Nice Guys Are DOOMED Because Women Are IDIOTS (repost from ASF, of course)
Ray Gordon
a "great guy," but look inside the mind of the "great guy." You point out to
these women how dumb they are and they'll just hit you with "you're bitter."
Maybe so, but I'd rather be bitter than a FUCKING IDIOT.....also note how the
jerks practice "denial enabling" by defending the women as intelligent,
meaningful creatures.....
Please remember, nice guys, THIS is what you are being turned down for. Maybe
the women are nice, but they sure aren't that SMART.
Subject: Field Report - The power of social proof
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A long field report - demonstrating the the lastest weapon in a the
nuclear arsenal - SOCIAL PROOF!
Invited HB Redhead - a chick I'm screening to one of my favourite bars.
Got there a touch early, chatted to the bar staff,
ordered a jaffle and read until she arrived. Not a single chick
in the place paid any attention to me - that is until HB readhead
arrived. I greeted her with a kiss - and began a lenghty session of
kino and dirty conversation, discussing the finer points of what
could be possible between us. Drinking becomes a little power play
between us - she wants to see me drunk - I'm sticking to my PUA 2 drink
limit. She demands I buy a round, and for this one I decide to give in.
However, there's a price. At the bar, there are two chicks HB NZ 7 and
HB NZ 6, Nokia 3310 perched between them. I pick it up, and say "oooh -
a 3310. Why you'd you get this one?" HB 7 proceeds to explain - in a
New Zealand accent - her friend HB6, has been here 2 days and calls it
a "cell phone". Now in Australia - it's a mobile phone, not a cell
phone. So I'm away. Just then, a cute Blonde, HB 7.5 comes up and
starts talking to the waitress , and I'm thinking, I've got to get
these drinks - so I lean in and say to her "Can I piggbyback on your
order?" "Sure" "I'll have what she (HB redhead) ordered last time"
Meanwhile my New Zealand HBs are trying to cut back into the
conversation - "did you know TV STAR was in here last week" they are
me - I turn to the waitress and say "You didn't tell me that!" Cheeky
grin - She says " he's really thin" So I turn to HB Blonde and
say "Yep, they say TV really broadens your width" - and now I'm in with
her, because she's been on a few TV commercials - by this stage it's
getting pretty manic - conversation flying 4 ways. When the drinks
arrive, the waitress says I'll put it on your tab and so I bail with
drinks for HB redhead.
About 30 minutes later - I'm giving her a head, and breast and leg and
just about everything massage in the darker part of the bar. HB Blonde,
with goodlooking borefriend is stretched out playfully nearby,
surreptiously watching. HB redhead doesn't want to give me a real kiss
in the bar, so I politely tidy things up and walk her out. As he walk
past the NZ HBs, now joined by a third, I say "Bye" and give HB redhead
a serious squeeze.
At this point, I've seen HB Redhead off, and I'm contemplating going
home, when I realise I haven't paid my bar tab. So I decide, what the
heck, I was having fun I'll go back, pay my tab and see what happens.
This is where the social proof cuts in. I know the HB NZ trio are going
to ask me what happened to HB Redhead. Which they do. I tell them I
walked her home, with a big grin. Thus conversation is restarted. very
quickly the topic drifts on to sex - they want to know what my
relationship with HB Redhead is. I say, well, she's a friend - even
bigger grin. HB 6 offers up the expression "A freind with benefits?"
