The T-Bone Shuffle
Tom Senor
times fast)....
The other night I had a brainstorm: play five CDs produced by T-Bone
Burnett. I'm happy to report that the following makes for a great mix:
T-Bone Burnett: The Criminal Under my Own Hat
Sam Phillips: Bikinis and Martinis
Bruce Cockburn: Nothing but a Blinding Light
Counting Crows: August and Everything after
Elvis Costello: King of America
And I can't resist saying that the last CD on that list is an absolute gem
(not that the others aren't great too). The songwriting is as consistently
good on this CD as any I've ever heard. And the music mostly acoustic
instruments so the vocals can be heard very clearly. Of course, Elvis
isn't a believer (as far as I know) and to a degree that is reflected in
the lyrics, but anyone who likes Bruce Cockburn's or Bill Mallonee's gift
for apt (and frank) descriptions of the human condition will not be
disappointed.
While we are on the subject of T-Bone produced albums, besides the artists
mentioned above, what has he produced?
--
Tom Senor
University of Arkansas
se...@comp.uark.edu
Opinions expressed are entirely my own and do not represent those of the
UA.
Robert Davis
>
>The other night I had a brainstorm: play five CDs produced by T-Bone
>Burnett. I'm happy to report that the following makes for a great mix:
>
>T-Bone Burnett: The Criminal Under my Own Hat
>Sam Phillips: Bikinis and Martinis
>Bruce Cockburn: Nothing but a Blinding Light
>Counting Crows: August and Everything after
>Elvis Costello: King of America
>
>And I can't resist saying that the last CD on that list is an absolute gem
>(not that the others aren't great too). The songwriting is as consistently
>good on this CD as any I've ever heard. And the music mostly acoustic
>instruments so the vocals can be heard very clearly. Of course, Elvis
>isn't a believer (as far as I know) and to a degree that is reflected in
>the lyrics, but anyone who likes Bruce Cockburn's or Bill Mallonee's gift
>for apt (and frank) descriptions of the human condition will not be
>disappointed.
>
I think he's one of the best lyricists around, and like some of my
other faves, he does not seem to be getting complacent or formulaic as
he gets older -- he still tries new things, even at the risk of
alienating fans. There was an interview with T Bone in Rolling Stone
around the time of Talking Animals and Spike, and in it he talked
about how ironic it was that he would be working with someone so
cynical as Elvis Costello, but he said he thought they had a lot in
common. (I think I'm going to go the library to find that article
again.)
>
>While we are on the subject of T-Bone produced albums, besides the artists
>mentioned above, what has he produced?
>
Well, you probably know these, Tom, but there's Tonio K. (producer of
"You Will Go Free" from Romeo Unchained and "executive producer" of
both What? albums, and I think he produced Tonio's latest, unreleased
album), Peter Case's debut eponymous album, a couple of albums for
acoustic guitarist Leo Kottke, some albums by Los Lobos (a band I'm
still planning to delve into before the year's end), Roy Orbison (a
song or two from Mystery Girl and the live Black and White Night that
featured Elvis Costello, Bruce Springsteen, Tom Waits, and
himself).... Hmm what else? You really can't go wrong with anything
he's produced.
If we start listing albums that have his name somwhere in the liner
notes, we'll be here all day -- everything from Mark Heard to U2.
Rob
--
Robert Davis (dav...@netcom.com) "Look up, Hannah."
John Adgate
>While we are on the subject of T-Bone produced albums, besides the artists
>mentioned above, what has he produced?
>--
A more appropriate question is what hasn't he produced, i suppose, but my
knowledge is not encyclopedic. One gem that he co-produced and co-wrote
2 of the tunes is Los Lobos' "How will the Wolf Survive," now 10
years old (something i find hard to believe, but since the music is on
one of those black things with a hole in the middle it must be true).
There's piles more stuff he's produced, it's just that I can't remember any
more right now...(where's Whitman when we need him?).....
>Tom Senor
>University of Arkansas
>se...@comp.uark.edu
>Opinions expressed are entirely my own and do not represent those of the
>UA.
