The United States of Europe
John Rennie
JIGSAW1695
From: Desmond Coughlan pasdespa...@zeouane.org
Date: 10/29/2002 4:58 AM Eastern Standard Time
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Le Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:58:04 -0000, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
écrit :
> Arrrrrgggggggghhh!!!!!!!!!
For once, I agree with you. This would be going too far.
Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1
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It is a distinct possibility if the EU goes on unchecked. When it does you can
go back to normal and have your own civil war.
A Planet Visitor
"John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:3Zsv9.465$bn.4...@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net...
> Arrrrrgggggggghhh!!!!!!!!!
>
LOL... Be careful what you wish for... I understand that one is in
first place. Just ahead of 'desi's Disneyland East.'
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And, on a serious note, John. I cannot believe that you are unaware
that the entire concept of the EU is evolving exactly in the direction of
the system of government in the U.S. Separate states, having laws
and rights, which will be subsumed under a 'higher law,' which is
leaning toward the wording of 'International Law,' which in effect will
act somewhat as U.S. Federal law. Taking precedence over sovereign
state law. People taking 'offense' at the connection to the wording of
'The United States of Europe,' fail to realize that such wording is exactly
the direction the EU is going. Not that I actually find that so disagreeable,
simply that I find it 'ignores the obvious,' to deny it. Although I do feel
that the U.K. stands to 'lose' in respect to power within that entity... with
Germany and France rather overpowering the U.K., in the expansion
Eastward. This, IMHO, will not be a swift process, but more likely
a slow erosion of influence. The influence of Germany and France in that
area, simply because of the direction of expansion, is obviously going
to be stronger than that of the U.K. In fact, the 'draft' outline of the
Constitution prepared by the group led by d'Estaing, considers the
'unification' of foreign, security and defense policies. With Solana assuming
somewhat a role of Secretary of State, and an elected President.
I really think that in the future -- perhaps by 2010 -- the U.S. will
have left NATO -- and NATO will become the Federal military defense
arm of whatever this new entity is called. And I believe the time is
long past for the U.S. to have left NATO.
PS -- In effect, the U.K. will become as the State of Montana is in the
U.S. (that's a joke... do not take all my comments so seriously).
PV
John Rennie
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
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I won't take them all seriously but I agree with your overall comment
that we are proceeding towards a federal government. The concept is
to make states, regional governments or whatever out of the 30 or
so countries that will finally join Desmond's Europe. I suppose my
biggest argument against this - is the artificiality of it all. Committees,
commissions, working parties all run by civil servants. Huge amounts
of planning based on the usual incomplete information and absolutely
bound to go wrong. Countries come into being regardless of planning;
then USA wasn't planned, it evolved. You light-heartedly used the
example of Montana above. Montana has a darn sight more in
common with Massachusetts than England has with Romania - any
plan that can encompass both entities has to be regarded with the
utmost suspicion. However it is not all gloomy news. Chirac says
Blair has been rude to him. Good! Blair needed a boost here.
St.George
"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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<snip claptrap and drivel of desperate wannabe frog>
You know, Desmond, I was going to write a devastating riposte to your post,
interspersing derogatory remarks about the French (and probably the Scots
and Irish) with witty rebuttal, and references to your personal inadequacy
and inferiority complexes (complexi?). Additionally, I intended to sprinkle
in a couple of observations about French war history, lack of freedoms and
the recent attempt to criminalise the use (even in private conversation!!!)
of certain English words and phrases. I would then have culminated with a
wide-ranging condemnation of all things French, using traditional
stereotypes in a mocking, yet urbane fashion, before coming to a crescendo
with a cacophony of personal abuse and cutting irony.
However, it then occurred to me that I just couldn't be arsed.
Sorry.
dirtdog
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote:
<snipped quite disappointing anti-British rant>
I should have expected such a post from Jiggy, Desmond.
Obviously with some abysmal spelling, grammar and sentence
construction thrown in for good measure.
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: The United States of Europe
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:56:32 +0000
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>Le Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:53:24 +0000 (UTC), St.George
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>{ snip typical insecure little Engländer's diatribe }
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>> However, it then occurred to me that I just couldn't be arsed.
>>
>> Sorry.
>
>That's quite all right, Mark. We can start with these 'documents' that
>we're obliged to have on us at all times.
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: The United States of Europe
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:41:15 +0000
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>Le Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:46:26 +0000, dirtdog <dir...@fruffrant.com> a écrit
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>><snipped quite disappointing anti-British rant>
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>> I should have expected such a post from Jiggy, Desmond.
>>
>> Obviously with some abysmal spelling, grammar and sentence
>> construction thrown in for good measure.
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>Damn you, dirt, you've 'bitch-slapped' (sic) me !! ;-)
>
>Seriously, it wasn't 'anti-British'. Just realist. Britain does not count
>in Europe, but then this what most of you want, if opinion polls are to be
>believed.
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: The United States of Europe
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:25:49 +0000
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>Le 29 Oct 2002 12:58:49 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
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>{ snip }
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>>> For once, I agree with you. This would be going too far.
>
>> It is a distinct possibility if the EU goes on unchecked. When it does you
>can
>> go back to normal and have your own civil war.
>
>'Normal' ? My dear Jigsaw, Europe has not seen an armed conflict in fifty-
>seven years. For us, peace _is_ 'normal'.
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: The United States of Europe
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:22:51 +0000
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>Le Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:08:03 -0000, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
>écrit :
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>{ snip dumbfuck American's attempts to 'analyse' European geopolitics }
>
>> I won't take them all seriously but I agree with your overall comment
>> that we are proceeding towards a federal government. The concept is
>> to make states, regional governments or whatever out of the 30 or
>> so countries that will finally join Desmond's Europe. I suppose my
>> biggest argument against this - is the artificiality of it all.
>Committees,
>> commissions, working parties all run by civil servants. Huge amounts
>> of planning based on the usual incomplete information and absolutely
>> bound to go wrong. Countries come into being regardless of planning;
>> then USA wasn't planned, it evolved. You light-heartedly used the
>> example of Montana above. Montana has a darn sight more in
>> common with Massachusetts than England has with Romania - any
>> plan that can encompass both entities has to be regarded with the
>> utmost suspicion. However it is not all gloomy news. Chirac says
>> Blair has been rude to him. Good! Blair needed a boost here.
>
>Seen through the eyes of an Englishman, in love with the 'special relation-
>ship' with the United States.
>
>You should know, John, that here in France, what the British Prime Minister
>says, is regarded with bemusement, a 'brin' of disdain, and a fairly large
>pinch of salt. The English (for most Europeans, 'England' is the same thing
>as 'Britain') are an anachronism, a backward people obsessed with their
>monarchy, with their 'sovereignty' (the irony being that they don't mind
>ceding a fair degree of that, to the Americans), with having the Queen's
>face on their money.
>
>Fine. I say let England go it alone. Let her become (or 'remain') the
>51st state of the United States. Why bother if she chooses to remain
>outside the most ambitious political experiment in the last two centuries ?
>
>When one of the UK's 'opt-out' clauses is mentioned here in France, the
>reaction is a shrug, and a 'C'est les Anglais'. I well remember François
>Mitterand's comments when Eurostar was approaching fruition. He quipped
>that after the French Eurostar had skelped its way from Paris to Calais at
>speeds approaching 300 km/h (190 mph), the passengers would, once on the
>British side, have time to admire the scenery as Britain's laughably old
>rolling stock trundled through Kent at 80 mph. That comment went down like
>a lead balloon in the UK, but caused a great degree of hilarity here in
>France. The Anglo-Saxon world is fascinated by France, and fears her, but
>the situation is not the same vice versa. To my knowledge, the French have
>not constructed a site equivalent to http://www.fuckfrance.com/. Blair
>is _relatively_ well regarded here, as he is a francophile, and speaks
>damn good French for an Englishman, but in general, what England thinks,
>'on s'en fout' ('we don't care').
