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Thomas Lee
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Thomas Lee
<thom...@clara.co.uk> writes
>Here I am I have a posting history
Fortunately this is not me - I have never once used Claranet account.
And I do not have a history of using OE as my news client.
Thomas
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Thomas Lee
(t...@psp.co.uk)
Tim Miller
news:VpmxNOEz...@mail.psp.co.uk...
> In message <102570531...@iris.uk.clara.net>, Thomas Lee
> <thom...@clara.co.uk> writes
> >Here I am I have a posting history
>
> Fortunately this is not me - I have never once used Claranet account.
>
> And I do not have a history of using OE as my news client.
>
yesterday. If we all ignore him, he'll probably drop his mad idea of
getting different sock puppets a posting history. In order to forge votes
he needs to do a lot more than just establish a posting history.
Tim (tm)
Allen
He's Thomas Lee, one of fifty or so in the phone book.
He'll be voting in a fewelections I suppose. Check out how many LGs
there are as well as Iain Bowens. Then have a try at Berrows G. ;-)
Makes for interesting don't you think. Wonder if he has got his voting
papers yet ?
Allen
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Allen
When a man points a finger at someone else, he should remember that four
of his fingers are pointing at himself.
Allen
Tim Miller might be posting next, there are lots of Windy Millers in the
phone book.
Allen
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Allen
He sounds like a chap after my own heart, are you saying that Richard
Ashton is Dave Mason too ?
Are you going to disenfranchise all clara users ? That puts you out of
the frame doesn't it ? ;-)
Allen
Allen
Richard Ashton wrote:
>
> In uk.net.news.config on Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:11:47 -0700, Thomas Lee
> <t...@psp.co.uk> wrote:
> }In message <102570531...@iris.uk.clara.net>, Thomas Lee
> }<thom...@clara.co.uk> writes
> }>Here I am I have a posting history
> }
> }Fortunately this is not me -
>
> No it is Dave Mason
>
> } I have never once used Claranet account.
>
> Mason does
>
> }And I do not have a history of using OE as my news client.
>
> Mason does
>
> {R}
Primeval Scream
>Of couse he's not you Tommy.
>
>He's Thomas Lee, one of fifty or so in the phone book.
>
> He'll be voting in a fewelections I suppose. Check out how many LGs
>there are as well as Iain Bowens. Then have a try at Berrows G. ;-)
>
>Makes for interesting don't you think. Wonder if he has got his voting
>papers yet ?
Using Ashton's flawed reasoning, I proclaim that:
You are probably not the real Allen Hughes - He does not use a Tiscali dial up.
Thomas Lee
>He's Thomas Lee, one of fifty or so in the phone book.
Actually, he's not. But don't let the truth get in the way of your
agenda.
> He'll be voting in a fewelections I suppose.
If he does, then he will be treated just like other folks who attempt
vote fraud.
> Check out how many LGs there are as well as Iain Bowens. Then have a
>try at Berrows G. ;-)
I see no humour in this.
>Makes for interesting don't you think.
No. No, it doesn't. All you do is to make things more difficult for
honest folks. I really don't know how you think your actions are
helpful.
> Wonder if he has got his voting papers yet ?
I don't know Allen - why don't you tell us? You seem to be the main
mover in this.
Fat Controller
> No he doesn't matey, and I should be careful inferring that it's me !
Or what? You will shoot/sue/report the offender?
>
> Tim Miller might be posting next, there are lots of Windy Millers in the
> phone book.
And one old windbag here, eh little Corporal.
>
> Allen
>
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FC
Fat Controller
> In message <3D23409D...@Allen.as>, Allen <Al...@Allen.as> writes
>
>
> No. No, it doesn't. All you do is to make things more difficult for
> honest folks. I really don't know how you think your actions are
> helpful.
Allen is not trying to be helpfull. He hates you all because you do
not believe his way is the true way the only way, the right way.
Because you have failed to comply with his demands he will use any
method, conspire with any low life, lie and cheat to try get his
message across.
He is and always has been, a spoilt child.
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FC
Fat Controller
> Of couse he's not you Tommy.
>
> He's Thomas Lee, one of fifty or so in the phone book.
How do you know who he is? One of your many 'friends'?
>
> He'll be voting in a fewelections I suppose. Check out how many LGs
> there are as well as Iain Bowens. Then have a try at Berrows G. ;-)
How do you know this?
>
> Makes for interesting don't you think. Wonder if he has got his voting
> papers yet ?
How do you know he has requested any?
>
> Allen
>
>
Given the above statements by the piss laden little corporal any
vote by the so called Thomas Lee could automatically be dissallowed.
By a strange co-incidence this action is similar to your response to
a similar situation Allen. Remember?
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FC
Tim Miller
news:MPG.178e3d124...@news.freeuk.com...
> In article <3D23412E...@Allen.as>, Al...@Allen.as says...
