Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

DPC at it again!

2 views
Skip to first unread message

NotToDumb

unread,
Jun 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/15/99
to
This is the Beta test agreement for 2.1.
Read item 8.

Read item 8.

>DirecPC BETA LICENSE AGREEMENT
>
>
>
>THIS IS A LEGAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN YOU, THE END USER, AND HUGHES NETWORK SYSTEMS. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT, PROMPTLY RETURN THE HARDWARE, DISKS AND ACCOMPANYING ITEMS TO HUGHES NETWORK SYSTEMS AND/OR DO NOT INSTALL THE HARDWARE OR DOWNLOAD THE SOFTWARE FROM OUR SITE AND/OR DO NOT INSTALL THE SOFTWARE.
>
>1. Grant of License
>
>Hughes Network Systems (hereinafter referred to as "DirecPC") grants to you a personal, non-exclusive, non-assignable, non-transferable license, without right to sublicense, distribute or modify, for you to use the enclosed software and related documentation as delivered by DirecPC only at one location for testing and evaluation. DirecPC also grants you the right to install the hardware as delivered by DirecPC at the same location for testing and evaluation (such software and hardware shall collectively be referred to as "Product’"). If the terms of this License Agreement are violated, DirecPC immediately terminates said license and the customer is subject to the liability of any harm done to DirecPC.
>
>2. Title
>
>Title, ownership rights, intellectual property rights in and to the Product shall remain in DirecPC and/or its suppliers. DirecPC retains all rights, title, and ownership of the Product and all subsequent full or partial copies and derivatives of the Product, made by you or DirecPC, including translations, compilations, partial copies, modifications, updates and know-how in connection there with, regardless of the form or media in or on which the same may exist. This agreement is not a sale of the Product or any copy or derivative. You shall have no right to reproduce any full or partial copies of the Product. You agree not to take any steps, such as reverse assembly or reverse compilation, to derive a source code equivalent of any software contained in the Product. You also agree to destroy licensed data in all forms upon termination of said license.
>
>3. Confidentiality
>
>You agree that the Product, and other information, technical data, or know-how (including documentation) related to the Product (including the existence of the Product and the results of use or testing), shall be considered Confidential Information of DirecPC. You agree to protect the confidentiality of all Confidential Information of DirecPC, and not to disclose the Confidential Information to any other party without the written permission of DirecPC. Unauthorized use or disclosure of the Product may cause irreparable harm to DirecPC. You agree promptly to report any unauthorized use or disclosure to DirecPC.
>
>4. Warranty Exclusion
>
>YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PRODUCT IS A PRE-RELEASE VERSION ONLY AND IS STILL UNDERGOING TESTING AT DIRECPC. THE PRODUCT IS PROVIDED "AS IS". THERE ARE NO WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, UNDER THIS AGREEMENT. DIRECPC DISCLAIMS ANY IMPLIED WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR PARTICULAR PURPOSE. DIRECPC MAKES NO REPRESENTATION ABOUT ANY CONTENT OR INFORMATION MADE ACCESSIBLE BY THE PRODUCT.
>
>5. Limitation of Liability
>
>NEITHER DIRECPC NOR ANY OF ITS INFORMATION OR CONTENT PROVIDERS, SERVICE PROVIDERS, LICENSORS, EMPLOYEES OR AGENTS SHALL BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, PUNITIVE OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF USE OF THE PRODUCT OR INABILITY TO USE THE PRODUCT OR OUT OF ANY BREACH OR ANY REPRESENTATION OR WARRANTY. WITHOUT IN ANY WAY LIMITING THE FOREGOING, IF FOR ANY REASON, BY OPERATION OF LAW OR OTHERWISE, ANY PORTION OF THE FOREGOING LIMITATION OF LIABILITY SHALL BE VOIDED, THEN IN SUCH EVENT THE MAXIMUM, SOLE, AND EXCLUSIVE LIABILITY OF DIRECPC, ITS DEALERS, DISTRIBUTORS, AGENTS, EMPLOYEES OR THIRD PARTY CONTENT PROVIDER, IF ANY, SHALL BE LIMITED TO GENERAL MONEY DAMAGES IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED THE TOTAL AMOUNT ACTUALLY PAID TO DIRECPC BY YOU FOR THE PRODUCT FURNISHED UNDER THIS AGREEMENT.
>
>6. Proprietary Rights Exclusion
>
>DirecPC makes no representation or warranty that the Product, or products developed using the Product, do not infringe any proprietary rights of any third parties. You shall assume sole responsibility for any such infringement.
>
>7. Intent
>
>While DirecPC intends to distribute a commercial release of the Product, DirecPC reserves the right at any time not to release a commercial release of the Product or, if released, to alter prices, features, specifications, capabilities, functions, licensing terms, release dates, general availability or other characteristics of the commercial release.
>
>8. Indemnification.
>
>You hereby agree to indemnify, defend and hold DirecPC harmless from and against any and all claims, actions, suits, liabilities, judgments, losses, damages, attorneys' fees and other expenses of every nature and character by reason of this Agreement or use by you of products utilizing the Product.
>
>9. Export Restrictions
>
>You shall not export, directly or indirectly, any Product or products developed using the Product to any country for which the laws of the United States or the regulations of any U.S. agency requires an export license or other governmental approval, without first obtaining such license or approval. You shall strictly comply with all such restrictions. You agree to indemnify and hold DirecPC harmless against all losses, damages, penalties, or causes of action resulting from a violation of this Section.
>
>10. Termination
>
>DirecPC may terminate this Agreement at any time by delivering a notice to you. Upon termination of this Agreement, or in any event within thirty days following DirecPC’s release of a commercial version of the Product, you agree to return, destroy or erase this Product, as requested by DirecPC. In the event of termination, the following sections of this License shall survive 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11 and 12. .
>
>11. Incorporation
>
>Except as modified herein in connection with the Product, your rights and obligations in connection with the service continues to be governed by the Subscriber Agreement made by and between you and DirecPC.
>
>12. Governing Law
>
>The validity, performance, construction and interpretation of this Agreement shall be governed by laws of the state of Maryland, United States of America, excluding its conflicts of laws rules.
>
>
>
>Should you have any questions concerning this Agreement, please write to:
>
>Hughes Network Systems, Director of Contracts, 11717 Exploration Lane, Germantown, MD 20876, USA.


Frank St. Claire

unread,
Jun 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/16/99
to
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:06:21 GMT, DPCS...@ByteMe.com (NotToDumb)
wrote:

>This is the Beta test agreement for 2.1.
>Read item 8.

Okay, time for another parody translation (The Stars are losing anyhow
...)
>
>
>>DirecPC BETA LICENSE AGREEMENT

(All our software is beta -- we now want to see how far we can go with
beta licensing agreements.)


>>
>>
>>
>>THIS IS A LEGAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN YOU, THE END USER, AND HUGHES NETWORK SYSTEMS.

(At least, that's what we want you to believe until we breach the
agreement ala FAP etc.)

>>IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT, PROMPTLY RETURN THE HARDWARE,

(Use a crowbar to get that salad bowl off your roof or spend even more
money)

>>DISKS AND ACCOMPANYING ITEMS

(Including the Excedrin and tranquilizers that are shipped as standard
issue with every system now)

>>TO HUGHES NETWORK SYSTEMS AND/OR

(we only use a P.O. Box now)

>>DO NOT INSTALL THE HARDWARE

(You will thank us in the morning when you sober up)

>>OR DOWNLOAD THE SOFTWARE FROM OUR SITE AND/OR

(and with FAP, good luck!)

>>DO NOT INSTALL THE SOFTWARE.

