Sara Salzman pro-abortion,sexual sadist, and pervert... history revisited.
Patจ
This published this hoping that young children would read her sadistic
fantasies.
She is married to a man that believes in training her young daughter as a
sexual domme.
And she can't deny a word of it.
From: ssch...@infinet.com Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
Organization: InfiNet
Lines: 114
Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p21.infinet.com
My Master holds the rope just so.
He knows me. Knows my moods. Knows the fear behind my eyes, both real and
imagined.
Those eyes widen as he gently lays the rope down, as he carefully,
methodically, systematically, lays the toys down on the bed.
Soft moans escape from behind gagged lips. I have been told to watch.
To see each and know that soon each will touch me.
He looks up briefly as he lays each down on the bed. Checking reactions.
Watching.
The short whip. A sigh.
The deerskin. The suede.
The small braided thong, the one that stings. A short moan.
The horsehair that stings but never marks.
The canes. The paddles. A pause.
I wait, knowing.
The small velvet bag that holds clamps. Clamps too severe for my breasts,
yet applied anyway.
A gasp. And then his smile.
He knows me. He knows I will take the pain to please him. He knows the
sacrifice I make to his Gods of Pain. He sees the torment in my eyes. The
desire to please. The love. The fear of the pain.
My Master holds the rope just so.
Through his fingers, around my wrists, making delicate rings softer than
steel. Stronger than steel. One on each wrist, a gentle bracelet that is
soon pulled tight, stretched to the bedposts and wrapped tightly. One on
each ankle. No matter how I tighten my muscles as he wraps the rope, still
it is perfectly tight. The circulation moves.
The ankle does not.
I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts.
But first, two small wooden clothespins bob before my eyes. I turn my
head, remember I am instructed to watch, turn back. The clothespins bite
the delicate flesh of each nipple. Grasp. Sting. Burn. He waits.
My Master knows me. Knows he can whip me, clothespins and all. Knows the
pain, where it will hurt the most, what I can and cannot take.
He waits.
The burning increases as the pins are removed. Ah, he will not whip me
with clothespins in place. But the moment when I was unsure, when the
blood pounded in my temples and the fear covered me like a shroud, then he
watched my eyes.
The whip falls. Which one is it now? I cannot turn my head to see which he
reaches for. But I know them all. I arch my back, try to stay still.
My Master knows me. Knows I will hold position as long as possible, before
the pain forces me to writhe, to turn, to try in vain to shield my
breasts. Knows the moment when I can no longer stay still. And precisely
then, says gently, "Don't move."
My Master holds the rope just so. Gently tugging at the knots, to release
arms and legs from bondage. Gently unwraps each wrist, each ankle. Rubs
each, and kisses the places where the rope has left its mark. The gag is
removed. I swallow.
"Kneel."
I crouch on the bed, head down, ass up, as he mounts the bed behind me.
His hands caress my ass softly, then spank sharply. Slowly, quickly, his
hand falls upon my ass. I wait for the moment, the pain/pleasure as he
will enter me. But not yet. First a gentle tapping, soft touch, as he
marks the place the cane will fall. I brace myself, plead with myself to
hold position, knowing each stroke brings a fire hotter than any flame.
Five strokes. Six. I have not moved. As the pain from each begins to
subside, a soft, half-sob. "Thank you, Master."
Eight. Nine. My knees give out, and I fall to the bed, sobbing. But
immediately back on my knees again. "Thank you, Master."
Ten. I am aware of nothing, save the pain. And his voice, as I am
commanded to orgasm, not from stimulation, not from his fingers or his
cock, but from pain alone. My body responds without hesitation. My
pleasure is screamed out for his pleasure.
Later, I will feel his cock inside me. I will feel the force as he thrusts
deep into me, bruising the tender flesh with his strength. Later I will
come, and come, and come, but only by his command. Later, we will lie
back, exhausted, as he cradles me in his arms, strokes me gently, whispers
in my ear.
But not yet.
Now he rises from the bed, returns to the toys so carefully laid out before
me.
My Master holds the rope just so.
(c) 1994 Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect
PLEASE DO NOT REPOST WITHOUT PERMISSION
Sara
<p...@blakely.harrogate.net> wrote:
> For those who do not know what kind of person Psycho Sara Salzman is:
For those who want to know what kind of person "Pat Blakely" is...
[snip]
> (c) 1994 Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect
> PLEASE DO NOT REPOST WITHOUT PERMISSION
>
>
>
--
"Americans have different ways of saying things. They say "elevator",
we say "lift" ... they say "President", we say "stupid psychopathic git."
Alexai Sayle.
