Just For The Sake of Conjecture - Is B'nai Brith Civilly Liable for Nizkor Ken McVay's Defaming Private Citizens?
<Doc Tavish>
Nizkor's funding as declared: "Please make your donations payable to "The
League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor
Trust Fund" to the cheque's memo section." would this not make them
civilly liable for Nizkor's defamation of private citizens?
NOTE: All embedded links were active at the time they were originally
posted. This post is a compilation of other posts.
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Just For The Sake of Conjecture - Is B'nai Brith Civilly Liable for Nizkor
Ken McVay's Defaming Private Citizens?
Here is a brief history of B'nai Brith's daughter organization getting
sued and losing $10.5 million for defamation:
http://www.jewishsf.com/bk000512/usadlsuit.shtml
Jewish Bulletin News
<FAIR USE INTENDED -- NON-PROFIT>
Judge fines ADL $10.5 million in Colorado defamation suit
CHRIS LEPPEK
Intermountain Jewish News
DENVER -- A civil lawsuit that began with a neighbors' dispute over garden
plants and fighting dogs has ended in a judgment against the Denver-based
chapter of the Anti-Defamation League -- and what is believed to be the
largest defamation judgment ever awarded in a Colorado trial.
On April 28, a 12-member jury in U.S. District Court here sided with the
plaintiffs, William and Dorothy Quigley of Evergreen. The Quigleys had
sued the Mountain States chapter of the ADL and that chapter's director,
Saul Rosenthal.
The jury awarded the Quigleys damages, mostly punitive, of $10.5 million
-- a figure that astonished defendants and plaintiffs alike in the
drawn-out and complex case.
The jury found that several public statements made in 1994 by Rosenthal on
behalf of the ADL defamed the Quigleys and resulted in actual and punitive
damages....
<end>
http://www.jewishaz.com/jewishnews/000519/row.shtml
<FAIR USE INTENDED -- NON-PROFIT>
May 19, 2000/14 Iyar 5760, Vol. 52, No.37
Defamation row
Hefty verdict sends message of responsibility
J.J. GOLDBERG
Special to Jewish News
Anti-Defamation League director Abe Foxman likes to tell stories about
people he meets while traveling. They ask him what he does. He says he
runs an agency that defends Jews. Their response, typically, is
astonishment: "Really? Jews need defending?"
Foxman's point is that Jews are losing their underdog image as they win
increasing acceptance in America.
This is one of those good news-bad news messages, particularly for the
folks charged with wielding the machinery of Jewish power. It's easier
than ever to throw your weight around, but harder to elicit sympathy.
That lesson came back to bite Foxman with a vengeance last month, when a
federal jury in Denver delivered an unprecedented $10.5 million verdict
against the Anti-Defamation League for, of all things, defamation.
The jury found that ADL's Mountain States chapter had defamed a non-Jewish
couple, William and Dorothy Quigley, by unjustly accusing them of
anti-Semitism.
[...]
Altogether, the jury levied $1.5 million in compensatory damages against
the ADL - $1 million for William Quigley's suffering, $500,000 for
Dorothy's - plus a whopping $9 million in punitive damages, to teach the
league a lesson.
<end>
Now that we established a successful lawsuit has been accomplished against
ADL we need to note who ADL is and how its mother organization "finances"
smearing and defaming private citizens:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=1&seld=909115488&ic=1
"UPDATED- The Constant Nastiness and Uncivil Attitudes of the Snobbish
Opposition"
EXCERPT
The following remarks etc. were addressed to Nizkor's director Ken McVay:
(Note Nizkor is funded through B'nai Brith)
Also BTW I have figured out the relationship, the bond, and the purpose
you serve B'nai Brith! B'nai Brith and its ADL defame and smear other
organizations and groups and they exclusively (almost) leave the little
guys or individuals alone BUT you being their trained and aggressive
attack dog do their bidding and dirty work against the little guys or
individuals. Just as ADL keeps files on groups and organizations you keep
files on the little guys or individuals. I see it most clearly now. You
use "Holocaust History" as a front for your smear and defamation
operation. I also love how you deny your links to your masters the Jews
too!
