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Dec 31, 2001, 9:43:44 AM12/31/01

Here is solid proof that Ken McVay has lied about one aspect of his funding (he
has lied about many aspects but this post deals with his San Antonio Foundation
funding primarily).

SPECIAL NOTE: All posts which show a MESSAGE ID may be retrieved and
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HERE IS KEN McVAY DENYING EVER RECEIVING ANY MONEY FROM THE SAN ANTONIO AREA
FOUNDATION:

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=9l2g72%2423od%2...@news.tht.net&num=20&hl=en
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: BabbleTubby's Bullshit
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9l2g72$23od$1...@news.tht.net>

In article <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:

[TubbyBlubber excised]

> As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no
> endowment fund nor a trust fund.

Incorrect. The San Antonio Area Foundation maintains an endowment fund
for any organization they support. Ten per cent of all monies donated
go directly into an endowment fund, so that, eventually, the fund
will fuel itself.

SAAF bylaws state that the first $10,000 donated must go into the
creation of an endowment fund maintained as a part of the trust.
That endowment fund, however, has absolutely nothing to do with the
Nizkor Project, nor has the Nizkor Project ever benefited from such a
fund.

It's entertaining watching BlubberBabble try to make sense of it all,
and it's worth noting that he hasn't contacted any of the people at
SAAF for further information, as I suggested. That suggests that, as
always, he doesn't give a rat's ass for the truth.

Duh.

~~End of Exact GOOGLE Archive~~

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=9334lf%241nlt%241%40news.tht.net
From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <9334lf$1nlt$1...@news.tht.net>
Date: 2001-01-04 16:32:12 PST
>
> The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
>States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
>from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
>
> [...]
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

Everyone remember the key statement made above and place special emphasis on the
part in which Nizkor's Ken McVay stated: "The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has
ever received any money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund""

Also Ken McVay has claimed through Ken Lewis:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=3b7f8413.62221344%40news.abccom.bc.ca
From: kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.taxes,can.general,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: So Nizkor didn't receive $50,000 ?? Major US newspaper says he did.
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:04:20 GMT
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3b7f8413...@news.abccom.bc.ca>

From: kmc...@vex.net (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The embezzlement question McVay refuses to answer
Date: 2 Jun 2000 01:04:24 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <8h716n$2t9h$1...@news.tht.net>

"Blakely" wrote in message
news:282e6175...@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com...
> What did you do with the $50,000 given to you to start a Nizkor
> operation in San Antonio? Since you claim you don't have a San
> Antonio operation, is it safe to say that you simply embezzled
> the money?

No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
Area Foundation. $40,000 was invested, at the direction of the donor,
in the purchase of two Sun computer systems. $10,000 was invested in
an endowment fund in accordance with the regulations set by the San
Antonio Area Foundation. The San Antonio Area Foundation has never
paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge.

~~End of Nizkor Archival Excerpt~~

HERE ARE THE PROOFS THAT KEN McVAY's NIZKOR DID RECEIVE FUNDS FROM THE SAN
ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND KEN ADMITTING, HIMSELF, HE RECEIVES AMERICAN FUNDING
THROUGH THE SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION:

From a GOOGLE Web Search I got:

www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
Text version:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:A4EjSpXxe8Q:www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf+NIZKOR+ENDOWMENT+FUND+ADDRESS+TELEPHONE&hl=en
This is the text version of the PDF file http://www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf.
G o o g l e automatically generates text versions of PDF documents as we crawl
the web.

Google is not affiliated with the authors of this page nor responsible for its
content. These search terms have been highlighted: nizkor endowment fund
address telephone

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
San Antonio Area Foundation

Annual Report 2000
Annual Report 2000

San Antonio Area Foundation
Growing to Give, Giving to Grow

[...]

Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
Nizkor Fund

[...]

S A N A N T O N I O A R E A F O U N DAT I O N
Post Office Box 120366 I San Antonio, Texas 78212
210-225-2243 I 210-225-1980 Fax
w w w. s a a f d n . o r g

~~End of San Antonio Foundation Report For 2000~~

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=9kvsat%248v5%2...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com&num=20&hl=en
From: "Blakely" <patbl...@mailandnews.com>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: So Nizkor didn't receive $50,000 ?? Major US newspaper says he did.
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:43:34 -0400
Message-ID: <9kvsat$8v5$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com>

I guess The San Antonio Express-Times lied also when they published this in
their paper eh Ken?

Just confess, you got the money.

