The queer Montrose crowd.
Professor Vonroach
about time to close `houston.general' and look for better area. The
ignorant and the perverted have arrived supposing that everyone shares
their interest . This illustrates why `don't ask, don't tell' won't
work - queers always tell. Their self-centered perversion is the
center of their queer lives.
dlf
Don't let the door kick you in the ass on the way out. dlf
Professor Vonroach <vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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mb
(Professor Vonroach) wrote:
>The Montrose crowd has gone public on line in a burst of porn. It's
>about time to close `houston.general' and look for better area. The
>ignorant and the perverted have arrived supposing that everyone shares
>their interest . This illustrates why `don't ask, don't tell' won't
>work - queers always tell. Their self-centered perversion is the
>center of their queer lives.
Professor, you go girl!
mb
Ed Uthman
<vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> This illustrates why `don't ask, don't tell' won't
> work - queers always tell. Their self-centered perversion is the
> center of their queer lives.
Why, Professor, you certainly can turn an erudite phrase! Please tell
us what college you teach at, so we can take some of your courses and
improve our vocabularies.
Ed
--
Ed Uthman, MD <uth...@neosoft.com> "Nemo liber est qui
Pathologist, Houston/Richmond, Texas, USA corpori servit"
<http://www.neosoft.com/~uthman> -Seneca
Professor Vonroach
wrote:
>In article <38699f30...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com>, Professor Vonroach
><vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> This illustrates why `don't ask, don't tell' won't
>> work - queers always tell. Their self-centered perversion is the
>> center of their queer lives.
>
>Why, Professor, you certainly can turn an erudite phrase! Please tell
>us what college you teach at, so we can take some of your courses and
>improve our vocabularies.
>
>Ed
I'm delighted you understood Ed. Phonies often use euphemisms - `gays'
which is so far from the truth.
Professor Vonroach
>
>Don't let the door kick you in the ass on the way out. dlf
>
HA aha ha ha ha ...., you wish dawn. Don't get your hopes up. Just
get in the closet where you belong.
>
>Professor Vonroach <vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>news:38699f30...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com...
>> The Montrose crowd has gone public on line in a burst of porn. It's
>> about time to close `houston.general' and look for better area. The
>> ignorant and the perverted have arrived supposing that everyone shares
>> their interest . This illustrates why `don't ask, don't tell' won't
salz...@cloud9.net
vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com (Professor Vonroach) wrote:
> I'm delighted you understood Ed. Phonies often use euphemisms - `gays'
> which is so far from the truth.
. . .And, once again, "Prof" establishes conservatism as the agency of
ignorance and bigotry.
--
-------------
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http://www.cloud9.net/~salzberg
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Before you buy.
Max Tindell
bigotry as conservative hallmarks any more than Marion Barry established
all black liberal Democrats as progligate coke heads.
Max
Professor Vonroach
>
>. . .And, once again, "Prof" establishes conservatism as the agency of
>ignorance and bigotry.
Yes Salzberg, we all know which closet you are coming from.
Afro-americans are beginning to register some interesting remarks on
the absurdity of homosexual claims of `bigotry'. It is true ignorance
to relate a choice to a hereditary fact. You `gay' children should be
ashamed of yourselves, but of course you folks are totally
self-centered as always.
salz...@cloud9.net
vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com (Professor Vonroach) wrote:
>You `gay' children should be
> ashamed of yourselves, but of course you folks are totally
> self-centered as always.
I hate to break this to you, chuckles, but I'm straight.
Kirsten L.
>You `gay' children should be
>ashamed of yourselves, but of course you folks are totally
>self-centered as always.
>
Hey now, was that "The" professor calling someone else self-centered? Hmmm . .
. pot calling kettle black . . . I wonder.
Kirsten L.
Professor Vonroach
>In article <3875ab58...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com>,
> vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com (Professor Vonroach) wrote:
>
>>You `gay' children should be
>> ashamed of yourselves, but of course you folks are totally
>> self-centered as always.
>
>I hate to break this to you, chuckles, but I'm straight.
Salzberg - I didn't ask, so you don't have to tell me anything. I've
heard that lie many times from closet types.
Professor Vonroach
>>vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com (Professor Vonroach) remarked:
>
>>You `gay' children should be
>>ashamed of yourselves, but of course you folks are totally
>>self-centered as always.
>>
>
>Hey now, was that "The" professor calling someone else self-centered? Hmmm . .
>. pot calling kettle black . . . I wonder.
>
>Kirsten L.
Yes KL, any rejection of phony gay agenda and gay in-one's-face
propaganda usually brings a response such as yours.
All who disagree with the homosexual agenda are extremist, bigoted,
and self-centered. You homosexuals never give a minutes thought to the
family, the community, or the country except to exploit for your own
self-centered agenda. You are pathetic specimens KL.
MrHopper
<387150f0...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com>:
Talk about pathetic... Anyone that argues with you now is gay? Anyone
that thinks you are an egotesticle moron is gay? Someone that calls you
self-centered is gay? You are a really silly old man. When are you going
to have something worthwhile to contribute to any newsgroup. Do you have
any kids? I'd like to apologize to them for your assanine behaviour. But
they probably sit at the end of the table at family reunions shaking their
heads in sorrow and disgust everytime you open your mouth.
Kirsten L.
>All who disagree with the homosexual agenda are extremist, bigoted,
>>and self-centered.
What exactly is the homosexual agenda? I guess I missed out on that one. I
don't judge people by who or what they prefer in the privacy of their bedrooms.
That is such a small part of who we are as people, you know, like, a person
who can contribute something to society. But then, you don't have a clue as to
what that might be, do you?
>You homosexuals never give a minutes thought to the
>>family, the community, or the country except to exploit for your own
>>self-centered agenda.
Yeah, yeah, yeah...another flame from the dung-slinging pseudo professor.
Perhaps you should get your facts straight before moving your fingers over the
keyboard. I'm not about to go into my resume and the good I have done,
alongside some of the same people you try to degrade. You're the only one
being degraded here.
>You are pathetic specimens KL.
Yeah, yeah, yeah . . .pathetic is as pathetic does. What does that make you?
>You are a really silly old man. When are you going
>to have something worthwhile to contribute to any newsgroup. Do you have
>any kids? I'd like to apologize to them for your assanine behaviour. But
>they probably sit at the end of the table at family reunions shaking their
>heads in sorrow and disgust everytime you open your mouth.
>
This was the next thing I was going to say. You preach and puff yourself up so
much. Are you trying to make up for something that's missing in your life? If
you treat your family (assuming you have one) the way you treat others, that
would qualify as abuse. Do your children still want to spend time with you?
When was the last time they told you they loved you? Think about it.
Well, let me take my pathetic, self-centered, homosexual(?) ass out of here to
check on my husband of thirteen years, two kids who still like to crawl in my
lap and let me read to them, and the mistreated animals I nurture, oh, can't
forget to schedule my next volunteer time with the side-walking program. . .
Kirsten L.
(passes judgment on the way people treat each other...Professor VR failed. See
ya in hell)
Joel Hopper
fy1.aol.com>:
Hey, Kristen.
Try not to let Chas get to you. He's really not a very good troll. When
you have to respond to your own posts you CAN'T be considered even a
mediocre troll. Just ignore him. Eventually he'll die or something...
Professor Vonroach
snipped typical homosexual mantra. No originality, right off the
prompt sheet.
Mark
Professor Vonroach <vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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Professor Vonroach
>How many ways do you need to be told you're a mean-spirited, lonely old man?
You're new to Montrose aren't you? You left out religious extremist,
conservative extremist, old fashioned, bigoted, prejudiced, biased,
pathetic, moral extremist, fascist, homophobic, dumb, ignorant, and
all the other hate epithets used by homosexual activists. (Omitted
some of the very profane words often used.) You need to get up to
speed if you are dedicated to the homosexual life style.
Larry Kessler
>>How many ways do you need to be told you're a mean-spirited, lonely old man?
>
>You're new to Montrose aren't you? You left out religious extremist,
>conservative extremist, old fashioned, bigoted, prejudiced, biased,
>pathetic, moral extremist, fascist, homophobic, dumb, ignorant, and
>all the other
...accurate descriptions of your world view. These are hardly...
>hate epithets used by homosexual activists. (Omitted
>some of the very profane words often used.)
Those would probably apply to you as well.
>You need to get up to
>speed if you are dedicated to the homosexual life style.
Some of us who believe these things about you are married or otherwise
dedicated to a heterosexual lifestyle.
Mark
heterosexual yet not hate homosexuals.
Larry Kessler <l_k_e_s_s_l_e_r@w_t_._n_e_t> wrote in message
news:386e3d27.130827916@news-server...
Mark
gets me is your outright wholesale hostility toward a group of people, many
of whom are decent human beings who deserve to be treated with far more
respect than you and other bigots afford them.
Just look at your original post in this thread, not to mention most of your
other posts. You rarely offer anything that could remotely be considered
thoughtful debate. Just bitter invective expressing your knee-jerk visceral
reactions. Not long ago, people felt the same disgust at the thought of
mixing with "colored" people. (Good thing we have the 14th Amendment -- not
subject to revision by majority vote.)
Anyway, sorry I don't tolerate your misanthropic "lifestyle."
Professor Vonroach <vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 1 Jan 2000 12:26:18 -0600, "Mark" <atu...@wt.net> wrote:
>
> >It's probably beyond VR's comprehension to understand that one can be a
> >heterosexual yet not hate homosexuals.
>
> Mark, I have never accepted the homosexual propaganda that I must
> approve of any and all perverted sexual behavior, and attempts to
> portray such behavior to school kids as a variant of normal.
> You say I am intolerant because I do not accept your agenda
> propaganda. But I say that makes you the bigoted intolerant one. I
> have my opinion, and you have yours; but, before you make rulings and
> laws based on your personal views, I insist on a general vote to
> determine the position of a majority of the citizens.
