Crime Free Paris
JIGSAW1695
in Paris where a citizen can walk up to the mayor and stab in the gut.
By ANGELA DOLAND
Associated Press Writer
October 5, 2002, 10:56 PM EDT
PARIS -- An attacker stabbed Paris Mayor Bertrand Delanoe in the abdomen Sunday
at City Hall but his life was not in danger, city officials and firefighters
said.
Delanoe was rushed by ambulance to Pitie Salpetriere hospital in Paris, the
mayor's office said.
France Info radio reported that a 40-year-old man had been taken into custody
after allegedly stabbing the Socialist mayor at 2:30 a.m. local time. The
motive for the attack was not immediately known.
The mayor's office had organized a night of festivities in Paris, with museums
open late, monuments lit up and artists performing throughout the capital.
Paris City Hall opened its doors for a concert of lounge music.
Delanoe took office in spring 2001, promising to improve the quality of life,
reduce pollution and cut down on traffic.
A virtual unknown before the election, Delanoe has since organized popular
events in Paris, such as turning the banks of the Seine River into a beach for
picnics and street parties this summer.
Before his win, Paris City Hall had been controlled by President Jacques
Chirac's conservatives for a quarter-century.
A Planet Visitor
"JIGSAW1695" <jigsa...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20021006004051...@mb-ci.aol.com...
> The other day Dezi mentioned that Paris is the safest place to live.....
Dezi is well-known for 'spreading shit.'
John Rennie
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
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> "JIGSAW1695" <jigsa...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > The other day Dezi mentioned that Paris is the safest place to live.....
>
> Dezi is well-known for 'spreading shit.'
You never really had a light touch, PV, but the above is pathetic -
leave it alone.
Earl Evleth
jigsa...@aol.com a écrit le 6/10/02 6:40 :
> PARIS -- An attacker stabbed Paris Mayor Bertrand Delanoe in the abdomen
> Sunday
> at City Hall but his life was not in danger, city officials and firefighters
> said.
> Delanoe was rushed by ambulance to Pitie Salpetriere hospital in Paris, the
> mayor's office said.
>
> France Info radio reported that a 40-year-old man had been taken into custody
> after allegedly stabbing the Socialist mayor at 2:30 a.m. local time. The
> motive for the attack was not immediately known.
He is 39 and said he doesn`t like politicians. He has a record of arrests,
drugs etc.
At least he was not using a sniper's rifle.
Earl
Earl Evleth
evl...@wanadoo.fr a écrit le 6/10/02 16:13 :
Also he hates homosexuals
Earl
Incubus
"Earl Evleth" <evl...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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contrary to poular beleif, hating homosexuals is not illegal and hating
politicians is actively encouraged :-)
>
> Earl
>
JIGSAW1695
>From: Desmond Coughlan pasdespa...@zeouane.org
>Date: 10/6/2002 6:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <slrnaq03qa.454.p...@lievre.voute.net>
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>Le 06 Oct 2002 04:40:51 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
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>> The other day Dezi mentioned that Paris is the safest place to live.....
>
>the most crime-free places on the planet'. People in Paris don't go
>around with assault rifles, picking off innocent people as they mow lawns,
>or fill their cars with petrol.
>
>> except in Paris where a citizen can walk up to the mayor and stab in the
>> gut.
>
>not able to cope with the fact that Paris's mayor is gay.
>
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>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>desmond @ zeouane.org |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>http: // www . zeouane . org
===============================Hmmm...thats funny..... There is speculation
here that he was a Jealous French lover. Any why should an American homosexual
travel all the way to Paris to kill someone when there are enough at home. (Bet
I catch hell for this one. I will be called a homophobic for this one).
Jigsaw
JIGSAW1695
Date: 10/6/2002 1:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time
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LOL.. good one Earl!!!!