1996-08-03
Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten

Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer

"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a solemn promise
Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet so that people
will never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now his task has gotten a
little easier with a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San Antonio Area
Foundation to the Nizkor Project, an international computer web site
directed by the 55-year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island,
Canada.The Nizkor project not only provides information on Hitler's bloody
pogroms but is also intended to counter the claims of "deniers" (as McVay
calls them)...

http://archives1.newsbank.com/ar-search/we/Archives?p_action=search&p_perpag
e=20&s_search_type=keyword&p_text_base=nizkor&p_field_psudo-sort-0=psudo-sor
t&p_sort=_rank_%3AD&p_field_Source-0=Source&p_field_date-0=YMD_date&p_params
_date-0=date%3AB%2CE&p_text_date-0=&p_field_YMD_date-0=YMD_date&p_field_YMD_
date-0=YMD_date&p_params_YMD_date-0=date%3AB%2CE&xcal_ranksort=4&xcal_usewei
ghts=yes&%5B+Search+%5D.x=47&%5B+Search+%5D.y=17

BTW I confirmed the article above at: http://archives1.newsbank.com/
Using their inner link of: http://archives.newsbank.com/saenews
and using that search engine with the keywords: NIZKOR $50,000
(using conditions Limit Search by Source Name: San Antonio Express-News
Limit Search by Date: all documents

I got:

"1996-08-03
Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten

Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer

"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a solemn promise
Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet so that people will
never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now his task has gotten a little
easier with a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation
to the Nizkor Project, an international computer web site directed by the
55-year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada...."

<<The article which Pat Blakely posted is 100% real and authentic! The CCRA just
may be interested in investigating if you owe back taxes and penalties for that
$50,000.00 you received and you continually denying that receiving any money or
funds from the San Antonio Area Foundation as I have shown you have doing above
in this very post! You are a liar McVay! PLAIN AND SIMPLE!>>

~~End of GOOGLE Archive and Comment~~

Compare what Nizkor's Ken McVay claimed in the above two extracts to what
follows!! Here is a review of what McVay previously stated in public as shown
above:

1) "The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the
United States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any
money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
2) "No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
Area Foundation. $40,000 was invested, at the direction of the donor,
in the purchase of two Sun computer systems. $10,000 was invested in
an endowment fund in accordance with the regulations set by the San
Antonio Area Foundation. The San Antonio Area Foundation has never
paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge."

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=9&selm=5n6ib9%24f3h%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <5n6ib9$f3h$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
Date: 1997/06/05

In article <5n400d$s...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (William "Ian
McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:

>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just

The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana)

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

Compare what Ken McVay said above to this public posting! Is this not catching
the director and sole operator , Ken McVay, of Nizkor in a lie!?

Back to McVay admitting he gets funding through the San Antonio Area Foundation:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=17&selm=5m1sqg%24rse%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: Nizkor under B'nai B'rith auspices?!
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <5m1sqg$rse$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
Date: 1997/05/22

In article <5m11au$4...@access1.digex.net>, mst...@access.digex.net wrote:

> As you could tell from the Nizkor web page, Nizkor's funding in Canada
>is now coordinated through the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society,
>an independent organization. In the United States, it is channeled
>through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area Foundation, which is a San
>Antonio umbrella organization something like the United Way.

Zikaron remains a supporter of the Nizkor Project, but Canadian
_national_ funding is now managed by the B'nai Brith Foundation, in
Toronto. B'nai Brith Foundation does not, however, support Nizkor
financially - it simply receives donations from the public, issues
receipts if the donations exceed $10, and disperses donated funds as
required.

In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San
Antonio Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization....

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

Looks like McVay has lied about his San Antonio money launderer!

How is the money funneled from San Antonio to your pockets Ken?

BTW the recent readout for <mazal.org> aka San Antonio Foundation shows:

http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi
Registrant:
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM)
600 Sandau Suite 400
San Antonio, TX 78216 US
Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
Mazal, Harry (HM1296) hma...@TXDIRECT.NET
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC
600 Sandau
Suite 400
San Antonio, TX 78216
210-377-2422
Record last updated on 15-Mar-2001.
Record expires on 28-Jun-2006.
Record created on 27-Jun-1997.
Database last updated on 6-Dec-2001 01:11:00 EST.
^^^^^^^^^^
<end>

All of the above shows Ken McVay caught lying about having a San Antonio
connection and B'nai Brith even verifies Nizkor's links to San Antonio, Texas
USA in this informative post I made. Quoted partially but click the link to read
it in its entirety because it exposes more Nizkor shenanigans financed with
"exempt donations."
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=3&selm=1cgurtsp3dmbr1i0ucsqk33u02laa4gi80%404ax.com
From: Doc Tavish (REMOVEdo...@my-deja.comREMOVE2MAIL-NO-SPAM)
Subject: MUST READ!! Nizkor's McVay Caught in a Lie...
Message-ID: <1cgurtsp3dmbr1i0u...@4ax.com>
Date: 2001-10-06 10:38:25 PST

