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Ray Gordon

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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They are. It's sad, but true. Unless the truth is a fairy tale, they
hide it and justify that under the guise of sparing a man's feelings.

They are so obsessed with their lying that they get very angry when
caught, and go out of their way to convince you that they aren't a liar
(denial), but the truth is that they are.

A man who thinks a woman is honest when it comes to love is a FOOL.

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Claude-Alain Brot

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Aug 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/27/98
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I'm a fool. I like women even when they lie.
CAB


kitk...@hotmail.com

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Aug 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/27/98
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I am sorry you feel this way about half of the world's population. Women who
are not in love also lie, as do men. It is just a sad thing that people do
lie on a daily basis, whether it be a white lie (such as you are implying we
women do - to "spare a man's feelings") or an out and out LIE.

I wonder where your passion for this topic is coming from because if you ask
someone in a normal relationship...hell, a normal LIFE - you will discover
that they don't believe they're being lied to. Yes of course, out there in
the vast millions of friggin people that live here, there are the liars.
There are also wife beaters, prostitutes, cheerleaders, nerds...etc. My
point is that you are sterotyping "women in love" based on some experience
you seem to have had with a lying woman whom you loved. Maybe I'm wrong,
maybe you just really believe this with no experience at all, but that would
be a sad thing. It would also be a sad thing to look at a woman obviously in
complete and total love with a man and say - "she's a liar." It would also
be a sad thing to never trust again. Your soul needs to trust or it will
wither.

I know and understand the need to lump people together because it makes it
easier to get through, but it also shuts off the other 99 percent of people in
that group that are not the way this 1 percent was.

I am not trying to make you feel bad for your opinion, because it is just
that, YOUR opinion...however I'm hoping you'll open up your mind just a
little bit more to the fact that there are people ...women... out there, who
don't lie... whether in love or life. Don't believe that all people are the
same just because of one rotten apple. Also don't turn it into a gender
thing - it would be just as bad as the women out there who say "All men are
scum sucking pigs" I don't think that's true. I tend to agree only when my
husband irritates me, but it's not a fair assessment on the other men out
there at that point in time.

And besides - Wilbur was a pig and he was really cute.

~kori

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je...@exoticomm.com

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Aug 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/27/98
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They are. It's sad, but true. Unless the truth is a fairy tale, they
hide it and justify that under the guise of sparing a man's feelings.

*ok then why are men liars? you have men on this very NG saying you
should
*stay married if you don't you break your wedding vowls but at the same
*time not two post letter complain that the Prz. wife should have
*devorced long ago how can some preach both cases? or here is another
*from this very NG you have a man saying he usealy knows if the women
*he is dateing is what he wants and that after short he sees this but
then
*goes on dateing her with out leting her know that she isn't what he
want?
*but at the same time this same person say he will not date anyone that
*dated jerks befor finding that it is now time to date nice guys as if
*he is say he should be consdered as a nice guy ..even after he so
loudly
* said he wasn't just by the fact he put himself into the jerks shoes
the
*sec he found the women not what he wanted and then still didn't tell
her there
*fore to keep dateing her but yet this same type of guy blame in on the
*women like she was to read his mind and since she didn't it's her
fault?

They are so obsessed with their lying that they get very angry when
caught, and go out of their way to convince you that they aren't a liar
(denial), but the truth is that they are.

*laugh I know a few men on this very BG that do the same thing
*lets see let me put it this way

SNip;;;;;;
<-----------Of course they are. I'm not the one who was the aggressor
though. Wherever I post I have started out very civil and wound up
under attack for saying things which people do not want to hear.
::::::::::Sniped
*Oh your post right here isn't considered a aggressor post??

Snip::::::::
"><----Oh I call women Cunts and stuff all the time".
">I do it as a form of protest against illegal behavior by women
">which adversely affects me and society."
Sniped;;;;;;;;;;

*this is the reasion for the so many attacks on you but yet you
*do not see this as a aggressor post? you do know that protester are
*considered the aggressors right ? Most protester see them self as
*being very civil just befor the guns are fired and people are killed
*oh wait you may not want to here that thought right ?
*rember useing your very own words here "I'm attack for saying things
*which people do not want to hear."
SNip:::::::::

<----Hahahahaha. Now until you can help the men who post here get laid,
they aren't really going to listen to you very much.
;;;;;;;;;Sniped

