as stark images of his
perverse character. And we stand witness to that depravity.
Desmond Coughlan
{ snip }
>>> Think 9-11! remember 9-11.
>>What did Iraq have to do with '9/11' (sic), Jigsaw ?
> Make no further mistake about it... you ARE *giggling*.
> You monster... you contemptible monster.
> You murderer loving swine.
I'm giggling at you ... sorry, 'YOU' (sic) ... ROTFLMAO !!!
A Planet Visitor
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>
>{ snip }
>
>>>> Think 9-11! remember 9-11.
>
>>>What did Iraq have to do with '9/11' (sic), Jigsaw ?
>
>> Make no further mistake about it... you ARE *giggling*.
>> You monster... you contemptible monster.
>> You murderer loving swine.
>
>I'm giggling at you ... sorry, 'YOU' (sic) ... ROTFLMAO !!!
No... quite seriously... you and everyone here KNOWS what you're
*giggling* about, as it's been explained to you very clearly. I had
thought that you would simply post in YOUR preferred manner when
responding, which you did a few times. I now see you are simply
a monster, finding HUMOR in the mention of 9-11. Certainly not
at me... since I am here, and those spoken of in 9-11 are the dead.
But we all knew that you could not honor the dead. We now know
that you cannot honor their memory as well. I don't care how often
you use the most silly device I have ever witnessed... that totally
moronic, and obsessive (sic). But make no mistake, it represents
a *giggle*, which I don't give a damn about, except in this particular
case. Since a great belly-laugh emerges from you when you gleefully
REPEAT the previous owner's use of 9-11, and add your patented
*giggle*, rather than just use your own dating preference.
Yes... clearly you are a sickening monster. Laughing on the graves
of 3,000, because it happened in the U.S. You use it TO OFFEND.
And you get your rocks off... when YOU CAN OFFEND. It
PLEASES you that you've brought out my anger... And that
pleasure CAUSES you to smile and thus, you have USED those
3,000 to give yourself a *giggle*. Presuming you *giggle* at
my being offended, is the most disgusting and depraved thought
I can imagine. Since you actually *giggle* at the meaning of those
lives... not at me. It offends beyond all sensibilities. And it offends
France as well... if you presume that is the character and methods
used by someone you now presume is 'French.' Perhaps your
next step is to add a (sic) whenever anyone uses the word
'Holocaust,' presuming it is incorrect, because you prefer 'Shoah.'
So you might also *giggle* over that event in history to offend
the sensibilities of every human. Which seems to be your purpose
in life.
PV
Mark Andrew Spence
M.S.
"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote
Rev. Don Kool
Desi Coughlan wrote:
> Herbie wrote ...
>>>>Remember that budget surplus left behind by the Clinton
>>>>administration. It came, in part, from slashs made to the CIA
>>>>budget.... no money means no assets.
>>>
>
>>>Yeah Jigsaw, right. Of course, that George 'Dumbo' Bush was able to
>>>turn a $250 million _surplus_ into a $159 million _deficit_ in the space
>>>of 18 months, was all Clinton's fault too, right ?? LMAO !!!
>>
>
>>Uh...Wasn't that "billion" rather than "million". Even in a backwater
>>like Tasmania, our state government would regard $250m as close to
>>peanuts...
>>
>>OK, not quite, but a $160m deficit wouldn't cause panic on the streets.
>
>
> Yes, it was billion. My apologies.
You are forgiven, my child. You may rise from your knees now.
Yours in Christ,
Don
--
*************************** You a bounty hunter?
* Rev. Don McDonald, SCNA * Man's gotta earn a living.
* Baltimore, MD * Dying ain't much of a living, boy.
*************************** "Outlaw Josey Wales"
Rev. Don Kool
Desi Coughlan wrote:
> JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> wrote ...
>
> { snip }
>
>
>>>They did. There is clear evidence that the United States Air Force was
>>>ordered to stand down on 11 September 2001.
>>
>
>>I suppose that you have a source for this "information".
>
>
> Not that it would serve any purpose to post it, Jigsaw, as you'd never
> believe that your country allow such an attack to go ahead. Just as you
> don't believe that your country could ever convict an innocent man of a
> crime. I'm willing to bet a month's wages, that you consider all or most
> of the 102 persons released from death row, 'guilty, but freed on a
> technicality'. Am I right ?
>
> Having said that, let me run a few facts by you, that are not challenged
> even by the corrupt and unelected crowd of hicks in the White House.
>
> 1. The FAA knew at 08:20 that Flight 11 had been hijacked.
>
> 2. At 09:06, the FAA ordered the air corridor from Cleveland OH to
> Washington D.C. _closed to all traffic_.
>
> 3. Flight 77 struck the Pentagon at approximately 09:45.
>
> 4. Andrews Air Force base is approximately 10 nautical miles from the
> capital. There were at least three full combat-ready F-15 squadrons at
> Andrews that day, plus the D.C. Air National Guard (121st Fighter
> Squadron, 113th Fighter Wing, 321st Marine Fighter Attack Squadron).