><<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
>distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
>a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
>research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
>
>http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/jclinks/jincan-01.htm
>(Link Active July 13, 2001)
>
>B'NAI BRITH CANADA
>
>LINKS If you would like to add your organization or community service to this
>listing, or if you have suggestions for other links, please email the webmaster
>at b...@bnaibrith.ca.
>
>Jewish Indices | Selected Israel sites | Media Sites | Hate on the Internet |
>Palestinian and Islamic Sites | Anti-Hate Groups | Canadian Government
>
>Anti-Hate Groups:
>Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
>Canadian Race Relations Foundation / Fondation canadienne des relations raciales
>Fighting Hate - HTML
>HateWatch Inc.
>Simon Wiesenthal Center
>Anti-Racist Action
>Human Rights Internet (HRI)
>International Centre of Human Rights and Democratic Development
>
>Nizkor Home Page Toronto
>http://www.nizkor.org/
>
>Nizkor Home Page British Columbia
>http://www.almanac.bc.ca/
>
>Nizkor - Toronto (T1)
>http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/
>
>Nizkor - Toronto (128K)
>http://www1.ca.nizkor.org/
>
>Nizkor - San Antonio (128K)
>http://www1.us.nizkor.org/
>(Link active July 13, 2001)
>
>Holocaust Cybrary- Now at Nizkor!
>
>Nizkor Search Engine - San Antonio
>http://www1.us.nizkor.org/search.html
>
><end>
>
>Those US Nizkor Links work! Why does Ken McVay insist he has no U.S. operation?
>Why does he deny having a San Antonio, Texas operation when his money changer,
>B'nai Brith, shows so!? Is Ken McVay afraid that the American IRS will audit his
>Tax Scheme?

~~End of Partially Quoted GOOGLE Archive~~

It is now December 6, 2001 and I just checked the link above
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/jclinks/jincan-01.htm
and noticed B'nai Brith removed those San Antonio links! Looks like they are
trying to cover up for their sock puppet! Guess what? Those San Antonio links I
showed on July 13, 2001 still work! Everyone go verify them and take note of
this current dodge by Ken McVay's money launderer B'nai Brith!

Here is proof that Ken McVay's Nizkor is a one man operation from a back room of
his own residence!

http://www.geocities.com/dcjarviks/Idler/vIn15.html
(Link active for verification December 6, 2001)

"A Voyage to Nanaimo-- It takes two hours to cross the Georgia Strait by
ferry from Vancouver, British Columbia, another half-hour by jitney from
the Nanaimo terminal to reach the home of Kenneth N. McVay, webmaster for
The Nizkor Project . The address is an ordinary suburban split-level in a
middle-class neighborhood. There is nothing distinctive about its
location. .... I am taken to a back room, filled with computer equipment,
monitors, and books... Seated in front of the array is McVay, apparently a
50-something computer nerd. He is tall, thin, with short hair and glasses,
wired to the world through his ISP. The Nizkor project which McVay runs
from this room in the back of his house... " <END>

THE FACTS:
Nizkor is a web site solely run by Ken McVay from a back room of his own
residence as documented here:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=9ks5as%24r19%241%40news.tht.net
From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Blubberbury's Bullshit and Blather
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <9ks5as$r19$1...@news.tht.net>
References: <3b713eba....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
Date: 2001-08-08 12:53:05 PST

Ken Lewis writes:

> Ken has already proven otherwise.
>
> The quote you have pasted below was simply never implemented.
> Nizkor was then as it is now - a website. Ken hoped to turn it
> into an organization such as you insist it is but that never
> worked out. Within weeks of that post having been
> made the whole effort to tun it into an organization fell apart.

Indeed it did. Why anyone would post an article that was nearly
five years out of date as if it had relevance is beyond me, but
then, we're dealing with "revisionist scholars" here, so it isn't the
least surprising.

> Thus it remains what it always was. A website run soley by Ken.

Indeed.

