Dic 4 of RAP CD is burned
Roger W. Norman
coming in, so what I'm going to do is fill up a 5th disc with what's
remaining in the mail/delivery system. It's Friday night, 29th of November,
and not the cutoff date but we have filled the 4th disc, so technically we
should call it at this. Harvey and I have had several conversations on the
subject and we decided to allow the additional submissions that are in the
system, but not any ftp submissions simply because it's just too hard to
figure out which should come first, and which ones might go by the wayside.
Since we're not doing this on an absolute quality of recording situation
that would leave me up to being the one to decide, whatever's in the
pipeline now and gets here and finishes up the 5th CD is it. We have not,
and are not, making decisions on any submissions, as I have stated a number
of times.
DO NOT ask to send me stuff now. If you don't have it in the mail or with
the delivery services, it's not going to go on. Period. The cutoff has
been reached, but the difference is that it's going to be more than 4 discs
and that's it. And believe me, I can read a send date of anything past 29
Nov 02, so don't try to put one in the mail tomorrow.
What all this does, however, is delay the end product's release, so we won't
see this before the end of the year. No Christmas presents of the product,
not out by New Years, just out when it comes out, and that's probably not
going to be until the middle of January at best. Harvey has some things to
say/do once I send him the finished compilation, although with 5 CDs it
should flow pretty smoothly. Just don't get your hopes up.
OK, now on to my appraisal of the music coming through. I've been pleased
about doing the RAP 3 Times CD set, and one other during 9/11, but I've
never been so pleased as I have been on hearing these submissions. Quality
music to a song, not one doesn't deserve listening to. And even if one were
to not like the genre of the music, one would have to accept the fact that
it has been done well. My hat is off to all of you. Musicians, producers,
enginers, and those that wear multiple hats. This is the best RAP CD
compilation ever.
I spred a little musical jelly last week about who's doing what and things
to look for, but it's so comprehensive right now that it's impossible to do
justice to the individuals by trying to define the individual sets. Suffice
it to say that there's not one CD amongst the set that doesn't deserve a
good listening to.
I will publish a list of all current participants on Sunday and that will be
my last under the RAPC CD Week # thread. From there you will just have to
wait until the whole project is sent to production and then from there,
Harvey will be the contact.
I've enjoyed the emails, the uploads, the telephone conversations and look
forward to "MAYBE" doing it again, but I will say that although I may have
"dibs", I don't know that I'll go through this again. It's a long drawn out
process. It depends on what I might have going on at the time, so if anyone
else is planning on stepping up and taking the reins, then by all means,
bring it up. There's no way you can be disappointed.
--
Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
Ro...@SirMusicStudio.com
301-585-4681
Send your RAP CD submissions to:
SirMusic Studio
10 Hamilton Avenue
Silver Spring, MD
20901-3411
Mark Plancke
>I've enjoyed the emails, the uploads, the telephone conversations and look
>forward to "MAYBE" doing it again, but I will say that although I may have
>"dibs", I don't know that I'll go through this again. It's a long drawn out
>process. It depends on what I might have going on at the time, so if anyone
>else is planning on stepping up and taking the reins, then by all means,
>bring it up. There's no way you can be disappointed.
You've done nothing less than a stellar job Roger and thanks goes out
to Harvey as well for his continued participation. I'm looking forward
to hearing the finished product as I'm sure many others are.
Happy Holidays!!!!
Mark
http://SoundtechRecording.com
"Putting the lion's share of your attention and investment out in front
of the microphones pays off every time." -- Bob Olhsson
Particle Salad
forward to hearing it anyway... thanks for the update.
Keith W Blackwell
> forward to "MAYBE" doing it again, but I will say that although I may have
> "dibs", I don't know that I'll go through this again. It's a long drawn out
> process. It depends on what I might have going on at the time, so if anyone
> else is planning on stepping up and taking the reins, then by all means,
> bring it up. There's no way you can be disappointed.
Roger, I would like to thank you for all of the trouble and inconvenience
you've gone to in order to help put this together. And of course this
goes for the other volunteers as well. I suppose Harvey is once again
putting up the funds for the pressings and handling all the trouble of
taking orders and mailing these things out? For all of you going the
extra mile for this compilation: HIP HIP! HOORAH!
