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String Pattern Matching: regex and Python regex documentation      Group: comp.lang.python
Ilias Lazaridis il...@lazaridis.com comp lang python comp lang perl misc comp
lang lisp comp lang java programmer comp lang functional [followup to clpy] Xah
Lee wrote: the Python regex documentation is available at: http://xahlee.org/perl-
python/python_re-write/lib/module-re.html Note that, i've just made the terms of ...
Sep 23 2006 by Ilias Lazaridis - 2 messages - 2 authors

John Bokma harassment      Group: comp.lang.perl.misc
Ilias Lazaridis il...@lazaridis.com comp lang perl misc comp lang python comp
lang java programmer comp lang lisp comp lang functional Xah Lee wrote:
Thanks to the great many people who has written to my ISP in support of [...] As to
dreamhost my webhosting company canceling my account, i will try to reason
with ...
Jun 5 2006 by Ilias Lazaridis - 183 messages - 88 authors

HOST - dreamhost.com / Liberality (Hosting, Basic Requirement)      Group: comp.lang.perl.misc
Ilias Lazaridis il...@lazaridis.com comp lang perl misc comp lang python comp
lang java programmer comp lang lisp comp lang functional Tim X wrote: [...] I
think the other point here is that everyone *assumes* Xah's account was
cancelled simply because of a campaign to report him for spamming multiple
newsgroups.
Jun 5 2006 by Ilias Lazaridis - 7 messages - 5 authors
HOST - dreamhost.com / Liberality (Hosting, Basic Requirement)      Group: comp.lang.perl.misc
Ilias Lazaridis il...@lazaridis.com comp lang perl misc comp lang python comp
lang java programmer comp lang lisp comp lang functional crossposted to 5
groups, which are affected by this case. followup not applicable. - I am currently
selecting a Hosting Provider / Project Host... http://case.lazaridis.com/multi/wiki/
Host For ...
Jun 4 2006 by Ilias Lazaridis - 7 messages - 5 authors

Software Needs Philosophers      Group: comp.lang.perl.misc
Ilias Lazaridis il...@lazaridis.com comp lang perl misc comp lang python comp
lang java programmer comp lang lisp comp lang functional Mark Shelor wrote:
Xah Lee wrote: Programming languages are religions. For a long while now I've
been ... ... Is there really something new out there? I would argue that software ...
May 21 2006 by Ilias Lazaridis - 183 messages - 88 authors

does my dream, my hope finishes here?      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp follow up: http://groups.google.com/
groups?selm=3D5BC4DE.8080...@pontos.net.
Oct 10 2002 by ilias - 1 message - 1 author

LISP - an excercise for experts?      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp follow up: http://groups.google.com/
groups?selm=87vg5p4g6e.fsf...@valhalla.localnet.
Oct 10 2002 by ilias - 182 messages - 41 authors
LISP - an excercise for experts?      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp follow up: http://groups.google.com/
groups?selm=3d5b5ad8.0209031926.440cd...@posting.google.com.
Oct 10 2002 by ilias - 182 messages - 41 authors
LISP - an excercise for experts? - Eric Naggum section ---      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Erik Naggum wrote: * ilias <at_news@
pontos.net> I don't worry about the fact that he critisizes me an others. There are
two kinds of people. Those who realize that actions are criticized and those who
think that only people can be criticized. follow-up here: ...
Oct 10 2002 by ilias - 182 messages - 41 authors
LISP - an excercise for experts?      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Erik Naggum wrote: * ilias <at_news@
pontos.net> it's not my 'problem'. it's a 'problem' of LISP. This whole attitude is a
problemwith only with you. As long as you believe you can blame something or
someone else, you have a vested interest in /not/ solving the problem because
you ...
Oct 10 2002 by ilias - 182 messages - 41 authors

LISP - The Challenge of Nested Macros - [#V0.6]      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp navigation information to related topics:
initial http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3D72EAA1.1090...@pontos.net
V0.3 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=alq8of$1d...@usenet.otenet.gr V0.
4 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=alrd87$6...@usenet.otenet.gr V0.5 ...
Oct 10 2002 by ilias - 65 messages - 22 authors
LISP - The Challenge of Nested Macros - [#V0.5]      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp navigation information to related topics:
initial http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3D72EAA1.1090...@pontos.net
V0.3 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=alq8of$1d...@usenet.otenet.gr V0.
4 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=alrd87$6...@usenet.otenet.gr V0.5 ...
Oct 10 2002 by ilias - 65 messages - 22 authors
LISP - The Challenge of Nested Macros - [#V0.3]      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp navigation information to related topics:
initial http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3D72EAA1.1090...@pontos.net
V0.3 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=alq8of$1d...@usenet.otenet.gr V0.
4 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=alrd87$6...@usenet.otenet.gr V0.5 ...
Oct 10 2002 by ilias - 65 messages - 22 authors
LISP - The Challenge of Nested Macros      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp navigation information to related topics:
initial http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3D72EAA1.1090...@pontos.net
V0.3 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=alq8of$1d...@usenet.otenet.gr V0.
4 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=alrd87$6...@usenet.otenet.gr V0.5 ...
Oct 10 2002 by ilias - 65 messages - 22 authors