Yeah, that's it I say. Another of the trio asks why I didn't go home
with her. Oh, I like her, you know, but there's something missing -
hence begins a long conversation about love, connections, with lots of
meta-stating, me asking them to remember when they last fell in love -
how they knew etc etc - Note - at this point one of the Trio, lets call
her HB Forward slips out to take a mobile call and misses nearly all my
story telling and patterning. Another makes the distinction between
love and lust and then the talk gets really sexual. I tell them my
variation on toecutter's excellent love line story (credit and thanks
toecutter - it's sooo the real thing) wherein our fanatsy radio caller
has the problem of enjoy an enormous dick way too much. Then where's
back to why don't I love HB Redhead. I detour into the VKA describe
their favourite beach as a way of explaining how people are all
different - at this point HB Blonde arrives at the bar, she's leaving
with her borefriend. Now, get this. She stops me, and asks me about my
the last script I'm working on, and *writes out her number on the bar,
with borefriend tugging at her arm* - so I say - you'd like to have a
coffee, huh? She says, yes, call me. He borefriend drags her away
with "I'm getting bored" in a whiney tone. Whoa. I can only say social
proof is REALLY POTENT. At that point, I owned this bar. I'm getting
kino and laughs from the thre NZ HB simulateously, women are giving me
there numbers right in front of their borefriends - social proof is
probably the most potent weapon in the arsenal.
So back to the NZ HBs. Number three returns, and they ask me to *repeat
the radio girl story*. HB Forward tells me she likes, ordinary, good,
and phenominal, but too big is just plain frightening. This leads to
whispers, serious kino, she's grabbing my arse, and I'm in the
interesting position of trying figure what my play will be. HB Foward
makes it for me. Tongue down on the spot. I break it off, glance at my
watch, tell them it's been great, put I've got to go, how can we
continue this another time - and instantly all three #s. HB Forward
demands another kiss, right in front of her friends. One mutters, "oh
gross" - so I squeeze HB forwards arse and give HB 6 some quick tips
about fun places to go in my town, trying to disarm any nasty
cockblocking and bad mouthing after I'm gone. I know I could have
closed, probably all the way right there with HB forward, but I
couldn't be bothered going for the separation. Social Proof!
What can you do?
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Dwayne Conyers
2. A nice guy will not give her that feeling
3. A man needs to demonstrate that, if trouble arises, he can protect her.
4. Nuff Said...
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anna b
... but frankly, I don't really care if he's nice or not, I just want someone
who will help my check the tire pressure in my car :P
Dwayne Conyers wrote:
> 1. A woman wants to feel safe and protected
> 2. A nice guy will not give her that feeling
> 3. A man needs to demonstrate that, if trouble arises, he can protect her.
> 4. Nuff Said...
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Ray Gordon
>2. A nice guy will not give her that feeling
>3. A man needs to demonstrate that, if trouble arises, he can protect her.
>4. Nuff Said...
What, that men have to be violent to get women?
Isn't it the POLICE'S job to protect?
Jason McClain
news:20001216083310...@ng-co1.aol.com...
> >1. A woman wants to feel safe and protected
> >2. A nice guy will not give her that feeling
> >3. A man needs to demonstrate that, if trouble arises, he can protect
her.
> >4. Nuff Said...
>
> What, that men have to be violent to get women?
>
> Isn't it the POLICE'S job to protect?
Actually, if that were true we wouldn't have community watch groups, the
White Angels, Bounty Hunters, Security Staff, etc.
We're all supposed to watch out for our fellow humans. That's my opinion
anyways.
Ray Gordon
>> >2. A nice guy will not give her that feeling
>> >3. A man needs to demonstrate that, if trouble arises, he can protect
>her.
>> >4. Nuff Said...
>>
>> What, that men have to be violent to get women?
>>
>> Isn't it the POLICE'S job to protect?
>
> Actually, if that were true we wouldn't have community watch groups, the
>White Angels, Bounty Hunters, Security Staff, etc.
>
> We're all supposed to watch out for our fellow humans. That's my opinion
>anyways.
To the extent that these groups protect people, they work in CONJUNCTION with
the police.
Like a nice guy can't dial 911?
Courageous
> Isn't it the POLICE'S job to protect?
No. In fact, it's well-established that the police do not have an obligation to
protect. To the contrary, police are the criminal equivalent to janitors. Really
only the citizen per se can protect themselves; the police can only clean up
the mess -- intercede after the fact.
C//
Ray Gordon
In the situations where a man would "protect" he would be able to call the
police, who could take action.
The other implication is that nice guys couldn't offer any such "protection" or
that being nice equates to being weak, which is also invalid.
badinfluence
> Notice how the women think they are having a deep, meaningful conversation with
> a "great guy," but look inside the mind of the "great guy." You point out to
> these women how dumb they are and they'll just hit you with "you're bitter."