Andy Whitman
Robert Davis <dav...@netcom.com> wrote:
>Tom Senor <se...@comp.uark.edu> wrote:
>>
>>The other night I had a brainstorm: play five CDs produced by T-Bone
>>Burnett. I'm happy to report that the following makes for a great mix:
>>
>>T-Bone Burnett: The Criminal Under my Own Hat
>>Sam Phillips: Bikinis and Martinis
>>Bruce Cockburn: Nothing but a Blinding Light
>>Counting Crows: August and Everything after
>>Elvis Costello: King of America
>>
>>And I can't resist saying that the last CD on that list is an absolute gem
>>(not that the others aren't great too). The songwriting is as consistently
>>good on this CD as any I've ever heard. And the music mostly acoustic
>>instruments so the vocals can be heard very clearly. Of course, Elvis
>>isn't a believer (as far as I know) and to a degree that is reflected in
>>the lyrics, but anyone who likes Bruce Cockburn's or Bill Mallonee's gift
>>for apt (and frank) descriptions of the human condition will not be
>>disappointed.
Steve Taylor, Tom. :-) Actually, Steve and Declan *do* share a propensity
for witty cynicism and multi-layered puns, and I really *have* occasionally
thought of Steve Taylor as the Christian Elvis Costello.
Musically, though, Costello writes more melodies in one song than ST has
recorded in his entire career. As much as I'm impressed with Costello's
lyrical gifts, that's not his strongest suit. He's written the most
inventive melodies since Cole Porter and Paul McCartney.
>>While we are on the subject of T-Bone produced albums, besides the artists
>>mentioned above, what has he produced?
>
>Well, you probably know these, Tom, but there's Tonio K. (producer of
>"You Will Go Free" from Romeo Unchained and "executive producer" of
>both What? albums, and I think he produced Tonio's latest, unreleased
>album), Peter Case's debut eponymous album, a couple of albums for
>acoustic guitarist Leo Kottke, some albums by Los Lobos (a band I'm
>still planning to delve into before the year's end), Roy Orbison (a
>song or two from Mystery Girl and the live Black and White Night that
>featured Elvis Costello, Bruce Springsteen, Tom Waits, and
>himself).... Hmm what else? You really can't go wrong with anything
>he's produced.
Agreed. If T-Bone produces it, it's good. Here are some more to add
to the list.
-- Marshall Crenshaw, "Downtown"
-- Joe Henry, "Shuffletown" (a *great* album -- fans of
acoustic Peter Case, John Austin, etc. will love this)
-- Mark Heard, "Dry Bones Dance"
-- Bob Neuwirth, "Back to the Front"
-- Vince Bell, "Phoenix"
There are lots more, but I'm drawing a blank right now.
>If we start listing albums that have his name somwhere in the liner
>notes, we'll be here all day -- everything from Mark Heard to U2.
Yeah, but if you're looking for safe bets, the whole SoCal Christian
clique is downright incestuous in terms of playing on each other's
albums. Pick up anything by T-Bone, Bob Neuwirth, Sam Phillips,
Victoria Williams, Maria McKee, Peter Case, Tonio K., Marvin Etzioni,
The Williams Brothers, Steve Soles, Julie Miller, etc., and chances
are you'll find five or more of the above people playing on the
album.
>Rob
>--
>Robert Davis (dav...@netcom.com) "Look up, Hannah."
Andy Whitman
AT&T Network Systems
Columbus, Ohio
a...@cblph.att.com
Robert Davis
>
>Here are some more to add to the list.
>
> -- Marshall Crenshaw, "Downtown"
> -- Joe Henry, "Shuffletown" (a *great* album -- fans of
> acoustic Peter Case, John Austin, etc. will love this)
> -- Mark Heard, "Dry Bones Dance"
>
Dry Bones Dance was produced by Mark Heard. But T Bone is given
credit with Sam for "encouragement and talking headstands." I always
wanted T Bone to produce a Mark Heard album, and I imagine it would
sound like Dry Bones Dance.
>
> -- Bob Neuwirth, "Back to the Front"
> -- Vince Bell, "Phoenix"
>
>There are lots more, but I'm drawing a blank right now.
>
Robert Davis
>
[Tom Senor, unattributed:]
>>While we are on the subject of T-Bone produced albums, besides the artists
>>mentioned above, what has he produced?