(If you do, you will find how bad it is)

>>
>>1. Grant of License
>>
>>Hughes Network Systems (hereinafter referred to as "DirecPC")

(hereinafter referred to as the "FAPPOR")

>>grants to you

(the "FAPPEE")

>>a personal, non-exclusive, non-assignable, non-transferable license,

(a useless, worthless, nonfunctional, unsupported,
dare-you-to-try-to-use-it) "opportunity"

>> without right to sublicense, distribute or modify,

(all of which might subject you to the same charges of fraud and
misrepresentation that we now face)

>>for you to use the enclosed software and related documentation

(and we use the terms loosely)

>>as delivered by DirecPC

(by carrier pigeon, for reliability)

>> only at one location for testing and evaluation.

(we don't want the word to get out)

>>DirecPC also grants you the right to install the hardware

(LOL)

>> as delivered by DirecPC

(nonfunctional)

>>at the same location for testing and evaluation

(no shotguns allowed that might harm the hardware, post installation)

>> (such software and hardware shall collectively be referred to as "Product’").

(the "POS")

>>If the terms of this License Agreement are violated,

(particularly if by DirecPC)

>>DirecPC immediately terminates said license

(You won't notice any difference)

>>and the customer is subject to the liability of any harm done to DirecPC.

(As if that were possible, given our sterling reputation for service,
truthfulness and caring for our customers)

>>
>>2. Title
>>
>>Title, ownership rights, intellectual property rights

(intellectual, as in Lil Houstoners)

>in and to the Product shall remain in DirecPC and/or

(we couldn't get rid of it if we tried)

>>its suppliers. DirecPC retains all rights, title, and ownership of the Product and all subsequent full or partial copies and derivatives of the Product, made by you or DirecPC, including translations, compilations, partial copies, modifications, updates and know-how in connection there with, regardless of the form or media in or on which the same may exist. This agreement is not a sale of the Product or any copy or derivative. You shall have no right to reproduce any full or partial copies of the Product
. You agree not to take any steps, such as reverse assembly or reverse compilation, to derive a source code equivalent of any software contained in the Product. You also agree to destroy licensed data in all forms upon termination of said license.

(Randull)

>>3. Confidentiality

(Shhhhsshhh!)

>>You agree that the Product,

(POS)

>> and other information,

(misinformation)

>> technical data,

(how poorly it works)

>> or know-how

(See Lil Houstoner, above)

>>(including documentation)

(can't find it?)

>>related to the Product

(the POS)

>> (including the existence of the Product

(It's a secret!)

>> and the results of use or testing),

(we really want that to be a secret)

>> shall be considered Confidential Information of DirecPC.

(along with Pradman's home phone number)

>>You agree to protect the confidentiality of all Confidential Information of DirecPC,

(how badly the performance suffers with FAP)

>> and not to disclose the Confidential Information to any other party

(You'll need a party after all the frustration)

>> without the written permission of DirecPC.

(which we sure as hell will not give)

>> Unauthorized use

(as a banquet salad bowl or as a birdbath)

>> or disclosure of the Product may cause irreparable harm to DirecPC.

(we might get sued again)

>>You agree promptly to report any unauthorized use or disclosure to DirecPC.

(that would include any attempted downloading)


>>
>>4. Warranty Exclusion
>>
>>YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PRODUCT IS A PRE-RELEASE VERSION ONLY

(IDENTICAL TO THE POS WE WILL LATER RELEASE)

>> AND IS STILL UNDERGOING TESTING AT DIRECPC.

(IF WE COULD EVER FIGURE OUT WHICH WAY THE CDROM GOES IN THE COFFEE
CUP HOLDER)

>> THE PRODUCT IS PROVIDED "AS IS".

(WHO SAID WE NEVER TELL THE TRUTH?)

>>THERE ARE NO WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED,

(WATCH OUR LIPS MOVE, THOUGH)

>> UNDER THIS AGREEMENT.

(WE USE THE TERM LOOSELY)

>> DIRECPC DISCLAIMS ANY IMPLIED WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY

(RANDULL IS OUR STANDARD OF MERCHANTABILITY)

>> OR FITNESS FOR PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

(OR FOR ANY PURPOSE)

>> DIRECPC MAKES NO REPRESENTATION ABOUT ANY CONTENT OR INFORMATION

(WE CAN LIE WITH IMPUGNITY)

>> MADE ACCESSIBLE BY THE PRODUCT.

(IF IT EVER WORKS IN THE FIRST PLACE)

>>
>>5. Limitation of Liability
>>
>>NEITHER DIRECPC NOR ANY OF ITS INFORMATION OR CONTENT PROVIDERS,

(AS IF WE HAD ANY CONTENT WORTH BEANS)

>> SERVICE PROVIDERS,

(WE USE THE TERM LOOSELY)

>> LICENSORS, EMPLOYEES OR AGENTS

(CO-CONSPIRATORS)

>> SHALL BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, PUNITIVE
>>OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES

(THE BART SIMPSON DEFENSE -- "I DIDN"T DO IT AND BESIDES YOU CAN"T
PROVE I DID)

>>ARISING OUT OF USE OF THE PRODUCT

(INCLUDING AS A BANQUET SALAD BOWL)

>> OR INABILITY TO USE THE PRODUCT

(OUR STANDARD LEVEL)

>>OR OUT OF ANY BREACH OR ANY REPRESENTATION OR WARRANTY.

(WE CAN LIE AND GET AWAY WITH IT)

>>WITHOUT IN ANY WAY LIMITING THE FOREGOING,

(IN CASE WE MISSED ANYTHING)

>> IF FOR ANY REASON, BY OPERATION OF LAW OR OTHERWISE,

(A CLASS ACTION JUDGMENT, FOR EXAMPLE)

>> ANY PORTION OF THE FOREGOING LIMITATION OF LIABILITY

(ANY PORTION OF OUR CYA)

>> SHALL BE VOIDED,

(WE GET CAUGHT)

>>THEN IN SUCH EVENT

(THE INEVITABLE)

>> THE MAXIMUM, SOLE, AND EXCLUSIVE LIABILITY

(SELF-SERVING ATTEMPT AT EXCULPATION FROM KNOWING CULPABILITY)

>> OF DIRECPC, ITS DEALERS, DISTRIBUTORS, AGENTS, EMPLOYEES

(CO-CONSPIRATORS)

>> OR THIRD PARTY CONTENT PROVIDER, IF ANY,

(LOL)

>> SHALL BE LIMITED TO GENERAL MONEY DAMAGES

(NO WAR CRIMES TRIBUNALS, PLEASE!)

>> IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED THE TOTAL AMOUNT ACTUALLY PAID TO DIRECPC
>> BY YOU FOR THE PRODUCT FURNISHED UNDER THIS AGREEMENT.

(IF WE GET CAUGHT LYING< STEALING OR CHEATING YOU AND YOU PROVE IT IN
COURT, THE MOST WE HAVE TO DO IS GIVE YOU BACK THE MONEY WE STOLE FROM
YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE -- WE CALL IT A CONTRACT OF ADHESION)


>>
>>6. Proprietary Rights Exclusion
>>
>>DirecPC makes no representation or warranty that the Product,

(In case you missed all our other disclaimers)

>> or products developed using the Product,

(coronaries, high blood pressure, violent acts and mutilations of our
dishes)

>> do not infringe any proprietary rights of any third parties.

(we may have stolen somebody else's product)

> You shall assume sole responsibility for any such infringement.

(and we want you to be responsible)

>>
>>7. Intent
>>
>>While DirecPC intends to distribute a commercial release of the Product,

(If we could ever come up with something that is of commercial
quality)

>> DirecPC reserves the right at any time not to release a commercial release of the Product

(We have been consistent so far)

>> or, if released, to alter prices, features, specifications, capabilities, functions,
>> licensing terms, release dates, general availability or other characteristics of the commercial release.

(In other words, we can lie like a dog!)


>>
>>8. Indemnification.
>>
>>You hereby agree to indemnify, defend and hold DirecPC harmless
>> from and against any and all claims, actions, suits, liabilities, judgments, losses,
>> damages, attorneys' fees and other expenses of every nature and character
>> by reason of this Agreement or use by you of products utilizing the Product.