LOOK!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=1&seld=909771345&ic=1
Ken McVay wrote:
>(And, since the thread is about "Nizkor promotes harassment," what gave
>you the idea that Nizkor was "Jewish"?)
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Nizkor=&rnum=4&seld=944251349&ic=1&filter=0
Well you have said such things as this in the past (care to deny it?):
"While Congregation Emanu-el will still accept donations for their Nizkor
Fund, they are no longer acting as Nizkor's primary funding agency.."
WHO HAVE BEEN AND STILL ARE YOUR "FUNDING AGENCIES"? Jews of course!
Look at all the Jewishness Nizkor has been associated with and still
associated with! Here is the lineage of your money launderers and
associations:
Ken McVay's words folks!
> To send your donation (and receive your Canadian tax receipt
>more quickly) send it to:
>
> Congregation Emmanu-El / Nizkor Project
> 1461 Blanshard St.
> Victoria, BC
> V8W 2J3
Donations for the Project's efforts may be made payable to
The Zikaron Society / Nizkor Project
Please mail your cheque to
The Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society
6540 East Hastings Street, Suite 221
Burnaby, BC V5B 4Z5
Canadian income tax receipts will be issued.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Doc Tavish asks- Who is affiliated with the above organization?
Jews of course and here is my proof:
http://www.lionsgate.org/league_text.htm
"In the Spring of 1998, the former Holocaust-Education and Anti-Defamation
Committee of Lion's Gate Vancouver Lodge No. 668 joined with a committee
of the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society to create the Pacific
Region Cabinet of the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. In
addition, this Regional Cabinet maintains close working relations with the
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith International."
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
While Congregation Emanu-el will still accept donations for
their Nizkor Fund, they are no longer acting as Nizkor's
primary funding agency. They were, as long noted on Nizkor's
funding page (http;//www.nizkor.org/funding.html), lending a
temporary hand.
Now let us come to the present time of January 3, 2001 and see who is
money changing for Nizkor:
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
The Nizkor Project
c/o
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
Name:________________________________________
Street Address:________________________________________________
City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
E-Mail Address:_________________________________
Amount Enclosed: $___________
Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's
memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to
build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft
with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human
Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)
Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]
FAIR USE INTENDED -- <Title 17 U.S.C. section 107>
MORE PROOF ON WHO FUNDS NIZKOR:
http://www.fpp.co.uk/Letters/History/McVay010398.html
THAT THERE is a sleazy financial connection between the otherwise laudable
efforts of The Nizkor Project and the less laudable efforts of the League
of Human Rights of the B'nai Brith Canada
<http://www.fpp.co.uk/BoD/BnaiIndex.html> is clear from the fund-raising
form posted by Webmaster Kenneth McVay on the Nizkor Website ("The Nizkor
Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation with the League
of Human Rights of the B'nai Brith Canada"). Payments made to the League
are endorsed "Nizkor Trust Fund."
David Irving wrote to McVay:
I HAVE made a few inquiries, and would it be right to state as follows:
NIZKOR "maintains a base address at No. 462 - 1150 North Terminal Avenue,
Nanaimo, British Columbia, on the Pacific coast of Canada. The funding
details on the actual site make plain that it is partially funded by the
ADL, the Anti-Defamation League of the B'nai Brith, which has headquarters
in New York and Washington. The Webmaster of the site is Kenneth M McVay,
whose telephone number is given as 416 - 966 0461, a Toronto telephone
number in eastern Canada. The domain servers are listed as ns.vex.net and
ns2.reptiles.org. The name server, ns.vex.net is a corporation
administered by (and financially accountable to) a Mr Golan Klinger who
operates out of No. 263 Adelaide Street West, Suite 400, Toronto, Ontario.
