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SlinkyToy

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Aug 3, 2003, 12:32:51 AM8/3/03
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Well, I just yanked the 50-odd rows of my shawl. Finished the last pattern
row I worked missing some 20 stitches. Tinked back 4 rows and was still
short. Pinned the thing out on a dark towel and discovered my missing
stitches -- running merrily for the hills, so to speak.

I did save the bit of edging that was knitted first and from which the main
body of the shawl is picked up. This is the FOURTH ripping session. I'm
beginning to think that THIS yarn doesn't want to be made up with THAT
pattern. I need a pattern with a repeat that stays the same from row to row
so that I can use STITCH MARKERS, dammit!

Hrmph!


Slick Hippy Chick

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Aug 3, 2003, 12:38:28 AM8/3/03
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AWWWW!!! Poor Slinky!!! But dear, you do make me laugh!!!!!!!! Hugs, and
prayers for a successful shawl!!! Maggie
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Noreen's Knit*che

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Aug 3, 2003, 12:51:56 AM8/3/03
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Slinky, I hope you feel better! (isn't this a great place to VENT?)
Hugs,
Noreen
who is angrily trying to figure out a beautiful pattern that
mathematically will not INCREASE the way I'm imagining it should.....

SlinkyToy

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Aug 3, 2003, 12:56:18 AM8/3/03
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Well, let's have it, I may not post back tonight but I can certainly grok it
tomorrow while I'm contemplating producing a 4-layer chocolate heart attack
cake!

How many stitches do you start with, and what's rate of increase?

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Noreen's Knit*che

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Aug 3, 2003, 1:28:09 AM8/3/03
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In article <SB0Xa.144675$hV.93...@twister.austin.rr.com>,
sli...@do.fysh.not.org.spam says...

> Well, let's have it, I may not post back tonight but I can certainly grok it
> tomorrow while I'm contemplating producing a 4-layer chocolate heart attack
> cake!
>
> How many stitches do you start with, and what's rate of increase?
>
Slinky, are you sure you want to attempt this?
What I'm trying to do is incorportate a lace pattern for my cobweb
shawl...(which is going to be triangular, IF I can get this to work)
I will start with 3 stitches till I get to the pattern, where I NEED 9
stitches to begin.

Pattern is:
ALLOVER LACE PATTERN~

Multiple of 6 stitches plus 3

Row 1

K2 * yo, sl 1, k 1, psso, k 1, k 2 tog, yo, k 1 (repeat from *
across, end last repeat with k2)


Row 2

Purl


Row 3

K3 * yo, sl 1, k 2 tog, psso, yo, k 3 (repeat from * across)


Row 4

Purl


I can start in stockinette or moss/seed stitch till I have the 9 to start
the pattern rows...
but my poor brain is going ballistic in how to keep on increasing ONE on
every row and keep the pattern going till my triangle is ready to be cast
off.

I sorta had it, then LOST it.

If you CAN help, I'd be forever grateful, and humbled.

Noreen

who is now thinking about that cake!

--
Noreen's Knit*che
(Knitting, Crocheting, Tatting & BobbinLace are my NICHE in life...)
NATA #447
(my family tree is FULL of 'nuts')

Mirjam Bruck-Cohen

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Aug 3, 2003, 6:57:11 AM8/3/03
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Offffff Jeeks , canimagine the feeling
poor slinky ,,
mirjam

Katherine Burgess

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Aug 3, 2003, 8:50:20 AM8/3/03
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Slinky,
I hope that the finished product is beautiful.
Katherine

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SlinkyToy

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Aug 3, 2003, 10:14:50 AM8/3/03
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One increase EVERY row? Do a YO (or increase of your choice) after the
first stitch, or before the last stitch?

(Note, this is my off-the-cuff response before I've had coffee)

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Noreen's Knit*che

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Aug 3, 2003, 11:08:49 AM8/3/03
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In article <uN8Xa.144837$hV.94...@twister.austin.rr.com>,
sli...@do.fysh.not.org.spam says...