Professor Vonroach
Kessler) wrote:
>On Sat, 01 Jan 2000 02:02:02 GMT, vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
>>>How many ways do you need to be told you're a mean-spirited, lonely old man?
>>
>>You're new to Montrose aren't you? You left out religious extremist,
>>conservative extremist, old fashioned, bigoted, prejudiced, biased,
>>pathetic, moral extremist, fascist, homophobic, dumb, ignorant, and
>>all the other
>
>...accurate descriptions of your world view. These are hardly...
>
>>hate epithets used by homosexual activists. (Omitted
>>some of the very profane words often used.)
>
>Those would probably apply to you as well.
>
>>You need to get up to
>>speed if you are dedicated to the homosexual life style.
>
>Some of us who believe these things about you are married or otherwise
>dedicated to a heterosexual lifestyle.
Yes of course you are kessler. ;)) So was Rock Hudson, though some
still harbor a few doubts about Liberace - seemed at home using AC or
DC.
Professor Vonroach
>It's probably beyond VR's comprehension to understand that one can be a
>heterosexual yet not hate homosexuals.
Mark, I have never accepted the homosexual propaganda that I must
approve of any and all perverted sexual behavior, and attempts to
portray such behavior to school kids as a variant of normal.
You say I am intolerant because I do not accept your agenda
propaganda. But I say that makes you the bigoted intolerant one. I
have my opinion, and you have yours; but, before you make rulings and
laws based on your personal views, I insist on a general vote to
determine the position of a majority of the citizens.
>Larry Kessler <l_k_e_s_s_l_e_r@w_t_._n_e_t> wrote in message
>news:386e3d27.130827916@news-server...
Larry Kessler
>>...accurate descriptions of your world view. These are hardly...
>>
>>>hate epithets used by homosexual activists. (Omitted
>>>some of the very profane words often used.)
>>
>>Those would probably apply to you as well.
>>
>>>You need to get up to
>>>speed if you are dedicated to the homosexual life style.
>>
>>Some of us who believe these things about you are married or otherwise
>>dedicated to a heterosexual lifestyle.
>
>Yes of course you are kessler. ;)) So was Rock Hudson, though some
>still harbor a few doubts about Liberace - seemed at home using AC or
>DC.
I could only wish for their acting and musical talents.
For someone who's never met me, you seem to think you know a lot about
me. Does it get you off to speculate about other people's sex lives?
salz...@cloud9.net
vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com (Professor Vonroach) wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Jan 2000 12:26:18 -0600, "Mark" <atu...@wt.net> wrote:
>
> >It's probably beyond VR's comprehension to understand that one can be
a
> >heterosexual yet not hate homosexuals.
>
> Mark, I have never accepted the homosexual propaganda that I must
> approve of any and all perverted sexual behavior
Again with the non-sequiturs. . . .
As Mark stated, in clear concise English, you are unable to understand
how *others* can defend the rights of groups to which they don't belong.
What this says about you, of course, is that your world-view is
dominated by selfishness. . .but we knew that.
Professor Vonroach
>I don't really have a problem with your not accepting homosexuals. What
>gets me is your outright wholesale hostility toward a group of people, many
>of whom are decent human beings who deserve to be treated with far more
>respect than you and other bigots afford them.
And the indecent ones, I take it they are due no respect, in your
views? How do you differentiate?
Is it indecent to attempt to teach little kids that perversion is
normal in the classroom? Is it indecent to make an objectionable
spectacle of oneself in public just to get the attention one thinks
one deserves? Is it indecent to butt in on the celebrations of others
- irish, italians - for political reasons, where they are unwelcome?
Is it indecent to ask for a handout and special privileges based on a
non-existent difference compared to an ethnicity, as you mouth below?
Is it indecent to intrude on a public newsgroup with pornographic and
lewd messages that offend others? How do you define this indecent
variety you allude to?
>Just look at your original post in this thread, not to mention most of your
>other posts. You rarely offer anything that could remotely be considered
>thoughtful debate. Just bitter invective expressing your knee-jerk visceral
>reactions. Not long ago, people felt the same disgust at the thought of
>mixing with "colored" people.
Back to the old homosexual ploy of comparing themselves to a real
ethnic minority in order to petition the government for a handout and
special consideration, Mark. You guys have no shame.
>Good thing we have the 14th Amendment -- not
>subject to revision by majority vote.)
It wasn't really designed for homosexuals. But I hate to be the one to
tell you it could be repealed at anytime the electorate, Congress,
State conventions or some combination there of decide to do so. This
could also happen to any other word, sentence or article in the
Constitution or any of its Amendments. The Framers were way ahead of
you friend, the mechanisms are in place if their use is ever needed.
>Anyway, sorry I don't tolerate your misanthropic "lifestyle."
Really? Now you equate disapproval of a tiny obnoxious group of people
with a perversion and a homosexual lifestyle with disapproval of
_MANKIND_! What hubris! What chutzpa! You are a fool.
Incidentally, the `homosexual lifestyle' included often living in a
homosexual ghetto such as the Montrose area, rampant homosexual
promiscuity, homosexual prostitution, recreational drug abuse,
frequent public demonstrations of pornographic and lewd behavior,
frequent use of profanity in public discourse, increased frequency of
specific diseases. It is a clear perversion and insult to most of
society and is intended to be such.
>
>Professor Vonroach <vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>news:3876bc00...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com...
>> On Sat, 1 Jan 2000 12:26:18 -0600, "Mark" <atu...@wt.net> wrote:
>>
>> >It's probably beyond VR's comprehension to understand that one can be a
>> >heterosexual yet not hate homosexuals.
>>
>> Mark, I have never accepted the homosexual propaganda that I must
Professor Vonroach
kessler - you seem ignorant of the fact that the homosexual lifestyle
involves much more than just a sexual perversion or even the lewd
sexual reference that you seem to need as a crutch to express ideas.
Larry Kessler
>>>>>You need to get up to
>>>>>speed if you are dedicated to the homosexual life style.
>>>>
>>>>Some of us who believe these things about you are married or otherwise
>>>>dedicated to a heterosexual lifestyle.
>>>
>>>Yes of course you are kessler. ;)) So was Rock Hudson, though some
>>>still harbor a few doubts about Liberace - seemed at home using AC or
>>>DC.
>>
>>I could only wish for their acting and musical talents.
>>
>>For someone who's never met me, you seem to think you know a lot about
>>me. Does it get you off to speculate about other people's sex lives?
>
>kessler - you seem ignorant of the fact that the homosexual lifestyle
>involves much more than just a sexual perversion or even the lewd
>sexual reference that you seem to need as a crutch to express ideas.
And you seem to "know" a lot about what you call the "lifestyle" for
someone who claims to be straight.
Methinks he doth protest too much.
Professor Vonroach
righto kessler, lifestyles is one of my specialties - homosexual,
alcoholic, drug abuser, and combinations. And of course family
oriented, as well as socialist (bureaucratic) type. You are right
lad, I am a specialist. Been studying the homosexual life style for
over 20 years since the earliest reports of AIDS. Wasn't much
interested in what seemed a harmless perversion affecting a trivial
number of people up to that time.
I'm not protesting, I'm professing. You should learn the difference.
Professor Vonroach
>In article <3876bc00...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com>,
> vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com (Professor Vonroach) wrote:
>> On Sat, 1 Jan 2000 12:26:18 -0600, "Mark" <atu...@wt.net> wrote:
>>
>> >It's probably beyond VR's comprehension to understand that one can be
>a
>> >heterosexual yet not hate homosexuals.
>>
>> Mark, I have never accepted the homosexual propaganda that I must
>> approve of any and all perverted sexual behavior
>
>Again with the non-sequiturs. . . .
>
>As Mark stated, in clear concise English, you are unable to understand
>how *others* can defend the rights of groups to which they don't belong.
>
>What this says about you, of course, is that your world-view is
>dominated by selfishness. . .but we knew that.
Salzberg I suspect selfishness is a genetic thing with you. No wonder
you see it everywhere you look. ;)
crabluv
Professor Vonroach wrote in message <3872dbdb...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com>...
>Been studying the homosexual life style for
>over 20 years since the earliest reports of AIDS. Wasn't much
>interested in what seemed a harmless perversion affecting a trivial
>number of people up to that time.
>
>I'm not protesting, I'm professing. You should learn the difference.
Do you think AIDS would not have affected mankind so soon if it were not for
those queers and their uncivil nature? Hopefully there will some day be
procedures to cure the homosexuals of there imbalance. It would at least end
a portion of the "problems" we face in the world today. Just hope it happens
before they create another strain of disease.
Mark
> On Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:05:06 -0600, "Mark" <atu...@wt.net> wrote:
>
> >I don't really have a problem with your not accepting homosexuals. What
> >gets me is your outright wholesale hostility toward a group of people,
many
> >of whom are decent human beings who deserve to be treated with far more
> >respect than you and other bigots afford them.
>
> And the indecent ones, I take it they are due no respect, in your
> views? How do you differentiate?
You are the one who condemned an entire group of people (who, I might add,
are rather HETEROgeneous) with one broad stroke.
> Is it indecent to attempt to teach little kids that perversion is
> normal in the classroom? Is it indecent to make an objectionable
> spectacle of oneself in public just to get the attention one thinks
> one deserves? Is it indecent to butt in on the celebrations of others
> - irish, italians - for political reasons, where they are unwelcome?
> Is it indecent to ask for a handout and special privileges based on a
> non-existent difference compared to an ethnicity, as you mouth below?
> Is it indecent to intrude on a public newsgroup with pornographic and
> lewd messages that offend others? How do you define this indecent
> variety you allude to?
>
Again, I don't do it by isolatling their mere sexual preference as you do.
> >Just look at your original post in this thread, not to mention most of
your
> >other posts. You rarely offer anything that could remotely be considered
> >thoughtful debate. Just bitter invective expressing your knee-jerk
visceral
> >reactions. Not long ago, people felt the same disgust at the thought of
> >mixing with "colored" people.
