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Adam Justin Thornton

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Nov 8, 1991, 11:29:38 AM11/8/91
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All right, I'll bite: WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

Ob.Kinda.Folklore: Sure, the 8088 had a more powerful instruction set,
but as has already been mentioned, the 6502 generally got a lot more
per cycle done.

I never really thought about flippies being bad for the drives; in
fact I think the drives on my //e (vintage 1983: B revision ROMs),
which are the notoriously unreliable DuoDisks (half-height, but not
nearly as, er, robust as the Disk II's, on which I've used flippies for
eight years, are still working just fine. Come to think of it, better
than 90% of the flippies are still working OK too. Someday I'm going to
null-modem everything together and copy everything to a PC so if that
venerable machine ever bites the dust I can still play Choplifter and
Russki Duck on the Virtual Apple.

Adam, "No I haven't hugged my *$#()ing wolf today" Thornton
--
Adam Thornton | Opinions are mine alone, though Rice is welcome to them.
"Once in a while, you can get shown the light in the strangest of places
if you look at it right." | "To all the beautiful people out there: there
are a lot more of us than there are of you."| ad...@owlnet.rice.edu | 64,928

Peter da Silva

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Nov 9, 1991, 10:38:21 AM11/9/91
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ad...@blackfin.owlnet.rice.edu (Adam Justin Thornton) writes:
> All right, I'll bite: WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

Fascinating. I can't imagine where all this pent-up frustration is coming
from. It simply means "Have you hugged your wolf today?". Don't you think
wolves deserve a few hugs now and then? No hidden agendas.

If you don't have a wolf, surely you can find something else to hug.
--
-- Peter da Silva. CALL -151 `-_-'
-- Taronga Park BBS.
-- +1 713 568 0480|1032 2400/n/8/1.
-- "Have you hugged your wolf today?"

Ron Dippold

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Nov 9, 1991, 2:16:23 PM11/9/91
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ad...@blackfin.owlnet.rice.edu (Adam Justin Thornton) writes:

>All right, I'll bite: WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
>Ob.Kinda.Folklore: Sure, the 8088 had a more powerful instruction set,
>but as has already been mentioned, the 6502 generally got a lot more
>per cycle done.

They're both kinda deranged instruction sets. I much prefer the
orthogonal set on the 68000, it's much better designed.
--
The sex act is the funniest thing on the face of this earth. -- Diana Rigg

Adam Justin Thornton

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Nov 10, 1991, 1:06:32 AM11/10/91
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Peter Da Silva accuses me of having pent-up-frustration and then assures
me he has no hidden agenda behind his lupine cuddling program. Mmm Hmm.

I'm frustrated because I'm too cheap to buy a decent OS for my 386 and GNU OS
isn't out yet and I have to run this silly little loader called MSDOS. Either
that or work on the school's Macintoshes, which is not an optimal solution
either.

No, I still haven't hugged my wolf.

Adam

Peter da Silva

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Nov 10, 1991, 8:59:04 AM11/10/91
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rdip...@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
> They're both kinda deranged instruction sets. I much prefer the
> orthogonal set on the 68000, it's much better designed.

Personally, I prefer the 6809. You could do the Forth inner interpreter
in one fewer instruction, since the 68000 didn't have double-indirect
with postincrement.

(an odd kind of benchmark, I must admit, since the 1802 comes out better
than the Z80)

Peter da Silva

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Nov 10, 1991, 9:01:49 AM11/10/91
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ad...@flammulated.owlnet.rice.edu (Adam Justin Thornton) writes:
> Peter Da Silva accuses me of having pent-up-frustration and then assures
> me he has no hidden agenda behind his lupine cuddling program.

Nope, nope, nope. And it's "da Silva". Small "d".

> I'm frustrated because I'm too cheap to buy a decent OS for my 386 and GNU OS
> isn't out yet and I have to run this silly little loader called MSDOS.

Well, check out comp.os.minix. As the Arch-OS/2 fiend Peter Busser has informed
me, there's a 386 kernel called linux under development in Finland. You need
MINIX to bring it up, though.