> One increase EVERY row? Do a YO (or increase of your choice) after the
> first stitch, or before the last stitch?
>
> (Note, this is my off-the-cuff response before I've had coffee)
>
Hi Slinky,
Yes, that's exactly right, but HOW to keep the two pattern rows
'straight' in my head as to when to start? IE: would it be ... lets
see, ummm OK; per row 1, starts with K2, so, the next time it would be
K4? And Row three, starts with K3; would it next be K6?
THAT is my dilemna, till I get the correct amount of multiples of 6 plus
3 after increasing.
I'm probably not explaining myself.... I need coffee, it's dripping as we
speak (write)
Noreen

SlinkyToy

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Aug 3, 2003, 11:17:17 AM8/3/03
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Ok, I see the problem. I'll get out some scrap yarn and needles and see if
I can work it out while I don't clean up the kitchen before I make this
chocolate cake.

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Noreen's Knit*che

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Aug 3, 2003, 11:27:13 AM8/3/03
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 10:17:17 -0500, SlinkyToy wrote:
> Ok, I see the problem. I'll get out some scrap yarn and needles
> and see if
> I can work it out while I don't clean up the kitchen before I make
> this
> chocolate cake.
>

:) thanks, Slinky.
No need to rush.
'while I don't clean up the kitchen'.... LOL!
Noreen

Noreen's Knit*che
(Knitting, Crocheting, Tatting & BobbinLace are my NICHE in life...)
NATA #447

(my family tree is FULL of 'nuts'!)


 

SlinkyToy

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Aug 3, 2003, 11:31:38 AM8/3/03
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Oh, something else to do is to get out graph paper and play with the pattern
repeat.

First chart the outline of the shawl (ie, CO, border increases) until it is
as big as you want it to be.

Then start fitting in the pattern repeat. Center the first repeat over the
point of the shawl and keep fitting more and more repeats in across the
width as space permits.

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Noreen's Knit*che

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Aug 3, 2003, 11:57:11 AM8/3/03
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In article <uV9Xa.144844$hV.94...@twister.austin.rr.com>,
sli...@do.fysh.not.org.spam says...

> Oh, something else to do is to get out graph paper and play with the pattern
> repeat.
>
> First chart the outline of the shawl (ie, CO, border increases) until it is
> as big as you want it to be.
>
> Then start fitting in the pattern repeat. Center the first repeat over the
> point of the shawl and keep fitting more and more repeats in across the
> width as space permits.
>

Ahah! That sounds like a plan, even if I do detest charts, I think your
suggestion IS the answer.
Either that, or I'll just make a rectangular shawl after all...
noreen

NoraBalcer

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Aug 3, 2003, 5:09:16 PM8/3/03
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Slinky,

After all the times you have frogged that yarn, I do agree with you, I think
you should use it for something else.

Hugs,

Nora

Helen "Halla" Fleischer

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Aug 3, 2003, 5:21:33 PM8/3/03
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Sounds like a job for lifelines! Maybe it's already been suggested. I
haven't read all the replies yet, but take this as an added voice if it is.
Run a smooth thread such as dental floss through the last good row, while
it's on the needle. Move it up or add a fresh one every repeat or every
5-10 rows if it's a long, nasty repeat. Then if you drop a stitch it will
only run down to the latest lifeline, and if it's a major disaster, you can
just follow the line through with your needle to re-hang after ripping.

helen...@covad.net
Helen "Halla" Fleischer,
Fantasy & Fiber Artist in Fairland, MD USA
http://home.covad.net/~drgandalf/halla/

Shillelagh

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Aug 3, 2003, 9:25:43 PM8/3/03
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Awwww Slinky - I know just how you feel. I was knitting a shawl in fine
mohair, different colours, and decided I didn't like it.... so I ripped the
darn thing out. Now I just have balls of yarn again.

Now, I'm thinking of using up some other yarn and crocheting an afghan
instead. I think I'll let the mohair rest for a while.

Shelagh


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Mirjam Bruck-Cohen

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Aug 3, 2003, 9:32:52 PM8/3/03
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Chocolate cake is not good fopr your figure anyway
mirjam

Molvik Family

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Aug 3, 2003, 10:07:52 PM8/3/03
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Maybe the yarn just needs to "cure" for a little while longer before being
used? Just a thought <grin>

JJMolvik


SlinkyToy

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Aug 3, 2003, 10:49:20 PM8/3/03
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Doubtful, it was aging in the stash for about 2 years before it asked to
come out and be knitted. Pesky stuff, now it doesn't want to knit up as a
basic rectangle with an easy pattern.