Kenneth McVay writing from somewhere in Canada, March 1, 1998, responded:
No, it would not. You don't seem to get it through your head that the ADL
does not - repeat - does not - provide funding for Nizkor. Nor, as I have
already pointed out, does the League for Human Rights. The League accepts
donations on Nizkor's behalf, but does not either make donations to Nizkor
or myself. I am always amused to note how "revisionist scholars" seem
obsessed with Jews and Jewish organizations. . . Interesting, don't you
think?
David Irving replies: I am anxious to get things right, as always.
Kenneth McVay responded: Given your track record, that's in dispute.
<END>
Read Jamie McCarthy implying David Irving is paranoid for suggesting the
ADL partially funds Nizhor! Hey Jamie isn't ADL an offspring of B'nai
B'rith and isn't B'nai B'rith Nizkor's current money changer?
http://www.holocaust-history.org/pamphlets/irving/adl.shtml
"David Irving and the ADL by Jamie McCarthy
The Holocaust-denier David Irving slings around the ADL like a cook
peppering a stew. When he warns of the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai
Brith being involved with someone, or being behind something, he is
generally not to be taken too seriously.... There are many cases where
Irving jumps to conclusions about this one organization ("I suspect the
hand of the ADL" etc.) but these three are examples which I have personal
knowledge of, and know to be utterly without merit. It is hoped that when
the reader of Mr. Irving's website encounters this sort of paranoid
accusation, his pepper will be taken with a grain of salt."
FUNNY HOW ALL THESE LITTLE COCKROACH VERMIN START IMPLYING MENTAL ILLNESS
ON THE PART OF THOSE WHO EXPOSE THEM TO DAYLIGHT! Doc Tavish comment
BTW Jamie-- ADL and B'nai B'rith are almost synonymous.
http://www.adl.org/adlhistory/1913_1920.html
"...the Anti-Defamation League was established in 1913 by a lawyer and
fearless visionary by the name of Sigmund Livingston. Starting with only
two desks in Livingston's Chicago office, $200 and the sponsorship of the
Independent Order of B'nai B'rith.." From:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=ADL=&rnum=1&seld=943690259&ic=1
"Here Is What Nizkor's PUPPETMASTER ADL Does With Info.."
The Canadian Jewish News:
http://www.cjnews.com/pastissues/oct21-99/front3.htm
"The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada administers the Nizkor
Fund, through which donations to support the Web site can be channeled."
Institute for Jewish Policy Research
http://www.axt.org.uk/antisem/countries/canada/canada.htm
"Donations to the Nizkor Fund can be made via its administrator, the
League for Human Rights of BBC."
As we all know the League for Human Rights is B'nai B'rith as shown by Ken
McVay's own link as well: <http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html>
"The Nizkor Project c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada"
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Proof Ken McVay's Nizkor keeps files on private citizens:
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/
Some examples Nizkor defames private citizens:
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//g/grosvenor.william
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//g/giwer.matt
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//b/bradbury.scott
Sample of Ken McVay's (funded through B'nai Brith) defamations:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=1&seld=909770571&ic=1
On 14 Jun 2000 04:48:42 GMT, kmc...@vex.net (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <0af6a0a0...@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com>,
>BIRKENAU <michael87...@webtv.net.invalid> wrote:
>>Why interesting? Brought to you courtesy of Mr.
>>Winkler.
>Nope. Only one idiot that adds Winkler's name to his "anonymous" posts, and
>that's William Grosvenor.... it's most likely one of his bits of vomit - he
>is a well known hatemonger and documented liar. See
>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william
Let us use the example link Ken McVay gave above:
<http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william>
File Name Size Date
about-grosvenor 26.6K Feb 21 1999
background-grosvenor 18.3K Jun 04 1996
background-gruber 4.6K Nov 27 1997
gruber-10q 13.7K Apr 24 2000
gruber-10q.pl 13.0K Jan 01 1999
[...]