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: The United States of Europe
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:58:19 +0000
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>Le Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:58:04 -0000, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
>écrit :
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>> Arrrrrgggggggghhh!!!!!!!!!
>
>For once, I agree with you. This would be going too far.
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A Planet Visitor
"St.George" <ama.99@bt££internet.00com> wrote in message news:apn71k$5bb$1...@helle.btinternet.com...
When it comes to 'things' of a geopolitical nature, desi is at best ignorant,
and at worst corrupt. He prefers a free-form philosophizing that meanders
across the consciousness, destroying all rational thought in its wake, much
as a brush fire destroys the most ancient and majestic stand of tree. By the
time desi scratches his ass, clears his throat, and tells us how great France
is, we've already lost interest.
PV
Incubus
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you can
> > go back to normal and have your own civil war.
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fifty-
> seven years. For us, peace _is_ 'normal'.
Britain is part of Europe Desi
JIGSAW1695
Date: 10/30/2002 2:20 PM Eastern Standard Time
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I believr he means the Falklands, Dezi!
Incubus
John Rennie
Does he? Well do you and he think that the Falklands are part of Europe,
Jiggy?
John Rennie
"Incubus" <inc...@river.styx> wrote in message
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Ah a misspell. You must be referring to the Ryder cup.
John Rennie
> Le Thu, 31 Oct 2002 05:51:21 -0000, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com>
a écrit :
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> { snip }
>
> >> I believr he means the Falklands, Dezi!
>
> > Does he? Well do you and he think that the Falklands are part of
Europe,
> > Jiggy?
>
part
> of Europe.
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Whereas, of course as we all know, Switzerland isn't.
Incubus
he means that we thought argentina for the faulklands John
John Rennie
> Le Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:49:38 -0000, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com>
a écrit :
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> { snip }
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> >> It's in fact rather a good point. Martinique, for example, is legally
> > part
> >> of Europe.
>
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> Martinique is part of France. France is in Europe. Jesus, you're
> becoming as obtuse and disingenuous as LDB.
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Martinique is NOT part of France - it is a island in the Caribbean. It is
situated midway between the self governing islands of Dominica and St Lucia.
These island are self governing because they obtained their independence
from the UK. Only a idiot such as you would try to pretend that Martinique
is a part of France. You'll be saying that Gibraltar is a part of Britain
next.
John Rennie
> Le Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:34:35 -0000, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com>
a écrit :
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> { snip }
>
> >> Martinique is part of France. France is in Europe. Jesus, you're
> >> becoming as obtuse and disingenuous as LDB.
>
is
> > situated midway between the self governing islands of Dominica and St
Lucia.
> > These island are self governing because they obtained their independence
> > from the UK. Only a idiot such as you would try to pretend that
Martinique
> > is a part of France.
>
> an effect. Now, I just laugh and say, 'LDB's little lapdog is throwing a
> hissy fit again'.
I find you and PV to be much closer together than I am
with either of you. Look at his continual claims the UN laws
gave legality to the creation of Israel. I don't accept that, you
do. What we have here is the deep reluctance of France to give
up its imperial past, a reluctance I hasten to add that is partway
shared by the UK and which I do my best to criticise.
>
> You fucking spastic, of course Martinique is part of France.
If you call me or anyone else a spastic again, I shall feel bound
to reveal certain information that you have confided to me by
e-mail and in person. Now I mean what I say - don't you ever
let that word be used again. I have personal reasons why it
offends me and you will have to accept them.
It doesn't
> have to be fucking _'attached'_ to France, for it to be France. From the
> website of the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office [1], 'Martinique,
> France ...'[2] (honorory counsul).
>
> From the CIA World Factbook[3] ...
>
> 'Martinique:
> Government type: NA
> Capital: Fort-de-France
> Administrative divisions:
> none (overseas department of France)
> Independence:
> none (overseas department of France)'
>
> From the website of the various French government departments (Minister of
the
> Interior, Supreme Court, Council of Ministers), affirming Martinique's
status
> as an integral part of the Vth Republic[4] ... you're born in Martinique,
you
> can vote in French elections, you can become President[5], you pay taxes
to
> Paris ...
>
> If Martinique isn't part of France, you tosser, then Alaska and Hawaii
aren't
> part of the United States.
Personally having been to Hawaii, I don't think that it should be
part of the USA. Many native born Hawaiis agree with me - they
are poorly treated compared with their 'American' counterparts
economically and socially. Hawaii was a part of the American
Pacific Empire, a colony that has been fored into a relationship
that suits the rest of the USA fine but not Hawaii. Just like
Martinique, the force is not with them. As for Alaska there
was hardly a native population to worry about and therefore
not really a good example of colonisation.
>
> Now why don't you crawl back up LDB's arse, and wait for his permission,
> before making such a spectacle of yourself.
You know perhaps I won't wait for you to use the
word spastic as a term of abuse again. You have
degenerated so far as to not be worth any consideration
whatsoever. PV says you have no pity. He's wrong,
you have an enormous amount of pity - all of it
directed towards yourself. You just haven't got
any to spare for others.
JIGSAW1695
Date: 10/31/2002 8:37 AM Eastern Standard Time
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Le Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:04:39 -0000, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
écrit :
{ snip }
As I mentioned in the e-mail that I just sent you, John, I hereby offer my
apologies if my use of 'that' word offended you. I am sorry.
Along with this apology, comes the assertion that I cannot, and will not
allow you or anyone else to dictate my language on this, or on any other
group.
I have given you an undertaking not to use 'that' word in any posts in which
I follow up to you, as you seem to feel so strongly about it. However, my
right to free speech, and my strong belief in that right, for everyone,
irrespective of how 'offensive' one's words might be considered, means that
I cannot, not now, nor ever, give in to blackmail.
Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1
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Hence youSubject: Re: The United States of Europe
From: Desmond Coughlan pasdespa...@zeouane.org
Date: 10/31/2002 8:37 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <slrnas2che.24a8....@lievre.voute.net>
Le Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:04:39 -0000, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
écrit :
{ snip }
As I mentioned in the e-mail that I just sent you, John, I hereby offer my
apologies if my use of 'that' word offended you. I am sorry.
Along with this apology, comes the assertion that I cannot, and will not
allow you or anyone else to dictate my language on this, or on any other
group.
I have given you an undertaking not to use 'that' word in any posts in which
I follow up to you, as you seem to feel so strongly about it. However, my
right to free speech, and my strong belief in that right, for everyone,
irrespective of how 'offensive' one's words might be considered, means that
I cannot, not now, nor ever, give in to blackmail.
Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1
===============================
Hence, your comment to me :
"Date: 10/31/2002 8:37 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <slrnas2che.24a8....@lievre.voute.net>
As I mentioned in the e-mail that I just sent you, John, I hereby offer my
apologies if my use of 'that' word offended you. I am sorry.
Along with this apology, comes the assertion that I cannot, and will not
allow you or anyone else to dictate my language on this, or on any other
group.
I have given you an undertaking not to use 'that' word in any posts in which
I follow up to you, as you seem to feel so strongly about it. However, my
right to free speech, and my strong belief in that right, for everyone,
irrespective of how 'offensive' one's words might be considered, means that
I cannot, not now, nor ever, give in to blackmail.
Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
desmond @ zeouane.org |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
http: // www . zeouane . org".
JIGSAW1695
Message-id: <slrnas2jt7.2ono....@lievre.voute.net>
Le 31 Oct 2002 15:27:33 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
{ snip newbie dumbfuck Jigsaw's reposting my post _three times_, without
adding any text }
Jigsaw ... what was that all about ?
Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1
===============================
Sorry. AOL strikes again.
dirtdog
<j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
<snipped>
>If you call me or anyone else a spastic again, I shall feel bound
>to reveal certain information that you have confided to me by
>e-mail and in person. Now I mean what I say - don't you ever
>let that word be used again. I have personal reasons why it
>offends me and you will have to accept them.
>
>
Oh dear, oh dear.