>
> Back to the old homosexual ploy of comparing themselves to a real
> ethnic minority in order to petition the government for a handout and
> special consideration, Mark. You guys have no shame.
>
Yes, I do think it can be as shameful to mistreat someone based solely on
sexual preference as it is to mistreat someone because of their ethnicity.
The beating death of Matthew Shepard as one awful example. I am not
necessarily in favor of extending all and the same protections to each
group, however.
> >Good thing we have the 14th Amendment -- not
> >subject to revision by majority vote.)
>
> It wasn't really designed for homosexuals. But I hate to be the one to
> tell you it could be repealed at anytime the electorate, Congress,
> State conventions or some combination there of decide to do so. This
> could also happen to any other word, sentence or article in the
> Constitution or any of its Amendments. The Framers were way ahead of
> you friend, the mechanisms are in place if their use is ever needed.
>
Though it should have been obvious, I was referring to a *simple* majority
to which you alluded in your previous post.
> >Anyway, sorry I don't tolerate your misanthropic "lifestyle."
>
> Really? Now you equate disapproval of a tiny obnoxious group of people
> with a perversion and a homosexual lifestyle with disapproval of
> _MANKIND_! What hubris! What chutzpa! You are a fool.
>
I suppose I need to be more precise for you to comprehend what is readily
apparent to most everyone but you: You are a homophobe because you condemn
homosexuals as a group and you do so in a hostile manner. But I think you
are are a misanthrope because, as demonstrated time and again by your
previous posts on various topics, you have a sour, ugly attitude toward
humanity in general.
> Incidentally, the `homosexual lifestyle' included often living in a
> homosexual ghetto such as the Montrose area, rampant homosexual
> promiscuity, homosexual prostitution, recreational drug abuse,
> frequent public demonstrations of pornographic and lewd behavior,
> frequent use of profanity in public discourse, increased frequency of
> specific diseases. It is a clear perversion and insult to most of
> society and is intended to be such.
> >
> >Professor Vonroach <vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> >news:3876bc00...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com...
> >> On Sat, 1 Jan 2000 12:26:18 -0600, "Mark" <atu...@wt.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >It's probably beyond VR's comprehension to understand that one can be
a
> >> >heterosexual yet not hate homosexuals.
> >>
> >> Mark, I have never accepted the homosexual propaganda that I must
Professor Vonroach
wrote:
Crabluv - I think you are trying to indoctrinate the professor. Sorry
kid, I don't buy it.
1. Mankind is not `affected' (did you mean afflicted or effected?) by
AIDS. Mostly middle aged male homosexuals are. The number of cases is
actually quite small as diseases go and it is almost unknown outside
this target group. There is no `great epidemic' - that is pure myth
created for several different reasons, the main one being to draw
attention to homosexuals and money to researchers while significant
problems such as several forms of cancer and cardiovascular diseases
are neglected among others.
2. Homosexuality is a choice often made by very self-centered people
to draw attention to themselves which they quickly deny is their aim,
though it clearly is. There is no `imbalance' and no cure is needed,
just a more mature choice.
3. There are already different strains of the HIVirus as with most
groupings. There is for instance a related strain that causes a
similar disease to AIDS (but different in significant ways) that
causes an similar syndrome in african teen age boys in central africa.
4. `Uncivil' is a poor term for the behavior of homosexuals. They
manifest arrested sexual development below the adult mature level
probably chosen for the attention it brings to them. It is more
obnoxious, pornographic, and disease prone (venereal and drug
addiction) than `uncivil'.
5. The word `queer' has many meanings. A more specific term,
homosexual or bisexual is preferred when contrasting with
heterosexual. `Gay' is also a misnomer. The lifestyle is anything but
`gay'. Many things are queer, strange, unusual, etc. I refuse to let
homosexuals plunder the English language with sordid new meanings and
profanity.
Professor Vonroach
>
>Professor Vonroach <vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>news:387246ef...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com...
>> On Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:05:06 -0600, "Mark" <atu...@wt.net> wrote:
>>
>> >I don't really have a problem with your not accepting homosexuals. What
>> >gets me is your outright wholesale hostility toward a group of people,
>many
>> >of whom are decent human beings who deserve to be treated with far more
>> >respect than you and other bigots afford them.
>>
>> And the indecent ones, I take it they are due no respect, in your
>> views? How do you differentiate?
>
>You are the one who condemned an entire group of people (who, I might add,
>are rather HETEROgeneous) with one broad stroke.
But you were about to instruct us in differentiating decent and
indecent human beings.. Are the decent ones heterogenous or the
indecent ones, or both? How do you identify indecent human beings who
you suggest are unworthy of respect?
>> Is it indecent to attempt to teach little kids that perversion is
>> normal in the classroom? Is it indecent to make an objectionable
>> spectacle of oneself in public just to get the attention one thinks
>> one deserves? Is it indecent to butt in on the celebrations of others
>> - irish, italians - for political reasons, where they are unwelcome?
>> Is it indecent to ask for a handout and special privileges based on a
>> non-existent difference compared to an ethnicity, as you mouth below?
>> Is it indecent to intrude on a public newsgroup with pornographic and
>> lewd messages that offend others? How do you define this indecent
>> variety you allude to?
>>
>
>Again, I don't do it by isolatling their mere sexual preference as you do.
You are reluctant to describe anything. Just mumble platitudes and
vacuous statements. You alluded to indecent human beings but have so
far failed to tell your meaning.
Mine was based on `life style' not mere sexual `preference'; a point
which seems to have flown by your platitute-deluded brain.
Homosexual lifestyle: immature sexual development frozen below the
adult heterosexual level, an apparent to draw attention to one's self
by pornographic behavior, promiscuous behavior, obnoxious behavior.
A tendency to cluster in homosexual neighborhoods. Frequent
`recreational' drug abuse and alcoholism coupled with frequent
venereal disease. Specific abnormalities in the body immune defenses.
An attempt to claim special treatment based on their `sexual
preference' along the lines of those granted to groups with _real_
problems with prejudice such as black Americans. A tendency to
proselytize and spread their immature beliefs among others as simply
variations of `normal'.
>> >Just look at your original post in this thread, not to mention most of
>your
>> >other posts. You rarely offer anything that could remotely be considered
>> >thoughtful debate. Just bitter invective expressing your knee-jerk
>visceral
>> >reactions. Not long ago, people felt the same disgust at the thought of
>> >mixing with "colored" people.
Well, perhaps you are finally coming clean. Are these `colored' people
your idea of indecent people? You really feel disgust at the thought
of `mixing'. How odd, I've `mixed' with them all my life and never
suffered such disgust as you preach. By and large, I find them good
and friendly people with a few bad apples like any other group.
Your `visceral reactions' are somewhat foreign to me; I tend to
_think_ rather than be led around by _feelings_ as you seem to be.
Debate? What `debate', you won't even identify your `indecent human
beings' and explain for us how they differ from your `decent human
beings'. You mouth empty words hoping for an emotional response, a
`knee-jerk' reaction as you put it. Well, Mark, some of us don't react
that way to your propaganda. Just tell us who you regard as indecent
beyond your pathetic canard against `colored' people. You are
gradually revealing your true nature.
>> Back to the old homosexual ploy of comparing themselves to a real
>> ethnic minority in order to petition the government for a handout and
>> special consideration, Mark. You guys have no shame.
>>
>
>Yes, I do think it can be as shameful to mistreat someone based solely on
>sexual preference as it is to mistreat someone because of their ethnicity.
>The beating death of Matthew Shepard as one awful example. I am not
>necessarily in favor of extending all and the same protections to each
>group, however.
And the beating death in Arkansas at the hands of homosexuals, were
you equally outraged by these acts? Do they perhaps rise to your
level of `indecent '? Whatever the behavioral obnoxiousness of Matthew
Shepard, and testimony to that effect was given at the trial, he did
not deserve to be murdered and the guilty were punished - you did know
that did you not? Or were you perhaps just bringing the matter up to
attempt to elicit some emotional `knee jerk' reaction?
>> >Good thing we have the 14th Amendment -- not
>> >subject to revision by majority vote.)
>>
>> It wasn't really designed for homosexuals. But I hate to be the one to
>> tell you it could be repealed at anytime the electorate, Congress,
>> State conventions or some combination there of decide to do so. This
>> could also happen to any other word, sentence or article in the
>> Constitution or any of its Amendments. The Framers were way ahead of
>> you friend, the mechanisms are in place if their use is ever needed.
>>
>
>Though it should have been obvious, I was referring to a *simple* majority
>to which you alluded in your previous post.
>
>> >Anyway, sorry I don't tolerate your misanthropic "lifestyle."
My, my, you admit to intolerance, and again accuse me of hatred of
mankind. You are really a bigoted prejudiced person aren't you. Shame
on you. You should think the meaning of feel-good vacuous statements a
little more thoroughly.
>> Really? Now you equate disapproval of a tiny obnoxious group of people
>> with a perversion and a homosexual lifestyle with disapproval of
>> _MANKIND_! What hubris! What chutzpa! You are a fool.
>>
>
>I suppose I need to be more precise for you to comprehend what is readily
>apparent to most everyone but you: You are a homophobe because you condemn
>homosexuals as a group and you do so in a hostile manner. But I think you
>are are a misanthrope because, as demonstrated time and again by your
>previous posts on various topics, you have a sour, ugly attitude toward
>humanity in general.
And if I may note you show evidence of a typical homosexual reaction
to criticism. Perhaps you should defend your lifestyle rather than
indulge in ad hominem empty charges.
salz...@cloud9.net
vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com (Professor Vonroach) wrote:
> 1. Mankind is not `affected' (did you mean afflicted or effected?) by
> AIDS. Mostly middle aged male homosexuals are.
We can add this to the lengthy list of claims made by "Prof" that are,
simply, not true. Worldwide, AIDS is -- and has been since it came on
the scene -- primarily found in heterosexuals. That's why my most
recent girlfriend and I have the test before moving in together.