(Don't bl;ame us for this POS. Blame yourself for believing us in the
first place)


>>
>>9. Export Restrictions
>>
>>You shall not export, directly or indirectly, any Product or products developed using the Product
>> to any country for which the laws of the United States or the regulations of any U.S. agency
>> requires an export license or other governmental approval, without first obtaining
>> such license or approval. You shall strictly comply with all such restrictions.

(Just forget about our sale of rocket technology to the Chinese)

>> You agree to indemnify and hold DirecPC harmless against all losses, damages,
>> penalties, or causes of action resulting from a violation of this Section.

(Don't you get it yet? Whatever the problem is, it's YOUR FAULT.
That's our story and we are sticking to it)


>>
>>10. Termination
>>
>>DirecPC may terminate

(breach)

>> this Agreement at any time by delivering a notice to you.

(You don't have any such rights -- just the right to keep paying us
money)

>> Upon termination of this Agreement,

(In our sole discretion, when we are tired of taking your money)

>> or in any event within thirty days following DirecPC’s release of a commercial version of the Product,

(That would be when hell freezes over, but we reserve the right to
call it "commercial, anyway)

>> you agree to return, destroy or erase this Product,

(burn, mutilate, shoot, smash ...)

> as requested by DirecPC.

(we try to be nonviolent)

> In the event of termination, the following sections of this License shall survive 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11 and 12. .

(Anything that limits our liability or allows us to misrepresent the
product)


>>
>>11. Incorporation
>>
>>Except as modified herein in connection with the Product, your rights

(you have none)

>>and obligations

(you have all of them)

>> in connection with the service

(we use the term loosely)

>> continues to be governed by the Subscriber Agreement made by and between you and DirecPC.

(Our ability to FAP the daylights out of you when ever we choose)

>>12. Governing Law
>>
>>The validity,

(we use the term loosely)

>> performance,

(we don't know the meaning of the term)

>> construction and interpretation of this Agreement

(we are already working on our interpretation -- see Bart Simpson
Defense above)

>>shall be governed by laws of the state of Maryland, United States of America,

(unless we flee the country)

> excluding its conflicts of laws rules.

(or conflicts in what we say and what we actually deliver)

>>Should you have any questions concerning this Agreement, please write to:
>>
>>Hughes Network Systems, Director of Contracts, 11717 Exploration Lane, Germantown, MD 20876, USA.

(We will be just as responsive, truthful and honest with these
inquiries as we have to all your past inquiries, honest!)


As mentioned above, this is a parody. Any resemblance to reality is
more than coincidence ....

David Graham

unread,
Jun 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/16/99
to

Honest Joe wrote:


>
> DPCS...@ByteMe.com (NotToDumb) wrote:
>
> >This is the Beta test agreement for 2.1.
> >Read item 8.
>

> These people are the lowest of the low.. Cowards that resort to these
> words in an effort to cover their ways..
>
> Shameful..

Well, Joe, I believe I could understand how they (DPC) might feel about
taking a chance on something so wondrous as NewsCast falling into the
hands of an unsavory type person .. that might want to throw some dirt
over the POS without saying a prayer first...

I still remember that sneaky assed FAP agreement in the DPC 1.6 beta ..
that said we were subject even if we uninstalled it and returned to a
prior version .. even if it didn't work .. even if we downloaded it and
couldn't install it .. even if they didn't use it .. even if anything ..
were FAP screwed if we download it .. probably got screwed for reading
the page it was on too ..

Shameful is right .. shameful .. pathetic cowardly critters .. if they
croaked I'd just sprinkle a little lime on 'em for health reasons ..
some things just don't deserve burial in the mother earth ..

>
> >
> >>8. Indemnification.
> >>
> >>You hereby agree to indemnify, defend and hold DirecPC harmless from and against any
> >>and all claims, actions, suits, liabilities, judgments, losses, damages, attorneys' fees and
> >>other expenses of every nature and character by reason of this Agreement or use by
> >> you of products utilizing the Product.

--
David Graham <grab...@sig.net>

W

unread,
Jun 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/16/99
to
I have been running 2.1 for about a month with no problems at all. I have had the new version of Netscape blow up on me once though.
nosoaposiris.vcf

David Graham

unread,
Jun 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/19/99
to
I'll bet Joe read the preFAP agreement he had with DirecPC better than
you did.

As far as getting a life, Joe already has one but .. if you can please
show me where to get one, I sure would appreciate it .. could you loan
me yours? ... could I get a heart too? .. and maybe a brain while we're
at it .. I lost most all of mine when I got DPC ..

.. but I had just enough left to sue the bloody ham-ass swine bastards
right up their backwater goat pockets .. please see my tag line ..

.. I just hope that don't bother the Lil'HouTechs too much tonight ..

David

Alabaddin Naseem wrote:
>
> Get a life! Obviously you have never read a "agreement" for any of the
> software you have on your machine or else you would realize this is
> just par for the course. Heh, I'm sure every company out there sends
> out encouragement in the service agreement giving license to sue the
> pants off of them..
>
> Wed, 16 Jun 1999 03:36:10 GMT, J...@Joes.Used.Auto.Sales (Honest Joe)
> wrote:


>
> >DPCS...@ByteMe.com (NotToDumb) wrote:
> >
> >>This is the Beta test agreement for 2.1.
> >>Read item 8.
> >

> >These people are the lowest of the low.. Cowards that resort to these
> >words in an effort to cover their ways..
> >
> >
> >Shameful..
> >
> >>

> >>>8. Indemnification.
> >>>
> >>>You hereby agree to indemnify, defend and hold DirecPC harmless from and against any
> >>>and all claims, actions, suits, liabilities, judgments, losses, damages, attorneys' fees and
> >>>other expenses of every nature and character by reason of this Agreement or use by
> >>> you of products utilizing the Product.
> >

--
David Graham <grab...@sig.net>


--

*** BREAKING NEWS ***
Class-action lawsuit filed against Hughes Network Systems / DirecPC!
Here is a pdf version of the complaint filed in Montgomery County,
MD against HNS. July 10, 1998 <http://208.240.252.169/direcpc>

Contact:
Brian Hufford (or his legal assistant: John Webber)
Pomerantz Haudek Block Grossman & Gross
100 Park Avenue
New York, New York 10017
(212) 661-1100
(888) 476-6529 (toll free)
(212) 661-8665 (fax)
dbhu...@pomlaw.com or jewe...@pomlaw.com

Also search DejaNews on the above and this example:
Author: DBH1959
Email: dbh...@aol.com
Date: 1998/07/14
Forums: alt.satellite.direcpc

Visit alt.satellite.direcpc for the truth & these fine Web Sites for more
information:

<http://www.harborhi.com/direcpc> <http://charon.punk.net/fap/fap.html>
<http://www.web-access.net/~mikeb/direcpc.htm>
<http://www.neuroflux.net/~direcpc>
<http://www.wojo.com/direcpc/news.html>

http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/news/0713/14esuit.html (07148) (said, Dave
Zatlowkal, vice president of DirecPC services at Hughes) (said, Brian
Hufford, an attorney at Pomerantz, Haudek, Block, Grossman and Gross,
the New York firm that is handling the case)

http://www.pcworld.com/pcwtoday/article/0%2C1510%2C7403%2C00.html#
(07138) (said, Dave Zatloukal, assistant vice president of DirecPC)

http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19980324S0020 (said, Fritz
Stolzenbach, senior marketing specialist at Hughes)

http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/news/0323/26mfap.html ( said, Dave
Zatlowkal, vice president of DirecPC services at Hughes)

http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/content/inwk/0513/305387.html (said, DirecPC
General Manager Paul Gaske)

http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/content/pcwk/1515/305862.html
http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/story/story_2607.html> (Title: Stinko
Products We Despise by Jesse Berst - ZDNet)

And see: <http://www.direcpc.com> for less truth.