_Tavish_
<catamont-A63189...@news.concentric.net> Sara
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <yPpu8.49662$XP2.18...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>, "Pat¨"
><p...@blakely.harrogate.net> wrote:
"Pat Blakely" claims to have an account at South Carolina Road Runner BUT does
he also have accounts with Road Runner in Kansas City, Austin, TampaBay, and
Cincinnati? I now have numerous posts documented as sent by Donald Ray Ellis
and/or his sock puppets through those Road Runner locales too! Care to explain
"Pat"? I also got this from Road Runner:
Status: U
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From: <wilew...@sc.rr.com>
To: "Scott Bradbury" <xx...@ix.netcom.com>
References: <3.0.3.32.2002041...@popd.ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: I Wish to Report a Malicious and Obnoxious Cable Pirate
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Bradbury" <xxx...@ix.netcom.com>
To: <wilew...@sc.rr.com>; <ab...@rr.com>; <secu...@rr.com>;
<abuse-ne...@sc.rr.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 10:00 AM
Subject: I Wish to Report a Malicious and Obnoxious Cable Pirate
> To whom it may concern,
> There is an obnoxious hacker who keeps riding on your cable modem and if
> Road Runner would prosecute this cable pirate then much abuse of Netizens
> will be stopped.
> Here is what I keep posting and this involves a miscreant who actually
> lives in Star City, Arkansas who uses an alias who allegedly lives in
> Baltimore, Maryland.
>
> <START>
<END>
You know the rest! I now theorize that you received a copy of my complaint at
your <p...@blakely.harrogate.net> address in Road Runner's attempt to scare you
off. Who knows?
Perhaps you do have an account with their Columbia, S.C. facility and you are
accessing it via a dialup from Star City, Arkansas in your vain attempts to
throw your victims off the trail. I found out that what I just theorized is
entirely possible too as this link shows:
http://www.sc.rr.com/dialupaccess.htm
"Road Runner dial-up access provides Road Runner subscribers with access
to their Road Runner e-mail, Usenet Newsgroups and the World Wide Web when
they're away from home and unable to access the Internet through a Road Runner
cable modem connection.
This service is not intended for use as a backup to broadband Internet
access through your Road Runner cable modem. In the event of a cable or Road
Runner outage in your area, please be patient and wait for Time Warner engineers
to restore service in your area.
In order to use Road Runner's dial-up access, the computer you're using
needs to be equipped with an analog modem and must meet the dial-up access
minimum requirements*. You'll also need a standard telephone line to connect to
your analog modem.
Since Road Runner local home pages are only accessible from within the
Road Runner network, to view these pages over a Road Runner dial-up connection,
you must sign up for Road Runner dial-up access through a Road Runner cable
modem connection. At this time, Road Runner dial-up access registration is only
for Road Runner master accounts.
Road Runner dial-up access is limited to transfer rates of 53 kilobits
per second and, therefore, does not provide speeds comparable to broadband cable
Internet service." <end>
I'd imagine if I so desired I too could get an account with Road Runner in
Columbia, South Carolina and also do as the above suggests and have it appear
that I too live in the Columbia, South Carolina area! Road Runner wouldn't mind
taking money from someone outside their area I'd imagine as long as they paid
their bill BUT then again- you are probably still hacking them anyway!
<<Just as you telnet a public library (Anne Arundel County Public Library) in
Maryland to make it look like you live in Maryland as documented here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=2gp9aukklmgjlnhe4q0t0acavje0shvm92%404ax.com
Message-ID: <2gp9aukklmgjlnhe4...@4ax.com>
You are desperate to keep your victims from finding out where you really live
BUT I am doing my best to educate ALL of your victims!!!>>
I know for a fact that you can't also have accounts in these locations: Kansas
City, Austin, TampaBay, and Cincinnati. Your days of criminal hacking and
harassing people should be almost over with!
BTW not only do you telnet into REMOTE.LIB.GW.AACPL.LIB.MD.US (Anne Arundel
County Public Library) you are also on record as telnetting into another state
of Maryland facility as shown here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=John+Morris+telnet+Maryland&hl=en&selm=bd01qs0dglsr01ov03ar88lduvb8ms639o%404ax.com&rnum=1
From: John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: How to pretend you are in Maryland
Organization: University of Alberta
Reply-To: John....@UAlberta.CA
Message-ID: <bd01qs0dglsr01ov0...@4ax.com>
1. Establish a telnet session with sailor.lib.md.us
2. Login as "guest"
3. Hit the Enter key until a Lynx session starts
4. Select "Cruise the Internet"
5. Select "Internet search engines"
6. Select "Deja.com"
7. Select "login" to log into your deja.com account
8. Post a message (your posting host will appear as sailor.lib.md.us)
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
If you are so honest and above board then why do you persist in trying to mask
your identity and location to the paranoiac degree that you do Don Ellis/Pat
Blakely? Your very methods show you're dishonest!
>> For those who do not know what kind of person Psycho Sara Salzman is:
^^^^^^
I wouldn't think a self professed Reverend would speak in the manner you do!
>For those who want to know what kind of person "Pat Blakely" is...
>
>[snip]
>
>> (c) 1994 Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect
>> PLEASE DO NOT REPOST WITHOUT PERMISSION
He's also the type person who claims to be a Christian yet he fabricates evil
deeds against people, he's a liar and a slanderer, he continually e-mail bombs
people, he harasses elderly people with such shenanigans as making posts which
contain: "Cheap pussy- XXX XXXXX's drunk bitch of a mother is XXXX XXXXXX
<address etc. deleted> XXXXX will take your money at the door."
