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Fall/Winter Story Challenge -- "What If...?"

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BKWillis

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Oct 14, 2002, 10:53:02 PM10/14/02
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Hey, y'all

"If 'ifs' and 'buts' were candies and nuts, we'd have Christmas every day."

We've all heard that tired old line plenty of times, right? Well, here's your
chance to actually make it mean something. Introducing the Fall/Winter Story
Challenge, where 'ifs' and 'buts' are the order of the day!

What if Nyssa had stayed behind with Tegan at the end of 'Time-Flight'?
What if the Fourth Doctor hadn't had to regenerate in 'Logopolis'?
What if the Doctor, Adric, Nyssa, and Tegan were castaways on a desert island?
What if the Doctor and Romana were 1930s archaeologists instead of Time Lords?

Are you starting to get the picture?

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is as follows:

Write a story using characters from Seasons 18-21 ('Leisure Hive' through 'Twin
Dilemma') in which some aspect of the 'canonical' timeline is altered. The
change can be as small or as major as you like. The only restrictions
regarding alterations are:

Either the characters' personalities or the setting may be _totally_
reinvented, but not both. That is to say, either the 'Doctor Who' setting or
the 'Doctor Who' characters must remain recognizable.

Stories cannot be set Outside Continuity or in any existing alternate-reality
setting. Meaning, no TTR, 'Badlands', 'Dragon Lines/Space Vixens!', 'King
Arthur in Time and Space', etc.

Stories can be any length, any style. The more ingenious your tangent, the
better!

Brownie points will be awarded for including any of the following:

-an unsent letter
-chanting
-a gift
-a premonition
-fire in the sky
-someone saying "Watch your hands."

The Challenge period will end December 31, 2002.

So, how about it? Come on, you know you want to do it...

BKWillis

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"Hier stehe Ich. Ich kann nicht anderes."
--Martin Luther

Cameron Mason

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Oct 15, 2002, 12:34:44 AM10/15/02
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BKWillis <bradk...@aol.com> wrote in message
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<snip>

> So, how about it? Come on, you know you want to do it...

Sign me up!

Cameron
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- Robert Smith?

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helen.fayle

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Oct 15, 2002, 6:30:52 AM10/15/02
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BKWillis <bradk...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Hey, y'all

>
> Write a story using characters from Seasons 18-21 ('Leisure Hive' through
'Twin
> Dilemma')

Oh *crud*. That's outside my scope. Unless "K9 and Company" counts?? ;-)

H


PAUL GADZIKOWSKI

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Oct 15, 2002, 7:12:35 AM10/15/02
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BKWillis <bradk...@aol.com> wrote:
: What if the Fourth Doctor hadn't had to regenerate in 'Logopolis'?

The premise of 'Dark Dimension', sorta.

--
Paul Gadzikowski, scar...@iglou.com since 1995
http://members.iglou.com/scarfman

By reports, Speilberg is interested in the hypothetical historical Arthur
rather than the concrete legendary Arthur.

David S. Rubin

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Oct 15, 2002, 12:18:31 PM10/15/02
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On 15 Oct 2002, BKWillis wrote:

> What if the Fourth Doctor hadn't had to regenerate in 'Logopolis'?

Peter Davison would have sued for breach of contract?


> Write a story using characters from Seasons 18-21 ('Leisure Hive' through 'Twin
> Dilemma') in which some aspect of the 'canonical' timeline is altered. The
> change can be as small or as major as you like.

Oh dear. I think that this one is out of my league; I'm not good at
modifying existing continuity :(


cheers,
David S. Rubin <dav...@touro.edu>
CCNA & MCP (2000 Pro, Server, NI, and AD)
Touro College - Lander Campus, Kew Garden Hills
(718) 820-4893


Mags L Halliday

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Oct 15, 2002, 2:03:15 PM10/15/02
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"helen.fayle" <helen...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Does it *say* in the challenge that the continuity which must be altered
*must* fall within the season 18-21 era? Anyway, what about The Five
Doctors?