If this is really going on to 5 disks, then listen, Harvey, the price
simply must be raised. And while you're at it, you might as well price
it so that you can basically break even with < 400 units sold. Make it
350 units if you want. Whatever. If the income exceeds that, then I'm
sure you can find many ways to consider your effort worth that income!
And even if you can't, you can consider it a downpayment on the next
compilation's up-front costs. Go ahead. Make it $20. Or whatever. I'm
sure that you won't be losing any sales by doing so. Would any one here
object to that? Would anyone here buy fewer sets as a result?
While of course there are still some final volunteer efforts that need
to be carried out, it's a good chance to remind all the contributors to
please put together some useful liner notes and send them to Lyle Caldwell.
If the music on this set makes it the best R.A.P. compilation yet, then
let's put in an extra 20 minutes or so of typing to make the liner notes
not only complete, but really worth reading as well. And I'm not asking
that folks be hyper-verbose, as I tend to be. We just need to be able to
read some interesting factoids about the technical aspects of the recording,
the gear, the mix, or for that matter just give us something about the
music itself. Whatever. Practically any info is educational when compared
to none. But let's all please work on getting those liner notes to Lyle.
It is these notes that make a R.A.P. compilation so much more than just
a communal sharing of samples of our work.
--
Keith W Blackwell
Lyle Caldwell
committments, but once I get all the submissions (hint F'n hint), I'll get
it all online. Do we have a name for this set yet? Or could that be the
schtick itself? Hell, I don't think any album has ever been officially
named Zoso, so why not us?
--
Lyle Caldwell
Psionic Media, Inc.
"Keith W Blackwell" <keith.b...@homemail.com> wrote in message
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Jay - atldigi
ma...@particlesalad.com wrote:
> Shit, that's what I get for waiting until the last minute. Oh well,
Yeah, me too. I kept thinking there'd be time. Had this cool 8 piece
latin jazz band I wanted to send in. Next time.
--
Jay Frigoletto
Mastersuite
Los Angeles
www.promastering.com
David Morgan (MAMS)
"Jay - atldigi" <atl...@aol.com> wrote in message news:atldigi-0AB151...@news1.news.adelphia.net...
I can't believe that the two of you couldn't also get some 'papal' dispensation.
Roger W. Norman
judge the CDs by the songs contained on them, but by the CDs as a whole,
which means that I listen a lot more than I probably should. I mean, the
job is really only to slap them onto one CD from another one, and that's
menial type work. A little heads/tailing (don't worry Tonebarge, I didn't
touch yours), lining each one up as tight as possible, getting the markers
correct, etc. A lot easier this year on Samplitude than the last time in
SAWPro/Nero. Samp lets me dump the songs directly in from the audio CD,
slap the marker on it and do the next.
Still, I find myself spending more and more hours a day just like the last
time. I've taken over a week to install insulation in my woodworking shed
simply because I've spent too much time enjoying this product. I really
should have finished the insultation in a day and the sheetrocking in even
less than a day! <g> Too much fun.
--
Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
Ro...@SirMusicStudio.com
301-585-4681
Send your RAP CD submissions to:
SirMusic Studio
10 Hamilton Avenue
Silver Spring, MD
20901-3411
"Mark Plancke" <Ma...@SoundtechRecording.com> wrote in message
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Rob Adelman
last r.a.p. CD they said it would probably be the last due to the amount of
work involved, yet here they are doing it again. MANY thanks! I can't think of a
better way for r.a.p. participants to "show their stuff".
-Rob Adelman
Bob Smith
>
> Absolutely. I haven't been waving the torch much, due to other time
> committments, but once I get all the submissions (hint F'n hint), I'll get
> it all online. Do we have a name for this set yet?
A big thankyou to Roger, Harvey et al and you as well, Lyle. That's a
lot of time being putting into the project. If I recall right, Lyle, you
said plain text or rtf files and a small jpg or two would be preferred.
I have a couple of mic placement shots that might be desirable to
include with my documentation, but only if it's not a big hassle for
you.
--
bobs
we organize chaos
Bob Smith - BS Studios
http://www.bsstudios.com/
rsm...@bsstudios.com
OldEngDog
hassle but you put yourself through it again every year trying to get it right.
That's my opinion.
Geri
Lee Wadsworth
about my little effort standing beside the other songs. Thanks for all the
work!