*Oh and your helping them get liad by telling them to be meen to
*the coworker? the one that he may have a better chance of funking?
*oh wait thats right it's only the pretty women that realy counts.
*Yet you sit in here and complain about these same pretty women
*funking to get to the top and at the same time you help the guy .
*to funk them ? and then complain your agenst this sort of thing .
*You are a very confuseing man ..preach one thing then dribble
*another.If and when you write this book I would truly like to
*read it ..it may give some interesting insights to some things
*I find a little confuseing at this time.
*and rember your the same who posted
SNip:::::::
<----Of course they exist. Although Bill Clinton's secretary, Betty
Curry, is a middle-aged black woman who is not that pretty (sorry
Betty).
But if you want something revealing, there is a tape of Lyndon Johnson,
who signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, demanding secretaries who
weren't "old maids." I couldn't believe that one. And this is the
party
that champions women's rights? Get real. Do people really think Monica
Lewinsky is a better secretary than me? Get real again....offices are
littered with women like this, who just use corporate sugar-daddies
instead of dating ones. By the way, I know there are women who don't
fit
this mold, but way too many do.
Sniped;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
*here we have two post of yours alone one stating your helping men get
laid
*and the other where your comeplaining about men whom have laid there
*secretarys have you made up your mind yet? ;) do you want them to get
*Laid or what?

A man who thinks a woman is honest when it comes to love is a FOOL.

*A woman who thinks a man is honest when it comes to love is a FOOL.
*see this can be taking many ways but best put is that people are liares
*all the time we are not saints ..... sorry
Jekyl


Ray Gordon

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Aug 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/27/98
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Some Chick Writes:

I am sorry you feel this way about half of the world's population.

<----I'm sorry women gave me reason to feel this way.


Women who are not in love also lie, as do men.

<----This man doesn't lie. Women tend to believe fairy tales men spin
because they WANT to believe them. Women also practically require men to
lie to keep a relationship intact, the way you sometimes have to lie to
your boss to keep your job. I chose honesty even though it's more
difficult. Let women take responsibility for their dishonesty instead of
focusing on my logical reaction to it.


It is just a sad thing that people do lie on a daily basis, whether it be
a white lie (such as you are implying we women do - to "spare a man's
feelings") or an out and out LIE.

<------Not all people do. But with women, you should assume they are
dishonest until they prove themselves. And saying "I'm honest" doesn't
prove a thing.


I wonder where your passion for this topic is coming from because if you
ask
someone in a normal relationship...hell, a normal LIFE - you will
discover
that they don't believe they're being lied to. Yes of course, out there
in
the vast millions of friggin people that live here, there are the liars.
There are also wife beaters, prostitutes, cheerleaders, nerds...etc. My
point is that you are sterotyping "women in love" based on some
experience
you seem to have had with a lying woman whom you loved.

<----No, I base it on 15 years of research and over 10,000 interviews.
Sorry to burst your bubble. My sample is five times larger than what
they use to predict presidential elections. People who aren't selfish
tend to study everyone's experience rather than just their own.


Maybe I'm wrong, maybe you just really believe this with no experience at
all, but that would be a sad thing. It would also be a sad thing to look
at a woman obviously in
complete and total love with a man and say - "she's a liar." It would
also
be a sad thing to never trust again. Your soul needs to trust or it will
wither.

<---I said women lie when it comes to love, not because they are in love.
And my soul needs to avoid liars, and the only way to do that is to take
universal precautions.


I know and understand the need to lump people together because it makes
it
easier to get through, but it also shuts off the other 99 percent of
people in
that group that are not the way this 1 percent was.

<-----------It's not 1 percent who lie. It's 95-99 percent, and the more
attractive they are, the more dishonest. Women can't seem to help
themselves. I catch them in lies all the time.

I am not trying to make you feel bad for your opinion, because it is just
that, YOUR opinion...however I'm hoping you'll open up your mind just a
little bit more to the fact that there are people ...women... out there,
who
don't lie... whether in love or life.

<------And those people won't mind having their statements checked for
truth.


Don't believe that all people are the same just because of one rotten
apple.

<-----Don't assume that I draw conclusions using a sample of one.

Also don't turn it into a gender thing - it would be just as bad as the
women out there who say "All men are scum sucking pigs" I don't think
that's true. I tend to agree only when my husband irritates me, but it's
not a fair assessment on the other men out
there at that point in time.

<------Can I audit your marriage? Bet I could break it up in two weeks.

je...@exoticomm.com

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Aug 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/28/98
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Also don't turn it into a gender thing - it would be just as bad as the
women out there who say "All men are scum sucking pigs" I don't think
that's true. I tend to agree only when my husband irritates me, but
it's
not a fair assessment on the other men out
there at that point in time.