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Els van Dam

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Aug 4, 2003, 2:13:07 PM8/4/03
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In article <1I9Xa.144843$hV.94...@twister.austin.rr.com>, "SlinkyToy"
<sli...@do.fysh.not.org.spam> wrote:

> Ok, I see the problem. I'll get out some scrap yarn and needles and see if
> I can work it out while I don't clean up the kitchen before I make this
> chocolate cake.


Oh boy I can see chocolate and stiches mixed together........and you
better have your coffee first.......

We tend to thrive on doing ten things at the same time.......LOL this
pattern and the drinking of coffee and the making of the cake is more than
ten things at the same time.....

Els

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Els van Dam

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Aug 4, 2003, 2:14:44 PM8/4/03
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In article <02vqivocamqpns5sv...@4ax.com>,
helen...@covad.net wrote:

> Sounds like a job for lifelines! Maybe it's already been suggested. I
> haven't read all the replies yet, but take this as an added voice if it is.
> Run a smooth thread such as dental floss through the last good row, while
> it's on the needle. Move it up or add a fresh one every repeat or every
> 5-10 rows if it's a long, nasty repeat. Then if you drop a stitch it will
> only run down to the latest lifeline, and if it's a major disaster, you can
> just follow the line through with your needle to re-hang after ripping.

that sounds like a super idea.....I have to make a note of it.

Els


>
> | On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 04:32:51 GMT, "SlinkyToy"
<sli...@do.fysh.not.org.spam> wrote:
>
> >Well, I just yanked the 50-odd rows of my shawl. Finished the last pattern
> >row I worked missing some 20 stitches. Tinked back 4 rows and was still
> >short. Pinned the thing out on a dark towel and discovered my missing
> >stitches -- running merrily for the hills, so to speak.
> >
> >I did save the bit of edging that was knitted first and from which the main
> >body of the shawl is picked up. This is the FOURTH ripping session. I'm
> >beginning to think that THIS yarn doesn't want to be made up with THAT
> >pattern. I need a pattern with a repeat that stays the same from row to row
> >so that I can use STITCH MARKERS, dammit!
> >
> >Hrmph!
> >
>
> helen...@covad.net
> Helen "Halla" Fleischer,
> Fantasy & Fiber Artist in Fairland, MD USA
> http://home.covad.net/~drgandalf/halla/

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Els van Dam

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Aug 4, 2003, 2:16:04 PM8/4/03
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In article <3f2db77...@news.actcom.net.il>, mir...@actcom.co.il
(Mirjam Bruck-Cohen) wrote:

> Chocolate cake is not good fopr your figure anyway
> mirjam
> k...@do.fysh.not.org.spam> wrote:

Never mind it is good for the soul and that is what we need with problems
like this.....I am drooling

already

Els

Molvik Family

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Aug 4, 2003, 2:52:49 PM8/4/03
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Well, maybe it just needs a new home? <VBG>


JJMolvik


SlinkyToy

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Aug 4, 2003, 3:24:47 PM8/4/03
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Maybe so...

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Helen "Halla" Fleischer

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| On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 11:14:44 -0700, jacob...@coastnet.com (Els van Dam) wrote:

>> Sounds like a job for lifelines! Maybe it's already been suggested. I
>> haven't read all the replies yet, but take this as an added voice if it is.
>> Run a smooth thread such as dental floss through the last good row, while
>> it's on the needle. Move it up or add a fresh one every repeat or every
>> 5-10 rows if it's a long, nasty repeat. Then if you drop a stitch it will
>> only run down to the latest lifeline, and if it's a major disaster, you can
>> just follow the line through with your needle to re-hang after ripping.
>
>that sounds like a super idea.....I have to make a note of it.
>
>Els

I know I did, because I read it first here. I think I even saved the
message. I didn't re-file it under a new subject name to make it easy to
find, alas, so it might take me up to an hour to figure out who the real
genius was! Maybe she's here and will fess up! ;)

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