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Jacob W. Haller

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May 2, 2003, 4:43:25 PM5/2/03
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Joe Manfre sent me an unsolicited package of odd, rare, and sought-after
sodas which I will be sampling over the next week or so. I took some
group pictures of them which are up for now at
<http://jwgh.org/temp/soda> if you want to have a look.

The selection I decided to try is Doctor Whatever, a 'Globally
Refreshing Elixer' that has a bottlecap with a swirly white questionmark
on it. (My first contribution to the Interrobang Cartel rider is that
they have to have three bottles of cold Doctor Whatever available before
every show. If I can find a soft drink that has an exclamation mark on
the cap, then that can be my second contribution.)

But the really real reason that Joe chose this particular beverage to me
is that is has been endorsed by no less an authority than Mr. Archimedes
Plutonium, the King of Science:

| Today I ate a tasty supper of eggs microwaved and I have a technique
| that makes them puffy and better tasting than stove cooked. I like my
| 3 scrambled eggs with 2 of the yellows removed. And I had some Journey
| Doctor Whatever to drink and some black refried beans with Camenbert
| cheese and celery. The Doctor Whatever reminded me of my life when I
| was perhaps 19 years old, out West on vacation with my Father and
| someplace where we had stopped to eat dinner I ordered a "sasparillo".

I guess to make the experience complete I should make some scrambled
eggs and refried beans with Camembert and celery, but that isn't really
going to happen, so I'll just plunge in and give it a try.

The bouquet is sort of reminiscent of Dr. Pepper, except I would say
it's stronger and fruitier. The taste is probably closer to Dr. Pepper
than to other soft drinks I've had, but it has sharper aftertaste - sort
of cherrylike but I think there's a lot of different kind of spices and
ingredients there that make it up (it doesn't tast like REAL fake cherry
flavoring).

Overall, I give it the big thumb's up. Fortunately Joe sent me three
bottles of it, so there will be additional opportunities for Doctor
Whatever enjoyment!

Thanks to Joe Manfre for sending me the soda, and apologies to
Archimedes Plutonium for searchenginebombing him again. Further
beverage reviews to come!

-jwgh

--
"Medicine was so backwards in the early 1500s that the curative powers
of the leech had not yet been discovered."
- Joel Achenbach, _Why Things Are Volume II: The Big Picture_

Darla Vladschyk

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May 2, 2003, 9:19:50 PM5/2/03
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sp...@jwgh.org (Jacob W. Haller) wrote:

>Joe Manfre sent me an unsolicited package of odd, rare, and sought-after

>sodas ...

No Orangina. No Birch Beer. No Loganberry Punch.

PLORNKO

-=D=-

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Schwa Love

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May 4, 2003, 11:27:59 PM5/4/03
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DarlaVl...@hotmail.com (Darla Vladschyk) wrote in
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> sp...@jwgh.org (Jacob W. Haller) wrote:
>
>>Joe Manfre sent me an unsolicited package of odd, rare, and sought-after
>>sodas ...
>
> No Orangina. No Birch Beer. No Loganberry Punch.

Journey Birch Beer is better than their Doctor Whatever. In addition to
coffee, we sold Journey sodas, Stewart's sodas, and Odwalla notsodas at
that coffee shop I used to work at, which was nice for me while working,
since I hate coffee.

-- Schwa ---

Joe Manfre

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May 5, 2003, 6:58:02 PM5/5/03
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Schwa Love (schw...@yahoo.com) wrote:
>DarlaVl...@hotmail.com (Darla Vladschyk) wrote in
>> sp...@jwgh.org (Jacob W. Haller) wrote:
>>
>>>Joe Manfre sent me an unsolicited package of odd, rare, and
>>>sought-after sodas ...
>>
>> No Orangina. No Birch Beer. No Loganberry Punch.

Guh? You can get Orangina anywhere. And birch beer is available at
every sub shop.


>Journey Birch Beer is better than their Doctor Whatever.

I can't quite see it. If it were that great, Archie Pu would have
mentioned it as often as he mentioned Doctor Whatever and Ancient
Cola. I believe I have now scientifically disproven your assertion
and you will have to mail me a formal letter of groveling apology.
Groveling! I want to see groveling!


JM

Darla Vladschyk

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May 5, 2003, 7:04:49 PM5/5/03
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man...@world.std.com (Joe Manfre) wrote:

>Schwa Love (schw...@yahoo.com) wrote:
>>DarlaVl...@hotmail.com (Darla Vladschyk) wrote in
>>> sp...@jwgh.org (Jacob W. Haller) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Joe Manfre sent me an unsolicited package of odd, rare, and
>>>>sought-after sodas ...
>>>
>>> No Orangina. No Birch Beer. No Loganberry Punch.
>
>Guh? You can get Orangina anywhere. And birch beer is available at
>every sub shop.

Oh.

In the Maritimes it's only available in a small shop in Frederickton
called "International Exotic Foodstuffs, Eh."

Many years ago in San Francisco I dated a guy who never tired of
showing me that you could shake Orangina up really HARD and it would
fizz but not overfloe its pudgy little bottle.

It was a simpler time.

-=D=-

Schwa Love

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man...@world.std.com (Joe Manfre) wrote in
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Birch Beer is King! Doctor Whatever is inferior because it asked for by
name by teenage girls every three minutes, just like Journey's Loozar Beer
and Shenandoah Root Duh. I'm sorry, but I require The Plutonium Foundation
for Science and Sweet Sweet Sugar to file a lawsuit on your behalf first,
before you see any groveling.

I will however be perfectly happy to participate in rotfling, grovering,
and robblerobbling.