How very sad. How very, very sad.
That little paragraph, John, has displayed quite a different side to
you, but a side which explains several of your previous, pompous,
bully-boy outbursts which are usually quickly replaced by the type of
dim amiability which has always led me to take interest in your posts.
Nevertheless, I had never thought of you before as a cunt. A truly
nasty, vindictive little cunt in the mould of Jiggy. A person so
insecure in his own world that he confuses the thrust and parry of
usenet posting with the real world, and would seek to cause each to
overlap into one another.
But you are...
A person has taken you as a friend and you now threaten to betray
their trust as a means of wielding power. That is not the type of
behaviour which would make me wish to have anything to do with a
person, and you are no exception.
Until I feel I can read your posts without feeling sick, I shall be
pretending you don't exist.
BTW, you might wish to have a quick word with your boyfriend
<snip>
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: The United States of Europe
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:43:35 +0000
>
>Le 31 Oct 2002 15:27:33 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
>
>{ snip newbie dumbfuck Jigsaw's reposting my post _three times_, without
> adding any text }
>
>Jigsaw ... what was that all about ?
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>desmond @ zeouane.org |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: The United States of Europe
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:37:20 +0000
>
>Le Thu, 31 Oct 2002 05:51:21 -0000, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> I believr he means the Falklands, Dezi!
>
>> Does he? Well do you and he think that the Falklands are part of Europe,
>> Jiggy?
>
>It's in fact rather a good point. Martinique, for example, is legally part
>of Europe.
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>desmond @ zeouane.org |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: The United States of Europe
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:52:33 +0000
>
>Le Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:49:38 -0000, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> It's in fact rather a good point. Martinique, for example, is legally
>> part
>>> of Europe.
>
>> Whereas, of course as we all know, Switzerland isn't.
>
>May I just say that you're getting _very_ petty these days, Rennie ?
>
>Martinique is part of France. France is in Europe. Jesus, you're
>becoming as obtuse and disingenuous as LDB.
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>desmond @ zeouane.org |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: The United States of Europe
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:37:51 +0000
>
>Le Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:04:39 -0000, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>As I mentioned in the e-mail that I just sent you, John, I hereby offer my
>apologies if my use of 'that' word offended you. I am sorry.
>
>Along with this apology, comes the assertion that I cannot, and will not
>allow you or anyone else to dictate my language on this, or on any other
>group.
>
>I have given you an undertaking not to use 'that' word in any posts in which
>I follow up to you, as you seem to feel so strongly about it. However, my
>right to free speech, and my strong belief in that right, for everyone,
>irrespective of how 'offensive' one's words might be considered, means that
>I cannot, not now, nor ever, give in to blackmail.
>
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>desmond @ zeouane.org |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: The United States of Europe
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:18:38 +0000
>
>Le Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:08:54 +0000, Desmond Coughlan
><pasdespa...@zeouane.org> a écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>> you're born in Martinique, you can vote in French elections, you can become
>> President[5], you pay taxes to Paris ...
>
>Also ...
>
> 'Police have released some two hundred and eighty holidaymakers
> taken hostage by staff in a resort on the French island of
> Martinique.' [1]
>
> 'Seventeen people were arrested overnight during rioting and
> looting on the French Caribbean island of Martinique ...'[2]
>
> 'There have been protests against Mr Le Pen when he changed
> planes at the airport on the French Carribean island of
> Martinique.'[3]
>
>You can get more like that, here ...
>url:http://newssearch.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/results.pl?scope=newsukfs&tab=new
s&q=martinique&x=0&y=4
>
>The last time I checked, 'French' meant 'pertaining to France', although
>if you'd like, I could check the definition again, for you. Perhaps it
>now means, 'only that land physically part of metropolitan France'. Who
>knows, maybe you're using the same 'dictionary' as your master, which has
>'quote' as a noun, and which contains such gems as 'passifism', 'wood' as
>the conditional auxilary, and 'portentious' as a real word.
>
><fx: shakes head in dismay ...>
>
>[1] url:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/211128.stm
>[2] url:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/monitoring/57495.stm
>[3] url:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/42776.stm
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>desmond @ zeouane.org |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: The United States of Europe
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:08:54 +0000
>
>Le Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:34:35 -0000, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> Martinique is part of France. France is in Europe. Jesus, you're
>>> becoming as obtuse and disingenuous as LDB.
>
>> Martinique is NOT part of France - it is a island in the Caribbean. It is
>> situated midway between the self governing islands of Dominica and St
>Lucia.
>> These island are self governing because they obtained their independence
>> from the UK. Only a idiot such as you would try to pretend that
>Martinique
>> is a part of France.
>
>You know, John, there was a time when little outbursts like the above, had
>an effect. Now, I just laugh and say, 'LDB's little lapdog is throwing a
>hissy fit again'.
>
>You fucking spastic, of course Martinique is part of France. It doesn't
>have to be fucking _'attached'_ to France, for it to be France. From the
>website of the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office [1], 'Martinique,
>France ...'[2] (honorory counsul).
>
>From the CIA World Factbook[3] ...
>
> 'Martinique:
> Government type: NA
> Capital: Fort-de-France
> Administrative divisions:
> none (overseas department of France)
> Independence:
> none (overseas department of France)'
>
>From the website of the various French government departments (Minister of
>the
>Interior, Supreme Court, Council of Ministers), affirming Martinique's status
>as an integral part of the Vth Republic[4] ... you're born in Martinique, you
>can vote in French elections, you can become President[5], you pay taxes to
>Paris ...
>
>If Martinique isn't part of France, you tosser, then Alaska and Hawaii aren't
>part of the United States.
>
>Now why don't you crawl back up LDB's arse, and wait for his permission,
>before making such a spectacle of yourself.
>
>[1] url:http://www.fco.gov.uk/
>[2]
>url:http://195.166.119.98/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/Sho
wPage&c=Page&cid=1007029390518&a=KContact&aid=1013618443780
>[3] url:http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/mb.html
>[4] url:http://larecherche.service-public.fr/ladoc.cgi?text=statut+martinique
>[5] strictly speaking, I can find no constitutional impediment to a foreign-
> born French national, from becoming President of the Republic
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>desmond @ zeouane.org |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
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>
> "Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
> news:slrnas23q5.22sq....@lievre.voute.net...
> > Le Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:34:35 -0000, John Rennie
<j.re...@ntlworld.com>
> a écrit :
> >
> > { snip }
> >
> > You fucking spastic, of course Martinique is part of France.
>
> If you call me or anyone else a spastic again, I shall feel bound
> to reveal certain information that you have confided to me by
> e-mail and in person. Now I mean what I say - don't you ever
> let that word be used again. I have personal reasons why it
> offends me and you will have to accept them.
> {snip}
> You know perhaps I won't wait for you to use the
> word spastic as a term of abuse again. You have
> degenerated so far as to not be worth any consideration
> whatsoever. PV says you have no pity. He's wrong,
> you have an enormous amount of pity - all of it
> directed towards yourself. You just haven't got
> any to spare for others.
If, as I suspect, you have taken advantage of another posters confidence
and are attempting to exert power over him/her, then you should castigated
by your peers. Consider yourself castigated you fucking spastic. You have
lost
all rights to any consideration that you may have been entitled to by saying
what you have above.
Yours in continuing spasticity and eternal hope for an apology to the group
Stand over merchant
WooF w00f WooF
A Planet Visitor
"dirtdog" <dir...@fruffrant.com> wrote in message news:pmo3sugd6fs6qptrl...@4ax.com...
to desi and you... when it appeared quite appropriate in the manner
used. While YOU have used it --
1) "Oh dear, you do look like a fucking spastic.."
2) "The spastic holding a party will boast of all the top DJ's"
3) "Heh. Spastic fingers, PV?"
4) "Ho hum. It's like trying to argue with a spastic."
5) "What's that you used to say about spastic fingers?"