LISP - GarbageCollector [off topic]      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Follow-up topics: Troll Paranoia: http://
groups.google.com/groups?selm=3D764D99.3000...@pontos.net Flying object
: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3D79252A.7000...@pontos.net.
Oct 10 2002 by ilias - 6 messages - 1 author

LISP - The Scary Readtable - () => [] - [#V0.4]      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp This topic continues here: LISP - The
Scary Readtable - () => {} [#V0.5] http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=alot2c$
pk...@usenet.otenet.gr.
Oct 10 2002 by ilias - 18 messages - 6 authors
LISP - The Scary Readtable - () => [] - [#V0.5]      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp This topic continues here: LISP - The
Scary Readtable - () => {} [#V0.6] http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=amsq4a
$cr...@usenet.otenet.gr.
Oct 10 2002 by ilias - 18 messages - 6 authors

LISP - 2 exponent 0 = 1      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp follow-up thread: http://groups.google.
com/groups?selm=xcvwupk1ede.fsf...@conquest.OCF.Berkeley.EDU.
Oct 10 2002 by ilias - 87 messages - 32 authors

LISP - When you've seen it, what else can impress?      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp follow-upthread: http://groups.google.
com/groups?selm=alikuf$ec...@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu.
Oct 10 2002 by ilias - 295 messages - 65 authors

LISP - [SPECS ERR] - Backquote - please confirm. - [#V0.4]      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp navigation information to related topics:
initial http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=amc48r$hc...@usenet.otenet.gr
V0.2 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=amep5j$ji...@usenet.otenet.gr V0.
3 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=amhlmk$45...@usenet.otenet.gr ...
Oct 10 2002 by ilias - 89 messages - 16 authors
LISP - [SPECS ERR] - Backquote - please confirm. - [#V0.3]      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp navigation information to related topics:
initial http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=amc48r$hc...@usenet.otenet.gr
V0.2 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=amep5j$ji...@usenet.otenet.gr V0.
3 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=amhlmk$45...@usenet.otenet.gr ...
Oct 10 2002 by ilias - 89 messages - 16 authors
LISP - [SPECS ERR] - Backquote - please confirm. - [#V0.2]      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp navigation information to related topics:
initial http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=amc48r$hc...@usenet.otenet.gr
V0.2 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=amep5j$ji...@usenet.otenet.gr V0.
3 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=amhlmk$45...@usenet.otenet.gr ...
Oct 10 2002 by ilias - 89 messages - 16 authors
LISP - [SPECS ERR] - Backquote - please confirm.      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp navigation information to related topics:
initial http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=amc48r$hc...@usenet.otenet.gr
V0.2 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=amep5j$ji...@usenet.otenet.gr V0.
3 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=amhlmk$45...@usenet.otenet.gr ...
Oct 10 2002 by ilias - 89 messages - 16 authors

suggesting a new newsgroup - or does this already exist?      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp comp lang smalltalk Andreas Wild
wrote: [.....] and i *will* blame you. and i will *explain* it... with 'apples'. be sure!
nearly *everyone* will understand. what you have done. to the little baby. lisp. - ...
- The Spirit of Lisp - Transparency! *If* I would have searched a posting like that I'
m ...
Oct 8 2002 by ilias - 8 messages - 7 authors
LISP - The Spirit of Lisp - Transparency!      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp comp lang scheme comp lang smalltalk
the people around lisp talk. they talk and talk and talk. the people around lisp
design. they design and design and design. - there is a trap. once you start to
design a lisp interpreter, you'll recognise that you fall into this trap. do, try design,
talk, ...
Oct 8 2002 by ilias - 8 messages - 7 authors

the plight of society      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Xah Lee wrote: Dear lisp comrades,
please allow me a few words on the plight of Erik Naggum. [...] Sanity Xah. - Don't
try. Your mental beauty never he reach. To late it is. - Sorry i am? - A Simple
Coward He Is. - A Cheaply Looser In Bliss.
Oct 8 2002 by ilias - 3 messages - 3 authors