"Direcpc is a fine Rube Goldberg contraption for
complicating the same thing you can do with a modem" --Dave

"You and all the other users of DirecPC have a very nice day.
DirecPC, you just have a day. " --Dave

"With DirecPC, Plug and Pray is here to stay." -- David

"At $49.95, DirecPC is now priced nearer its worth as a second modem.
Comparable price; comparable service. I use it and now I can recommend
it, once again." -- David

See: <http://www.sat-more.com/direcpc.htm> and
<http://www.sat-more.com/order_form.htm> to purchase on-line.
>>>>-----> $49.95 for a complete new DirecPC setup <-----<<<<
... temp out of stock, hope there will be more at this price later ... dg

Alabaddin Naseem

unread,
Jun 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/20/99
to
Get a life! Obviously you have never read a "agreement" for any of the
software you have on your machine or else you would realize this is
just par for the course. Heh, I'm sure every company out there sends
out encouragement in the service agreement giving license to sue the
pants off of them..

Wed, 16 Jun 1999 03:36:10 GMT, J...@Joes.Used.Auto.Sales (Honest Joe)
wrote:

>DPCS...@ByteMe.com (NotToDumb) wrote:
>
>>This is the Beta test agreement for 2.1.
>>Read item 8.
>

>These people are the lowest of the low.. Cowards that resort to these
>words in an effort to cover their ways..
>
>
>Shameful..
>
>>

Goober

unread,
Jun 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/20/99
to

Honest Joe wrote in message <376f2354...@192.168.0.1>...
>plo...@the.farm (dave) wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:02:26 GMT, J...@Joes.Used.Auto.Sales (Honest
>>Joe) wrote:

>>
>>>Cip...@toaster.net (Alabaddin Naseem) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Get a life! Obviously you have never read a "agreement" for any of the
>>>>software you have on your machine or else you would realize this is
>>>>just par for the course. Heh, I'm sure every company out there sends
>>>>out encouragement in the service agreement giving license to sue the
>>>>pants off of them..
>>>>
>>>
>>>Well, Mr Maggot, this is *not* par for the course.. I've read *many*
>>>service agreements that never had this type of clause.. They didn't
>>>need them..
>>>
>>> Just for your information, you buffoonish ament, this section
>>>would never hold up in court, just as *many* stipulations made in
>>>*many* service agreements from *many* companies wouldn't either..
>>>You do know that, right?? Mr Perry Alabaddin Naseem Mason..
>>>
>>> Now, why don't you take your asinine comments, your
>>>half-witted "logic", and your lobotomized legalese, and go back to
>>>your job as a direcpc "tech" support loser..
>>>
>>> That would be the only place a dim-witted deviate, such as
>>>yourself, could justify your existence..
>>
>>
>>LOL!!!
>>
>>Are you sure? He's definitely being groomed for upper management
>>at Hughes: Ability to type lies, will train to speak.
>
> You have a point.. As long as he has *no* technical
>wherewithal, he's a shoe in.. <g>.. Pretty much the same
>qualifications as "tech" support..
>

Ah, but can he say "Have you tried reloading the software" with a Hindi
accent? That is one of the main job requirements. ;o)

Regards,

Dan

(SPAMMED one too many times, {sigh} My e-mail has been altered to foil
spambots!)
Use the below e-mail address to respond
MY_HOA_R_J...@usa.net
(remove MY_HOA_R_JERKS to reply)

David Graham

unread,
Jun 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/20/99
to

I've wished I could talk like that character in that movie where the guy
befriends a robot in the big muckamuck research place and sets him free.
I'm sure y'all don't watch kid stuff like me. .. it was several years
ago now and I think they made a sequel y'all didn't see either. <g>
Anyhow, I could talk to Alok Mutter in billing then and find out what's
going on in Gaithersburg, India, USA.


>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
>
> (SPAMMED one too many times, {sigh} My e-mail has been altered to foil
> spambots!)
> Use the below e-mail address to respond
> MY_HOA_R_J...@usa.net
> (remove MY_HOA_R_JERKS to reply)

--
David Graham <grab...@sig.net>

Frank St. Claire

unread,
Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
to
On Sun, 20 Jun 1999 02:17:47 GMT, Cip...@toaster.net (Alabaddin
Naseem) wrote:

>Get a life! Obviously you have never read a "agreement" for any of the
>software you have on your machine or else you would realize this is
>just par for the course. Heh, I'm sure every company out there sends
>out encouragement in the service agreement giving license to sue the
>pants off of them..
>

The name plus the attitude makes me think Alabaddin must be a Lil
Houstoner -- the intelligence level is about the same in both
(non-existent).

phad...@my-deja.com

unread,
Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
to
In article <376C67C0...@sig.net>,

David Graham <grab...@sig.net> wrote:
> I'll bet Joe read the preFAP agreement he had with DirecPC better than
> you did.
>
> As far as getting a life, Joe already has one but .. if you can please
> show me where to get one, I sure would appreciate it .. could you loan
> me yours? ... could I get a heart too? .. and maybe a brain while
we're
> at it .. I lost most all of mine when I got DPC ..
>
> .. but I had just enough left to sue the bloody ham-ass swine bastards
> right up their backwater goat pockets .. please see my tag line ..
>
> .. I just hope that don't bother the Lil'HouTechs too much tonight ..
>
> David
>
I'm sure you won't have to worry about the "Lil'HouTechs" too much
longer - won't it be an exciting time when it gets better later on.
Don't want to give away any details but I think David here will be
pondering on another one of those witty delightful condescending remarks
that make him such a standard bearer for his cause. Bravo David bravo.
Your troops stand at your beck and call.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

phad...@my-deja.com

unread,
Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
to
In article
<CD1B8EE9094B77E1.ECBDCBAB...@lp.airnews.net>,

Only a fool would strike at someone's name and their opinion. Which only
makes me believe that the reason this forum doesn't get more
"intelligent" posts is due to the fact that Mr.St.Claire has nothing
better to do - call it anger management - maybe he's tired of beating on
his wife - or he was born premature with a serious deficiency and now he
needs to strike out at the world by hiding behind his computer.
Anyhow, this base would be alot more helpful if you found ways to aid
one another - and maybe - just maybe someone will take you serious for a
change - and work hand in hand with you. Its not an impossible dream but
at least it would be a start. Other than that, this forum is useless.

Darrel Toepfer

unread,
Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
to
phad...@my-deja.com wrote...

STANDARDIZED TROLL REPLY FORM
(c) copyright 1999 by someone else.

(check all boxes that apply)

Dear:

[x] Clueless Newbie [x] Lamer [x] Flamer
[x] Loser [ ] Spammer [x] Troller
[ ] "Me too" er [x] Pervert [ ] Geek
[x] Stupid [ ] Nerd [ ] Elvis
[x] Racist [ ] Fed [x] Freak
[ ] Fundamentalist [ ] Satanist [ ] Homeopath
[ ] Transvestite [x] Moron [x] Pest
[x] Idiot [x] Maggot
[x] Unbearably self-righteous person

I took exception to your recent:

[ ] Email [x] Post to (newsgroup)

It was (check all that apply):

[x] Lame [x] Stupid [x] Abusive
[x] Clueless [x] Idiotic [x] Brain-damaged
[ ] Imbecilic [x] Arrogant [ ] Malevolent
[x] Contemptible [x] Libelous [x] Ignorant
[x] Witless [x] Moronic [ ] Fundamentalist
[x] Boring [x] Dim [x] Cowardly
[x] Deceitful [x] Demented [x] Self-righteous
[x] Crazy [x] Weird [x] Hypocritical
[x] Loathsome [ ] Satanic [x] Despicable
[x] Belligerent [x] Mind-numbing [x] Maladroit
[x] Much longer than any worthwhile thought of which you may be
capable.