In terms of price - $15. was a steal for the old sets -- $20, or even $25 would
still be an incredible deal.
-lee-
John L Rice
"Lee Wadsworth" <lapt...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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I'd rather not pay more than $35 . . .but I would.
John L Rice
Dru...@ImJohn.com
Lorin David Schultz
>
> If this is really going on to 5 disks, then listen, Harvey, the price
> simply must be raised. And while you're at it, you might as well
> price it so that you can basically break even with < 400 units sold.
> Make it 350 units if you want. Whatever. If the income exceeds that,
> then I'm sure you can find many ways to consider your effort worth
> that income! And even if you can't, you can consider it a downpayment
> on the next compilation's up-front costs. Go ahead. Make it $20. Or
> whatever. I'm sure that you won't be losing any sales by doing so.
> Would any one here object to that? Would anyone here buy fewer sets
> as a result?
I heartily endorse that suggestion. Since Harvey seems to wind up
sitting on several sets for quite some time after the initial
investment, I'd like to see the break-even point set at a lower volume.
We're talking pocket change here either way, so whether it's $15 or $25
isn't going to affect me all that much, but that difference multiplied
by several hundred sets affects our esteemed Klergy King.
--
"It CAN'T be too loud... some of the red lights aren't even on yet!"
- Lorin David Schultz
in the audio booth
making even bad news sound good
Roger W. Norman
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Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
Ro...@SirMusicStudio.com
301-585-4681
Send your RAP CD submissions to:
SirMusic Studio
10 Hamilton Avenue
Silver Spring, MD
20901-3411
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Roger W. Norman
not move up a bit. Geez, it can cost $25 for a CD, much less a set that has
this much diversified music on it, particularly of this quality.
Again I say that the discussions we've had about where/how/what happens on
the dynamics are being taken into consideration. After a certain point, if
people want it even louder then they should know where their volume knob is.
This is superb stuff and I'm into the top third of the 5th disc. Lots of
lessons here. More than enough to justify the minimal expense. So Harvey,
go for it. Make the cost justify the expense.
And if you guys don't support this, then I can pretty well guess that IT
WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN. I still have a hard time believing that Harvey couldn't
sell the last one out. But that brings up the point again. For those who
wish, regardless if Harvey raises prices on this compilation, I'm sure he
will be glad to include, to those first 200 purchasers (or so, who knows)
the RAP 3 Times CD compilation for an additional $7.50. Now I haven't
checked with Harvey on this, but at worst it would be $10 for the last
compilation. So now it's almost down to donations. Get the money in, buy
the CDs, buy multiple copies of the CDs and give your friends an idea of
whom you spend so much time with online. And don't forget Scott Dorsey's
effort on the RAP Vinyl. I'll bet he'll work something out too. So just as
an example, you could get the RAP 3 Times CD, the RAP Vinyl and the new RAP
CD for no more thant $35 or $40 bucks. I know Scott has them sitting in his
living room and I know that Harvey, the last I heard, had some 200 sets of
the RAP 3 Times CD, so get them now. It's good fun and good music. A steal
at double the price. Let's get Harvey and Scott to set prices and get on
with this. I'm tired of typing about it! <g>
--
Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
Ro...@SirMusicStudio.com
301-585-4681
"Lorin David Schultz" <LSch...@ctv.ca> wrote in message
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Harvey Gerst
OK, it's gonna be called "A Fifth Of Rap", it'll be a five disc set, and the
price will be $20, including airmail shipping to anywhere in the world. Throw in
an extra $10 and I'll include the "RAP 3 Times" 4 disc set (I've got about 75
sets left, I believe).
You can send cash, check, or money orders to:
rec.audio.pro
P.O. Box 888
Krum Texas, 76249
Make checks or money orders payable to: "rec.audio.pro". Including a self
addressed label will get you same day shipping.
You can also pay using paypal (www.paypal.com) by paying to my paypal account:
(harg...@airmail.net), and noting which sets you're ordering in the title line.
Same guarantee as all the other sets we've done: If you're not happy with the
set FOR ANY REASON, you can return it for a full 100% refund.
Roger is right about some of the extra costs that I've been absorbing (e.g.,
commercial r.a.p. bank account, post office box, mailers, gas to go to the post
office and back every day, phone calls, labels, etc.).