Understanding Erik Naggum      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Kenny Tilton wrote: [...] Not sure how to
URL ng messages, but Netscape offers this: news://news:119/
Xns929F1B1F3C851mspitze1optonline...@167.206.3.3 http://groups.google.
com/groups?selm=Xns929F1B1F3C851mspitze1optonline...@167.206.3.3.
Oct 7 2002 by ilias - 424 messages - 90 authors

Moving from Another Language to LISP?      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp ilias wrote: cr88192 wrote: ilias wrote:
cr88192 wrote: Steve Graham wrote: I have a programmer friend whose division
is considering a rewrite of their application. It currently uses a B-tree database
and involves getting orders from another system, getting results from automated
...
Oct 7 2002 by ilias - 21 messages - 10 authors

Understanding Erik Naggum      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp - people. are you really unable to
understand? - 'friends'. can you really abuse a human this way? - reflection. many
ways to do this. some people don't do. some people do silent, internally. some
people do loud, but alone. some people do loud, with others. - some people do ...
Oct 7 2002 by ilias - 424 messages - 90 authors

Moving from Another Language to LISP?      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp cr88192 wrote: ilias wrote: cr88192
wrote: Steve Graham wrote: I have a programmer friend whose division is
considering a rewrite of their application. It currently uses a B-tree database and
involves getting orders from another system, getting results from automated
instruments, ...
Oct 7 2002 by ilias - 21 messages - 10 authors

UML.tools.limits      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp thread continues here: http://groups.
google.com/groups?selm=3D5A4EA0.3000...@pontos.net -
Oct 6 2002 by ilias - 9 messages - 4 authors

Moving from Another Language to LISP?      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp cr88192 wrote: Steve Graham wrote: I
have a programmer friend whose division is considering a rewrite of their
application. It currently uses a B-tree database and involves getting orders from
another system, getting results from automated instruments, and packaging those
results ...
Oct 6 2002 by ilias - 21 messages - 10 authors

LISP - The Danger of The Source      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Source-code is a fine thing. You look at
the specs, and you don't understand. You look at some source and then you
understand. - What do you understand? What the writer of the source has
understood. Take this knowledge and the party goes on. Higher levels now. This
small ...
Oct 4 2002 by ilias - 1 message - 1 author

who should read comp.lang.lisp? /civility      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Joe Marshall wrote: "ilias" <at_news@
pontos.net> wrote in message news:anikjo$ol$1@usenet.otenet.gr... Joe
Marshall wrote: And your response was variously: ``i think this is not the right way
.'' ``*why* should I try it'' ``i feel it is the *wrong* way'' ``As an experienced lisp
coder you ...
Oct 4 2002 by ilias - 63 messages - 33 authors
who should read comp.lang.lisp? /civility      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Joe Marshall wrote: "ilias" <at_news@
pontos.net> wrote in message news:aniblp$oov$1@usenet.otenet.gr... finally see
this topics as a showcase for what happens, if you attack holy things: The Scary
Readtable ...
Oct 3 2002 by ilias - 63 messages - 33 authors

LISP - The Entry Point      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp which technology to choose? i tend to
use C++ more that i should. eg the readtable becomes very simple, when
implemented in C++. - C++ is flexible. functional style. violating functional style.
goto. - it makes things simple. on the other side, aC implementation is 'nearer' to
...
Oct 3 2002 by ilias - 26 messages - 11 authors

who should read comp.lang.lisp? /civility      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Richard Fateman wrote: [...] The reason
I'm writing here, is that it would also seem appropriate to direct students to read
comp.lang.lisp to see some informed discussion of various issues related to
Common Lisp. However the level of discussion of technical issues seems to ...
Oct 3 2002 by ilias - 63 messages - 33 authors

LISP - The Entry Point      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp ilias wrote: Borland C++ Builder 60-day
-Evaluation is very gentle. it shows since 2 days: 0 days remaining. but it still
continues to work. [...] the Windows ME maschine crashed again. after restarting:
"thank you for evaluating borland" - my motivation is against zero now.
deinstalled ...
Oct 3 2002 by ilias - 26 messages - 11 authors

CLOS is hard. Let's go shopping (Was Re: Lisp in Python)      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Erann Gat wrote: [...] are. Very few
people are capable of doing what you do. (I'm considered a pretty bright person
among my peers, but I don't think I'ma fraction as technically capable as you are.)
The fact that you are so smart makes it all the more annoying that you don't
realize ...
Oct 3 2002 by ilias - 424 messages - 90 authors