> Maybe so, but I'd rather be bitter than a FUCKING IDIOT.....
Although I don't agree with all that Ray posts, this one is pretty acurate. My
wife left me for a co-worker in 1997 that "really listened to her" and was her
"soul mate". This guy, 13 years her senior and never married turned out to be an
emotionally and physically abusive idiot, and she fell for the shit he fed her
hook, line and sinker. He knew how to get in her pants, knew how to tell her what
she wanted to hear based on her bitches about me. She loaded his gun with shit she
didn't like in a man, he fired back at her based on the loads she gave him and they
were married. Two-and-a-half years later they are divorcing becuase he always
calls her a bitch and a whore and hits her. But hey, he was her soul mate.
Am I bitter, not anymore. But realistic, yes. Many women fall for men that treat
them badly. Why? I don't know. But they do.
bad
Ray Gordon
>My
>wife left me for a co-worker in 1997 that "really listened to her" and was
>her
>"soul mate". This guy, 13 years her senior and never married turned out to
>be an
>emotionally and physically abusive idiot, and she fell for the shit he fed
>her
>hook, line and sinker. He knew how to get in her pants, knew how to tell her
>what
>she wanted to hear based on her bitches about me. She loaded his gun with
>shit she
>didn't like in a man, he fired back at her based on the loads she gave him
>and they
>were married. Two-and-a-half years later they are divorcing becuase he
>always
>calls her a bitch and a whore and hits her. But hey, he was her soul mate.
>
>Am I bitter, not anymore. But realistic, yes. Many women fall for men that
>treat
>them badly. Why? I don't know. But they do.
What were the respective job titles?
Lamers hit on women they work with. Those are about the LAST women I'd want to
get involved with, even if they're hot, because it's just not worth it. It's
nice having an office free of sexual tension.
Barry
wrote:
>Nice does not equal Doormat or Unable to Protect & Serve
>
>... but frankly, I don't really care if he's nice or not, I just want someone
>who will help my check the tire pressure in my car :P
Hey, that's something I can do! Hadn't realised that was the one
skill women see as desirable - should i print up a T-shirt?
barry
Barry
Gordon) wrote:
>Lamers hit on women they work with. Those are about the LAST women I'd want to
>get involved with, even if they're hot, because it's just not worth it. It's
>nice having an office free of sexual tension.
I agree with the sentiment, and when things go wrong, it can stuff up
the workplace in a big way. Having said that, at work, you do tend to
get a pretty clear look at a person you work with and get to know her
in ways it might never be possible to do in a dating situation. And i
see that it is a growing trend for co-workers to get it together, as
the workplace becomes somewhere where we spend more and more time, its
more difficult to find the time or energy to socialise outside work.
And they said technology would reduce the burden of work on mankind.
Yeah right!
barry
Ray Gordon
>to
>>get involved with, even if they're hot, because it's just not worth it.
>It's
>>nice having an office free of sexual tension.
>
>I agree with the sentiment, and when things go wrong, it can stuff up
>the workplace in a big way. Having said that, at work, you do tend to
>get a pretty clear look at a person you work with and get to know her
>in ways it might never be possible to do in a dating situation.
It's more that men can know they won't be brutally rejected and can capitalize
on the forced interaction. In other words: LAME.
>And i
>see that it is a growing trend for co-workers to get it together, as
>the workplace becomes somewhere where we spend more and more time, its
>more difficult to find the time or energy to socialise outside work.
>And they said technology would reduce the burden of work on mankind.
>Yeah right!
>barry
I don't buy that argument. There's always time to find women to date.
Courageous
>It's more that men can know they won't be brutally rejected and can capitalize
>on the forced interaction. In other words: LAME.
Do note that this goes the other way around. Women decide, through
close contact, that they want their coworkers sometimes, too. Happens
all the time.
C//
anna b
don't just stop with the t-shirt, add it to all your business cards too. *nod,nod*
Barry wrote:
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