>
> 5. The Air Force had 39 minutes to scramble jets to protect the capital.
> Why did they not do so ?
>
> 6. The only fighters that were scrambled were are couple of F-16s from
> Langley Air Force Base. Langley is 129 miles from Washington D.C.
That will come as a great surprise to anyone who lives in Langley.
LOL!!!! Face it Desi, you can't even make up a credible story.
Hope this helps,
Vlad Drac
>> i am really looking forward to it. And all the interactive galleries
>> on weapons that come with it. Let it start as soon as possible.
>> Please Mr Rumsfeld, shake some salt on my life and start the war
>
>The Dutch are so good at it. We well remember
>their behaviour in Bosnia.
>
The french did not want to give us air support John
we were not to blame
and hey, did you hear how dutch f16s dropped laser guided bombs on Al
Qaeda today!!??!
John Rennie
You were to blame and the whole of the Netherlands
recognises this. You are at your best fighting the sea
and you should stick to that.
ikke
"John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:%AS1a.205$q5...@newsfep3-gui.server.ntli.net...
Whatever the failings of Dutchbat, or more accurately, those responsible for
their feeble deployment, I think you'll find that the Serbians were
ultimately to blame, John.
Cheers
John
John Rennie
"ikke" <ik...@who.net> wrote in message
news:APV1a.28$29...@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
The Serbians did what they intended to do - ethnic cleanse and the Dutch
let them. They didn't need air support, they merely had to resist handing
over the Muslim Bosnians to the Serbs. The Serbs would not have dared
attack UN forces.
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
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>Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 07:56:52 +0000
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: War with Iraq
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 05:48:56 +0000
>
>le Sun, 09 Feb 2003 22:59:55 GMT, dans l'article
><L3B1a.15$_I3.19...@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, Tim Drake
><t...@gotham.com> a dit ...
>
>>> You little fool ! Do you really think that Bush cares about workers or
>>> family men in Iraq ? He wants oil,and so do the Britons.And
>>> Germany,France and many other nations recognised that.How many tyrants
>>> or supressive regimes do exist on this planet,having nukes or other
>>> weapons of mass destruction ? More than one dozen !
>
>> And what is the US supposed to do, you US-hating cocksmoker? Attack all
>> of those countries at once?
>>
>> What Bush REALLY needs to do is pull all American servicemen out of
>> Germany. Then we can sit back and watch your economy go down the shitter.
>
>Ho, ho ... maybe someone should tell him about the euro ...
>
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>http://www.zeouane.org/
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: War with Iraq
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 05:47:56 +0000
>
>le Sun, 09 Feb 2003 23:01:39 GMT, dans l'article
><n5B1a.16$PK3.19...@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, Tim Drake
><t...@gotham.com> a dit ...
>
>>> > Think 9-11!
>>> > remember 9-11.
>
>>> Saddam didn't arrange it.That's proven.9-11 is the result for your foreign
>>> politics,nothing else.
>
>> Really? How do you explain the bombing of that nightclub in Bali,
>> then? I'd guess they have a bad foreign policy too, huh?
>
>Oh dear ... Timmy _is_ a little moron, isn't he ?
>
>What no one seems to have told him, is that the suspects in that bombing,
>told investigators that they were targetting Americans first, Westerners
>second.
>
>Then again, if anyone told him, would he listen, or would he just reply
>'plonk' ?
>
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>http://www.zeouane.org/
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<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: War with Iraq
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 05:40:44 +0000
>
>le Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:02:17 GMT, dans l'article
><Jonathan.Elliott-45...@newsroom.utas.edu.au>, Mr Q. Z. D. at
>home <Jonathan...@utas.edu.au> a dit ...
>
>>> > Remember that budget surplus left behind by the Clinton
>>> > administration. It came, in part, from slashs made to the CIA
>>> > budget.... no money means no assets.
>
>>> Yeah Jigsaw, right. Of course, that George 'Dumbo' Bush was able to
>>> turn a $250 million _surplus_ into a $159 million _deficit_ in the space
>>> of 18 months, was all Clinton's fault too, right ?? LMAO !!!
>
>> Uh...Wasn't that "billion" rather than "million". Even in a backwater
>> like Tasmania, our state government would regard $250m as close to
>> peanuts...
>>
>> OK, not quite, but a $160m deficit wouldn't cause panic on the streets.
>
>Yes, it was billion. My apologies.
>
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<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: War with Iraq
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 07:21:40 +0000
>
>le Mon, 10 Feb 2003 07:13:36 GMT, dans l'article
><NOT.jXoXnXaXtXhXaXn-...@newsroom.utas.edu.au>, DJ Sceptre
>of Man Gravy <NOT.jXoXn...@ids.org.au> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> > Really? How do you explain the bombing of that nightclub in Bali,
>>> > then? I'd guess they have a bad foreign policy too, huh?