> 2. Homosexuality is a choice often made by very self-centered people
So, if it's a choice,that means you believe that people sit down and
weigh the various options. Presumably, some then opt for homosexuality
while others opt for heterosexuality. This is arrant nonsense; people
are attracted to whomever they happen to be attracted to.
> to draw attention to themselves which they quickly deny is their aim,
> though it clearly is.
Much like your hate-filled posts on Usenet.
> I refuse to let
> homosexuals plunder the English language
. . .Preferring, obviously, to do it yourself.
Patrick L. Humphrey
>On Sun, 2 Jan 2000 19:10:27 -0500, "crabluv" <crabs...@pubic.org>
>wrote:
>>Professor Vonroach wrote in message <3872dbdb...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com>...
>>>Been studying the homosexual life style for
>>>over 20 years since the earliest reports of AIDS. Wasn't much
>>>interested in what seemed a harmless perversion affecting a trivial
>>>number of people up to that time.
>>>I'm not protesting, I'm professing. You should learn the difference.
>>Do you think AIDS would not have affected mankind so soon if it were not for
>>those queers and their uncivil nature? Hopefully there will some day be
>>procedures to cure the homosexuals of there imbalance. It would at least end
>>a portion of the "problems" we face in the world today. Just hope it happens
>>before they create another strain of disease.
>Crabluv - I think you are trying to indoctrinate the professor. Sorry
>kid, I don't buy it.
Don't worry, Sham Prof -- you don't have enough gold to even dream about
buying it.
>1. Mankind is not `affected' (did you mean afflicted or effected?) by
>AIDS. Mostly middle aged male homosexuals are. The number of cases is
>actually quite small as diseases go and it is almost unknown outside
>this target group. There is no `great epidemic' - that is pure myth
>created for several different reasons, the main one being to draw
>attention to homosexuals and money to researchers while significant
>problems such as several forms of cancer and cardiovascular diseases
>are neglected among others.
Yeah, I'm sure the heterosexuals who make up ~90% of all AIDS cases on this
planet will be comforted to hear _your_ words of "wisdom".
>2. Homosexuality is a choice often made by very self-centered people
>to draw attention to themselves which they quickly deny is their aim,
>though it clearly is. There is no `imbalance' and no cure is needed,
>just a more mature choice.
You say it's a choice -- so where are your cites?
I never made a conscious choice to become heterosexual -- it's something I've
been as far back as I can remember. If that's possible, why isn't it possible
that homosexuality could be of similar origins?
>3. There are already different strains of the HIVirus as with most
>groupings. There is for instance a related strain that causes a
>similar disease to AIDS (but different in significant ways) that
>causes an similar syndrome in african teen age boys in central africa.
Different in what significant ways? The results are the same -- dead is
dead.
>4. `Uncivil' is a poor term for the behavior of homosexuals. They
>manifest arrested sexual development below the adult mature level
>probably chosen for the attention it brings to them. It is more
>obnoxious, pornographic, and disease prone (venereal and drug
>addiction) than `uncivil'.
Yeah, heterosexuals NEVER do anything immoral, do they?
>5. The word `queer' has many meanings. A more specific term,
>homosexual or bisexual is preferred when contrasting with
>heterosexual. `Gay' is also a misnomer. The lifestyle is anything but
>`gay'. Many things are queer, strange, unusual, etc. I refuse to let
>homosexuals plunder the English language with sordid new meanings and
>profanity.
Refuse all you want to, Fake Prof -- you don't dictate the English language
for the rest of us.
You may now proclaim that I'm obviously homosexual, too -- too bad for you
that I'm something you'll never be accused of: secure enough in the knowledge
of who I am that I'm not terrified by the existence of anyone who's not just
like me.
--PLH, the Fake Prof is going to stop homosexuality about as much as he's
going to stop heterosexuality
Professor Vonroach
Good ol' Jeff returns the usual memorized homosexual doctrines. Pure
bunkum.
>In article <38729080...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com>,
> vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com (Professor Vonroach) wrote:
>
>> 1. Mankind is not `affected' (did you mean afflicted or effected?) by
>> AIDS. Mostly middle aged male homosexuals are.
>
>We can add this to the lengthy list of claims made by "Prof" that are,
>simply, not true. Worldwide, AIDS is -- and has been since it came on
>the scene -- primarily found in heterosexuals. That's why my most
>recent girlfriend and I have the test before moving in together.
>
>> 2. Homosexuality is a choice often made by very self-centered people
>
>So, if it's a choice,that means you believe that people sit down and
>weigh the various options. Presumably, some then opt for homosexuality
>while others opt for heterosexuality. This is arrant nonsense; people
>are attracted to whomever they happen to be attracted to.
>
>> to draw attention to themselves which they quickly deny is their aim,
>> though it clearly is.
>
>Much like your hate-filled posts on Usenet.
>
>> I refuse to let
>> homosexuals plunder the English language
>
Professor Vonroach
wrote:
>vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com (Professor Vonroach) writes:
>
>>On Sun, 2 Jan 2000 19:10:27 -0500, "crabluv" <crabs...@pubic.org>
>>wrote:
>
>>>Professor Vonroach wrote in message <3872dbdb...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com>...
>>>>Been studying the homosexual life style for
>>>>over 20 years since the earliest reports of AIDS. Wasn't much
>>>>interested in what seemed a harmless perversion affecting a trivial
>>>>number of people up to that time.
>
>>>>I'm not protesting, I'm professing. You should learn the difference.
>
>>>Do you think AIDS would not have affected mankind so soon if it were not for
>>>those queers and their uncivil nature? Hopefully there will some day be
>>>procedures to cure the homosexuals of there imbalance. It would at least end
>>>a portion of the "problems" we face in the world today. Just hope it happens
>>>before they create another strain of disease.
>
>>Crabluv - I think you are trying to indoctrinate the professor. Sorry
>>kid, I don't buy it.
>
>Don't worry, Sham Prof -- you don't have enough gold to even dream about
>buying it.
After delivering the usual homosexual ad hominem, at this point
crabluv (a moniker that inspires disgust) launches into reading the
stale phony doctrine from he same propaganda sheet used by salzberg.
These homosexual propagandists are so predictable. Lies and slander
all the way through.
>>1. Mankind is not `affected' (did you mean afflicted or effected?) by
>>AIDS. Mostly middle aged male homosexuals are. The number of cases is
>>actually quite small as diseases go and it is almost unknown outside
>>this target group. There is no `great epidemic' - that is pure myth
>>created for several different reasons, the main one being to draw
>>attention to homosexuals and money to researchers while significant
>>problems such as several forms of cancer and cardiovascular diseases
>>are neglected among others.
>
>Yeah, I'm sure the heterosexuals who make up ~90% of all AIDS cases on this
>planet will be comforted to hear _your_ words of "wisdom".
>
>>2. Homosexuality is a choice often made by very self-centered people
>>to draw attention to themselves which they quickly deny is their aim,
salz...@cloud9.net
vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com (Professor Vonroach) wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Jan 2000 16:05:25 GMT, salz...@cloud9.net wrote:
>
> Good ol' Jeff returns the usual memorized homosexual doctrines. Pure
> bunkum.
. . .And once again, Prof, confroted with facts, retreats behing a wall
of ad hominem.
Let's see. . . .
Your belief is that anyone who supports gays' rights must be gay. Let's
take that "logic" a little further. . . .
I've supported women's rights; therefore, I must be female.
I've supported supported blacks in their struggle against
discrimination; therefore, I must be African-American.
I've supported Hispanics, too, so I must belong to that group.
I've condemned the WWII incarceration of American citizens who happened
to have been of Japanese origin.
I've supported the Bosnians, so I must be Moslem.
I've fought anti-semitism, so I'm obviously Jewish.
. . .So -- according to your "logic" -- I must be a female Hispanic
African-American Japanese Moslem Jew.
salz...@cloud9.net
vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com (Professor Vonroach) wrote:
> After delivering the usual homosexual ad hominem, at this point
> crabluv (a moniker that inspires disgust) launches into reading the
> stale phony doctrine from he same propaganda sheet used by salzberg.
Please feel free to cite verifiable data proving us wrong.
Hint: you can't.
Mark
most of your comments below. They reveal much about you, though I would
imagine not in the manner you intended. But I find it interesting that you
initiated this thread in typical nasty VR fashion with an amorphous hostile
blanket rant about homosexuals or "queers", as you call them, then attempt
to backtrack and say you're only preaching against a certain lifestyle.
What is it? Do you hate all homosexuals or just a subset of them? I would
bet on the former as hate appears to be your default mindset.
Professor Vonroach <vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:387395da...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com...
Joel Hopper
<387395da...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com>:
I don't think I've ever seem anyone so afraid of someone else in my life.
Intolerance is what starts most wars, Chas. Why don't you just crawl under
your rock and stay there.
Patrick L. Humphrey
>On 03 Jan 2000 15:10:03 -0600, pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey)
>wrote:
>>vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com (Professor Vonroach) writes:
>>>On Sun, 2 Jan 2000 19:10:27 -0500, "crabluv" <crabs...@pubic.org>
>>>wrote:
>>>>Professor Vonroach wrote in message <3872dbdb...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com>...
>>>>>Been studying the homosexual life style for
>>>>>over 20 years since the earliest reports of AIDS. Wasn't much
>>>>>interested in what seemed a harmless perversion affecting a trivial
>>>>>number of people up to that time.
>>>>>I'm not protesting, I'm professing. You should learn the difference.
>>>>Do you think AIDS would not have affected mankind so soon if it were not
>>>>for those queers and their uncivil nature? Hopefully there will some day be
>>>>procedures to cure the homosexuals of there imbalance. It would at least
>>>>end a portion of the "problems" we face in the world today. Just hope it
>>>>happens before they create another strain of disease.
>>>Crabluv - I think you are trying to indoctrinate the professor. Sorry
>>>kid, I don't buy it.
>>Don't worry, Sham Prof -- you don't have enough gold to even dream about
>>buying it.