Earl Evleth
jigsa...@aol.com a écrit le 6/10/02 19:51 :
> contrary to poular beleif, hating homosexuals is not illegal and hating
> politicians is actively encouraged :-)
>>
>> Earl
> ===============================
>
> LOL.. good one Earl!!!!
I did not write that!
Misquoted again
Earl
Here is an explicative article
Une Nuit Blanche qui vire au noir pour Delanoë
Par Hélène Fontanaud
PARIS (Reuters) - Le maire socialiste de Paris, Bertrand Delanoë, blessé à
l'abdomen d'un coup de couteau dans la nuit de samedi à dimanche, a été
opéré dans la matinée et restera hospitalisé au moins une semaine.
L'agresseur, qui a été interpellé juste après avoir frappé le maire de la
capitale, est un musulman pratiquant de 39 ans. Il a expliqué aux enquêteurs
avoir agi sans préméditation mais par animosité envers "les hommes
politiques et les homosexuels".
"Il se trouvait par hasard à l'Hôtel de Ville et, voyant Delanoë passer, a
sorti un couteau de sa poche, il en a toujours un sur lui, et l'a frappé au
passage", a-t-on précisé de source proche du dossier.
Les enquêteurs considèrent d'ores et déjà avoir affaire à un "acte isolé" et
estiment que l'affaire ne sera donc pas transmise à la section
antiterroriste du parquet de Paris.
Le parquet devrait ouvrir une information judiciaire d'ici lundi.
Une hospitalisation en pyschiatrie du suspect, dont l'identité n'a pas été
révélée, n'est pas exclue car il aurait déjà présenté des troubles du
comportement dans le passé. Les enquêteurs sont à la recherche de son
dossier médical complet.
Son casier judiciaire comporterait aussi des condamnations mais aucune
précision n'a été donnée sur leur nature.
L'agression a eu lieu vers 02h30 (00h30 GMT) dans les salons bondés de
l'Hôtel de Ville, où Bertrand Delanoë était venu s'assurer du bon
déroulement de la Nuit Blanche, qui présentait des animations culturelles
dans les vingt arrondissements et a rassemblé entre 350 et 400.000
personnes.
Comme à son habitude, le maire n'était pas accompagné de gardes du corps.
"J'étais à ses côtés, on marchait gentiment dans les couloirs de l'Hôtel de
Ville (...) Tout à coup, j'ai vu le maire tomber, il m'a dit: 'j'ai mal,
j'ai reçu un coup de couteau'", a raconté sur France 2 la directrice de la
communication de la mairie, Anne-Sylvie Schneider.
Le Samu est arrivé rapidement sur place pour transporter en urgence le maire
à l'hôpital de la Pitié-Salpêtrière.
"Il est resté lucide jusqu'à ce qu'il rentre dans le bloc opératoire et il
avait une seule obsession, que la Nuit Blanche continue, surtout à l'Hôtel
de Ville", a précisé Anne-Sylvie Schneider.
Bertrand Delanoë est sorti du bloc opératoire à 06h50 (04h50 GMT). "Une
surveillance en unité de réanimation chirurgicale sera nécessaire pendant au
moins 48 heures et une hospitalisation prolongée d'au moins huit jours est à
prévoir", a indiqué l'hôpital de la Pitié-Salpêtrière dans un communiqué.
"Le réveil de l'anesthésie a été obtenu à 08h30. Son état clinique est
satisfaisant et les suites opératoires non compliquées", a précisé
l'hôpital.
GeneralZod
live.....except
> in Paris where a citizen can walk up to the mayor and stab in the gut.
There are two different responses to this:
1) ROTFLMAO! Only in a city that gives honorary citizenship to American
cop killers! Taste the irony!
2) Unfortunately, the mayor was not the intended victim. The perp was
the same guy who had attacked Desi before, and his failing eyesight
notwithstanding, was making another attempt.
Jürgen
Incubus schrieb in Nachricht ...
What is "poular beleif"?
