McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
Rich Graves
Don't forget the Bavarian Illuminati.
By the way, B'nai B'rith Canada has about as much in common with the ADL as
Pierce's Neo-Nazi group has with the National Alliance of Methadone Advocates
<http://www.methadone.org/>, i.e., two words.
Of course, you're all just pawns of Dogbert's New Ruling Class. The divide-
and-conquer strategy is going swimmingly.
Roger Hughes
Head Nizkook in Charge, McVay, confirms ADL funding:
>B'nai Brith does not pay me from BB funds, Ken - they pay me
>from donated funds, and if there are no donated funds, I do
>not get paid at all. Does it happen? Yes, it does... I
>recently went five months without receiving funds from the
>trust, simply because there was nothing there.
Conspicuously, this also indirectly connects the Nizkooks to the Israeli
Mossad terror and espionage network, since even former ADL head, Sol
Joftes, confirmed some years ago before a Congressional committe that
the ADL "more often than not does the bidding of the state of Israel."
Of course, we all know that the Mossad is know world-wide as one of the
the foremost perpetrators of political assasination, blackmail, torture,
extortion, murder, kidnapping, and any number of other crimes.
Not only this, but the Nizkooks are also indirectly connected, again
through the ADL, to a Canadian Marxist terror organization, which calls
itself "Anti-racist Action" or ARA. The ARA is a motley collection of
violent misfits and leftist thugs who openly advocate arson and
violence, and who have been connected to the fire-bombing of the home of
pacifist/revisionist Ernst Zundel in Toronto. The ADL has coordinated
several of their efforts with the ARA in the past. It has even been
suspected that the ADL directs funds to the violence-prone ARA.
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Fafner13
This post was quite interesting...Jamie is paid from donated funds, but he
never stated how much he was paid. There is no scam like a non-profit
scam.
Roger Hughes
In message <338BAD...@nbnet.nb.ca> - Keith Morrison
<lone...@nbnet.nb.ca> writes:
:>
:>Fafner13 wrote:
:>>
:>> This post was quite interesting...Jamie is paid from donated funds, but he
:>> never stated how much he was paid. There is no scam like a non-profit
:>> scam.
:>What is William Pierce's salary? What percentage of the monies
:>generated by the National Alliance end up in Pierce's pockets?
That's got absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the ADL funds
Nizkor, and works with, and possibly funds, the terroristic ARA. Quit
trying to muddy the water by using your patented Nizkook obsfucation
techniques.
FYI, Dr. Pierce lives very modestly, and certainly isn't making himself
rich off the National Alliance.
Keith Morrison
Roger Hughes wrote:
> :>What is William Pierce's salary? What percentage of the monies
> :>generated by the National Alliance end up in Pierce's pockets?
>
> That's got absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the ADL funds
> Nizkor, and works with, and possibly funds, the terroristic ARA. Quit
> trying to muddy the water by using your patented Nizkook obsfucation
> techniques.
>
> FYI, Dr. Pierce lives very modestly, and certainly isn't making himself
> rich off the National Alliance.
I'm sorry but I must insist on seeing Pierce's tax returns and a full
audit not only of his finances but those of the NA as well.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you are not
prepared to do that why should you have any expectation of Nizkor
catering to your whims? How do we know that the National Alliance
is not being secretly financed by terrorist-supporting nations
like Libya, Syria and Iran who have a vested interest in attacking
Israel, as you people do continuously?
--
Keith Morrison
lone...@nbnet.nb.ca
Michael P. Stein
In article <3399b879...@news.pnet.net>,
Michael <natio...@juno.com> wrote:
[...]
>Here's something for you to chew on in case you missed it:
>
>65% Changes at Nizkor! [More Like This]
>URL: http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/changes-at-nizkor.html
>Summary: Until now, all of the responsibilities for running Nizkor
>have rested on the shoulders of our Founder and Director, Ken
>McVay. American activities and collection of funds will be the
>responsibility of the Nizkor Fund established under the San Antonio
>Area Foundation, a public charity in San Antonio, Texas.
>
>(Nizkook Tap Dancing--notice Bnai Brith is no longer mentioned in the
>excite search. It says "American Activities....." Nothing has changed
>at all. Deceivers!)
Your inability to pay attention to detail is not anyone's fault but
your own. Check the date at the bottom of the page.
>Compare to the Excite search from less than 2 weeks ago (same
>keyword):
What keyword?
> Nizkor Funding
>URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
Note that this is not the same web page.
>Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
Oh, GEE. What an intelligent search keyword for Nizkor funding. How
many hits did you get for "Nizkor?" Did you look at all of them?
Now, please look at the date on the bottom of the page. You will note
that it is six weeks later than the 'changes' page. So your claim that
B'nai B'rith is "no longer" mentioned is based on a very strange view of
the flow of time, to say the least. Please check the 'funding' page to
verify for yourself that it is still there on Nizkor, saying exactly the
same thing about B'nai B'rith. The 'changes' page is out of date; it
needs to be brought up to date to mention the 'funding' change.
If Excite changed its order of presentation, that is hardly Nizkor's
fault. Although I wouldn't be surprised if you managed to find a way to
try to claim that it is, given your continued frenzied tap dancing to
avoid admitting that you screwed up by blaming John Morris for what your
ally 'sla...@orbiter.com' did.
>"By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War" Mossad Motto.
>
>Read the book "By Way of Deception" by Victor Ostrovsky.
You would do well to learn how to read, or at least to pay attention
to what you read. It would help you to keep from making quite so much of
a fool of yourself.
--
Mike Stein The above represents the Absolute Truth.
POB 10420 Therefore it cannot possibly be the official
Arlington, VA 22210 position of my employer.
Michael
On 1 Jun 1997 00:16:08 -0400, mst...@access5.digex.net (Michael P.
Stein) wrote:
Mr Bojangles Stein is simply a dishonest twit.
Keyword; "Nizkor" (on all searches)
Now all you html writers know that a meta tag change will be reflected
when search engines do their search. Anyone want to dispute that?
So Mr. Bojangles you have sunk to even lower levels by trying to blame
excite. Tells me you liars changed back to the old tag and date
because your playmates at Bnai Brith were unhappy about the way you
guys are handling things.
You can rant and rave all you like about your 'friend' the
Sanctimonious Hypocrite John Morris. I have posted the following
questions everywhere and you refuse to answer. So here it is again:
When did other people become responsible for what the Sanctimonious
Hypocrite John Morris posts on Usenet? Isn't John responsible for his
own posts?
"By Way Of Deception, thou shalt do war"--Mossad Motto
You are a real genuine effemintate sniveller, aren't you.
natio...@juno.com
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Michael
>In article <3399b879...@news.pnet.net>,
>Michael <natio...@juno.com> wrote:
>[...]
>
>>Here's something for you to chew on in case you missed it:
>>
>>65% Changes at Nizkor! [More Like This]
>>URL: http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/changes-at-nizkor.html
>>Summary: Until now, all of the responsibilities for running Nizkor
>>have rested on the shoulders of our Founder and Director, Ken
>>McVay. American activities and collection of funds will be the
>>responsibility of the Nizkor Fund established under the San Antonio
>>Area Foundation, a public charity in San Antonio, Texas.
>>
>>(Nizkook Tap Dancing--notice Bnai Brith is no longer mentioned in the
>>excite search. It says "American Activities....." Nothing has changed
>>at all. Deceivers!)
>
> Your inability to pay attention to detail is not anyone's fault but
>your own. Check the date at the bottom of the page.
What page?
>
>>Compare to the Excite search from less than 2 weeks ago (same
>>keyword):
>
> What keyword?
same keyword that is the only keyword ever used: nizkor
>> Nizkor Funding
>>URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>
> Note that this is not the same web page.
no kidding!
but it was the same search.
>
>>Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
there's your keyword Bojangles.
> Oh, GEE. What an intelligent search keyword for Nizkor funding. How
>many hits did you get for "Nizkor?" Did you look at all of them?
I looked at nearly 500 hundred of them. You will be seeing them soon.
> Now, please look at the date on the bottom of the page. You will note
>that it is six weeks later than the 'changes' page. So your claim that
>B'nai B'rith is "no longer" mentioned is based on a very strange view of
>the flow of time, to say the least. Please check the 'funding' page to
>verify for yourself that it is still there on Nizkor, saying exactly the
>same thing about B'nai B'rith. The 'changes' page is out of date; it
>needs to be brought up to date to mention the 'funding' change.
Know what a meta tag is?
Who cares if your funding page is still there? You won't get to it as
the first entry any more by typing in 'nizkor' on an excite search I
did two weeks ago. Nor will you get it if you search 'nizkor funding'.
Tough, pal. Same search within 2 weeks of each other and 2 different
results!
> If Excite changed its order of presentation, that is hardly Nizkor's
>fault. Although I wouldn't be surprised if you managed to find a way to
>try to claim that it is, given your continued frenzied tap dancing to
>avoid admitting that you screwed up by blaming John Morris for what your
>ally 'sla...@orbiter.com' did.
excite is a bot. It searches for your headings and meta tags. When
they change, the search changes. Deceiver.
>>"By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War" Mossad Motto.
>>
>>Read the book "By Way of Deception" by Victor Ostrovsky.
>
> You would do well to learn how to read, or at least to pay attention
>to what you read. It would help you to keep from making quite so much of
>a fool of yourself.
"What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the
damned fools said would happen has come to pass."
-----Lord Melbourne
>--
>Mike Stein The above represents the Absolute Truth.
>POB 10420 Therefore it cannot possibly be the official
>Arlington, VA 22210 position of my employer.
"I haven't done anything wrong."-----Bill Clinton
Now, Bojangles everyone can check out the excite search for themselves
and compare to what was there less than 2 weeks ago.
You can view and answer to the thread:Subject: Re: Michael Bojangles
Stein Blows It Again!! and Again!!
And explain why you have ignored these:
Subject: Bojangles Stein Refuses To Answer!! and
Subject: Mike "Bojangles" Stein----Answer This
Where you are asked to answer one or both of these questions:
When did other people become responsible for what the Sanctimonious
Hypocrite John Morris posts on Usenet? Isn't John responsible for his
own posts?
The Whole World Is Watching.
Michael P. Stein
In article <33998ce9...@news.pnet.net>,
Michael <natio...@juno.com> wrote:
>On 1 Jun 1997 00:16:08 -0400, mst...@access5.digex.net (Michael P.
>Stein) wrote:
>
>>In article <3399b879...@news.pnet.net>,
>>Michael <natio...@juno.com> wrote:
>>[...]
>>
>>>Here's something for you to chew on in case you missed it:
>>>
>>>65% Changes at Nizkor! [More Like This]
>>>URL: http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/changes-at-nizkor.html
>>>(Nizkook Tap Dancing--notice Bnai Brith is no longer mentioned in the
>>>excite search. It says "American Activities....." Nothing has changed
>>>at all. Deceivers!)
>>
>> Your inability to pay attention to detail is not anyone's fault but
>>your own. Check the date at the bottom of the page.
>
>What page?
The page just above, idiot.
>>>Compare to the Excite search from less than 2 weeks ago (same
>>>keyword):
>>
>> What keyword?
>
>same keyword that is the only keyword ever used: nizkor
What a stupid keyword, given the number of hits it will produce.
>>> Nizkor Funding
>>>URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>
>> Note that this is not the same web page.
>no kidding!
>but it was the same search.
News flash: every time a search engine re-indexes the web sites, you
are liable to get different results.
>>>Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>>Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>>and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>
>there's your keyword Bojangles.
>
>> Oh, GEE. What an intelligent search keyword for Nizkor funding. How
>>many hits did you get for "Nizkor?" Did you look at all of them?
>
>I looked at nearly 500 hundred of them. You will be seeing them soon.
>
>
>> Now, please look at the date on the bottom of the page. You will note
>>that it is six weeks later than the 'changes' page. So your claim that
>>B'nai B'rith is "no longer" mentioned is based on a very strange view of
>>the flow of time, to say the least. Please check the 'funding' page to
>>verify for yourself that it is still there on Nizkor, saying exactly the
>>same thing about B'nai B'rith. The 'changes' page is out of date; it
>>needs to be brought up to date to mention the 'funding' change.
>
>Know what a meta tag is?
Yes.
>Who cares if your funding page is still there? You won't get to it as
>the first entry any more
Do you get to it at all?
>by typing in 'nizkor' on an excite search I
>did two weeks ago. Nor will you get it if you search 'nizkor funding'.
>Tough, pal. Same search within 2 weeks of each other and 2 different
>results!
You really are an idiot, aren't you?
>> If Excite changed its order of presentation, that is hardly Nizkor's
>>fault. Although I wouldn't be surprised if you managed to find a way to
>>try to claim that it is, given your continued frenzied tap dancing to
>>avoid admitting that you screwed up by blaming John Morris for what your
>>ally 'sla...@orbiter.com' did.
>
>excite is a bot. It searches for your headings and meta tags. When
>they change, the search changes. Deceiver.
What does it do for equivalent 'meta' tags, where none match exactly?
Please provide documentation for your answer.
>>>"By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War" Mossad Motto.
>>>
>>>Read the book "By Way of Deception" by Victor Ostrovsky.
>>
>> You would do well to learn how to read, or at least to pay attention
>>to what you read. It would help you to keep from making quite so much of
>>a fool of yourself.
>
>"What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the
>damned fools said would happen has come to pass."
>
> -----Lord Melbourne
You would have to accept my challenge to see if what I promised would
happen. As long as you chicken out, of course you will not see it happen.
>Now, Bojangles everyone can check out the excite search for themselves
>and compare to what was there less than 2 weeks ago.