Your attention is drawn to the fact that:

[x] You posted what should have been emailed
[ ] You obviously don't know how to read your newsgroups line
[ ] You are trying to make money on a non-commercial newsgroup
[ ] You self-righteously impose your religious beliefs on others
[x] You self-righteously impose your racial beliefs on others
[ ] You posted a binary in a non-binaries group
[x] You don't know which group to post in
[x] You posted something totally uninteresting
[ ] You crossposted to *way* too many newsgroups
[x] I don't like your tone of voice
[x] What you posted has been done before.
[x] Not only that, it was also done better the last time.
[x] You quoted an *entire* post in your reply
[ ] You started a long, stupid thread
[ ] You continued spreading a long stupid thread
[ ] Your post is absurdly off topic for where you posted it
[ ] You posted a followup to crossposted robot-generated spam
[ ] You posted a "test" in a discussion group rather than in alt.test
[x] You posted a "YOU ALL SUCK" message
[x] You posted low-IQ flamebait
[x] You posted a blatantly obvious troll
[ ] You followed up to a blatantly obvious troll
[ ] You said "me too" to something
[x] You make no sense
[x] Your sig/alias is dreadful
[x] You must have spent your life in a skinner box to be this
clueless.
[ ] You posted a phone-sex ad
[ ] You posted a stupid pyramid money making scheme
[ ] You claimed a pyramid-scheme/chain letter for money was legal
[ ] Your margin settings (or lack of) make your post unreadable. Each
line just goes on and on, not stopping at 75 characters, making it
hard to read.
[ ] You posted in ELitE CaPitALs to look k0OwL
[ ] You posted a message in ALL CAPS, and you don't even own a TRS-80
[ ] Your post was FULL of RANDOM CAPS for NO APPARENT REASON
[x] You have greatly misunderstood the purpose of this newsgroup.
[x] You have greatly misunderstood the purpose of the Internet.
[x] You are a loser.
[ ] This has been pointed out to you before.
[ ] You didn't do anything specific, but appear to be so generally
worthless that you are being flamed on general principles.
[x] You obviously can't read the FAQ.
[x] You obviously only post with one hand, while the other is busy
with self-gratification.


It is recommended that you:

[x] Get a clue
[x] Get a life
[x] Go away
[x] Grow up
[x] Never post again
[x] Read every newsgroup you posted to for a week
[x] stop reading Usenet news and get a life
[ ] stop sending Email and get a life
[x] Bust up your modem with a hammer and eat it
[x] Have your medication adjusted
[x] Jump into a bathtub while holding your monitor
[x] find a volcano and throw yourself in
[x] get a gun and shoot yourself
[ ] Actually post something relevant
[x] Read the FAQ
[x] stick to FidoNet and come back when you've grown up
[x] Apologize to everybody in this newsgroup
[x] consume excrement
[x] consume excrement and thus expire
[x] get laid and expire
[ ] Post your tests to alt.test/misc.test
[ ] Put your home phone number in your ads from now on
[x] Refrain from posting until you have a vague idea what you're doing


In Closing, I'd Like to Say:

[x] You need to seek psychiatric help
[x] Take your gibberish somewhere else
[x] *plonk*
[x] Learn how to post or get off the usenet
[x] You need to take your head out of your ass
[x] You should be neutered before becoming old enough to breed
[x] Most of the above
[x] All of the above
[ ] Some of the above, not including All of the above
[ ] You are so clueless that I didn't even bother filling in this
form.


Darrel Toepfer

unread,
Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
to
phad...@my-deja.com wrote...

: David Graham wrote:
: > I'll bet Joe read the preFAP agreement he had with DirecPC better than
: > you did.
: >
: > As far as getting a life, Joe already has one but .. if you can please
: > show me where to get one, I sure would appreciate it .. could you loan
: > me yours? ... could I get a heart too? .. and maybe a brain while
: we're
: > at it .. I lost most all of mine when I got DPC ..
: >
: > .. but I had just enough left to sue the bloody ham-ass swine bastards
: > right up their backwater goat pockets .. please see my tag line ..
: >
: > .. I just hope that don't bother the Lil'HouTechs too much tonight ..
: >
: > David
: >
: I'm sure you won't have to worry about the "Lil'HouTechs" too much
: longer - won't it be an exciting time when it gets better later on.
: Don't want to give away any details but I think David here will be
: pondering on another one of those witty delightful condescending remarks
: that make him such a standard bearer for his cause. Bravo David bravo.
: Your troops stand at your beck and call.

Path:
news.direcpc.com!gestalt!outfeed1.news.cais.net!nntp.abs.net!news-peer.gip.net!n
ews.gsl.net!gip.net!hub1.ispnews.com!cyc12.deja.bcandid.com!nntp1.deja.com!nnrp2
deja.com!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail
From: phad...@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.satellite.direcpc
Subject: Re: DPC at it again!
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:40:46 GMT
Organization: Deja.com - Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Lines: 28
Message-ID: <7kl8bt$80n$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
References: <3766cc45...@news.mindspring.com>
<37681ac2...@192.168.0.1> <376c4ea8...@news.direcpc.com>
<376C67C0...@sig.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.21.170.4
X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Jun 21 11:40:46 1999 GMT
X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.5 [en] (Win95; I)
X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 PROXY, 1.0 x37.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client
208.21.170.4
Xref: news.direcpc.com alt.satellite.direcpc:7552


Sprint (NETBLK-SPRINTLINK-BLKS) SPRINTLINK-BLKS 208.0.0.0 - 208.35.255.255
I-Net, Inc (NETBLK-SPRINT-D015AA) SPRINT-D015AA 208.21.170.0 - 208.21.170.255

Registrant:
Net Marketing inc. (I-NET16-DOM)
7656 Shaughnessy suite 6
Montreal, Quebec H2A 1K4
CA

Domain Name: I-NET.COM

Administrative Contact:
Elie, S Abouzakhm (SAE25) eza...@IBM.NET
514 721 6918
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Elie, A.Zakhm (AE2273) za...@EXCITE.COM
212-656-1484
Billing Contact:
Elie, S Abouzakhm (SAE25) eza...@IBM.NET
514 721 6918

Record last updated on 13-Feb-99.
Record created on 04-Nov-98.
Database last updated on 20-Jun-99 08:12:04 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.DOWNTOWN.COM 165.90.20.172
NS2.DOWNTOWN.COM 165.90.21.81

Hey Frank, check the names above, they must be from west Texas...

Darrel Toepfer

unread,
Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
to
Darrel Toepfer wrote...
: phad...@my-deja.com wrote...

: : David Graham wrote:
: : > I'll bet Joe read the preFAP agreement he had with DirecPC better than
: : > you did.
: : >
: : > As far as getting a life, Joe already has one but .. if you can please
: : > show me where to get one, I sure would appreciate it .. could you loan
: : > me yours? ... could I get a heart too? .. and maybe a brain while
: : we're
: : > at it .. I lost most all of mine when I got DPC ..
: : >
: : > .. but I had just enough left to sue the bloody ham-ass swine bastards
: : > right up their backwater goat pockets .. please see my tag line ..
: : >
: : > .. I just hope that don't bother the Lil'HouTechs too much tonight ..
: : >
: : > David
: : >
: : I'm sure you won't have to worry about the "Lil'HouTechs" too much
: : longer - won't it be an exciting time when it gets better later on.
: : Don't want to give away any details but I think David here will be
: : pondering on another one of those witty delightful condescending remarks
: : that make him such a standard bearer for his cause. Bravo David bravo.
: : Your troops stand at your beck and call.
:
: Path:
:
news.direcpc.com!gestalt!outfeed1.news.cais.net!nntp.abs.net!news-peer.gip.net!n

:
ews.gsl.net!gip.net!hub1.ispnews.com!cyc12.deja.bcandid.com!nntp1.deja.com!nnrp2


I hate it when that happens...

