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incubus

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Jul 19, 2002, 7:26:56 PM7/19/02
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Hello. I have often wondered how a person gets the job of an executioner.
What skills/qualifications do they need? where do they see the vacancy? what
sort of person would apply for the job. It's not the sort of post you would
see in the local job.


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Mrs Emma Peel

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"incubus" <inc...@hellfire.com> wrote in message news:<Ud1_8.2921$UG3.1...@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net>...

For some individuals, however, executions seem to appeal to strange,
aberrant impulses and provide an outlet for sadistic urges. Warden
Lewis Lawes of Sing Sing Prison in New York wrote of the many requests
he received to watch electrocutions, and told that when the job of
executioner became vacant. "I received more than seven hundred
applications for the position, many of them offering cut-rate prices.

Emma

Donna Evleth

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Dans l'article <10b91a3a.02071...@posting.google.com>,
emma...@elvis.com (Mrs Emma Peel) a écrit :

At San Quentin in California, in the early part of the 20th century when the
method of execution was still hanging, the executioner was, amazingly, just
one of the prison guards. Between executions he did the same guard work as
everybody else. He got $25 for operating the gallows.

Donna Evleth

John Rennie

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"Donna Evleth" <dev...@noos.fr> wrote in message news:3d391aaa$0$27527


snip

>
> At San Quentin in California, in the early part of the 20th century when
the
> method of execution was still hanging, the executioner was, amazingly,
just
> one of the prison guards. Between executions he did the same guard work
as
> everybody else. He got $25 for operating the gallows.
>
> Donna Evleth

Which reminds me, Donna. My copy of '88 Men and 2 Women' resurrected
itself recently. When you move, you can lose items but if you're lucky,
others can be found. I bought it 40 years ago when it was first published.
Duffy made a statement there which may well (don't know) be true today.
He wrote that the only rich person that was executed on his watch at San
Quentin wanted to die. The other 89 were not well off.

"It's the rich wot gets the pleasure,
it's the poor wot gets the blame,
it's the same the whole world over,
isn't it a bloody shame?"


incubus

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Jul 20, 2002, 7:29:28 AM7/20/02
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"Rush Wickes" <ru...@rush-w.com> wrote in message
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>
> "incubus" <inc...@hellfire.com> wrote in message
> news:Ud1_8.2921$UG3.1...@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net...
> It varies by jurisdiction.
>
> In the 19th century United States, the duty of hangman was often left up
to
> the sheriff of the county where the crime occurred. Later, as the
electric
> chair came into use -- it was common to have a single individual be the
> contracted executioner for all executions over a number of states. More
> often than not, they were licensed electricians. Some states, such as
> Louisiana, Mississippi and New York went so far as to designate the
> individual as the 'state electrician'.
>
> Edwin Davis, who conducted the first electrocution in 1890 in New York and
> proceeded to introduce and install the technology to other states, was a
> recluse who refused to have his photograph taken nor his name spoken in
> public by people in his company. One of his successors ended up becoming
> so depressed from the job that he had a gradual severe nervous breakdown
and
> committed suicide in his basement. Yet another, Robert Elliott, had
his
> home fire bombed by sympathizers to Sacco and Vanzetti, whom he had pulled
> the switch on in 1927.
>
> Louisiana's executioner in the 1980's (a Baton Rouge electrician who
> operated under the state assigned alias of 'Sam Jones') gradually became
> erratic as well. He began to openly discuss his late night dealings at
> Angola in an effort to drum up customers for his day business.
> Additionally, he was known to dip his right hand in beer keg ice shortly
> before being introduced to others, so as to give them a 'chilling'
> sensation. Around 1987 he volunteered for an interview with the new
Fox
> network program 'The Reporters', where he displayed the series of rather
> macabre paintings that he had created upon returning from an execution.
> Apparently, according to well-informed sources, he started drinking
heavily
> just before showing up for the job at Angola. At the last electrocution
in
> the state, he was too drunk to throw the lever on his own and needed
> assistance.
>
> Florida's executioner has been a private citizen since 1978, recruited by
a
> help-wanted advertisement in a newspaper. (This was the case when all
> executions were carried out via electric chair, I'm not sure whether the
> ritual described hereafter changed with lethal injection). The hooded
> executioner would be picked up along a back road and driven in a
circuitous
> route that ends up at the Florida State Prison near Starke. At this
point,
> they'd come in, do the job -- which consisted of nothing more than
throwing
> the final breaker switch, (a staff electrician would visibly check the
> equipment and engage it beforehand) get paid $150 in cash then driven back
> to the pickup point -- still hooded.
>
> In Alabama, the warden of Holman prison was required to throw the switch.
> Indiana had a similar rule as well, again it may have changed with the
move
> to injection.
>
> Virginia uses a team which consists entirely of corrections officers.
They
> are sufficiently trained to set i.v. lines and administer drugs in the
> correct dosages/sequence and drill monthly at it.
>
> From what I have observed first hand, none of the corrections staff could
be
> described as 'rabid deathies'. They take on the job because it was
asked
> of them by superiors and they volunteered, feeling that they could conduct
> the process in a dignified manner. In some instances, some have gone so
> far as to participate in a baptismal/communion service at the condemned
> inmate's request.
>
>
> I hope this answers your question sufficiently,