> No, I still haven't hugged my wolf.

Poor thing must be having a terrible time of it.

Linus Benedict Torvalds

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Nov 10, 1991, 4:45:04 PM11/10/91
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In article <3JQ...@taronga.com> pe...@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>ad...@flammulated.owlnet.rice.edu (Adam Justin Thornton) writes:
>> I'm frustrated because I'm too cheap to buy a decent OS for my 386 and GNU OS
>> isn't out yet and I have to run this silly little loader called MSDOS.
>
>Well, check out comp.os.minix. As the Arch-OS/2 fiend Peter Busser has informed
>me, there's a 386 kernel called linux under development in Finland. You need
>MINIX to bring it up, though.

Happily this isn't true any more (needing minix, that is). Linux /can/
be used without minix, but it's not a tool for a user yet. Hacker-
material (ie I've got gcc, uemacs etc, but no real utils). Wait for
Hurd if you want something real. It's fun hacking it, though (but I'm
biased).

Linus "finger me for more info" Torvalds
(torv...@kruuna.helsinki.fi)

Robert Cohen

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Nov 10, 1991, 11:09:12 PM11/10/91
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pe...@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>ad...@blackfin.owlnet.rice.edu (Adam Justin Thornton) writes:
>> All right, I'll bite: WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

>Fascinating. I can't imagine where all this pent-up frustration is coming
>from. It simply means "Have you hugged your wolf today?". Don't you think
>wolves deserve a few hugs now and then? No hidden agendas.

We have just been honoured to see Peter rise to the upper echelons of
Usenet, his signature has prompted a thread..

In order to formalise the levels of Usenet, I propose the following
Usenet Purity Test.

1) Have you ever posted to Usenet
2) had a posting in a moderated group accepted
3) Crossposted
4) posted a control message
5) Have you ever recieved an answer to a posting by mail
6) had someone reply with a posting
7) started a thread
8) had your signature start a thread
9) been flamed by mail for a posting
10) been flamed on Usenet
11) been flamed for your signature
12) started a flame war
13) started a flame war that moved to alt.flame
14) had someone announce in a posting that you were in their kill file
15) Have you ever posted a RFD for a new group
16) posted an RFD for a hierarchy
17) created a group due to a vote
18) created a hierarchy due to a vote
19) created a group without an RFD
20) created a hierarchy without an RFD
21) Have you ever forged a posting.
22) forged a reply to your own posting to start a thread
23) forged a flame of your own posting
24) posted anything deliberately to increase your score in
the Usenet Purity test


In case anyone's wondering, my purity is 5, but I'm not saying which 5 ;-)
Feel free to extend the list... We'll reach a hundred yet...

--
Robert Cohen email: rob...@anucsd.anu.edu.au
PhD Student, Dept of Computer Science
Australian National University
Neuron not responding, still meditating. - "BrainOS" error message

Peter da Silva

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Nov 11, 1991, 8:46:37 AM11/11/91
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rob...@vulcan.anu.edu.au (Robert Cohen) writes:
> 1) Have you ever posted to Usenet
> 2) had a posting in a moderated group accepted
> 3) Crossposted
To a moderated group?

> 4) posted a control message
> 5) Have you ever recieved an answer to a posting by mail
> 6) had someone reply with a posting
> 7) started a thread
> 8) had your signature start a thread
> 9) been flamed by mail for a posting
flamed back?

> 10) been flamed on Usenet
flamed back?

> 11) been flamed for your signature
been warlorded?

> 12) started a flame war
tried to move a flame war to alt.flame?

> 13) started a flame war that moved to alt.flame
crossposted to alt.flame to start a flame war?

> 14) had someone announce in a posting that you were in their kill file
> 15) Have you ever posted a RFD for a new group
> 16) posted an RFD for a hierarchy
> 17) created a group due to a vote
> 18) created a hierarchy due to a vote
> 19) created a group without an RFD
> 20) created a hierarchy without an RFD
had a newsgroup created in your honor?