Path:
news.direcpc.com!gestalt!outfeed1.news.cais.net!nntp.abs.net!news-peer.gip.net!n

ews.gsl.net!gip.net!hub1.ispnews.com!cyc12.deja.bcandid.com!nntp1.deja.com
nnrp2
.deja.com nntp2.deja.com nnrp1.deja.com not-for-mail


From: phad...@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.satellite.direcpc
Subject: Re: DPC at it again!
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:40:46 GMT
Organization: Deja.com - Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Lines: 28

Message-ID: <7kl8bt$80n$1 @ nnrp1.deja.com>
References: <3766cc45.34233433 @ news.mindspring.com>
<37681ac2.4896625 @ 192.168.0.1> <376c4ea8.24104201 @ news.direcpc.com>
<376C67C0.63AC31B0 @ sig.net>

Domain Name: I-NET.COM

NS1.DOWNTOWN.COM 165.90.20.172
NS2.DOWNTOWN.COM 165.90.21.81

Hey Frank, check the names above, they must be from west Texas... Probably not
them though... Probably one of these though:

I-Net Inc
1755 Jefferson Davis Hwy,
Arlington, VA 22202-3509
Phone: (703)769-2900

I-Net Inc
5001 Lyndon B Johnson Fwy,
Dallas, TX 75244-6120
Phone: (972)387-7322

I-Net Inc
26911 Northwestern Hwy,
Southfield, MI 48034-4717
Phone: (248)262-1277

I-NET Inc
300 5th Ave,
Waltham, MA 02451-8705
Phone: (508)967-2928

I-Net Inc
300 George St,
New Haven, CT 06511-6617
Phone: (203)781-3762

David Graham

unread,
Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
to

> David Graham <grab...@sig.net> wrote:
> > I'll bet Joe read the preFAP agreement he had with DirecPC better than
> > you did.
> >
> > As far as getting a life, Joe already has one but .. if you can please
> > show me where to get one, I sure would appreciate it .. could you loan
> > me yours? ... could I get a heart too? .. and maybe a brain while
> we're
> > at it .. I lost most all of mine when I got DPC ..
> >
> > .. but I had just enough left to sue the bloody ham-ass swine bastards
> > right up their backwater goat pockets .. please see my tag line ..
> >
> > .. I just hope that don't bother the Lil'HouTechs too much tonight ..
> >
> > David
> >
> I'm sure you won't have to worry about the "Lil'HouTechs" too much
> longer - won't it be an exciting time when it gets better later on.
> Don't want to give away any details but I think David here will be
> pondering on another one of those witty delightful condescending remarks
> that make him such a standard bearer for his cause. Bravo David bravo.
> Your troops stand at your beck and call.

Oh, thank you .. :)

Well, if you're talking about that automated online tech. support,
that's about the best thing they (DPC) could do .. and fire the whole
worthless lot down there in Houston.

I (could) assume you're a Lil'HouTecher because they always post
anonymously through DejaNews. Maybe you're not but I'll answer this like
you were a Lil'HouTecher. ;)

One more disclaimer and I'll get started: If you're NOT a Lil'HouTecher,
don't get pissed at me, I just like to piss that worthless lot off from
time to time. <VBG> So all apologies done in advance and hopefully taken
.. here goes ..

To the Lil'HouTech(s):

I wouldn't expect a single thing from an anonymous DejaNews poster and
if you had anything to "give" it would probably be something you read
here anyhow.

But all will not be lost, y'all can still do support for toasters, can
openers and all that nice(?) Popiel stuff that's hawked at the State
Fair of Texas. Who knows, someone in the dowsing rod business may need a
support department for water divining. Or maybe a real primo yo-yo maker
will come along to feed you.

At the bottom of this post is the tag line y'all love so much .. the one
giving the information on our class action suit and suing your master's
(HNS/DPC) butt right out of his britches. Boy, I wish we could include
y'all's sorry asses in it too but you're not responsible for anything,
certainly not anything you say on the phone to people that may need help
with DirecPC.

I just wish the attrition rate would increase to a point there's no
Lil'HouTechers left before that automated piece of crap gets going. I
know Richard Fewkes too well to expect more than another POS out of
either. Hell, y'all are just tokens so DPC can say they have one. They
never intended it to be more than a token department so they could
legally say they have a support(?) department. About as useful as a
wooden nickel ..

Attrition rate: by death or getting fired .. makes no difference to me.
Drop dead and we'll flame you on the way out .. wooden nickels burn fast ..

.. bye bye token ..

David G

Ps: I hope you have to get Mohammed to (try) read this to you .. but
tell that swine ass MoHam hello from me first .. then tell him a Texas
backwater goat has a message for him .. that ought to get Ol'MoPork
ready. If it don't, tell him we greased the pay check envelope stuffer
with pork grease, put pigs blood in the ink and maybe he won't touch his
HNS/DPC paycheck. Alok Mutter runs that billing department and maybe he
won't take one either. Wonder if Pradman Kaul will? ;)


>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

--
David Graham <grab...@sig.net>


--

don't buy it anywhere else unless it's for less, it ain't worth any
more'n that ... dg

Darrel Toepfer

unread,
Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
to
David Graham wrote...
: phad...@my-deja.com wrote:

Bleeh...

: One more disclaimer and I'll get started: If you're NOT a Lil'HouTecher,


: don't get pissed at me, I just like to piss that worthless lot off from
: time to time. <VBG> So all apologies done in advance and hopefully taken
: .. here goes ..
:
: To the Lil'HouTech(s):
:
: I wouldn't expect a single thing from an anonymous DejaNews poster and
: if you had anything to "give" it would probably be something you read
: here anyhow.

Don't they do that with the people who call them too?

: But all will not be lost, y'all can still do support for toasters, can


: openers and all that nice(?) Popiel stuff that's hawked at the State
: Fair of Texas. Who knows, someone in the dowsing rod business may need a
: support department for water divining. Or maybe a real primo yo-yo maker
: will come along to feed you.

Current statement:

If problem persists, uninstall and reinstall the software. 1 in 100 are helped
by this.

Should state:

If problem persists, repackage the equipment and return for a refund. 100%
effective.

: At the bottom of this post is the tag line y'all love so much .. the one


: giving the information on our class action suit and suing your master's
: (HNS/DPC) butt right out of his britches. Boy, I wish we could include
: y'all's sorry asses in it too but you're not responsible for anything,
: certainly not anything you say on the phone to people that may need help
: with DirecPC.
:
: I just wish the attrition rate would increase to a point there's no
: Lil'HouTechers left before that automated piece of crap gets going. I
: know Richard Fewkes too well to expect more than another POS out of
: either. Hell, y'all are just tokens so DPC can say they have one. They
: never intended it to be more than a token department so they could
: legally say they have a support(?) department. About as useful as a
: wooden nickel ..

You give them more credit than they deserve...

: Attrition rate: by death or getting fired .. makes no difference to me.


: Drop dead and we'll flame you on the way out .. wooden nickels burn fast ..

See statement above...

: .. bye bye token ..
:
: Ps: I hope you have to get Mohammed to (try) read this to you .. but


: tell that swine ass MoHam hello from me first .. then tell him a Texas
: backwater goat has a message for him .. that ought to get Ol'MoPork
: ready. If it don't, tell him we greased the pay check envelope stuffer
: with pork grease, put pigs blood in the ink and maybe he won't touch his
: HNS/DPC paycheck. Alok Mutter runs that billing department and maybe he
: won't take one either. Wonder if Pradman Kaul will? ;)

weedoo-urdo-goot


David Graham

unread,
Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
to

> fstc...@airmail.net (Frank St. Claire) wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 Jun 1999 02:17:47 GMT, Cip...@toaster.net (Alabaddin
> > Naseem) wrote:
> >
> > >Get a life! Obviously you have never read a "agreement" for any of
> the
> > >software you have on your machine or else you would realize this is
> > >just par for the course. Heh, I'm sure every company out there sends
> > >out encouragement in the service agreement giving license to sue the
> > >pants off of them..
> > >
> >
> > The name plus the attitude makes me think Alabaddin must be a Lil
> > Houstoner -- the intelligence level is about the same in both
> > (non-existent).
> >
> >
>
> Only a fool would strike at someone's name and their opinion.