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Question for Hilary Ostrov
Date: 5 Jan 2001 19:07:34 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <93561m$dbm$1...@news.tht.net>
On 5 Jan 2001 19:07:34 GMT, kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
wrote:
>In article <3A56274...@pop.mindspring.com>,
>Buck Turgidson <deppi...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>"Jeff F. Davis" wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>>> I am not sure but the B'nai Brith (which controls Nizkor by the way
>>> rather Ken admits this or not) is so powerful in Canada they had the
>>> nerve in a Canadian court that they should be able to illegally harass
>>> people because of the nature of the holocaust and all the good they have
>>> done to fight racism.
>>Looks like Li'l Tommy doesn't bogart HIS joints!
I'd have guessed Mid-Hootch Giwerundean, actually. We used to see a
lot more of it here, but I gather the Sterno shortage of '98 led to a
steep decline.
Of course, Donnie could simply have been sniffing gasoline.
<end>
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Just In to the Tavish Hotline!...
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:37:02 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9a2u9u$19dg$1...@news.tht.net>
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:37:02 +0000 (UTC), <9a2u9u$19dg$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
[...]
>I understand that Bradbury may need money to buy an old trailer after
>his house is turned into a Jewish daycare center....
>
>I guess there's no way it'll ever be kosher, tho, what with all that
>lard...
>
>--
>"...I note that on the few occasions of which I am aware where purveyors of
>anti-Semitic propaganda have endeavoured to justify their materials in
>court on the facts and the merits, they have been singularly unsuccessful..."
> (http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/hweb/people/s/scully-olga/reason.html)
Anyone perusing: http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search
and using Nizkor Ken McVay's e-mail address
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org entered into GOOGLE'S
"Author Return only messages where the author is:" search now and using
key words such as Sterno Giwerundean Ignoramus etc. can see how Canadian
tax payers have subsidized for years a "website" which engages in petty
attacks against private citizens.
More examples:
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,can.general,tor.general,on.general
Subject: Re: ATTENTION NIZKOR: Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit
Organization (NPO) Information Return Form T1044
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <99oro0$259r$1...@news.tht.net>
References: <eghvbtgm6r3tsa0ef...@4ax.com>
<3abfe742$0$1...@news.impulse.net>
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC), kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org
(Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>Poor Mr. Bradbury... if he had a brain, he would be dangerous.
>
>Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website.
<end>
I asked why should a "website" be awarding tax receipts and I get
personally attacked!
More examples of either keeping files on private citizens and/or defaming
them:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=1&seld=911008830&ic=1
From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: Neya Kulturny proltariat
Date: 2001-03-23 07:57:07 PST
Followups to Giwer trolls should be redirected to Mr. Giwer's special
newsgroup, alt.bonehead.matt-giwer, where they will be appropriately
ignored (the group has no users - it's just a convenient toilet for
Matt's vomitus). If your site does not carry alt.bonehead.matt-giwer,
redirect non-Holocaust articles to alt.politics.white-power,
an equally vapid dumping ground for Giwerundian babblings.
<end>
Same defamation and the same invitation to FLOOD other news groups can be
seen at these links too!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=2&seld=911187938&ic=1
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=3&seld=914643309&ic=1
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=4&seld=915710792&ic=1
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=5&seld=916119887&ic=1
From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Matt Giwer: disgusting troll
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast, soc.culture.british,
soc.culture.canada, soc.culture.usa
Date: 2001-03-09 10:18:49 PST
In article <98b6av$3pt$1...@neptunium.btinternet.com>,
William Black <black_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Roger Alexander <rlalex...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>news:3AA82DCD...@bellsouth.net...
>> Mr. McVay is spamming the NG. He repeats this defamation of the poster
>> time after time after time, and since he has it on a file, it takes him
>> not time at all to put it forth. He is to be castigated for doing it,
>> and if it continues I will take it up with his ISP.