> > No he doesn't matey, and I should be careful inferring that it's me !
>
> Or what? You will shoot/sue/report the offender?
I'd be amused to see Allen suing me for saying "I think it's Allen". I'd
love to know how he's looking to prove that I wasn't thinking that.
Everyone ignore Allen, and provide support to those wanting to discuss group
creation. That's the easiest way.
Tim (tm)
Allen
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Allen
Laurence Godfrey posted over 300 items last week about Paul Cummins.
Wonder why ?
Richard
Allen
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Thomas Lee
My name is Thomas Lee ! My email address is thom...@clara.co.uk.
Who are you to tell me that I should not vote ?
I have done so;
From: thom...@clara.co.uk Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 19:17:56 GMT
To: ukc...@vote.ukvoting.org.uk Priority: normal
Subject: none
Cc:
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Name: [ Thomas Lee]
Are you the only Thomas :Lee allowed to use usenet ?
Thomas Lee
My name is Thomas Lee ! My email address is thom...@clara.co.uk.
Who are you to tell me that I should not vote ?
I have done so;
From: thom...@clara.co.uk Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 19:17:56 GMT
To: ukc...@vote.ukvoting.org.uk Priority: normal
Subject: none
Cc:
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Mail your ballot to ukc...@vote.ukvoting.org.uk
Ballot Id: 33f67188f283fc30
Enter your normal usenet name between the square brackets:
Name: [ Thomas Lee]
Are you the only Thomas :Lee allowed to use usenet ?
Bring out the hate
And they will *have* to count your vote.
Thomas Lee
wrote:
>On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:56:09 +0100, "Thomas Lee"
><thom...@clara.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>My name is also Thomas Lee (for 5 minutes) who are you voting for ?
What an amazing coincidence!
I'm Thomas Lee too.
Jeffrey Goldberg
On Jul 4, 2002 <thom...@clara.co.uk> wrote
in <10258162...@dyke.uk.clara.net>:
> Newsgroups: uk.net.news.config,
> alt.sports.soccer.manchester.united.scum-haters, alt.kooks,
> uk.local.yorkshire
The choice of newsgroups should make it very very clear to all that we are
not engaging with someone who seeks to make a valuable contribution to the
process. The intention is to wreck and to troll.
> My name is Thomas Lee
Doubtful, but not impossible.
> ! My email address is thom...@clara.co.uk.
>
> Who are you to tell me that I should not vote ?
>
> I have done so;
Fine. As long as you (whatever your name is, be it Thomas Lee or not)
have not voted from a different address as well. One person, one vote.
-j
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Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/
Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice
I rarely read top-posted, over-quoting or HTML postings.
Rabid
Fuck off, I'm Thomas Lee!
Allen
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Allen
"The tragedy of life is not that it ends so soon, but that we wait so
long to begin it."
Allen
after the 9/11 bombings.
I'm not really interested myself but there are a lot of people that are
being denied votes by the Committee and Uk Voting
As a principle this is wrong.
BTW the supposed vote takers and the Committee all seem to want to get
rid of this group yet want to retain the un used
uk.people.support.bullying because one of the vote takers got it formed
without a vote.
Allen
Thomas Lee wrote:
>
> On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:56:09 +0100, "Thomas Lee"
> <thom...@clara.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> My name is also Thomas Lee (for 5 minutes) who are you voting for ?
>
> --
> Thomas Lee
Allen
I also note that you want to keep the deletion of newsgroups in the
control of a small group of people like yourselves.
That is why it was posted to interested groups.
uk.net.news.config, alt.sports.soccer.manchester.united.scum-haters,
alt.kooks, uk.local.yorkshire
No wonder people like this group.
Allen
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Dave Mayall
>
> To prevent the deletion of a newsgroup about the terrorism in the US
> after the 9/11 bombings.
>
> I'm not really interested myself but there are a lot of people that are
> being denied votes by the Committee and Uk Voting
>
> As a principle this is wrong.
>
> BTW the supposed vote takers and the Committee all seem to want to get
> rid of this group yet want to retain the un used
> uk.people.support.bullying because one of the vote takers got it formed
> without a vote.
You do talk crap.
What on earth makes you think that the committee wants to get rid of
the group?
I think it should be retained, and will be voting accordingly (from
this address).
As to uk.people.support.bullying, I don't use the group, so I won't
be voting either way on any removal RFD that comes along.
Paul Bolchover
>Of couse he's not you Tommy.
>
>He's Thomas Lee, one of fifty or so in the phone book.
>
> He'll be voting in a fewelections I suppose. Check out how many LGs
>there are as well as Iain Bowens. Then have a try at Berrows G. ;-)
I'm waiting for another Paul Bolchover to vote. FYI: I'm the only one in
the UK...
Paul
Paul Bolchover
Thomas Lee <Thomas@Lee> wrote:
>
>What an amazing coincidence!
>
>I'm Thomas Lee too.