Incubus
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> Le Sun, 6 Oct 2002 18:33:08 +0100, Incubus <inc...@river.styx> a écrit :
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> { snip }
>
> >> Also he hates homosexuals
>
> > contrary to poular beleif, hating homosexuals is not illegal and hating
> > politicians is actively encouraged :-)
>
> own homophobe here in the shape of LDB. Luckily for him, homophobia
> isn't illegal ...
'poular beleif' in simple terms means being a complete tosser when it comes
to handling a keyboard :-)
Incubus
"Jürgen" <K.J.H...@t-online.de> wrote in message
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guess. I am sure your brain can fill in the missiing peaces
>
>
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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Crime Free Paris
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 10:25:57 +0000
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>Le Sun, 6 Oct 2002 09:22:24 +0100, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
>écrit :
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>>> > The other day Dezi mentioned that Paris is the safest place to live.....
>
>>> Dezi is well-known for 'spreading shit.'
>
>> You never really had a light touch, PV, but the above is pathetic -
>> leave it alone.
>
>LOL ...
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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Crime Free Paris
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 21:39:41 +0000
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>Le Sun, 06 Oct 2002 18:51:47 +0200, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr> a écrit
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>{ snip }
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>> Also he hates homosexuals
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>OhmyGod, could it be ??!!
>
>He hates gays ??!!
>
>LDB ... where were you last night ??!!
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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
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>Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 16:59:07 +0000
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>Le Sun, 06 Oct 2002 18:51:47 +0200, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr> a écrit
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>> Also he hates homosexuals
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>Quick, billytwat !! Hide !!
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Crime Free Paris
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 18:31:09 +0000
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>Le 06 Oct 2002 17:51:26 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
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>> Subject: Re: Crime Free Paris
>> From: "Incubus" inc...@river.styx
>> Date: 10/6/2002 1:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>> Message-id: <Ct_n9.14242$h43.1...@newsfep3-gui.server.ntli.net>
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>>> Also he hates homosexuals
>
>> contrary to poular beleif, hating homosexuals is not illegal and hating
>> politicians is actively encouraged :-)
>
>> LOL.. good one Earl!!!!
>
>Which part of ...
>
>> From: "Incubus" inc...@river.styx
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>... didn't you understand, Jigsaw ?
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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Crime Free Paris
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 21:41:46 +0000
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>Le 06 Oct 2002 17:48:17 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
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>{ snip }
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>>>Word on the street is that it was an American. His sexual inadequacy was
>>>not able to cope with the fact that Paris's mayor is gay.
>
>> Hmmm...thats funny..... There is speculation here that he was a Jealous
>> French lover.
>
>'Here' ? Where is 'here', Jigsaw ? Since 'speculation' and 'jealous' both
>have more than one syllable, I suspect that 'here' is certainly not in
>Florida.
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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Crime Free Paris
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 17:39:33 +0000
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>Le Sun, 6 Oct 2002 18:33:08 +0100, Incubus <inc...@river.styx> a écrit :
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>{ snip }
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>>> Also he hates homosexuals
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>> contrary to poular beleif, hating homosexuals is not illegal and hating
>> politicians is actively encouraged :-)
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>Well whatever 'poular beleif' might be, it is true that we have our very
>own homophobe here in the shape of LDB. Luckily for him, homophobia
>isn't illegal ...
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Crime Free Paris
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 13:02:19 +0000
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>Le 06 Oct 2002 04:40:51 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
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>> The other day Dezi mentioned that Paris is the safest place to
>live.....except
>> in Paris where a citizen can walk up to the mayor and stab in the gut.
>
>Just reading the news reports concerning this attack, it becomes clear
>in fact that Jigsaw's troll is, in the best traditions of homoerotic
>deathyism, a monumental 'own goal'. In fact, this attack was possible
>precisely _because_ Paris is so crime-free. Monsieur Delanoë does not
>have a bodyguard. Paris is an oasis of safety, be you jigaboo (ho, ho,
>ho ...) or not.