<------Can I audit your marriage? Bet I could break it up in two weeks.

*wouldn't suprise me if she said ya give it a shot if you can ....
*How is your research comeing along...surely you know that not only
*women lie right? that men lie too ? and if you do not lie then
*that shows just maybe there is at lest one women that doesn't lie <no
*not calling you a women just say if there is one men then the is one
*women>......saying all women lie is the same as saying all men lie..
*to have faults is to be human and hey I am human ...
jekyl


Courageous

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Aug 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/28/98
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> <----Women also practically require men to

> lie to keep a relationship intact

This is true.



> <------Not all people do. But with women, you should assume they are
> dishonest until they prove themselves.

Dishonest about what?

> <----No, I base it on 15 years of research and over 10,000 interviews.
> Sorry to burst your bubble. My sample is five times larger than what
> they use to predict presidential elections. People who aren't selfish
> tend to study everyone's experience rather than just their own.

What did your research prove that women lie about?

> <---I said women lie when it comes to love, not because they are in love.

What do they lie about?

> <-----------It's not 1 percent who lie. It's 95-99 percent, and the more
> attractive they are, the more dishonest. Women can't seem to help
> themselves. I catch them in lies all the time.

About what?


C.

Ray Gordon

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Aug 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/28/98
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Some Chick Writes:

Thanks for your "honest" feedback. That you would intentionally set out
to break up people's marriages for your own research and "fun" is sick
and beyond anyone's "need to know."

<-----I don't set out to break up people's marriages. But when a woman
talks about what a PERFECT man she is married to, and I know he's
cheating on her, she gets what she deserves.

You want honesty? I think that you are right when you say men lie to
keep relationships because of a woman's expectations. But you are wrong
if you think it is a woman's FAULT that a man lies.

<-------Women put men in a position where they HAVE to lie to keep the
woman happy. That's all I said. If women want honesty they will have to
start rewarding it with sex.


You also proved yourself wrong when you said a man lies in love as well.
You only
continued to say that it's a woman's fault, but your first statement was
that men lie.

<-----Actually it's no one's "fault" really because anyone who wanted to
prevent being lied to could just simply not trust people.


And no, beautiful women don't lie more because they're beautiful.

<----Yes they do because they are put in awkward positions more often.

People of any shape, color, size or gender, if they feel the need to be
false, will be false.

<----Or if they feel the need to spare someone's feelings, or avoid being
persisted, etc. Beautiful women are in this position more often.

You cannot audit my marriage. I am not an IRS tax form, nor is my
husband.

<-----Okay, so that means any claim you make about your marriage cannot
be verified here and is therefore worthless.

I will be honest with one more thing. I just don't like you and I know
my husband would not waste his time with you.

<----You speak like he's a better man than me. That's a very arrogant
statement. Then again, I know many women who worship men who are apes
compared to me intellectually. That's the woman's poor judgement and no
indicator of my worth as a human.

I like being selfish and basing my feelings one person. That one person
is the one I know best and that is myself. I believe it's more selfish
of you to stick your
face into someone else's business and deliberately try to break up their
relationship.

<----Of course, if a man is cheating on his wife, it's my fault for
telling the wife. In fact, when I have known a man is cheating on his
girlfriend, I have even asked her out right in front of him.


If a man or woman want to believe that their partners lies are the truth
that is their business, not yours.

<----It becomes my business when they parade their union around as a
perfect one and try to shove that lie down my throat. If they don't want
it becoming my business, they should keep their mouths shut.

That is where trust in a relationship comes in. Perhaps you should do a
study on
that.

<----I have. Most people abuse trust. Those who trust are very likely
to get burned. I don't believe in trust. I believe in truth.

Anyway, this message is over. You're not worth any more energy. Trust
me.

<----Like I care what you think...

kitk...@hotmail.com

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Aug 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/29/98
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Kitkatt22 wrote:
> You cannot audit my marriage. I am not an IRS tax form, nor is my
> husband.

The Stupid Retard named Ray Gordon wrote:
> <-----Okay, so that means any claim you make about your marriage cannot
> be verified here and is therefore worthless.

>>>Tell you what - you're the only thing that's worthless. You're a waste
of space, air and bandwidth.


Kitkatt22 wrote:
> I will be honest with one more thing. I just don't like you and I know
> my husband would not waste his time with you.