I'm Thomas Lee, and so is my wife.
Allen
Bolchover,P ,M20 ,,Manchester,
;-)
You could be a Thomas Lee or an Ashton but that would be too common ;-(
Allen
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Jeffrey Goldberg
On Jul 5, 2002 Allen <Al...@Allen.as> wrote
in <3D25253C...@Allen.as>:
> From: Allen <Al...@Allen.as>
> Newsgroups: uk.net.news.config,
> alt.sports.soccer.manchester.united.scum-haters, alt.kooks,
> uk.local.yorkshire
Note the newsgroup line.
> To prevent the deletion of a newsgroup about the terrorism in the US
> after the 9/11 bombings.
You have the option to vote. Just remember one person, one vote.
> I'm not really interested myself but there are a lot of people that are
> being denied votes by the Committee and Uk Voting
Some interested parties didn't initually see the CFV. But they have all
been made aware of it, and been told how to obtain a copy. As proponent,
my interest is to see that all of the users of the group vote. I beleive
that none of them have been denied the opportunity to vote.
There were several things that may make voting in this case more
difficult, all of which have been dealt with.
(1) The two step process (ballot request mechanism). I specifically
requested that uk-voting do this. The reason that I requested it
is because there are many "first time" users voting and the actual
choices are complicated, so I anticipated that some people might
innocently post a completed ballot. I didn't want such behavior
to invalidate the vote.
(2) The typo in the original CFV. Voters quickly brought this to my and
the votetaker's attention. The problem was quickly fixed. And
everyone who wanted a ballot got one.
(3) The CFV (like the last RFD) was posted to 6 groups. I should have
thought through the implications of this with the publication of the
2nd RFD. I blundered. I've attempted to remedy this by posting
"narrower" notices about the CFV with instructions on how to obtain
it. Those notices have all been posted to unnc with follow-ups set
to unnc. You have complained about them.
(4) The XNA header on the CFV. I consider that an anachronism. But it
is an issue that needs to be decided by UK Voting, and no change in
that policy will come quickly enough for this vote. It is currently
being discussed where it should be, in unnm.
Again, the steps I took in (3) (which you complained about) should
effectively mitigate this problem.
(5) The peculiar nature of "status quo" in this vote. I fully concure
that the group has to go through the RFD process to become permanent
and so must pass the 12+ hurdle. At least one committee member
suggested that that might not be necessary and recommended that I
seek a committee ruling. I did, and I was advised, as I fully
expected that the 12+ hurdle must be met. I also got permission
from the committee for UK voting to be able to clarify the label
"status quo" in the ballot, since the term is counter-intuitive in
this case.
In just about every message I've posted on this topic, I've sought to
explain that the removal of the group is the "default" option, and
that that option must be defeated by 12 or more votes if the group is
to be continued or replaced. Again, you have complained about me
posting that.
Your criticisms have obviously not been in good faith. They also are
without merit. It is with good reason that you are commonly known of as
"That Lying Cunt Allan".
> BTW the supposed vote takers and the Committee all seem to want to get
> rid of this group
As far as I know the vote taker is neutral. I have had nothing but support
from the committee and committee members on trying to find ways to
preseve/replace the group. As I said above, I fully concur that the group
must pass the 12+ hurdle if it is to be made permanent.
Ricard Ashton
and become a pain in the votetakers arse. Maybe I'll get his job one day.
[R]
--
Drink Pastis or Pernod - Ricard is not in favour in our house.
Dave Fawthrop
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"Ricard Ashton" <'[R]'@seminal.fluid> wrote in message
^ ^ ^^^^ ^^^^^
news:102616664...@iapetus.uk.clara.net...
| Now that I have a valid posting history, I shall vote with multiple
| sockpuppets and become a pain in the votetakers arse. Maybe I'll get
| his job one day.
Tut Tut. What a crap forgery.
Can't even get {R}s posting style right.
Dave F
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Alex Holden
<agfdhd$lipob$2...@ID-88541.news.dfncis.de>, "Dave Fawthrop"
<hyp...@hyphenologist.co.uk> called upon the throng gathered in
uk.net.news.config and wrote:
>Tut Tut. What a crap forgery.
>Can't even get {R}s posting style right.
I think that's the idea, so the poster can't be accused of
impersonation.
Still, as another poster has said, there is a clear breach of the
Claranet AUP I signed up to in November '96, and I doubt that clause has
been removed, so complaint on it's way.
Cheers,
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Alex Holden http://www.alex-holden.co.uk
Not upgrading to XP. Why? http://www.arachnoid.com/boycott
I don't speak for anybody but myself.
Paul Bolchover
>Bolchover,P ,CB5 ,,Cambridge,
That's me. And it's CB4, actually.
>Bolchover,P ,M20 ,,Manchester,
That's my uncle Peter.
You really need to do a bit more homework...
Paul Bolchover
>;-)
:-))