>
If you mean Monster, it was produced by Scott Litt and REM.
cynthia r. collins
>Yeah, but if you're looking for safe bets, the whole SoCal Christian
>clique is downright incestuous in terms of playing on each other's
>albums. Pick up anything by T-Bone, Bob Neuwirth, Sam Phillips,
>Victoria Williams, Maria McKee, Peter Case, Tonio K., Marvin Etzioni,
>The Williams Brothers, Steve Soles, Julie Miller, etc., and chances
>are you'll find five or more of the above people playing on the
>album.
I don't know if you'll find this information interesting or not, but
Maria McKee is currently in the studio (in Santa Monica) recording
a new album. I know this because one of the backup singers in one
of the bands I'm with plays in another group with Maria's drummer
(talk about incestuous!). Come to think of it, *I've* worked with
Maria on a couple of gigs--but she was sitting in with us, I wasn't
in her band. Also, in case you're interested in a bit more
So. Cal. and Irish/Brit musical incest--Maria got up with us
(I was in Shane MacGowan's backup band for a few gigs he
did in Los Angeles in 1993) to perform Shane's song
"Fairytale of New York." This was for opening night (and
a surprise gig a couple of nights later) at the now-notorious
Viper Room. So how does this play in to all the other
musical incest? Well, actually, this is a bit of trans-
Atlantic incest. Maria lives in Dublin part of the year.
So does Shane (if you call his existence "living"). Shane, you
might know, was the former lead singer/songwriter for the
Pogues--and Elvis Costello produced the Pogues and married
their bass player (Cait O'Riordan). So that gets us back
to Elvis Costello, which of course also gets us back to
T-Bone Burnett from a different direction!
BTW, Maria was pretty nice. She's incredibly demanding
on her musicians though (she fired her whole band a few days after
we played on the bill with them--and they were a cooking
band). The guys in my band thought she was "difficult"--
but probably because she was a woman fronting the band.
I talked with her a lot and found her very accessible and
sweet.
Incidentally, I saw U2 a couple of years ago from
the 3rd row, and before the show, Edge walked up to the
entry to our section with T-Bone Burnett--who came through
the entry and disappeared somewhere into the seating.
Well, I could tell you lots about musical incest in So.
Cal., but most of it wouldn't interest you since it's
totally off-topic. But just thought I'd put in my few
cents worth on Maria. Hope you didn't mind the interruption.
--Cindy
Polizzi (Joe)
>While we are on the subject of T-Bone produced albums, besides the artists
>mentioned above, what has he produced?
Ya meen besides the new REM project?
Polizzi (Joe)
>>Ya meen besides the new REM project?
>
>
>If you mean Monster, it was produced by Scott Litt and REM.
Whoops... Mea Culpa, Forgive! Forgive! I meant Counting Crows! (Ya know
your tired when your thinking "Crows" and typeing REM.) Guess this is hw rumors
get started (grin).
Andy Whitman
cynthia r. collins <ccol...@delphi.com> wrote:
>In an article, Andy Whitman (a...@ncms1.cb.att.com) wrote:
>
>>Yeah, but if you're looking for safe bets, the whole SoCal Christian
>>clique is downright incestuous in terms of playing on each other's
>>albums. Pick up anything by T-Bone, Bob Neuwirth, Sam Phillips,
>>Victoria Williams, Maria McKee, Peter Case, Tonio K., Marvin Etzioni,
>>The Williams Brothers, Steve Soles, Julie Miller, etc., and chances
>>are you'll find five or more of the above people playing on the
>>album.
>
> I don't know if you'll find this information interesting or not, but
> Maria McKee is currently in the studio (in Santa Monica) recording
> a new album. I know this because one of the backup singers in one
> of the bands I'm with plays in another group with Maria's drummer
> (talk about incestuous!).
Are you kidding? This is better than "Hard Copy" and "Entertainment
Tonight". I love this stuff. In my hometown in north-central Ohio
the big scandal is the use of steroids on steers sold at the county
fair. Man, eye-witness music reporting with liberal use of the
word "incest". Is the Internet great, or what?
So what band(s) are you in?
> Come to think of it, *I've* worked with
> Maria on a couple of gigs--but she was sitting in with us, I wasn't
> in her band. Also, in case you're interested in a bit more
> So. Cal. and Irish/Brit musical incest--Maria got up with us
> (I was in Shane MacGowan's backup band for a few gigs he
> did in Los Angeles in 1993)
Yeesh. You have my condolences. The guy is still tottering around
a stage, eh?