If that Alabaddin is the Lil'HouTecher named Mohammed, it applies and so
does this:

We're in the USA and we speak English. I'm a native US born Indian, a
Cherokee and I speak English after a fashion. I do not understand that
Mohammed Indian from India (..or Pakistan or Bangladesh) and he won't
let me speak to someone that does speak English. And, that goes for a
few others at HNS/DPC these days too.

If I were in India I would be expected to speak the language there if I
depended on a job in that country and it required it. Or Pakistan .. or
Bangladesh and I have a few friends from all those places too.

Hughes will not take care of this situation by hiring English speaking
personnel. They will not remedy the present communication problem either
.. so, well take the next best course .. attack the person working at
the wrong job in hopes they leave that POS job in Houston belonging to a
POS company known as Hughes/DirecPC .. a division of POS GM ..


> Which only
> makes me believe that the reason this forum doesn't get more
> "intelligent" posts

You're right .. if you include your own.

> is due to the fact that Mr.St.Claire has nothing
> better to do - call it anger management - maybe he's tired of beating on
> his wife - or he was born premature with a serious deficiency and now he
> needs to strike out at the world by hiding behind his computer.


Or maybe he's just real tired of this language barrier crap in his own
country like a lot of us are.

Have you ever tried to talk to Mohammed or are you Mohammed, Mr. Anonymous?


> Anyhow, this base would be alot more helpful if you found ways to aid
> one another - and maybe - just maybe someone will take you serious for a
> change - and work hand in hand with you.

Hard to do when you have a basic language problem .. hard for them to
read my smoke signals too .. can't see the hand signs either .. don't
expect them too .. just speak English ..

Besides you're just an anonymous nobody .. so far .. but you could
change that ..

> Its not an impossible dream but
> at least it would be a start.

That's right but it takes a lot to bump their asses out to study
conversational English and wait for them to come back later .. we may
die of old age first ..

> Other than that, this forum is useless.

So, find another. Your anonymous opinion is worth about the same as shit
around here anyhow.

>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

Anonymous DejaNews poster .. another POS posting agent ..

David .. (and that's who I am and that's my address too. I'm not anonymous)

--
David Graham <grab...@sig.net>

Darrel Toepfer

unread,
Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
to
David Graham wrote...
: Darrel Toepfer wrote:
: > phad...@my-deja.com wrote...
:
: Ooooh, nice form Darrel .. hope you won't mind if I make a copy and hang
: it on the wall here .. I like to throw darts some days and I bet I could
: get most of this posters attributes right .. blindfolded .. if not, I'll
: bet I could reach it with a lighter and just torch the mutter ..

If you need the blank version lemme know... ;-)
I made some corrections in it, there were some duplications and missing
information, if you think anything should be added to it, lemme know that as
well...

Did you get your license? I posted it as a followup to Randull...

David Graham

unread,
Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
to

Ooooh, nice form Darrel .. hope you won't mind if I make a copy and hang


it on the wall here .. I like to throw darts some days and I bet I could
get most of this posters attributes right .. blindfolded .. if not, I'll
bet I could reach it with a lighter and just torch the mutter ..

--
David Graham <grab...@sig.net>

rammjet

unread,
Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
to
In article <01bebc08$49aeb820$fa56...@PROXY.WHODAT.NET>, "Darrel Toepfer"
<spam...@bbs.whodat.net> wrote:

>
> Administrative Contact:
> Elie, S Abouzakhm (SAE25) eza...@IBM.NET
> 514 721 6918
> Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
> Elie, A.Zakhm (AE2273) za...@EXCITE.COM
> 212-656-1484
> Billing Contact:
> Elie, S Abouzakhm (SAE25) eza...@IBM.NET
> 514 721 6918
>
>

> Hey Frank, check the names above, they must be from west Texas...

Notice how all three contacts are the same person, just the "technical"
contact is disguised to protect the guilty....

Goober

unread,
Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
to

Darrel Toepfer wrote in message
<01bebc08$49aeb820$fa56...@PROXY.WHODAT.NET>...
>phad...@my-deja.com wrote...

>: David Graham wrote:
>: > I'll bet Joe read the preFAP agreement he had with DirecPC better than
>: > you did.
>: >
>: > As far as getting a life, Joe already has one but .. if you can please
>: > show me where to get one, I sure would appreciate it .. could you loan
>: > me yours? ... could I get a heart too? .. and maybe a brain while
>: we're
>: > at it .. I lost most all of mine when I got DPC ..
>: >
>: > .. but I had just enough left to sue the bloody ham-ass swine bastards
>: > right up their backwater goat pockets .. please see my tag line ..
>: >
>: > .. I just hope that don't bother the Lil'HouTechs too much tonight ..
>: >
>: > David
>: >
>: I'm sure you won't have to worry about the "Lil'HouTechs" too much
>: longer - won't it be an exciting time when it gets better later on.
>: Don't want to give away any details but I think David here will be
>: pondering on another one of those witty delightful condescending remarks
>: that make him such a standard bearer for his cause. Bravo David bravo.
>: Your troops stand at your beck and call.
>
>Path:
>news.direcpc.com!gestalt!outfeed1.news.cais.net!nntp.abs.net!news-peer.gip.
net!n
>ews.gsl.net!gip.net!hub1.ispnews.com!cyc12.deja.bcandid.com!nntp1.deja.com!
nnrp2
>deja.com!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail

>From: phad...@my-deja.com
>Newsgroups: alt.satellite.direcpc
>Subject: Re: DPC at it again!
>Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:40:46 GMT
>Organization: Deja.com - Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>Lines: 28
>Message-ID: <7kl8bt$80n$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
>References: <3766cc45...@news.mindspring.com>
><37681ac2...@192.168.0.1> <376c4ea8...@news.direcpc.com>
><376C67C0...@sig.net>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.21.170.4
>X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Jun 21 11:40:46 1999 GMT
>X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.5 [en] (Win95; I)
>X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 PROXY, 1.0 x37.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client
>208.21.170.4
>Xref: news.direcpc.com alt.satellite.direcpc:7552
>
>
>Sprint (NETBLK-SPRINTLINK-BLKS) SPRINTLINK-BLKS 208.0.0.0 -
208.35.255.255
>I-Net, Inc (NETBLK-SPRINT-D015AA) SPRINT-D015AA 208.21.170.0 -
208.21.170.255
>
>Registrant:
>Net Marketing inc. (I-NET16-DOM)
> 7656 Shaughnessy suite 6
> Montreal, Quebec H2A 1K4
> CA
>
> Domain Name: I-NET.COM
>
> Administrative Contact:
> Elie, S Abouzakhm (SAE25) eza...@IBM.NET
> 514 721 6918
> Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
> Elie, A.Zakhm (AE2273) za...@EXCITE.COM
> 212-656-1484
> Billing Contact:
> Elie, S Abouzakhm (SAE25) eza...@IBM.NET
> 514 721 6918
>
> Record last updated on 13-Feb-99.
> Record created on 04-Nov-98.
> Database last updated on 20-Jun-99 08:12:04 EDT.
>
> Domain servers in listed order:
>
> NS1.DOWNTOWN.COM 165.90.20.172
> NS2.DOWNTOWN.COM 165.90.21.81
>
>Hey Frank, check the names above, they must be from west Texas...

Hey,

This is the weasle who tried to insult Honest Joe with the phase "That is a
bloody asinine comment to say you backwater goat." Only difference is that
he was phade2424 at that time.

It appears that this guy changes his alias more than he changes his
underwear.

Darrel Toepfer

unread,
Jun 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/22/99
to
STANDARDIZED TROLL REPLY FORM
(c) copyright 1999 by someone else.