6) "Spag - Spastic"
One can find this same argument in 'Re: aadp's 'one in ten,' my post
2002-06-02 15:45:56 PST. Why not quote MY use of it rather what
you imply?
desi uses the terms 'spastic' and 'retard' almost as a matter or rote.
The problem is that when one 'replies' to his obscene use of those
words, they ALSO show up in a google search under the handle
of the one replying, even though they did not use the term. The
real proof is to examine EACH post to see WHO used the term.
desi wins... hands down.
And truly... if ANYONE is a 'cunt' here... it is YOU, Louise. You've
always been one... since day one... admittedly so. In truth, I hardly
give you a glance anymore, you have become so obviously impotent.
PV
> w00f
>
Desmond Coughlan
{ snip }
> desi uses the terms 'spastic' and 'retard' almost as a matter or rote.
Unfortunately for you, LDB, the facts show otherwise. Taking my entire
posting history for which I hold records, we find the first post was made
on 25 March 1999. Now pay attention, as we're going to be using numbers
higher than two, and you know how they cause you no end of problems.
Since that day, I have made a total of 9,235 posts to the newsgroup called
news:alt.activism.death-penalty. In that same period, the word 'spastic'
has appeared in my archives 69 times.
Note that I have no way of telling how many of those examples were made in
this newsgroup. Nor can I tell you how many were made _by me_, as the
'articles' files that I keep on record, also record the text of posts to which
I follow up. So we have ...
des...@lievre.voute.net % grep "Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-\
penalty" usenet/articles*|wc -l
9235
des...@lievre.voute.net % grep -i "spastic" usenet/articles* | wc \
-l
69
So let's be generous, and say that most of those 69 occurences were my
work. That still leaves us with a grand total of 0.75% Less than eight-
tenths of a percent of my posts, contain the word 'spastic'. If we look
at the certainty that a lot of those occurences were in posts to which I
was responding, or even in 'quoted-quoted' text (i.e. I was responding to
someone who had left _my_ text in from a previous post), then we have
around 0.38%. Less than a half of one percent.
Now, just for 'fun' (insofar as spanking your redneck arse is 'fun'), let's
consider your posts for the same period. Since 25 March 1999 (yes, I know
you weren't posting then, but to be fair), google counts 12,300 posts [1].
Of those 12,300 ... how many contained one of your stock and rote insults ?
Let's take the criteria 'mental', or 'insane' 'spastic' [2], or 'moron', or
'idiot', 'sick', or 'fuckwit'. Why, shiver me timbers, google says that
the total comes to 2,250 [3] ! That means ... 18.3% of your posts, contains
some childish and rote insult.
Put another way, you use your rather limited, Russian-peasant stock of
insults, approximately 48 (yes, _forty-eight_!!) times more often than I
use the word 'spastic'.
In short, you are _forty-eight_ times more insulting than I. No one here
will need to be told that you're four hundred and eighty times more stupid,
or four thousand eight hundred times more of a sickening, despicable,
perverted, lying cunt, but I'm sure that the huge, humiliating, humongous, u
and wildly hilarious spanking that I have just delivered, has cheered up many
on this newsgroup, as much as it has me [4]. This one was almost as enjoyable as
demonstrating that posting data to a newsgroup, does not constitute 'plagiarizm' (sic),
when one provides the sources for those data, irrespective of how much you'd
like to think otherwise.
Feel free to perform a Saddam Hussein Special, and claim victory in the
face of overwhelming defeat. Or put this one into the 'desi mindless
drivel' collective reply. That way, you can pretend that it never happened.
Rest assured that the rest of news:alt.activism.death-penalty won't forget
it ... and you know what ? I might just remove X-No-Archive: from the headers
of this one ... 'cos it was soooo much fun.
Spank ... spank ... spank ...
{ snip }
[1] url:http://groups.google.com/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&as_ugroup=alt.activism.death-penalty&as_uauthors=Planet%20Visitor&lr=&as_drrb=b&as_mind=25&as_minm=3&as_miny=1999&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=11&as_maxy=2002&hl=fr
[2] yes, I know that you rarely use it, but then we _did_ count a lot of
instances where I didn't say it
[3] url:http://groups.google.com/groups?as_oq=mental%20insane%20spastic%20moron%20idiot%20sick%20fuckwit&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_ugroup=alt.activism.death-penalty&as_uauthors=Planet%20Visitor&lr=&as_drrb=b&as_mind=25&as_minm=3&as_miny=1999&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=11&as_maxy=2002&hl=fr
[4] of course you're 'unpopular', you thick tosser. What do you expect from
someone who uses emotional blackmail where it will work, and threats
when it doesn't ? [5]
[5] wished for any abolitionists to be murdered lately ?
Jim Watt
Gibraltar is a British Overseas Territory, it may not be 'part of
Britain' but its certainly NOT part of Spain :)
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: The United States of Europe
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:09:41 +0000
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A Planet Visitor
> Le Fri, 01 Nov 2002 06:00:52 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> > desi uses the terms 'spastic' and 'retard' almost as a matter or rote.
>
> Unfortunately for you, LDB, the facts show otherwise. Taking my entire
> posting history for which I hold records, we find the first post was made
> on 25 March 1999. Now pay attention, as we're going to be using numbers
> higher than two, and you know how they cause you no end of problems.
>
> Since that day, I have made a total of 9,235 posts to the newsgroup called
> news:alt.activism.death-penalty. In that same period, the word 'spastic'
> has appeared in my archives 69 times.
>
called someone else that name, while it shows up 39 times in a search
on my handle, and practically every time it was NOT part of MY post,
but part of another's comment. That is the problem with ALL of this
mumbo-jumbo. You KNOW that you use 'spastic' and 'retard' more
than ANY OTHER poster in this group.
> Note that I have no way of telling how many of those examples were made in
> this newsgroup. Nor can I tell you how many were made _by me_, as the
> 'articles' files that I keep on record, also record the text of posts to which
> I follow up. So we have ...
>
> des...@lievre.voute.net % grep "Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-\
> penalty" usenet/articles*|wc -l
> 9235
> des...@lievre.voute.net % grep -i "spastic" usenet/articles* | wc \
> -l
> 69
>
> So let's be generous, and say that most of those 69 occurences were my
> work.
You mean ''Let's be HONEST, and recognize that probably 68 were
my 'occurences' (sic)"
> That still leaves us with a grand total of 0.75% Less than eight-
> tenths of a percent of my posts, contain the word 'spastic'. If we look
> at the certainty that a lot of those occurences were in posts to which I
> was responding, or even in 'quoted-quoted' text (i.e. I was responding to
> someone who had left _my_ text in from a previous post), then we have
> around 0.38%. Less than a half of one percent.
>
Actually, when looking at 'specific' 'occurences' (sic) of your use, we
find that you are never RESPONDING to another using it, but ALWAYS
being the first to use it.
> Now, just for 'fun' (insofar as spanking your redneck arse is 'fun'), let's
> consider your posts for the same period. Since 25 March 1999 (yes, I know
> you weren't posting then, but to be fair), google counts 12,300 posts [1].
>
> Of those 12,300 ... how many contained one of your stock and rote insults ?
> Let's take the criteria 'mental', or 'insane' 'spastic' [2], or 'moron', or
> 'idiot', 'sick', or 'fuckwit'. Why, shiver me timbers, google says that
> the total comes to 2,250 [3] ! That means ... 18.3% of your posts, contains
> some childish and rote insult.
>
Great Scott... you compare your use of 'one' word, with my use of a half-
dozen. And it is clear that 'fuckwit,' is not of my creation. I certainly
use 'insane,' 'idiot,' and 'sick,' probably more toward you than anyone
else... because if the shoe fits... wear it. Your behavior is highly
erratic, to be kind. And pathological to be honest.
> Put another way, you use your rather limited, Russian-peasant stock of
> insults, approximately 48 (yes, _forty-eight_!!) times more often than I
> use the word 'spastic'.