> to perform Shane's song
> "Fairytale of New York." This was for opening night (and
> a surprise gig a couple of nights later) at the now-notorious
> Viper Room. So how does this play in to all the other
> musical incest? Well, actually, this is a bit of trans-
> Atlantic incest. Maria lives in Dublin part of the year.
> So does Shane (if you call his existence "living").
Actually, I like Shane (well, his music, anyway), and it saddens
me to see a songwriter of his caliber throwing his life away.
So what style of music is he (and your band?) doing these days?
Still the Celtic/Punk thing?
> Shane, you
> might know, was the former lead singer/songwriter for the
> Pogues--and Elvis Costello produced the Pogues and married
> their bass player (Cait O'Riordan). So that gets us back
> to Elvis Costello, which of course also gets us back to
> T-Bone Burnett from a different direction!
Gotta love those musical mazes. Actually, my friends and I play
this game all the time (okay, go from Sandy Patti to Johnny Rotten
in only four moves, etc.).
> BTW, Maria was pretty nice. She's incredibly demanding
> on her musicians though (she fired her whole band a few days after
> we played on the bill with them--and they were a cooking
> band). The guys in my band thought she was "difficult"--
> but probably because she was a woman fronting the band.
> I talked with her a lot and found her very accessible and
> sweet.
I've never met Maria here in Steer Country, but I've read several
interviews where she holds forth on the history of music. She
has an *incredible* knowledge of music, and seems incredibly
opinionated on everything from the current deplorable state of
country music to great blues unknowns from the 1920s to
her favorite Celtic musicians. And I want her bootleg Van Morrison
collection.
I can believe that she might be labelled "difficult". She certainly
doesn't mince any words. It's probably good that she's not
affiliated with CCM :-)
> Incidentally, I saw U2 a couple of years ago from
> the 3rd row, and before the show, Edge walked up to the
> entry to our section with T-Bone Burnett--who came through
> the entry and disappeared somewhere into the seating.
> Well, I could tell you lots about musical incest in So.
> Cal., but most of it wouldn't interest you since it's
> totally off-topic. But just thought I'd put in my few
> cents worth on Maria. Hope you didn't mind the interruption.
Naw, that was fun.
> --Cindy
Andy Whitman
AT&T Network Systems
Columbus, Ohio
John Bullough
>>mentioned above, what has he produced?
In addition to "How Will the Wolf Survive?" by Los Lobos, Mr. Burnett
has also produced his wife Leslie/Sam Phillips's last four albums,
another Los Lobos album (with Los Lobos) called "By the Light of the Moon,"
was "Executive Producer" on Tonio K's "Notes from the Lost Civilization,"
and produced Elvis Costello's "Spike" album, the Del Fuegos' "Boston, Mass."
and the Counting Crows' "August and Everything After."
Not to mention Bruce Cockburn's "Nothing But a Burning Light" and (I think)
"Dart to the Heart." And his own albums, presumably, although I sadly
own not a single one of those. Suggestions for a good T-Bone (Burnett)
album to start with?
Peace!
--
John Bullough, Research Associate EMAIL: bul...@rpi.edu
Lighting Research Center TEL (518) 276-8717
School of Architecture FAX (518) 276-4835
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Ern Chang
: In article <39ele9$2a...@tequesta.gate.net>, pol...@gate.net (Polizzi
: (Joe)) writes:
: Is the T-bone you are talking about that same T-Bone that is a rapper and
: just put out an album called "life of a hoddlum"
: In other words is T-bone burnett and T-Bone "life of a hoodlum" the same
: or different people.
: Thanks in advance
: jjcerbone
DIFFERENT!!!!! TOTALLY DIFFERENT!!!!
ACK!!!!!
ern "no malice intended" chang
med2...@nus.sg
Jjcerbone
Logan Shaw
>Not to mention Bruce Cockburn's "Nothing But a Burning Light" and (I think)
>"Dart to the Heart." And his own albums, presumably, although I sadly
>own not a single one of those. Suggestions for a good T-Bone (Burnett)
>album to start with?
- If you like stuff with a sort of country feel, go for his eponymous album.
- If you like 'trancendental Christian blues' (sounds appealing, doesn't
it?), go for _Truth_Decay_. This is mostly good bluesy stuff (with a
definite rock edge). Be forewarned, however, that when T-Bone
toured with Bob Dylan, he apparently picked up some of his weird/sloppy
singing style, and it shows up on this album. In particular, one
song goes like this:
I can't sit by
And let you believe their lies.