-- Schwa ---

Beable van Polasm

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May 5, 2003, 10:52:16 PM5/5/03
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Schwa Love <schw...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> man...@world.std.com (Joe Manfre) wrote in
> news:slrnbbdr3q....@shell01.TheWorld.com:
> >
> > I can't quite see it. If it were that great, Archie Pu would have
> > mentioned it as often as he mentioned Doctor Whatever and Ancient
> > Cola. I believe I have now scientifically disproven your assertion
> > and you will have to mail me a formal letter of groveling apology.
> > Groveling! I want to see groveling!

Yes, Joe. How can you see grovelling in a LETTER? You want a GIF!!

> Birch Beer is King! Doctor Whatever is inferior because it asked for by
> name by teenage girls every three minutes,

What! EVER!

> just like Journey's Loozar Beer and Shenandoah Root Duh. I'm sorry,
> but I require The Plutonium Foundation for Science and Sweet Sweet
> Sugar to file a lawsuit on your behalf first, before you see any
> groveling.

I would like to take this opportunity to deny that I am in any way
affiliated with the Archimedes Plutonium Science And Sweet Sweet Sugar
Foundation And Legal Law Desk. ATOM! Look, if I've got a thousand tons
of sugar, I have to get rid of it somewhere! Mmmmmmm sugar....
AAAUUUGGHHH! BEES!

--
Why are General Tommy Franks and H.G. Nelson never seen in the
same place at the same time? -- Phil Doyle
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Schwa Love

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May 7, 2003, 12:05:48 AM5/7/03
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Beable van Polasm <beable+...@beable.com.invalid> wrote in
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> Schwa Love <schw...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> I'm sorry,
>> but I require The Plutonium Foundation for Science and Sweet Sweet
>> Sugar to file a lawsuit on your behalf first, before you see any
>> groveling.
>
> I would like to take this opportunity to deny that I am in any way
> affiliated with the Archimedes Plutonium Science And Sweet Sweet Sugar
> Foundation And Legal Law Desk. ATOM! Look, if I've got a thousand tons
> of sugar, I have to get rid of it somewhere! Mmmmmmm sugar....
> AAAUUUGGHHH! BEES!

In Americam, first you get the sugar, then you get the plutonium, then you
get the radiation poisoning. The bees gave me radiation poisoning! Now my
butt all big!

-- Schwa ---

Jacob W. Haller

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May 7, 2003, 2:07:49 PM5/7/03
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Last week I wrote:

> Joe Manfre sent me an unsolicited package of odd, rare, and sought-after
> sodas which I will be sampling over the next week or so. I took some
> group pictures of them which are up for now at
> <http://jwgh.org/temp/soda> if you want to have a look.

Today's selection is 'non-alcoholic sangria SENORIAL Natural and
Artifical Flavor Sangria Flavored Carbonated Beverage'. Before even
opening it, there were several things I liked about this one:

* It's made from both natural AND artificial Sangria!

* The bottle is sort of shaped like a little wine bottle, instead of the
soda bottle-shaped soda bottles you usually see! Quite sophisticated.
The use of lower-case letters emphasizes that this is not one of your
STUPID BABYISH SODA-POPS FOR KIDS.

* It doesn't have a twist-off cap, so you know that the beverage maker
was focused so much on making it a great soda that they couldn't be
bothered with fripperies like making it easy to open!

The first thing I noticed upon opening the bottle is that the stuff is
really fizzy. It's even fizzier than Dr Pepper, which is so fizzy that
they have to put a warning label on it explaining that the bottle could
explode at any moment, killing you and everyone you care about, so be
careful for gosh sakes! However, I have a mop at hand for just such
soda-related disasters, so I was able to clean up with a minimum of fuss
and effort.

Next, on to the smell. It smells quite grapey. Now, to decant into a
handy pint glass ... hm, that's a nice dark red color, enough to make me
wonder if it actually smells like cherries. Another whiff confirms that
I was right the first time and it is in fact more grapelike. Must be
the FD&C red #40.

Now for the taste. Quite nice! The grape soda taste is there, but it
has a slight tang of something alcoholic that makes it more interesting
and tasty (even though I don't as a rule like alcoholic beverages). The
aftertaste reminds me of eating those little grape-flavored hard candies
that come in small round tins.

To sum up, all-around tasty, and another Joe Manfre soda selection
triumph. Thanks again, Joe!

Glenn Knickerbocker

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May 7, 2003, 4:03:20 PM5/7/03
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"Jacob W. Haller" wrote:
> Today's selection is 'non-alcoholic sangria SENORIAL Natural and
> Artifical Flavor Sangria Flavored Carbonated Beverage'.

This is my usual choice at El Bracero (on Main Street in Poughkeepsie by
the Salvation Army) because I'm too lazy to ask which Jarritos flavors
they have today, and the one they never run out of, apple, is too tart
to complement hot peppers well. This Sunday, I took a bunch of people
to El Bracero who had never been there before, but they couldn't really
appreciate it properly because of recent remodeling. The bar was
shortened to make room for more tables up front by the window, and most
of the kitschy decor hasn't found its way back up onto the walls yet.
They did get the full Mexican jukebox experience, however, since there
were no other gringos in sight. Also, I forgot that he'd switched from
his wicked hot mole Poblano recipe to a much milder, fruity sauce (with
plum and/or tamarind, I've never asked which). This turned out to be
for the best, though, because one of the two mole lovers who didn't want
anything extra hot needed to leave early, and he finished his fajitas
much faster than he would have the pollo en mole, and the other, who was
not so easily warned off, wound up with a pleasantly spicy sauce rather
than a chemically scorched tongue.