>
Ah, but I did not use the word 'spastic,' except 4 or 5 times. I believe
that is the word we are examining here. Nor would I use that word,
if someone actually found it offended them personally... I'd simply
call them 'stupid,' if I found their argument to be stupid. You have
this rare quality of 'arrogant insulting,' as you presumed with John's
comment.
> In short, you are _forty-eight_ times more insulting than I.
No one could be more insulting than you, sport. You insult the
ENTIRE human condition, rather than presume you are insulting one
particular individual.... for example, your words, only recently --
----------------------------------------------------------
1) "When we as abolitionists, gaze down into the pit, and see the teeming
mass of deathies. When we shield our noses from the fetid stench of
rotting corpses mixed with the fresh smell of semen. When we look upon
their squat, evil faces, and yellow hate-filled eyes ... we, as dwellers
of the Light, have a moral duty to lift them from their vile, repulsive,
bestial fantasies. We must show them that orgasming over death, is not
the way that they show their humanity.
We are their betters. Unquestionably better. They dwell in the darkness.
We must bring them to the Light."
2) "I engage in 'abuse' of deathies as a matter of course. That's what they're
there for. `echo $DEITY` gave them to us, much as She gave sparrows to
the domestic cat. They're our playthings. They have no relevance in the
real world, except to remind us of the dark side to human nature, that can
exist in all of us. They're like child rapists. Nazis. Torturers of
small animals.
All this pretence of 'let's be civil to one another' is nauseating. How can
you be 'civil' to garbage ?"
3) "The deathies will look upon his departure, wipe the saliva from their chins,
and go back to masturbating over images of the 'gurney' (sic), or the
electric chair. We, the moral masters, the abolitionists, must show them
the huge damage that they have done, by driving out the only reasonable
one in their filthy midst."
-------------------------------------------------------------------
In fact, quite clearly admitting that you 'abuse' in your Muslim zealotry,
an entire class of humans, not just those particular humans that may
strike you as different... but an ENTIRE CLASS OF HUMANS. And I
find such behavior from you to be cancerous bile. YOU SPECIFICALLY.
Thus, your words must be multiplied by EVERY retentionist. Since every
insult, in respect to the words you've offered, I might have provided
has been against INDIVIDUALS. Never have I claimed ALL abolitionists
were any of those words... but certainly YOU have applied those words
to mean EVERY retentionist.
> No one here
> will need to be told that you're four hundred and eighty times more stupid,
> or four thousand eight hundred times more of a sickening, despicable,
> perverted, lying cunt, but I'm sure that the huge, humiliating, humongous, u
> and wildly hilarious spanking that I have just delivered, has cheered up many
> on this newsgroup, as much as it has me [4]. This one was almost as enjoyable as
> demonstrating that posting data to a newsgroup, does not constitute 'plagiarizm' (sic),
> when one provides the sources for those data, irrespective of how much you'd
> like to think otherwise.
>
GIMMICK # 1 -- Desi claims 'grammar victory.'
GIMMICK # 5 -- Desi provides a bigoted insult to a certain segment of our species.
GIMMICK # 8 -- Desi provides 'mindless drivel.'
> Feel free to perform a Saddam Hussein Special, and claim victory in the
> face of overwhelming defeat. Or put this one into the 'desi mindless
> drivel' collective reply. That way, you can pretend that it never happened.
> Rest assured that the rest of news:alt.activism.death-penalty won't forget
> it ... and you know what ? I might just remove X-No-Archive: from the headers
> of this one ... 'cos it was soooo much fun.
>
> Spank ... spank ... spank ...
>
Ah yes.. the old 'plagiarism.'
> { snip }
>
> [1]
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&as_ugroup=alt.activism.death-penalty&as_uauthors=Planet%20Visitor&lr=&
as_drrb=b&as_mind=25&as_minm=3&as_miny=1999&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=11&as_maxy=2002&hl=fr
> [2] yes, I know that you rarely use it, but then we _did_ count a lot of
> instances where I didn't say it
> [3]
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?as_oq=mental%20insane%20spastic%20moron%20idiot%20sick%20fuckwit&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_ug
roup=alt.activism.death-penalty&as_uauthors=Planet%20Visitor&lr=&as_drrb=b&as_mind=25&as_minm=3&as_miny=1999&as_maxd=1&a
s_maxm=11&as_maxy=2002&hl=fr
> [4] of course you're 'unpopular', you thick tosser. What do you expect from
> someone who uses emotional blackmail where it will work, and threats
> when it doesn't ? [5]
LOL... You are despised by those who hold to the same argument, in
respect to the DP as you do. You are recognized as a pariah among
them. The worst 'friend' they could have. They find you to be as
helpful to their cause as Chernobyl was to the cause of 'safe nuclear
power.' To abolition what Mt. Vesuvius was to Pompeii. A huge
cancerous eruption on the face of humanity, accompanied by
billowing, choking clouds of sulfuric hate. The hate-monger to what
can be a very 'moral' argument... made 'impure' by your presence here.
Abolitionists hang their head in embarrassment at your every post...
and wish they could find a way to make you 'disappear.' Your
hysterical rages demonstrate that you are unable to view this
subject in a rational way. It is all 'screaming from the Pulpit of your
religious fervor,' with that 'fire and brimstone' harangue, that constitutes
your entire contribution here, and causes chagrin from others. As
demonstrated by your own words. Did I forget to use the word
'maniac'? If so, let me clearly state that I find your behavior to closely
parallel that of a 'religious maniac.' Standing on a corner, screaming
that 'all you sinners are doomed to eternal hell'!!!!
> [5] wished for any abolitionists to be murdered lately ?
Hardly... although you have often appeared to wish for all retentionists to be
murdered, rather than society execute one murderer. It seems to be
implied in your very words above.
PV
> --
> Ayatollah Desmond Coughlan |Superlunary and Most Exalted
|Spiritual Leader of the Universal
|Right to Life Church. (umm... get
|away from me -- you filthy black
|starving child in Africa) 'My church'
|isn't for you.
dirtdog
<abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
<snipped>
>You mean ''Let's be HONEST, and recognize that probably 68 were
>my 'occurences' (sic)"
>
I'm sure you're reveling [sic] in this, PV!
My Lord. What a fuckwit you are...
<PV whimpering at his godd, hard hiding snipped>
dirtdog
<abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
<snipped>
>You mean ''Let's be HONEST, and recognize that probably 68 were
>my 'occurences' (sic)"
>
I'm sure you're reveling [sic] in this, PV!
My Lord. What a fuckwit you are...
<PV whimpering at his good, hard hiding snipped>
dirtdog
wrote:
><PV whimpering at his godd, hard hiding snipped>
I see the post didn't cancel, then.
Humph.
dirtdog
Six times...
>1) "Oh dear, you do look like a fucking spastic.."
>2) "The spastic holding a party will boast of all the top DJ's"
>3) "Heh. Spastic fingers, PV?"
>4) "Ho hum. It's like trying to argue with a spastic."
>5) "What's that you used to say about spastic fingers?"
>6) "Spag - Spastic"
What an incredible fuckwit you are, PV.
Even ignoring the fact that one of the above instances really doesn't
count (since it was simply an example of my helping out a spastic Yank
as to what 'spag' means), you really have missed the point, and as
usual, simply chosen to rattle on regarding the incorrect conclusion
you have chosen to draw from my words.
Quite clearly I was not stating that I do not use the word 'spastic'.
I was simply reminding the Non-Existant One that his boyfriend (that's
you, BTW) is also prone to utilising (ho ho ho) the word 'spastic' as
an insult.
As usual, you display that however verbose you are, however many times
you use long words the meaning of which you are unaware, however many
times you cite from academic or classical works which you have never
read, you really are very, very thick.
>
>One can find this same argument in 'Re: aadp's 'one in ten,' my post
>2002-06-02 15:45:56 PST. Why not quote MY use of it rather what
>you imply?
Sorry, PV. I do not seak Russian peasant. Perhaps you could ask a more
gifted member of your village (Jiggy, perhaps?) to translate.