LISP - The Entry Point      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Borland C++ Builder 60-day-Evaluation
is very gentle. it shows since 2 days: 0 days remaining. but it still continues to
work. am i illegal now? i don't know. it looks like a marketing thing. i've just
finished the construct "reader macros". and i got very much fun of how such a
simple ...
Oct 2 2002 by ilias - 26 messages - 11 authors
LISP - The Entry Point      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp i got the first 'answer' of my 'lisp'. - lisp
interpreter is easy to implement. the challange is the raising complexity. - Borland
C++ Builder 60-day-Evaluation is very gentle. it shows since 2 days: 0 days
remaining. but it still continues to work. am i illegal now? i don't know. it looks like
a ...
Oct 2 2002 by ilias - 26 messages - 11 authors

CLOS is hard. Let's go shopping (Was Re: Lisp in Python)      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Ray Blaak wrote: Erik Naggum <erik@
naggum.no> writes: So far, the cretins have behaved much worse than I ever
have. I do not go after people. I criticize their /statements/ and /specifics/. They
attack my /person/ and /generalities/. Can you please explain how telling
someone to ...
Oct 1 2002 by ilias - 424 messages - 90 authors

Alcatraz      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Kenny Tilton wrote: dear w, frisco is on,
just registered. glad you can make the opening weekend. you could stay longer,
but there is a great roster of presentations (why I am going) so you would be on
your own. i was going to pass, but when i saw the speaker list it was a frickin lisp
...
Oct 1 2002 by ilias - 30 messages - 23 authors

LISP - 2 exponent 0 = 1      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp ilias wrote: must cleanup my mind. 3
apples collect 3 more apples. i have now 6 apples. this is the concept of addition.
+ this i like. 2 exp 0 = 1 can anyone explain me this with apples? i know now why
this question came up, whilst looking at lisp. it is the case with nil, (), the empty list
, ...
Sep 30 2002 by ilias - 87 messages - 32 authors

A social problem of lisp (Was: Re: The toxicity of trolls)      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Robert Hanlin wrote: Kenny Tilton <
ktil...@nyc.rr.com> wrote: There are two kinds of folks on the Usenet. Those who
engage in protracted hand-to-hand combat with other posters, and those who do
not. [...] I would personally like to see cllisp invaded, to be a place where there
can ...
Sep 30 2002 by ilias - 134 messages - 46 authors

importing to the KEYWORD package      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Kalle Olavi Niemitalo wrote: [...] It
should be possible to work around that by creating the symbol elsewhere and
then importing it to the KEYWORD package: freedom. individuality.
Sep 30 2002 by ilias - 13 messages - 8 authors

Upcoming Lisp Conference      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp The URL for the conference web page
is http://www.international-lisp-conference.org i'd like to come, to read the faces.
but i'm afraid... sorry, i know all of you want me to come. to present "The Scary
Readtable". Back to the roots. With a new title, of course: 'The Arrogance, ...
Sep 29 2002 by ilias - 30 messages - 23 authors

LISP - simple novice request      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Raffael Cavallaro wrote: [...] "If a
function to be traced has been open-coded (eg, because it was declared inline),
a call to that function might not produce trace output." So you might want to
reconsider your broader goal here. i see. basically i'd like to trace the expansion
of `. i could ...
Sep 29 2002 by ilias - 9 messages - 4 authors

Wanted opinions regarding the many lisp blocking constructs      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Software Scavenger wrote: ilias <
at_n...@pontos.net> wrote in message news:<an747d$8o...@usenet.otenet.
gr>... i'm sorry that i can't give you an summary. i've not assimilate 'lambda',
whaterver this is. I'm curious to know if you can translate that word to Greek. I
assume that ...
Sep 29 2002 by ilias - 6 messages - 5 authors

explanation      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Fred Gilham wrote: Ilias wrote: many
many things bounded to knowledge, which i'm not able to decipher. cause i'm
undereducated. I therefore urge, even beg, you to find some topic more worthy of
your attention. rejected. How foolish of me. Clearly I should have known better ---
I ...
Sep 29 2002 by ilias - 47 messages - 21 authors
explanation      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Fred Gilham wrote: [...] many many
things bounded to knowledge, which i'm not able to decipher. cause i'm
undereducated. I therefore urge, even beg, you to find some topic more worthy of
your attention. rejected.
Sep 29 2002 by ilias - 47 messages - 21 authors
explanation      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Fred Gilham wrote: I think nobody who
knows him does that. He has something like a 'diplomatic immunity' in this forum.
You are mistaken. of course, 'Mr. puppet'. Erik does not have diplomatic immunity.
i've said: 'diplomatic immunity' Erik is one of the few people in any forum ...
Sep 29 2002 by ilias - 47 messages - 21 authors