Baby, don't you understand?
You're walking on quicksand.
But, it's sung like this:
I-ee can't sit by-eeeeeeeeeeeee-uh
And let you b'leeve their lie-eeeeeeeeeeee-zuh.
Baby, don't you understa-aaaaaaaaanduh?
You're walkin' on quicksannnnnd.
Kind of a fun effect, if you don't take it too seriously.
- If you'd like a more modern and refined album -- one which is actually
possible to purchase without going to great lengths -- go for
_The_Criminal_Under_My_Own_Hat_. It's a good intro album.
- If you like buying your records at the Tower Records store on Sunset
Boulevard in Hollywood, California, buy his eponymous album -- they're
probably have it for $7.99. (Sort of an inside joke here.)
- If you like clever lyrics and maybe a bit of sarcasm, any of the
albums will do.
- I think there's another album which I don't have, but I can't seem to
find it anywhere.
I guess what I'm saying is that I'd start with _The_Criminal_Under_My_Own_Hat_.
Say, while we're on the subject, does anyone have anything by the Alpha Band?
Is it worth tracking down?
Adios,
Logan
--
Logan Shaw, Unix System Administrator
"Everything is a struggle in Unix" -Dave Keenan
EuGhiE PaN
: > I don't know if you'll find this information interesting or not, but
: > Maria McKee is currently in the studio (in Santa Monica) recording
: > a new album. I know this because one of the backup singers in one
: > of the bands I'm with plays in another group with Maria's drummer
: > (talk about incestuous!).
: > Come to think of it, *I've* worked with
: > Maria on a couple of gigs--but she was sitting in with us, I wasn't
: > in her band. Also, in case you're interested in a bit more
: > So. Cal. and Irish/Brit musical incest--Maria got up with us
: > (I was in Shane MacGowan's backup band for a few gigs he
: > did in Los Angeles in 1993)
So what's up with Maria McKee? She coming up with a new album or something?
Just got my hands on 'Lone Justice' ( the first album) ... great stuff...
: Actually, I like Shane (well, his music, anyway), and it saddens
: me to see a songwriter of his caliber throwing his life away.
: So what style of music is he (and your band?) doing these days?
: Still the Celtic/Punk thing?
Why did Shane leave the Pogues?
Eughie
med2...@leonis.nus.sg
ccol...@delphi.com
>So what's up with Maria McKee? She coming up with a new album or something?
>Just got my hands on 'Lone Justice' ( the first album) ... great stuff...
and he said he'd given her the tape that our backup singer had given
him that I'd made from our Viper Room gigs. Haven't heard anything
yet about whether Maria's listened to it or not. All I know about
what she's doing is that she's in the studio and that all the drum
tracks are already laid down :-).
>Why did Shane leave the Pogues?
And believe me, it wasn't. The night we met him at the studio where
we were rehearsing, he was in a horribly shaky condition. He walked
out of the limo into the studio holding a bottle of Night Train (real
cheap wino wine). Now mind you, everybody in our band except me is
from Dublin. We've all seen our fair share of alcoholism. But we
were absolutely stunned, shocked, saddened. We felt we were watching
a ghost. He's deep into the late stages of alcoholism. He couldn't
even figure out how to operate my ghetto blaster to listen to the
Tom Waits song he wanted to sing (and so had to get the lyrics from).
At the soundcheck a couple days later, we called for a quick
rehearsal of "Fall from Grace. . ." and he asked "Did we do that the
other night?" He was in a blackout during our rehearsal. He also
kept wanting to play gigs with us--at the last minute. So we're
at home, relaxing and then suddenly get a last minute call from
the Viper Room to come down because "Shane wants to play tonight."
Talk about total chaos. We only played 3 gigs with him over the
period of 2 weeks, but we felt as if our lives were caught in some
bizarre whirlwind. On the last gig, he didn't arrive until half
Don't get me wrong. I loved playing with him. And he's actually
a really nice guy. He was a lot different than I expected. I
expected a totally negative punk with a really nasty attitude. He
wasn't like that at all. Basically, he was a really nice, but
totally wasted, guy who's slowly dying of alcoholism. And yes,
he is dying of it. So that's the news on Shane--as best I know
Andy Whitman
EuGhiE PaN <med2...@leonis.nus.sg> wrote:
>So what's up with Maria McKee? She coming up with a new album or something?