And 'nationalist' still cannot demonstrate that Excite guarantees to
return pages in the same order for equivalent meta tag (mis)matches each
time it re-indexes.
>You can view and answer to the thread:Subject: Re: Michael Bojangles
>Stein Blows It Again!! and Again!!
>
>And explain why you have ignored these:
I have not ignored the posts, which 'nationalist' started screaming
about 36 hours after he posted the first one. Rather, 'nationalist' has
ignored the answer, which is on DejaNews.
It is now over 24 hours since I posted it, but I have yet to see
"Nationalist's" response to my challenge to put his money where his mouth
is.
Michael P. Stein
In article <33967e2d...@news.pnet.net>,
Michael <natio...@juno.com> wrote:
>Now all you html writers know that a meta tag change will be reflected
>when search engines do their search. Anyone want to dispute that?
Yes, I do want to dispute that. Check Infoseek and HotBot. Keyword
'Nizkor' gives the Nizkor funding page in the top ten, and search on the
two words Nizkor funding returns the Nizkor funding page on the first hit.
Altavista performs the same way for "Nizkor funding" but on keyword
"Nizkor" it returns as its first hit a page from the Netherlands _about_
Nizkor, and the funding page is not shown until the _sixth_ screen of
hits.
Therefore the meta keywords must not have complete control of the
order in which things are returned.
You never tire of proving yourself an ignoramus in addition to proving
yourself a liar and a coward, do you?
Michael P. Stein
>Stein) wrote:
>> Oh, GEE. What an intelligent search keyword for Nizkor funding. How
>>many hits did you get for "Nizkor?" Did you look at all of them?
>>
>> Now, please look at the date on the bottom of the page. You will note
>>that it is six weeks later than the 'changes' page. So your claim that
>>B'nai B'rith is "no longer" mentioned is based on a very strange view of
>>the flow of time, to say the least. Please check the 'funding' page to
>>verify for yourself that it is still there on Nizkor, saying exactly the
>>same thing about B'nai B'rith. The 'changes' page is out of date; it
>>needs to be brought up to date to mention the 'funding' change.
>>
>> If Excite changed its order of presentation, that is hardly Nizkor's
>>fault. Although I wouldn't be surprised if you managed to find a way to
>>try to claim that it is, given your continued frenzied tap dancing to
>>avoid admitting that you screwed up by blaming John Morris for what your
>>ally 'sla...@orbiter.com' did.
>>
>Keyword; "Nizkor" (on all searches)
>
>Now all you html writers know that a meta tag change will be reflected
>when search engines do their search. Anyone want to dispute that?
>
>So Mr. Bojangles you have sunk to even lower levels by trying to blame
>excite. Tells me you liars changed back to the old tag and date
>because your playmates at Bnai Brith were unhappy about the way you
>guys are handling things.
Do please tell us how Excite ranks equal meta tags on searches.
Provide documentation to back up your claims. Also prove Excite has not
changed their algorithms between indexing runs.
"Nizkor Fund" is still one of the meta keywords. Go look.
>You can rant and rave all you like about your 'friend' the
>Sanctimonious Hypocrite John Morris. I have posted the following
>questions everywhere and you refuse to answer.
That too is a lie, deliberate by now as you have been told that I
have posted an answer and that answer is on DejaNews. The question was
posted on Friday and I answered Saturday night.
>You are a real genuine effemintate sniveller, aren't you.
You are a real liar.
Also a coward. I've given you as long to answer my challenge as you
gave me to respond to your post before screaming that I hadn't answered.
I've seen no answer - and I asked you to email me any responses to my
posts.
Charles Power
natio...@juno.com (Michael) writes:
>When did other people become responsible for what the Sanctimonious
>Hypocrite John Morris posts on Usenet? Isn't John responsible for his
>own posts?
He is not responsible for words he quotes from other posts, except
insofar as he must leave them unaltered from the posts where he
finds them.
>You are a real genuine effemintate sniveller, aren't you.
You are a real genuine whining peabrain, aren't you?
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The Obedient Goyim
Looks like Mike Stein wants to join Herman and SOG in the upper level
of the Nizkor Pantheon.
Daniel Keren
mst...@access5.digex.net (Michael P. Stein) writes:
[To Michael <natio...@juno.com>]
# You never tire of proving yourself an ignoramus in
# addition to proving yourself a liar and a coward,
# do you?
Leave him alone, Mr. Stein. The "Mossad" is paying him
good money for the effort he puts into making Nazis
look as dumb as possible. And he's doing a great job.
-Danny Keren.
Gord McFee
In message <5minb5$m...@crack.usaor.net> - i...@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
writes:
:>
:>In message <338BAD...@nbnet.nb.ca> - Keith Morrison
:><lone...@nbnet.nb.ca> writes:
:>:>
:>:>Fafner13 wrote:
:>:>>
:>:>> This post was quite interesting...Jamie is paid from donated funds, but he
:>:>> never stated how much he was paid. There is no scam like a non-profit
:>:>> scam.
:>:>
:>:>generated by the National Alliance end up in Pierce's pockets?
:>
:>That's got absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the ADL funds
:>Nizkor, and works with, and possibly funds, the terroristic ARA. Quit
:>trying to muddy the water by using your patented Nizkook obsfucation
:>techniques.
:>
:>FYI, Dr. Pierce lives very modestly, and certainly isn't making himself
:>rich off the National Alliance.
Well, well, Roggie demands that other folks answer his questions, but
won't answer theirs. Of course, Willy doesn't tell you pathetic little
bum-boys how much he skims off the t.... oops, earns, now does he?
Just think. You losers *pay* him to deny you the right to think for
yourselves. God.
--
Gord McFee
I'll write no line before its time
Michael P. Stein
In article <3392d299...@news2.cais.com>,
The Obedient Goyim <go...@cais.com> wrote:
>
>
>Looks like Mike Stein wants to join Herman and SOG in the upper level
>of the Nizkor Pantheon.
I see you cannot address the facts I have listed about the differences
between the search engines, and must resort to mindless insult.
When you are ready to discuss facts, please do let us know.
Michael
On 2 Jun 1997 09:19:00 -0400, mst...@access5.digex.net (Michael P.
Stein) wrote:
>In article <33967e2d...@news.pnet.net>,
>Michael <natio...@juno.com> wrote:
>>Now all you html writers know that a meta tag change will be reflected
>>when search engines do their search. Anyone want to dispute that?
>
> Yes, I do want to dispute that. Check Infoseek and HotBot. Keyword
>'Nizkor' gives the Nizkor funding page in the top ten, and search on the
>two words Nizkor funding returns the Nizkor funding page on the first hit.
>Altavista performs the same way for "Nizkor funding" but on keyword
>"Nizkor" it returns as its first hit a page from the Netherlands _about_
>Nizkor, and the funding page is not shown until the _sixth_ screen of
>hits.
>
> Therefore the meta keywords must not have complete control of the
>order in which things are returned.
>
> You never tire of proving yourself an ignoramus in addition to proving
>yourself a liar and a coward, do you?
>--
>Mike Stein The above represents the Absolute Truth.
>POB 10420 Therefore it cannot possibly be the official
>Arlington, VA 22210 position of my employer.
You're tapdancing again Mr.Bojangles.
I've checked it all out and of course, you are wrong about the
searches.
BUT, first you did say that you disputed that a meta tag change will
be reflected when search engines do their search. You just didn't
bother us with the astounding detailsof this discovery. Please do so.
Then your education can begin.
Hint: Excite doesn't do a meta tag search.
Hint:"Make your cheques payable to Bnai Brith...." has Disappeared
from Excite! Why and How?
Michael P. Stein
In article <339bd217...@news.pnet.net>,
Michael <natio...@juno.com> wrote:
>On 2 Jun 1997 09:19:00 -0400, mst...@access5.digex.net (Michael P.
>Stein) wrote:
>
>>In article <33967e2d...@news.pnet.net>,
>>Michael <natio...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>Now all you html writers know that a meta tag change will be reflected
>>>when search engines do their search. Anyone want to dispute that?
>>
>> Yes, I do want to dispute that. Check Infoseek and HotBot. Keyword
>>'Nizkor' gives the Nizkor funding page in the top ten, and search on the
>>two words Nizkor funding returns the Nizkor funding page on the first hit.
>>Altavista performs the same way for "Nizkor funding" but on keyword
>>"Nizkor" it returns as its first hit a page from the Netherlands _about_
>>Nizkor, and the funding page is not shown until the _sixth_ screen of
>>hits.
>>
>> Therefore the meta keywords must not have complete control of the
>>order in which things are returned.
>>
>> You never tire of proving yourself an ignoramus in addition to proving
>>yourself a liar and a coward, do you?
>>--
>
>I've checked it all out and of course, you are wrong about the
>searches.
And of course you provide no proof. Lying comes easily to you.
Others may invoke Altavista, Infoseek, and Hotbot and test my claim for
themselves.
As of this writing, Altavista searching for "Nizkor funding" will
return as its first hit the URL
http://indi5.iam.uni-bonn.de/nizkor/funding.html
which contains the B'nai B'rith info. (The B'nai B'rith text is not shown
on the Altavista hit list, but that is simply because of how Altavista
shows its hits.) If the search is on 'Nizkor' only, I get the same URL on
the sixth page (I'm using Lynx).
HotBot shows URL
http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
sixth on a 'Nizkor' search, or first on a 'Nizkor funding' search.
Infoseek shows URL
http://www.nizkor.org/funding.html
ninth on a 'Nizkor' search and first on the two-word search.
>BUT, first you did say that you disputed that a meta tag change will
>be reflected when search engines do their search. You just didn't
>bother us with the astounding detailsof this discovery. Please do so.
>Then your education can begin.
>
>Hint: Excite doesn't do a meta tag search.
Um, I don't know quite how to break the news to you, but you just
admitted that I was right. You just _agreed_ with me that meta tags are
not reflected by Excite. In England they call that an "own goal." I
believe the proper expression on occasions like this is "BWAHAHAHAH!"
Every time I think you can't do anything more stupid, you prove me
wrong. (It seems that is the _only_ way in which you are capable of
proving me wrong.)
>Hint:"Make your cheques payable to Bnai Brith...." has Disappeared
>from Excite! Why and How?
You'll have to ask Excite about that. Infoseek, HotBot, and Altavista
can find it just fine (although Altavista has more trouble than the other
two for just 'Nizkor'). Maybe those wascally JOOS hacked into Excite and
deleted it from their database?
Michael P. Stein
In article <3395bb73...@news.pnet.net>,
Michael <natio...@juno.com> wrote:
[Much juvenile lying and raving by Nationalist deleted]
>>>And explain why you have ignored these:
>>
>> I have not ignored the posts, which 'nationalist' started screaming
>>about 36 hours after he posted the first one. Rather, 'nationalist' has
>>ignored the answer, which is on DejaNews.
>
>13)Well they must love it at DejaNews because they aren't going
>anywhere else. That is if Your Answer is to the 2 questions below.
>Why did you snip them from this post? And the others? Hiding again!
>
>> It is now over 24 hours since I posted it, but I have yet to see
>>"Nationalist's" response to my challenge to put his money where his mouth
>>is.
>14) See below, Mr.Bojangles
>
>Answer:
>
>When did other people become responsible for what the Sanctimonious
>Hypocrite John Morris posts on Usenet? Isn't John responsible for his
>own posts?
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Subject: Re: Mike "Bojangles" Stein----Answer This
From: mst...@access4.digex.net (Michael P. Stein)
Date: 1997/05/31
Message-Id: <5mqkeh$d...@access4.digex.net>
References: <339004a6...@news.pnet.net>
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In article <339004a6...@news.pnet.net>,
Michael <natio...@juno.com> wrote:
>When did other people become responsible for what the Sanctimonious
>Hypocrite John Morris posts on Usenet? Isn't John responsible for his
>own posts?
The only Sanctimonious Hypocrite I see in this exchange is
'nationalist'.
Of course John Morris is responsible for what he posts. But in an
open, unmoderated newsgroup such as this, anyone is free to comment on his
post - and then to comment on the comments of others about his posts. I
am deligted to see that my dissection of his stupidity and dishonesty is
so annoying to 'nationalist' that he must try to tap dance his way out of
trouble by resorting to the rather tired old trick (often seen pulled by
Matt Giwer) of trying to pretend only John Morris may make any comment on
his attacks on John Morris. DejaNews contains examples (supplied upon
request) of the Sanctimonious Hypocrite natio...@juno.com coming to the
defense of his NA buddies, but of course that's part of what makes him a
Sanctimonious Hypocrite.
In fact, the only people who seem _not_ to be responsible for what
they post are 'nationalist' and his NA buddies. The speed with which he
is tap dancing in order to avoid admitting that he unjustly accused John
Morris for what was done by NA sympathizer 'sla...@orbiter.com' is truly
amazing to see.
Not emailed, per request.
--
Mike Stein The above represents the Absolute Truth.
POB 10420 Therefore it cannot possibly be the official
Arlington, VA 22210 position of my employer.
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>Provide this:
>
>Post your bank account number, sign an authorization of release and
>post your bank information for this newsgroup. You have nothing to
>hide. Right?
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Subject: Nationalist continues to tapdance
From: mst...@access2.digex.net (Michael P. Stein)
Date: 1997/06/02
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In article <3393453a...@news.pnet.net>,
Michael <natio...@juno.com> wrote:
>On 2 Jun 1997 16:43:28 -0400, mst...@access5.digex.net (Michael P.
>Stein) wrote:
>
>> This is of course a conscious lie. The answer was posted and you have
>>already been told several times that it is on DejaNews.
>
>Just name the thread.