One could only hope bastard Ellis will succumb to a fatal disease and die!
I for one am tired of his e-mail bombings and slander.
Scott Bradbury
---
For those who have been abused or harassed by Don Ellis/RevWhite/Pat Blakely:
Donald Ray Ellis aka Pat Blakely/RevWhite/Mike Kalvatis/Rob Stewart ET AL
108 E. Victory Street
Star City, Arkansas 71667
Tel: (870) 628-1437
---
Arkansas Criminal Detail:
Name ELLIS,DONALD R.
Docket number 20 1988 18
DOB Jul 7 1955
Disp type Felony
File type Felony
Name ELLIS,DONALD R.
Docket number 06 1988 21
DOB Jul 7 1955
Disp type Felony
File type Felony
It is rumored but not yet confirmed and was posted:
From: anonimo arancio
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: THE SON DON ELLIS _MURDERED_
Message-ID: <914f2ad6512b29a2...@arancio.net>
Date: 15 Apr 2002 06:43:13 -0000
Care to talk about the involuntary manslaughter charge you were
convicted for which resulted in the death of your first born?
Now we all know why you served time.
<END>
From: Generic Poster
Date: 15 Apr 2002 06:53:10 -0000
Message-ID: <6OT8VURC3736...@anonymous.poster>
Subject: Don Ellis
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
A few facts about Don Ellis:
1. His first wife divorced him for physical and mental cruelty. It
was only later that she discovered that he had sexually molested both
of their children. (The first child died through wreckless endangerment
and Don was deprived of his only son. He now makes his daughter engage in
boyish behavior to take his place. Sorry Don but drinking, driving, and
toddlers do not mix. How many years did you serve for manslaughter?)
2. He has attempted to pass himself off as, at various times, a
Baptist minister, a Lutheran minister, and most recently a Methodist
Minister. In all of these cases, he has used these deceptions in an
attempt to con money from unsuspecting Christians. ....
<END>
Time will tell!
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Lisa
p...@blakely.harrogate.net says...
> For those who do not know what kind of person Psycho Sara Salzman is:
> This published this hoping that young children would read her sadistic
> fantasies.
> She is married to a man that believes in training her young daughter as a
> sexual domme.
> And she can't deny a word of it.
>
apparently subscribe to that ng who are you to judge?
--
Lisa - aka adversity
aa# 2030
Fear is the main source of superstition,
and one of the main sources of cruelty.
To conquer fear is the beginning of wisdom.
Fear Controls Knowledge...Knowledge Controls Fear
http://www.hutchandlisa.net
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Commissar
"_Tavish_" <REMOVE2MA...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:genlbu4vo8p3tcl2d...@4ax.com...
> From: anonimo arancio
> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> Subject: THE SON DON ELLIS _MURDERED_
> Message-ID: <914f2ad6512b29a2...@arancio.net>
> Date: 15 Apr 2002 06:43:13 -0000
>
> Care to talk about the involuntary manslaughter charge you were
> convicted for which resulted in the death of your first born?
> Now we all know why you served time.
>
Damn, you mean I only got nailed for one kid?
--
Commissar
_Tavish_
I take it that you're admitting its true!
Commissar
> On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:21:17 -0500, <a9fbdv$mor$1...@newsfeed.centurytel.net>
> "Commissar" <comm...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"_Tavish_" <REMOVE2MA...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> >news:genlbu4vo8p3tcl2d...@4ax.com...
> >> From: anonimo arancio
> >> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >> Subject: THE SON DON ELLIS _MURDERED_
> >> Message-ID: <914f2ad6512b29a2...@arancio.net>
> >> Date: 15 Apr 2002 06:43:13 -0000
> >>
> >> Care to talk about the involuntary manslaughter charge you were
> >> convicted for which resulted in the death of your first born?
> >> Now we all know why you served time.
> :
> >Damn, you mean I only got nailed for one kid?
>
> I take it that you're admitting its true!
>
>
According to Humphrey, the only way you're taking it these days is right up
the ass. LOL
--
Commissar
PÃT
> In article <yPpu8.49662$XP2.18...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>,
> p...@blakely.harrogate.net says...
>
>>For those who do not know what kind of person Psycho Sara Salzman is:
>>This published this hoping that young children would read her sadistic
>>fantasies.
>>She is married to a man that believes in training her young daughter as a
>>sexual domme.
>>And she can't deny a word of it.
>>
>
> And this is what business of yours or anyone else? Besides, since you
> apparently subscribe to that ng who are you to judge?
Child abuse is everyone's business. That is why it is the People vs the
defendant. Duuuuhhhhhhhh
Do you think that teaching your 5 year old children to be sexual domme's
should be legal and everyone should just ignore it?
That is what Sara's husband exactly admitted to years ago on usenet.
She can't deny it.
--
pat
Lisa
p...@blakeIy.harrogate.net says...
was a child involved (other than the beginning rant).
PÃT
> In article <3CBB9895...@blakeIy.harrogate.net>,
> p...@blakeIy.harrogate.net says...
>
>>Lisa wrote:
>>
>>>In article <yPpu8.49662$XP2.18...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>,
>>>p...@blakely.harrogate.net says...