>But the shit Giwer needs persecuting, the truth is no defamation.
Mr. Giwer isn't being persecuted, he's being exposed. He is, without
question, a troll of the worst sort, and, whether Mr. Alexander likes
it or not, I will continue to warn others.
<end>
Canadian taxpayers- do you wish to subsidize Ken McVay attacking and
defaming private citizens? You currently are subsidizing McVay whether you
all know it or not!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=13&seld=935054917&ic=1
From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: The wacky adventures of Matt Giwer
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic, soc.history.ancient, alt.revisionism
Date: 2001-01-24 09:47:43 PST
In article <Orac-EFD9B7.1...@spamkiller.sucknews.com>,
Orac <Or...@mac.com> wrote:
>Matty is lying, of course.
Of course. That's what Mr. Giwer does. (With any luck at all, we may
be entertained with Full-Hootch Giwerundean during this thread, if the
Sterno holds out.)
<end>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=20&seld=978476551&ic=1
From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: Matt Giwer -- troll and drunkard
Newsgroups: soc.history.ancient, alt.history.ancient-worlds, talk.origins,
alt.revisionism
Date: 2000-10-11 08:40:15 PST
In article <39E4723C...@earthlink.net>,
David Gehrig <zem...@earthlink.net> wrote:
[speaking to a troll]
>Now, now, Matty, you know that the man who runs the site isn't Jewish
>and doesn't belong to the Anti-Defamation League. Why lie?
Mr. Giwer is, as far as I can determine, a troller whose only
interest is in causing fights. While he can sound superficially
plausible, he has lied** about what has been said in exchanges (while
accusing others of lying), refused to document claims..
<end>
The truth is Matt Giwer did not lie. Ken McVay's Nizkor is financed by
"exempt donations" funneled through B'nai Brith the mother organization of
ADL as shown higher up in this post.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=sterno=&rnum=2&seld=979137702&ic=1
From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: Gourd McFee
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 2000-10-09 19:03:24 PST
In article <catamont-EB657B...@news.concentric.net>,
Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
[...]
[Some drunk wrote]
[ What's more incredible is that this Susie thinks you have to count
whatever Gourd types have spent time at when all you have to do is
type in its name and there the number is. We can do the same thing
with "Susie" and get thousands and they would all be just like what
he/she/it has put out here. ]
[an understandably perplexed human with a working mind asked...]
I know the words are English, but what language is this?!
>I believe it is Full-Hooch Giwerundian. Ask Ken McVay, I believe he
>studied it a few years ago.
I must agree... the cited text has every appearance of being a sample
of Full-Hootch Giwerundean. That is quite beyond dispute.
Whether this suggests that the Moron has further degenerated to the
Full Pits or has simply begun the endless Sterno Cycle is not known.
Additional samples will, as always, provide scientists with valuable
clues.
Perhaps the real question for research scientists is this: If a Moron
ingests several gallons of Sterno, would anyone notice?
<end>
Well Canadian taxpayers do you wish to subsidize a "website" and its
director in their campaign to call people drunks and drinkers of Sterno?
You're doing it!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=drunk=&rnum=2&seld=922213860&ic=1
From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: I can't believe this
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 2001-02-22 17:20:07 PST
But then, as the Tampa drunk would say, you knew that.
<end>
The above was in reference to Mr. Matt Giwer.
In light of the above I now add:
Seeing how Ken McVay's Nizkor accepts "exempt donation[s]" it would be
interesting to see why the Canadian Government actually approves an
organization with such tax status to operate under the conditions Ken
McVay's Nizkor does. To this very day Ken McVay will not answer these
questions:
1) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
2) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
3) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
4) Where can one find the organizational papers for Nizkor?
a) How many people compose the Nizkor staff?
b) What are the financial responsibilities of Nizkor?
5) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorized to
solicit tax free contributions?
6) How much money does Nizkor Org receive yearly as charitable donations?