--
Mags
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"If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not
to put that thing in your mouth, particularly
if the thing is cats."
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A Series of Unfortunate Events: The Wide Window


David S. Rubin

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Oct 15, 2002, 5:50:49 PM10/15/02
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On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Mags L Halliday wrote:

>
> "helen.fayle" <helen...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:UZRq9.232$v_5....@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net...
> >
> > BKWillis <bradk...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20021014225302...@mb-me.aol.com...
> > > Hey, y'all
> > >
> > > Write a story using characters from Seasons 18-21 ('Leisure Hive'
> through
> > 'Twin
> > > Dilemma')
> >
> > Oh *crud*. That's outside my scope. Unless "K9 and Company" counts?? ;-)
>
> Does it *say* in the challenge that the continuity which must be altered
> *must* fall within the season 18-21 era? Anyway, what about The Five
> Doctors?

Now that I've re-read it, no, it doesn't say that, does it? hmm...

What is _does_ say is:

> Stories cannot be set Outside Continuity or in any existing

> alternate-reality setting. ^^^^^^^^

Which seems to imply that we are still free to create our own
alternate-reality setting, as long as we keep the characters intact.


This has potential...

cheers,
DSR
~


BKWillis

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Oct 15, 2002, 9:47:57 PM10/15/02
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<David S. Rubin wrote:>
<Mags Halliday wrote:>

>> Does it *say* in the challenge that the continuity which must be altered
>> *must* fall within the season 18-21 era? Anyway, what about The Five
>> Doctors?
>
>Now that I've re-read it, no, it doesn't say that, does it? hmm...
>

Now y'all are catching on! The guidelines say what they say. How you choose
to interpret what they say is up to you.

>What is _does_ say is:
>
>> Stories cannot be set Outside Continuity or in any existing
>> alternate-reality setting. ^^^^^^^^
>
>Which seems to imply that we are still free to create our own
>alternate-reality setting, as long as we keep the characters intact.

My apologies, I phrased this badly and should've been more explicit in the
point I was making. Alternate realities, be they a very small deviation from
the 'norm' or a total reworking, are the point of this Challenge. What I meant
by the above guideline was that stories should be set Inside a continuity (of
whatever sort) and should not use a setting that's already been done. Beyond
that, 'do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law' regarding alternate
realities.

BKWillis

--

"I am a man who would not sell his soul to the Devil."
--Lt. von Leinders in 'The Cockpit'

helen.fayle

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Oct 16, 2002, 6:37:18 AM10/16/02
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Mags L Halliday <moosifer_...@halliday47.freeYADDAserve.co.uk> wrote
in message news:aohl76$7b3$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...

>
> "helen.fayle" <helen...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:UZRq9.232$v_5....@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net...
> >
> > BKWillis <bradk...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20021014225302...@mb-me.aol.com...
> > > Hey, y'all
> > >
> > > Write a story using characters from Seasons 18-21 ('Leisure Hive'
> through
> > 'Twin
> > > Dilemma')
> >
> > Oh *crud*. That's outside my scope. Unless "K9 and Company" counts?? ;-)
>
> Does it *say* in the challenge that the continuity which must be altered
> *must* fall within the season 18-21 era? Anyway, what about The Five
> Doctors?

Five Doctors did occur to me - but the *characters* from those seasons....
oh dearie, dearie me. The only period I hate more is the McCoy era!!

However I did get *one* idea...

Hehheh. Heheheheh....

H


Alden Bates

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Oct 16, 2002, 7:33:55 AM10/16/02
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bradk...@aol.com (BKWillis) wrote:

>What if Nyssa had stayed behind with Tegan at the end of 'Time-Flight'?
>What if the Fourth Doctor hadn't had to regenerate in 'Logopolis'?
>What if the Doctor, Adric, Nyssa, and Tegan were castaways on a desert island?
>What if the Doctor and Romana were 1930s archaeologists instead of Time Lords?

What if it was actually Spring instead of Fall/Winter.