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

As we see from the two above documents-- Ken McVay's NIZKOR is solely operated
by Ken McVay and Nizkor is a back room operation in McVay's own personal
residence. All financed by an elaborate tax scheme which feeds a bogus Endowment
which makes no grants and which will not reveal its address or its directors.
The apparent sole recipient to the Nizkor Endowment Fund has stated this about
who gets any money from it:

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=9phvad%241mj1%2...@news.tht.net&num=20&hl=en
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: suggestion on how to shut up loud lout paul kneisel
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 15:30:21 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9phvad$1mj1$1...@news.tht.net>
References: <GJ6Y2ZG73716...@frog.gilgamesh.org>
<3bbbe982...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
<lvqnrts8cne62rs88...@4ax.com>
<3bbcedb0...@news.abccom.bc.ca>

In article <3bbcedb0...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 04 Oct 2001 00:02:56 -0500, Doc Tavish
><REMOVEdo...@my-deja.comREMOVE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:

[...]

I, Doc Tavish, inquired:
>>BTW when are you going to tell all of us who has received GRANTS from Ken
>>McVay's Nizkor Endowment Fund? The CCRA will sooner or later be inquiring with
>>such questions! Care to beat them to the draw vermin? Watch the rodent scurry

Ken Lewis taunts:
>Betcha a $1000 CCRA will never come calling. Want to put your money
>where your mouth is?

(Ken McVay admits no one has benefited from the Nizkor Endowment Fund):
That'll be the day. The funny part of all of this is that no-one has
ever received a penny from the endowment fund...

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

To see that legitimate Endowment Funds make GRANTS and make known their
addresses etc. (unlike Ken McVay's Nizkor Endowment Fund) just click these links
to see how other endowment funds operate and I give examples of endowment funds
in Ken McVay's area of Canada too!

Here I answer two ignorant big mouths who support the "alleged" Nizkor Endowment
Fund:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=nohott08v12bl1bqclcnnv90rnlliob7rj%404ax.com
From: Back At You Fool <doc_t...@my-deja.comREMOVE2MAIL-NO-SPAM>
Subject: Re: More stupidity from "Sieg Heil" Scottie
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 12:20:51 -0600
Organization: McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
Message-ID: <nohott08v12bl1bqc...@4ax.com>

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=k6jott0go2vr0f8sjgabv42g7k48rbbiqe%404ax.com
From: Back At You Fool <doc_t...@my-deja.comREMOVE2MAIL-NO-SPAM>
Subject: Re: The Nizkor Endowment Fund- A SCAM? See How its Sole Recipient
Responds to Honest Questions! R_2.....
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 12:41:15 -0600
Message-ID: <k6jott0go2vr0f8sj...@4ax.com>

The above was a real slam dunk of a real big mouth named Patrick L. Humphrey and
it is a MUST READ!

The following are posts which compare Ken McVay's phoney and self serving Nizkor
Endowment Fund to honest and legitimate funds which actually go counter to
McVay's self confessed about the Nizkor Endowment Fund (shown above): "The funny
part of all of this is that no-one has ever received a penny from the endowment
fund."

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=5&selm=asq3st8mhu9neabk4fpd15g49te5aga5pn%404ax.com
From: _Doc Tavish_ <doc_t...@my-deja.comREMOVE2MAIL-NO-SPAM>
Newsgroups: alt.fraud
Subject: The Fraudulent Nizkor Endowment Fund and Why Haven't Ken Lewis and Ken
McVay Replied
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 13:08:20 -0500
Message-ID: <asq3st8mhu9neabk4...@4ax.com>

The above post is an absolute MUST READ! I nail McVay on each of his taunts and
it is fully documented in the manner you see in this very post!

The following post shows how Endowment Funds in Ken McVay's locale operate
(they actually make GRANTS!!!):

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=5&selm=0hk0tt4k5begohgsu84sr36itporlffftg%404ax.com
From: Doc Tavish? <doc_t...@my-deja.comREMOVE2MAIL-NO-SPAM>
Subject: The Nizkor Endowment Fund- A SCAM? See How its Sole Recipient Responds
to Honest Questions! aka Re: BlatherBlubber's still too stupid, Ken...
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:44:42 -0500
Message-ID: <0hk0tt4k5begohgsu...@4ax.com>

The above is also a MUST READ because it contains information to report
"suspected fraud."