7) You show below that you pay yourself-- what is your yearly pay?
Subject: Re: How much of a cut does the B'nai Brith get from Nizkor?
Date: 05/08/2000
Author: Kenneth McVay, OBC <kmc...@vex.net>
>f) Does Ken McVay pay himself a salary for his work for Nizkor?
Yup - I also appreciate revenue from public speaking and site advertising.
~~~~~~~End Archival Excerpt~~~~~~
8) Is Nizkor proper (it's office and main facilities) located in a back
room of your own residence as this says?
http://www.Xgeocities.com/dcjarviks/Idler/vIn15.htmlX
(Remove the X's to view the site, this is to help prevent McVay from
spamming the search engines. Link active March 24, 2001)
"A Voyage to Nanaimo-- It takes two hours to cross the Georgia Strait by
ferry from Vancouver, British Columbia, another half-hour by jitney from
the Nanaimo terminal to reach the home of Kenneth N. McVay, webmaster for
The Nizkor Project . The address is an ordinary suburban split-level in a
middle-class neighborhood. There is nothing distinctive about its
location. .... I am taken to a back room, filled with computer equipment,
monitors, and books... Seated in front of the array is McVay, apparently a
50-something computer nerd. He is tall, thin, with short hair and glasses,
wired to the world through his ISP. The Nizkor project which McVay runs
from this room in the back of his house... " <END>
A question for all reading this:
How many organizations which receive charitable contributions operate from
the backroom of the director's home? He claims to be non-profit and it
appears that he would have a low overhead-- so how much money does Ken
McVay receive for his backroom operation? Why won't Ken McVay make public
his budget?
9) What sort of legitimate organization keeps files on private citizens
and publicly defames people on its "hit list" as Nizkor does?
This link shows how he keeps files on private citizens:
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/
Here are some links to files in which Ken McVay through his Nizkor defames
private citizens:
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//g/grosvenor.william
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//g/giwer.matt
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//b/bradbury.scott
<<the above link has files concerning a lawsuit in which a final decision
has not been made and most if not all of the complaints have been proven
false and furthermore the plaintiff implicated himself as being a person
who made criminal incitements to murder which are currently in "que" to be
investigated. See these links:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=1&seld=914072558&ic=1
"John Morris Condones Criminal Acts By Mentally Disturbed Allentown
Attorney Yale F. Edeiken.."
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=1&seld=913445492&ic=1
"Canada's Very Own Nizkor's Lies, Smears, and Defamation Answered"
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=5&seld=921850669&ic=1
"Pathological Liar Tubby Edeiken's Perjured Fabricated Evidence"
To continually propagate information which has been proven false,
perjurious, and fabricated and by a person who incited murder against
the person he has litigated is most deplorable BUT this is what Ken
McVay's Nizkor does with "exempt donation[s]." An organization such as
Nizkor would not be able to operate in this manner in the United States
and perhaps this is why Ken McVay left the United States to operate from
Canada!>>
Time will tell. Those interested in finding out why Nizkor can operate in
this manner should contact: http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/contact/
Which is the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency.
Nizkor would not be allowed to operate in the manner it does in America
and perhaps this is why Ken McVay, director of Nizkor, diverts attention
from having an American money pot!
LOOK!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=San+Antonio=&rnum=1&seld=943818623&ic=1
From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 2001-01-04 16:32:12 PST
Mr. Bradbury, wishing to demonstrate how ill-equipped he is to deal with
evidence of any sort, offers the following information:
====================== Begin Bradbury Quote ========================
[...]
For those who are curious, here the details of
<http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?query=MAZAL.ORG>
the neutral people behind Mr Mazal:
His above website is registered by the
"San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" c/o BASIC of
600 Sandau Suite 400,
San Antonio, TX 78216, in Texas, USA.
The billing contact is Mr Harry Mazal of the same address:
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC,
600 Sandau, Suite 400, San Antonio, TX 78216,
and their phone number is 210-377-2422.