ŹR

David DeLaney

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May 7, 2003, 7:45:19 PM5/7/03
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Jacob W. Haller <sp...@jwgh.org> wrote:
>Today's selection is 'non-alcoholic sangria SENORIAL Natural and
>Artifical Flavor Sangria Flavored Carbonated Beverage'. Before even
>opening it, there were several things I liked about this one:

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>However, I have a mop at hand for just such
>soda-related disasters, so I was able to clean up with a minimum of fuss
>and effort.

Kontext-Away returns to its balanced breakfast, satiated.

Dave "this has been a mutual of oompahpah moment" DeLaney
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Jacob W. Haller

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May 8, 2003, 2:48:42 PM5/8/03
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[Screen goes all wavy and dissolves to flashback]

> Joe Manfre sent me an unsolicited package of odd, rare, and sought-after
> sodas which I will be sampling over the next week or so. I took some
> group pictures of them which are up for now at <http://jwgh.org/temp/soda>
> if you want to have a look.

[Flashback ends, life goes on as normal.]

Today's selection is "INCA KOLA, the Golden kola, the golden carbonated
beverage". The crossbar in the 't' in 'the' is really long and crosses
the 'h' as well, so it looks something like:

| |
---------------+-+---------------
| |
| | . .-.
| | / | +-'
| |/ | '-'

Unlike the other sodas Joe got me, Inca Kola came in a can, so in order
to discover what color it is, it was necessary to decant it into a
glass.

But first, the odor test.

Last summer there was a sale on some sort of cheap generic-brand soda,
and I got small bottles of champagne-flavored soda, cotton
candy-flavored soda, and bubble gum-flavored soda. This reminds me of
all of them mixed together. Pungent!

Now to decant.

Good lord, I had no idea gold was that color. The soda is a really
bright sort of fluorescent yellow -- it sort of looks like one of the
substances that would be bubbling away in a mad scientist's laboratory
in a mediocre science fiction movie. Wow.

And now for the taste test. Hey, fake bubble gum flavor -- it's like
there's a party in my mouth and everyone's invited! There's a slight
sour/bitter taste in there too; not sure what that's all about, but I'm
not complaining.

Well, that was certainly unique. Thanks again to Joe Manfre for
expanding my sodalogical horizons!

Kevin S. Wilson

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May 8, 2003, 6:09:35 PM5/8/03
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On Thu, 8 May 2003 14:48:42 -0400, sp...@jwgh.org (Jacob W. Haller)
wrote:

>it's like


>there's a party in my mouth and everyone's invited!

That's not how the saying goes, and you know it!

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"You can safely ignore Kevin in order to
maximise life's experience." --A. Loon, in alt.religion.kibology

John Burrage

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sp...@jwgh.org (Jacob W. Haller) wrote:

>
>Today's selection is "INCA KOLA, the Golden kola, the golden carbonated
>beverage".

This is REALLY off topic, but I wonder what happened to Chris 'Koala
3K' Slat? (Because if you rearrange the letters of Inca Kola, and then
add some, and then take away the n, you get Chris 'Koala 3K' Slat,
which is what made me think of him.)

By gee, I might have to start writing some of those Ghetto Batman
adventures myself if he doesn't get his act together soon.


--
John Burrage http://members.iinet.net.au/~burrage/
"That makes one year to go before I'm headline news
in every newspaper in the world." - George Hammond,
1 July 2002.

James Kibo Parry

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May 9, 2003, 1:42:40 AM5/9/03
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Jacob W. Haller (sp...@jwgh.org) wrote:
>
> Today's selection is 'non-alcoholic sangria SENORIAL Natural and
> Artifical Flavor Sangria Flavored Carbonated Beverage'.

I've had that. It's not bad. It actually has somewhat of a cheap-red-
wine-sediment flavor, not Kool-Aidy at all. I managed to get a slight buzz
off it, so I think it may contain a small quantity of actual wine, possibly
on the order of 2 proof. (That's legally considered "non-alcoholic", even
if it has more active ingredients than the average dose of cootie spray.)
I don't drink, and I'm really skinny, so it doesn't take much to make my
brain get all buzzy.

> Before even opening it, there were several things I liked about this one:
>
> * It's made from both natural AND artificial Sangria!
>
> * The bottle is sort of shaped like a little wine bottle, instead of the
> soda bottle-shaped soda bottles you usually see! Quite sophisticated.
> The use of lower-case letters emphasizes that this is not one of your
> STUPID BABYISH SODA-POPS FOR KIDS.
>
> * It doesn't have a twist-off cap, so you know that the beverage maker
> was focused so much on making it a great soda that they couldn't be
> bothered with fripperies like making it easy to open!

I've only seen it here in plastic soda bottles with twist caps.
They sell it at the local drugstore, right next to that revolting
tamarind-flavored brown drink and the even more revolting V-8
carrot-and-pineapple-juice-like-substitute-blended-from-concentrate-
pink-slime-in-a-bottle.

(But when it comes to awful V-8 products, Canada is king, because
they have a new one called "V-Go", which is something like regular
V-8 with green peppers and a bunch of corn syrup in it.)

> The first thing I noticed upon opening the bottle is that the stuff is
> really fizzy. It's even fizzier than Dr Pepper, which is so fizzy that
> they have to put a warning label on it explaining that the bottle could
> explode at any moment, killing you and everyone you care about, so be
> careful for gosh sakes! However, I have a mop at hand for just such
> soda-related disasters, so I was able to clean up with a minimum of fuss
> and effort.