Wanted opinions regarding the many lisp blocking constructs      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Fred Gilham wrote: There are many lisp
blocking constructs. And recommendations on their proper use and some
rationale or examples from gurus or more experienced users? Read LAMBDA:
THE ULTIMATE IMPERATIVE. This will give you some insight into the semantics
of the ...
Sep 29 2002 by ilias - 6 messages - 5 authors

explanation      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Jacek Podkanski wrote: Erik Naggum
wrote: [...] Dear Sir, Perhaps you are an expert with years of experience, but I am
not. I realise I ask daft questions and this one probably isn't last. You might feel
upset that someone asked such obvious question. Tell me haw many years ago
last ...
Sep 29 2002 by ilias - 47 messages - 21 authors

The toxicity of trolls      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Robert Hanlin wrote: ilias <at_news@
pontos.net> wrote: we are just a bunch of stuck-in-the-mud retards who, in 20
years, have failed to see the many glaring faults in our standards and
implementations. hard words. repeat them. Wow, he's starting to get more
insightful. (I'm not just ...
Sep 28 2002 by ilias - 134 messages - 46 authors

Upcoming Lisp Conference      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp quasi wrote: Please will you trim your
posts, at least!! Think of us poor folks who have only limited dialup access.
THANK YOU quasi of course. apologize!
Sep 28 2002 by ilias - 30 messages - 23 authors

"Well, I want to switch over to replace EMACS LISP with Guile."      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Erik Naggum wrote: * Erann Gat I am
sick and tired of arguing with you. You may wish to read an article I posted
recently on the indecency of flaunting your personal problems for others to care
about in public. If you are so sick and tired, the rational response is not to do what
you are ...
Sep 28 2002 by ilias - 212 messages - 62 authors

LISP - simple novice request      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Joseph Dale wrote: ilias wrote: i've
maybe expressed things complicated. how can i pass the function-name which
returns as first value from the function (get-macro-character #\`) to the function
trace ? get-macro-character does not return a function name as its first value, it
returns a ...
Sep 28 2002 by ilias - 9 messages - 4 authors

The toxicity of trolls      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Erik Naggum wrote: * Tim Bradshaw it's
quite hard to feel sympathy for our current troll. I find this an odd statement. I am
overwhelmed with sympathy for him, which is why I want nothing to do with him at
all. It is precisely because this is such a sympathy-inducing creature that he has
...
Sep 28 2002 by ilias - 134 messages - 46 authors

LISP - simple novice request      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Richard Krush wrote: ilias <at_news@
pontos.net> writes: i've maybe expressed things complicated. how can i pass the
function-name which returns as first value from the function (get-macro-character
#\`) to the function trace ? (trace (get-macro-character #\`) ) ; does not work My ...
Sep 28 2002 by ilias - 9 messages - 4 authors
LISP - simple novice request      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Richard Krush wrote: ilias <at_news@
pontos.net> writes: (trace (get-macro-character #\`)) ... (trace #'(get-macro-
character #\`) ) ilias, I'm sure somebody already told you this, but HyperSpec
really is your friend. If you would look TRACE up, you would see that the syntax is
as follows ...
Sep 28 2002 by ilias - 9 messages - 4 authors

The toxicity of trolls      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Espen Vestre wrote: Erik Naggum <erik
@naggum.no> writes: * Rolf Wester I'm German and I'm highly sensitive
concerning this kind of words. Not my problem. Please note that "Untermensch" is
a more dangerous expression than "Übermensch" (Nietsche never used the
former, btw ...
Sep 28 2002 by ilias - 134 messages - 46 authors

LISP - The Scary Readtable - () => [] - [#V0.6]      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp to the person which sent me an email
with subject my personal writing style: it would helped me much more, if you had
sent me an answer to this here (information i have requested) instead of telling
me thing about my *personal* style of writing in the news (information i have not
...
Sep 28 2002 by ilias - 18 messages - 6 authors

This newsgroup...      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp bruce wrote: In article <amups6$e6s$5
@usenet.otenet.gr>, ilias wrote: i'm here for about 7 weeks i think. when i cam
first, i hear from other people that cll is called 'hostile'. i start to assimilate lisp.
now i know: cll is hostile. Hostility is all a state of mind. Seeing hostility is also,
often, ...
Sep 28 2002 by ilias - 25 messages - 17 authors