>After delivering the usual homosexual ad hominem, at this point
>crabluv (a moniker that inspires disgust) launches into reading the
>stale phony doctrine from he same propaganda sheet used by salzberg.
>These homosexual propagandists are so predictable. Lies and slander
>all the way through.
[the remaining 60 lines deleted, since "Prof" couldn't be bothered to pay
attention to them]
Well, "Prof", if you're going to whine at this "crabluv" character, why are
you responding to him in a post *I* made?
If you truly believe I (or anyone else who's dared to differ with you) am
slandering you, I suggest you try and find a court that'll be bothered with
listening to you. It would be fun to watch you get a quick lesson in just
what "diminimis non curat lex" REALLY means.
--PLH, it means "Darwin bats last in court, too"
Joel Hopper
>On Sun, 2 Jan 2000 19:10:27 -0500, "crabluv" <crabs...@pubic.org>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Professor Vonroach wrote in message
<3872dbdb...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com>...
>>>Been studying the homosexual life style for
>>>over 20 years since the earliest reports of AIDS. Wasn't much
>>>interested in what seemed a harmless perversion affecting a trivial
>>>number of people up to that time.
>>>
>>>I'm not protesting, I'm professing. You should learn the difference.
>>
>>Do you think AIDS would not have affected mankind so soon if it were not
for
>>those queers and their uncivil nature? Hopefully there will some day be
>>procedures to cure the homosexuals of there imbalance. It would at least
end
>>a portion of the "problems" we face in the world today. Just hope it
happens
>>before they create another strain of disease.
>>
>Crabluv - I think you are trying to indoctrinate the professor. Sorry
>kid, I don't buy it.
>1. Mankind is not `affected' (did you mean afflicted or effected?) by
>AIDS. Mostly middle aged male homosexuals are. The number of cases is
>actually quite small as diseases go and it is almost unknown outside
>this target group. There is no `great epidemic' - that is pure myth
>created for several different reasons, the main one being to draw
>attention to homosexuals and money to researchers while significant
>problems such as several forms of cancer and cardiovascular diseases
>are neglected among others.
>2. Homosexuality is a choice often made by very self-centered people
>to draw attention to themselves which they quickly deny is their aim,
>though it clearly is. There is no `imbalance' and no cure is needed,
>just a more mature choice.
>3. There are already different strains of the HIVirus as with most
>groupings. There is for instance a related strain that causes a
>similar disease to AIDS (but different in significant ways) that
>causes an similar syndrome in african teen age boys in central africa.
>4. `Uncivil' is a poor term for the behavior of homosexuals. They
>manifest arrested sexual development below the adult mature level
>probably chosen for the attention it brings to them. It is more
>obnoxious, pornographic, and disease prone (venereal and drug
>addiction) than `uncivil'.
>5. The word `queer' has many meanings. A more specific term,
>homosexual or bisexual is preferred when contrasting with
>heterosexual. `Gay' is also a misnomer. The lifestyle is anything but
>`gay'. Many things are queer, strange, unusual, etc. I refuse to let
>homosexuals plunder the English language with sordid new meanings and
>profanity.
The following information is for Professor Chas' perusal.
This is taken from the American Foundation for AIDS research:
---------------
World AIDS Day 1999 was held in the wake of an annual update on the global
epidemic released by the United Nations Joint Programme on HIV/AIDS
(UNAIDS). Based on information available to UNAIDS and the World Health
Organization as of December 1999, this update provides some of the best
available estimates of the impact of HIV/AIDS and the continued spread of
the epidemic. Some highlights include:
There were over 15,000 new HIV infections a day in 1999
More than 95% of these new infections were in developing countries
1,600 children under the age of 15 were newly infected with HIV each day in
1999
Among people aged 15 to 49 years:
Over 40% of new infections occurred among women
Over 50% of new infections occurred among 15 to 24-year-olds
People newly infected with HIV in 1999
Total 5.6 million
Adults 5 million
Women 2.3 million
Children <15 years 570,000
Number of people living with HIV/AIDS
Total 33.6 million
Adults 32.4 million
Women 14.8 million
Children <15 years 1.2 million
AIDS deaths in 1999
Total 2.6 million
Adults 2.1 million
Women 1.1 million
Children <15 years 470,000
Total number of AIDS deaths since the beginning of the epidemic
Total 16.3 million
Adults 12.7 million
Women 6.2 million
Children <15 years 3.6 million
-------------
Mike Leonard
"Joel Hopper" <hop...@nospam.santafe-snyder.com> wrote in message
news:8EB15794Ahoppe...@209.252.122.124...
Did they not specify specific groups of people that were mostly affected by
HIV/AIDS in their study?
>
>
> -------------
Professor Vonroach
>In article <38732b64...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com>,
> vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com (Professor Vonroach) wrote:
>> On Mon, 03 Jan 2000 16:05:25 GMT, salz...@cloud9.net wrote:
>>
>> Good ol' Jeff returns the usual memorized homosexual doctrines. Pure
>> bunkum.
>
>. . .And once again, Prof, confroted with facts, retreats behing a wall
>of ad hominem.
salzberg continues in a deep state of denial.
>Let's see. . . .
>
>Your belief is that anyone who supports gays' rights must be gay. Let's
>take that "logic" a little further. . . .
>
>I've supported women's rights; therefore, I must be female.
>
>I've supported supported blacks in their struggle against
>discrimination; therefore, I must be African-American.
>
>I've supported Hispanics, too, so I must belong to that group.
>
>I've condemned the WWII incarceration of American citizens who happened
>to have been of Japanese origin.
>
>I've supported the Bosnians, so I must be Moslem.
>
>I've fought anti-semitism, so I'm obviously Jewish.
>
>. . .So -- according to your "logic" -- I must be a female Hispanic
>African-American Japanese Moslem Jew.
And you see everybody as a victim, who has lost any control over their
life. And you lump all your supposed together in generalities and
serve up an ad hominem salad. And then have the chutzpah to call this
emotional stew - logic.
Professor Vonroach
>This is going nowhere fast. I will leave you with the last word with re to
>most of your comments below. They reveal much about you, though I would
>imagine not in the manner you intended. But I find it interesting that you
>initiated this thread in typical nasty VR fashion with an amorphous hostile
>blanket rant about homosexuals or "queers", as you call them, then attempt
>to backtrack and say you're only preaching against a certain lifestyle.
>What is it? Do you hate all homosexuals or just a subset of them? I would
>bet on the former as hate appears to be your default mindset.
>
Do you `discuss' by attempting to demonize everybody who disagrees
with your `lifestyle'? Perhaps you should put forward a few good
points of the homosexual lifestyle if you see any.
Professor Vonroach
>In article <38742be2...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com>,
> vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com (Professor Vonroach) wrote:
>
>> After delivering the usual homosexual ad hominem, at this point
>> crabluv (a moniker that inspires disgust) launches into reading the
>> stale phony doctrine from he same propaganda sheet used by salzberg.
>
>Please feel free to cite verifiable data proving us wrong.
>
>Hint: you can't.
Hint: You are an indoctrinated `victim' who `feels' your victimhood.
Why bother, you only accept your own dogma.
Professor Vonroach
wrote:
Pat repeats his indoctrinated hate.
Professor Vonroach
<mleo...@houston.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>Did they not specify specific groups of people that were mostly affected by
>HIV/AIDS in their study?
>
It's all part of the scam. Phony stats., phony definitions, phony
conclusions. Pure puffery , no more. An appeal for more money to put
in their pockets by fanning the flames of yet another hysteria.
Mark
occasionally feel compelled to declare some measure of disdain for people
like you who express wholesale hatred toward an entire group of people.
(Again, you didn't answer my question of whether you hate all homosexuals or
just selected ones. I'd really like to know, for my own edification.) And
once again, though it is very difficult for you to grasp, even though I
don't hate homosexuals, I'm not homosexual; therefore, I don't lead a
homosexual lifestyle, as you apparently insist I do. In fact, I have a
great woman in my life. Do you?
As far as a few good points about the homosexual "lifestyle," though I can't
understand why two men would find each other attractive, I really don't care
that they do. I have known a number of homosexuals who lead productive
lives and are kind and good people. I have known some that are not so good.
Both sides of the coin being not much different from heterosexuals I know.
There are good and bad ones in both groups. There are also people from both
groups who engage in unprotected promiscuous sex, prostitution, drug use,
etc. As far as I'm concerned, those in both groups engage in harmful
behavior. However, unlike you, I don't draw the line at their sexual
preference in deciding whether I think they're good people or not.
Professor Vonroach <vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:3874828b...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com...
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 02:40:42 -0600, "Mark" <atu...@wt.net> wrote:
>
> >This is going nowhere fast. I will leave you with the last word with re
to
> >most of your comments below. They reveal much about you, though I would
> >imagine not in the manner you intended. But I find it interesting that
you
> >initiated this thread in typical nasty VR fashion with an amorphous
hostile
> >blanket rant about homosexuals or "queers", as you call them, then
attempt
> >to backtrack and say you're only preaching against a certain lifestyle.
> >What is it? Do you hate all homosexuals or just a subset of them? I
would
> >bet on the former as hate appears to be your default mindset.
> >
Mike Leonard
Ok. But it did not answer my question. I would truly like to see the
breakdown (demographics) of this most frightening epidemic.
Joel Hopper
>On Tue, 04 Jan 2000 17:11:45 GMT, "Mike Leonard"
><mleo...@houston.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>
>>
>>Did they not specify specific groups of people that were mostly affected by
>>HIV/AIDS in their study?
>>
>It's all part of the scam. Phony stats., phony definitions, phony
>conclusions. Pure puffery , no more. An appeal for more money to put
>in their pockets by fanning the flames of yet another hysteria.
Is that the best you can do Chas? I show you the proof you so desperately do
nt want to see and you call it fake. You want the URL? And what's worse,
you aren't saying that _I'm_ lying, you're saying that the American
Foundation for AIDS research is lying. Get a grip on reality Chas.