If you enjoy that effect, you should try the one-liter plastic Polar sodas.
I don't know how they manage to do it, but whenever you open one of those,
you get a super-dee-duper geyser squirting out from under the cap in all
directions, and possibly also into the fourth dimension, because the jets
are so powerful that they can go through anything, even stuff that hasn't
yet been discovered. I think they pressurize all the bottles with a
bicycle pump or something.

> Next, on to the smell. It smells quite grapey. Now, to decant into a
> handy pint glass ... hm, that's a nice dark red color, enough to make me
> wonder if it actually smells like cherries. Another whiff confirms that
> I was right the first time and it is in fact more grapelike. Must be
> the FD&C red #40.
>
> Now for the taste. Quite nice! The grape soda taste is there, but it
> has a slight tang of something alcoholic that makes it more interesting
> and tasty (even though I don't as a rule like alcoholic beverages). The
> aftertaste reminds me of eating those little grape-flavored hard candies
> that come in small round tins.

My guess is that it's grape-flavored soda with some wine-barrel-bottom
sediment stirred in.

Now, if you want something scary, I can go over to Chinatown and get
you one of the jars of fire-engine-red lumpy "Fermented Sediment".
It's apparently rice that's been subjected to the same process used
to make other kinds of rancid slime, plus nuclear-strength red dye
to keep you from finding out what color it _really_ is.

For added fun, you could get a copy of The Sausage Maker catalog and
order a big sack of Fermento, and sprinkle Fermento on everything you
eat from now on. Also get some natural casings and stuff everything
you eat into one before you eat it. It's kind of hard to get a
whole soft pretzel into a hog middle, but it's the only way you can
incorporate pretzels into an all-sausage diet.

Fermento! Ask for it by name! And hog middles! Ask for them by odor!

-- K.

I see from my records that
it was August 18, 2001, when
I got lightly buzzed off the
non-alcoholic sangria, and
this is what I learned:

"Never attempt to drink a bottle
of sangria and typeset Chinese
at the same time."

leo sgouros

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James Kibo Parry wrote:
<snip>


>
> -- K.
>
> I see from my records that
> it was August 18, 2001, when
> I got lightly buzzed off the
> non-alcoholic sangria, and
> this is what I learned:
>
> "Never attempt to drink a bottle
> of sangria and typeset Chinese
> at the same time."

DOC THAT CHINK SODA A DAYS PAY FER BEIN FLAT ON THE JOB

Glenn Knickerbocker

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May 9, 2003, 11:19:18 AM5/9/03
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James Kibo Parry wrote:
> Jacob W. Haller (sp...@jwgh.org) wrote:
> They sell it at the local drugstore, right next to that revolting
> tamarind-flavored brown drink

HEY! That's my FAVORITE revolting tamarind-flavored brown drink you're
talking about there! Now I'm going to have to go over to the El Paso
Deli in Highland and fill up my trunk with cases of Jarritos and start
finding excuses to swing through Providence on my way home from Nashua!
Or else just send Jake one of those samplers from mexgrocer.com.

> If you enjoy that effect, you should try the one-liter plastic Polar sodas.
> I don't know how they manage to do it, but whenever you open one of those,
> you get a super-dee-duper geyser squirting out from under the cap in all
> directions, and possibly also into the fourth dimension,

I would try to find some way to claim credit for this if Polar's web
site weren't such a liar. It claims that they consolidated all
operations in Worcester in 1970, but their bottling plant in Milton, New
York was open until sometime after they acquired Adirondack in 1995. I
drive by it on my way to work every day. At some point, Snapple bought
it and took down Polar's old tanks that always looked as though they
were about to fall over across Route 9W. I think it was probably only
the excessive carbonation and jets into the Fourth Dimension that kept
them upright in the first place.

ŹR

Pugg

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May 9, 2003, 12:41:16 PM5/9/03
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Previously on ark, we heard ki...@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry)
say:

[Awwww yeah! Ultra Smoove Kon-sexy Away says, "this one's just for the
ladies!"]

>I don't drink, and I'm really skinny, so it doesn't take much to make my
>brain get all buzzy.

[Uh-huh! Ultra Smoove Kon-sexy Away says, "ladies, you know what to
do!"]

pugg
--

Jacob W. Haller

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May 9, 2003, 3:55:39 PM5/9/03
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James "Kibo" Parry <ki...@world.std.com> wrote:

> > * It doesn't have a twist-off cap, so you know that the beverage maker
> > was focused so much on making it a great soda that they couldn't be
> > bothered with fripperies like making it easy to open!
>
> I've only seen it here in plastic soda bottles with twist caps.

This is what Joe said that he's seen it in also, and that when he's
gotten it previously it didn't explodiate all over everything the way
the bottle I had did. I suspect that the main reason that it fizzed all
over the place was because of the shape of the glass bottle -- as I said
in my previous message it's sort of wine bottle shaped, so the neck is
both thin and long, which means it doesn't take much foam to fill it up
and spill all over everything.

In terms of making-a-big-fizzy-explosion though I don't think it beats
the marble soda that I got at the Super 88 at your recommendation.
That's some fizzy soda!

> My guess is that it's grape-flavored soda with some wine-barrel-bottom
> sediment stirred in.

Hm, do you know what's in that wine sediment?
<http://www.snopes.com/horrors/food/evian.asp>

Jacob W. Haller

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May 9, 2003, 4:24:42 PM5/9/03
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[Kontext-Include battles its way through a crowd of its evil twin
Kontext-Away's hired goons, pushes the Important Local Dignitary safely
out of harm's way, then shouts to the assembled crowd:]

> Joe Manfre sent me an unsolicited package of odd, rare, and sought-after
> sodas which I will be sampling over the next week or so. I took some
> group pictures of them which are up for now at <http://jwgh.org/temp/soda>
> if you want to have a look.