I see that you are starting to get senile, since you can't even
remember your own thread. Look for:
Subject: Re: Mike "Bojangles" Stein----Answer This
on DejaNews. I did not change the subject line.
Upon your posting a reply to this post, any subsequent request you
make of me constitutes permission to email you one copy of the answer, and
twice as many copies each time you post a claim that I have not answered,
doubling each time you make such a claim. Since you will have solicited
the mail, it cannot be called a mailbombing.
>>>John, what are you doing about those 6 Million jews that you can't
>>>account for? Remember, the population figures in Table 2? That's the
>>>table you intentionally left out of your 'refutation' to my post.
>>
>> His reply was posted. I saw it. Go look for it, liar.
>
>His 'reply left out Table 2
His most recent reply indicated the reason for that.
>>>Now quit soiling your panties
>
>> Pot, kettle, black. There seem to be quite a few brown stains on
>>Nationalist's own pants from my little challenge to put his money where
>>his mouth was.
>
>Post your bank account number, sign an authorization of release and
>post your bank information for this newsgroup. You have nothing to
>hide. Right?
If you have changed your mind, and this is an acceptance of the
challenge, please say so explicitly. If so, I will draw up a formal
statement of the case, giving you another chance to run away, and will
begin the process of determining costs. In the unlikely event that you do
not chicken out again, when ready to proceed, an escrow agent will be
selected (subject to your agreement) who will receive from both of us the
necessary authorizations to transfer the requisite amount - no transfer
will be made until and unless both of us have transmitted the necessary
information and the escrow agent has determined there are sufficient funds
available in both accounts to effect the simultaneous transfer.
In other words, you get nothing unless you indicate you're willing to
get serious. If this is not an acceptance of the challenge - and I'm
quite confident it isn't - then I will not play your juvenile game.
--
Mike Stein The above represents the Absolute Truth.
POB 10420 Therefore it cannot possibly be the official
Arlington, VA 22210 position of my employer.
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>As for you, Bojangles. Including my thumb, I've got 5 fingers on my
>hand. One of them is waving at you!
I'm sure the lurkers are impressed by your maturity and intelligence.
Do please continue to show what superior intellects you Noble Aryan
Warriors have. Dr. Pierce must sleep soundly at night knowing that such a
fine specimen as you is helping to recruit for the cause.
CENT...@ix.netcom.com
In article <5n0b3s$1...@access2.digex.net>,
mst...@access.digex.net wrote:
>
> In article <3392d299...@news2.cais.com>,
> The Obedient Goyim <go...@cais.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Looks like Mike Stein wants to join Herman and SOG in the upper level
> >of the Nizkor Pantheon.
>
> I see you cannot address the facts I have listed about the differences
> between the search engines, and must resort to mindless insult.
>
> When you are ready to discuss facts, please do let us know.
> Mike Stein The above represents the Absolute Truth.
> POB 10420 Therefore it cannot possibly be the official
> Arlington, VA 22210 position of my employer.
>Stein,You are a contemptible liar!If you think that the public
is gullible enough to believe your swill,then you are dumber
than you look.When are you going to come clean on the holohoax
and use the truth?Don't waste our time unless your'e serious!
signed, Centurio. http://www.natall.com
-------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
Jenn Starkman
In article <5minb5$m...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (Roger Hughes) wrote:
>In message <338BAD...@nbnet.nb.ca> - Keith Morrison
><lone...@nbnet.nb.ca> writes:
>:>
>:>Fafner13 wrote:
>:>>
>:>> This post was quite interesting...Jamie is paid from donated funds, but
>:>> he never stated how much he was paid. There is no scam like a non-profit
>:>> scam.
>:>
>:>What is William Pierce's salary? What percentage of the monies
>:>generated by the National Alliance end up in Pierce's pockets?
>
>That's got absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the ADL funds
>Nizkor,
Fact? The only fact here is that it has been made very clear that the ADL
does NOT fund Nizkor.
I challenge you to prove otherwise.
>and works with, and possibly funds, the terroristic ARA.
What does that have to do with how Jamie is paid?
>Quit trying to muddy the water by using your patented Nizkook obsfucation
>techniques.
This from a man who asked a question about the salary of someone at Nizkor,
and then started babbling about the ADL's connections to ARA. Muddy water,
anyone?
>FYI, Dr. Pierce lives very modestly, and certainly isn't making himself
>rich off the National Alliance.
Well hell, if that's to be considered an acceptable answer, then:
Jamie lives very modestly, and certainly isn't making himself rich off of
Nizkor.
Argument settled. Boy, that was easy.
Jenn
******
Note: I am no longer using my freenet or Netcom e-mail accounts
in order to protect those servers from the mailbombing which I
have been subjected to recently. Anybody who would like to contact
me via e-mail should leave a message on alt.skinheads to that effect,
and I will be in touch with you.
Roger Hughes
In message <5n2nlg$o...@freenet-news.carleton.ca> -
bb...@freenet.carleton.ca (Jenn Starkman)Wed, 04 Jun 97 03:22:29 GMT
writes:
:>Fact? The only fact here is that it has been made very clear that the ADL
:>does NOT fund Nizkor.
:>
:>I challenge you to prove otherwise.
McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just
because the ADL doesn't have an explicit budget for Nizkor, then to you
its irrelavent. As long as those bastards at the ADL have anything to do
with Nizkor's funding, that makes whatever they do give dirty money.
:>>and works with, and possibly funds, the terroristic ARA.
:>
:>What does that have to do with how Jamie is paid?
Silly girl! Let me spell it out for you once again:
First, the ARA is a terrorist organization which has been connected to
fire-bombings mail-bombings, and other violence.
Second, the ADL works with and probably funds the ARA, thus making them
accomplices, or, at the very least, giving their approval of the ARA's
terrorism.
Third, the ADL directs funding to Nizkor.
:>>FYI, Dr. Pierce lives very modestly, and certainly isn't making himself
:>>rich off the National Alliance.
:>
:>Well hell, if that's to be considered an acceptable answer, then:
:>
:>Jamie lives very modestly, and certainly isn't making himself rich off of
:>Nizkor.
Dr. Pierce isn't funded by the likes of the ADL. That was the point of
that discussion. The implication was that he lives an extravagant
lifestyle off the donations of NA members, which is total hogwash.
:>Argument settled. Boy, that was easy.
Yeah right. Dream on.
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Michael P. Stein
In article <5n400d$s...@crack.usaor.net>, Roger Hughes <i...@usaor.net> wrote:
>In message <5n2nlg$o...@freenet-news.carleton.ca> -
>bb...@freenet.carleton.ca (Jenn Starkman)Wed, 04 Jun 97 03:22:29 GMT
>writes:
[...]
>Silly girl! Let me spell it out for you once again:
>
>First, the ARA is a terrorist organization which has been connected to
>fire-bombings mail-bombings, and other violence.
>
>Second, the ADL works with and probably funds the ARA, thus making them
>accomplices, or, at the very least, giving their approval of the ARA's
>terrorism.
>
>Third, the ADL directs funding to Nizkor.
>
>
>:>>FYI, Dr. Pierce lives very modestly, and certainly isn't making himself
>:>>rich off the National Alliance.
>:>
>:>Well hell, if that's to be considered an acceptable answer, then:
>:>
>:>Jamie lives very modestly, and certainly isn't making himself rich off of
>:>Nizkor.
>
>Dr. Pierce isn't funded by the likes of the ADL. That was the point of
>that discussion. The implication was that he lives an extravagant
>lifestyle off the donations of NA members, which is total hogwash.
Quite true, I'm sure. Dr. Pierce is funded by, among other sources of
income, purchases of his book "The Turner Diaries." One of whose avid
readers, if my completely unreliable eyewitness testimony can be believed,
was recently associated with a certain terrorist bombing.
Posted/emailed.
Roger Hughes
In message <5n4dci$p...@access5.digex.net> - mst...@access5.digex.net
(Michael P. Stein) writes:
:>
:>In article <5n400d$s...@crack.usaor.net>, Roger Hughes <i...@usaor.net> wrote:
:>>Dr. Pierce isn't funded by the likes of the ADL. That was the point of
:>>that discussion. The implication was that he lives an extravagant
:>>lifestyle off the donations of NA members, which is total hogwash.
:>
:> Quite true, I'm sure. Dr. Pierce is funded by, among other sources of
:>income, purchases of his book "The Turner Diaries." One of whose avid
:>readers, if my completely unreliable eyewitness testimony can be believed,
:>was recently associated with a certain terrorist bombing.
Big deal! There's only been a quarter of a million people who've read
the TD. What's your point?
Ken P
I remember hearing that the man convicted of the OKC bombing also had in his
possession at the time of his arrest, copies of the U.S. Constitution and the
Federalist Papers.
Ken P.
Question authority
Ken McVay
In article <5n400d$s...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (William "Ian
McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:
>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just
The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana)
Ergo, I have made no such "admission."
>First, the ARA is a terrorist organization which has been connected to
>fire-bombings mail-bombings, and other violence.
Which fire-bombing and/or mail bombings has this group been
"connected to?" When were these charges laid? (Sorry, no banana)
>Second, the ADL works with and probably funds the ARA, thus making them
>accomplices, or, at the very least, giving their approval of the ARA's
>terrorism.
How do you know that the ADL funds the ARA? Where can this
information be found? (Sorry, no banana)
>Third, the ADL directs funding to Nizkor.
The ADL has absolutely nothing to do with my funding. Canadian
funding is collected and dispersed by the League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada, which is not part of the ADL, although it is
associated with that organization (and a good many others) as a
partner. The League is strictly Canadian, and its Director does not
work for, or report to, the ADL, which is an American group.
(Sorry...)
The B'nai Brith Foundation, which receives funds donated to The
Nizkor Project by Canadians, and which issues tax receipts, neither
funds my work nor controls or influences how the donated funds are
dispersed, I do. The ADL is not a part of the B'nai Brith Foundation.
(...no banana)
Your revelations with respect to the Nizkor Project, Mr. Scott, are
no more factual than your revelations concerning history, but do keep
trying.
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-----------------------| Remember John Hron
|--------------------------------------
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HM Murdock
> Quite true, I'm sure. Dr. Pierce is funded by, among other sources of
> income, purchases of his book "The Turner Diaries."
Oh my stars!! What a scandal you have uncovered! Someone wrote a book, and
is paid for the work of writing the book?!?! I had no idea such a terrible
thing could happen. If you don't like it, don't buy the book!
I work hard at my job and put in 10 hour days. But, of course if I expect
to be paid for it, you wouldn't approve of that.
>One of those avid readers, if my completely unreliable eyewitness
testimony >can be believed,
> was recently associated with a certain terrorist bombing.
Well, if your "completely unreliable eyewitness testimony" can be believed,
I think that explains much of why you might believe in the "holacaust"
exagerations! Thanks for your candidness!
> Posted/emailed.
> --
> Mike Stein The above represents the Absolute Truth.
Yeah, Mike Stein, A legend in his own mind!
> POB 10420 Therefore it cannot possibly be the official
> Arlington, VA 22210 position of my employer!
Really, one who would claim "completely
unreliable eyewitness testimony" as a source of information would be a poor
employee to have around! But, such honesty and candidness as to admit that
one's opinions are based on "unreliable eyewitness testimony" might be a
redeeming characteristic
The "Turner Diaries is available at
http://www.natvan.com
http://www.natall.com
Read it and think for yourself!
Regards,
HM
John Morris
In <Pine.SOL.3.96.97060...@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA>,
Laura Finsten <fin...@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA> wrote:
[to the Big Old Kook re: the National Alliance swarming of
alt.reviionism]
>I don't know who the wizard coordinating your "mission" is, but he might
>want to think about what you're doing. If your objective is to drive
>away Nizkor supporters and others who are willing to challenge deniers'
>misrepresentations, omissions and lies, you're kidding yourselves. You
>aren't going to create a "clear ground" for Holocaust denial here.
>Most of us are very persistent.
I've been here over three years. I survived the Giwer spam attack and
didn't even get the T-shirt.
> All you do is make the connection between
>Holocaust denial, antisemitism and extreme racist right wing politics as
>clear as a bell to any reader with half a brain. If your objective is to
>recruit to your cause, you probably aren't interested in that segment of
>the readership, though.
Somehow I don't think if they had the brains to realize what they are
doing that they would be National Alliance members in the first place.
--
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Scripture veteris capiunt exempla futuri>
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Ken McVay
In article <Pine.SOL.3.96.97060...@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA>,
Laura Finsten <fin...@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA> wrote:
>The information about Nizkor funding is available on the Nizkor site. Why
>don't you get off your White ass and check it out? You and your Nazional
>Appliance cronies have made repeated accusations that everyone here
>associated with Nizkor and many who are not are "paid agents" of the ADL
>and/or Israel. But has one of you presented anything vaguely resembling
>proof to support that? Nope. You haven't, and you can't because it isn't
>true. The continued harping on this delusion of yours serves only to
>underscore further your deeply ingrained antisemitism, and your absolute
>bankruptcy when it comes to refuting the arguments put forth against
>deniers' claims.
Well spoken, Agent Finsten. Your monthly stipend has been increased
to $125,000.00, the condo on Maui has been refurbished (Griswold left
rather a mess) and the Ferrari tuned. I'd have returned to yacht, but
McFee flat refused to consider it.
PS - Vinnie says lighten up... it's all well and good to "argue" with
him in the newsgroups, but he feels you are being a bit more
enthusiastic about "humiliating" him than you need to be, and Ma Bok
is starting to ask him why he's working for us, what with all the
abuse.