> 21) Have you ever forged a posting.
To a moderated group?
Have you ever forged a control message?

> 22) forged a reply to your own posting to start a thread
> 23) forged a flame of your own posting
> 24) posted anything deliberately to increase your score in
> the Usenet Purity test
--
-- Peter da Silva. CALL -151 `-_-'
-- Taronga Park BBS.
-- +1 713 568 0480|1032 2400/n/8/1.
-- "Have you hugged your wolf today?"

PeterClaus Gutmann

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Nov 11, 1991, 6:18:55 PM11/11/91
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In <rdippold.689714183@cancun> rdip...@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:

>ad...@blackfin.owlnet.rice.edu (Adam Justin Thornton) writes:

>>Ob.Kinda.Folklore: Sure, the 8088 had a more powerful instruction set,
>>but as has already been mentioned, the 6502 generally got a lot more
>>per cycle done.

>They're both kinda deranged instruction sets. I much prefer the
>orthogonal set on the 68000, it's much better designed.

Nahh, the 80x86's are neat - I mean how can you hassle a processor with a
flags register that reads O DITS ZAP C?

Peter.
--
pg...@cs.aukuni.ac.nz || pet...@kcbbs.gen.nz || pe...@nacjack.gen.nz
(In order of preference)

Andrew Raphael

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Nov 11, 1991, 6:43:19 PM11/11/91
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In article <RHP...@taronga.com>

pe...@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>ad...@blackfin.owlnet.rice.edu (Adam Justin Thornton) writes:
>> All right, I'll bite: WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
>If you don't have a wolf, surely you can find something else to hug.
>-- Taronga Park BBS.

I'd always assumed that Peter da Silva used to live in or near Taronga
Park Zoo, and therefore had access to wolves to hug.
--
Andrew Raphael <rap...@research.canon.oz.au>
I guess it's under the same sky.

Steve Lamont

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Nov 11, 1991, 7:19:31 PM11/11/91
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In article <3JQ...@taronga.com> pe...@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>ad...@flammulated.owlnet.rice.edu (Adam Justin Thornton) writes:
>> No, I still haven't hugged my wolf.
>
>Poor thing must be having a terrible time of it.

I don't know why, but I've always thought of Mr da Silva as
Peter N. da Wolf...

spl (the p stands for
played on a bassoon)
--
Steve Lamont, SciViGuy -- (619) 534-7968 -- s...@dim.ucsd.edu
UCSD Microscopy and Imaging Resource/UCSD Med School/La Jolla, CA 92093-0608
"The astrological forecast should be read for entertainment only."
- Los Angeles Times

Dik T. Winter

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Nov 11, 1991, 8:12:55 PM11/11/91
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In article <robert.689832552@vulcan> rob...@vulcan.anu.edu.au (Robert Cohen) writes:
> In order to formalise the levels of Usenet, I propose the following
> Usenet Purity Test.
>
> 1) Have you ever posted to Usenet
...

> 24) posted anything deliberately to increase your score in
> the Usenet Purity test
>
There is only one man who will score 24 out of 24. Kent Paul Dolan, the Man
from Xanth. But he is curiously silent nowadays (after the rsf proposals).

Are you Kent Paul Dolan?

Nope, you scored only 5 and your lines are too long.

But the net is not changing very much, as long as we allow for the larger
population. When I started reading (over 10 years ago) the same problems
were visible as they are now. Only the volume has grown. I am only able
to read 140 newsgroups! Where is Bob Webber when we need him (he would also
easily have scored 24 out of 24).
--
dik t. winter, cwi, amsterdam, nederland
d...@cwi.nl

Matthew Farwell

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Nov 12, 1991, 10:05:05 AM11/12/91
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This, of course, is the real Usenet Purity Test, posted to talk.bizarre
a while back.