It does. More than adequately. Thank you
>
> --
> Rush Wickes -- remove the '-' to reply via e-mail
> Blacksburg, VA
>
>
>
>


incubus

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"Mrs Emma Peel" <emma...@elvis.com> wrote in message
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Everything seems to have a crank factor attached to it

>
> Emma


incubus

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:31:33 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }

>
> >> aberrant impulses and provide an outlet for sadistic urges. Warden
> >> Lewis Lawes of Sing Sing Prison in New York wrote of the many requests
> >> he received to watch electrocutions, and told that when the job of
> >> executioner became vacant. "I received more than seven hundred
> >> applications for the position, many of them offering cut-rate prices.
>
> > Everything seems to have a crank factor attached to it
>
> Like he said, incubus ... deathie ... aberrant ...

Wow. These posts seem to have more flow since i removed you from my
killfile. I guess you have a lot to say Desi ;-)

>
> --
> Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
> Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
> desmond @ zeouane.org
> http: // www . zeouane . org


incubus

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:11:31 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }
>

> >> > Everything seems to have a crank factor attached to it
>
> >> Like he said, incubus ... deathie ... aberrant ...
>
> > Wow. These posts seem to have more flow since i removed you from my
> > killfile. I guess you have a lot to say Desi ;-)
>
> I knew that you wouldn't keep me in the killfile, incubus. Besides,
> anyone coming onto my newsgroup and killfiling me, would have been
> expelled after 30 days.

LOL. Admit it. You didn't even know I killfiled you. Bear in mind Desi that
you are the first person I ever killfiled an the first person I ever removed
from my killfile list :-)

incubus

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:04:31 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }
>

> >> I knew that you wouldn't keep me in the killfile, incubus. Besides,
> >> anyone coming onto my newsgroup and killfiling me, would have been
> >> expelled after 30 days.
>
> > LOL. Admit it. You didn't even know I killfiled you. Bear in mind Desi
that
> > you are the first person I ever killfiled an the first person I ever
removed
> > from my killfile list :-)
>
> My secretary, Mr Jig Saw, advised me, through a communiqué from the
> Permanent Secretary to the AADP Commission, that a new arrival had
> done something of the sort.
>
> I decided not to expel you from my newsgroup, as I believed you showed
> promise. The other members of the Board were, I have to say, not in
> agreement with my decision. However, as I control 51% of the shares
> in this newsgroup, I told them to fuck off and shag a certain aged
> Floridian's wife, if they weren't happy.
>
> Curiously, they all supported me after that one ...
>
now come on Desi dude. You know as well as I do that it is impossible to ban
somebody from a newsgroup or even a news server. As for any bigoted retards
who think I need to prove myself to them, let them eat cake and follow it
with a portion of my warty bare arse. As for you, I have to admit, I have
missed your tales :-)


A Planet Visitor

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Jul 20, 2002, 2:02:55 PM7/20/02
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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:11:31 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> >> > Everything seems to have a crank factor attached to it
>
> >> Like he said, incubus ... deathie ... aberrant ...
>
> > Wow. These posts seem to have more flow since i removed you from my
> > killfile. I guess you have a lot to say Desi ;-)
>
> I knew that you wouldn't keep me in the killfile, incubus. Besides,
> anyone coming onto my newsgroup and killfiling me, would have been
> expelled after 30 days.
>
Umm... desi... that was in the newsgroup you created with the
belief that you could do so. Reality check -- IT'S NOW DEFUNCT.
I believe it consisted of 13 messages, with 7 of them coming from
you. It imploded because no one gave a shit to contribute to a group
that YOU moderated. Wake up and smell the coffee. AFTER
that implosion, like the perverbial (sic) 'bad penny' -- you decided to
come back here and continue to make a petty nuisance of yourself
again.

PV

> --
> Desmond Coughlan |PV'S OUT OF HIS KILL FILE
|PV'S OUT OF HIS KILL FILE
|GOD'S SHAKING HIS HEAD
|THE WORLD SUCKS


A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> > It varies by jurisdiction.
>
> { snip }
>
> Thank you for that information, Rush. One thing that strikes me is that
> very often, those whose job involves taking money to kill defenceless
> human beings, very often end up hitting the bottle, or becoming staunchly
> 'anti' death penalty.

Can we then presume that your previous job involved 'taking money to kill
defenseless human being'??? It seems your present condition would
substantiate this. Or were you just 'trolling' (Sic)????