>Just got my hands on 'Lone Justice' ( the first album) ... great stuff...
Cindy Collins just posted that she's apparently recording a new album
now. There are two other Lone Justice albums and two solo Maria McKee
albums -- all worthwhile.
>: Actually, I like Shane (well, his music, anyway), and it saddens
>: me to see a songwriter of his caliber throwing his life away.
>: So what style of music is he (and your band?) doing these days?
>: Still the Celtic/Punk thing?
>
>Why did Shane leave the Pogues?
Actually, the Pogues left Shane, mainly because he's a rather pathetic
fall-down-on-stage-pee-in-his-pants drunk. I haven't heard much about
him for the past couple of years but, quite frankly, I'm amazed that
he's still alive. Of course, he is (or was, at any rate) a very
gifted songwriter, and he had a voice that made Dylan sound like
Pavarotti. My kind of singer. But he's a very sad character, sorely
in need of a life-changing experience, preferably one involving Jesus.
>Eughie
>med2...@leonis.nus.sg
Ed Rock
On 8 Nov 1994, Ern Chang wrote:
> Jjcerbone (jjce...@aol.com) wrote:
> : In article <39ele9$2a...@tequesta.gate.net>, pol...@gate.net (Polizzi
> : (Joe)) writes:
>
> : [basically is T-Bone Burnette the same as the rap guy?]
>
> DIFFERENT!!!!! TOTALLY DIFFERENT!!!!
> ACK!!!!!
If we're throwing new steps into the T-Bone shuffle, we could do the
T-Bone Wolk shuffle with Hall & Oates:
BIG BAM BOOM
A CHANGE OF SEASONS
H2O
VOICES
OOH YEAH
I know, I know. But it is a T-Bone. And I once heard a rumor that this
was the same T-Bone who played on *WELCOME TO PARADISE.* Aha, back to
rmc. ;-D
Ed Rock | I'm not Amy Grant
aka Ed Crabtree | --but I've played her on the radio.
ercr...@email.unc.edu |
Mitchell K Dwyer
Paul Bennett
> In article <3a6u4a$n...@nuscc.nus.sg>,
> EuGhiE PaN <med2...@leonis.nus.sg> wrote:
>
> >So what's up with Maria McKee? She coming up with a new album or something?
> >Just got my hands on 'Lone Justice' ( the first album) ... great stuff...
>
> Cindy Collins just posted that she's apparently recording a new album
> now. There are two other Lone Justice albums and two solo Maria McKee
> albums -- all worthwhile.
For the record, (and as an avid Maria McKee fan), here's her releases as
best I know them:
Albums:
Lone Justice/Lone Justice
Lone Justice/Shelter - significantly different lineup
Lone Justice/In Concert
Maria McKee/Maria McKee
Maria McKee/You Gotta Sin To Get Saved
Odd Singles (not on any albums)
Maria McKee/Show Me Heaven
Sweetest Child with Maria McKee/Sweetest Child
Compilation Tracks
Maria McKee/Opelousas (Sweet Relief) - on Victoria Williams' benifit album
Personally, my favourite track from the first Lone Justice is "After the
Flood", mainly because she manages to get the words "slush" and "soggy"
into the lyrics somehow.
As far as I am aware, the live Lone Justice is available only in the UK, and
was put out last year by BBC Radio One, from a concert they recorded some
years ago at (what was then) London's T&C Club. It's not brilliant, but
goes some way to show what they must've been like live. (Yup, I missed 'em.)
I gather there's also a live Lone Justice video available from some gig in
the States.
R1 also recorded Maria live in concert two years ago - a much better gig, and
will make a worthy album if it's ever released officially.
If anyone knows how to get their hands on the two singles listed, please
tell me! Also, is there anything I've missed out?
pab.
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Wayne Iba
>he's still alive. Of course, he is (or was, at any rate) a very
>gifted songwriter, and he had a voice that made Dylan sound like
Andy, so what are you saying? Can Shane sing or not. I mean, Pavarotti
and Dylan in the same sentence on the subject of _singing_???!!! Let's see,
if Shane's voice makes Dylan sound like Pavarotti ..., that must mean ....
No, I can't bear the thought -- but thanks for the warning.