<snipped requisite rant Desmond whom PV must _dream_ about>
>
>And truly... if ANYONE is a 'cunt' here... it is YOU, Louise. You've
>always been one... since day one... admittedly so. In truth, I hardly
>give you a glance anymore, you have become so obviously impotent.
Of course you don't. Never a glance...
That is why you didn't produce your above frenzied,self-justificatory
response (based, as usual, upon an obsessive trawl or Google).
That is why you hardly ever respond to my thorough, complete and total
spankings of your rosy arse with hate filled and illogical rants.
Now go and suck your ben-friend's tool, you batty crease...
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: The United States of Europe
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06:15 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 02 Nov 2002 13:32:06 +0000, dirtdog <dir...@fruffrant.com> a écrit
>:
>
>>><PV whimpering at his godd, hard hiding snipped>
>
>> I see the post didn't cancel, then.
>
>I wouldn't worry about it. LDB will have seen the word 'godd', and
>supposed that it was another 'dumbfuck Kraut' [1] who can't spell
>Gott'.
>
>
>[1] with apologies to Jürgen
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>desmond @ zeouane.org |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: The United States of Europe
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:24:44 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 02 Nov 2002 06:46:16 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip LDB's arse being skelped up and down the newsgroup, and his being
> 48 times as insulting as anyone else on the group }
>
>> 1) "When we as abolitionists, gaze down into the pit, and see the teeming
>
>You're still missing out the 'snake-haired filth', LDB. I asked you
>nicely to include it in your 'Desi [sic] spank'ed [sic] me' lists.
>
>{ snip LDB thumping his desk and crying because no one has made a
> 'FUCKING [sic] PEEP [sic]', or a 'FUCKING [sic] WHISPER [sic]' to
> defend him ... }
>
>
>--
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>desmond @ zeouane.org |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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A Planet Visitor
"dirtdog" <dir...@fruffrant.com> wrote in message news:r2j8sus0ise9cqm6n...@4ax.com...
Now, now... Louise... we are also now tracking the count of the
number of ****wits you provide.
>
> Even ignoring the fact that one of the above instances really doesn't
> count (since it was simply an example of my helping out a spastic Yank
> as to what 'spag' means), you really have missed the point, and as
> usual, simply chosen to rattle on regarding the incorrect conclusion
> you have chosen to draw from my words.
>
> Quite clearly I was not stating that I do not use the word 'spastic'.
> I was simply reminding the Non-Existant One that his boyfriend (that's
> you, BTW) is also prone to utilising (ho ho ho) the word 'spastic' as
> an insult.
>
> As usual, you display that however verbose you are, however many times
> you use long words the meaning of which you are unaware, however many
> times you cite from academic or classical works which you have never
> read, you really are very, very thick.
>
ho ho ho... think 'Boswell,' Louise.
> >
> >One can find this same argument in 'Re: aadp's 'one in ten,' my post
> >2002-06-02 15:45:56 PST. Why not quote MY use of it rather what
> >you imply?
>
> Sorry, PV. I do not seak Russian peasant. Perhaps you could ask a more
> gifted member of your village (Jiggy, perhaps?) to translate.
>
What was that??
> <snipped requisite rant Desmond whom PV must _dream_ about>
>
> >
> >And truly... if ANYONE is a 'cunt' here... it is YOU, Louise. You've
> >always been one... since day one... admittedly so. In truth, I hardly
> >give you a glance anymore, you have become so obviously impotent.
>
> Of course you don't. Never a glance...
>
> That is why you didn't produce your above frenzied,self-justificatory
> response (based, as usual, upon an obsessive trawl or Google).
>
Ummm... it appears you have become quite hysterical, my 'friend.'
> That is why you hardly ever respond to my thorough, complete and total
> spankings of your rosy arse with hate filled and illogical rants.
>
Umm... think 'mitigating circumstances,' dirt. All 16 proven references
demonstrating that a 'mitigating circumstance' can reduce the degree
of the offense. Gee, let's start with the State of Maine criminal statute -
See - http://janus.state.me.us/legis/statutes/17-A/title17-Asec203.html
Quoting -- "The fact that the person causes the death while under the
influence of extreme anger or extreme fear brought about by adequate
provocation constitutes a mitigating circumstance reducing murder to
manslaughter..." But, of course, the State of Maine criminal statutes
are for wannabees.
> Now go and suck your ben-friend's tool, you batty crease...
>
Now, now, Louise, my 'friend'... apparently your vacation didn't last long
enough for you, and you didn't quite manage to shake your homophobic
fears. You really need to resolve some 'personal' issues you have.
PV
> w00f
>
dirtdog
<abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
<snipped PV getting spanked>
>>
>Umm... think 'mitigating circumstances,' dirt. All 16 proven references
>demonstrating that a 'mitigating circumstance' can reduce the degree
>of the offense. Gee, let's start with the State of Maine criminal statute -
>See - http://janus.state.me.us/legis/statutes/17-A/title17-Asec203.html
>Quoting -- "The fact that the person causes the death while under the
>influence of extreme anger or extreme fear brought about by adequate
>provocation constitutes a mitigating circumstance reducing murder to
>manslaughter..." But, of course, the State of Maine criminal statutes
>are for wannabees.
Pleased as I am to see you raising the white flag on the actual
discussion in which we have been partaking during this thread by
veering off onto your past perceived victories, may I once more
express my amusement at how incredibly _thick_ you are.
You continue to get confused with regard to the wording of numerous US
states' homicide statutes, many of which codify as a defense [sic]
what would in relation to most offences simply be a mitigating
circumstance.
YOu may remember that some months ago, I engaged in one of my
favourite hobbies - namely taking one of your own carelessly cited
sources which you had not read and pointing out how it in fact
_contradicted_ your position.
In that case, you got confused by Ohio's homicide statutes, which are
worded very similarly to that you have linked to above. However,
rather stupidly you did not link to the original source, but rather
discussion of § 2903.03 contained in the case Rhodes v Brigano.
You may remember my administering an almighty spanking to your
wrinkly, aged arse cheeks by, with tears rolling down my face,
suggesting you read down the page from the words highlighted by your
Google search to the discussion, where the court goes into great
detail about the fact that the effect of a 'mitigating circumstance'
being codified in this manner is that it actually becomes an
affirmative defense [sic].
If I remember correctly, you responded to my educating you with the
usual rote abuse and irrelvant diversionary links followed by
half-hearted claims of victory. Presumably, you were rubbing liniment
into your arse for days.
However, whilst your first indescretion might have been excusable
(this question is quite complex for the layman), what I do find rather
amazing is that several months later, you have found a link to an
almost identical statute in Maine, and advance this, fuckwittedly
ignoring the humiliation that was heaped upon you vis a vis the Rhodes
debacle which addressed exactly the same issue.
So, if you remain confused as to this, I suggest you read Rhodes
thoroughly. Most of the discussion regarding mens rea will inevitably
fly right over your head, but you should be able to just about work
out what the learned judges are ruling upon.
url:http://www.law.emory.edu/6circuit/aug96/96a0246p.06.html
If you need any help in understanding the words, just give me a shout.
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: The United States of Europe
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:06:03 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 02 Nov 2002 22:22:08 +0000, dirtdog <dir...@fruffrant.com> a écrit
>:
>
>{ snip }
>
>> As usual, you display that however verbose you are, however many times
>> you use long words the meaning of which you are unaware, however many
>> times you cite from academic or classical works which you have never
>> read, you really are very, very thick.
>
>An excellent summing up of LDB's position on news:alt.activism.death-penalty.