PV


> Des On The Road |PV'S OUT OF HIS KILL FILE

incubus

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:29:02 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a
écrit :
>

> >> >> I knew that you wouldn't keep me in the killfile, incubus. Besides,
> >> >> anyone coming onto my newsgroup and killfiling me, would have been
> >> >> expelled after 30 days.
>
> >> > LOL. Admit it. You didn't even know I killfiled you. Bear in mind
Desi
> > that
> >> > you are the first person I ever killfiled an the first person I ever
> > removed
> >> > from my killfile list :-)
>
> >> My secretary, Mr Jig Saw, advised me, through a communiqué from the
> >> Permanent Secretary to the AADP Commission, that a new arrival had
> >> done something of the sort.
> >>
> >> I decided not to expel you from my newsgroup, as I believed you showed
> >> promise. The other members of the Board were, I have to say, not in
> >> agreement with my decision. However, as I control 51% of the shares
> >> in this newsgroup, I told them to fuck off and shag a certain aged
> >> Floridian's wife, if they weren't happy.
> >>
> >> Curiously, they all supported me after that one ...
>
> > now come on Desi dude. You know as well as I do that it is impossible to
ban
> > somebody from a newsgroup or even a news server.
>
> Heh ... gotcha. ;-)

Gotcha's only work if you succeed in fooling somebody. Ask Noel Edmunds. He
was the pionner of two such jokes, the first being the gotcha, the second
being his jumpers. How did he get away with them?

> > As for any bigoted retards
> > who think I need to prove myself to them, let them eat cake and follow
it
> > with a portion of my warty bare arse. As for you, I have to admit, I
have
> > missed your tales :-)
>

> Get off my leg, homeboy ...

careful i may bite playfully on your knee :-)

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Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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In article <slrnajinfp.1ve.p...@lievre.voute.net>, Desmond
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: executioners job
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:56:25 +0000


>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:11:31 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a écrit :
>
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> > Everything seems to have a crank factor attached to it
>
>>> Like he said, incubus ... deathie ... aberrant ...
>
>> Wow. These posts seem to have more flow since i removed you from my
>> killfile. I guess you have a lot to say Desi ;-)
>

>I knew that you wouldn't keep me in the killfile, incubus. Besides,
>anyone coming onto my newsgroup and killfiling me, would have been
>expelled after 30 days.
>

>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>desmond @ zeouane.org
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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Desi is afraid of his own words! He can be reached at des...@noos.fr or
des...@zeouane.org.

As everyone knows, only COWARDS forge posts yet don't allow their own to be
archived!

Now Desi, Tell us about the Baltimore County police.


Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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In article <slrnajjahq.1ggi....@lievre.voute.net>, Desmond
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: executioners job
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:21:46 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:02:55 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :

>
>>> >> > Everything seems to have a crank factor attached to it
>
>>> >> Like he said, incubus ... deathie ... aberrant ...
>
>>> > Wow. These posts seem to have more flow since i removed you from my
>>> > killfile. I guess you have a lot to say Desi ;-)
>
>>> I knew that you wouldn't keep me in the killfile, incubus. Besides,
>>> anyone coming onto my newsgroup and killfiling me, would have been
>>> expelled after 30 days.
>

>> Umm... desi...
>
>Here we go, another bite .......


>
>> that was in the newsgroup you created with the
>> belief that you could do so. Reality check -- IT'S NOW DEFUNCT.
>> I believe it consisted of 13 messages, with 7 of them coming from
>> you. It imploded because no one gave a shit to contribute to a group
>> that YOU moderated. Wake up and smell the coffee. AFTER
>> that implosion, like the perverbial (sic) 'bad penny' -- you decided to
>> come back here and continue to make a petty nuisance of yourself
>> again.
>

>Yes, yes, yes, PV, but ......... did one 'send' articles to that group,
>or did one 'post' them ..? Enquiring minds wish to know ..........


>
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>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: executioners job
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:58:16 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:39:06 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>


>{ snip }
>
>>> Thank you for that information, Rush. One thing that strikes me is that
>>> very often, those whose job involves taking money to kill defenceless
>>> human beings, very often end up hitting the bottle, or becoming staunchly
>>> 'anti' death penalty.
>
>> Can we then presume that your previous job involved 'taking money to kill
>> defenseless human being'???
>

>No, but my present job involves taking angry and bitter, semi-literate
>Floridians, and feeding them into into the 'Gotcha!' machine.
>
>Gerrinthere, boy !! Gnash!! Gnash !!
>
>{ snip }


>
>>> Des On The Road |PV'S OUT OF HIS KILL FILE
>

>Fix the fucking signature, you retard, I've been home since a little after
>midday today ...

