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Adam Brown

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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Hi just wondering if someone could recommend a quality isp. I usually
shovel around 100-150 meg of stuff a month and am on-line during working
hours. I want a reliable, fast connection at reasonable (not necessarily
cheap) cost.

Currently with EISA and they're crappy. I've used Zip and they were
pretty lame too. These two have put me off cheap and nasty ISPs and the
false economy that comes with them. Ozemail were OK and are an option
but the two-hour kick-off for the unlimited account is annoying.

I am looking at Lexicon, ains.net, ozemail and blue-planet. Anyone have
any comments on these providers, or any others they might recommend?

cheers,

Ad


Al Mackie

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 18:18:04 +1100, Adam Brown
<ad...@freestream.com.au> wrote:

<snip>

>Ozemail were OK and are an option
>but the two-hour kick-off for the unlimited account is annoying.

I think it is a 6 hour kick off now.

Al

Duncan

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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What is bad about eisa, i was cosidering joining them, do they get a high
amount of engaged signals?? are the speeds slow. I currently get on average
about 43000 with netspace, but i need more time without a download limit.
Duncan

Adam Brown wrote:

> Hi just wondering if someone could recommend a quality isp. I usually
> shovel around 100-150 meg of stuff a month and am on-line during working
> hours. I want a reliable, fast connection at reasonable (not necessarily
> cheap) cost.
>
> Currently with EISA and they're crappy. I've used Zip and they were
> pretty lame too. These two have put me off cheap and nasty ISPs and the

> false economy that comes with them. Ozemail were OK and are an option


> but the two-hour kick-off for the unlimited account is annoying.
>

Arran

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 18:18:04 +1100, Adam Brown
<ad...@freestream.com.au> wrote:

>Hi just wondering if someone could recommend a quality isp. I usually
>shovel around 100-150 meg of stuff a month and am on-line during working
>hours. I want a reliable, fast connection at reasonable (not necessarily
>cheap) cost.
>
>Currently with EISA and they're crappy. I've used Zip and they were
>pretty lame too. These two have put me off cheap and nasty ISPs and the
>false economy that comes with them. Ozemail were OK and are an option
>but the two-hour kick-off for the unlimited account is annoying.
>
>I am looking at Lexicon, ains.net, ozemail and blue-planet. Anyone have
>any comments on these providers, or any others they might recommend?
>
>cheers,
>
>Ad


try primus
http://www.primus.com.au
$30/month 200 megs

Stew

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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Hmm well this is interesting, Cos Primus and Hotkey are one of the same, eg
Primus Hotkey.

If you go to www.hotkey.net.au you will see the Primus logo adorning the
site, yet the Hotkey variant only allow 100 Megs download per month at
$39.00 per month!!!

What I am interested to know is, why do ISP's on the east coast seem to take
the luxery of charges, or applying download limits, when in WA nearly all
accounts are unlimited everything?

I download a lot, and it costs me a lot of money, I am seriously looking
into either A: Setting up my own ISP or B: Getting a cable/sat connection,
something which at the moment is not available in Geelong as far as I am
aware.

Cheers;
Stew

Michael Malone

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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Stew wrote:
> I download a lot, and it costs me a lot of money, I am seriously looking
> into either A: Setting up my own ISP or B: Getting a cable/sat connection,

You should set up as your own ISP. The one thing Australia
really needs is some top quality ISP's who will offer low
prices.

What I want is 24x7 access, no download limits, no time
limits, 56K every time, 300ms pings to the US and minimum
download speeds of 7K per second. And I'd pay up to $20
per month for it too.

Let me know when you've set up.

MM


Goo

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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In article <36C9F868...@freestream.com.au>,
Adam Brown <ad...@freestream.com.au> wrote:
>I've heard from a mate in the UK that providers over there are heading towards
>zero fee internet access, they make their money by bombing you with advertising
>material.

Not sure about the advertising bit, but these 'free' ISPs make their $$
back through the local call charges. Local calls are timed in the UK.

>If that's the case why not charge a little extra and provide a little extra
>quality, or has the word 'quality' been struck from the Australian language by
>people trying to make a quick profit.

How much is 'a little extra'? There are already companies that offer
'premium' internet access for comparatively high hourly rates, eg OzEmail.
They also have an all you can eat plan, but AFAIK customers on this plan
don't experience the same level of service as those on the hourly plan.

So how much are you willing to pay, and for what service? Can you define
QoS in objective terms?

cheers,
goo

Stew

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Feb 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/17/99
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Michael;

Okay 24 hour 7day a week dial-up - NO PROBS

56K Every Time - You send me 25,000 for a digital router and we
are in business

Download Speeds - How many DDS links and Sats were you
putting in for me again?

And $20 Pm - No probs, after you paid for all the above thats
about all you will have left anyway :-)

Thanks mate your a dream come true, now what was your credit
card number again?