Laura Finsten
On 6 Jun 1997, Ken McVay wrote:
> Well spoken, Agent Finsten. Your monthly stipend has been increased
> to $125,000.00, the condo on Maui has been refurbished (Griswold left
> rather a mess) and the Ferrari tuned. I'd have returned to yacht, but
> McFee flat refused to consider it.
It's about time, McVay. By the way, you _are_ planning to cough up for
Mike Stein's pizza equalisation payments, aren't you? I can't believe the
whining... But you know, if he gets pizza as well as a beer, that means
that you also owe me an Okanagon Springs Porter.
> PS - Vinnie says lighten up... it's all well and good to "argue" with
> him in the newsgroups, but he feels you are being a bit more
> enthusiastic about "humiliating" him than you need to be, and Ma Bok
> is starting to ask him why he's working for us, what with all the
> abuse.
Oops. I do tend to go overboard on the double agents, don't I.
Will Williams
ke...@usaor.net (Ken P) wrote:
>(Roger Hughes) wrote:
>>(Michael P. Stein) writes:
>>:> Roger Hughes <i...@usaor.net> wrote:
>>:>>Dr. Pierce isn't funded by the likes of the ADL. That was the point of
>>:>>that discussion. The implication was that he lives an extravagant
>>:>>lifestyle off the donations of NA members, which is total hogwash.
Many of the comments by these Jews and Nizkoreans about Dr. Pierce
living extravagantly off the dues of NA members, or of working for the
FBI, being a "cult guru," or whatever else, originated from one Harold
Covington of the of the suddenly ubiquitous "NSWPP" (Nearly Solipsist
White People's Party). I notice the J&N's, and others who should know
better, repeating Covington's worn out lies about the late Ben Klassen
("Benny Buttf*ck" if you prefer) as well.
I have filed a personal libel suit against Covington for publishing
statements saying I have committed specific acts of assassination,
mass murder, arson, theft, etc., etc., -- all while working for Morris
Dees and JOG, AND, while running a sodomy cult. Whew! Oh yeah, I also
somehow found the time to single-handedly destroy EIGHT pro-White
organizations in as many years.
Defendant Covington likes to characterize my libel suit against him as
a "nuisance suit brought by the National Alliance." My claim is a
nuisance suit only in that I've had enough of this nuisance, this
gadfly Covington, and am taking my grievance to a court of law where
I'll establish the mendacity of Harold Covington once and for all. I
may even establish his motives for smearing White patriots.
Covington is a lightweight. This case will be a good test of our
judicial system on the limits of "free speech" however, and is my
contribution toward policing the loosely-structured White resistance
movement of a perennially disruptive influence. NA has nothing to do
with my case against HC.
>>:>Quite true, I'm sure. Dr. Pierce is funded by, among other sources of
>>:>income, purchases of his book "The Turner Diaries." One of whose avid
>>:>readers, if my completely unreliable eyewitness testimony can be believed,
>>:>was recently associated with a certain terrorist bombing.
I'm not sure if this Jew is referring to Covington's oft-repeated
canard that I am John Doe #2, or to the fact that Tim McVeigh liked to
curl up to the Turner Diaries each night. Regardless, what do the
acts of "avid readers" of a book have to do with that book's author or
how he chooses to spend the money of those books he has authored an
published?
For the record, Dr. Pierce took a vow of poverty 30 years ago to
devote his life to White renewal. Every cent he gets goes into
Alliance-building or building the Voice. Dr. Pierce lives very
frugally and still resides in the 25+ year old, modest mobile home
which he purchased 12 years ago. Anyone who says different is a liar.
>>Big deal! There's only been a quarter of a million people who've read
>>the TD. What's your point?
It's true, Ken, that about a quarter million copies of the Turner
Diaries have been sold over the last 20 years or so. But TD is one of
the most passed-around underground classics ever written, and is now
even available on audio tape; I wouldn't be surprised if several
million people have read TD by now, many, several times.
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>>**********************************************************
>>The National Alliance is the foremost racial separatist
>>organization for White men and women. Hear the NA's
>>Internet broadcasts at:
>>
>> http://www.natall.com
>> http://www.natvan.com
>I remember hearing that the man convicted of the OKC bombing also had in his
>possession at the time of his arrest, copies of the U.S. Constitution and the
>Federalist Papers.
I remember hearing that John Wayne Gacey and Jeff Dahmer were avid
readers of the Jewish Scriptures. Should we hold the Jews responsible
somehow for the acts of avid readers of the atrocities of their Bible?
Maybe so.
>Ken P.
>Question authority
Speaking as an individual,
Will W. Williams
Rich Graves
In article <5nibgo$5...@camel4.mindspring.com>,
Will Williams <whit...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>"NSWPP" (Defendant Harold Covington) wrote:
>
>>Will Williams wrote:
>>[expose snipped]
>
>> The National Alliance--a group of people passionately dedicated
>>to the proposition that paying Bill Pierce's mortgage is a revolutionary
>>act.
>> - HAROLD COVINGTON
>
>Again, Dr. Pierce has no mortgage. It's easy to check out. You are a
>professional liar!
>
>I'm one bastard that's going to enjoy wearing your chubby little ass
>down to a nub.
Please, take it to alt.backrubs, gentlemen.
John Morris
In <339C73...@earthlink.net>, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Will Williams wrote:
>[Gibberish snipped]
> The National Alliance--a group of people passionately dedicated
>to the proposition that paying Bill Pierce's mortgage is a revolutionary
>act.
I think it would be awfully nice if you idiots took your internal cult
squabbles to private e-mail.
The BOK
On Mon, 09 Jun 1997 14:19:37 -0700, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Will Williams wrote:
>[Gibberish snipped]
>
> The National Alliance--a group of people passionately dedicated
>to the proposition that paying Bill Pierce's mortgage is a revolutionary
>act.
Please tell us all where you work Winston. Where is your income
derived from?
Vincent
"Our task in not to persuade a numerical majority of the American
population that we are right, but rather to build the numerical
minority whose values coincide with ours into a majority of will and
determination."
-Dr. William L. Pierce, First General Convention of the National
Alliance, Sept. 2, 1978.
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Michael P. Stein
In article <339d6362...@news.srv.ualberta.ca>,
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
>In <339C73...@earthlink.net>, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>Will Williams wrote:
>>[Gibberish snipped]
>
>> The National Alliance--a group of people passionately dedicated
>>to the proposition that paying Bill Pierce's mortgage is a revolutionary
>>act.
>
>squabbles to private e-mail.
And deprive the rest of us of the entertainment? Heavens!
--
Mike Stein The above represents the Absolute Truth.
POB 10420 Therefore it cannot possibly be the official
Arlington, VA 22210 position of my employer.
Gord McFee
On Sat, 7 Jun 1997 21:46:03 -0400, Laura Finsten wrote:
:>On 6 Jun 1997, Ken McVay wrote:
:>
:>> Well spoken, Agent Finsten. Your monthly stipend has been increased
:>> to $125,000.00, the condo on Maui has been refurbished (Griswold left
:>> rather a mess) and the Ferrari tuned. I'd have returned to yacht, but
:>> McFee flat refused to consider it.
:>
:>It's about time, McVay. By the way, you _are_ planning to cough up for
:>Mike Stein's pizza equalisation payments, aren't you? I can't believe the
:>whining... But you know, if he gets pizza as well as a beer, that means
:>that you also owe me an Okanagon Springs Porter.
Oh no you don't. He still owes me a Guiness.
Will Williams
(Cliff Swiger) wrote:
>"NSWPP" (Harold Covington) wrote:
>>Will Williams wrote:
>>[Covington expose snipped]
>>
>> The National Alliance--a group of people passionately dedicated
>>to the proposition that paying Bill Pierce's mortgage is a revolutionary
>>act.
>I do not know what your true motivations are for doing what you do.
Hey, Cliff! Long time, no see. Don't expect Covington to answer this
inquiry either sensibly or truthfully.
>I do not live far from the National Alliance headquarters and have
>visited there two times. Dr. Pierce lives in a remote part of West
>Virgina in conditions that many could not withstand. He has a medium
>sized farm house with several smaller out buildings in addition to a
>recently fabricated structure where he operates from. Dr. Pierce is a
>very mild mannered and intelligent individual who is always busy with
>a number of projects. On one of my visits there, I helped him
>construct and install a studded wall that was to serve as a partion.
>On both occasions I helped package a large number of book orders, once
>with Mr. Williams. I just do not understand why you consistently
>attack individuals with slanderous lies. I'm also a former reverend of
>the Church of the Creator and you made boisterous false claims against
>Ben Klassen.
As far as I'm concerned Blen Klassen's death is on Covington's bloody
hands. Everything Covington has been smearing Klassen with for over
eight years is *totally* fabricated. Klassen was not a Jew! He was
neither a queer nor a pedophile! Klassen worked hard for our people
and gave generously to carry things forward.
He has done the same in smearing Dr. Pierce, Kevin Strom, the
Metzgers, Resistance Records, and anyone else remotely perceived as
being other than a "Christian patriot." Could that be the connection?
RAHOWA!
Do we need to be a White movement or do we need to be a Xtian
movement? That is the question, as usual.
We are rare Alliance members, Cliff. Most in NA have never been in
another group and have never heard of Harold Covington. It's awful
that we must endure the calumny and lies of our enemies, but that
comes with being active in the struggle. And that is exactly what
Covington has become -- our enemy!
>I've read much of the information you've been posting in this and
>other news groups and agree much with what you have to say...
Too bad! You should know better. That's his ploy: bait the idealistic
newcomer with high-minded "movement" material, mostly "borrowed" from
others (Beam, Rockwell, Yockey, Pierce, etc.), then, once the
newcomer is engaged by Covington, he starts getting the smears. Most
are so turned off they pull back in disgust.
>...However, I
>often wonder if you are not simply trying to divert others away from
>honest organizations in attempt to render them ineffective.
I believe it's more sinister than that. I intend to dig deep until I
get satisfactory answers. I encourage all to write Covington privately
asking for all the details on Will Williams being John Doe #2, etc.
and then mail me his answers so I can use it in my libel suit against
him.
The latest rumor I heard today was that I was behind the Atlanta
bombings. A friend was visited by both the FBI and ATF today. One of
the questions asked was, "Is Will Williams the kind of guy who would
do those bombings?" I must assume at this point that the rumor
originated with Covington. He has established a pattern of that.
Cliff, to Hell with Covington's "good posts;" anyone can selectively
ape our sentiments. He is insufferable slime. Treat him accordingly.
"Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus."
Best wishes and regards to the family,
\|/
| Will
>Cliff Swiger
>http://www.natall.com
>http://www.natvan.com
NSWPP
Will Williams wrote:
[Drivel snipped]
"Illegitimi non Carborundem"
Fafner13
The first date at which the Zohar is definitely known to have appeared is
the end of the 13th century, when it was committed to writing by a Spanish
Jew, Moses de Leon, who according to Ginsburg, said he had discovered and
reproduced the original document of Simon ben Jochai; his wife and
daughter, however, declared that he had composed it all himself. Which is
the truth? Jewish opinion is strongly divided on this question, one body
maintaining that the Zohar is the comparatively modern work of Moses de
Leon, the others declaring it to be of extreme antiquity..........
Obviously the Zohar was not the composition of Moses de Leon, buta
compilation made by him from various documents dating from very early
times. Those who deny its antiquity are the anti-Cabalists, headed by
Graetz, whose object is to prove the Cabala to be at variance with
Orthodox Judaism. Theodore Reinach goes so far as to declare the Cabala
to be "a subtle poison which enters the veins of Judaism and wholly
infests it", Salomon Reinach calls it "one of the worst aberrations of the
human mind."
This view, many a student of the Cabala will hardly dispute, but to say
that it is foreign to Judaism is another matter. The FACT is that he main
ideas of the Zohar find confirmation in the Talmud. As the Jewish
Encyclopedia observes: "the Cabala is not really in opposition to the
Talmud," and many "many Talmudic Jews have supported and contributed to
it." Adolphe Franck does not hesitate to describe it as "the heart and
soul of Judaism." The greater number of the most eminent Rabbis of the
17th and 18th centuries believed firmly in the the sacredness of the Zohar
and the infallibility of its teaching. (The Messiah Idea, Greenstone, p.
229.)
The question of the antiquity of the Cabala is therefore in reality
largely a matter of names. That a mystical tradition existed amongst the
Jews from remote antiquity will hardly be denied by anyone. The historian
Edershein in his book, Jewish Society in the Time of Jesus Christ, notes:
It is undeniable that, already at the time of Jesus Christ, there existed
an assemblage of doctrines and speculations that were carefully concealed
from he multitude. They were not even revealed to ordinary scholars, for
fear of leading them towards heretical ideas. This kind bore the name of
Kabbalah, and is the term (of Kabbalah, to receive, transmit) indicates,
it represented the spiritual traditions transmitted from the earliest
ages, although mingled in the course of time with impure or foreign
elements.
What does all this mean to the layman? Here we have a tradition, both
secret, and yet, openly disputed by some and accepted by others, with-held
from both scholars and the multitudes. It is condemned by a number of
mainstream Jewish historians, yet embraced by others. To what purpose?
It appears that the Cabalists became a radical sect within Judaism, much
like the murderous Thugs devoted to Kali the Destroyer in India.
Is the Cabala, then, as Gougenot des Mousseaux asserts, older than the
Jewish race, a lagacy handed down from the first patriarchs of the world?
(Note that the first edition of Mousseaux's book, published in 1869, is
said to have been bought up and destroyed by the Jews, and the author died
a "sudden" death befoe the second edition could be published.