On closing here is another person trying to defend Nizkor as an institution thus
deserving of having an Endowment Fund:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=scjnttkv4k8lmqt3ma8krbuk06g1mi90c2%404ax.com
From: Doc Tavish? <doc_t...@my-deja.comREMOVE2MAIL-NO-SPAM>
Subject: Re: The Nizkor Endowment Fund- A SCAM? See How its Sole Recipient
Responds to Honest Questions! R_2
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 03:56:22 -0600
Message-ID: <scjnttkv4k8lmqt3m...@4ax.com>

From: Brian Blank <nota...@earthlink.spamblocker.net>
Subject: Re: The Nizkor Endowment Fund- A SCAM? See How its Sole Recipient
Responds to Honest Questions! R_2
Message-ID: <sacntto7qmad7nqle...@4ax.com>

On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 07:33:48 GMT, <sacntto7qmad7nqle...@4ax.com>
Brian Blank <nota...@earthlink.spamblocker.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 11:53:49 -0500, Doc TavishŽ
><doc_t...@my-deja.comREMOVE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:

>>>>On Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:45:27 +0000 (UTC), <9qpea7$1i60$1...@news.tht.net>
>>>>kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>>>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>>Subject: BlatherBlubber's still too stupid, Ken...
>>>>>Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:45:27 +0000 (UTC)
>>>>>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>>>>>Message-ID: <9qpea7$1i60$1...@news.tht.net>
>>>>>References: <UISVSMY43718...@frog.gilgamesh.org>
>>>>><9qmtok$4d1$1...@suaar1ab.prod.compuserve.com>
>>>>><qhmustgqslm3egluu...@4ax.com>
>>>>><3bcf69b3...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
:
>>>>>In article <3bcf69b3...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>>>>>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>[BlubberBlather excised out of concern for public health]
:
>>>>I had stated: "I need to follow through on this as well as why Ken
>>>>McVay's Nizkor Endowment Fund has never made one single grant."
:
>>>>>>ROTFLMAO! You still don't have a clue what an endowment fund is for,
>>>>>>do you?
:
>>>>I know that every endowment fund that I researched makes GRANTS, which Nizkor
>>>>does NOT and Ken McVay has admitted that his Nizkor Endowment Fund: "no-one has
>>>>ever received a penny from the endowment fund..."
:
>>>You are without a doubt a complete idiot. This is a repost of a
>>>previous post made by you where I made the reply of:
>>>
>>>For crying out loud, learn some English will you. I posted this link
>>>to help you
>>>http://www.notredame.ac.jp/cgi-bin/wn?cmd=wn&word=endowment+fund
>>>
>>>Go there and read what an endowment fund is.
>>><begin quote>
>>>The noun endowment fund has 1 sense (no senses from tagged texts)
>>>1. endowment, endowment fund -- (the capital that provides income for
>>>an institution)
>>><end quote>
:
>>So you are saying that a web site operated by one man from the back room of his
>>own house is an "institution"?
:
>Yep. No matter the size of the institution.

So now you define an "institution" as being one person?
The link you used higher up shows otherwise when I queried it!

Look!

http://www.notredame.ac.jp/cgi-bin/wn?cmd=wn&word=institution
Sense 1
institution, establishment -- (an organization founded and united for a specific
purpose) --organization, organisation -- (a group of people who work together)

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

Also see:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=fbc8ntovvn169g536oh8ok2gsqqj8g15tb%404ax.com
From: Doc Tavish (doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM)
Subject: THE NIZKOR PROJECT=THE NIZKOR FOUNDATION=KEN MCVAY aka Money Laundering
by B'nai Brith Canada? (Posts by Waldo)
Message-ID: <fbc8ntovvn169g536...@4ax.com>
Date: 2001-08-10 13:55:48 PST

Xrefs:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=29kcnt4u9p49k8s681oem3ke0ctbjm73bg%404ax.com
Subject: How Long Will NIZKOR'S Ken McVay be Jovial? I Verified He Received
$50,000 From SAAF! aka Re: BlatherBlubber's Bullshit
Message-ID: <29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com>
Date: 2001-08-12 03:55:48 PST

As one can see from all of the above-- I show documented proofs of all that I
claim but for the most part my opposition resorts to condescending personal
attacks. The facts speak for themselves!

Here are posts showing McVay's Nizkor is neither a NonProfitOrganization nor a
Registered Charity hence not allowed to be recipient of "exempt donations":

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=qdb3ntsfl4hld4vbrpe5o4vlghoadoie2f%404ax.com
From: Doc Tavish (doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM)
Subject: Canadian Revenue Payers Subsidize NIZKOR, a Web Site not Sanctioned by
CCRA, Through an Elaborate Scam....
Message-ID: <qdb3ntsfl4hld4vbr...@4ax.com>
Date: 2001-08-08 14:58:45 PST