Joel Hopper
>On 04 Jan 2000 08:24:39 -0600, pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey)
>wrote:
>
>Pat repeats his indoctrinated hate.
That's some creative snipping there Chas. Next time don't snip the hate
you're referring to. It makes you look like a silly loon.
Professor Vonroach
<mleonard@@houston.rr.com> wrote:
>
>"Professor Vonroach" <vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>news:387885cf...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com...
>> On Tue, 04 Jan 2000 17:11:45 GMT, "Mike Leonard"
>> <mleo...@houston.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>> >Did they not specify specific groups of people that were mostly affected
>by
>> >HIV/AIDS in their study?
>> >
>> It's all part of the scam. Phony stats., phony definitions, phony
>> conclusions. Pure puffery , no more. An appeal for more money to put
>> in their pockets by fanning the flames of yet another hysteria.
>
>Ok. But it did not answer my question. I would truly like to see the
>breakdown (demographics) of this most frightening epidemic.
>
It is not a `frightening epidemic'. It is a homosexual scam fishing
for money and sympathy. You really don't know much about mind control
and scams in the modern art of Media, do you kid? Pity, guess you'll
just have to remain `frightened' by the big bad scam con artists.
Professor Vonroach
>As far as a few good points about the homosexual "lifestyle," though I can't
>understand why two men would find each other attractive, I really don't care
>that they do. I have known a number of homosexuals who lead productive
>lives and are kind and good people. I have known some that are not so good.
>Both sides of the coin being not much different from heterosexuals I know.
>There are good and bad ones in both groups. There are also people from both
>groups who engage in unprotected promiscuous sex, prostitution, drug use,
>etc. As far as I'm concerned, those in both groups engage in harmful
>behavior. However, unlike you, I don't draw the line at their sexual
>preference in deciding whether I think they're good people or not.
>
mush is just feel good rhetoric. You really don't care what kids are
taught in school. You really think that homosexual choice should be
elevated to the level of race and gender in legal terms. You are a
wishy washy jerk, or you are a homosexual apologist hoping to get and
advantage with all this nonsense.
Patrick L. Humphrey
>On 04 Jan 2000 08:24:39 -0600, pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey)
>wrote:
(and, what a surprise, Charles removes it all)
>Pat repeats his indoctrinated hate.
Yeah, I guess turning tail and running away from what I pointed out equates to
"indoctrinated hate" in that cramped little walnut shell you use for a brain,
Charlie.
You ever gonna get around to letting us know what institution you conned into
giving you the title of "Professor"?
--PLH, or do the TDC have non-disclosure agreements?
Patrick L. Humphrey
>vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com (Professor Vonroach) wrote in <3877855b...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com>:
>>On 04 Jan 2000 08:24:39 -0600, pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey)
>>wrote:
>>Pat repeats his indoctrinated hate.
>That's some creative snipping there Chas. Next time don't snip the hate
>you're referring to. It makes you look like a silly loon.
Yeah, but if he leaves it in, it makes him look even more like a loon...it's not
easy being a professional crank. :-)
--PLH, in sympathy for Charles' dilemma, I'll observe a moment of noise
rich...@library.tmc.edu
story, 2 bedroom townhouse) and the neighborhood in which I live
(Montrose) are the things I like best about this city. I'm only 2 1/2
miles from work (10 minutes, no freeways) and I'm 10 minutes *walking*
distance of Kroger, Walgreen's, Hollywood, Blockbuster, two gay
bookstore, eight bars, 20 restaurants, and my gym. I pay about 1/3rd
less rent than I'd pay for a comparable place in a comparable
neighborhood in Atlanta.
rpj
Mike Leonard
Scary thought raising a lifestyle to a race or gender status. Now we will
have to raise the following groups as well. Swingers, S&M, B/D, Animal
lovers, Animal haters, Blondes, Brunnettes, Redheads, and anyone else who
has a separate agenda. I would have included drug addicts but the goverment
already has programs set aside, believe it's called Social Security, for
dealing with this disease.
Mike L
Mike Leonard
offered a special on his docturate studies.
"Patrick L. Humphrey" <pat...@rice.edu> wrote in message
news:84vmph$574$2...@joe.rice.edu...
> In article <3877855b...@NNTP.ix.netcom.com>,
vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com (Professor Vonroach) writes:
> >On 04 Jan 2000 08:24:39 -0600, pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey)
> >wrote:
>
> (and, what a surprise, Charles removes it all)
>
> >Pat repeats his indoctrinated hate.
>
rich...@library.tmc.edu
<mleonard@@houston.rr.com> wrote:
>Scary thought raising a lifestyle to a race or gender status. Now we will
>have to raise the following groups as well. Swingers, S&M, B/D, Animal
>lovers, Animal haters, Blondes, Brunnettes, Redheads, and anyone else who
>has a separate agenda. I would have included drug addicts but the goverment
>already has programs set aside, believe it's called Social Security, for
>dealing with this disease.
Sexual orientation is not a lifestyle choice. It is a fundamental part
of human development, like eye-color or handedness. The only ones who
say otherwise are straight people who suffer from the "I'm a fish so
everyone must have gills" fallacy.
rpj
Adam Weiss
And about 1/4 to 1/5 what you'd pay in the Village of NYC. When I lived
in NYC I was paying $650 for a two room rathole that was a 45 minute
subway ride from work and a 30 minute subway ride from the museums.
Here in Houston I'm paying $540 for a good sized one bedroom with a walk
in closet. I can walk to work/school at Rice AND to the museums.
Really I should mention, as 'alternative' neighborhoods go, Montrose
seems pretty tame to me. Perhaps it's just because of some similar
neighborhoods I've seen in other cities. Ever been to the Red Light
District in Amsterdam? 8th street or 42nd street 10 years ago in NYC?
--
Adam Weiss
w...@whazo.com
--
People in stone houses shouldn't throw glass.
--
Patrick L. Humphrey
>On 5 Jan 2000 15:08:33 GMT, pat...@rice.edu (Patrick L. Humphrey)
>wrote:
>snipped a few extraneous remarks. Greetings Pat, always nice to
>receive word that the Rice nerdys are listening.
Always nice to know that even you don't believe what you're pushing, Charles.
--PLH, on to more important stuff
Patrick L. Humphrey
>On 5 Jan 2000 15:18:41 GMT, pat...@rice.edu (Patrick L. Humphrey)
>wrote:
>snipped nonsense. Patty - you and the Rice gang still at the old
>haunts on Montrose?
What is "the Rice gang"? I work at the University, and I don't hang around
Montrose, which is only logical, since I live in Sharpstown.
Could you lay off the Everclear before you post?
--PLH, amused to see another self-appointed psychic telling me details of my
life...too bad they've nothing to do with reality, but that's the breaks
Patrick L. Humphrey
>Could have been an online study course. I think the dean, Sally Struthers,
>offered a special on his docturate studies.
I think in Charles' case, it was micturate studies...
--PLH, watch him sprain a neuron or two sussing that one
Lou Minatti™
>
> I moved to Houston in June and thus far the place I'm living (a 2
> story, 2 bedroom townhouse) and the neighborhood in which I live
> (Montrose) are the things I like best about this city. I'm only 2 1/2
> miles from work (10 minutes, no freeways) and I'm 10 minutes *walking*
> distance of Kroger, Walgreen's, Hollywood, Blockbuster, two gay
> bookstore, eight bars, 20 restaurants, and my gym. I pay about 1/3rd
> less rent than I'd pay for a comparable place in a comparable
> neighborhood in Atlanta.
Welcome to Houston, Richard.
--
Truly Beautiful HTML
http://www.watchingyou.com
Professor Vonroach
<mleonard@@houston.rr.com> wrote:
>Scary thought raising a lifestyle to a race or gender status. Now we will
>have to raise the following groups as well. Swingers, S&M, B/D, Animal
>lovers, Animal haters, Blondes, Brunnettes, Redheads, and anyone else who
>has a separate agenda. I would have included drug addicts but the goverment
>already has programs set aside, believe it's called Social Security, for
>dealing with this disease.
>
>Mike L
>
Yes, that's true. Also car salesmen, computer nerds, and graduate
psychology students.
Professor Vonroach
>Sexual orientation is not a lifestyle choice. It is a fundamental part
>of human development, like eye-color or handedness. The only ones who
>say otherwise are straight people who suffer from the "I'm a fish so
>everyone must have gills" fallacy.
>
>rpj
Any day now the homosexual agenda crowd can be expected to identify
the exact gene responsible for the gullible and the homosexual
faithful.
Professor Vonroach
wrote:
snipped a few extraneous remarks. Greetings Pat, always nice to
Professor Vonroach
wrote:
snipped nonsense. Patty - you and the Rice gang still at the old
haunts on Montrose?
Professor Vonroach
>
>
>rich...@library.tmc.edu wrote:
>>
>> I moved to Houston in June and thus far the place I'm living (a 2
>> story, 2 bedroom townhouse) and the neighborhood in which I live
>> (Montrose) are the things I like best about this city. I'm only 2 1/2
>> miles from work (10 minutes, no freeways) and I'm 10 minutes *walking*
>> distance of Kroger, Walgreen's, Hollywood, Blockbuster, two gay
>> bookstore, eight bars, 20 restaurants, and my gym. I pay about 1/3rd
>> less rent than I'd pay for a comparable place in a comparable
>> neighborhood in Atlanta.
>
>And about 1/4 to 1/5 what you'd pay in the Village of NYC. When I lived
>in NYC I was paying $650 for a two room rathole that was a 45 minute
>subway ride from work and a 30 minute subway ride from the museums.
>Here in Houston I'm paying $540 for a good sized one bedroom with a walk
>in closet. I can walk to work/school at Rice AND to the museums.
>
>Really I should mention, as 'alternative' neighborhoods go, Montrose
>seems pretty tame to me. Perhaps it's just because of some similar
>neighborhoods I've seen in other cities. Ever been to the Red Light
>District in Amsterdam? 8th street or 42nd street 10 years ago in NYC?