The Jewish Cabala itself supports the idea of an ancient legacy, by
tracing its descent from the patriarchs-Adam, Noah, Enoch, and Abraham-who
lived before the Jews as a separate race came into existence. Eliaphas
Levi, the French Occultist, accepts this genealogy and relates that the
"Holy Cabala" was the tradition of the children of Seth (Set-The
Destroyer) carried out of Chaldea by Abraham, who was "the inheiritor of
the secrets of Enoch and the father of the initiation of Israel."
End of Part Two
NSWPP
Will Williams wrote:
[deranged ravings omitted]
"Illegitimi non Carborundem"
Jamie McCarthy
John....@UAlberta.CA (John Morris) wrote:
> Boy, I'll bet Mark Weber is tickled pink by your support.
Why shouldn't he be? Weber used to work for the National Alliance.
--
Jamie McCarthy http://www.absence.prismatix.com/jamie/
ja...@nizkor.org Director of Operations, The Nizkor Project
http://www.nizkor.org/
Cliff Swiger
On Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:38:54 -0700, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Will Williams wrote:
> [Drivel snipped]
>
>The National Alliance---a group of people passionately dedicated to the
>proposition that paying Bill Pierce's mortgage is a revolutionary act.
You're speaking for our group, Mr. Covington? Or is this yet another
of your baseless and ludicrous opinions? I certainly support Dr.
Pierce and the National Alliance but it is based upon the ideology of
the National Alliance. If you've got evidence that Dr. Pierce uses our
dues payments to pay on a mortgage, then let's have it. Otherwise,
shut your Jew loving mouth!
So come on, I've replied to several of you posts in a detailed manner
yet you continuously avoided them.
Cliff Swiger
http://www.natvan.com
http://www.natall.com
NSWPP
Will Williams wrote:
[demented tirade snipped]
Jesus, Will. You really don't have a clue, do you?
Will Williams
"NSWPP" (Harold Covington) wrote:
>Cliff Swiger wrote:
>>" NSWPP" (Harold Covington) wrote:
>>
>> >in 1966 when he joined Commander Rockwell's group, and from that day to
>> >this he has never done a single day's "honest work" in his life.
>>
>> I differ with you entirely. I've visited Dr.Pierce on two occasions at
>> National Alliance headquarters in Mill Point, West Virginia. Prior to
>> my first visit, I envisioned at least something similar to the Jewish
>> depicted "fenced in compound" that appeared in some media
>> publications. Instead, Dr. Pierce purchased around 300 acres of remote
>> land with a medium sized farm house and several out buildings.
> The question of where he got the money to purchase that land is
>a very interesting one. Informer Glenn Miller, admittedly not a
>disinterested source, testified at the 1988 Fort Smith Sedition trial
>that Pierce received $200,000 or more from the Order armored car
>robbery...
Why would you quote perjured testimony of a man who is in the witness
protection program for flipping on the Ft. Smith Defendants, a man who
was your protege and who you refer to as an incompetent drunk?
Why didn't Mathews give you any booty, Covington? If he were here
today, I'm sure he'd want to talk to you. If Hitler were here, he'd
cut your throat for being a disruptive rebel. That's too good for you
at this point. I'm enjoying watching you slowly go crazy.
>Dr. Pierce built his movement from the ground up with a lot of
>> dedication, expense and hard work. As you well know, he could have
>> easily fallen within the Jewish establishment and continued his career
>> as a physics professor. But instead, he sought to disseminate the
>> truth on critical issues that were and are affecting the White race
>> and Western civilization.
>>
>> I'm 37 years old and have been involved with the National Alliance for
>> about 10 years. I can attest to this organization's exponential growth
> There is no "exponential growth". The stolen NA mailing list,
>which I am required by a court injunction to pretend sprouted wings and
>flew out of the window of Pierce's office one day, ...
Is this the phantom list you keep saying I stole and sold?
What is the date of that injunction? Why is it not in the case file?
Did you steal it? Why would you want to misrepresent our little libel
suit, Mr. Defendant? Why can you not just tell the truth for once?
>>...and effect on the political climate today. Dr. Pierce is an excellent
>> organizer and a very intelligent man.
>William L. Pierce is an incompetent weakling who is completely
>incapable of taking an interest or controlling the behavior of his
>subordinates, one subordinate in particular.
>>Mr. Covington, if you are indeed
>> in support of National Socialist ideology, why do you persist in the
>> character attack of those who are substantial leaders in our struggle.
> Because they are not "substantial leaders:, they are corrupt
>confidence tricksters who are not interested in the cause but in
>enriching themselves for a comfortable retirement. And by the way, I do
>not "attack everybody" as you have heard. I publicly criticize TWO
>people, Tom Metzger and William L. Pierce.
Ha! I can name 20 or 30 right off the top of my head. You lie like a
rug.
>These men are hardly
>"everybody" in the Movement and I am rather surprised no one has yet
>picked up on the sheer arrogance of the assertion that these two
>individuals constitute "everybody" engaged in White resistance activity.
>> Individuals like Dr. Pierce, the late Ben Klassen and Mr. Will
>> Williams? I'd really like to know.
>>
> Ben Klassen was a homosexual rapist and in my view a racial Jew
>as well...
You will pay and pay dearly for this smear alone.
> If Dr. Pierce is really the mature wonderful revolutionary you
>say he is, then perhaps you'd best advise him of what is going on down
>here and suggest to him that it is time he asserted his authority over
>one of his supposed subordinates who is inciting other NA people to act
>like a pack of deranged gibbons.
Is that the Dr. Pierce who is the "incompetent weakling" you were just
rambling about? I doubt you'll be able to bend his ear with any of
your puny suggestions.
>Harold Covington
>www.fraud.org
If you didn't want your ass kicked you shouldn't have picked the
fight. I'll take care of you without Dr. Pierce having to dirty his
hands. He is a busy man. But I've got plenty of free time now to
concentrate on making your world miserable.
Speaking for myself only,
Will W. Williams, Plaintiff
Fafner13
Indeed, the words written in the Talmud concerning Christ smack of
diabolism, plain and simple, and a rancor beyond belief. One might look
in vain for passages such as these in English or French translations of
the Talmud, for the reason that no complete translation existed in these
languages. This fact is of great significance. While the sacred books of
every other religion have been rendered into our own tongue and were open
to everyone to study, the book that forms the foundation of modern Judaism
was closed to the general public. In fact, it has been noted that a
Gentile who presumes to study the Talmud, should be slain! We could read
complete English translations of the Koran, of the Dhammapada, of the
Sutta Nipata, of the Zend Avesta, of the Shu King, of the Laws of Manu, of
the Bhagavadgita, but we could NOT read the Talmud. In the long series of
Sacred Books of the East the Talmud finds no place. All that was
accessible to the ordinary reader consisted, on one hand, in expurgated
versions or judicious selections by Jewish and pro-Jewish compilers, and,
on the other hand, in "anti-Semitc" publications on which it might proven
dangerous to place reliance. The principal English translation by
Rodkinson was VERY incomplete, and the folios are nowhere indicated, so
that it is impossible to look up a passage. A French transaltion by Jean
de Pavly professed to present the entire text of the Venetian Talmud of
1520, but it does nothing of the kind. The translator, in the preface,
admitted that he had left out "sterile discussions" and had throughout
attempted to tone down "the brutality of certain expressions which offend
our ears." This of course afforded him infinite latitude, ao that all
passages likely to prove displeasing to the Hebrews, to whom his work was
dedicated, were discreetly expunged. Moreover, eben the Hebrew scholar is
obliged to exercise some discrimination if he desires to consult the
Talmud in its original form. For by the 16th century, when the study of
Hebrew became general among the Christians the anti-social and
anti-Christian tendencies of the Talmud attracted the attention of the
Censor, and in the Baele Talmud of 1581 the most obnoxious passages and
the entire treatise Abodah Zara were suppressed. In the Cracow edition of
1604 that followed, these passages were restored by the Jews, a proceeding
which aroused so much indignation amongst the Christian students of hebrew
that the Jews became alarmed. Accordingly a Jewish synod, assembled in
Poland in 1631, ordered the offending passages to be expunged again, but
were to be replaced by circles which the Rabbis were to fill in orally
when giving instructions to young Jews. The text of the Jewish encyclical
was as follows:
"That is why we enjoin you, under pain of excommunication major, to print
nothing in future editions, whether of the Mischna or of the Gemara, which
relates whether for good or for evil to the acts of Jesus the Nazarene,
and to substitute instead a circle like this O, which will warn the Rabbis
and schoolmasters to teach the young these passages only viva voce. By
means of this precaution the savants amongst the Nazarenes will have no
further pretext to attack us on this subject." (Abbe Chiarini, "The
Babylonian Talmud, p. 45. 1831).
End of Part Two.
NSWPP
[From 16 November 1996]
THE SLIPPAGE OF SANITY
This evening I want to broach a subject that I think all of us
have noticed and wondered about. It's a phenomenon which has been
present for a number of years in Western society as a whole and North
American society in particular, but it has gotten noticeably worse in
the past ten years. In fact, I swear it's gotten worse since I first
came onto the Internet in July. The Net seems to have aggravated or
accelerated this phenomenon in quantum leaps. I refer to the fact that
a growing segment of our population is looney tunes.
Tonight I received a message from a prominent Nizkorite which
was, quite simply, insane. I am not saying that because I dislike this
man, although I do. I am not saying it to belittle him or insult him. I
am not saying it because I disagree with his political and racial views,
insofar as he seems to have any. I am not saying this because in his
raving he attacked me. I am saying this because to any rational person,
of any race or viewpoint, the communication I received was insane. There
is simply no other word for it. The man who wrote it is not aware of the
fact that he is insane and to my understanding holds a prominent
position in a university, which is really scary.
This message contained a reference to several web pages,
including a section of the Nizkor site. One of them seems to have been
pulled off the air by the server, probably on some grounds of
criminality or madness, and one of the others contains something so
infantile and utterly silly that it is almost impossible to believe
that it is the work of adults. And yet it is. The only possible
conclusion for any reasonable observer of normal intelligence and
maturity is that the people responsible for it are mentally disturbed,
and again I emphasize that this is a calm and calculated response on
my part, one which I think anyone else would make.
Nizkor is a prominent example of what I am talking about; their
playgroups have deteriorated just in the months I've been monitoring
them to the point where they are simply incoherent, and there is no
point in even attempting to follow the "threads"; they are just static
in which one struggles vainly to detect some whispers of intelligent
life. Nor can I understand why the "monitors" allow some of the posts
at all, especially from the heart-rendingly pathetic Andrew Mathis.
Mathis especially is clearly in need of psychiatric help, and for them
to allow him to continue in his present course of behavior and even
encourage it is cruel and contemptible. It almost reminds one of the
days of the old Bedlam where the inmates were put on display to paying
tourists who would laugh at them and poke them with sticks.
The people "moderating" the Nizkor playgroups have developed two
specific practices which in my view cross the boundary from partisanship,
however eccentric, into the irrational. One is their paranoid obsession
with two individuals, a man named Huber and libertarian revisionist Matt
Giwer. Any genuine Revisionist or racial nationalist who posts to any of
the playgroups is immediately accused of being Mr. Huber or Mr. Giwer
operating under a false e-mail heading. The second practice is
concocting completely fictitious posts from Giwer, Kevin Strom, and
others, which then generate a string of hundreds of abusive, defamatory
and threatening gibberish messages from the Nizkor crew. People, there
is no other word to describe this situation other than insane, insane
in the strict clinical, psychiatric sense.
I wish I could say that the madness is confined to Nizkor, but
it isn't. Come on, guys, let's be honest---some of the people on "our
side" are just as nutty as the Nizkooks, although to be accurate I think
our incidence of fruitcakes is lower percentage-wise than theirs,
probably because they have so many Jews, who are born half mad anyway.
I mean, what is one supposed to think when the "Regional Director" of a
group which claims to be the "foremost Aryan racial organization in the
world" spends his time sneaking around in the wee hours vandalizing
mailboxes and making obscene telephone calls to people who dare to incur
his displeasure by public discussion of his behavior? Contemptible and
cowardly, yes---but there is also more than a little element of mental
illness in such activities, especially in a man of 46 or 47.
Why? Why is America quite literally going mad?
First off, a lot of it is probably due to the incredible
complexity and the pressure and contradictions of life in a society
which is based on not one but several fundamental untruths---the
equality of the races, liberal democracy, the "melting pot" which long
ago ceased to melt and is now simply boiling over, an economy built on
paper instead of production, etc., etc. Human beings simply were not
meant to live like this. Human beings were meant to live in fairly small,
racially homogenous communities centered around a common culture and
heritage, and based on a division of labor shared by every member of
that community without exception, involving production for the common
good with no room for parasitism of any kind. True, we have very seldom
approached the ideal at any time in history, but we've never wandered
quite SO far off base in every area, cultural and economic and political
and spiritual, as we've done in the past century.
Secondly, modern-day Western society is essentially a Jewish
society, due to the effective cultural, economic and political hegemony
which the Jews have achieved since the beginning of this century and
which is only recently beginning to collapse on itself due to its
complete lack of any genuine substance. Our cultural values today are
essentially Judaic values---total materialism; man as an economic unit
of production and consumption; human labor as a commodity to be bought
and sold; human beings as "resources"; total sexual depravity and
resentful hatred of any sexual discipline or taboos at all; the complete
denial of the crucial human reality of race; socialism in all its various
forms, etc., etc. Aryan people are not meant to live under Judaic values,
as Carl Jung pointed out to his former mentor, Freud, writing in his
final letter that just because Jews may live their lives obsessed with
incest and sex doesn't mean Aryans do---in short, acknowledging that
the two races have different racial personalities. Trying to pound
Aryans into a Judaic mold is trying to hammer a square peg into a round
hole. No wonder White Americans are finally starting to go a bit batty,
on top of all their other problems.