>
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>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>Subject: Re: executioners job

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>Subject: Re: executioners job
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:33:04 +0000


>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:04:31 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a écrit :
>
>
>{ snip }
>

>>> I knew that you wouldn't keep me in the killfile, incubus. Besides,
>>> anyone coming onto my newsgroup and killfiling me, would have been
>>> expelled after 30 days.
>

>> LOL. Admit it. You didn't even know I killfiled you. Bear in mind Desi
>that
>> you are the first person I ever killfiled an the first person I ever
>removed
>> from my killfile list :-)
>
>My secretary, Mr Jig Saw, advised me, through a communiqué from the
>Permanent Secretary to the AADP Commission, that a new arrival had
>done something of the sort.
>
>I decided not to expel you from my newsgroup, as I believed you showed
>promise. The other members of the Board were, I have to say, not in
>agreement with my decision. However, as I control 51% of the shares
>in this newsgroup, I told them to fuck off and shag a certain aged
>Floridian's wife, if they weren't happy.
>

>Curiously, they all supported me after that one ...

>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>desmond @ zeouane.org
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: executioners job
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:04:56 +0000


>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:52:36 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a écrit :
>
>
>{ snip }
>

>>> >> I decided not to expel you from my newsgroup, as I believed you showed
>>> >> promise. The other members of the Board were, I have to say, not in
>>> >> agreement with my decision. However, as I control 51% of the shares
>>> >> in this newsgroup, I told them to fuck off and shag a certain aged
>>> >> Floridian's wife, if they weren't happy.
>>> >>
>>> >> Curiously, they all supported me after that one ...
>

>>> > now come on Desi dude. You know as well as I do that it is impossible to
>> ban
>>> > somebody from a newsgroup or even a news server.
>
>>> Heh ... gotcha. ;-)
>
>> Gotcha's only work if you succeed in fooling somebody. Ask Noel Edmunds. He
>> was the pionner of two such jokes, the first being the gotcha, the second
>> being his jumpers. How did he get away with them?
>

>Cos he had a hideous beard, too ?


>
>>> > As for any bigoted retards
>>> > who think I need to prove myself to them, let them eat cake and follow
>> it
>>> > with a portion of my warty bare arse. As for you, I have to admit, I
>> have
>>> > missed your tales :-)
>
>>> Get off my leg, homeboy ...
>
>> careful i may bite playfully on your knee :-)
>

>' '


>
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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: executioners job
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:29:53 +0000


>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:29:02 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a écrit :
>
>
>>> >> I knew that you wouldn't keep me in the killfile, incubus. Besides,
>>> >> anyone coming onto my newsgroup and killfiling me, would have been
>>> >> expelled after 30 days.
>
>>> > LOL. Admit it. You didn't even know I killfiled you. Bear in mind Desi
>> that
>>> > you are the first person I ever killfiled an the first person I ever
>> removed
>>> > from my killfile list :-)
>
>>> My secretary, Mr Jig Saw, advised me, through a communiqué from the
>>> Permanent Secretary to the AADP Commission, that a new arrival had
>>> done something of the sort.
>>>

>>> I decided not to expel you from my newsgroup, as I believed you showed
>>> promise. The other members of the Board were, I have to say, not in
>>> agreement with my decision. However, as I control 51% of the shares
>>> in this newsgroup, I told them to fuck off and shag a certain aged
>>> Floridian's wife, if they weren't happy.
>>>
>>> Curiously, they all supported me after that one ...
>
>> now come on Desi dude. You know as well as I do that it is impossible to
>ban
>> somebody from a newsgroup or even a news server.
>
>Heh ... gotcha. ;-)
>

>> As for any bigoted retards
>> who think I need to prove myself to them, let them eat cake and follow it
>> with a portion of my warty bare arse. As for you, I have to admit, I have
>> missed your tales :-)
>
>Get off my leg, homeboy ...
>

>--
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>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>Subject: Re: executioners job

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<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: executioners job
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:48:28 +0000


>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:31:33 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a écrit :
>
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> aberrant impulses and provide an outlet for sadistic urges. Warden
>>> Lewis Lawes of Sing Sing Prison in New York wrote of the many requests
>>> he received to watch electrocutions, and told that when the job of
>>> executioner became vacant. "I received more than seven hundred
>>> applications for the position, many of them offering cut-rate prices.
>

>> Everything seems to have a crank factor attached to it
>

>Like he said, incubus ... deathie ... aberrant ...

>
>--
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>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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>Subject: Re: executioners job

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Desmond Coughlan <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: executioners job
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:53:37 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:22:45 +0100, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
>écrit :

>Or to quote John Spenkelink, just before his execution in Florida marked
>the return of the death penalty to the United States ...
>
> 'Capital punishment. Them [sic] without the capital, get
> the punishment.'
>
>--
>Des On The Road |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38


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Coughlan <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: executioners job
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 10:07:09 +0000


>
>Le Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:33:08 -0700, Rush Wickes <ru...@rush-w.com> a écrit :
>
>>> Hello. I have often wondered how a person gets the job of an executioner.
>>> What skills/qualifications do they need? where do they see the vacancy?
>> what
>>> sort of person would apply for the job. It's not the sort of post you
>> would
>>> see in the local job.
>
>> It varies by jurisdiction.
>

>{ snip }
>
>Thank you for that information, Rush. One thing that strikes me is that
>very often, those whose job involves taking money to kill defenceless
>human beings, very often end up hitting the bottle, or becoming staunchly

>'anti' death penalty. It is a sobering thought (or would be, if more than
>one deathie in a hundred could think) for those who 'strut their stuff', in
>claiming that they would be willing to 'pull the switch'.
>
>{ snip }


>
>> From what I have observed first hand, none of the corrections staff could
>be
>> described as 'rabid deathies'. They take on the job because it was asked
>> of them by superiors and they volunteered, feeling that they could conduct
>> the process in a dignified manner. In some instances, some have gone so
>> far as to participate in a baptismal/communion service at the condemned
>> inmate's request.
>

>Yet they still require their sins to be 'absolved' by not knowing who
>pulled the switch ? It appears that they know how wrong, what they are
>doing, really is.