Dylan.
------

From slxsys!ukc!mcsun!uunet!world!decwrl!sgi!shinobu!odin!news Fri Mar 15 13:44:54 GMT 1991
Path: ibmpcug!slxsys!ukc!mcsun!uunet!world!decwrl!sgi!shinobu!odin!news
>From: c...@modernlvr.wpd.sgi.com (C J Silverio)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Seeking Purity Test
Message-ID: <1991Mar13....@odin.corp.sgi.com>
Date: 13 Mar 91 19:42:41 GMT
References: <98...@hub.ucsb.edu>
Sender: ne...@odin.corp.sgi.com (Net News)
Reply-To: c...@modernlvr.wpd.sgi.com (C J Silverio)
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---
650...@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Gabino Luis Alonso) writes:
|I am looking for a purity test that was posted some
|time ago. If you have a copy, please mail one to:
| 650...@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu

No, I'm not going to mail it. But here's a purity test.
Hope this is the one you were looking for. I wrote it
just for you.

----------------------------------

I'll eat my hat if Carasso is more than 10% pure.

-- CJ's Net.Purity Test --

CREDITS:

C J Silverio (c...@modernlvr.wpd.sgi.com),
with suggestions from Bill Coderre (b...@apple.com)

INSTRUCTIONS:

Read the questions. Answer yes or no.
If you're not sure how to answer, you lose.

SCORING:

Score one point for every "yes" answer. Other scoring is
as noted in individual questions. After you've answered
the questions, subtract your total from 100. The resulting
number is your purity percentage.

Suggested Score Interpretations:

>100 You're a total weenie; go back to comp.sys.weenoids where you belong.
75-100 Go back to soc.singles and alt.romance.chat, you horndog weenie.
51-74 You lied about never posting your purity scores, didn't you?
25-49 You alt.flame wanna-be-stud, you.
0-24 You must think you're net.joe.cool. WRONG.
<0 You're a total net.weenie-- get a life.

THE QUIZ:

Reading

1. Have you ever regularly read a Usenet group?

2. Lose one point if you've ever referred to newsgroups
as "boards" or "bboards."

3. Do you ever refer to newsgroups as 'froups?

4. Do you now, or have you ever, read talk.bizarre?

5. Have you ever regularly read an "alt" group?

6. Score one point for every year you've been a regular reader.

7. Subtract one point from your total for each "comp"
group you read regularly.

8. Subtract one point if you read alt.sex regularly.

9. Subtract one point if you read soc.singles regularly.

10. Subtract five points if you read rec.humor.*.

11. Score one point for every item of clothing you own that's
associated with a newsgroup.

12. Do you have a killfile?

13. Do you know about killfiles but refuse to use them on
principle?

14. Are you in anyone else's killfile?

15. Have you read news.announce.newusers?

16. Have you been on the net so long that you've never bothered
to read news.announce.newusers?

17. Does news.announce.newusers contain an article that you wrote?

18. Do you make "dot" jokes in your (non-net) conversation?


Posting

19. Have you ever posted to a Usenet group?

20. To the same group more than 10 times?

21. More times than you can count?

22. Has your name ever appeared on one of the uunet "Top 25" lists?

23. Were you #1? If so, score 10 points.

24. Has your name ever been dropped in someone else's posting?

25. Is your dot-sig file less than 4 lines long?

26. More than 20 lines long?

27. Has your dot-sig ever been flamed?

28. Have you ever flamed someone else's dot-sig?

29. Have you stopped using dot-sig files?

30. Are you quoted in any one else's dot-sig file?

31. Lose five points if you've ever posted to rec.humor.misc.

32. Lose one point for each lightbulb joke you've posted.

33. Lose one point if you've ever posted a request for part x of
any story in alt.sex.*.

34. Lose five points if you've ever posted a request for "Cindy's
Torment."

35. Lose one point if you've ever posted your purity test scores
to the net.

36. Score two points if you've posted them in rec.pets.

37. Lose one point for each pyramid scheme or chain letter you've
forwarded to the net.

38. Lose one point if you've ever flamed anyone for posting a
pyramid scheme or chain letter.

39. Lose one point if you've ever posted a request for the
definition of "SO" or "MOTAS".

40. Have you ever crossposted?

41. Have you ever crossposted to soc.women?

42. Have you ever crossposted to more than five groups simultaneously?

43. Were those groups totally unrelated to each other and to the
topic of your posting?

44. Subtract one point if you have ever accidentally crossposted or
followed-up to misc.test.

45. Have you ever deliberately crossposted to rec.arts.startrek
and talk.bizarre?

46. talk.bizarre and rec.pets?