The Stupid Retard named Ray Gordon wrote:
> <----You speak like he's a better man than me. That's a very arrogant
> statement. Then again, I know many women who worship men who are apes
> compared to me intellectually. That's the woman's poor judgement and no
> indicator of my worth as a human.
>

>>>You're damn right my husband is a better man than you. You aren't a human
being, you have a cold space where there should be a heart, and an even
emptier cold space where there should be a brain. You are a worthless
nothing.


By the way, heard you have some mental problems...poor baby. You ought
to have that studied. Too bad all the women in your life have let you
down. It's not very hard to see why though. You should have yourself
xrayed - something is blocking the oxygen flow to your brain.

Ray Gordon

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Aug 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/29/98
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Some Chick Writes:

> You cannot audit my marriage. I am not an IRS tax form, nor is my
> husband.
The Stupid Retard named Ray Gordon wrote:
> <-----Okay, so that means any claim you make about your marriage cannot
> be verified here and is therefore worthless.

>>>Tell you what - you're the only thing that's worthless. You're a
waste
of space, air and bandwidth.

<----Your opinion is duly noted. Fortunately, there are over 100 million
people connected to the internet. If you don't like what you read,
change the channel.


Kitkatt22 wrote:
> I will be honest with one more thing. I just don't like you and I know
> my husband would not waste his time with you.
The Stupid Retard named Ray Gordon wrote:
> <----You speak like he's a better man than me. That's a very arrogant
> statement. Then again, I know many women who worship men who are apes
> compared to me intellectually. That's the woman's poor judgement and
no
> indicator of my worth as a human.
>

>>>You're damn right my husband is a better man than you. You aren't a
human
being, you have a cold space where there should be a heart, and an even
emptier cold space where there should be a brain. You are a worthless
nothing.

<----He's BETTER than me? Really? By what measure? That he gives you
money? Get real.....my "cold space" is a reaction to women who don't
deserve my trust anymore. The ones who do have it, but they are few in
number. Or is life a harem contest now? I'd love to introduce your
husband to some of the women I "cannot get." He'd turn them down, of
course, because he's not like the hundreds of other men who BEG for their
company....


By the way, heard you have some mental problems...poor baby. You ought to
have that studied.

<---Really? What did you hear? From who, and when? Did you check out
the source or the facts, or do you just regurgitate gossip? Please
elaborate on what you heard and/or list your psychiatric credentials.

Too bad all the women in your life have let you down. It's not very hard
to see why though.

<----So let's see here: you make a statement as if it were a fact with no
way of proving it, and then you imply that some men deserve the treatment
you presume I have received? I suppose your not having your facts
straight wouldn't impact your veracity a bit, would it?


You should have yourself xrayed - something is blocking the oxygen flow
to your brain.

<----If I'm so horrible, why bother responding to my posts? By the way,
could you please give your advice to men who want to have no-strings sex
with beautiful women? Come on, you can do it...

Citizens For Censorship

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Aug 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/30/98
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Some Guy Writes:

> By the way, heard you have some mental problems...poor baby. You ought

> to have that studied. Too bad all the women in your life have let you
> down. It's not very hard to see why though. You should have yourself


> xrayed - something is blocking the oxygen flow to your brain.

Hmmm. Curious how this woman cannot maintain a flow of logic in her
argument. It is simply that if you disagree, you are not a human and
dumb anyway. Sure...

<--------From the movie "As Good As It Gets":

She: "How do you write women so well?"

He: "When I write a woman, I think of a man, and I take away reason and
accountability."

t...@delphi.com

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Aug 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/31/98
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<kitk...@hotmail.com> writes:

>>>>Tell you what - you're the only thing that's worthless. You're a waste
>of space, air and bandwidth.


Try adding content to the discussion next time.




>>>>You're damn right my husband is a better man than you. You aren't a human
>being, you have a cold space where there should be a heart, and an even
>emptier cold space where there should be a brain. You are a worthless
>nothing.


"I disagree with you, but your arguments are unassailable, so I'm going to
personally insult you. So there! "

Typical female response to logic.




>By the way, heard you have some mental problems...poor baby. You ought
>to have that studied. Too bad all the women in your life have let you
>down. It's not very hard to see why though. You should have yourself
>xrayed - something is blocking the oxygen flow to your brain.


At least he has one; the same can't be said for you, dearie.

Sorry, couldn't resist that one :-)



DB

t...@delphi.com

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Aug 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/31/98
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Some Dude <Jus...@somewhere.com> writes:

>Hmmm. Curious how this woman cannot maintain a flow of logic in her
>argument. It is simply that if you disagree, you are not a human and
>dumb anyway. Sure...


Of course. Everyone knows that Women Are Always Right (tm).



DB

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