>
>> I hope this answers your question sufficiently,
>

>Ever thought of getting a 'hobby' that involves life, rather than death,
>Rush ?
>
>Just a thought.


>
>--
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>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:39:06 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> >> Thank you for that information, Rush. One thing that strikes me is that
> >> very often, those whose job involves taking money to kill defenceless
> >> human beings, very often end up hitting the bottle, or becoming staunchly
> >> 'anti' death penalty.
>
> > Can we then presume that your previous job involved 'taking money to kill
> > defenseless human being'???
>
> No, but my present job involves taking angry and bitter, semi-literate
> Floridians, and feeding them into into the 'Gotcha!' machine.
>
> Gerrinthere, boy !! Gnash!! Gnash !!
>

Has anyone other than me recognized that the more pretentious
desi becomes in his posts, the smaller his argument becomes?
Just wondering if anyone else noticed.

into that 'mindless drivel' bin #2 <plink>

PV

> { snip }


>
> >> Des On The Road |PV'S OUT OF HIS KILL FILE
|PV'S OUT OF HIS KILL FILE
|GOD'S SHAKING HIS HEAD
|THE WORLD SUCKS


> Fix the ****ing signature, you retard, I've been home since a little after
> midday today ...
>
potty mouth desi does an intense self-examination. Determines he'
his own worst enemy.


> --
> Desmond Coughlan

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:02:55 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> >> >> > Everything seems to have a crank factor attached to it
>
> >> >> Like he said, incubus ... deathie ... aberrant ...
>
> >> > Wow. These posts seem to have more flow since i removed you from my
> >> > killfile. I guess you have a lot to say Desi ;-)
>
> >> I knew that you wouldn't keep me in the killfile, incubus. Besides,
> >> anyone coming onto my newsgroup and killfiling me, would have been
> >> expelled after 30 days.
>
> > Umm... desi...
>
> Here we go, another bite .......
>
> > that was in the newsgroup you created with the
> > belief that you could do so. Reality check -- IT'S NOW DEFUNCT.
> > I believe it consisted of 13 messages, with 7 of them coming from
> > you. It imploded because no one gave a shit to contribute to a group
> > that YOU moderated. Wake up and smell the coffee. AFTER
> > that implosion, like the perverbial (sic) 'bad penny' -- you decided to
> > come back here and continue to make a petty nuisance of yourself
> > again.
>
> Yes, yes, yes, PV, but ......... did one 'send' articles to that group,
> or did one 'post' them ..? Enquiring minds wish to know ..........

I think enquiring minds already have determined that you newsgroup
sucked sufficient to not waste their time.

desi's 'mindless drivel' bin #2 --> <plink>

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:52:36 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }

>
> >> >> I decided not to expel you from my newsgroup, as I believed you
showed
> >> >> promise. The other members of the Board were, I have to say, not in
> >> >> agreement with my decision. However, as I control 51% of the shares
> >> >> in this newsgroup, I told them to fuck off and shag a certain aged
> >> >> Floridian's wife, if they weren't happy.
> >> >>
> >> >> Curiously, they all supported me after that one ...
>
> >> > now come on Desi dude. You know as well as I do that it is impossible
to
> > ban
> >> > somebody from a newsgroup or even a news server.
>
> >> Heh ... gotcha. ;-)
>
> > Gotcha's only work if you succeed in fooling somebody. Ask Noel Edmunds.
He
> > was the pionner of two such jokes, the first being the gotcha, the
second
> > being his jumpers. How did he get away with them?
>
> Cos he had a hideous beard, too ?

That's a point. thhat beard distracted people from his jumper.. JUST

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>> And where did it get you he, fantasizing about 16 year old girls
>
>And that's a problem _how_ ..? ;-)

I see your point

>Besides, I only look, but never touch. :-)

Don't worry, you'll learn

>He was generally regarded as Drewl's lapdog.

Whois Drewl?

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"Rush Wickes" <ru...@rush-w.com> wrote in message news:zXB_8.146345$WZ.4...@atlpnn01.usenetserver.com...