47. Have you ever forged a posting?

48. Have you ever forged a newgroup?

49. Has anyone ever forged a cancellation of one of your postings?

50. Have you ever forged a cancellation of someone else's posting?

Newsgroups & Politics

51. Score one point for every news.* group you read.

52. Have you ever voted for or against a group?

53. Have you ever proposed a new newsgroup?

54. Was there a huge controversy & flame-fight during the
discussion period/voting period for your group?

55. Did the vote for your group pass?

56. Did the backbone refuse to create your group?

57. Is there a cabal?

58. Is there a cabal of Daves?

59. Did you vote for comp.protocols.tcp-ip.eniac?

60. Have you ever created an alt group without bothering to ask
permission?

61. A comp group?


Flaming

62. Have you ever flamed?

63. Have you ever been flamed?

64. Have you ever been flamed for flaming?

65. Have you ever crossposted a flame to a group other than alt.flame?

66. Have you ever flamed in any news.* group?

67. Have you ever coaxed anybody into posting their SAT/GRE/etc. scores?

68. Lose five points if *you* have ever posted your SAT/GRE/etc. scores.

69. Lose one point if you've ever referred to alt.flame as a "sewer."

70. Have you ever set the "Followup-To:" to misc.test?

71. Did anyone fall for it?

72. Did the victim then post complaining about it?

73. Lose one point if you've ever told anyone to "take it to email."

74. Lose one point for every one of the following easy targets that
you've flamed:
Roger David "Noelle" Carasso
Roger Rabbit
Kent Paul Dolan
Ted Kaldis
David J. Rasmussen
Kevin Darcy
any PSU geek who crossposted a homophobic rant
to the entire net

75. Score one point for each of the above that has flamed you.

76. Have you ever written a stern note to someone else's system
administrator?

77. Has anyone ever written a stern note about you to *your*
system administrator?

78. Are you your own system administrator?

79. Have your posting privileges ever been yanked for something
you posted?

80. Have you ever recommended that someone else's posting
privileges be yanked?

81. Did your recommendation start a censorship flame war?


Periodicity

82. Have you ever taken part in the roving "censorship" flame war?

83. Have you ever taken part in the roving "homosexuality" flame war?

84. In news.admin?

85. Lose five points if you were on the same side as Ted Kaldis.

86. Lose another five if you're not sure what side Ted Kaldis was on.

87. Lose a point if you've ever posted about the little kid with
cancer who wants to get enough postcards to get into the
Guinness Book of World Records.

88. Can you name the kid?

89. The other kid?

90. Have you ever flamed someone for posting about that kid?


Personalities

91. Have you ever flamed Patricia O Tuama?

92. Have you ever been flamed by Patricia O Tuama?

93. Have you ever been complimented by Patricia O Tuama?

94. Have you ever flamed Gene Spafford?

95. Did he notice?

96. Have you ever flamed Chuq von Rospach?

97. Do you remember Weemba?

98. Have you ever been flamed by Weemba?

99. Were you ever mentioned in a Maroney Award?

100. Are you Rich Rosen?


---
c...@modernlvr.wpd.sgi.com C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
"Usenet is like standing up in the middle of a crowded movie theater
and yelling, "CAR FOR SALE!" --Peter Honeyman
--
dy...@ibmpcug.co.uk || ...!uunet!uknet!ibmpcug!dylan
Just follow the simple rule - Rob Pike

Gym Z. Quirk

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Nov 12, 1991, 1:30:38 PM11/12/91
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In article <46...@charon.cwi.nl> d...@cwi.nl (Dik T. Winter) writes:
>In article <robert.689832552@vulcan> rob...@vulcan.anu.edu.au (Robert Cohen) writes:
> > In order to formalise the levels of Usenet, I propose the following
> > Usenet Purity Test.
> >
> > 1) Have you ever posted to Usenet
>...
> > 24) posted anything deliberately to increase your score in
> > the Usenet Purity test
> >
>There is only one man who will score 24 out of 24. Kent Paul Dolan, the Man
>from Xanth. But he is curiously silent nowadays (after the rsf proposals).