>>>
>>>
>>>>For those who do not know what kind of person Psycho Sara Salzman is:
>>>>This published this hoping that young children would read her sadistic
>>>>fantasies.
>>>>She is married to a man that believes in training her young daughter as a
>>>>sexual domme.
>>>>And she can't deny a word of it.
>>>>
>>>
>>>And this is what business of yours or anyone else? Besides, since you
>>>apparently subscribe to that ng who are you to judge?
>>
>>Child abuse is everyone's business. That is why it is the People vs the
>>defendant. Duuuuhhhhhhhh
>>
>>Do you think that teaching your 5 year old children to be sexual domme's
>>should be legal and everyone should just ignore it?
>>
>>That is what Sara's husband exactly admitted to years ago on usenet.
>>She can't deny it.
>>
>
> I saw nothing in the text of the original post which indicated that there
> was a child involved (other than the beginning rant).
You are lying on purpose. Here is the quote again. It exactly mentions a
five year old child. You snipped it out on purpose
<quote>
"As the step-father of a five year old domme in training" - Charles
Tucker aka husband of Sara Salzman 4/4/1997 on alt.sadistic and alt.torture
</quote>
Again, you omitted the evidence on purpose
The only reason someone would do this is to defend a sex predator.
Now again, do you think that training five year old girls as a sexual
domme (and bragging about in alt.sadistic and alt.torture) is normal
human behavior?
Would you permit your husband to brag on sexual newsgroups about
training your child as a sexual domme?
The evidence is beginning to show that you do.
--
pat
John Morris
Hash: SHA1
In <3CBC7B03...@blakeIy.harrogate.net> in alt.revisionism, on
Tue, 16 Apr 2002 19:27:10 GMT, PÄ‚T <p...@blakeIy.harrogate.net> wrote:
> Lisa wrote:
> > In article <3CBB9895...@blakeIy.harrogate.net>,
> > p...@blakeIy.harrogate.net says...
> >>Lisa wrote:
> >>>In article <yPpu8.49662$XP2.18...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>,
> >>>p...@blakely.harrogate.net says...
> >>>>For those who do not know what kind of person Psycho Sara
> >>>>Salzman is: This published this hoping that young children
> >>>>would read her sadistic fantasies.
> >>>>She is married to a man that believes in training her young
> >>>>daughter as a sexual domme.
> >>>>And she can't deny a word of it.
> >>>And this is what business of yours or anyone else? Besides,
> >>>since you apparently subscribe to that ng who are you to judge?
> >>Child abuse is everyone's business. That is why it is the People
> >>vs the defendant. Duuuuhhhhhhhh
Except that this sick atalker calls all and sundry pedophiles if they
dare to contradict his diseased fanatsies.
> >>Do you think that teaching your 5 year old children to be sexual
> >>domme's should be legal and everyone should just ignore it?
> >>That is what Sara's husband exactly admitted to years ago on
> >>usenet. She can't deny it.
> > I saw nothing in the text of the original post which indicated
> > that there was a child involved (other than the beginning rant).
> You are lying on purpose.
No. You are lying on purpose. It is the only purpose you know.
> Here is the quote again.
But not the whole quote, right?
> It exactly mentions a
> five year old child. You snipped it out on purpose
Do you still have your web page of Chris Tucker's posts? Did you
remove all the examples that show Chris Tucker is unequivocally
opposed to pedohilia?
> <quote>
> "As the step-father of a five year old domme in training" - Charles
> Tucker aka husband of Sara Salzman 4/4/1997 on alt.sadistic and
> alt.torture </quote>
> Again, you omitted the evidence on purpose
Again, *you* omitted the evidence on purpose.
> The only reason someone would do this is to defend a sex predator.
The only reason you keep lying about it is because you are totally
inadequate human being.
> Now again, do you think that training five year old girls as a
> sexual domme
Except that's not being done. You just like to lie about it.
> (and bragging about in alt.sadistic and alt.torture) is normal
> human behavior?
What's even more abnormal: stalking Sara Salzman for all these years
because your life is so hopelessly diseased.
> Would you permit your husband to brag on sexual newsgroups about
> training your child as a sexual domme?
Neither would Sara Salzman.
> The evidence is beginning to show that you do.
Don't reply. It just gives this sick freak a reason to start
stalking you. It's what he does.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Sara
<adve...@nospamhutchandlisa.net> wrote:
In fact, the quote specifically says it was FIGURATIVE, NOT LITERAL. The
author was implying that his step-daughter was a bossy little
five-year-old.
This has been pointed out hundreds of times to Mr. Blakely, but he'd
rather lie about it instead.
Sara
John Morris
Hash: SHA1
In <catamont-517165...@news.concentric.net> in
alt.revisionism, on 17 Apr 2002 01:52:57 GMT, Sara
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
> > > Lisa wrote:
Exactly.
> This has been pointed out hundreds of times to Mr. Blakely, but
> he'd rather lie about it instead.