(check all boxes that apply)

Dear:

[ ] Clueless Newbie [ ] Lamer [ ] Flamer
[ ] Loser [ ] Spammer [ ] Troller
[ ] "Me too" er [ ] Pervert [ ] Geek
[ ] Stupid [ ] Nerd [ ] Elvis
[ ] Racist [ ] Fed [ ] Freak
[ ] Fundamentalist [ ] Satanist [ ] Homeopath
[ ] Transvestite [ ] Moron [ ] Pest
[ ] Idiot [ ] Maggot
[ ] Unbearably self-righteous person

I took exception to your recent:

[ ] Email [ ] Post to (newsgroup)

It was (check all that apply):

[ ] Lame [ ] Stupid [ ] Abusive
[ ] Clueless [ ] Idiotic [ ] Brain-damaged
[ ] Imbecilic [ ] Arrogant [ ] Malevolent
[ ] Contemptible [ ] Libelous [ ] Ignorant
[ ] Witless [ ] Moronic [ ] Fundamentalist
[ ] Boring [ ] Dim [ ] Cowardly
[ ] Deceitful [ ] Demented [ ] Self-righteous
[ ] Crazy [ ] Weird [ ] Hypocritical
[ ] Loathsome [ ] Satanic [ ] Despicable
[ ] Belligerent [ ] Mind-numbing [ ] Maladroit
[ ] Much longer than any worthwhile thought of which you may be
capable.


Your attention is drawn to the fact that:

[ ] You posted what should have been emailed


[ ] You obviously don't know how to read your newsgroups line
[ ] You are trying to make money on a non-commercial newsgroup
[ ] You self-righteously impose your religious beliefs on others

[ ] You self-righteously impose your racial beliefs on others


[ ] You posted a binary in a non-binaries group

[ ] You don't know which group to post in
[ ] You posted something totally uninteresting


[ ] You crossposted to *way* too many newsgroups

[ ] I don't like your tone of voice
[ ] What you posted has been done before.
[ ] Not only that, it was also done better the last time.
[ ] You quoted an *entire* post in your reply


[ ] You started a long, stupid thread
[ ] You continued spreading a long stupid thread
[ ] Your post is absurdly off topic for where you posted it
[ ] You posted a followup to crossposted robot-generated spam
[ ] You posted a "test" in a discussion group rather than in alt.test

[ ] You posted a "YOU ALL SUCK" message
[ ] You posted low-IQ flamebait
[ ] You posted a blatantly obvious troll


[ ] You followed up to a blatantly obvious troll
[ ] You said "me too" to something

[ ] You make no sense
[ ] Your sig/alias is dreadful
[ ] You must have spent your life in a skinner box to be this clueless.


[ ] You posted a phone-sex ad
[ ] You posted a stupid pyramid money making scheme
[ ] You claimed a pyramid-scheme/chain letter for money was legal
[ ] Your margin settings (or lack of) make your post unreadable. Each
line just goes on and on, not stopping at 75 characters, making it
hard to read.
[ ] You posted in ELitE CaPitALs to look k0OwL
[ ] You posted a message in ALL CAPS, and you don't even own a TRS-80
[ ] Your post was FULL of RANDOM CAPS for NO APPARENT REASON

[ ] You have greatly misunderstood the purpose of this newsgroup.
[ ] You have greatly misunderstood the purpose of the Internet.
[ ] You are a loser.


[ ] This has been pointed out to you before.
[ ] You didn't do anything specific, but appear to be so generally
worthless that you are being flamed on general principles.

[ ] You obviously can't read the FAQ.
[ ] You obviously only post with one hand, while the other is busy
with self-gratification.


It is recommended that you:

[ ] Get a clue
[ ] Get a life
[ ] Go away
[ ] Grow up
[ ] Never post again
[ ] Read every newsgroup you posted to for a week
[ ] stop reading Usenet news and get a life


[ ] stop sending Email and get a life

[ ] Bust up your modem with a hammer and eat it
[ ] Have your medication adjusted
[ ] Jump into a bathtub while holding your monitor
[ ] Find a volcano and throw yourself in
[ ] Get a gun and shoot yourself
[ ] Actually post something relevant
[ ] Read the FAQ
[ ] Stick to FidoNet and come back when you've grown up
[ ] Apologize to everybody in this newsgroup
[ ] Consume excrement
[ ] Consume excrement and thus expire
[ ] Get laid and expire


[ ] Post your tests to alt.test/misc.test
[ ] Put your home phone number in your ads from now on

[ ] Refrain from posting until you have a vague idea what you're doing


In Closing, I'd Like to Say:

[ ] You need to seek psychiatric help
[ ] Take your gibberish somewhere else
[ ] *plonk*
[ ] Learn how to post or get off the usenet
[ ] You need to take your head out of your ass
[ ] You should be neutered before becoming old enough to breed
[ ] Most of the above
[ ] All of the above

David Graham

unread,
Jun 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/23/99
to

I kinda like it already answered .. a good general "fits all" for this
group ..

.. randy wants someone to explain why his mark (signature) is all over
it .. ;)

>
> Did you get your license? I posted it as a followup to Randull...

Sure did and thanks too .. :)

--
David Graham <grab...@sig.net>

Darrel Toepfer

unread,
Jun 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/23/99
to
David Graham wrote...
: Darrel Toepfer wrote:
: > David Graham wrote...

Well for this guy anywayz... ;-)

: .. randy wants someone to explain why his mark (signature) is all over


: it .. ;)
:
: > Did you get your license? I posted it as a followup to Randull...
:
: Sure did and thanks too .. :)

Well he was playing parrot again today, I asked him if he wanted a cracker...

David Graham

unread,
Jun 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/23/99
to
oooh .. you took all'a randy's signatures out of it already ..

tanks Darrel :)

Darrel Toepfer wrote:
>
> STANDARDIZED TROLL REPLY FORM
> (c) copyright 1999 by someone else.

[snipped and hung on the wall:]

David Graham

unread,
Jun 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/23/99
to

> fstc...@airmail.net (Frank St. Claire) wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 Jun 1999 02:17:47 GMT, Cip...@toaster.net (Alabaddin
> > Naseem) wrote:
> >
> > >Get a life! Obviously you have never read a "agreement" for any of
> the
> > >software you have on your machine or else you would realize this is
> > >just par for the course. Heh, I'm sure every company out there sends
> > >out encouragement in the service agreement giving license to sue the
> > >pants off of them..
> > >
> >
> > The name plus the attitude makes me think Alabaddin must be a Lil
> > Houstoner -- the intelligence level is about the same in both
> > (non-existent).
> >
> >
>
> Only a fool would strike at someone's name and their opinion.

hiagain .. :)

> Which only
> makes me believe that the reason this forum doesn't get more
> "intelligent" posts is due to the fact that Mr.St.Claire has nothing
> better to do - call it anger management - maybe he's tired of beating on
> his wife - or he was born premature with a serious deficiency and now he
> needs to strike out at the world by hiding behind his computer.
> Anyhow, this base would be alot more helpful if you found ways to aid
> one another -

.. give aid more than one and you give aids .. is plural ?

you foriner no do Engrish good ..

you got bad mind .. use bad words ... beat, aid, hand, premature, hide
.. you closet wanker?

> and maybe - just maybe someone will take you serious for a
> change -

you take someone else in closet .. maybe they give you change .. if you
serrius ..


> and work hand in hand with you.

you work hand and hand with someone of you kind but not here ..

.. kinky and cheep = LilHouTecher

> Its not an impossible dream but
> at least it would be a start. Other than that, this forum is useless.

you useless too .. you clean old shoes .. have wet dream doing soles ..

you eat with left hand .. piddle with pee-pee with right one?


hope I didn't disappoint you .. you just "thought" I was pretty low ..

it necessary to communicate with low life .. HouTecher


>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

David .. a backwater goat in Texas that go baaa not oink like you..

--
David Graham <grab...@sig.net>

0 new messages