K*nt got married in late September. It would seem that he has managed
to find a life outside the net. There are several who are most
greatful of this...;-)

>--
>dik t. winter, cwi, amsterdam, nederland
>d...@cwi.nl


--
Capt. Gym Z. Quirk (Known to some as Taki Kogoma) tko...@triton.unm.edu
Nervous observer of the "Grand Startrek reorg" of Oct '91
R.I.P Gene Roddenberry. I may not have agreed with everything you
said, but you will be missed...

Peter da Silva

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Nov 12, 1991, 8:53:50 PM11/12/91
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rap...@research.canon.oz.au (Andrew Raphael) writes:
> I'd always assumed that Peter da Silva used to live in or near Taronga
> Park Zoo, and therefore had access to wolves to hug.

Well, if you consider Vaucluse "close"...

Steve Lamont

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Nov 12, 1991, 2:13:37 PM11/12/91
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In article <OMR...@taronga.com> pe...@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>rob...@vulcan.anu.edu.au (Robert Cohen) writes:
>> 1) Have you ever posted to Usenet
>> ...

>> 12) started a flame war
> tried to move a flame war to alt.flame?
sucessfully done so?

spl (the p stands for

pure as the driven
SNOBOL)

Sam Warden

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Nov 13, 1991, 1:22:45 AM11/13/91
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pg...@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (PeterClaus Gutmann ) writes:


>Nahh, the 80x86's are neat - I mean how can you hassle a processor with a
>flags register that reads O DITS ZAP C?

Don't forget the undefined 'stuck' bits: utter the magic incantation

ODIT SZUA UPUC!

and hug your wolf.
--

sa...@bucket.rain.com (Sam Warden) -- and not a mere Device.

Steve Lamont

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Nov 13, 1991, 2:42:04 PM11/13/91
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In article <samw.690013365@bucket> sa...@bucket.rain.com (Sam Warden) writes:
>Don't forget the undefined 'stuck' bits: utter the magic incantation
>
> ODIT SZUA UPUC!
>
>and hug your wolf.

I did as you suggested and now my office is full of frogs.

spl (the p stands for

prrriibbbit)

Bob Montante

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Nov 12, 1991, 12:00:59 PM11/12/91
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s...@alex.uucp (Steve Lamont) <1991Nov12....@network.ucsd.edu> :

| I don't know why, but I've always thought of Mr da Silva as
| Peter N. da Wolf...


I was going to stay out of this... but didn't Peter da Silva once
sign himself as "Peter 'da wolf' Silva" ? If memory serves (which
it sporadically does), the "hug" quote appeared at about the same time.

Peter da Silva

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Nov 14, 1991, 10:34:00 PM11/14/91
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bob...@sandshark.cs.indiana.edu (Bob Montante) writes:
> I was going to stay out of this... but didn't Peter da Silva once
> sign himself as "Peter 'da wolf' Silva" ? If memory serves (which
> it sporadically does), the "hug" quote appeared at about the same time.

No, it was "Peter `-_-' da Silva", followed by
"Have you hugged 'U` your wolf today?"

Tim Lambert

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Nov 16, 1991, 8:51:52 AM11/16/91
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]>>>> On 13 Nov 91 01:53:50 GMT, pe...@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) said:

] (Andrew Raphael) writes:
]> I'd always assumed that Peter da Silva used to live in or near Taronga
]> Park Zoo, and therefore had access to wolves to hug.

] Well, if you consider Vaucluse "close"...

It's only 3km as the wolf swims...

Peter da Silva

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Nov 16, 1991, 6:26:33 PM11/16/91
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Or in a Hobie Cat... they swim better. A wolf would tend to be run down
by the hydrofoils.

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