This post shows the parallels between the relationship Nizkor has with B'nai
Brith (so Ken McVay can receive "exempt donations") to a prosecution relating to
a Jewish religious group issuing bogus tax receipts:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=4&selm=asq3st8mhu9neabk4fpd15g49te5aga5pn%404ax.com
From: _Doc Tavish_ (doc_t...@my-deja.comREMOVE2MAIL-NO-SPAM)
Subject: The Fraudulent Nizkor Endowment Fund and Why Haven't Ken Lewis and Ken
McVay Replied
Newsgroups: alt.fraud
Message-ID: <asq3st8mhu9neabk4...@4ax.com>
Date: 2001-10-08 11:08:20 PST

(PARTIAL EXCERPT)

Here is a copy of McVay soliciting exempt donations for his self serving trust
and endowment funds:

http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html

The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. The League is a
national volunteer organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism,
racism and bigotry, and to promoting human rights for all Canadians.
Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation may
call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the receptionist
that they wish to make a donation to the Nizkor Project; If you prefer,
you can print this form and send to:

The Nizkor Project
c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8

Name:________________________________________
Street Address:________________________________________________
City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
E-Mail Address:_________________________________
Amount Enclosed: $___________

Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's
memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to
build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft
with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human
Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)

Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]

-----------------------

Compare the arrangement Ken McVay's Nizkor has with B'nai Brith and the
following scam to cheat CCRA and tax payers:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=i40bntkq8652svuum6s5i4gd4dpflj0qtd%404ax.com
From: Doc Tavish (doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM)
Subject: JAIL DEAL FOR RABBIS IN HOLOCAUST $CAM and HASIDIC GROUP CHARGED WITH
$60 MILLION FRAUD
Message-ID: <i40bntkq8652svuum...@4ax.com>
Date: 2001-08-11 12:16:55 PST
(EXCERPT)

<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>

http://www.usajewish.com/scripts/usaj/paper/Article.asp?ArticleID=932
(Link active October 7, 2001 for verification.)

HASIDIC GROUP CHARGED WITH $60 MILLION FRAUD
The Tash folks, who may or may not have invited neo-Nazi Haider to their
wedding, now have worse headaches to worry about.

Huge tax scam exposed

Religious group issued phony receipts for tens of millions

Hundreds of people and businesses in Montreal's Jewish community are to face
criminal charges or be required to pay tens of millions of dollars in evaded
taxes as a result of a guilty plea yesterday in a Saint-Jerome court. The guilty
plea by a religious group connected to the Hasidic community in suburban
Boisbriand capped a two-year investigation of what federal tax auditors say is
the largest-ever tax fraud involving a religious organization in Quebec.

The religious group, which is known as Construit Toujours Avec Bonte and has
links to the Montreal Rabbinical College, pleaded guilty to issuing tax receipts
for charitable donations that overstated the amount of the donation.

A senior Montreal construction executive blew the whistle on the scam when he
approached Revenue Canada, now part of the Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency,
with taped information in 1997. The resulting investigation saw federal tax
sleuths seize about $60 million in phony receipts from individuals and
businesses in the Jewish community, court documents say.

Joseph Gutstadt, president of Magil Construction International, the
whistle-blower who exposed the fraud, said in a telephone interview last night
from Israel: "I'm happy that, at the end of the day, justice has prevailed."

But Gutstadt said he was disappointed that Construit Toujours was fined only
$400,000, and that none of the administrators of the organization or the
rabbinical college were charged.
(Montreal Gazette, sent in by R. Shultz)

In pursuit of donors linked to tax evasion Hundreds in Jewish community under
scrutiny by federal officials. Federal tax investigators insisted yesterday that
they will continue an investigation involving hundreds of people and businesses
in the Jewish community suspected of participating in a charitable-donation tax
fraud. The case involves about $60 million in claimed donations, federal tax
officials said, making it Quebec's largest-ever tax fraud involving a religious
organization.

On Wednesday, a religious group connected to the Hasidic community of Tash, in
suburban Boisbriand, pleaded guilty to issuing charitable-donation tax receipts
which overstated the amounts actually given.

Yesterday, the community, through a public-relations firm, asserted that
government officials had agreed not to go after donors who participated in the
scam. The same statement said the community's Montreal Rabbinical College would
retain the right to issue charitable-donation receipts that can be used to
reduce donors' tax liabilities.
(Montreal Gazette, sent in by R. Shultz)

~~End of Partial Excerpt of GOOGLE Archive~~

From this single post we have proof that a web site operated from the back room
of the web site's operator receives exempt donations which he would not be privy
to. We see a religious organization acting as a funneling agent to get these
"exempt donations" to the operator of the web site (nizkor) solely operated by
Kenneth McVay. We also see that Kenneth McVay has a Nizkor Endowment Fund which
will not make public statements about its board of directors nor its location.
We know the Nizkor Endowment Fund has never given a single penny to anyone. We
also see that a Nizkor Trust Fund exists- all of this funded by "exempt
donations."