>
>--
>
>Adam Weiss
>w...@whazo.com
>
Interesting info Adam. Tell us more about your lifestyle and knowledge
of perverted neighborhoods that you have visited or lived in.
And do you find the Rice campus also `pretty tame' for an alternative
campus?
Professor Vonroach
>I moved to Houston in June and thus far the place I'm living (a 2
>story, 2 bedroom townhouse) and the neighborhood in which I live
>(Montrose) are the things I like best about this city. I'm only 2 1/2
>miles from work (10 minutes, no freeways) and I'm 10 minutes *walking*
>distance of Kroger, Walgreen's, Hollywood, Blockbuster, two gay
>bookstore, eight bars, 20 restaurants, and my gym. I pay about 1/3rd
>less rent than I'd pay for a comparable place in a comparable
>neighborhood in Atlanta.
>
>rpj
Rpj - `gay bookstores' ? You mean bookstores that sell books on
homosexuality? Most bookstores do in their `self help' or homosexual
issues section including volumes written about the phony AIDS/HIV
hysteria.
crabluv
Professor Vonroach wrote in message
>1. Mankind is not `affected' (did you mean afflicted or effected?) by
>AIDS.
Of course mankind is affected by AIDS. I could go on and on with the facts
as to why, but I'm not going to waste other readers time with the facts that
would prove you wrong. A least not when the reply post would consist of
constant ramblings of how I have the facts incorrectly stated because you
just couldn't possibly be wrong. How ever, If we (mankind) were not affected
by AIDS, then we would not be involved in discussions that were about AIDS.
Looks like you really showed your ass Professor.
Professor Vonroach
wrote:
No, you've been duped kid. But you do want to look out for all kinds
of crabs, crabluv, they are a bit of an affliction many claim, but
I've never looked into that claim as I have the phony AIDS/HIV claims.
Besides the government probably wouldn't want to throw money at crabs.
They hate practical things.
Professor Vonroach
wrote:
>"Mike Leonard" <mleonard@@houston.rr.com> writes:
Sprain a neuron, it can't be done old bean, it's an injury to muscles,
ligaments, and joints.
No knowing you were one of the Rice nerds, I assumed you meant
matriculate (I realize the difference is slight at Rice).
Patrick L. Humphrey
>On 05 Jan 2000 20:47:43 -0600, pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey)
>wrote:
>>"Mike Leonard" <mleonard@@houston.rr.com> writes:
>>>Could have been an online study course. I think the dean, Sally Struthers,
>>>offered a special on his docturate studies.
>>I think in Charles' case, it was micturate studies...
>>
>>--PLH, watch him sprain a neuron or two sussing that one
>Sprain a neuron, it can't be done old bean, it's an injury to muscles,
>ligaments, and joints.
No kidding...but if anyone could sprain a neuron, Charles, you'd be among the
first to accomplish it.
>No knowing you were one of the Rice nerds, I assumed you meant
>matriculate (I realize the difference is slight at Rice).
No, I'm one of the Rice staff -- and matriculation is what happens at Rice the
week before the start of classes in the fall semester. Micturition is what
happens a lot more often in that neighborhood you're obsessed with.
--PLH, Charles evidently needs an umbrella
rich...@library.tmc.edu
wrote:
>rich...@library.tmc.edu wrote:
>>
>> I moved to Houston in June and thus far the place I'm living (a 2
>> story, 2 bedroom townhouse) and the neighborhood in which I live
>> (Montrose) are the things I like best about this city. I'm only 2 1/2
>> miles from work (10 minutes, no freeways) and I'm 10 minutes *walking*
>> distance of Kroger, Walgreen's, Hollywood, Blockbuster, two gay
>> bookstore, eight bars, 20 restaurants, and my gym. I pay about 1/3rd
>> less rent than I'd pay for a comparable place in a comparable
>> neighborhood in Atlanta.
>
>Welcome to Houston, Richard.
Thanks. On the whole, we're liking it. Houston people are great.
rpj
Patrick L. Humphrey
>>rich...@library.tmc.edu wrote:
>>Welcome to Houston, Richard.
Thanks, from one of those Houston people who's been here for years...and sorry
about the early winter this year (that little freeze Tuesday night) -- it
normally doesn't happen until January 30 or so, though it also lasts a couple
of days. (Maybe there *is* something to this global warming.)
--PLH, the three seasons in Houston: summer, July, and August
Mike Leonard
"Patrick L. Humphrey" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkzouj...@eris.io.com...
LOL Professor covered that in another post but I had to laugh anyway.
Seems the studies continues.
>
> --PLH, Charles evidently needs an umbrella
And rubber boots.
Mike L
Mike Leonard
Mike L
"Patrick L. Humphrey" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkwvpn...@eris.io.com...
> rich...@library.tmc.edu writes:
>
> >On 05 Jan 2000 23:52:39 EST, Lou MinattiT <loumi...@yahoo.com>
Lou Minatti™
>
> On 05 Jan 2000 23:52:39 EST, Lou Minatti™ <loumi...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >rich...@library.tmc.edu wrote:
> >>
> >> I moved to Houston in June and thus far the place I'm living (a 2
> >> story, 2 bedroom townhouse) and the neighborhood in which I live
> >> (Montrose) are the things I like best about this city. I'm only 2 1/2
> >> miles from work (10 minutes, no freeways) and I'm 10 minutes *walking*
> >> distance of Kroger, Walgreen's, Hollywood, Blockbuster, two gay
> >> bookstore, eight bars, 20 restaurants, and my gym. I pay about 1/3rd
> >> less rent than I'd pay for a comparable place in a comparable
> >> neighborhood in Atlanta.
> >
> >Welcome to Houston, Richard.
>
> Thanks. On the whole, we're liking it. Houston people are great.
I think so too. Don't judge the city by a few brain-dead cretins on
Usenet. On the whole, we're pretty respectful of the way people want to
lead their lives.
Lou Minatti™
>
> rich...@library.tmc.edu writes:
>
> >On 05 Jan 2000 23:52:39 EST, Lou Minatti™ <loumi...@yahoo.com>
> >wrote:
>
> >>rich...@library.tmc.edu wrote:
>
> >>> I moved to Houston in June and thus far the place I'm living (a 2
> >>> story, 2 bedroom townhouse) and the neighborhood in which I live
> >>> (Montrose) are the things I like best about this city. I'm only 2 1/2
> >>> miles from work (10 minutes, no freeways) and I'm 10 minutes *walking*
> >>> distance of Kroger, Walgreen's, Hollywood, Blockbuster, two gay
> >>> bookstore, eight bars, 20 restaurants, and my gym. I pay about 1/3rd
> >>> less rent than I'd pay for a comparable place in a comparable
> >>> neighborhood in Atlanta.
>
> >>Welcome to Houston, Richard.
>
> >Thanks. On the whole, we're liking it. Houston people are great.
>
> about the early winter this year (that little freeze Tuesday night) -- it
> normally doesn't happen until January 30 or so, though it also lasts a couple
> of days. (Maybe there *is* something to this global warming.)
It got down to 24 here at stately Katy Manor. It knocked back my
hibiscus shrubs pretty bad, but the bottom sections look like they're
OK. Damn, after three years they were getting pretty big, too.
Max Tindell
> Thanks, from one of those Houston people who's been here for years...and sorry
> about the early winter this year (that little freeze Tuesday night) -- it
> normally doesn't happen until January 30 or so, though it also lasts a couple
> of days. (Maybe there *is* something to this global warming.)
The average first freeze date is December 14; the average last freeze
date is February 10. Courtesy of the Houston Garden Club.
>
> --PLH, the three seasons in Houston: summer, July, and August
You got that part right.
Max
Patrick L. Humphrey
>"Patrick L. Humphrey" wrote:
>>Thanks, from one of those Houston people who's been here for years...and
>>sorry about the early winter this year (that little freeze Tuesday night) --
>>it normally doesn't happen until January 30 or so, though it also lasts a
>>couple of days. (Maybe there *is* something to this global warming.)
>The average first freeze date is December 14; the average last freeze
>date is February 10. Courtesy of the Houston Garden Club.
Thanks -- of course, anyone who's been here long enough will conclude that our
weather is anything _but_ average.
>> --PLH, the three seasons in Houston: summer, July, and August
>You got that part right.
So where do I get my t-shirt for having survived 35 Augusts? :-)
--PLH, soaked the last one to a fare-thee-well, I did
Professor Vonroach
wrote:
>"Patrick L. Humphrey" wrote:
>
>> Thanks, from one of those Houston people who's been here for years...and sorry
>> about the early winter this year (that little freeze Tuesday night) -- it
>> normally doesn't happen until January 30 or so, though it also lasts a couple
>> of days. (Maybe there *is* something to this global warming.)
>
>The average first freeze date is December 14; the average last freeze
>date is February 10. Courtesy of the Houston Garden Club.
>>
>> --PLH, the three seasons in Houston: summer, July, and August
>
>You got that part right.
>
>Max
A rule of thumb - watch pecan trees, when they bud it usually means
all danger of freezing weather is gone and spring is coming soon. The
other tree, unfortunately for them, are not nearly so good predictors.
Adam Weiss
> Interesting info Adam. Tell us more about your lifestyle and knowledge of perverted neighborhoods that you have > visited or lived in.
> And do you find the Rice campus also `pretty tame' for an alternative campus?
Funny. This didn't get through to PDQ's news servers; I found it when I
went onto Dejanews.
My lifestyle -- single, male, straight, architecture student (has to be
included, since it eats up so many evenings)
My experience of perverted neighborhoods -- 42nd Street in NYC -- had to
walk down it to get to the offices of the 42nd Street BID for work
(ferrying plans and models from our office to theirs) -- this was 2
years ago, and there were still a few holdout porno places.
8th street in NYC -- ocassionally walked down there from Union Square
(where I worked) on Fridays.
Amsterdam Holland -- vacationed there a few times when I was living in
Paris France. Frankly, went for the weed; not the porn.