>
> "Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
> news:slrnajl2r0.1jlv....@lievre.voute.net...
> > Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 19:09:41 -0700, Rush Wickes <ru...@rush-w.com> a écrit
> :
>
> > If my memory serves me correctly, you're a single man of what, 25, 26 ?
> > At your age, I was chasing women with all the energy that `echo $DEITY`
> > gave me.
> >
> > My comment wasn't a slight on your reputation, for I have to add that
> > since I came back to the newsgroup, you have been much less of a
> > 'Drewl lapdog' than you were before I left. However, I can't help but
> > wonder if you'd be happier if you embraced life, instead of this rather
> > creepy fascination with the machinery of death.
>
> People have varying patterns when it comes to socializing. In all
> likelihood, I tend to be more reserved than you are in that respect.
>
> Actually, I'm as content as can be with what life has had to offer. What
> would make you think otherwise?

In a word??? That would be 'envy,' Rush. Dispite all of desi's
protests... It would be 'envy.'

PV

>
> --
> Rush Wickes -- remove the '-' to reply via e-mail
> Blacksburg, VA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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>
> "Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
> news:slrnajlto9.1ljd....@lievre.voute.net...
> > Le Sun, 21 Jul 2002 13:54:43 -0700, Rush Wickes <ru...@rush-w.com> a écrit
> :
>
> > There were only two people at that time, who had the password to the
> > Howard Garman account (for the newcomers, the account was in fact created
> > by Drewl, to impersonate Aitch, but Aitch (the 'posting name' of Howard)
> > managed to convince my-deja.com, to give him ownership of the account):
> Aitch,
> > and me.
> >
> > That afternoon, Aitch came onto ICQ, and said, 'Whatever you do, don't
> > change the password, and don't reveal it to anyone !' I asked him why,
> > and he said that he was chatting with you, and that you were asking him
> > for the password. He gave you the password, and about four hours later,
> > an ICQ message popped up on my screen. It was Aitch, asking if I had
> > touched the account. I replied no, as there was no reason for me to have
> > done so. He told me that Drewl had managed to get ownership of the
> > account, by logging in, and changing the password. The only way he
> > could have got the password, was from me, you, or Aitch.
>
> As far as I can remember, I never spoke with Aitch on ICQ. I may have sent
> him an e-mail or two, but none of those asked for any passwords. I do
> recall mentioning to him the flaw at my-deja.com after he asked me how Don
> was able to keep taking over his account.
>
> The temporary password for my-deja.com seemed to work even with the
> registered e-mail account as Aitch's? I seem to recall that there were a
> few posts with a return address of tik...@timewarp.co.uk or
> tik...@diamondfireworks.com that were definitely not from Howard, but I am
> at a loss to explain how that happened. The folks at Deja.com did send Don
> an e-mail threatening civil action for 'breaking into his 'own' account'
> however after he e-mailed to complain about Howard Garman 'hacking' into
> it -- the account being named howard...@my-deja.com.
>
>
> > > Certainly the entertaining and sometimes surreal verbal jousting which
> you
> > > and Don used to engage in has diminished in more recent times. I
> believe
> > > the energy has been fully exhausted on both sides.
> >
> > I note that you didn't deny the accusation. Still, you may remark that,
> > other than tweaking Drewl's 'billywank' persona from time to time, I
> > don't respond to Drewl. So to say that our 'verbal jousting' has
> > diminished, is like saying that Mother Theresa isn't being very talkative
> > these days ...
>
> By that, I was referring to the perspective of observers. You two would
> really manage to get worked up and often it was quite amusing. I think
> both sides do tend to embellish in their accusations. Desmond, I don't
> believe that Scottish Power has felony warrants out for your arrest or that
> you were the target of firebombing much less one emanating from a conspiracy
> related to this newsgroup. At the same time, I don't believe that the
> Baltimore authorities have or will be arrested/ing Don due to your
> complaints or that his wife has left him either for the same reason.
>

My sentiments exactly. None of those events are anything more
than figments of imagination from both sides, IMHO. My perception is
that it's more obviously so from the attacks Kool directs toward
desi... while it seems a bit more devious from desi... since I think
he REALLY expects others to believe the 'firebomb' and the
'Baltimore County Police,' nonsense. He should have halted that
transparent deception a long time ago.

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>
> "A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
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>
> >
> > My sentiments exactly. None of those events are anything more
> > than figments of imagination from both sides, IMHO. My perception is
> > that it's more obviously so from the attacks Kool directs toward
> > desi... while it seems a bit more devious from desi... since I think
> > he REALLY expects others to believe the 'firebomb' and the
> > 'Baltimore County Police,' nonsense. He should have halted that
> > transparent deception a long time ago.
>
> Come to think of it -- the Baltimore County Police would not have had any
> jurisdiction in the matter involving McDonald, for he lives inside the city
> proper, which is not in the jurisdiction of the outlying county by the same
> name.
>
They would not have had jurisdiction in any case. Desi claimed that
Kool was convicted of a Federal crime. When I explained that County
Police have nothing to do with investigating or prosecuting those
crimes, he did a two-step. I cannot believe that an Officer Lau would
call desi, out of blue, on an oversea call, and speak to him for an
hour about the case and the disposition of the case. Certainly,
I cannot see him doing anything more (and not even that) then
referring him to the FBI field office, or the Federal prosecutor's office.
It's the biggest hunk of baloney that's ever been attempted to be
perpetrated on this newsgroup. And anyone who believes the
'firebomb' was born yesterday.