[A shot rings out and Kontext-Include crumples to the ground! To the
relief of all, as it's carried away on a stretcher to the waiting
ambulance he manages to turn its face to the television and give a smile
and thumbs-up.]

Soda #4 is SANPELLEGRINO LIMONATA SPARKLING LEMON BEVERAGE. I have been
warned in advance that it is sour, but I laugh in the face of such
warnings! The bottle is short, sort of oval, and textured, sort of like
they wanted it to be shaped by a lemon but were foiled by the fact that
a lemon is not actually able to stand up on its end and also has no
obvious place for a cap. There are nice big red stars on the label and
bottle caps, so perhaps this is some sort of Communist beverage, but I
do not plan to share it with any of you, so there.

Before opening the bottle I noticed that there was some sort of pale
sediment on the bottom. I assume that this is either bits of lemon, or
possibly pure refined sugar or citric acid. Time will tell ...

The (non-twist-off) bottle cap has been removed and it's time to take a
sniff. Smells lemony! Which I guess is to be expected.

Now for a sip. This is pretty nice -- it isn't overly sweet like most
citrussy soft drinks I've otherwise encountered, and the lemon taste is
present but isn't overpoweringly sour. The aftertaste is more
identifiably lemony, possibly caused by the lingering lemony sediment, a
phrase which comes trippingly to the tongue.

This would be a pleasant beverage to drink while sitting on the front
porch, looking at the horizon, and not thinking of anything in
particular, an activity which I hope to spend a lot of time engaged in
this summer.

Gregory King

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May 11, 2003, 10:54:38 PM5/11/03
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In article <1fuld0f.oe3rez1bh4zwgN%sp...@jwgh.org>, sp...@jwgh.org says...

[snip jwgh's reviews of interesting sodas]

Coincidentally, I tested out two exciting new soda flavors today as I did
my grocery shopping. Since I only shop in stores that are owned by
gigantic conglomerates, these are just variations of national brands, and
you have probably already had some and don't care what I think.

Mountain Dew LiveWire: This exciting new flavor of Mountain Dew is only
available Summer 2003! But because I know how everyone loves my boring
reviews of bland soda, so I travelled a couple months into the future and
bought a bottle. According to the label, the natural and artificial
flavors are "orange ignited". Sadly, this turns out to be a lie, because
the soda does not actually taste like burning fruit. Nor does it taste
anything like Mountain Dew. You can't even taste the brominated
vegetable oil! I think it helps that they actually put some orange juice
in it.

Tropical Sprite Remix: This is purported to be Sprite with tropical
flavors. I don't really know what the "Remix" part is supposed to mean.
Maybe they made Tropical Sprite once and it was really awful so they
decided they had to remix it. Or maybe they were worried that people
would think it was made out of a species of damselflies (Nehalennia
minuta). Or maybe they just tacked on the "Remix" to give them excuse to
put a swirly distorted logo on the label. Anyway, this actually tastes
like what they say it is. I don't know what fruits it is supposed to
taste like, but it does taste like the "tropical flavor" that is in other
things, so I guess it works.

All in all, two inoffensive but boring sodas. I could theoretically
imagine buying them again if there was nothing available that I actually
liked.

--
Greg
http://flyingpawn.com

Jacob W. Haller

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Jacob W. Haller <sp...@jwgh.org> wrote:

Hey! Do you know what?

> Joe Manfre sent me an unsolicited package of odd, rare, and sought-after
> sodas which I will be sampling over the next week or so. I took some
> group pictures of them which are up for now at <http://jwgh.org/temp/soda>
> if you want to have a look.

THAT is what is what!

Next up on the block is Sanbittèr, the Sanpellegrino taste sensation
that Jarai posted about once upon a time.

In the interests of full disclosure, I should admit that I have had
Sanbittèr before on a couple of occasions -- they sell it at the big
liquor store near the town I grew up in. However!

Sanbitter comes in a tiny little bottle; its diameter is maybe double
the diameter of a bottlecap, or possibly a little less, and it's maybe
four inches tall (or, since it is after a European beverage, about a
quilli-hectare). The ingredient list is pretty minimalist: "carbonated
water, sugar, flavors, citrus extracts, FD&C red #40". From this we
deduce that sugar is flavorless -- good to know!

As you might deduce from the presence of red #40 on the ingredient list,
the soda is very red. If I ever make a mad scientist-type lab it can
have an honored place there -- it will provide a nice contrast with Inca
Kola's bright yellow.

OK, popping the cap ... despite the presence of carbonation this is very
not-fizzy. If you look closely you can see the presence of tiny
nanobobbles making up an extremely small ring of foam. The smell --
what does it smell like? It smells sort of like anagustera bitters,
maybe, but maybe not too. There's a sort of Moxie undertone there, a
statement which will be of use to the .0001% of people worldwide who
have ever been close enough to Moxie to know what it smells like.

So, down the hatch. Woah! This has a very strong flavor, of the
'making a face and shuddering' variety. Interestingly, your first
reaction is, 'Wow, bitter!' but then after you actually swallow it the
aftertaste sets in and you realize that you never really knew what
bitter meant in the first place. (In terms of picturing it, think of
eating roasted-almost-to-the-point-of-burning citrus zest, maybe.) And
yet ... it's something you could get used to and perhaps even come to
enjoy as a part of your daily routine. (I think Jarai briefly developed
a Sanbittèr habit, so perhaps he can shed some light on this.)