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>url:http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=D551CDE1-5931-4F0E-AB109E
CA769F96A0
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>The 'cause' (sic) of deathyism is rapidly merging into one huge, smelly,
>putrefactive amalgam of sadism, paedophilia, fascism, disregard for
>justice, and obsessional stalking ... mixed in with the regular sound of
>bullets slamming into feet.
>
>Abolitionism truly does hold the moral high ground. The air is much
>fresher up here.
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>Subject: Re: Crime Free Paris
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Crime Free Paris
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 10:24:13 +0000
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>Le 06 Oct 2002 04:40:51 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
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>> The other day Dezi mentioned that Paris is the safest place to live.....
>
>Except I said no such thing, Jigsaw ... duh ! I stated, 'I live in one of
>the most crime-free places on the planet'. People in Paris don't go
>around with assault rifles, picking off innocent people as they mow lawns,
>or fill their cars with petrol.
>
>> except in Paris where a citizen can walk up to the mayor and stab in the
>> gut.
>
>Word on the street is that it was an American. His sexual inadequacy was
>not able to cope with the fact that Paris's mayor is gay.
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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>Subject: Re: Crime Free Paris
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A Planet Visitor
"John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:9pSn9.64$MH5.38175@newsfep2-gui...
loath to do so. For example, it has been clearly shown that
your argument stating that the U.K. has a lower household
firearm rate than France is totally disproved.
desi is still alive.
PV
A Planet Visitor
> Le Sun, 06 Oct 2002 18:51:47 +0200, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr> a écrit :
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> { snip }
>
> > Also he hates homosexuals
>
>
PV
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> Desmond Coughlan |THE BITCH DROPPED THE BIKE ON MY TOE
> |SO I DUMPED HER SORRY ASS
> |AND MY 5 KIDS AS WELL
A Planet Visitor
"Incubus" <inc...@river.styx> wrote in message news:Ct_n9.14242$h43.1...@newsfep3-gui.server.ntli.net...
hating homosexuals is bigoted. Every bit as much as hating
Blacks, or Jews.
PV
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> > Earl
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A Planet Visitor
> Le Sun, 6 Oct 2002 18:33:08 +0100, Incubus <inc...@river.styx> a écrit :
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> { snip }
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> > contrary to poular beleif, hating homosexuals is not illegal and hating
> > politicians is actively encouraged :-)
>
> own homophobe here in the shape of LDB. Luckily for him, homophobia
> isn't illegal ...
>
YOU are the homophobic. It seems you see 'them' everywhere.
A rather disgusting display actually.
A Planet Visitor
> Le Sun, 06 Oct 2002 18:51:47 +0200, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr> a écrit :
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> { snip }
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> > Also he hates homosexuals
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>
> He hates gays ??!!
>
> LDB ... where were you last night ??!!
>
respect for gays. I even once expressed that I would gladly accept
being gay, if it meant having some of the special qualities I have seen
many gays endowed with. In a moment - I would trade places with
the talent of Elton John, for example. Clearly, I find nothing of that
sort from you. Prejudice against gays is one of the last barriers to
a civilized society. I believe we will solve the prejudice against
Blacks and Jews more easily than we will against gays. Because
hating gays is a SICKNESS. A sickness of the soul, in respect
to another human. And you are one sick fuck in your present post.
Presuming that it is an insult to call another a gay. And have no
doubt.. you meant it as an insult to GAYS, rather than to me. This
is not the first time you have made such an idiotic statement to
me. Before you accused me of calling those who disagree with me
'closet gays.' But that was ALSO a lie. And by you offering such an
implication... there is clear evidence that YOU are a TRUE homophobic.
Earl Evleth
Visitor à abc...@zbqytr.ykq a écrit le 7/10/02 6:01 :
> hating homosexuals is bigoted. Every bit as much as hating
> Blacks, or Jews.