There is also the complete sense of utter powerlessness which
most people feel today---and correctly. We are ruled by a corrupt
oligarchy of morally denatured men in business suits, many of them Jews,
but I regret to say most of them White Gentiles of impeccably bred
European and New England stock. We all know this, we just have different
ways of saying it. We are unable to access these men and persuade or
compel them to act in our interests instead of their own, therefore like
rats in a pen which has become too overcrowded we turn on one another,
biting and clawing and devouring.
National Socialism is the ONLY world view which completely
addresses ALL our people's problems, from economics to race to spiritual
malaise. It's strong medicine, to be sure, but mankind will either take
that medicine or die. (For how long would the mud races last in any
sense of civilized human state if White men WERE driven into extinction?
Within a matter of generations they would be back to making crude tools
out of bone and stone and waiting for the mysterious monolith to appear
which would give them the jolt of racial soul so they might evolve back
into Aryans in a few million years.)
Strong medicine, but you know you need it. And Dr. Hitler is in.
-Winston Smith
"This destiny does not tire, nor can it be broken, and its mantle
of strength descends upon those in its service." - Francis Parker Yockey,
IMPERIUM
for further info contact http://www.nswpp.org
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NSWPP
The National Alliance--a group of people passionate devoted to the
John Morris
In <jamie-11069...@clmx21.dial.voyager.net>, ja...@voyager.net
(Jamie McCarthy) wrote:
>John....@UAlberta.CA (John Morris) wrote:
>
>> Boy, I'll bet Mark Weber is tickled pink by your support.
>
>Why shouldn't he be? Weber used to work for the National Alliance.
According to the courtesy post from "Roger Hughes," Weber was also a
former member.
Weber has also been trying to distance Holocaust revisionism from
antisemitism. All his efforts seem now to have gone aglimmer.
--
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Scripture veteris capiunt exempla futuri>
--
NSWPP
Will Williams wrote:
[maundering drivel snipped]
"Illegitmi non Carborundem"
Andrew Apollo
In article <339ED4...@earthlink.net>, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Will Williams wrote:
> [Drivel snipped]
>
Now that is a load of rubbish!!!!
The NATIONAL ALLIANCE has done some of the most thought provoking,
intellectual and most of all effective work for the white-racialist movement.
Here I site as examples:
1) "Hunter" - book by NA
2) "Turner Diaries" - book by NA
3) "American Dissident Voices" - radio & internet-radio program by NA
These are only 3 out of numerous publications etc. that Dr. Pierce along with
the NATIONAL ALLIANCE puts out.
The NSWPP (neo-socialist washington provocateur party :please excuse sarcasm)
is clearly engaged in a mission to confuse the general public about the
intentions of various organizations IE: NATIONAL ALLIANCE (and perhaps
themselves); and to steer people towards his lot who have (to my knowledge and
observation over the net) appeared on the scene only recently and have never
amounted to much at all in the line of effectivness.
Through observation over the internet, I have come to the personal conclusion
that the "NSWPP" simply regurgitates the propaganda material put out by other
real racialist organizations (remember that words are an easy thing to say)
and defiles the good name of Commander George L. Rockwell by using him as a
banner of disguise.
Just go to this address for an example of covington's lies:
http://www.nswpp.org/ns06001.html
This is a page in which harold covington claims that Tom Metzger (W.A.R. -
White Aryan Resistance) is a "national bolshevik".
I will also attach to this post some of harold's other smear-mail.
harold covington and his whole group have been troubling me for quite some
time. I've looked at all the "nswpp" sites and I get all his
REGULAR-REPETITIVE-REDUNDANT email bulletins. I have put a lot of thought into
my conclusion regarding covington and his "nswpp".
My dilemma has been that I do see a lot of valid, consistent, concurrent (with
respect to other racialist org's) material coming from the "nswpp" however I
have also come across some significant material that is outrageously
inconsistent. For example, I've read nswpp email in which covington calls for
all National Socialists to admit that they are truly leftists because we are a
movement of change. Sorry harold, this is NOT a movement of change; this is a
movement of restoration.
I have now also seen that harold's nswpp has published Dr. Pierce's "Turner
Diaries" on the web without giving any credit to Pierce or the NATIONAL
ALLIANCE. To the uninformed, this might lead one to think that the book was
done by them.
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/3410/
*or*
http://members.aol.com/eturner88/Turner_Diaries/
This is not a money thing in my opinion, however I do feel that they should
visibly acknowledge the author of the work.
The other thing that caught my eye was when covington tried to say that the
NATIONAL ALLIANCE was possibly linked to nizkor!!!
What kind of crap is that?!
That is like saying that durring WW2, the NSDAP was linked to zionists!!!
My whole point is that people should examine harold's nswpp for themselves.
Don't pay as much attention to what they say, but rather try to look at the
whole situation from an overview IE: input/output.
For example: Look at the NATIONAL ALLIANCE, WAR etc. and what they have done
vs. the outcome. Look at the fruits of their labor.
Now look at harold covington's (winston smith's) achievements. Look at all
they have done for the movement, look at the fruits of their labor.
All their concurrent-consistent propaganda has been said before (said nothing
new).
All their work as far as the media IE: internet has been done before (done
nothing new).
All covington's nswpp has done is try to confuse nettizens into thinking that
the good guys (NATIONAL ALLIANCE, WAR etc.) are either bad or inferior.
Just look at the file containing harold's (winston's) lies, and then at Kevin
A. Strom's truth.
14-88!!!
http://www.stormfront.org
http://www.natvan.com
http://www.natall.com
http://www.resistance.com
http://www.ftcnet.com/~freedom
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Richard Schultz
Fafner13 (fafn...@aol.com) wrote:
: One might look
: in vain for passages such as these in English or French translations of
: the Talmud, for the reason that no complete translation existed in these
: languages. This fact is of great significance.
(1) What does this have to do with the Holocaust?
(2) Whoever wrote your essay seems to be unaware that the Soncino
translation (which was made in the 1930's), for all of its faults, includes
all of the material, including censored passages that appear in the
Munich MS (the oldest complete MS of the Talmud). There are currently
at least three other translations into English underway (One of the
Steinsaltz edition; one under the editorship of Jacob Neusner; and one
from ArtScroll) as well.
(3) The reason that there was no English translation of the Talmud until
this century has a much more reasonable explanation -- until this century,
there was no particular need for one, as anyone who needed to study the
Talmud was presumed to have sufficient facility with Hebrew and Aramaic
not to need a translation. And even though the Soncino translation is
a complete translation of the text, and most of its footnotes are taken
(usually without credit) from the commentary of Rashi, most of the
commentaries remain untranslated. Studying the Talmud in the absence
of its commentaries is frequently difficult to impossible, as anyone who
has tried to learn the Talmud from the Soncino edition has discovered.
[posted/emailed]
-----
Richard Schultz sch...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry tel: 972-3-531-8065
Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel fax: 972-3-535-1250
-----
"You don't even have a clue as to which clue you're missing." -- Miss Manners
Will Williams
NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Will Williams wrote:
> [demented tirade snipped]
> Jesus, Will. You really don't have a clue, do you?
I do not need any more clues, Mr. Bluster, the puzzle is solved.
["demented tirade" reinserted:]
On Thu, 05 Jun 1997 03:15:35 -0700, long-time National Alliance member
and producer of the radio show (for 5 years) "American Dissident
Voices," Kevin Alfred Strom, posted the following about Defendant
Covington's veracity on the below listed newsgroups:
I have never known Mr. Strom to lie or even to exaggerate. This
includes while working closely on nearly a daily basis with KAS for
two years. Harold Covington is an unabashed liar and infamous
disrupter. Anyone who collaborates with Covington (including George
Dietz of "Liberty Bell," Ed Fields of "The Truth At Last," and Willis
Carto of "Spotlight" infamy -- all who know the truth (at last?) about
Covington and his phoney "NSWPP.") in malicious smears of White
patriots should be treated accordingly.
\|/
| Will W. Williams
---begin KAS expose of Defendant Covington:---
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From: Kevin Alfred Strom <ka_s...@ix.netcom.com>
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Subject: Misinformation from "NSWPP"
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Covington's response to Quinton is so full of misinformation relating
to me that it really demands an answer. I prefer to ignore insects,
but at times they must be repelled.
NSWPP wrote:
....
> To plagiarize is to take without ACKNOWLEDGEMENT from another source. ...
The second definition of plagiarism from _Funk and Wagnalls New
Standard Dictionary of the English Language_ is as follows:
"A writing, utterance or invention stolen from another."
This, of course, is the sense in which both Quinton and I used the
term.
Harold Covington has in the past, and likely will continue in the
future, to republish the work of others under his imprimatur --
without the original author's or publisher's permission. He certainly
did it to me and Jack Killey. By doing this, he suggests a
cooperation, cordiality, or agreement between his
solipsistically-named "NSWPP" and the real owners of the works. Such a
suggestion may impress the naive recipients on his sucker-list, but
the simplest of inquiries to the authors will reveal the real nature
of Covington's footwork.
>
> A similar accusation of plagiarism was leveled against me some time ago
> by Kevin Alfred Strom of the National Alliance over an article entitled
> "Jewish Media Censorship".
Not even close, Harold. The article was entitled "Media Control, Close
Up."
> That article was sent to me in September of
> 1996 by e-mail by Mr. Strom himself, during a period when we were having
> a brief civil exchange of the kind which is so rare when dealing with the
> NA.
First, I never knowingly sent the article to Harold Covington.
"ns...@earthlink.net" has never been on my mailing list. It is
certainly possible that Covington himself subscribes to my mailings
under an alias; or more likely one of his followers or employers
forwarded it to him.
I placed "Media Control, Close Up" on the 'Net on 1st September 1996.
The "brief civil exchange" Covington refers to began when Covington
sent me an insulting e-mail he titled "Too Hot For You?" This took
place on 19th July 1996. His last e-mail of this allegedly "civil
exchange" arrived on 21st July, 1996 -- well over a month before the
issuance of the Killey article.
> Six months later Mr. Strom published an open letter accusing me of
> plagiarizing the article. In point of fact, the article was published
> under the author's name and Mr. Strom was given attribution as the
> source, both in the e-mail and the hard copy version. Mr. Strom either
> didn't bother to check his facts or simply had no regard for the truth,
> again a common occurrence when dealing with the National Alliance.
>
> Winston Smith
> www.nswpp.org
Seven days later -- not six months -- I issued the following on the
'Net to alert everyone that Covington had appropriated the article
without permission, and that I was in no way responsible for his use
of it:
***begin quoted message of 9/8/96***
Subject:
I am not associated with "the NSWPP"
Date:
Sun, 08 Sep 1996 02:13:55 -0700
From:
Kevin Alfred Strom <ka_s...@ix.netcom.com>
To:
ka_s...@ix.netcom.com
Dear Friend:
All of you should have received a copy of the ADV article by Jack
Killey entitled _Media Control, Close Up_ which I posted to Usenet and
also to this ADV mailing list several days ago.
Yesterday, some of you received an additional copy of this same
article, with my address and urls removed, from an individual calling
himself "NSWPP-CSU <ns...@earthlink.net>." The opening lines of the
copied version of the article read as follows:
---begin quoted message excerpt from "NSWPP-CSU
<ns...@earthlink.net>"---
MEDIA CONTROL CLOSE UP
by Jack Killey
(This article provided to the NSWPP courtesy of Kevin Alfred
Strom)
To the question, "Do you really believe the Jews own the media?", I
can....
---end quoted message excerpt from "NSWPP-CSU
<ns...@earthlink.net>"---
This article was copied from my original post by "NSWPP-CSU
<ns...@earthlink.net>" and re-sent without my knowledge or permission;
and I am concerned that some of you may be confused by his statement
that "This article provided to the NSWPP courtesy of Kevin Alfred
Strom."
Just to clarify the situation: I have absolutely no connection with
and emphatically make no endorsement of "the NSWPP" or "NSWPP-CSU
<ns...@earthlink.net>." The use of my name in his unsolicited
re-publication of this article was done without my knowledge or
approval.
Further, I do not wish my name to be used in any publications by
anyone including "NSWPP-CSU <ns...@earthlink.net>" without my prior
approval. Such approval was not sought or obtained by "NSWPP-CSU
<ns...@earthlink.net>."
With good wishes to all, and with apologies for troubling you with
this matter, I remain
Yours faithfully,
--
Kevin Alfred Strom
***end quoted message of 9/8/96***
When the plagiarized article was again issued by Covington in printed
form, and was eventually innocently reprinted by the excellent
_Liberty Bell_ magazine, I wrote the following letter.
***begin quoted letter to Liberty Bell magazine***
Mr. George Dietz
Liberty Bell Publications
Post Office Box 21
Reedy, West Virginia 25270
22d December, 1996
Dear Mr. Dietz:
This may be considered a Letter to the Editor.
Just a couple notes on some recent numbers of Liberty Bell.
Thank you for carrying, in your August 1996 issue, Jeremy Miller's
series The New Slavery which originally appeared on American Dissident
Voices (a radio program I produce); but you repeated the innocent
error of the editor of Free Speech in giving me the primary credit. In
fact, my function was merely to edit the Miller articles for clarity
and to fit the time constraints of my radio program. The main credit
should go -- and the byline should have been given -- to Mr. Jeremy
Miller.
In your December 1996 issue, you published an article by Jack Killey
entitled "Jewish Media Control Close Up," which indicated at its
termination, "Thanks to Kevin Alfred Strom for providing the above
article...." and that it was "Reprinted from Resistance #88,
published by NSWPP, PO Box 9444, 27515."