Continuing to drink, I see that successive swigs are almost exactly like
the first one, except that by about the fourth or fifth swig I was able
to control my wincing. Neat.

I suspect this was intended for use as a mixer, but I'm not sure with
what.

Jeremy Impson

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May 13, 2003, 7:51:50 PM5/13/03
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On Tue, 13 May 2003, Jacob W. Haller wrote:

[...]


> Next up on the block is Sanbittèr, the Sanpellegrino taste sensation
> that Jarai posted about once upon a time.

[...]


> I suspect this was intended for use as a mixer, but I'm not sure with
> what.

Try watering it down with Gin.

--Jeremy

--

Jeremy Impson
jdim...@acm.org
http://impson.tzo.com/~jdimpson

David DeLaney

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May 13, 2003, 8:27:21 PM5/13/03
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On Mon, 12 May 2003 02:54:38 GMT, Gregory King <gr...@flyingpawn.com> wrote:
>Tropical Sprite Remix: This is purported to be Sprite with tropical
>flavors. I don't really know what the "Remix" part is supposed to mean.

It means they decided it should be longer, and have a danceable beat to it.

Dave

Daniel Buettner

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May 13, 2003, 8:33:50 PM5/13/03
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Jacob W. Haller <sp...@jwgh.org> wrote:

> There's a sort of Moxie undertone there, a
> statement which will be of use to the .0001% of people worldwide who
> have ever been close enough to Moxie to know what it smells like.

Mmmmm.... Moxie. Well, maybe not "mmmmmm" exactly, but with
enough ice it's kind of good. Sort of.


--
~
~
~
"Daniel Buettner" line 4 of 4 --100%--

talysman

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May 13, 2003, 9:57:52 PM5/13/03
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sp...@jwgh.org (Jacob W. Haller) writes:

[ a taste test of sanbitter! ]

> So, down the hatch. Woah! This has a very strong flavor, of the
> 'making a face and shuddering' variety. Interestingly, your first
> reaction is, 'Wow, bitter!' but then after you actually swallow it the
> aftertaste sets in and you realize that you never really knew what
> bitter meant in the first place. (In terms of picturing it, think of
> eating roasted-almost-to-the-point-of-burning citrus zest, maybe.) And
> yet ... it's something you could get used to and perhaps even come to
> enjoy as a part of your daily routine. (I think Jarai briefly developed
> a Sanbittèr habit, so perhaps he can shed some light on this.)

so, you're saying that it's bitter, despite the name "sanbitter"?
which I suppose means that the "san" part, in this case, is not
from "sans", so it does not mean "NOT BITTER" but "HOLY BITTER!"

> Continuing to drink, I see that successive swigs are almost exactly like
> the first one, except that by about the fourth or fifth swig I was able
> to control my wincing. Neat.

I thought you said "mincing" for a moment, and I thought you were
making up a replacement phrase for "strong enough to put hair on
your chest".


Joseph Michael Bay

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May 15, 2003, 1:32:49 PM5/15/03
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b...@world.std.com (Brian 'Jarai' Chase) writes:


>The one can of Moxie that I had is all the Moxie I'll ever need or
>want. I did actually drink the whole thing, but it took some effort.
>From what I could tell, Moxie is essentially carbonated water mixed
>with some sort of really cheap synthetic clove flavoring, with just
>enough sweetener to keep a desparately thirsty human from vomitting.

Hm. I kind of like Moxie. Somehow it reminds me of the cold
glass bottles of Coke before they made New Coke and Classic Coke,
but with a stronger and thus better flavor.

--
Joseph M. Bay Lamont Sanford Junior University
www.stanford.edu/~jmbay/
i t d o e s n ' t t a k e i m a g i n a t i o n
i t ' s j u s t t h e w a y t h i s s t u f f i s d o n e

Beable van Polasm

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May 15, 2003, 10:40:12 PM5/15/03
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ki...@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) writes:
>
> I don't drink, and I'm really skinny, so it doesn't take much to
> make my brain get all buzzy.

EAT, Kibo! Why won't you EAT SOMETHING?! Why are you trying to KILL
Tamara's mother? EAT! You so SKINNY!

> They sell it at the local drugstore, right next to that revolting
> tamarind-flavored brown drink and the even more revolting V-8

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hey, redhot vindaloo drink in a bottle! That could catch on!

VINDAL OOISNI
CEOOPS IRANOU
TOFWOR DSXXXX

Tamara

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May 16, 2003, 7:54:04 AM5/16/03
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"Beable van Polasm" <beable+...@beable.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:ee7k8rm...@dingo.beable.com...

> ki...@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) writes:
> >
> > I don't drink, and I'm really skinny, so it doesn't take much to
> > make my brain get all buzzy.
>
> EAT, Kibo! Why won't you EAT SOMETHING?! Why are you trying to KILL
> Tamara's mother? EAT! You so SKINNY!

I am a bad person. My mom made some (non-perishable) treats for Kibo the
other month and I have not yet sent them off to him. She, too, thought he
was too skinny. Handsome, but skinny.

Would everybody PLEASE just eat *something* to get her off of our backs??

~T


James Vandenberg

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May 16, 2003, 9:01:00 PM5/16/03
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Tamara <tamara...@sprint.ca> wrote:
> I am a bad person. My mom made some (non-perishable) treats for Kibo the
> other month and I have not yet sent them off to him. She, too, thought he
> was too skinny. Handsome, but skinny.
>
> Would everybody PLEASE just eat *something* to get her off of our backs??

I'm "eating" "something" right nBZZZZZZZT GAAAH!