Upcoming Lisp Conference      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Fred Gilham wrote: There's a lisp
conference coming up on Oct. 31 in San Francisco, CA, USA. The deadline for
registration is Sept. 31, but since September doesn't have 31 days I think the
organizer has agreed to extend the deadline a week. :-) Actually he said walk-in
registration ...
Sep 28 2002 by ilias - 30 messages - 23 authors

backquote expansion in LW      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Espen Vestre wrote: I might be feeding
the trolls (*), but I couldn't resist posting a little discovery I just made, and I think
newbies that get confused by certain postings on backquote may find this very
helpful: In LispWorks(**), the backquote expansion of nested backquotes is done
...
Sep 27 2002 by ilias - 4 messages - 2 authors

Chaosnet      Group: alt.folklore.computers
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp alt folklore computers Ignatios
Souvatzis wrote: Hi, I wrote: The only thing I can quickly locate online is: http://its.
svensson.org/sysdoc;chaord It seems to not be online at the moment, and I don't
have a copy here (maybe at home). Try yourself. of course, you can find it in the
google ...
Sep 27 2002 by ilias - 25 messages - 12 authors

This newsgroup...      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Fred Gilham wrote: Is it just me, or does
this newsgroup contain an _extraordinary_ amount of postings completely off-
topic and not related to LISP? I've also noticed a lot of bickering and hostility. Has
it always been like this? Yes, it always has. Lisp aficionados are a multi-faceted ...
Sep 26 2002 by ilias - 25 messages - 17 authors
This newsgroup...      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp quasi wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 22:
13:31 +0300, ilias <at_n...@pontos.net> wrote: you have described this very
nice. thanks but the main topic of this newsgroup is lisp. indeed yes. and not fun.
yes. But it may be so that a few here post regularly. This is a place where they '
hang ...
Sep 26 2002 by ilias - 25 messages - 17 authors

LISP - R5RS - John McCarthy      Group: comp.lang.scheme
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang scheme comp lang lisp Brian Palmer wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 21:23:08 +0300, at_n...@pontos.net said... You should
contact the author(s) of the document you cited and let them i'm not interested to
contact the author(s). i think that the authors are aware of the ambigouity.
Sep 26 2002 by ilias - 38 messages - 11 authors

This newsgroup...      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp quasi wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:
38:28 +0100, "Justin Johnson" <just...@mobiusent.com> wrote: Is it just me, or
does this newsgroup contain an _extraordinary_ amount of postings completely
off-topic and not related to LISP? I've also noticed a lot of bickering and hostility.
Sep 26 2002 by ilias - 25 messages - 17 authors

LISP - R5RS - John McCarthy      Group: comp.lang.scheme
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang scheme comp lang lisp Erann Gat wrote: In
article <amups3$e6...@usenet.otenet.gr>, ilias <at_n...@pontos.net> wrote:
finally: - no cash. Most public libraries do not require any. again, from another
answer: almost. and the taxis are not. (free) My goodness! You must really be in
dire ...
Sep 26 2002 by ilias - 38 messages - 11 authors
LISP - R5RS - John McCarthy      Group: comp.lang.scheme
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang scheme comp lang lisp Feuer wrote: Brian
Palmer wrote: " The report gives a dening description of the program- ming
language Scheme. Scheme is a statically scoped and properly tail-recursive
dialect of the Lisp programming language invented by Guy Lewis Steele Jr. and
Gerald Jay ...
Sep 26 2002 by ilias - 38 messages - 11 authors

backquote expansion in LW      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Espen Vestre wrote: I might be feeding
the trolls (*), but I couldn't resist posting a little discovery I just made, and I think
newbies that get confused by certain postings on backquote may find this very
helpful: why don't you post in topic, if you care about the newbies? don't you
realize ...
Sep 26 2002 by ilias - 4 messages - 2 authors

LISP - R5RS - John McCarthy      Group: comp.lang.scheme
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang scheme comp lang lisp Erann Gat wrote: In
article <amt24n$s0...@usenet.otenet.gr>, ilias <at_n...@pontos.net> wrote: -
i don't know where a library is. Hm. Where do you live? Perhaps I can help you
locate one. primary: - medium violation (must stay in usenet, internet thus my ...
Sep 26 2002 by ilias - 38 messages - 11 authors

ECL v0.6 released      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Juanjo wrote: Announcement of ECL v0
.6 ========================= ... * Visible changes and ANSI compatibility:
please check this: (set-syntax-from-char #\] #\) ) ; => T (set-syntax-from-char #\[ #\(
) ; => T [+ 3 2] ;ncs => 5 thank you!
Sep 25 2002 by ilias - 3 messages - 3 authors