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>desmond @ zeouane.org |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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A Planet Visitor
"dirtdog" <dir...@fruffrant.com> wrote in message news:3hjasu02rv834evr7...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 03 Nov 2002 04:11:20 GMT, "A Planet Visitor"
> <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
>
> <snipped PV getting spanked>
>
> >>
> >Umm... think 'mitigating circumstances,' dirt. All 16 proven references
> >demonstrating that a 'mitigating circumstance' can reduce the degree
> >of the offense. Gee, let's start with the State of Maine criminal statute -
> >See - http://janus.state.me.us/legis/statutes/17-A/title17-Asec203.html
> >Quoting -- "The fact that the person causes the death while under the
> >influence of extreme anger or extreme fear brought about by adequate
> >provocation constitutes a mitigating circumstance reducing murder to
> >manslaughter..." But, of course, the State of Maine criminal statutes
> >are for wannabees.
>
> Pleased as I am to see you raising the white flag on the actual
> discussion in which we have been partaking during this thread by
> veering off onto your past perceived victories, may I once more
> express my amusement at how incredibly _thick_ you are.
>
and are a homophobic? Actually, I presumed that you had already
admitted to each of those points. That issue has already been put
thoroughly to bed.
> You continue to get confused with regard to the wording of numerous US
> states' homicide statutes, many of which codify as a defense [sic]
> what would in relation to most offences simply be a mitigating
> circumstance.
>
Louise...Louise.. Louise... The 'wording' is what MAKES the statute
the LAW.
> YOu may remember that some months ago, I engaged in one of my
> favourite hobbies - namely taking one of your own carelessly cited
> sources which you had not read and pointing out how it in fact
> _contradicted_ your position.
>
Louise... Louise... Louise... If you are going to use 'mindless drivel,'
consult desi before doing so. Actually, you may TRY, but you cannot
claim victory, after having tasted defeat so thoroughly. Both before
and now. You can 'call' a 'mitigating circumstance' whatever you wish...
and it will ALWAYS remain a 'mitigating circumstance,' since that is the
WORDING in the Statute.
> In that case, you got confused by Ohio's homicide statutes, which are
> worded very similarly to that you have linked to above. However,
> rather stupidly you did not link to the original source, but rather
> discussion of § 2903.03 contained in the case Rhodes v Brigano.
>
I do believe we are speaking of the Maine criminal statute. Who now
is attempting to 'raise the white flag'?
> You may remember my administering an almighty spanking to your
> wrinkly, aged arse cheeks by, with tears rolling down my face,
> suggesting you read down the page from the words highlighted by your
> Google search to the discussion, where the court goes into great
> detail about the fact that the effect of a 'mitigating circumstance'
> being codified in this manner is that it actually becomes an
> affirmative defense [sic].
>
Louise... Louise... Louise... when will you learn that filling up six lines
with 'mindless drivel' is not actually 'saying anything'? In fact, it is
simply six lines of saying nothing. Whatever you presume it
'becomes,' it REMAINS, as codified in the law -- a 'mitigating
circumstance.' And you have it completely backwards... if it
is CODIFIED in the law as a 'mitigating circumstance,' then THAT
is what it is. Whatever you might argue it BECOMES, has nothing
to do with what it IS... since those TWO WORDS form the definition
of the Statute. If it was worded as 'affirmative defense,' one could
not make the argument that meant it was a 'mitigating circumstance.'
But having been WORDED in the Statute as a 'mitigating circumstance,'
then THAT is what it is, regardless of what YOU might presume it
becomes.
> If I remember correctly, you responded to my educating you with the
> usual rote abuse and irrelvant diversionary links followed by
> half-hearted claims of victory. Presumably, you were rubbing liniment
> into your arse for days.
>
Umm... I believe if you look at your words, you will find that YOUR
behavior right here, is that which you, in abject stupidity, attempt to
portray in my words.
> However, whilst your first indescretion might have been excusable
> (this question is quite complex for the layman),
Louise... Louise... Louise... Attempting to extract some tiny bit of
self-respect from the shambles of an argument (sic) filled with
your embarrassment, you have used the usual method of implying
that 'the subject is too complex' for others to understand. Clearly...
you are no Einstein, Louise. Anything you might find you have the
capacity to explain, could be understood by a five-year-old, since
that is the usual level of your 'reasoning' (sic). Claiming you have
the 'intellect' to explain something 'quite complex,' or beyond the
understanding of a layman is laughable. You have only two modes
of communication -- that of an incredibly stupid human -- and that
of a troll.
> what I do find rather
> amazing is that several months later, you have found a link to an
> almost identical statute in Maine, and advance this, fuckwittedly
> ignoring the humiliation that was heaped upon you vis a vis the Rhodes
> debacle which addressed exactly the same issue.
>
Oh, Louise... if you only could use the brains that God supposedly
gave you.. instead of stammering preposterous words such that would find
you laughed out of any courtroom in the world. This statute has been
one of the 16 proofs of 'mitigating circumstances' I have provided since
the beginning of your descent into discomfiture. The words of the statute
are CRYSTAL CLEAR. And you are as confused as a human can
be to try to twist those words -- The statute is at
"http://janus.state.me.us/legis/statutes/17-A/title17-Asec203.html
Quoting from that statute -- "The fact that the person causes the death
while under the influence of extreme anger or extreme fear brought about
by adequate provocation constitutes a mitigating circumstance reducing
murder to manslaughter..." constitutes a 'MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCE'
reducing murder to manslaughter. Exactly what you claimed COULD NOT
BE, happens TO BE.
> So, if you remain confused as to this, I suggest you read Rhodes
> thoroughly. Most of the discussion regarding mens rea will inevitably
> fly right over your head, but you should be able to just about work
> out what the learned judges are ruling upon.
>
I am not confused, my 'friend,' although you would hope others might
see me to be, in your now flustered state. It's obvious that the confusion
comes from YOU, with your attempts to offer only a diversion in place of
evidence. Obviously, the words of the Maine statute are perfectly
clear, and your 'argument' (sic) in respect to Ohio, is meaningless
and confused in respect to the law. And has certainly left you
quite agitated. It's not even worthy of discussion, since you lack the
basic capacity to understand the wording of such laws, and would
undoubtedly claim that it was "quite complex for the layman."
You would hope to draw me into another of your humiliations,
using terms you are not totally familiar with, and hope others are
unfamiliar with them as well. In point of fact, you have been roasted...
good and proper.
> url:http://www.law.emory.edu/6circuit/aug96/96a0246p.06.html
>
> If you need any help in understanding the words, just give me a shout.
>
There is no need to shout, since words from a wannabee, such as you,
could hardly be seen as relevant. You should practice your understanding
of the law. And it would not hurt to examine the construction of sentences
in English that provide for the Statutes which create such law. It has
become rather sad that even your hyperbole is no longer effective.
Being readily seen as designed to be a distraction to the actual subject
under scrutiny. As St. George observed about you long ago... when it
begins to appear that 'you care,' you lose all sense of reason. You
should really stick to what you are best at... that of being a troll. Because
as a wannabee lawyer... you leave much to be desired.
PV
> w00f
>
dirtdog
<abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
<snipped rote abuse>
>Oh, Louise... if you only could use the brains that God supposedly
>gave you.. instead of stammering preposterous words such that would find
>you laughed out of any courtroom in the world. This statute has been
>one of the 16 proofs of 'mitigating circumstances' I have provided since
>the beginning of your descent into discomfiture. The words of the statute
>are CRYSTAL CLEAR. And you are as confused as a human can
>be to try to twist those words -- The statute is at
> "http://janus.state.me.us/legis/statutes/17-A/title17-Asec203.html
>Quoting from that statute -- "The fact that the person causes the death
>while under the influence of extreme anger or extreme fear brought about
>by adequate provocation constitutes a mitigating circumstance reducing
>murder to manslaughter..." constitutes a 'MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCE'
>reducing murder to manslaughter. Exactly what you claimed COULD NOT
>BE, happens TO BE.
I take it from this pile of steaming dogshite that you haven't
digested your _own_ citation of which I reminded you.
In fact, I see not a single shred of evidence that you have so much as
looked at the case of Rhodes (which _you_ provided, BTW).