Oh, and Montrose, but I should note that where I live, while techincally
Montrose, is within walking distance of the Museums and Rice and not
Montrose Center at Montrose and Westheimer.
As for Rice. A funny story. I was hanging out in front of the
architecture building wearing a T-shirt from the college I went to as an
undergrad; some girl with plaid pants and a blue streak in her hair
walked up to me and said "I know people who go there". Funny since most
of the people I see at Rice (even in the architecture school) seem
pretty normal.
Max Tindell
>
> Max Tindell <ma...@mail.hal-pc.org> writes:
> >The average first freeze date is December 14; the average last freeze
> >date is February 10. Courtesy of the Houston Garden Club.
>
> weather is anything _but_ average.
We are just about to begin our 16th year in Houston, and for the short
time I have been paying attention, it has been pretty consistent. One
reason the dates are easy for me to remember is one is our wedding
anniversary, and the other my birthday.
IIRC, our first winter here, '85-'86, there was no hard freeze. I also
remember the two consecutive Christmases when it was down around 10 f.
>
> >> --PLH, the three seasons in Houston: summer, July, and August
> So where do I get my t-shirt for having survived 35 Augusts? :-)
It gets worse as one gets older. Although here for only 15 summers, I
get extra points for being old and fat.
Max
Mike Leonard
"Max Tindell" <ma...@mail.hal-pc.org> wrote in message
news:38775393...@mail.hal-pc.org...
It got worse when air conditioning became affordable enough to be used at
home. Old and fat, which I can relate to, just means more memories of when
such luxuries did not exist. The days when a water cooler (tells my age)
could cool an entire house and was about as big as one.
Hot is hot but it does not take much of a temprature drop in Houston to
become cold. Especially at sundown. 40 degree temp swings from 4pm to 8pm
just sounds cold.
Mike L
>
> Max
Max Tindell
> The days when a water cooler (tells my age)
> could cool an entire house and was about as big as one.
I remember soaking under one of those "swamp coolers" during Oklahoma
summers. However, they are pretty effective in New Mexico.
Max
Max Tindell
> As for Rice <SNIP> most
> of the people I see at Rice (even in the architecture school) seem
> pretty normal.
Adam, I have been told that when you matriculated at Rice the school
required you to sign an agreement to never publicly claim to be a
student there.
Max
Patrick L. Humphrey
>"Patrick L. Humphrey" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
>news:szkzouj...@eris.io.com...
>> vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com (Professor Vonroach) writes:
>> >On 05 Jan 2000 20:47:43 -0600, pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey)
>> >wrote:
>> >>"Mike Leonard" <mleonard@@houston.rr.com> writes:
>> >>>Could have been an online study course. I think the dean, Sally
>> >>>Struthers, offered a special on his docturate studies.
>> >>I think in Charles' case, it was micturate studies...
>> >>
>> >>--PLH, watch him sprain a neuron or two sussing that one
>>>Sprain a neuron, it can't be done old bean, it's an injury to muscles,
>>>ligaments, and joints.
>>No kidding...but if anyone could sprain a neuron, Charles, you'd be among the
>>first to accomplish it.
>> >No knowing you were one of the Rice nerds, I assumed you meant
>> >matriculate (I realize the difference is slight at Rice).
>>No, I'm one of the Rice staff - and matriculation is what happens at Rice the
>>week before the start of classes in the fall semester. Micturition is what
>>happens a lot more often in that neighborhood you're obsessed with.
>LOL Professor covered that in another post but I had to laugh anyway.
>Seems the studies continues.
With the Prof, on this issue, it's a never-ending Moebius loop, indeed...
--PLH, content to remain at least two-dimensional in this newsgroup
Patrick L. Humphrey
>"Patrick L. Humphrey" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
>news:szkwvpn...@eris.io.com...
>> rich...@library.tmc.edu writes:
>>>On 05 Jan 2000 23:52:39 EST, Lou MinattiT <loumi...@yahoo.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>>rich...@library.tmc.edu wrote:
>>>>> I moved to Houston in June and thus far the place I'm living (a 2
>>>>> story, 2 bedroom townhouse) and the neighborhood in which I live
>>>>> (Montrose) are the things I like best about this city. I'm only 2 1/2
>>>>> miles from work (10 minutes, no freeways) and I'm 10 minutes *walking*
>>>>> distance of Kroger, Walgreen's, Hollywood, Blockbuster, two gay
>>>>> bookstore, eight bars, 20 restaurants, and my gym. I pay about 1/3rd
>>>>> less rent than I'd pay for a comparable place in a comparable
>>>>> neighborhood in Atlanta.
>>>>Welcome to Houston, Richard.
>>>Thanks. On the whole, we're liking it. Houston people are great.
>>Thanks, from one of those Houston people who's been here for years...and
>>sorry about the early winter this year (that little freeze Tuesday night) --
>>it normally doesn't happen until January 30 or so, though it also lasts a
>>couple of days. (Maybe there *is* something to this global warming.)
>>
>> --PLH, the three seasons in Houston: summer, July, and August
>Don't forget those one days of Fall and Spring. Thanksgiving and Easter.
Not quite -- we're right now in a bit of fall (at least since Monday), which
is about on schedule. Winter may or may not arrive this year, but spring
should be no farther away than about February 15th -- or it could hold off
until mid-April, as it's been known to do some years.
One thing is sure: it's never boring.
--PLH, waiting fifteen minutes to see if the weather will change into
something better
Patrick L. Humphrey
>Patrick L. Humphrey wrote:
>> rich...@library.tmc.edu writes:
>> >On 05 Jan 2000 23:52:39 EST, Lou Minatti™ <loumi...@yahoo.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >>rich...@library.tmc.edu wrote:
>> >>> I moved to Houston in June and thus far the place I'm living (a 2
>> >>> story, 2 bedroom townhouse) and the neighborhood in which I live
>> >>> (Montrose) are the things I like best about this city. I'm only 2 1/2
>> >>> miles from work (10 minutes, no freeways) and I'm 10 minutes *walking*
>> >>> distance of Kroger, Walgreen's, Hollywood, Blockbuster, two gay
>> >>> bookstore, eight bars, 20 restaurants, and my gym. I pay about 1/3rd
>> >>> less rent than I'd pay for a comparable place in a comparable
>> >>> neighborhood in Atlanta.
>> >>Welcome to Houston, Richard.
>> >Thanks. On the whole, we're liking it. Houston people are great.
>>Thanks, from one of those Houston people who's been here for years...and
>>sorry about the early winter this year (that little freeze Tuesday night) --
>>it normally doesn't happen until January 30 or so, though it also lasts a
>>couple of days. (Maybe there *is* something to this global warming.)
>It got down to 24 here at stately Katy Manor. It knocked back my
>hibiscus shrubs pretty bad, but the bottom sections look like they're
>OK. Damn, after three years they were getting pretty big, too.
At least you didn't have automatic lawn sprinklers going, like we did down
here on the back side of Sharpstown...had it been a couple of degrees colder,
we'd have had the makings of a pretty good ice rink. (Of course it got down
to 24 out where you are -- you're something like fifty feet higher than we are
down here along the flood plain. :-)
--PLH, occasional visitor to the mountains
Patrick L. Humphrey
>"Patrick L. Humphrey" wrote:
>> Max Tindell <ma...@mail.hal-pc.org> writes:
>> >The average first freeze date is December 14; the average last freeze
>> >date is February 10. Courtesy of the Houston Garden Club.
>>Thanks -- of course, anyone who's been here long enough will conclude that
>>our weather is anything _but_ average.
>We are just about to begin our 16th year in Houston, and for the short
>time I have been paying attention, it has been pretty consistent. One
>reason the dates are easy for me to remember is one is our wedding
>anniversary, and the other my birthday.
Over time, the averages stay fairly constant, but there can be a lot of
variation, some years -- like 1986, where the warm weather stayed around
to the last day, and then 1987 dawned cold.
>IIRC, our first winter here, '85-'86, there was no hard freeze. I also
>remember the two consecutive Christmases when it was down around 10 f.
Would those have been in 1989 and 1990? Those were the two coldest ones I can
remember...which sort of evens out with the holiday in either 1967 or 1968,
where the mercury hit 86 on Christmas Day.
>> >> --PLH, the three seasons in Houston: summer, July, and August
>> So where do I get my t-shirt for having survived 35 Augusts? :-)
>It gets worse as one gets older. Although here for only 15 summers, I
>get extra points for being old and fat.
I get the ones for getting old, but what do I get for pedaling to work during
the summer? (Besides a tired back from lugging large amounts of Gatorade on
the daily commute, I mean...)
--PLH, still averaging something like 100 mpg in my mid-40s :)
Patrick L. Humphrey
>Adam Weiss wrote:
Uh oh...I never had to sign anything like that when I started working there.
;-)
--PLH, I guess that rules out the confession I was going to make
Adam Weiss
Max Tindell wrote:
>
> Adam Weiss wrote:
>
> > As for Rice <SNIP> most
> > of the people I see at Rice (even in the architecture school) seem
> > pretty normal.
>
> Adam, I have been told that when you matriculated at Rice the school
> required you to sign an agreement to never publicly claim to be a
> student there.
>
Never heard of that one. Seems pretty absurd to me.
Mike Leonard
"Max Tindell" <ma...@mail.hal-pc.org> wrote in message
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Mike Leonard
> "Mike Leonard" <mleonard@@houston.rr.com> writes:
>
> >"Patrick L. Humphrey" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
> >> vonr...@popd.ix.netcom.com (Professor Vonroach) writes:
>
> >> >On 05 Jan 2000 20:47:43 -0600, pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey)
> >> >wrote:
>
> >> >>"Mike Leonard" <mleonard@@houston.rr.com> writes:
>
> With the Prof, on this issue, it's a never-ending Moebius loop, indeed...
Depends (past contexts) may go a ways towards slowing the his need to get to
the end so quick. :-)
>
> --PLH, content to remain at least two-dimensional in this newsgroup
Mike L