Stew

Jason Haines

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Feb 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/17/99
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In article <7absel$vjd$1...@news.iinet.net.au>, mma...@creole.iinet.net.au
(Michael Malone) wrote:

>Stew wrote:
>> I download a lot, and it costs me a lot of money, I am seriously looking
>> into either A: Setting up my own ISP or B: Getting a cable/sat connection,
>
>You should set up as your own ISP. The one thing Australia
>really needs is some top quality ISP's who will offer low
>prices.
>

>What I want is 24x7 access, no download limits, no time
>limits, 56K every time, 300ms pings to the US and minimum
>download speeds of 7K per second. And I'd pay up to $20
>per month for it too.
>
>Let me know when you've set up.

Me too! ROFL

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Adam Brown

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Feb 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/17/99
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Interestingly, I've used nearly 10 different providers in Australia and New
Zealand over the years. I was stunned to find that when I returned here from
Christchurch that one of our supposedly best providers: Ozemail provided only
the same quality of service as what was labelled the cheapest and nastiest
provider in NZ: Ihug.

They figured Ihug was nasty because sometimes you had to wait up to a minute to
get access (local calls are free in ChCh, there would be dozens of postings to
nz.comp if someone had to wait more than a few minutes). I used one of their
better providers called Voyager which was aimed at the business market and the
service was impeccable, no log in wait ever, full bandwidth 100% of the time, no
exceptions but it was way pricey by their standards: 2.00 per hour...what do
BigPond charge again?.
To top it off, unlimited access with Ihug NZ was exactly that, it was basically
a permanent connection.

I've heard from a mate in the UK that providers over there are heading towards
zero fee internet access, they make their money by bombing you with advertising
material.

I realise that the evironment in Aus is a little different. This may be due to
extortive rates from Telstra for bandwidth (if you think it's bad now, wait till
they sell it off to the yanks).

If that's the case why not charge a little extra and provide a little extra
quality, or has the word 'quality' been struck from the Australian language by
people trying to make a quick profit.

Stew wrote:

> Hmm well this is interesting, Cos Primus and Hotkey are one of the same, eg
> Primus Hotkey.
>
> If you go to www.hotkey.net.au you will see the Primus logo adorning the
> site, yet the Hotkey variant only allow 100 Megs download per month at
> $39.00 per month!!!
>
> What I am interested to know is, why do ISP's on the east coast seem to take
> the luxery of charges, or applying download limits, when in WA nearly all
> accounts are unlimited everything?
>

> I download a lot, and it costs me a lot of money, I am seriously looking
> into either A: Setting up my own ISP or B: Getting a cable/sat connection,

Arran

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Feb 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/17/99
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On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:01:08 +1100, "Stew" <vkz...@geocities.com>
wrote:

>Hmm well this is interesting, Cos Primus and Hotkey are one of the same, eg
>Primus Hotkey.
>
>If you go to www.hotkey.net.au you will see the Primus logo adorning the
>site, yet the Hotkey variant only allow 100 Megs download per month at
>$39.00 per month!!!
>
>What I am interested to know is, why do ISP's on the east coast seem to take
>the luxery of charges, or applying download limits, when in WA nearly all
>accounts are unlimited everything?
>
>I download a lot, and it costs me a lot of money, I am seriously looking
>into either A: Setting up my own ISP or B: Getting a cable/sat connection,
>something which at the moment is not available in Geelong as far as I am
>aware.
>
>Cheers;
>Stew
>
>>try primus
>>http://www.primus.com.au
>>$30/month 200 megs
>

In Sydney and Brisbane alot have no download limits either...
Adelaide is probably the most rip off place..

Jason Haines

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Feb 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/17/99
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In article <36C91BAC...@freestream.com.au>, Adam Brown
<ad...@freestream.com.au> wrote:

>Hi just wondering if someone could recommend a quality isp. I usually
>shovel around 100-150 meg of stuff a month and am on-line during working
>hours. I want a reliable, fast connection at reasonable (not necessarily
>cheap) cost.
>
>Currently with EISA and they're crappy. I've used Zip and they were
>pretty lame too. These two have put me off cheap and nasty ISPs and the
>false economy that comes with them. Ozemail were OK and are an option
>but the two-hour kick-off for the unlimited account is annoying.
>
>I am looking at Lexicon, ains.net, ozemail and blue-planet. Anyone have
>any comments on these providers, or any others they might recommend?

Checkout IHUG - $29.95/month for unlimited time/data.

http://www.ihug.com.au/

Webmaster

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Feb 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/18/99
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Adam Brown wrote in message <36C9F868...@freestream.com.au>...

>Interestingly, I've used nearly 10 different providers in Australia and New
>Zealand over the years. I was stunned to find that when I returned here
from
>Christchurch that one of our supposedly best providers: Ozemail provided
only
>the same quality of service as what was labelled the cheapest and nastiest
>provider in NZ: Ihug.


<snip>

I can't resist....They are very cheap and nasty here too Adam.

(This is not directed at YOU Haines, it is based on what our users have
shared with us, so try to keep your abuse to a minumum) :)

Gary Meadows
EDIT Group
www.editgroup.aunz.com

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