Harvey Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio
http://www.ITRstudio.com/
Roger W. Norman
with his RAP Vinyl, for those who still have turntables.
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Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
Ro...@SirMusicStudio.com
301-585-4681
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Arny Krueger
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> Don't forget to touch bases with Scott and see if you want to
> work an add-on with his RAP Vinyl, for those who still have
> turntables.
I'd like to see someone try to cut my contribution on vinyl at a
decent peak level...
Roger W. Norman
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Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
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301-585-4681
"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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Keith W Blackwell
> Don't forget to touch bases with Scott and see if you want to work an add-on
> with his RAP Vinyl, for those who still have turntables.
Roger, you might have missed this exchange a couple of weeks ago,
requoted here with initials to keep it all clear (or lookup message ID
<491B84013E682BF4.5E0B5FD8...@lp.airnews.net>):
{ KB=me, SD=Scott Dorsey, HG=Harvey Gerst, in case that isn't obvious )
SD| Tell you what I am going to do. When you order a copy of the new CD set,
SD| you throw in an extra seven bucks, and I will send you a copy of the LP
SD| right away! Get these LPs out of my living room, get a copy of the fine
SD| LP and also the new CD set. You'll have a good time, you'll get great
SD| music, you'll see how hard you can make your turntable mistrack.
KB| Alright, Scott, I've been procrastinating, but this is gonna throw
KB| me over the edge, because I simply *must* order the CD set. Are you
KB| saying that if we just add an extra $7 to the $15 we pay to Harvey,
KB| that you and Harvey are going to coordinate this and make it just
KB| work out (is if by magic :-)? Is Harvey ready to accept payment?
KB| You there, Harvey? Is PayPal still ok?
SD| I need to talk to Harvey a bit, but I think we can make this work. Harvey,
SD| you prepared to send me some mailing addresses?
HG| Works for me. Be glad to forward them to you.
HG| I'm still hooked up with paypal.
So I just figured this was already agreed upon, though admittedly
Scott and Harvey *might* have some more arrangements to work out.
However, you probably *did* see this since it was in a thread you
started ("RAP CD Week 4"), and I'm sure a little reminder doesn't
hurt. Lyle might want to craft an appropriate advertisement for
these package deals for the web site.
--
Keith W Blackwell
Roger W. Norman
that there would be one place for information about who the purchases go to
and what deals are available. Probably we should get Lyle to put it up on
www.hoohahrecords.com/rap too.
--
Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
Ro...@SirMusicStudio.com
301-585-4681
"Keith W Blackwell" <keith.b...@homemail.com> wrote in message
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Harvey Gerst
>{ KB=me, SD=Scott Dorsey, HG=Harvey Gerst, in case that isn't obvious )
>
> SD| Tell you what I am going to do. When you order a copy of the new CD set,
> SD| you throw in an extra seven bucks, and I will send you a copy of the LP
> SD| right away! Get these LPs out of my living room, get a copy of the fine
> SD| LP and also the new CD set. You'll have a good time, you'll get great
> SD| music, you'll see how hard you can make your turntable mistrack.
>
> KB| Alright, Scott, I've been procrastinating, but this is gonna throw
> KB| me over the edge, because I simply *must* order the CD set. Are you
> KB| saying that if we just add an extra $7 to the $20 we pay to Harvey,
> KB| that you and Harvey are going to coordinate this and make it just
> KB| work out (is if by magic :-)? Is Harvey ready to accept payment?
> KB| You there, Harvey? Is PayPal still ok?
>
> SD| I need to talk to Harvey a bit, but I think we can make this work. Harvey,
> SD| you prepared to send me some mailing addresses?
>
> HG| Works for me. Be glad to forward them to you.
> HG| I'm still hooked up with paypal.
>So I just figured this was already agreed upon, though admittedly
>Scott and Harvey *might* have some more arrangements to work out.
>However, you probably *did* see this since it was in a thread you
>started ("RAP CD Week 4"), and I'm sure a little reminder doesn't
>hurt. Lyle might want to craft an appropriate advertisement for
>these package deals for the web site.
Thanks Keith, I did forget about that exchange. So here's the deal:
$20 buys you the new "A Fifth of RAP" 5 disc set.
Add $10 and I'll throw in the "RAP 3 Times" 4 disc set until they're gone,
And/or $7 more will get you the RAP Vinyl CD.
Arny Krueger
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