Ja-the-obvious-bag-is-visciously-attacking-me-mes
--
James Vandenberg Email: james at vandenberg.dropbear.id.au
GPG FP= 65AB 179A D884 EDC6 216D FE6A 6833 02BC 4425 4F70
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. ICQ: 151135390
Beware! Sometimes forks and candles fall from the sky.

Joseph Michael Bay

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May 16, 2003, 9:54:11 PM5/16/03
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Beable van Polasm <beable+...@beable.com.invalid> writes:

>> They sell it at the local drugstore, right next to that revolting
>> tamarind-flavored brown drink and the even more revolting V-8
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Hey, redhot vindaloo drink in a bottle! That could catch on!

>VINDAL OOISNI
>CEOOPS IRANOU
>TOFWOR DSXXXX

THERESNO TAMARIND
VINDALOO BEABLEIS
COMPLETE WANKER!!


--
Joseph M. Bay Lamont Sanford Junior University
www.stanford.edu/~jmbay/

those evil natured robots she's gotta be strong to fight them
they're programmed to destroy us so she's taken lots of vitamins

James Kibo Parry

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May 16, 2003, 11:51:19 PM5/16/03
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Tamara (tamara...@sprint.ca) wrote:
>
> "Beable van Polasm" (beable+...@beable.com.invalid) wrote:
> >
> > James "Kibo" Parry (ki...@world.std.com):

> > >
> > > I don't drink, and I'm really skinny, so it doesn't take much to
> > > make my brain get all buzzy.
> >
> > EAT, Kibo! Why won't you EAT SOMETHING?! Why are you trying to KILL
> > Tamara's mother? EAT! You so SKINNY!
>
> I am a bad person. My mom made some (non-perishable) treats for Kibo the
> other month and I have not yet sent them off to him. She, too, thought he
> was too skinny. Handsome, but skinny.
>
> Would everybody PLEASE just eat *something* to get her off of our backs??

Today I ate three breaded "veal" patties (you know, those oval fried
ones that used to be 10% veal and 90% beef hearts, but now they don't
even contain beef hearts, nowadays they're beige inside) and two tubes
of stupid Hershey's Portable Pudding and oh yeah a bottle of iced tea
and half a tube of Spree (they're the same as SweeTarts except without
the missing letter, and slightly chewy.) But the night's still young.

Lately I've been living off a combination of tacos and chicken nuggets
with sour-cream-based ranch-style sauce for dipping.

And where the hell is that stewed peacock you people promised me?

-- K.

I need to lose more weight,
I'm going to play the lead
role in the Broadway hit
"The Terror Of Tommy Tune."
It'll just be me and a
bunch of wacky midgets.

Tamara

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"James "Kibo" Parry" <ki...@world.std.com> wrote in message
news:kibo-16050...@10.0.1.2...


> I need to lose more weight,
> I'm going to play the lead
> role in the Broadway hit
> "The Terror Of Tommy Tune."
> It'll just be me and a
> bunch of wacky midgets.

Lose any more weight and you will have to marry me. That is a threat.

~T (be afraid. Be VERY afraid.)


Beable van Polasm

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May 17, 2003, 8:29:08 PM5/17/03
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jm...@Stanford.EDU (Joseph Michael Bay) wrote:
>
> Beable van Polasm <beable+...@beable.com.invalid> writes:
>
> >> They sell it at the local drugstore, right next to that revolting
> >> tamarind-flavored brown drink and the even more revolting V-8
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >Hey, redhot vindaloo drink in a bottle! That could catch on!
>
> >VINDAL OOISNI
> >CEOOPS IRANOU
> >TOFWOR DSXXXX
>
> THERESNO TAMARIND
> VINDALOO BEABLEIS
> COMPLETE WANKER!!

Oh my mistake. Now I see where I went wrong. I didn't ask MIGHTY JOE
BAY for the ingredients of Vindaloo before I cooked some and ate it.
Doing some research, I find that these Goolge searches produce ZERO
HITS because Joe Bay knows EVERYTHING:

http://www.goolge.com/search?q=vindaloo+tamarind
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=vindaloo+tamarind
http://www.salsasetc.com/catalog/c-346.html

Science experiment: Get a jar of "Patak's Vindaloo Curry Paste", and
make curry from it. Then get a can of "Patak's Vindaloo Chilli and
Cumin Cooking Sauce", and make some curry.

http://www.pataks.co.uk/products.php?productid=9
http://www.pataks.co.uk/products.php?productid=78

I've done it, and let me assure you, the paste with the tamarind
in it is vastly superior to the sauce with no tamarind.

Recipe for Easy Beef Vindaloo
=============================
Ingredients
-----------
1 Jar Patak's Vindaloo Curry Paste
500 grams of cubed beef
1 brown onion
1 440 gram can of diced tomatoes
chillis if you like things REALLY hot
1 teaspoon oil

Instructions
------------
Chop up onion. Put a teaspoon of oil into large (say about 2.5 litre)
microwave casserole dish. Dump onion in there too, with chopped up
chillis if you want them. Microwave on high for two minutes. Make
sure you have the lid on the dish.

Meanwhile, cube up the beef. When microwave goes "DING!", put the
beef in the dish with the onions, and microwave on high for five
minutes.

Add the jar of Vindaloo paste to the beef and onions, and stir it
up. You want to get the meat coated with the paste. Microwave on
high for two minutes.

Add the can of tomatoes and stir in. Add some water if necessary
so that it has a smooth level surface, because you want the whole
thing to be quite liquid. Don't fill the dish all the way up, or
it will overflow and make a mess.