And the poor sad freak Blakely just can't get his head around the
idea that the author has a considerable and consistent history of
opposition to children being used sexually by adults where Blakely
himself has spent many years using other people's children to stalk
and intimidate their parents.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Lisa
> Again, you omitted the evidence on purpose
> The only reason someone would do this is to defend a sex predator.
>
> Now again, do you think that training five year old girls as a sexual
> domme (and bragging about in alt.sadistic and alt.torture) is normal
> human behavior?
>
> Would you permit your husband to brag on sexual newsgroups about
> training your child as a sexual domme?
>
> The evidence is beginning to show that you do.
>
Lisa
cata...@concentric.net says...
I thought I read it thoroughly but honestly missed any reference to a
child. Now the part of the bossy little 5yo makes sense. Have a 5yo son
myself and he thinks he is king of the world. LOL. Just hope it's a phase
he outgrows.
Voice of Reason
news:MPG.17277da87...@news.charter.net...
In alt.sadism and alt.torture???????????? both hard core sex groups?
If Sara's husband posted this in a non-sex group, it might hold weight.
But in alt.sadism and alt.torture? It is clearly a sexual tone to it. Read
the entire post he did where he makes the quote. Pure sexual fantasy.
Do you go around bragging about training your children as dommes in these
newsgroups?
Lisa of course says yes. PsychoSara is just coming with yet her 15th excuse
on this behavior.
All 14 of the others have failed.
Now Lisa, would you support your husband going around in alt.sadism and
alt.torture bragging about training your child as a sexual domme?
Watch her run....
--
pat
Voice of Reason
"As the step-father of a five year old domme in training" - Charles
Tucker aka husband of Sara Salzman 4/4/1997 on alt.sadistic and alt.torture
</quote>
The words of man who defends this behavior mean nothing.
--
pat
Voice of Reason
"As the step-father of a five year old domme in training" - Charles
Tucker aka husband of Sara Salzman 4/4/1997 on alt.sadistic and alt.torture
</quote>
False. The posting took place in sex torture and sex sadism newsgroups.
The idea is 100% clear.
Sara and her husband train their 5 year old children to be sexual dommes.
She has admitted herself to being investigated by children's protective
services in Ohio and in Colorado, both by her own admission.
--
pat
Voice of Reason
For the third time, here is the quote
<quote>
"As the step-father of a five year old domme in training" - Charles
Tucker aka husband of Sara Salzman 4/4/1997 on alt.sadistic and alt.torture
</quote>
Look up the meaning of the word "domme" in the context of a newsgroup called
alt.torture and alt.sadism
Clearly Lisa defends people who teach 5 year old girls in the art of sexual
sadism.
Why do you support this behavior?
And the question you won't answer.
Would you be happy if you husband was bragging about teaching your daugher
to be a sexual "domme" in alt.torture and alt.sadism?
Watch Lisa run and rant instead of giving direct answers.
--
pat
Patrick Keenan
Thinks he's king, hmmm... Sure you're not raising him to favour
undemocratic, totalitarian, despotic political systems?
According to Blakely, you must be guilty of this.
-pk
Sara
of Reason" <tavishis...@blakely.harrogate.net> wrote:
The Father of Lies is at it again. Post the REST OF THE SENTENCE, Father
of Lies.
Sara
<adve...@nospamhutchandlisa.net> wrote:
Unfortunately, Mr. Blakely is at the top of that particular garbage
heap. He has been stalking and harassing me for quite a few years. He's
famous for taking things out of context, or more often, bald-face lying
about people he doesn't like.
>
> I thought I read it thoroughly but honestly missed any reference to a
> child. Now the part of the bossy little 5yo makes sense. Have a 5yo son
> myself and he thinks he is king of the world. LOL. Just hope it's a phase
> he outgrows.
That's exactly it. Mr. Blakely likes to trumpet that I was
"investigated" by Children's Protective Services, which is true. My
ex-husband's girlfriend "reported" us as part of an ongoing harassment
campaign.
When Mr. Blakely conveniently forgets to add is that we were completely
cleared, exonerated, and even apologised to by CPS for having to bother
us. If we had been doing anything as vile as what Mr. Blakely accuses us
of, why did we get a clean bill of health?
It's also interesting that Mr. Blakely titled his thread "Sara Salzman,
pro-abortion... etc.", since there's nothing in the posts anywhere about
where I stand on abortion. He put that in the title so he could have an
excuse to cross-post his drivel from alt.revisionism to alt.abortion.
The fact is, I am a Jewish woman who isn't afraid of thugs like Blakely,
and that pisses him off.
LiberalMinded
making sure goggle keeps forever :
looks like some handy dandy trolling to me
BTW I liked this page the most
http://www.hutchandlisa.net/lisa/control.html
Can't have somebody trolling a fellow animal control person.
| --
| Lisa - aka adversity
| aa# 2030
|
| Fear is the main source of superstition,
| and one of the main sources of cruelty.
| To conquer fear is the beginning of wisdom.
| Fear Controls Knowledge...Knowledge Controls Fear
| http://www.hutchandlisa.net
| take out nospam to reply by email
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mhm32x20 Can ya say Meow?
Royal Pain in the Assbasturderr to the Land of Snuh and Meow as well as
Usenet at large.