LISP - R5RS - John McCarthy      Group: comp.lang.scheme
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang scheme comp lang lisp Feuer wrote: ilias
wrote: I suspect that John Grossman's book will answer your question. David we
are in usenet. many people follow discussions. it is more friendly, if the
information is provided directly. have you the information? why don't you share it
with me?
Sep 25 2002 by ilias - 38 messages - 11 authors
LISP - R5RS - John McCarthy      Group: comp.lang.scheme
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang scheme comp lang lisp Feuer wrote: ilias
wrote: John McCarthy -> inventor/designer of LISP. Can someone explain me,
why John McCarthy is in *not* referred in the whole document? as the inventor/
designer of LISP? eg: page 46 REFERENCES nothing. page 2: Background ...
Sep 25 2002 by ilias - 38 messages - 11 authors

LISP - The Scary Readtable - () => [] - [#V0.6]      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Could someone please help me with
the terminology / syntax of the document.? Definitions, derivation, the text-
replacements, general definitions, writing-style etc. Which is the notation usually
used by eg standards-organizations? eg "{}" for marking an altered text (where
the ...
Sep 25 2002 by ilias - 18 messages - 6 authors

read-right-paren      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Coby Beck wrote: "ilias" <at_news@
pontos.net> wrote in message news:amprs6$qdh$1@usenet.otenet.gr... Joe
Marshall wrote: It does *something*, but there is no particular defined behavior.
Many Common Lisp implementations have #\) signal an error. At least one
Common Lisp ...
Sep 25 2002 by ilias - 17 messages - 6 authors

Statistics for comp.lang.lisp      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Duane Rettig wrote: Joe Marshall <jrm
@ccs.neu.edu> writes: Greg Bacon <gba...@cs.uah.edu> writes: Top 10
Posters by Number of Posts ================================= 18 26.9 (
16.8/ 10.0/ 4.4) Joe Marshall <j...@ccs.neu.edu> I made it to number 6! Bottom
10 ...
Sep 25 2002 by ilias - 33 messages - 17 authors

NEWB question! Help please!      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Feral Dragoon wrote: I have been
looking through Guy Steele's Common Lisp book and have found no information
about reserved words or keywords. I am very new to LISP, and just wanted to
know if LISP uses reserved words or keywords and if it does... where can I find a
list of ...
Sep 25 2002 by ilias - 13 messages - 8 authors

LISP - Assholes      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp comp lang scheme Christopher Browne
wrote: Oops! Udo Zallmann <nongam...@hotmail.com> was seen spray-
painting on a wall: ilias wrote: assholes. [blurb snipped] Could you tell us what
that has got to do with Scheme? Probably as much as you'd have to look forward
to in the ...
Sep 25 2002 by ilias - 7 messages - 4 authors
LISP - Assholes      Group: comp.lang.scheme
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp comp lang scheme assholes. plural of
asshole. asshole. a 'bad' word for "anus". anus. people would die without it. why?
from their own excrements. excrements. a 'good' word for "shit". shit. the 'product'
of assholes. 'product'. the asshole throws it out. out of the body of the human.
Sep 24 2002 by ilias - 7 messages - 4 authors

read-right-paren      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Joe Marshall wrote: ilias <at_news@
pontos.net> writes: Joe Marshall wrote: Many Common Lisp implementations
have #\) signal an error. this is the general behaviour of Common Lisp
implementations. [which is faulty, but the author does not *know* that or does not
*state* that.
Sep 24 2002 by ilias - 17 messages - 6 authors
read-right-paren      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Joe Marshall wrote: Vladimir Zolotykh <
gsm...@eurocom.od.ua> writes: The (mapc #'(lambda (char) (set-macro-
character char (get-macro-character #\)))) '(#\] #\})) is common enough. Does the
READ-RIGHT-PAREN do something? notes to readers: here in cll and generally
in ...
Sep 24 2002 by ilias - 17 messages - 6 authors

Use Java! Was: becoming a better programmer      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang c++ comp lang lisp comp lang java
programmer comp lang perl misc jvm wrote: ... i *cannot* follow this discussion.
picking some samples brings some thoughts into my mind. i'd like to share them. (
i'm not sure if the facts on which my thoughts are based are correct ) Steele. one
of the ...
Sep 24 2002 by ilias - 433 messages - 150 authors

ZetaLisp top level environment      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Kaz Kylheku wrote: ilias <at_news@
pontos.net> wrote in message news:<amms69$ga...@usenet.otenet.gr>... i'ma
lisp-novice. and i don't know ZetaLisp. but 10.000 functions? sounds like bad
design. Nobody is interested in your uninformed opinions about works produced
by ...
Sep 23 2002 by ilias - 33 messages - 17 authors