Whups :)

Alden
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David S. Rubin

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Oct 16, 2002, 12:35:50 PM10/16/02
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On 16 Oct 2002, BKWillis wrote:
>
> My apologies, I phrased this badly and should've been more explicit in the
> point I was making. Alternate realities, be they a very small deviation from
> the 'norm' or a total reworking, are the point of this Challenge. What I meant
> by the above guideline was that stories should be set Inside a continuity (of
> whatever sort) and should not use a setting that's already been done. Beyond
> that, 'do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law' regarding alternate
> realities.

For our next question, we turn to Mrs. Imat Urnip, of Souix City Iowa.
Mrs. Urnip?

"Um, is this on. Thank you. Mr. BKWillis, how does this restriction
apply to crossovers? I also want to say that I'm a big fan of your
work."

And your response, Mr. Willis?

PAUL GADZIKOWSKI

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Oct 17, 2002, 7:06:52 AM10/17/02
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Alden Bates <aba...@whoever.com> wrote:

: bradk...@aol.com (BKWillis) wrote:
:>What if Nyssa had stayed behind with Tegan at the end of 'Time-Flight'?
:>What if the Fourth Doctor hadn't had to regenerate in 'Logopolis'?
:>What if the Doctor, Adric, Nyssa, and Tegan were castaways on a desert island?
:>What if the Doctor and Romana were 1930s archaeologists instead of Time Lords?
:
: What if it was actually Spring instead of Fall/Winter.
:
: Whups :)

Leave it to Alden to turn the world upside-down.

BKWillis

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Oct 18, 2002, 9:45:41 PM10/18/02
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<David S. Rubin wrote:>

>"Um, is this on. Thank you. Mr. BKWillis, how does this restriction
>apply to crossovers? I also want to say that I'm a big fan of your
>work."
>
>And your response, Mr. Willis?
>

Thank you, Mrs. Urnip. And tell your lovely daughter Yourat that I appreciate
the mittens. With regard to crossovers, there's nothing in the guidelines that
says you can't, providing it fits the limitations, so I'd say go ahead, if
that's what suits you.

Again, the guidelines say what they say. Interpret them as literally or as
creatively (or as deviously) as you like. Y'all know _I_ would.

BKWillis

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"Wow! There's nothing like a highly detailed technical explanation from a lady
in a swimsuit!"
--Mr. Uribatake in 'Martian Successor Nadesico'

Mags L Halliday

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Oct 18, 2002, 10:27:39 PM10/18/02
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"BKWillis" <bradk...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Again, the guidelines say what they say. Interpret them as literally or
as
> creatively (or as deviously) as you like. Y'all know _I_ would.

Yeah, you're a right sneaky bugger. ;-)

Mags
--
"All I learnt at school
was how to bend not break the rules"
Madness, Baggy Trousers


Paul Andinach

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Oct 20, 2002, 8:59:28 AM10/20/02
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On 15 Oct 2002, bradk...@aol.com (BKWillis) wrote in
news:20021014225302...@mb-me.aol.com:

> Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is as follows:
>
> Write a story using characters from Seasons 18-21 ('Leisure
> Hive' through 'Twin Dilemma') in which some aspect of the
> 'canonical' timeline is altered. The change can be as small or
> as major as you like. The only restrictions regarding
> alterations are:
>
> Either the characters' personalities or the setting may be
> _totally_ reinvented, but not both. That is to say, either the
> 'Doctor Who' setting or the 'Doctor Who' characters must remain
> recognizable.
>
> Stories cannot be set Outside Continuity or in any existing
> alternate-reality setting. Meaning, no TTR, 'Badlands', 'Dragon
> Lines/Space Vixens!', 'King Arthur in Time and Space', etc.
>
> Stories can be any length, any style. The more ingenious your
> tangent, the better!

I believe I have the very thing.

It's going to need some research, though, so it won't be ready
immediately.

(Is 'Arc of Infinity' out on video yet?)


Paul
--
The Pink Pedanther

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