Seeing how both of these funds seem to have only one recipient they would be
better named as "The Ken McVay Endowment Fund" and "The Ken McVay Trust Fund."

Nizkor as a front acts as if it is a Holocaust information source and is
interested in historical research whereas the sole operator of Nizkor, Ken
McVay, almost daily makes personal attacks and libels against private citizens.
For a fact his web site keeps files on private citizens with such derogatory
material as:

One final question:
Can you name any other ENDOWMENT or TRUST FUND which finances an
individual's personal web site which is operated from the individual's own
residence which engages in daily personal attacks and smears against private
citizens or keeps files on private citizens like your NIZKOR does?

Anyone doubting NIZKOR does such here, once again, is my proof:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=7&selm=9a6tt401o5j%40news2.newsguy.com
From: RAMBO (RA...@NAM.COM)
Subject: B'nai Brith Canada Contacts and Filing Complaints Against NIZKOR
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 2001-04-01 03:52:05 PST
(EXCERPT - Click link above to read entire article)

The Canadian Jewish News:
http://www.cjnews.com/pastissues/oct21-99/front3.htm
"The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada administers the Nizkor
Fund, through which donations to support the Web site can be channeled."

Institute for Jewish Policy Research
http://www.axt.org.uk/antisem/countries/canada/canada.htm
"Donations to the Nizkor Fund can be made via its administrator, the
League for Human Rights of BBC."

[...]

Proof Ken McVay's Nizkor keeps files on private citizens:

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/
Some examples Nizkor defames private citizens:
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//g/grosvenor.william
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//g/giwer.matt
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//b/bradbury.scott

Sample of Ken McVay's (funded through B'nai Brith) defamations:

On 14 Jun 2000 04:48:42 GMT, kmc...@vex.net (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:

>In article <0af6a0a0...@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com>,
>BIRKENAU <michael87...@webtv.net.invalid> wrote:
>>Why interesting? Brought to you courtesy of Mr.
>>Winkler.
:
>Nope. Only one idiot that adds Winkler's name to his "anonymous" posts, and
>that's William Grosvenor.... it's most likely one of his bits of vomit - he
>is a well known hatemonger and documented liar. See
>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william

Let us use the example link Ken McVay gave above:
<http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william>

File Name Size Date

about-grosvenor 26.6K Feb 21 1999
background-grosvenor 18.3K Jun 04 1996
background-gruber 4.6K Nov 27 1997
gruber-10q 13.7K Apr 24 2000
gruber-10q.pl 13.0K Jan 01 1999

[...]

From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Question for Hilary Ostrov
Date: 5 Jan 2001 19:07:34 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <93561m$dbm$1...@news.tht.net>

On 5 Jan 2001 19:07:34 GMT, kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
wrote:

>In article <3A56274...@pop.mindspring.com>,
>Buck Turgidson <deppi...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>"Jeff F. Davis" wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>>> I am not sure but the B'nai Brith (which controls Nizkor by the way
>>> rather Ken admits this or not) is so powerful in Canada they had the
>>> nerve in a Canadian court that they should be able to illegally harass
>>> people because of the nature of the holocaust and all the good they have
>>> done to fight racism.
:
>>Looks like Li'l Tommy doesn't bogart HIS joints!

I'd have guessed Mid-Hootch Giwerundean, actually. We used to see a
lot more of it here, but I gather the Sterno shortage of '98 led to a
steep decline.

Of course, Donnie could simply have been sniffing gasoline.

<end>

From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Just In to the Tavish Hotline!...
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:37:02 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9a2u9u$19dg$1...@news.tht.net>

On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:37:02 +0000 (UTC), <9a2u9u$19dg$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:

[...]

>I understand that Bradbury may need money to buy an old trailer after
>his house is turned into a Jewish daycare center....
>
>I guess there's no way it'll ever be kosher, tho, what with all that
>lard...
>
>--
>"...I note that on the few occasions of which I am aware where purveyors of
>anti-Semitic propaganda have endeavoured to justify their materials in
>court on the facts and the merits, they have been singularly unsuccessful..."
> (http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/hweb/people/s/scully-olga/reason.html)

Anyone perusing: http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search
and using Nizkor Ken McVay's e-mail address
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org entered into GOOGLE'S
"Author Return only messages where the author is:" search now and using key
words such as Sterno Giwerundean Ignoramus etc. can see how Canadian
tax payers have subsidized for years a "website" which engages in petty attacks
against private citizens.

