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Spanky

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Dec 25, 2002, 9:57:24 PM12/25/02
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Gang,
One of the last Classic applications I'm clinging to is NCSA Telnet.
Is there a simple telnet app for OSX? Perhaps something built in, via
the GUI or terminal? Or can someone recommend a freeware app?

Thanks!
_dennis

Seth Mattinen

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Dec 25, 2002, 10:14:01 PM12/25/02
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In article <251220021858389991%as...@you.needto.know>,
Spanky <as...@you.needto.know> wrote:


MacOS X includes telnet and ssh in the BSD layer; they're the same ones
you'd find on any *nix/*BSD box. Simply fire up terminal and type
"telnet" or "ssh".

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Larry Fransson

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Dec 26, 2002, 2:49:54 AM12/26/02
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In article <251220021858389991%as...@you.needto.know>,
Spanky <as...@you.needto.know> wrote:

> Is there a simple telnet app for OSX? Perhaps something built in, via
> the GUI or terminal?

As mentioned, telnet is included in the BSD subsystem. If you don't
like command line telnet, look at mac.tucows.com. I'm sure there's
something there.

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Larry Fransson
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Anders Eklöf

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Dec 26, 2002, 2:55:56 PM12/26/02
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Seth Mattinen <se...@rollermonkeysnet.us> wrote:

IMNSHO it's next to worthless - it doesn' even correctly emulate a
VT100 terminal, even less VT220 and up. Can't even use the arrow
keys in vi on the remost host.

Frederick Cheung

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Dec 26, 2002, 3:14:34 PM12/26/02
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that's what h,j,k,l are there for!
But yes it's annoying that telnet doesn't always work properly in that
respect.

Fred

G.T.

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Dec 26, 2002, 3:14:20 PM12/26/02
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I wouldn't know. I use SSH from Terminal and I have no problems. But
nothing could be worse than NT's telnet app.

Greg

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Tom Harrington

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Dec 26, 2002, 4:38:59 PM12/26/02
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In article <1fntgpj.1ox9j8n1gracw0N%andekl_no@saaf_spam.se>,
andekl_no@saaf_spam.se (Anders Eklöf) wrote:

Speak for yourself! They work fine for me, though I prefer the
traditional vi hjkl. Maybe $TERM isn't set right on your remote host?

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Peter Berger

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Dec 26, 2002, 9:11:07 PM12/26/02
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On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 02:06:05 GMT, M-M <nos...@ny.more> wrote:
> OK, so I typed "telnet" in Terminal- now what? I typed in the name of the
> machine I usually go to in NCSA Telnet and I get "?Invalid command"
>
> How do I get in to make a connection?
>
> I雋 not the original poster but I am very interested.

either provide the name of the host on the command line:

% telnet my.host.com

OR:
% telnet
telnet> open my.host.com

"help" at the telnet prompt will give you more info, but 99.999999999% of the
time you just want to type "telnet my.host.com" at the terminal prompt.

Stephen O. Lidie

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Dec 27, 2002, 8:54:55 AM12/27/02
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In comp.sys.mac.system M-M <nos...@ny.more> wrote:
> OK, so I typed "telnet" in Terminal- now what? I typed in the name of the
> machine I usually go to in NCSA Telnet and I get "Invalid command"

> How do I get in to make a connection?

> I'm not the original poster but I am very interested.

> thanks,

BTW folks, most of you should never use telnet, use ssh instead. Before I
hear complaints, I said most, so I don't want to hear of your special case
that *requires* you to use telnet. For 99.9% of the world, telnet is unsafe
and undesired.

ssh encrypts your session, telnet does not. ssh also can propagate xauth
data so you inter-operate with X11 on Unix machines nicely.

Steve
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Ray Fischer

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Dec 28, 2002, 5:36:35 AM12/28/02
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M-M <nos...@ny.more> wrote:
>OK, so I typed "telnet" in Terminal- now what? I typed in the name of the
>machine I usually go to in NCSA Telnet and I get "?Invalid command"

>
>How do I get in to make a connection?

Use this command:

% man telnet

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david raoul derbes

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Dec 28, 2002, 7:42:22 AM12/28/02
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In article <aujuri$j2$1...@bolt.sonic.net>,

Start Terminal.

Type , for instance, "telnet dar...@harvard.edu" and that should do it,
where 'dar...@harvard.edu' is the machine you usually connect to.