But just what kind of singer is your kind? And Highway 61 Revisited?
Are you sure?
--wayne (what a long strange trip it's been)
ps: I was thoroughly disappointed with Percy's fiction (Moviegoer and Love
in the Ruins) but I've been enjoying his non-fiction; thanks for the tip.
Andy Whitman
In article <3adbtg$h...@theopolis.orl.mmc.com>,
Wayne Iba <way...@csdc02.orl.mmc.com> wrote:
>In article A...@nntpa.cb.att.com, a...@ncms1.cb.att.com (Andy Whitman) writes:
>[In reference to Shane MacGowan (but that is not important to my point)]
>>he's still alive. Of course, he is (or was, at any rate) a very
>>gifted songwriter, and he had a voice that made Dylan sound like
>>Pavarotti. My kind of singer. ....
>
>Andy, so what are you saying? Can Shane sing or not. I mean, Pavarotti
>and Dylan in the same sentence on the subject of _singing_???!!! Let's see,
>if Shane's voice makes Dylan sound like Pavarotti ..., that must mean ....
>No, I can't bear the thought -- but thanks for the warning.
Well, I think Shane can sing. And yes, I think Dylan is probably the
better singer of the two. But then I hold to this weird, inexplicable
view that Dylan is, at least at times, a brilliant vocalist who is a
master of phrasing and who manages to convey undisguised contempt and
bitterness and bile better than just about any other singer.
But yeah, Shane can sing, and he has a wonderful gargle-with-Drano kind
of rasp that conveys the desperation in his songs quite effectively.
You really should give a listen to The Pogues' albums "Rum, Sodomy, and
the Lash" and "If I Should Fall from Grace with God", if for no other
reason than these albums have an absolutely unique Celtic/Punk sound and
feature some first-rate songwriting.
>But just what kind of singer is your kind? And Highway 61 Revisited?
>Are you sure?
I don't really think that I could categorize the types of singers that I
like. I like a lot of singers whose voices would probably be considered
as "odd" or even "bad" by a lot of people. But then again I like
Pavarotti. And Maria Callas. And Billie Holiday. And Aretha. And
George Jones and Muddy Waters and Van Morrison and Hank Williams Sr.
I gave up a long time ago trying to figure out how all of this fits
together logically. I like what I like.
Wayne, Wayne, you really need to revisit "Highway 61 Revisited". How can
you *not* like "Like a Rolling Stone" or "Desolation Row"? (Well,
actually, it's quite okay with me. Totally incomprehensible. A mystery
of the faith equivalent to the Virgin Birth and the Trinity. But okay :-))
>--wayne (what a long strange trip it's been)
Uh-oh. A Deadhead. Probably Satanic.
>ps: I was thoroughly disappointed with Percy's fiction (Moviegoer and Love
>in the Ruins) but I've been enjoying his non-fiction; thanks for the tip.
Sure. Obviously I like both his fiction and non-fiction, but half a
convert is better than none :-). I *really* like _The Moviegoer_,
though. What didn't you like about it?
Rodcat
Whitman) writes:
Maria is the Babe of all Babes!
Shane was briliant with Nick Cave doing "What a Wonderfull World"
EuGhiE PaN
: In article A...@nntpa.cb.att.com, a...@ncms1.cb.att.com (Andy Whitman) writes:
: > In article <3a6u4a$n...@nuscc.nus.sg>,
: > EuGhiE PaN <med2...@leonis.nus.sg> wrote:
: >
: > >So what's up with Maria McKee? She coming up with a new album or something?
: > >Just got my hands on 'Lone Justice' ( the first album) ... great stuff...
: Albums:
: Lone Justice/Lone Justice
: Lone Justice/Shelter - significantly different lineup
: Lone Justice/In Concert
: Maria McKee/Maria McKee
: Maria McKee/You Gotta Sin To Get Saved
: Odd Singles (not on any albums)
: Maria McKee/Show Me Heaven
: Sweetest Child with Maria McKee/Sweetest Child
: Compilation Tracks
: Maria McKee/Opelousas (Sweet Relief) - on Victoria Williams' benifit album
: If anyone knows how to get their hands on the two singles listed, please
: tell me! Also, is there anything I've missed out?
: pab.
I've got one of her singles...'I'm gonna soothe you' it contains 'Show me
heaven' (acoustic version)....