More examples:

From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,can.general,tor.general,on.general
Subject: Re: ATTENTION NIZKOR: Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit Organization
(NPO) Information Return Form T1044
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <99oro0$259r$1...@news.tht.net>
References: <eghvbtgm6r3tsa0ef...@4ax.com>
<3abfe742$0$1...@news.impulse.net>

On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC), kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth
McVay, OBC) wrote:

>Poor Mr. Bradbury... if he had a brain, he would be dangerous.
>
>Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website.

<end>

I asked why should a "website" be awarding tax receipts and I get personally
attacked!

More examples of either keeping files on private citizens and/or defaming them:

From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: Neya Kulturny proltariat
Date: 2001-03-23 07:57:07 PST

Followups to Giwer trolls should be redirected to Mr. Giwer's special
newsgroup, alt.bonehead.matt-giwer, where they will be appropriately
ignored (the group has no users - it's just a convenient toilet for
Matt's vomitus). If your site does not carry alt.bonehead.matt-giwer,
redirect non-Holocaust articles to alt.politics.white-power,
an equally vapid dumping ground for Giwerundian babblings.

<end>

All of the above excerpted from this post:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=pk89nt80883s56an0jv2ce144laoj1hl25%404ax.com
From: Doc Tavish (doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM)
Subject: MUST READ!! QUESTIONS KEN MCVAY WON'T ANSWER REGARDING THE NIZKOR
FOUNDATION
Message-ID: <pk89nt80883s56an0...@4ax.com>
Date: 2001-08-10 21:29:00 PST

Why should a web site operated solely by one man, Ken McVay, be able to have an
Endowment and Trust Fund made possible by "exempt donations" where he can
publicly attack private citizens and tell lies (libel) about private citizens!?

This should not be tolerated PERIOD!

Here is one final example of a libelous smear (and lie) told by Kenneth McVay
under the auspices of his Nizkor against me (and there are thousands of such
documents libeling people by Nizkor which can be retrieved from GOOGLE's
archives):

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=3&selm=9pidrd%24272q%241%40news.tht.net
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Will Ken Lewis Name Just One Recipient to the Nizkor Endowment Fund
Other Than Ken McVay?...
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 19:38:21 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9pidrd$272q$1...@news.tht.net>
References: <GJ6Y2ZG73716...@frog.gilgamesh.org>
<3bbcedb0...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
<3ulortgq9nldkb1ov...@4ax.com>
<3bc4b6cc...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
Reply-To: kmc...@nizkor.org
X-Trace: news.tht.net 1002224301 72794 216.126.72.25 (4 Oct 2001 19:38:21 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: scr...@hub.org
X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test72 (19 April 1999)

In article <3bc4b6cc...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:

[BlubberWhining excised]

>How many times has it have to be asked and answered before you take
>your head out of your ass?

It think it's stuck, Ken.

>Ken has already answered this. Unfortuanatly. I would have left you
>swinging in your own ignorance for a few more days.

Ken, this stupid lout will swing in his own ignorance for his entire
lifetime. I rather enjoy that thought :-)

>Now. Do you want to take the bet or not?

He won't - no balls, no bet. (Besides, he's, er, "impoverished," you
know... your basic welfare bum.)

"Denial of Science & The Science of Denial"
The Techniques of Holocaust Denial
http://www.nizkor.org/features/techniques-of-denial

~~End of Exact GOOGLE Archive~~

The above libel ".. he's, er, "impoverished," you know... your basic welfare
bum." was the only reply McVay could make to my honest questions regarding his
funding! I am not impoverished and I am NOT on welfare and the fact that such a
one man smear operation is allowed to do such with the funding provided by
"exempt donations" infuriates me and it should infuriate all other people who
indirectly subsidize Ken McVay without their knowledge or permission! (This is
what happens when those tax receipts are issued- the Canadian Revenue payer is
indirectlky subsidizing this one man smear operation!!)

This obvious abuse of "exempt donations" must be brought to an end and Kenneth
McVay should be compelled to make an accounting for his received "exempt
donations" and his endowment and trust funds.

Need I say more?

Other than: Ken McVay is an "alleged confidence man" who needs to be
investigated for his requests for "exempt donations" funneled through B'nai
Brith and the San Antonio Area Foundation. How many web sites do any of you all
know of which ask for exempt donations and have endowment and trust funds
especially considering it is entirely a one man operation operated from a back
room of his personal residence?

Doc Tavish aka Scott Bradbury

--
"For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which none of your adversaries
will be able to withstand or contradict." Son of Man {Luke 21:15 RSV}

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