LiberalMinded
stuff which I am making sure goggle keeps forever :
| Again, Lisa instead of responding to the post decides to rant and
| rave.
|
| For the third time, here is the quote
|
| <quote>
| "As the step-father of a five year old domme in training" - Charles
| Tucker aka husband of Sara Salzman 4/4/1997 on alt.sadistic and
| alt.torture </quote>
Post the whole article right here. I sort of don't want to take your word
on what was said or the context.
|
| Look up the meaning of the word "domme" in the context of a newsgroup
| called alt.torture and alt.sadism
On the surface if I had someone who I know who is into that say that to me I
would not take it as sexual. Nothing about that lifestyle suggests they
have sex with kids but the mindset would suggest to me they were speaking of
bringing up a child who was very assertive.
|
| Clearly Lisa defends people who teach 5 year old girls in the art of
| sexual sadism.
|
| Why do you support this behavior?
|
| And the question you won't answer.
|
| Would you be happy if you husband was bragging about teaching your
| daugher to be a sexual "domme" in alt.torture and alt.sadism?
|
| Watch Lisa run and rant instead of giving direct answers.
Please post the entire post right here. You seem to know quotes from it but
I want to see the whole thing including the headers. Failure to do so shows
you are just trolling
|
| --
| pat
Voice of Reason
news:cQlv8.99005$VM5.61...@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com...
> Voice of Reason, tavishis...@blakely.harrogate.net, said all this
> stuff which I am making sure goggle keeps forever :
>
> | Again, Lisa instead of responding to the post decides to rant and
> | rave.
> |
> | For the third time, here is the quote
> |
> | <quote>
> | "As the step-father of a five year old domme in training" - Charles
> | Tucker aka husband of Sara Salzman 4/4/1997 on alt.sadistic and
> | alt.torture </quote>
>
> Post the whole article right here. I sort of don't want to take your word
> on what was said or the context.
Fair enough.
From: Cougar (cou...@cris.com)
Subject: Re: Is A Switch More Sadistic Than A Sadist
Newsgroups: alt.sadistic, alt.torture
View complete thread (2 articles)
Date: 1997/04/04
rain...@praxis.net wrote in article
<334719e5...@news.praxis.net>...
> "Cougar" <cou...@cris.com> wrote and I had to answer:
> >I'll stand and deliver, for the moment. I am one who did at least
_attempt_
> >to do the other side of the whip in a serious mode. Once. The experiment
> >(for that was what it was) was worse than a failure, as it cost me a
> >friendship.
>
> This one is very sad to hear that it cost you a friend....soemtimes we
> have to separate our friends from our sexuallity...not hide it from
> them, but not engage friends within it unless the friendship has grown
> out of it. Boy did this one make a bastard of that statement. Sadly
> too often when we go to bed with our friends and it does not work out,
> we lose both lover and friend for the relationship can never be the
> same...there that made more sense.
I believe you misunderstand. She was already in the scene. The event
that
cost the friendship was the fact that she realized, as did I, who was
really "on top" during the session. She had asked for a massage, which
I
delivered. She then asked what was different about what I had done and
a
sensual massage. Being from Missouri, I showed her. At the end of that
massage I was clearly in charge and she had orgasmed.
She considered herself domme only. Having shown her otherwise was a
blow to
her sense of self. Apparently unforgivable. She would not reply to my
mail
or talk to me online afterwards.
> <minor snip for space>
> >This
> >personality is kept inside my head, being the idealized image of the type
> >of person I enjoy playing with. When writing or planning a scene, she
gets
> >consulted.
>
> Hmmm this one has to ask if you mean this..literally. Do you literally
> PLAN a scene? As an Occasional switch and yes it is very occasional,
> this one has never planned or written a scene...heck don't even do
> that in the Story...it just flows (surprise the hell out of myself
> sometimes with what my fingers write)...when working with someone
> elses pain...this one has all toys available to hand and just flows
> from one area to another, never really planning what is to be used or
> done, but reacting to the other persons response.
I have too many toys to have them ALL ready to hand. As for planning,
please consult my post from this morning on the topic. It's an example
of
how things get "planned".
> >Under no circumstances would I be able to replicate the experience of
being
> >a female masochist in mentality. I wasn't raised female.
> Nope and for the most part even those who are...if they are not
> masochistic can not understand for the life of them WHY anyone would
> want to be.
An excellent example of your words are the Anne Rice Beauty stories.
How
one can write a few hot scenes but not get the emotions behind them, I
don't know. You gotta be in the head and heart to make it hot in
reality.
> other than to keep the household budget and cook. Now a days there is
> more and more pointed towards young females and the slaves and subs of
> tomorrow may well give the Doms a hell of a run for the money.
>
As the step-father of a five year old domme in training (that is NOT
meant
literally, oh yea of political correctness!) I think they'll give the
subs
of tomorrow hell, too.
>
> You are a very smart and lucky man to have some insight into the
> female mentallity...but this one has to wonder...what does your
> construct...keep from you? after all a major part of the females
> allure is her mystery...even when you think you know all of her
> intimately...she can always surprise you :)
>
>
What she keeps from me is what she does not know. What I have not
gained
from the conversations with the women I have encountered. Which is why
I
keep talking to them, in addition to caring for them as people and
friends.