The "accused" assailant is a ethnic Algerian, born in France,
with a long record of petty thefts and selling drugs. There
are a lot of small timers like him around from the Parisian and
other large city suburbs. The press stated he is a "practicing"
Moslem but his characteristics don't fit that description. He
sold hashish and used it. The main departure from his
"standard" profile is that he learned enough about computers
in prison to try and start a small company on coming out the
last time and this failed. At 39, unemployed, with a criminal
record he had a loser profile and not prospects for the future.
Even less so now.
As for hating homosexuals, I suspect one could add Jews to his
list. We heard about this attack a few hours after it happened
while visiting Barry at the Clairvaux prison. Barry had heard it
on the Sunday morning news. Barry has a lot of the same types
around him in prison, a discouraging group to be near. Barry is
currently frustrated as this moment because a new director took
over the shoe factory who happens to be quite good. He spends
time with the prisoners showing better ways of getting the shoes
made. Barry is a hard worker and had been promoted to making
women`s shoes, which is harder to do. The new boss also has
a potential contract for making 8000 pairs of golf shoes if he can get a
team together which can do it. Barry would be part of the team.
Extra bonuses would be paid for this work. Currently he gets
about $1.50 and hour for what he does but they are on short
hours and only work 4 hours a day. The work day would go up
and this alone means more pay. But the prisoners generally
feel there time is measured in years and not hours. Working
harder does not a universal appeal in that optic.
Barry is enthusiastic about the new project but it is hard bring others
along. Finally, the new boss has an handicap, he is Jewish and
anti-semitism rears its ugly head. Barry is not anti-semitic and although
Moslem fights against it with respect to the other prisoners who like to
blame the Jews for this or than. Barry is also pragmatic, he likes the
money and has never been enthusiastic about taking what he needed from us
when we saw his need and offered it. A new shoe contract would
fit into Barry`s plans nicely.
Earl
John Rennie
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
Huh!! Where and when, PV?
JIGSAW1695
Date: 10/7/2002 6:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time
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So is Elvis!!
Incubus
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
and you are telling me this because you thought i didn't know?????
Bigotry is not illegal regardless of how unpleasent it it. If it was illegal
then most people would be criminals.
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> PV
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> > > Earl
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John Rennie
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
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> >
> I never really claimed to 'have a light touch.' I would in fact, be
> loath to do so. For example, it has been clearly shown that
> your argument stating that the U.K. has a lower household
> firearm rate than France is totally disproved.
What is the connection between the two above sentences?
What are you on about?
Earl Evleth
Rennie à j.re...@ntlworld.com a écrit le 7/10/02 17:25 :
> For example, it has been clearly shown that
>> your argument stating that the U.K. has a lower household
>> firearm rate than France is totally disproved.
>
> What is the connection between the two above sentences?
> What are you on about?
Indeed, what argument? The facts are that firearm ownership
in England-Wales is much lower than the French ownership rate.
I know of know proof otherwise. Did PV slip a gear when
he wrote that, as you indicate John??
He stays up too late and toward 3AM he really get muddled.
Earl
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Crime Free Paris
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 17:21:37 +0000
>
>Le Mon, 07 Oct 2002 04:32:33 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
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>{ snip }
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>>> LDB ... where were you last night ??!!
>
>> Never.. never.. in any post here, have I espressed anything but
>> respect for gays. I even once expressed that I would gladly accept
>> being gay, if it meant having some of the special qualities I have seen
>> many gays endowed with.
>
>What a moron. No, I take that back. What an _illiterate_ moron. You
>probably don't even realise the latent homophobia in what you have
>just written.
>
>You would 'accept' being gay, if it meant having a 'positive' talent. In
>other words, to 'offset' the negative aspect of being gay, you'd be
>willing to endure the 'negative' aspect of being gay. In other words,
>being gay would only be 'bearable', if there were compensations. And
>let's not even _mention_ your equating homosexuality with paedophilia
>(and thanks to dirt for pointing that out) ...