Desi reminds me of a guy in the nude hunting for sharks at night
with a pocketknife. He's just asking for trouble. :-)

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:27:54 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> > My sentiments exactly.
>
> Yes, and what were your sentiments about Officer Rau, again, PV ? Were
> you not intending to call to find out if he even existed ? Did you
> call ?
>
I've been saving it for a 'surprise,' desi. Is it the 'Baltimore County Police,'
http://www.co.ba.md.us/police/police.htm
or the 'Baltimore County Sheriff'
http://www.co.ba.md.us/p.cfm/agencies/sheriff/index.cfm
?????
I'll report back, or perhaps Rush will, since he's closer.

bin # 2 -- <plink>

PV


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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: executioners job
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:36:56 +0000


>
>Le Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:35:31 GMT, Vlad Drac <pat...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
>
>>>> And where did it get you he, fantasizing about 16 year old girls
>
>>>And that's a problem _how_ ..? ;-)
>
>> I see your point
>

>:-)


>
>>>Besides, I only look, but never touch. :-)
>
>> Don't worry, you'll learn
>

>The One would kill me.


>
>>>He was generally regarded as Drewl's lapdog.
>
>> Whois Drewl?
>

>Some dumbfuck who used to post here, until his wife left him, he got
>fired, and gaoled for having obsessed a little too much over me.


>
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:46:58 +0000


>
>Le Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:27:54 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
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>{ snip }
>
>> My sentiments exactly.
>
>Yes, and what were your sentiments about Officer Rau, again, PV ? Were
>you not intending to call to find out if he even existed ? Did you
>call ?
>

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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: executioners job
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:01:46 +0000


>
>Le Sun, 21 Jul 2002 13:54:43 -0700, Rush Wickes <ru...@rush-w.com> a écrit :
>

>>> He was generally regarded as Drewl's lapdog. He would 'chat' with
>>> people on ICQ, and Drewl would 'reveal' the information gleaned in
>>> those chats, here on AADP. Drewl was able to get access to a my-deja.com
>>> account that way.
>
>> No, that wasn't how that happened. At the time, my-deja.com had a flaw
>> whereby it would issue the same temporary password to gain access to an
>> account after the user had indicated that they had forgotten their own.
>> Don was able to take full advantage of that in grappling with AiTch for
>> control over the one created in Howard Garman's name.
>
>The new password would then be sent to the e-mail account given at the
>time the my-deja.com account was created. That e-mail account was Drewl's.


>
>There were only two people at that time, who had the password to the
>Howard Garman account (for the newcomers, the account was in fact created
>by Drewl, to impersonate Aitch, but Aitch (the 'posting name' of Howard)
>managed to convince my-deja.com, to give him ownership of the account):
>Aitch,
>and me.
>
>That afternoon, Aitch came onto ICQ, and said, 'Whatever you do, don't
>change the password, and don't reveal it to anyone !' I asked him why,
>and he said that he was chatting with you, and that you were asking him
>for the password. He gave you the password, and about four hours later,
>an ICQ message popped up on my screen. It was Aitch, asking if I had
>touched the account. I replied no, as there was no reason for me to have
>done so. He told me that Drewl had managed to get ownership of the
>account, by logging in, and changing the password. The only way he
>could have got the password, was from me, you, or Aitch.
>

>> I decided to lay a 'sting' operation to verify this,
>>> by telling Rush on ICQ, that I had lost my job, and that my wife was
>>> leaving me. Sure enough, barely two hours later, Drewl posted that I
>>> had been fired, and that my wife had dumped me. As neither was true, and
>>> as I had given that 'information' _only_ to Rush, there was only one
>>> way that he could have learned it ...


>
>> Certainly the entertaining and sometimes surreal verbal jousting which you
>> and Don used to engage in has diminished in more recent times. I believe
>> the energy has been fully exhausted on both sides.
>
>I note that you didn't deny the accusation. Still, you may remark that,
>other than tweaking Drewl's 'billywank' persona from time to time, I
>don't respond to Drewl. So to say that our 'verbal jousting' has
>diminished, is like saying that Mother Theresa isn't being very talkative
>these days ...
>

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>Subject: Re: executioners job
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 17:19:00 +0000


>
>Le Sun, 21 Jul 2002 13:15:57 -0700, Rush Wickes <ru...@rush-w.com> a écrit :
>
>>> If my memory serves me correctly, you're a single man of what, 25, 26 ?
>>> At your age, I was chasing women with all the energy that `echo $DEITY`
>>> gave me.
>>>
>>> My comment wasn't a slight on your reputation, for I have to add that
>>> since I came back to the newsgroup, you have been much less of a
>>> 'Drewl lapdog' than you were before I left. However, I can't help but
>>> wonder if you'd be happier if you embraced life, instead of this rather
>>> creepy fascination with the machinery of death.
>
>> People have varying patterns when it comes to socializing. In all
>> likelihood, I tend to be more reserved than you are in that respect.
>

>You'd be surprised. I was never good at chatting up women, and only
>made the supreme effort where my wife is concerned, as I was (and am)
>sure that she is the One, and that I would (and will) die if she said
>no.


