cheap linux webcam in Oz?
Michael
available? ( v4l I guess? )
Vendor adverts and websites often dont give enough detail
to find about Linux drivers. Often the brand and model isnt
enough.
Mark
http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/
Cheers
Mark
Michael
Thanks Mark, I'm aware of that. But it doesnt include price and
Australian availability. I could make a list, then bang my
head against a wall trying to find them. Then asking vendors
for USB ids and getting puzzled looks. Name and model is not enough.
e.g. one shop near here has "EZ-cam II USB 4-in-1 $68". But do
they work on linux? I guess I could take a PC in and ask to try.
OR if really lucky, they might be able tell me the USB id so
I can check at the above URL.
Has anybody out there put a webcam on Linux recently please?
Could save me a LOT of time.
NitE
> Australian availability. I could make a list, then bang my
> head against a wall trying to find them. Then asking vendors
> for USB ids and getting puzzled looks. Name and model is not enough.
> e.g. one shop near here has "EZ-cam II USB 4-in-1 $68". But do
> they work on linux? I guess I could take a PC in and ask to try.
> OR if really lucky, they might be able tell me the USB id so
> I can check at the above URL.
>
> Has anybody out there put a webcam on Linux recently please?
> Could save me a LOT of time.
>
Michael, I would also like to know about a cheap webcam in Oz. If you
find any could ya let me know. Cheers
-NitE
one of the mob
I gave up buying webcams just in the hope they'll work.
I've got a java aplet you can put in a web page and see webcam action (under
Windows!) but Linux? Nah... It's still in Geeksville
"NitE" <ni...@fake.email.com> wrote in message
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: > Thanks Mark, I'm aware of that. But it doesnt include price and
:
scottf
> I can tell you more of what will NOT work than I can of what will work.
> I gave up buying webcams just in the hope they'll work.
> I've got a java aplet you can put in a web page and see webcam action
> (under Windows!) but Linux? Nah... It's still in Geeksville
>
>
The creative webblaster-II used to work, but they don't make 'em anymore.
I've tried the current Intel PC-camera and it doesn't work.
tel...@xenon.triode.bogus.au
This might be what you want:
http://www.everythinglinux.com.au/item/BEN99999
Ask Anthony what it is like on Linux and how long it takes
to get hold of one. At least you have a point of contact who
knows both Linux drivers and market sources.
- Tel
Christoph Willing
Harris Technology (Sydney) have Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000 for about
$230.
It uses pwc and pwcx modules (instructions at
http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/). I have it working with a Slackware
distribution using kernel 2.4.18. Its produces colour 640x480, 320x240
and 160x120 size images.
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University of Sydney
NSW 2006 Australia http://www.vislab.usyd.edu.au
Daniel Franklin
> I gave up buying webcams just in the hope they'll work.
> I've got a java aplet you can put in a web page and see webcam action (under
> Windows!) but Linux? Nah... It's still in Geeksville
My Kensington USB webcam works fine with standard kernel drivers, as do any
based on the SE401, OV511, IBM Xirlink, Philips PCAXXX chips etc... which
seems to cover about 90% of the market. Most other webcams (such as the
Dodgytech Shitcams) are supported by various other driver projects.
Basically if you check out the brand, then go to the manufacturer web site
and figure out what chip they are using, it is pretty quick and easy to find
out if it is supported under Linux (do a google search). The fact that you
need to do this is not Linux's fault, blame the manufacturer for not
publishing specs or for not bothering to write Linux drivers (e.g. the
dodgytech shitcams have NO published information, the driver was entirely
reverse-engineered).
Much better solution IMO is to use a video capture card with one of those
mini CMOS cameras... I bought an excellent colour camera in China for abou
$A35 (!!!) and it works great... over 700 pixels horizontal resolution at 25
FPS in gloriously crisp, clear colour (and it works great under Linux :-)
- Daniel
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one of the mob
I most certainly are unwilling to get into kernel recompiling (last one was
a disaster) on a perfectly good and stable system. I do have a video capture
card in the box and your idea of a CMOS camera is good. What software are
you using to grab the footage?
AJ
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Daniel Franklin
> That's about it then... I most certainly are unwilling to get into kernel
> recompiling (last one was a disaster) on a perfectly good and stable
> system.
Most distributions come with driver support for the most common webcams, but
you need to check what chip they use before buying. It's usually pretty
easy... just do a google search for the webcam brand and "Linux support",
pretty soon you'll see if it works or not.
> I do have a video capture card in the box and your idea of a CMOS camera
> is good. What software are you using to grab the footage?