Although I am delighted that Mr. Killey's article was seen by readers
of Liberty Bell, I feel obligated to inform your readers of the false
impression that the publisher of the "Resistance" sheet, Harold
Covington, may have given them. (Do not confuse Harold Covington's
"Resistance" operation in North Carolina with the excellent pro-White
music magazine of the same name published in Detroit, Michigan. It is
Covington's North Carolina-based "Resistance" sheet to which I refer
at all times in this letter.)
First, "Resistance" plagiarized the article from National Vanguard
Books, pure and simple. Mr. Killey, the author of the piece, contacted
me some months ago, looking for a publisher. Believing his was a story
that needed to be told, I first published his article on my radio
program, and later in print and on the Internet. The publisher of
"Resistance" did not contact Mr. Killey, did not contact me, and did
not contact National Vanguard Books before lifting the article whole
and republishing it under his imprimatur. This is dishonorable enough,
but there is more.
Secondly, the publisher of "Resistance" has the audacity to state that
I submitted the article to him and gave him permission to republish
it. I did no such thing. He further implies that I gave him permission
to use my name, which I did not. By using my name as quoted above, Mr.
Covington leaves the reader to infer that I am in at least some small
way associated with or cooperating with his so-called "NSWPP." I most
emphatically state that I have no association whatever with Mr.
Covington or his various operations, nor have I ever had any such
association, nor do I ever intend to have such an association.
Finally, as if to thumb his nose at those whose work he has
appropriated for his own benefit, Mr. Covington altered the text of
the article in at least one very significant way:
On page 52 of the December 1996 issue of Liberty Bell, the text from
Covington's version of the article reads, "It was in one sense a
privilege to be in courageous company living and dead; to be allocated
the ire bestowed on men like Belloc, Chesterton, Douglas Reed,
Wilmot Robertson was a badge of honor of sorts."
The same passage in Jack Killey's actual words reads, "...the ire
bestowed on people like Belloc, Chesterton, Dr. Pierce, Douglas Reed,
Wilmot Robertson was a badge of honor of sorts."
Thank you, George, for all your unselfish work and your multiple
kindnesses to me and my family, and thank you for the opportunity to
set the record straight on this matter. Let me make it clear that you
and the Liberty Bell are absolutely blameless in all this. If readers
want further information, they may contact me through the address
below.
With best wishes to you and yours, I remain
Yours faithfully,
Kevin Alfred Strom.
***end quoted letter to Liberty Bell magazine***
Jusge for yourself who doesn't bother to check his facts -- and just
who it is who has no regard for the truth.
With good wishes to all,
--
Kevin Alfred Strom.
mailto:ka_s...@ix.netcom.com
Resources on the Internet (Not all are affiliated with me; I speak
only for myself.):
Patriotic Education --
http://www.natall.com http://www.natvan.com
Exalted European Art --
http://www.telecall.co.uk/~synergy/gframing/cat1.html
An Incomplete Archive of My Usenet Posts, courtesy of the opposition
http://search.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/s/strom.kevin.alfred/1996
Free Speech in Canada --
http://alpha.ftcnet.com/~freedom/
Politically Incorrect --
http://www.idir.net/~fenix/
Amateur Radio Operations on 3950 kHz --
http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm
Library of Yggdrasil --
http://www.88net.net/ygg/
Institute for Historical Review --
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
Nationalist Resource Page --
http://www.stormfront.org/
The Zundelsite --
http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/
The Incomparable Revilo Oliver --
http://www.natvan.com/FREESP/FREE9511C.HTML
Omri Schwarz
NSWPP wrote:
>
> [From 16 November 1996]
> accelerated this phenomenon in quantum leaps. I refer to the fact that
> a growing segment of our population is looney tunes.
1. This comes from a person who has levelled accusations of net.abuse
at several people and has yet to produce any evidence. This is a person
who has started a thread titled "Is it really paranoia?"
2. To his credit, Harold is one of the saner white power rangers, as
evidenced by his "forget the whole thing" post.
Says something, does it not?
> Tonight I received a message from a prominent Nizkorite which
> was, quite simply, insane. I am not saying that because I dislike this
Well, show us! Let's see if he really is insane.
> man, although I do. I am not saying it to belittle him or insult him.
Of course not.
I
>
> The people "moderating" the Nizkor playgroups have developed two
> specific practices which in my view cross the boundary from partisanship,
> however eccentric, into the irrational. One is their paranoid obsession
> with two individuals, a man named Huber and libertarian revisionist Matt
> Giwer. Any genuine Revisionist or racial nationalist who posts to any
Hey! Don't you be besmirching libertarians like that!
That's up there with saying "national socialist Harold Covington."
>
> I wish I could say that the madness is confined to Nizkor, but
> it isn't. Come on, guys, let's be honest---some of the people on "our
> side" are just as nutty as the Nizkooks, although to be accurate I think
> our incidence of fruitcakes is lower percentage-wise than theirs,
> probably because they have so many Jews, who are born half mad anyway.
ROTFLMAO. Harold diagnosing insanity. Blind leading the blind.
> Why? Why is America quite literally going mad?
Jesish media is your stock answer.
> as Carl Jung pointed out to his former mentor, Freud, writing in his
> final letter that just because Jews may live their lives obsessed with
> incest and sex doesn't mean Aryans do---in short, acknowledging that
Onsessed with incest? That sounds much more Appalachian than Jewish.
--
When I pronounce the word Future,/the first syllable already belongs to
the
past./When I pronounce the word Silence,/I destroy it./When I pronounce
the
word Nothing,/I make something no nonbeing can hold./ (Wislawa
Szymborska)
Omri Schwarz (.sig snarfed from Gregory Taylor)
Michael
On 13 Jun 1997 04:29:45 GMT, sch...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il (Richard
Schultz) wrote:
>Fafner13 (fafn...@aol.com) wrote:
>
>: One might look
>: in vain for passages such as these in English or French translations of
>: the Talmud, for the reason that no complete translation existed in these
>: languages. This fact is of great significance.
First. I think you are full of crap, Schultzie.
>(1) What does this have to do with the Holocaust?
Not a thing to do with the Holocaust(tm). What of it?
>(2) Whoever wrote your essay seems to be unaware that the Soncino
>translation (which was made in the 1930's), for all of its faults, includes
>all of the material, including censored passages that appear in the
>Munich MS (the oldest complete MS of the Talmud). There are currently
>at least three other translations into English underway (One of the
>Steinsaltz edition; one under the editorship of Jacob Neusner; and one
>from ArtScroll) as well.
Faults?? Censored??
>(3) The reason that there was no English translation of the Talmud until
>this century has a much more reasonable explanation -- until this century,
>there was no particular need for one, as anyone who needed to study the
>Talmud was presumed to have sufficient facility with Hebrew and Aramaic
>not to need a translation. And even though the Soncino translation is
>a complete translation of the text, and most of its footnotes are taken
>(usually without credit) from the commentary of Rashi, most of the
>commentaries remain untranslated. Studying the Talmud in the absence
>of its commentaries is frequently difficult to impossible, as anyone who
>has tried to learn the Talmud from the Soncino edition has discovered.
Not enough jews in England, Canada and America prior to 1900?
>[posted/emailed]
>
>-----
>Richard Schultz sch...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il
>Department of Chemistry tel: 972-3-531-8065
>Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel fax: 972-3-535-1250
>-----
>"You don't even have a clue as to which clue you're missing." -- Miss Manners
I am not Fafner 13 so don't bug him about this post.
You don't have a clue, it's true.
natio...@juno.com
Michael
"http://www.natall.com"
National Vanguard Books
P.O. Box 330
Hillsboro, WV 24946
"No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
in some degree that his life belongs to his race."
----Phillips Brooks
NSWPP
Omri Schwarz wrote:
Nothing here that requires any answer, but I would like to take
the opportunity to remark that the reason I don't post headers on my mail
bombs and forgeries is because every time they occur I go through
Earthlink Abuse as the proper channel and I keep hoping against hope that
some action will be taken by the people who are SUPPOSED to be policing
the Net. Thus far I'm afraid I haven't had much luck, although I don't
blame Earthlink for that---I suspect the interdiction of effective action
comes in at a higher level. I play the game like a good citizen and I get
screeched at by assorted jackals on Usenet for my trouble. America the
beautiful....
Winston Smith
www.nswpp.org
R. Samuels
> Will W. Williams, Plaintiff
Nothing like wasting valuable time and resources on nuisance lawsuits.
Why don't you perform some valuable function like that Winston Smith
fella and post articles and actually do constructive things. The way I
see it is that just about all of you, including Winston Smith, are
federal agents and its time for a house cleaning. You boys aren't the
ones to make the changes necessary. You are professional shit disturbers
and peons thats it. Its time for something new. What, you ask? I haven't
the foggiest! Only time will tell and knowing that you guys are better
fighting each other than the real enemy, I have to conclude you're a
joke. No hard feelings but look at all the shit on this newsgroup about
your petty infighting. You're making a mockery of the movement.
R. Samuels
Roger Hughes
In message <33A26B...@hotmail.com> - "R. Samuels"
<rsam...@hotmail.com> writes:
:>
:>> Will W. Williams, Plaintiff
Ok, what do you recommend? Just sit back and let Covington continue to
spread lie upon lie upon lie? Look, we tried ignoring him, but he just
invents even more ridiculous lies. Take for example his recent posting
that long-time NA member and American Dissident Voices producer, Kevin
Strom, had quit the Alliance. Covington even concocted some resignation
letter supposedly written by Strom in which he made all sorts of false
criticisms about the Alliance. Now, I know for a fact that this letter
is a fake and that Kevin has not resigned at all. I happen to know Kevin
personally and called him to find out what was going on. He told me that
Covington is nothing but a bald-faced liar, and that there's not a shred
of truth to either the letter or the whole story of his resignation.
That's not all. A few months ago Covington was putting out yet another
ridiculous story that National Alliance member, Will Williams, was "John
Doe #2" who was claimed to have assisted Tim McVeigh in the OKC bombing.
The story is another lie without a shread of evidence.
Before that he started-up another story about COTC founder, Ben Klassen,
being a homosexual. Before that he started another story that Tom
Metzger was sending all his mail to Morris Dees. I mean the stories from
this idiot and liar, Covington, just never stop! All this seems to be
the only way he can maintain his sucker list.
Now can you understand?
( )( )
\ || /
ARCHIVE THIS NIZKOR!
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On Sat, 14 Jun 1997 16:17:44 -0700, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
<snip>
>Winston Smith
>www.nswpp.or
"Winston Smith loves Big Brother."
-From "1984" by George Orwell
How do you pay your bills? Where do you get your money from?
Best Regards,
Vincent
"Our task in not to persuade a numerical majority of the American
population that we are right, but rather to build the numerical
minority whose values coincide with ours into a majority of will and
determination."
-Dr. William L. Pierce, First General Convention of the National
Alliance, Sept. 2, 1978.
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To Subscribe to American Dissident Voices weekly transcripts
(the printed version of our weekly radio program),
mail: vin...@dreamon.com.
Will Williams
(Roger Hughes) wrote:
>"R. Samuels" writes:
>:>
>:>> Will W. Williams, Plaintiff
>:>
>:>Nothing like wasting valuable time and resources on nuisance lawsuits.
>:>Why don't you perform some valuable function like that Winston Smith
>:>fella and post articles and actually do constructive things. The way I
>:>see it is that just about all of you, including Winston Smith, are
>:>federal agents and its time for a house cleaning.
I presume that you are a house cleaner by trade, eh Samuels?
>:> You boys aren't the
>:>ones to make the changes necessary.
Teach us, O' Wise One w/o the foggiest idea!
>:> You are professional shit disturbers
>:>and peons thats it. Its time for something new. What, you ask? I haven't
>:>the foggiest! Only time will tell and knowing that you guys are better
>:>fighting each other than the real enemy, I have to conclude you're a
>:>joke. No hard feelings but look at all the shit on this newsgroup about
>:>your petty infighting. You're making a mockery of the movement.
Get used to it. It is called a search for truth. It's messy, but it
works.
>:>R. Samuels
Mr./Miss Samuels, you have not been paying attention. Sit on you hands
for a while, keep your mouth shut, your eyes and ears open.
>Ok, what do you recommend? Just sit back and let Covington continue to
>spread lie upon lie upon lie? Look, we tried ignoring him, but he just
>invents even more ridiculous lies. Take for example his recent posting
>that long-time NA member and American Dissident Voices producer, Kevin
>Strom, had quit the Alliance. Covington even concocted some resignation
>letter supposedly written by Strom in which he made all sorts of false
>criticisms about the Alliance. Now, I know for a fact that this letter
>is a fake and that Kevin has not resigned at all. I happen to know Kevin
>personally and called him to find out what was going on. He told me that
>Covington is nothing but a bald-faced liar, and that there's not a shred
>of truth to either the letter or the whole story of his resignation.
Well put, Mr. Hughes. Samuels seems to care not if his/her "leaders"
are common liars. That he/she is still unable to spot Covington as a
liar -- or, more importantly, that he/she doesn't care -- will
severely limit any role he/she plays in our Resistance Movement. Maybe
he/she will develop his/her powers of discrimination. I hope so.
>That's not all. A few months ago Covington was putting out yet another
>ridiculous story that National Alliance member, Will Williams, was "John
>Doe #2" who was claimed to have assisted Tim McVeigh in the OKC bombing.
>The story is another lie without a shread of evidence.
Actually, that is one of his milder per se accusations. I'm not sure
where Samuels lives, but here in NC, our state Constitution allows
that it is an actionable offense to deliberately and maliciously
publish lies about someone here with no regard for truth and accuracy.