You mean there's a separate single for 'Show me heaven'? The same version
that appears on the 'Days of Thunder' soundtrack?
Eujin Pan
med2...@leonis.nus.sg
EuGhiE PaN
:
: Shane got kicked out of the Pogues. It "just wasn't funny anymore."
The Pouges are one of the few bands that got me started on Irish
recording artists.... though Shane's rough, brazen voice ( somewhat
like Tom Waits and Bob Dylan of late... though Dylan's a little bit
more nasal...) took a while getting used to, but I soon began to acquire
a taste for his wild, unrestraint style which is kinda lacking in the
latest Pouges album 'Waiting for Herb' ...strangely tame .....
I still like 'If I should fall from grace ...'
Eujin Pan
med2...@leonis.nus.sg
Andy Whitman
Paul Bennett <pben...@lssec.bt.co.uk> wrote:
(Maria's discography deleted -- but thanks for putting it together, Paul!)
>If anyone knows how to get their hands on the two singles listed, please
>tell me! Also, is there anything I've missed out?
Maria sings backup and harmony vocals on the first three Dwight Yoakam
albums - "Guitars, Cadillcs, Etc.," "Hillbilly Deluxe," and "Buenos
Noches from a Lonely Room." These are great albums, and Maria is in
fine voice, but, as fair warning, these are old fashioned truck stop
jukebox anthems along the lines of "the dog died, my baby left, the pickup
won't run, and there's no comfort in the bottle."
>pab.
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Ed Rock
On Mon, 21 Nov 1994, Andy Whitman wrote:
> Maria sings backup and harmony vocals on the first three Dwight Yoakam
> albums - "Guitars, Cadillcs, Etc.," "Hillbilly Deluxe," and "Buenos
> Noches from a Lonely Room."
And a duet on *GUITARS, CADILLACS, ETC.*
> These are great albums, and Maria is in fine voice,
A hearty, hearty, AMEN!
> but, as fair warning, these are old fashioned truck stop
> jukebox anthems along the lines of "the dog died, my baby left, the pickup
> won't run, and there's no comfort in the bottle."
As a further warning, if you don't like the idea of liking country, turn
back now. I never had *any* intention of liking *any* of the music my
dad did. Dwight Yoakam was the musical bridge between my dad and me
(though it's a bit too country for him ;-)).
> Andy Whitman
Ed Rock | "Sometimes I lie awake at night and I ask, 'Where
aka Ed Crabtree | did I go wrong?' Then a voice says to me, 'This
ercr...@email.unc.edu | is going to take more than one night.'"
| --Charlie Brown
Simon Lakin (YRL) 061 474 8840
>(Paul Bennett) writes:
>
> Odd Singles (not on any albums)
> Maria McKee/Show Me Heaven
> Sweetest Child with Maria McKee/Sweetest Child
>
> tell me! Also, is there anything I've missed out?
As a fellow Maria McKee fan, I think "yes" you've got her releases covered.
I reckon she's got one of the best female voices out. I saw her live in
concernt in a real dive, backstreet nightclub in Manchester some years ago
now, just after she'd split form Lone Justice. There was her + guitar +
piano (and player!) and it was one of the best gigs I've ever been too.
*PLEASE keep us informed if you know of any release/gig etc. !*
Simon.
P.s. I've got the CD single of 'Sweetest Child', just to make you jealous.
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ccol...@delphi.com
>The Pouges are one of the few bands that got me started on Irish
>recording artists.... though Shane's rough, brazen voice ( somewhat
sing "If I should fall from grace." After all, we learned it for Shane!
We decided we may as well keep doing it, and I can sing it in his key.
The cool thing about singing a Shane MacGowan song is that you never
have to worry about the "quality" of your voice ;-). But seriously,
I love his voice. Now if he should fall *into* grace with God . . .
Cindy Collins
ccol...@delphi.com
StLRams
writes:
You missed "Never Be You" on the Streets Of Fire soundtrack. Maybe her
best song. Well worth the price!!
EuGhiE PaN
: In article <Cz9M9...@nntpa.cb.att.com>, a...@ncms1.cb.att.com (Andy
: Whitman) writes:
: Maria is the Babe of all Babes!
Didn't Bono and company go all the way to a pub ( or club) just to hear
her sing?
EuGhiE Pan