I've tried a variety of techniques... I'm currently using one called
camserv, which can either use a bit of javascript at the client end (which
works on all browsers without a plug-in) or can send the video as a
multi-part JPEG (which works without plugins on Netscape and Mozilla, or
with plug-ins on Internet Explorer and others). There are several other
streaming solutions, such as mpeg4ip (streaming MPEG-4 based on Apple's
open-source QuickTime server), which requires a separate "viewer"
application, but which can handle higher frame rates. Do a search on
freshmeat.net, there are lots of alternatives.
- Daniel
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one of the mob
I got a CMOS camera this morning and I see camserv is pretty informative
too.
I'll give it a go. I've got Redhat 8.0 and although a lot of 'cameras' are
supported, none I own are!
AJ
"Daniel Franklin" <dan...@widrow.tsrc.uow.edu.au> wrote in message
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: one of the mob wrote:
:
: > That's about it then... I most certainly are unwilling to get into
kernel
: > recompiling (last one was a disaster) on a perfectly good and stable
: > system.
:
: Most distributions come with driver support for the most common webcams,
but
: you need to check what chip they use before buying. It's usually pretty
: easy... just do a google search for the webcam brand and "Linux support",
: pretty soon you'll see if it works or not.
:
: > I do have a video capture card in the box and your idea of a CMOS camera
: > is good. What software are you using to grab the footage?
:
: I've tried a variety of techniques... I'm currently using one called
: camserv, which can either use a bit of javascript at the client end (which
: works on all browsers without a plug-in) or can send the video as a
: multi-part JPEG (which works without plugins on Netscape and Mozilla, or
: with plug-ins on Internet Explorer and others). There are several other
: streaming solutions, such as mpeg4ip (streaming MPEG-4 based on Apple's
: open-source QuickTime server), which requires a separate "viewer"
: application, but which can handle higher frame rates. Do a search on
: freshmeat.net, there are lots of alternatives.
:
: - Daniel
:
: --
:
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>
> WTF does this have to do with webcams
Ironically comserver's T&C don't approve of spam!
... and they should probably run a spell checker over their site.
Michael
> Michael <gnusne...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>>Can anyone suggest a cheap USB webcam in Oz, with linux drivers
>>available? ( v4l I guess? )
> This might be what you want:
>
> http://www.everythinglinux.com.au/item/BEN99999
Hmmmm, not what I asked for, but certainly something I want.
Tiny little digital cameras that double as webcams.
I've ordered the 1.3Mpix DC1300 model - only $152.
Its an optical viewfinder, but does have flash ram, not sdram.
Looks like a nice toy from the reviews.
Thanks.
Michael
> one of the mob wrote:
>
>>I can tell you more of what will NOT work than I can of what will work.
>>I gave up buying webcams just in the hope they'll work.
>>I've got a java aplet you can put in a web page and see webcam action (under
>>Windows!) but Linux? Nah... It's still in Geeksville
>
>
> My Kensington USB webcam works fine with standard kernel drivers, as do any
> based on the SE401, OV511, IBM Xirlink, Philips PCAXXX chips etc... which
OK, thanks. I'll try it.
I was hoping someone would say "Yes, the foo model currenlly in stock at
acme is an OV511, cheap and works fine.". Will cross fingers instead :)
> seems to cover about 90% of the market. Most other webcams (such as the
> Dodgytech Shitcams) are supported by various other driver projects.
>
> Basically if you check out the brand, then go to the manufacturer web site
> and figure out what chip they are using, it is pretty quick and easy to find
> out if it is supported under Linux (do a google search). The fact that you
I've ordered the Ben-Q DC1300 sold at everythinglinux.com.au
but no luck on linux.google for it.
> Much better solution IMO is to use a video capture card with one of those
> mini CMOS cameras... I bought an excellent colour camera in China for abou
> $A35 (!!!) and it works great... over 700 pixels horizontal resolution at 25
I've done that with a monochrome CCD camera. Great for low-light.
But where do you buy the colour cmos camera in OZ for even 3 times that
price??
Daniel Franklin
>
> I've done that with a monochrome CCD camera. Great for low-light.
> But where do you buy the colour cmos camera in OZ for even 3 times that
> price??
Heh. Yes, I was impressed by the price too... I should have brought back a
suitcase full of them :)
Oatley Electronics has some reasonable priced cameras (depending on what
they have in stock - see www.oatleyelectronics.com), but still quite
expensive (and the Chinese one is much better quality than anything they are
offering). You could ask on aus.electronics to see if anyone knows anywhere
cheaper...