>
>Ho, ho, ho ... I knew you were a racist moron, but now we can add
>homophobe to the list. What next ? 'I don't wanna be a nigga, but I
>"wood" [sic] accept it if it meant a bigger dick' ?
>
>{ remainder of racist, homophobic transference }
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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>Subject: Re: Crime Free Paris
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A Planet Visitor
"John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:3odo9.657$5t4....@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net...
How else could desi still be alive, if France had a higher access to
household firearms? It's elementary, Dr. Watson.
PV
A Planet Visitor
> Le Mon, 07 Oct 2002 04:32:33 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
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> { snip }
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> > Never.. never.. in any post here, have I espressed anything but
> > respect for gays. I even once expressed that I would gladly accept
> > being gay, if it meant having some of the special qualities I have seen
> > many gays endowed with.
>
> probably don't even realise the latent homophobia in what you have
> just written.
>
You moron.
> You would 'accept' being gay, if it meant having a 'positive' talent. In
> other words, to 'offset' the negative aspect of being gay, you'd be
> willing to endure the 'negative' aspect of being gay. In other words,
> being gay would only be 'bearable', if there were compensations. And
> let's not even _mention_ your equating homosexuality with paedophilia
> (and thanks to dirt for pointing that out) ...
>
The 'negative' aspects of being gay, are exactly contained in your
original CALLING ME A HOMOSEXUAL. It is that I would 'endure'
the PREJUDICE that you demonstrate, and others demonstrate
toward those who are 'different.' I thank God that I was NOT given
the burden to bear such raging prejudice in my life. You, and your
kind, place such a burden on others. You, and your kind, ARE
THAT 'NEGATIVE' aspect to being gay. The gay is not 'negative.'
Those who would believe it insults to CALL another gay, are
the negative. And that is what you implied in your insult to me.
The 'negative' that would need to be carried is personified in YOU,
not the fact of BEING gay. The gay must carry the burden of YOU,
and those who think as YOU. YOU are the 'curse,' not them.
Those who believe they can INSULT (as you attempted to do),
by calling another a gay, are truly emotionally disturbed.
Why would I not wish to be a Black in Georgia, a Palestinian in
Israel, a Jew in Iran, or a homosexual in Paris? Because of those
who exhibit the same character as you. Because of the raging
prejudice I would be forced to endure from those such as YOU.
Who feel that calling someone a gay, is an insult. And clearly,
your insults to me before were in respect to homosexuality AND
pedophilia. There was no mention of a FEMALE. It was homosexuality
AND pedophile behavior you were accusing me of in your sickening
comments (and of course, simply typical of much of your comments
here -- such as using 'retard' with such ease). Had you simply called
me homosexual before, rather than connecting it ALSO with
pedophilia, I would have remarked just as now. It demonstrates
that you are homophobic.
o, ho, ho ... I knew you were a racist moron, but now we can add
> homophobe to the list. What next ? 'I don't wanna be a nigga, but I
> "wood" [sic] accept it if it meant a bigger dick' ?
>
> { remainder of racist, homophobic transference }
>
Try some role-reversal here. Change the perception to me trying
to insult you, by calling YOU a gay. Telling you that YOU should
watch out for a homophobe attacker. Who would that be shown as
bigoted? If you can do that... then switch roles back and see who
is ACTUALLY bigoted. Once again... we can clearly see who is the
demented bigot. More and more... every day... we can see how
truly emotionally disturbed you are.
Incubus
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
you really really really really need that holiday :-)
Rev. Don Kool
A Planet Visitor wrote:
> "JIGSAW1695" <jigsa...@aol.com> wrote...
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>>The other day Dezi mentioned that Paris is the safest place to live.....
>
>
> Dezi is well-known for 'spreading shit.'
Given that paris is the dog shit capital of the world, the boy lives in
the right place. LOL!!
Yours in Christ,
Don
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