LISP - 2 exponent 0 = 1      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Marco Antoniotti wrote: Ok, one last
time. I promise. I just cannot resist. ilias <at_n...@pontos.net> writes: ... Some
discussion on `Turing Test' elided ... A simple Google search will fill in the details.
Since it has been suggested up here that you are actually an AI, the fact that you
...
Sep 23 2002 by ilias - 87 messages - 32 authors

read-right-paren      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Pierpaolo BERNARDI wrote: "ilias" <
at_n...@pontos.net> ha scritto nel messaggio news:amn0dh$k9k$1@usenet.
otenet.gr... Usually, #\) has a reader macro associated to it that just signals an
error with a message of "close paren found at top level". this is not true for an
ANSI ...
Sep 23 2002 by ilias - 17 messages - 6 authors

ZetaLisp top level environment      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Barry Watson wrote: Will Deakin wrote:
Barry Watson wrote: Whilst reading Queinnec on the train this morning I was
surprised to learn that ZetaLisp had over 10000 functions in the top level
environment. Is this really true? I mean over 10000??? Why not? Compare this
with the ...
Sep 23 2002 by ilias - 33 messages - 17 authors

is it ok if I quote?      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp John Klein wrote: Erik Naggum <erik@
naggum.no> wrote in message news:<3241610025696...@naggum.no>... The
Fair Use Doctrine applies /because/ every published text is already protected by
copyright. There are lots of things copyright do not protect, but you have to ...
Sep 23 2002 by ilias - 42 messages - 21 authors

LISP - CommonLisp / Scheme - Differences      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang scheme comp lang lisp Christopher Browne
wrote: A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, Feuer <fe...@his.com> wrote:
ilias wrote: i've read them. scheme makes no sense. all lisp-dialects => common
lisp. scheme not. scheme = the most stubborn lispers. at least it looks so. anyway
...
Sep 23 2002 by ilias - 34 messages - 14 authors

LISP - 2 exponent 0 = 1      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp don't Apologies for the full quote. Marco
Antoniotti wrote: Apologies for the full quote. ilias <at_n...@pontos.net> writes:
Marco Antoniotti wrote: ilias <at_n...@pontos.net> writes: Marco Antoniotti
wrote: ilias <at_n...@pontos.net> writes: larry wrote: ilias, Would you be willing
to ...
Sep 23 2002 by ilias - 87 messages - 32 authors

LISP - CommonLisp / Scheme - Differences      Group: comp.lang.scheme
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp comp lang scheme Feuer wrote: ilias
wrote: i've read them. scheme makes no sense. all lisp-dialects => common lisp.
scheme not. scheme = the most stubborn lispers. at least it looks so. anyway. You
are an idiot. you've uncovered me. Common Lisp is only one of a number of Lisps
...
Sep 23 2002 by ilias - 34 messages - 14 authors
LISP - CommonLisp / Scheme - Differences      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp comp lang scheme Peter Lewerin wrote
: ilias wrote: Can someone point me to a (if possible short) document which
explains the differences between Scheme and Common Lisp? From Google I got
(among others): <URL: ...
Sep 21 2002 by ilias - 34 messages - 14 authors
LISP - CommonLisp / Scheme - Differences      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp comp lang scheme Can someone point
me to a (if possible short) document which explains the differences between
Scheme and Common Lisp?
Sep 21 2002 by ilias - 34 messages - 14 authors

LISP - [SPECS ERR] - Backquote - please confirm. - [#V0.3]      Group: comp.lang.dylan
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp comp lang scheme comp lang software
-eng comp lang smalltalk comp lang dylan comp lang python comp lang object I'
ve found a simple bug in the ANSI Common Lisp specification. At least i think so. I
've published this in comp.lang.lisp, and asked for validation. The bug is very ...
Sep 21 2002 by ilias - 1 message - 1 author

Accounting System (like SQL-Ledger) in Lisp?      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote: ilias <at_news
@pontos.net> writes: rejected. good. i see we can easily avoid stepping on each
others' toes. essential core. should be free of domain knowledge. if you mean
supporting libraries (a la bottom-up design), i would agree. but the essence of ...
Sep 21 2002 by ilias - 14 messages - 7 authors
Accounting System (like SQL-Ledger) in Lisp?      Group: comp.lang.lisp
ilias at_n...@pontos.net comp lang lisp Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote: ilias <at_news
@pontos.net> writes: by the way: two synchronized shozoids will beat the above
constellation. but finding them is nearly impossible. i'm thinking the remembrance
agent (by some dude at mit) could be useful for implementing auto-schizoid ...
Sep 20 2002 by ilias - 14 messages - 7 authors

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