>
>>> Oh dear ... Timmy _is_ a little moron, isn't he ?
>
>> Got it in one - and his "whois" will fail to protect him from this
>> address, too. Ain't it sad...
>
>In a way, yes. On the other hand, the mere existence of terminal morons
>like Neal, Timmy, FuckWit and Jigsaw, make the rest of us feel good at
>having an IQ that goes into three figures.
>
>{ snip }
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<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: War with Iraq
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 05:46:17 +0000
>
>le 09 Feb 2003 23:02:24 GMT, dans l'article
><20030209180224...@mb-mh.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695
><jigsa...@aol.com> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> Having said that, let me run a few facts by you, that are not challenged
>>> even by the corrupt and unelected crowd of hicks in the White House.
>>>
>>> 1. The FAA knew at 08:20 that Flight 11 had been hijacked.
>>>
>>> 2. At 09:06, the FAA ordered the air corridor from Cleveland OH to
>>> Washington D.C. _closed to all traffic_.
>>>
>>> 3. Flight 77 struck the Pentagon at approximately 09:45.
>>>
>>> 4. Andrews Air Force base is approximately 10 nautical miles from the
>>> capital. There were at least three full combat-ready F-15 squadrons
>at
>>> Andrews that day, plus the D.C. Air National Guard (121st Fighter
>>> Squadron, 113th Fighter Wing, 321st Marine Fighter Attack Squadron).
>>>
>>> 5. The Air Force had 39 minutes to scramble jets to protect the capital.
>>> Why did they not do so ?
>>>
>>> 6. The only fighters that were scrambled were are couple of F-16s from
>>> Langley Air Force Base. Langley is 129 miles from Washington D.C.
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Tim Drake
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
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But you don't have to. You can add him to your killfile as everyone
else already has.
I Rimmed Timmy's Niece
{ snip FW's hysterical, hissy fit }
> But you don't have to. You can add him to your killfile as everyone
> else already has.
ROTFLMAO !!!!
--
Desmond
A Planet Visitor
Sorry, Tim... Of course I have to. Or I could not look myself in the mirror,
believing that I have left such evil unanswered. Placing him in my killfile, and
ignoring him, leaves the presumption that even though I might not agree with
him.. I have not felt it necessary, nor do I have the courage to speak out against
him. I would rather others killfile me, than accept that I should killfile him,
and perhaps have others believe I accept his poison. To my mind, he is
not only an insult to abolition (as other abolitionists have recognized)... he
is an insult to our species. He may well be a _fine fellow_, as some have
said... but what I SEE HERE... is only evil from him.
Do you know that he has added his *giggle* of a (sic) to every mention
of 9-11, SIXTY-ONE times at the last google count. SIXTY-ONE
evil and monstrous *giggles* about the murder of 3,000 humans.
Disgusting!!!
PV
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: War with Iraq
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:31:30 +0000
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>le Thu, 13 Feb 2003 06:51:11 GMT, dans l'article
><o2gm4vcueko1kg0ut...@4ax.com>, A Planet Visitor
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>>> But you don't have to. You can add him to your killfile as everyone
>>>else already has.
>
>> Sorry, Tim... Of course I have to. Or I could not look myself in the
>mirror,
>> believing that I have left such evil unanswered.
>
>LMAO !!!
>
>Remind news:alt.activism.death-penalty again of how you're 'accountable'
>for your words, FW ... ROTFLMAO !!
>
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wrote:
>le Thu, 13 Feb 2003 06:51:11 GMT, dans l'article <o2gm4vcueko1kg0ut...@4ax.com>, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
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>>> But you don't have to. You can add him to your killfile as everyone
>>>else already has.
>
>> Sorry, Tim... Of course I have to. Or I could not look myself in the mirror,
>> believing that I have left such evil unanswered.
>
>LMAO !!!
>
>Remind news:alt.activism.death-penalty again of how you're 'accountable'
>for your words, FW ... ROTFLMAO !!
>
I believe I have accepted _accountability_ for my words... When can we
expect YOU to begin doing so? See some of my other posts to you, even
from today, which demonstrate through EXACT quotes of your words in
the past, that you do not do so.
>--
> Ayatollah desi |Superlunary and Most Exalted
> |Spiritual Leader of the Universal
> |Right to Life Church. (umm... get
> |away from me -- you filthy black
> |starving child in Africa) 'My church'
> |isn't for you.
One wonders where that 'Universal Right to Life' is, in this picture --
url:http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0302/feature2/zoom3.html
Oh... wait a minute... I think I see it behind that small brush in the
background. There on the left... see it, desi? Those two hidden eyes
of the 'provider of the Universal Right to Life,' peering from the brush.
How COULD I have missed that 'timeless, eternal, beyond everything' right
that all 'life' possesses? Too bad that 'your Church' isn't for that child.