Had you done so, you might have realised that the same has occurred as
when you cluelessly tried to apply attempt statutes to rape (if only
you'd read Khan!) and ignored the logical impossibility of 'attempting
to rape' (as opposed to the legal possibility of being found guilty of
'atttempted rape'). You might also have realised that the same has
occurred as when you cluelessly asserted that only those who intended
to kill can be guilty of murder.
In short, you would have realised that you were wrong.
The obiter dicta (quick, PV! Black's! Get Black's!) of Rhodes
satisfactorily shows that the courts have skirted the logical
difficulty of a mitigating circumstance serving to reduce the level of
an offence (as opposed to reducing the punishment element of any
sentence handed out) by treating the provisions of homicide statutes
such as those in Ohio and Maine as the elevation of what is otherwise
a mitigating circumstance to an affirmative defense [sic].
And that is really all there is to it. It is the treatment of 'sudden
passion' as a defense [sic] and not its more common status as a
mitigating circumstance which causes the level of the offence to be
reduced.
What really separates this pounding you have received at my hands from
those others mentioned above is that in this case _you_ have provided
the stick with which I have beaten you.
It would be noble of me to continue attempting to teach you how the
law works in spite of your stupidity - perhaps repeating myself in the
face of the inevitable barrage of hollow abuse which will follow this
post, and attempting to clarify the concepts involved. However, in
contrast to Desmond, who in his _epic spanking_ of you earlier today
admitted an altruistic urge to educate you, I cannot claim such lofty
impulses.
I have to deal with calmly explaining complicated concepts to fuckwits
all day long. I'll be fucked if I'm going to do it at home as well.
>
<clueless repost of link to Maine's homicide statutes and more dull
rote abuse and unilateral claims of victory snipped>
A Planet Visitor
"dirtdog" <dir...@fruffrant.com> wrote in message news:lf1esu4s9e208b7uv...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 04 Nov 2002 05:18:02 GMT, "A Planet Visitor"
> <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
>
> <snipped rote abuse>
>
> >Oh, Louise... if you only could use the brains that God supposedly
> >gave you.. instead of stammering preposterous words such that would find
> >you laughed out of any courtroom in the world. This statute has been
> >one of the 16 proofs of 'mitigating circumstances' I have provided since
> >the beginning of your descent into discomfiture. The words of the statute
> >are CRYSTAL CLEAR. And you are as confused as a human can
> >be to try to twist those words -- The statute is at
> > "http://janus.state.me.us/legis/statutes/17-A/title17-Asec203.html
> >Quoting from that statute -- "The fact that the person causes the death
> >while under the influence of extreme anger or extreme fear brought about
> >by adequate provocation constitutes a mitigating circumstance reducing
> >murder to manslaughter..." constitutes a 'MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCE'
> >reducing murder to manslaughter. Exactly what you claimed COULD NOT
> >BE, happens TO BE.
>
> I take it from this pile of steaming dogshite that you haven't
> digested your _own_ citation of which I reminded you.
>
> In fact, I see not a single shred of evidence that you have so much as
> looked at the case of Rhodes (which _you_ provided, BTW).
>
a 'mitigating circumstance' cannot reduce the degree of the
crime.
> Had you done so, you might have realised that the same has occurred as
> when you cluelessly tried to apply attempt statutes to rape (if only
> you'd read Khan!) and ignored the logical impossibility of 'attempting
> to rape' (as opposed to the legal possibility of being found guilty of
> 'atttempted rape'). You might also have realised that the same has
> occurred as when you cluelessly asserted that only those who intended
> to kill can be guilty of murder.
>
> In short, you would have realised that you were wrong.
>
here is indefensible, thus you would hope to go to another area, where
you have also had a new asshole torn, but believe you might salvage
some slight bit of dignity. This one's hopeless, Louise... and you
should just 'give it up.'
> The obiter dicta (quick, PV! Black's! Get Black's!) of Rhodes
> satisfactorily shows that the courts have skirted the logical
> difficulty of a mitigating circumstance serving to reduce the level of
> an offence (as opposed to reducing the punishment element of any
> sentence handed out) by treating the provisions of homicide statutes
> such as those in Ohio and Maine as the elevation of what is otherwise
> a mitigating circumstance to an affirmative defense [sic].
>
Rather simple... regardless of how you would hope to cloud the
issue.
> And that is really all there is to it. It is the treatment of 'sudden
> passion' as a defense [sic] and not its more common status as a
> mitigating circumstance which causes the level of the offence to be
> reduced.
>
They CALL it a 'mitigating circumstance,' sport. Read the Statute.
> What really separates this pounding you have received at my hands from
> those others mentioned above is that in this case _you_ have provided
> the stick with which I have beaten you.
>
SG Seminal axiom 6)... the 'argument' of a born loser.
> It would be noble of me to continue attempting to teach you how the
> law works in spite of your stupidity - perhaps repeating myself in the
> face of the inevitable barrage of hollow abuse which will follow this
> post, and attempting to clarify the concepts involved. However, in
> contrast to Desmond, who in his _epic spanking_ of you earlier today
> admitted an altruistic urge to educate you, I cannot claim such lofty
> impulses.
>
Yeah, right... you two ding-a-lings bring your dog and pony act here,
and expect others to not see that neither of you have the least idea
what you're talking about. You should really look at your own words,
to see just how 'empty' they are.
> I have to deal with calmly explaining complicated concepts to fuckwits
> all day long. I'll be fucked if I'm going to do it at home as well.
>
My, my Louise... it must hurt to be done in by a layman. We have yet
to see you deal 'calmly' with ANY post in your entire history in this
group... this one is no exception. Just a bunch of ravings that you
are the 'expert,' and others are 'wannabees.' But the 'wannabees' keep
spanking you. Jesus, when I think of the long line of posters who have
whipped your butt. I believe that even hi1k did a job on you in the past.
> >
> <clueless repost of link to Maine's homicide statutes and more dull
> rote abuse and unilateral claims of victory snipped>
>
TRANSLATION -- "I'd better clip that Statute out quick, since it shows
that I'm a ditz."
PV
> w00f
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: The United States of Europe
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:11:39 +0000
>
>Le Tue, 05 Nov 2002 01:07:23 +0000, dirtdog <dir...@fruffrant.com> a écrit
>:
>
>{ snip _yet another_ savage beating delivered to LDB's 'ass' (sic) }
>
>> However, in contrast to Desmond, who in his _epic spanking_ of you
>> earlier today admitted an altruistic urge to educate you, I cannot claim
>> such lofty impulses.
>
>Lord, did I _enjoy_ it !!
>
>{ snip }
>
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>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>desmond @ zeouane.org |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Rev. Don Kool
Desi Coughlan wrote:
> JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> wrote:
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>>>For once, I agree with you. This would be going too far.
>>
>
>>It is a distinct possibility if the EU goes on unchecked. When it does you can
>>go back to normal and have your own civil war.
>
>
> 'Normal' ? My dear Jigsaw, Europe has not seen an armed conflict in fifty-
> seven years. For us, peace _is_ 'normal'.
Ask your european cousins in Bosnia or Ireland about that, my
misinformed young friend.
Happy to have cleared things up for you,
Don
--
*************************** You a bounty hunter?
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* Baltimore, MD * Dying ain't much of a living, boy.
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Rev. Don Kool
Desi Coughlan wrote:
> John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
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> As I mentioned in the e-mail that I just sent you, John, I hereby offer my
> apologies if my use of 'that' word offended you. I am sorry.
Desi gets another bitch-slapping. I almost feel sorry for the boy. :-(
Yours in Christ,
Rev. Don Kool
Desi Coughlan wrote:
> A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
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> { snip }
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>>desi uses the terms 'spastic' and 'retard' almost as a matter or rote.
>
>
> Unfortunately for you, LDB, the facts show otherwise. Taking my entire
> posting history for which I hold records,
Obsess much?
> we find the first post was made on 25 March 1999.
Johnny-come-lately. ROTFLOLASTD!!!
Hope this helps,