Somebody might like to check them out in more details. We will be
happy in the spirit of openness to post all that we are told of
these people. It is the old Nizkor gang at work again.
~~~~END~~~~
My reply to Ken McVay and other Nizkook heckles:
On 3 Jan 2001 21:01:01 GMT, kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
wrote:
>In article <szkofxo...@fnord.io.com>,
>Patrick L. Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>Jeff F. Davis <jeff_f...@my-deja.com> writes:
>>
>>>Start pulling up as many of Ken McVay's denials of having Nizkor
>>>operations in Texas from the archives. I would do it but I have to go to
>>>work now. Rev is digging them up also as we speak.
>>Of course, Donnie -- so you can spam them a few hundred times, or produce a
>>cut-and-paste forgery like you did last year with that newswire article you
>>ripped off from Reuters and massaged it to make it look like I'd been
>>arrested in a city I didn't visit until five months after the story's date.
>>Who do you think you're fooling this time?
>It should be interesting waiting for Donnie to produce evidence that
>any such "operation" exists. I figure I should be able to work through
>several million additional web pages while we wait.....
I just proved you to be a liar Ken McVay with the information posted
above! Notice the info is fairly current and is not outdated by any means!
Your organization is named! Care to deny it now liar?
>He seems to have a problem with his reading comprehension :-)
How does your reading comprehension interpret the info below? (snicker
snicker)
Whois: mazal.org
Server: -automatic-
Registrant:
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM)
600 Sandau Suite 400
San Antonio, TX 78216 US
====================== End Bradbury Quote ========================
What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate is that The Nizkor Project,
which I direct, has any association whatsoever with the "San Antonio Area
Foundation - Nizkor Fund."
That is because Mr. Bradbury is not very bright.
The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the
United States Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received
any money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
For further information, review the file which Mr. Ellis and Mr. Bradbury
continue to ignore:
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
I am compelled once again remind Mr. Ellis, and thus Mr. Bradbury, that
my challenge stands:
If you have any _evidence_ that The Nizkor Project has _any_ sort of
organization in the United States, produce it.
While waiting for Don Ellis (or anyone else in the Wading Pool) to
produce evidence that there exists some sort of "Nizkor Organization"
in San Antonio, Texas, I have archived 64 new files.
1,999,936 to go.
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp-whats-new.cgi
<<YAWN>>
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
See how McVay answers proven fact with name call and personal insult?
BTW everyone click this link and it will still show that there is still a
Nizkor Fund in San Antonio, Texas.
<http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?query=MAZAL.ORG>
I just clicked it and it said the same as what I posted above and it did
claim: "Database last updated on 26-Mar-2001 04:50:00 EST."
I guess Ken McVay will tell us that there are two Nizkors now!?
What can you expect from a liar and a defamer of men?
Canadian tax payers- you're subsidizing this sleazer!
Doc Tavish
---
"Why don't you filthy swine stop tormenting me with your libel? Now
even that 'ole "Nazi"-hunter, Ken McVay, is assaulting me with his
propagandized lies." -- Martin S. Singleton
Archived around: 8 Feb 1995 20:25:19 GMT
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steve wolk
"<Doc Tavish>" < doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO SPAM . > wrote in
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> Seeing how in fact B'nai Brith (in their own words) does administer
> Nizkor's funding as declared: "Please make your donations payable to "The
> League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor
> Trust Fund" to the cheque's memo section." would this not make them
> civilly liable for Nizkor's defamation of private citizens?
Well, Whalebury, why don't you get J. Algonquin Leach to file suit against
them on your behalf?
Steve
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Nizkor's funding as declared: "Please make your donations payable to "The
League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor
Trust Fund" to the cheque's memo section." would this not make them
civilly liable for Nizkor's defamation of private citizens?
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EXCERPT
LOOK!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=1&seld=909771345&ic=1
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http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's