Is there an allure in mystery? I suppose for many that is true. Yet
the
mystery for me is how I can improve upon what I do. Deepen control.
Extend
the limits. Fly higher, further. For that, the mystery is not only
found in
the female mind, but in my own.
PurpleMage
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
Voice of Reason
Who in their right mind would mention training a 5 year old girl as a domme
in this kind of setting in alt.torture and alt.sadism? Even if they were
just kidding, you don't kid about your child while talking about sexual
torture and sadism.
LiberalMinded
Did u miss, "(that is NOT meant literally, oh yea of political
correctness!)" as this remark seems more sarcastic than anything else?
Don't know about you but I think they are brave souls to come and talk about
things like this.
What I also take from this is that the people talking are in adult
realtionships and seem to be doing better than most at keeping the sexual
mindset in that realm only. I have known a few who did not seem to have the
key to turn this on or off at will.
BTW I take for granted the nyms are who you say they are but why must you
drag this in? Do you have some problem with the topic in general?
|
||
|| You are a very smart and lucky man to have some insight into the
|| female mentallity...but this one has to wonder...what does your
|| construct...keep from you? after all a major part of the females
|| allure is her mystery...even when you think you know all of her
|| intimately...she can always surprise you :)
||
||
|
| What she keeps from me is what she does not know. What I have not
| gained
| from the conversations with the women I have encountered. Which is why
| I
| keep talking to them, in addition to caring for them as people and
| friends.
|
| Is there an allure in mystery? I suppose for many that is true. Yet
| the
| mystery for me is how I can improve upon what I do. Deepen control.
| Extend
| the limits. Fly higher, further. For that, the mystery is not only
| found in
| the female mind, but in my own.
|
| PurpleMage
|
|
| ----------------------------------------------------------------------
| ------ ----
LiberalMinded
stuff which I am making sure goggle keeps forever :
| Here is the post in it's total completion.
|
| Who in their right mind would mention training a 5 year old girl as a
| domme in this kind of setting in alt.torture and alt.sadism? Even if
| they were just kidding, you don't kid about your child while talking
| about sexual torture and sadism.
I read this in your other post. It seems you are grasping for straws here
and I will take for granted that maybe you read into this more than what was
there. You said you do not kid about your child when talking about sexual
torture and sadism and I agree YOU may not since it seems you see this
lifestyle as something you would not choose but OTHERS do not see it as
being wrong in the least and the thoughts that one day the child they have
will grow up and practice the same thing is exactly what all parents think.
In the 50's we trained our kids to grow up and be a certain way. We did the
same in the 60's right on up till now. Hate to tell you and them this but
training or even having that door open for them does not mean they will go
that way.
What I see is the same thoughts people have used to try and stop gays from
adopting or to take kids from parents who happen to practice more than the
missionary position. Unless the people you are choosing to TROLL come and
say otherwise I think I side with them in this.
BTW the Voice of Reason is seldom that in reality. Usually it is yet
another excuse to try and impose some value set on other people that have
nothing at all to do with the imposer.
Before I forget: You seem to be posting from harrogate.net which is also
the name of the town up the road from me. I am betting yours is the one
this one was named after though.
Voice of Reason
Nope. Even if they were just kidding, it is really sick behavior to mention
training your child as a domme in a sex newsgroup. That is the point. These
people are sick.
Tell me, would you go around the sex newsgroups about sadism and torture
bragging about training your child as a domme, even if you were "just
kidding about it"?
When the post were handed over the social workers in Baltimore, they viewed
it as possible child endangerment. Because it was four years ago and the
culprit has moved to a different state, prosecution would be impossible.
However, it documented and if something does come up, it can be used.
>
> What I also take from this is that the people talking are in adult
> realtionships and seem to be doing better than most at keeping the sexual
> mindset in that realm only. I have known a few who did not seem to have
the
> key to turn this on or off at will.
>
> BTW I take for granted the nyms are who you say they are but why must you
> drag this in? Do you have some problem with the topic in general?
The topic is Lisa defends little children being trained as sexual dommes.
That is what the post implies even if he was "just kidding"
You don't kid in sexual newsgroups about training them as sexual dommes.
No rational parent does this.
--
Pat
The truth about Scott "Seig Heil" Bradbury, the past he wants you to forget
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=ycvr8.10271%242J2.3135329%40typho
on.southeast.rr.com
Rice Chek
"LiberalMinded" <emailem...@nospamNOSPAM.not> wrote in message
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The Voice of Reason
Then her and Cougar fled from Ohio to Colorado
>
> When Mr. Blakely conveniently forgets to add is that we were completely
> cleared, exonerated, and even apologised to by CPS
Lie: They wouldn't apologize for it. You know that is a lie. Therefore
since you lie on this, you will lie about the rest
>
> The fact is, I am a Jewish woman who isn't afraid of thugs like Blakely,
> and that pisses him off.
Ah, the anti-semite card. My wife is half-Jewish, my child 1/4 Jewish.