>
>> Actually, I'm as content as can be with what life has had to offer. What
>> would make you think otherwise?
>

>Dunno ... your posts here don't lead one to believe that you're very
>happy. If I'm mistaken, then good. For once, I'm happy to be. :-)


>
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>Subject: Re: executioners job
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:50:32 +0000


>
>Le Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:52:55 GMT, Vlad Drac <pat...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
>
>>>If my memory serves me correctly, you're a single man of what, 25, 26 ?
>>>At your age, I was chasing women with all the energy that `echo $DEITY`
>>>gave me.
>

>> And where did it get you he, fantasizing about 16 year old girls
>
>And that's a problem _how_ ..? ;-)
>

>Besides, I only look, but never touch. :-)
>

>>>My comment wasn't a slight on your reputation, for I have to add that
>>>since I came back to the newsgroup, you have been much less of a
>>>'Drewl lapdog' than you were before I left.
>

>> So how was Rush before you left ??


>
>He was generally regarded as Drewl's lapdog. He would 'chat' with
>people on ICQ, and Drewl would 'reveal' the information gleaned in
>those chats, here on AADP. Drewl was able to get access to a my-deja.com

>account that way. I decided to lay a 'sting' operation to verify this,


>by telling Rush on ICQ, that I had lost my job, and that my wife was
>leaving me. Sure enough, barely two hours later, Drewl posted that I
>had been fired, and that my wife had dumped me. As neither was true, and
>as I had given that 'information' _only_ to Rush, there was only one
>way that he could have learned it ...
>

>I haven't seen any such behaviour for a while.
>
>{ snip }


>
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>Subject: Re: executioners job
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 10:22:25 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 19:09:41 -0700, Rush Wickes <ru...@rush-w.com> a écrit :
>
>{ snip }


>
>>> Ever thought of getting a 'hobby' that involves life, rather than death,
>>> Rush ?
>>>
>>> Just a thought.
>

>> In the past, you've raised that challenge towards my reputation. I have
>> demonstrated through actions away from the internet that I have a
>legitimate
>> interest in this area of criminal justice. Just an hour ago I returned
>> from the quarterly meeting state-wide crime victims rights group to which I
>> belong. This required me to drive 4 hours each way -- my participation is
>> wholly voluntary. I could have done what many of my peers did this
>> weekend and go to the beach or out doing something 'fun'. However, even
>in
>> the moments of hearing a mother relate the traumatic events -- I feel that
>> in providing comfort and friendly legal advice, I am doing something much
>> better.


>
>If my memory serves me correctly, you're a single man of what, 25, 26 ?
>At your age, I was chasing women with all the energy that `echo $DEITY`
>gave me.
>

>My comment wasn't a slight on your reputation, for I have to add that
>since I came back to the newsgroup, you have been much less of a

>'Drewl lapdog' than you were before I left. However, I can't help but
>wonder if you'd be happier if you embraced life, instead of this rather
>creepy fascination with the machinery of death.
>

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> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:29:02 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a
écrit :
>

> >> >> I knew that you wouldn't keep me in the killfile, incubus. Besides,
> >> >> anyone coming onto my newsgroup and killfiling me, would have been
> >> >> expelled after 30 days.
>
> >> > LOL. Admit it. You didn't even know I killfiled you. Bear in mind
Desi
> > that
> >> > you are the first person I ever killfiled an the first person I ever
> > removed
> >> > from my killfile list :-)
>
> >> My secretary, Mr Jig Saw, advised me, through a communiqué from the
> >> Permanent Secretary to the AADP Commission, that a new arrival had
> >> done something of the sort.
> >>
> >> I decided not to expel you from my newsgroup, as I believed you showed
> >> promise. The other members of the Board were, I have to say, not in
> >> agreement with my decision. However, as I control 51% of the shares
> >> in this newsgroup, I told them to fuck off and shag a certain aged
> >> Floridian's wife, if they weren't happy.
> >>
> >> Curiously, they all supported me after that one ...
>
> > now come on Desi dude. You know as well as I do that it is impossible to
ban
> > somebody from a newsgroup or even a news server.
>
> Heh ... gotcha. ;-)
>
> > As for any bigoted retards
> > who think I need to prove myself to them, let them eat cake and follow
it
> > with a portion of my warty bare arse. As for you, I have to admit, I
have
> > missed your tales :-)
>
> Get off my leg, homeboy ...


Desi........

Does this mean that you and Incubus will be swapping spits anytime soon?


WooF w00f WooF


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