David Derbes [lo...@midway.uchicago.edu]


Jim Buzbee

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Dec 28, 2002, 10:54:57 AM12/28/02
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In article <10377361...@irys.nyx.net>,
Tom Poindexter <tpoi...@nyx.net> wrote:
>In article <10377241...@irys.nyx.net>,
>Jim Buzbee <jbu...@nyx10.nyx.net> wrote:
>>I have what should be a simple little bash script problem. I want to grab
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In article <O_gP9.111$w4.1...@news.uchicago.edu>,

I think that should be 'telnet darwin.harvard.edu' ....

Drifting slightly off-topic here, Does anyone know why it takes
an eternity for telnet to resolve names?

I timed it, 15 seconds after I type "telnet my.machine.org" I finally
get the "trying 1.2.3.4" type message. Other machines on my LAN
get it instantly, and they are all using the same DNS server.

Jim

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TK Boylan

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Dec 28, 2002, 12:03:40 PM12/28/02
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> Drifting slightly off-topic here, Does anyone know why it takes
> an eternity for telnet to resolve names?
>
> I timed it, 15 seconds after I type "telnet my.machine.org" I finally
> get the "trying 1.2.3.4" type message. Other machines on my LAN
> get it instantly, and they are all using the same DNS server.

There's something odd going on with OSX and DNS. I have the same problem
with OSX Server's ftp -- it takes forever for a client to resolve to it.
The same machine and settings under OS9 (using Rumpus as an ftp server)
and everything's fine. I've yet to find anyone who knows what's up,
though several have noted also having the problem.


-K-

Jim Buzbee

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Dec 28, 2002, 12:43:31 PM12/28/02
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In article <tkelleyb-31DAC1...@news.directvinternet.com>,

This is why I long for "strace" on OSX. Is anything similar available?

Dan Lowe

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Dec 28, 2002, 3:07:29 PM12/28/02
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In comp.sys.mac.system Jim Buzbee <jbu...@nyx10.nyx.net> wrote:
>
> This is why I long for "strace" on OSX. Is anything similar available?

ktrace. See kdump to read the output file.

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david raoul derbes

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Dec 28, 2002, 5:02:48 PM12/28/02
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In article <10410908...@irys.nyx.net>,

>In article <O_gP9.111$w4.1...@news.uchicago.edu>,
>david raoul derbes <lo...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>>In article <aujuri$j2$1...@bolt.sonic.net>,
>>Ray Fischer <rfis...@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
>>>M-M <nos...@ny.more> wrote:
>>
>>Start Terminal.
>>
>>Type , for instance, "telnet dar...@harvard.edu" and that should do it,
>>where 'dar...@harvard.edu' is the machine you usually connect to.
>
>I think that should be 'telnet darwin.harvard.edu' ....

Absolutely right. My apologies.

DD

Jason Perez

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Jan 2, 2003, 4:01:19 PM1/2/03
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In article <1fntgpj.1ox9j8n1gracw0N%andekl_no@saaf_spam.se>,

Why do you need arrow keys for vi??? hjkl do the job just fine.

-Jason

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Anders Eklöf

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Jan 3, 2003, 5:28:05 PM1/3/03
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Jason Perez <jas...@norton.sps.mot.com> wrote:

> >
> >IMNSHO it's next to worthless - it doesn' even correctly emulate a
> >VT100 terminal, even less VT220 and up. Can't even use the arrow
> >keys in vi on the remost host.
>
> Why do you need arrow keys for vi??? hjkl do the job just fine.

Because I'm not comfy with vi at all - I only use it when I have to,
which is when I telnet to a HPUX or Solaris server. It's hard enough
remembering to hit the escape key to end an input... :-)

Plus, I'm used to editors (and terminal emulators) that utilize the
full VT220 capabilities, and a large keyboard. Which incitentally
vi in HPUX and Solaris does.

My favorite non-Mac editor is still Digital's TPU/EVE ...

Dave Seaman

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Jan 3, 2003, 6:37:32 PM1/3/03
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I don't understand what the problem is. The arrow keys work perfectly
well with vi in a Terminal window. I have tried it in sessions with
remote hosts running Solaris, AIX, and Darwin, all with TERM=vt100, and
the arrow keys work perfectly in every case. Something is wrong with
your environment.

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Valethar

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Jan 4, 2003, 11:09:28 AM1/4/03
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Try ProTerm at http://www.intrec.com

I can't recall if they have an X native version yet, but if you don't
mind Classic/OS9, It should fill the bill. They have a demo that can be
downloaded from the site as well.

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- Vale

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