Covington made a big mistake moving to my back yard and to this
jurisdiction slinging his crap.
>Before that he started-up another story about COTC founder, Ben Klassen,
>being a homosexual. Before that he started another story that Tom
>Metzger was sending all his mail to Morris Dees. I mean the stories from
>this idiot and liar, Covington, just never stop! All this seems to be
>the only way he can maintain his sucker list.
>Now can you understand?
Samuels will ask: "But how 'bout the "valuable function" Covington
serves by posting innocuous non-smear type articles?" Anybody who
doesn't see that as a stupid question does not pass GO. Sorry!
NSWPP
Roger Hughes wrote:
[drivel snipped]
"Illegitimi non Carborundem"
NSWPP
The BOK wrote:
> How do you pay your bills? Where do you get your money from?
>
> Best Regards,
> Vincent
>
I have already answered this on several previous occasions.
By the by, Vincent, I am informed that you have been telling
people that "Winston Smith stole the National Alliance mailing list". I
would be fascinated to hear how I accomplished the incredible feat of
slipping into Dr. Pierce's office in September 1993 and making away with
the list. Please, enlighten me.
Winston Smith
www.nswpp.org
The BOK
You are truly the most cartoon secret agent I have ever come across.
No, I have never told anyone that you "Winston Smith stole the
National Alliance mailing list". If this is your attempt at persuading
NA members that we should hook up with a Jewish double agent like
yourself, the strategy is failing.
And please tell me who is informing you? Yourself?
And no, you have not answered the question of where your money comes
from. Will told me that you where served legal papers by him in the
afternoon during the week. Tell us all how your labor job gives you
such great hours. There is not a single person who believes this crap
other than the people you create yourself.
Vincent
"Winston Smith loves Big Brother."
-From "1984" by George Orwell
The BOK
Fat, Jewish Nazi, now that's irony.
How do you pay your bills? Where do you get your money from?
Best Regards,
Vincent
"Winston Smith loves Big Brother."
NSWPP
The BOK wrote:
[Gibberish snipped]
Looks like your guru had better start worrying about who's going
to be paying HIS legal bills.
WS
NSWPP
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
>
> In article <33A5A6...@earthlink.net>, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <33A0C8...@earthlink.net>, Poor Ol' Lyin' Harold Covington
> > > <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > An Aryan leader's personal and political life should be a
> > > > complete open book, and mine is just that...
> > >
> > > Uh huh. That's why Poor Ol' Lyin' Harold doesn't sign his own name to his
> > > posts. This must be some new use of the phrase "complete open book" that we
> > > were previously unacquainted with.
> > >
> > > JGB
> >
> > (sigh) I sign all my posts, Jeffrey.
> >
> > I really wonder sometimes whether all of this cack is simply
> > deliberate lying or whether the Jews and the National Alliance simply no
> > longer recognize or understand what truth is.
>
> Poor Ol' Lyin' Harold signs all his posts with the name of a fictional
> character. This must be some new use of the word "truth" that we were
> previously unacquainted with.
>
> JGB
(Sigh...) Once again, that is a subject I addressed long ago,
i.e. why I use the name "Winston Smith". I use it largely because it
seems to bother people like poor old Jeffrey so badly...
And people wonder why sometimes I replay flippantly to posts with
"Illegitimi non Carborundem"? Largely it happens when I answer a question
and the babooon chorus continues to ook and eek and turn flips. Answers
and truth are pretty much irrelevant on Usenet; it has become simply a
forum for certain weird individuals like Jeffrey here and Will Williams
to wrestle with their obsessive personal demons in public, under the
thoroughly mistaken impression that other people CARE what they think or
what they have to say.
Winston Smith
www.nswpp.org
Brian Smith
NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Face it, Winston Smith, aka Harold Covington, aka Myron Silverstein.
You'll never be anything except an old, broken down, embittered, fat,
whining failure. Hell, you look like a Jew. You bash the NA because
of your own personal deficiencies. You're a disgrace to the very name
which your non-existent "organization" has laughably adopted. You got
that, Harold? Now go create some more "letters to yourself" for your
little NSWPP bulletin.
Archive THIS, Nizkook!
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Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
[nothing of any particular relevance or interest]
Jeffrey G. Brown
> Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
>
> [nothing of any particular relevance or interest]
That, folks, is Poor Ol' Lyin' Harold's usual tactic when even his lies
fail him.
JGB
=====================================================================
Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
"What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'
Quinton
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
[respectfully shortened]
>
> Poor Ol' Lyin' Harold would _like_ answers and truth to be pretty much
> irrelevant on Usenet, I'm sure. The problem is that the "babooon chorus"
> Poor Ol' Lyin' Harold tries so hard to dismiss keeps reminding him that he
> doesn't have any answers, and he doesn't speak truth.
>
> JGB
NSWPP wrote:
> [nothing of any particular relevance or interest]
Oh no, not at all .... only that yet another person not affiliated with
the NA has come to find that you are the liar we say you are. It's to
obvious at this point! The only posts you respond to are the ones you
think you'll have the opportunity to inject your hatred for the most
successful White racialist organization today - the NA.
I've asked you many direct questions that you have yet to respond to. I
challenge you to answer my questions and prove that you are not a liar.
Care to accept my challenge?
Quinton
Quinton wrote:
>> Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
[respectfully shortened]
>>
>> Poor Ol' Lyin' Harold would _like_ answers and truth to be pretty much
>> irrelevant on Usenet, I'm sure. The problem is that the "babooon chorus"
>> Poor Ol' Lyin' Harold tries so hard to dismiss keeps reminding him that he
>> doesn't have any answers, and he doesn't speak truth.
>>
>> JGB
> Oh no, not at all .... only that yet another person not affiliated with
> the NA has come to find that you are the liar we say you are. It's to
> obvious at this point! The only posts you respond to are the ones you
> think you'll have the opportunity to inject your hatred for the most
> successful White racialist organization today - the NA.
> I've asked you many direct questions that you have yet to respond to. I
> challenge you to answer my questions and prove that you are not a liar.
> Care to accept my challenge?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I challenged him and here is his response, you tell me who has the
FACTS!
" The National Alliance--a group of people passionately devoted to the
proposition that paying Bill Pierce's mortgage is a revolutionary act. "
- Harold Covington of the "nswpp"
Keith Morrison
Quinton wrote:
>
>
> Oh no, not at all .... only that yet another person not affiliated with
> the NA has come to find that you are the liar we say you are. It's to
> obvious at this point! The only posts you respond to are the ones you
> think you'll have the opportunity to inject your hatred for the most
> successful White racialist organization today - the NA.
If the Neutered Albinos are the best that the White Power Rangers
can manage then I guess us "race-traitors" can reassure ourselves
that we did join the winning side.
--
Keith Morrison
lone...@nbnet.nb.ca
NSWPP
Quinton wrote:
[gibberish snipped]
Sigh....not a clue, folks. Not a single, solitary clue.
Roger Hughes
In message <33AA27...@earthlink.net> - NSWPP
<ns...@earthlink.net>Thu, 19 Jun 1997 23:46:15 -0700 writes:
:>
:>Quinton wrote:
:> [childish raving deleted]
:>
:>The National Alliance--a group of people passionately devoted to the
Aw, bullshit!
Covington, you can't you tell the truth even once.
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In message <33AAFC...@earthlink.net> - NSWPP
<ns...@earthlink.net>Fri, 20 Jun 1997 14:55:22 -0700 writes:
:>
:>Quinton wrote:
:> [gibberish snipped]
:>
:> Sigh....not a clue, folks. Not a single, solitary clue.
Hey Fatboy, that silly line is getting pretty stale.
Andrew Apollo
In article <33AAFC...@earthlink.net>, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Quinton wrote:
> [gibberish snipped]
>
> Sigh....not a clue, folks. Not a single, solitary clue.
Yes harold covington, however more and more racial-nettizens are getting clues
on you.
People are starting to see you for what you are, a non-constructive bad-mouth
who clearly has his own opposite agenda.
I, along with others are watching you.
We have a fairly good idea of what you're up to.
14-88!!
NSWPP
Roger Hughes wrote:
>
> In message <33AAFC...@earthlink.net> - NSWPP
> <ns...@earthlink.net>Fri, 20 Jun 1997 14:55:22 -0700 writes:
> :>
> :> [gibberish snipped]
> :>
> :> Sigh....not a clue, folks. Not a single, solitary clue.
>
NSWPP
Roger Hughes wrote:
[drivel snipped]
Skiddle-dee-doo-bop!
Roger Hughes
In message <5oh62h$d...@cabernet.niagara.com> - spa...@niagara.com
(Andrew Apollo)Sat, 21 Jun 97 18:20:47 GMT writes:
:>
:>In article <33AAFC...@earthlink.net>, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
:>>Quinton wrote:
:>> [gibberish snipped]
:>>
:>> Sigh....not a clue, folks. Not a single, solitary clue.
:>Yes harold covington, however more and more racial-nettizens are getting clues
:>
:>People are starting to see you for what you are, a non-constructive bad-mouth
:>who clearly has his own opposite agenda.
:>
:>I, along with others are watching you.
:>We have a fairly good idea of what you're up to.
Me too. However, I, like I'm sure some others, when first exposed to
Covington's slanderous rhetoric, become a bit curious. I mean, he does
have a certain ability to weave a couple unrelated facts together with
several lies, then mix that together thoroughly with his own
deliberately reckless speculation, and make it all sound somewhat
plausible. At least enough that a naive or uninformed person can't
simply dismiss it all out of hand. Largely this effect is derived from
the fact that much of what Covington says is simply unconfirmable: he
quotes persons nobody has heard of, or who are simply unidentified and
even deceased.
Interestingly, until his latest attempt at slander, I was still a bit
reluctant to really really go after him, since I didn't have ALL the
facts, and unlike Covington, I don't like to go off half-cocked. Well,
Covington made a serious blunder when he apparently concocted and
certainly circulated a faked "resignation letter" proportedly authored
by, Kevin Strom, a well-known National Alliance member and radio host.
This fake letter made an assortment of derogatory and false statements
against certain NA members, which just happened to be essentially
identical to those which Covington had been spewing for some time. Since
I know Mr. Strom personally, the letter seemed to me to be very
out-of-character. So I called Kevin to find out if what I was seeing was
actually true. Fortunately, Kevin informed me categorically that the
letter was an absolute forgery, and that there wasn's a shred of
evidence either to his resigning or to the statements the letter
contained.
And once his fraud was exposed by Kevin posting his personal
denounciation of Covington to several newsgroups, Covington immediately
began trying to cover his tracks.
Well, Harold, you got caught. Apparently you thought you could get away
with an outrageous stunt like that, but you couldn't. And you won't
again.
The movement will be infinitely better off when you are out of the way
and doing the work for which you're talents are more properly suited:
writing sensational articles for the _Weekly World News_. You know, the
supermarket tabloid with has blazing headlines about space aliens,
wonder cures, and the latest sightings of Loch Ness monster.
Start working on your resume' tonight, Covington- you'll be needing it.
However, a word of advice: leave out the part about your bilking
thousands of dollars from the well-meaning, but ignorant boobs, who have
paid you over the years whatever you demanded for your little lie-sheet
that masquerades as a patriotic newsletter.
NSWPP
Roger Hughes wrote:
[stupid bullshit excised]
A faggot went to the doctor because he'd been feeling poorly, and
the doctor told him, "I'm afraid you have AIDS".
"Oh, no!" shrieked the faggot. "What can I do, doctor?"
"Well, you have to do exactly as I tell you. First, I am giving
you a prescription for this drug; it is the strongest laxative known to
medical science. Take two teaspoons full, three times a day. Secondly, I
am giving you a subscription for these special laxative suppositories;
use them once in the morning and once at night. Finally, I want you to
drink a pint of prune juice four times a day."
"Will that cure my AIDS, doctor?" asked the bugger boy.
"Oh, no, the AIDS is going to kill you," replied the doctor, "But
with this treatment I am prescribing, before you die, son, you will
DAMNED sure understand what your asshole is SUPPOSED to be used for!"
NSWPP
Andrew Apollo wrote:
[semi-literate drivel snipped]
Two faggots were walking on the beach and found an oil lamp partly
exposed in the sand. A genie came out and offered them 2 wishes, one
each. The first faggot wished for a large mansion overlooking the ocean.
Poof! Instantly the two found themselves in their new home! While the one
faggot who wished for the house was looking out the window, leaning way
over.. hoping for some suprise anal action, the 2nd one made his wish. A
few minutes later a large group of Klansmen were banging on the door and
burning crosses out front.
"What on earth is that?" Asked the first who had wished for the house.
"Well, you see.. I wished we were hung like niggers!" replied the second.
NSWPP
The BOK wrote:
[gibberish snipped]
Q. Why do niggers stink?
A. So blind people can hate them, too.
NSWPP
The BOK wrote:
[boring, repetitious abuse snipped]
Did you hear about Ku Klux Knievel? He tried to jump over fifty
niggers with a steamroller.
NSWPP
The BOK wrote:
[tirade snipped]
Did you hear about the gay sparrow who flew backwards for a lark?
Will Williams
Jik...@worldnet.att.net wrote on 10 June:
>I heard that the NSWPP and NA are on the verge of war.
>Hundreds of Nazi eyes will be scratched out.
Twas more like a public floggin'. Light work indeed. Most of our
Alliance members weren't even made aware of the dirty but necessary
little job.
NSWPP
Brian Smith wrote:
[gibberish snipped]
Q. What's the difference between a nigger and a bucket of
manure?
A. The bucket.