Microwave on high for five minutes. This will make it boil a bit,
and that's when it's likely to overflow. But don't worry, microwave
ovens are easy to clean.

Start cooking some rice. If you have an automatic rice cooker,
that's the best way to do it because it means less work for you.
Otherwise, do it the hard way.

Microwave on half power for twenty minutes. If you really feel like
doing extra work, you could stop it after ten minutes and stir it, but
that time would probably be better spent cracking a tube and watching
footy on the TeeVee. You don't really need to stir it because you
added water to it, and the can of tomatoes had a lot of liquid in it
too. So be lazy. Why not?

When the microwave goes "DING!", the curry is ready, and the rice
should be ready too. Especially if you have an automatic rice cooker.
Grab a plate, scoop some rice onto it (turn off the rice cooker now so
that the remaining rice will cool down). Carefully get the curry out
of the microwave, because it's hot in two ways and you don't want to
spill it. Now is when you need to stir it. Stir that red oily stuff on
top right into it until it all turns brown again. Put some curry on
top of the rice, crack a tube, watch the rest of the footy, and
congratulate yourself for your brilliance in producing a delicious
meal with very little work.

When you've finished eating, go back to the kitchen, remove the
microwave oven's spinny platter, and wipe it clean with a paper
towel. It'll probably have a bit of bright orange hot oily stuff
on it. Put the entire remaining curry in the casserole dish
straight in the fridge when it cools down enough. It'll taste
even better tomorrow. Put the remaining rice in a plastic container
and stick it in the fridge too.

Next day, put some rice in a microwave container with some curry on
top, microwave it on high for six minutes, and marvel at how you
now have another delicious meal with even less work! Keep this up
until you run out of curry, then cook some more!

You can replace beef with chicken, or vegetables, kangaroo, crocodile,
or animal 57 if you want. You can also add extra vegetables.

And if Joe Bay tells you that Vindaloo doesn't have tamarind in it,
you can laugh at his puny curry knowledge.

HAW HAW! JOE BAY HAS PUNY CURRY KNOWLEDGE!


--
I call foul. This should have had 'Patrick Stewart', not 'Jon
Stewart'. What kind of a troll are you? -- Jacob Haller
http://beable.com

Kevin S. Wilson

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May 19, 2003, 1:58:44 PM5/19/03
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On 18 May 2003 10:29:08 +1000, Beable van Polasm
<beable+...@beable.com.invalid> wrote:

>Recipe for Easy Beef Vindaloo
>=============================
>Ingredients
>-----------
>1 Jar Patak's Vindaloo Curry Paste
>500 grams of cubed beef

And then . . .


>Meanwhile, cube up the beef.

Make up your cubed mind, Hammond. Is the beef already cubed or not?

>When you've finished eating, go back to the kitchen, remove the
>microwave oven's spinny platter, and wipe it clean with a paper
>towel.

Did I dream this, or is there really a product on the market that
consists of a little package of cleanser that you put in the
microwave, where it explodes frothy cleaning goodness all over the
inside of the microwave? I swear I saw it on TV or something, but
google hasn't heard of it.

Glenn Knickerbocker

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May 19, 2003, 5:33:25 PM5/19/03
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"Kevin S. Wilson" wrote:

> <beable+...@beable.com.invalid> wrote:
> >500 grams of cubed beef
> And then . . .
> >Meanwhile, cube up the beef.
> Make up your cubed mind, Hammond. Is the beef already cubed or not?

Would it be worth the risk of personal injury to suggest that "cubed"
might mean "tenderized" while "cube" means "dice"?

I thought not.

ŹR

Kevin S. Wilson

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May 19, 2003, 6:07:47 PM5/19/03
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Do you mean tenderized with one of those meat-smacking hammers with
the pointy points on the face? My mom used to beat meat with one of
those. I never needed one until I tried making farsumagru, an Italian
meat roll made with a thin flank steak.

Mmmm . . . flanky.

>I thought not.

Clealy, sir, you did not.

Shouldn't you be FNARRing that first paragraph?

Glenn Knickerbocker

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May 20, 2003, 10:58:01 AM5/20/03
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"Kevin S. Wilson" wrote:

> <No...@bestweb.net> wrote:
> >Would it be worth the risk of personal injury to suggest that "cubed"
> >might mean "tenderized" while "cube" means "dice"?
> Do you mean tenderized with one of those meat-smacking hammers

Perhaps, in the sense in which someone might say he means rolling on
wheels when those wheels are in actuality RAZOR BLADE TYRES.

> Shouldn't you be FNARRing that first paragraph?

Only if you had said something about chicken tenderloins.

¬(I've hardly met)R

Teck

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May 22, 2003, 12:31:35 PM5/22/03
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On Tue, 20 May 2003 10:58:01 -0400, Glenn Knickerbocker
<No...@bestweb.net> wrote:

>"Kevin S. Wilson" wrote:
>> <No...@bestweb.net> wrote:
>> >Would it be worth the risk of personal injury to suggest that "cubed"
>> >might mean "tenderized" while "cube" means "dice"?
>> Do you mean tenderized with one of those meat-smacking hammers
>
>Perhaps, in the sense in which someone might say he means rolling on
>wheels when those wheels are in actuality RAZOR BLADE TYRES.

Attention everyone! Razor blade tires debunked! Get this kook off
UNsenet!

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/05/20/DD281056.DTL

''The circular saw on Don Hurter's hybrid vehicle was supposed to act
as the fourth wheel, but it didn't get enough traction. Racing his
entry, which he called Emergency Donut Delivery, earlier this month at
the second annual Power Tool Drag Races, Hurter was obliged to modify
his contraption mid-event. ''


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