PsychoSara knows this has nothing to do with her being a "jew".
But she continues to pull that crap all the time in order to gain
sympathy. But yet she is good friends with Doc Tavish, a known neo-nazi,
according to Doc Tavish himself. Meaning she will sell out her Judaism
when it serves her purpose.
--
pat
Sara
Reason <tavishis...@blakely.harrogate.net> wrote:
A lie, of course. You have no idea why we moved to Colorado, or the
time-frame.
>
> >
> > When Mr. Blakely conveniently forgets to add is that we were completely
> > cleared, exonerated, and even apologised to by CPS
>
> Lie: They wouldn't apologize for it. You know that is a lie. Therefore
> since you lie on this, you will lie about the rest
Another lie. In fact, when the investigator showed up at our door, she
said, "Is there someone who is pisssed off at you? This claim sounds
completely bogus, but we have to investigate it. I'M SORRY." And
afterwards, we received a written apology.
>
>
> >
> > The fact is, I am a Jewish woman who isn't afraid of thugs like
> > Blakely,
> > and that pisses him off.
>
> Ah, the anti-semite card. My wife is half-Jewish, my child 1/4 Jewish.
> PsychoSara knows this has nothing to do with her being a "jew".
>
> But she continues to pull that crap all the time in order to gain
> sympathy. But yet she is good friends with Doc Tavish, a known neo-nazi,
> according to Doc Tavish himself. Meaning she will sell out her Judaism
> when it serves her purpose.
>
> --
> pat
>
As you can see, Lisa, Mr. Blakely is completely insane.
The Voice of Reason
Yes we do. You fled to Colorado from Ohio.
You post nearly every single day so it is real easy to see this.
>
>>>When Mr. Blakely conveniently forgets to add is that we were completely
>>>cleared, exonerated, and even apologised to by CPS
>>
>>Lie: They wouldn't apologize for it. You know that is a lie. Therefore
>>since you lie on this, you will lie about the rest
>
>
> Another lie. In fact, when the investigator showed up at our door, she
> said, "Is there someone who is pisssed off at you?
Another lie. My wife does exactly this kind of work and they would not
start by saying that. They take every charge very seriously.
You are a damn proven liar.
> This claim sounds
> completely bogus, but we have to investigate it. I'M SORRY." And
> afterwards, we received a written apology.
False. they do not give out public apologies. You are lying.
Give the name and phone number of the person who signed the apology.
I will have my wife call to get this confirmed.
But we know, you are totally lying so you will refuse to do it.
>
>
>>
>>>The fact is, I am a Jewish woman who isn't afraid of thugs like
>>>Blakely,
>>>and that pisses him off.
>>
>>Ah, the anti-semite card. My wife is half-Jewish, my child 1/4 Jewish.
>>PsychoSara knows this has nothing to do with her being a "jew".
>>
>>But she continues to pull that crap all the time in order to gain
>>sympathy. But yet she is good friends with Doc Tavish, a known neo-nazi,
>>according to Doc Tavish himself. Meaning she will sell out her Judaism
>>when it serves her purpose.
>>
>>--
>>pat
>>
as you can see, PsychoSara is at full tilt and mania tonight.
She attempts to use the anti-semite card to cover up her sexual
perversions (which has been posted many times) and her being
investigated in TWO states for child abuse.
Colorado also according to her own sworn statement in a Lehigh County court.
Sara Salzman is one fucked up human being. Rather Lisa agrees with
sexual sadist like yourself or not does not change the facts.
--
pat
Lisa
tavishis...@blakely.harrogate.net says...
For those who do not know what kind of person Psycho Sara Salzman is:
This published this hoping that young children would read her sadistic
fantasies.
She is married to a man that believes in training her young daughter as a
sexual domme.
And she can't deny a word of it.
From: ssch...@infinet.com Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
Organization: InfiNet
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Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p21.infinet.com
My Master holds the rope just so.
He knows me. Knows my moods. Knows the fear behind my eyes, both real and
imagined.
Those eyes widen as he gently lays the rope down, as he carefully,
methodically, systematically, lays the toys down on the bed.
Soft moans escape from behind gagged lips. I have been told to watch.
To see each and know that soon each will touch me.
He looks up briefly as he lays each down on the bed. Checking reactions.
Watching.
The short whip. A sigh.
The deerskin. The suede.
The small braided thong, the one that stings. A short moan.
The horsehair that stings but never marks.
The canes. The paddles. A pause.
I wait, knowing.
The small velvet bag that holds clamps. Clamps too severe for my breasts,
yet applied anyway.
A gasp. And then his smile.
He knows me. He knows I will take the pain to please him. He knows the
sacrifice I make to his Gods of Pain. He sees the torment in my eyes. The
desire to please. The love. The fear of the pain.
My Master holds the rope just so.
Through his fingers, around my wrists, making delicate rings softer than
steel. Stronger than steel. One on each wrist, a gentle bracelet that is
soon pulled tight, stretched to the bedposts and wrapped tightly. One on
each ankle. No matter how I tighten my muscles as he wraps the rope,
still
it is perfectly tight. The circulation moves.
The ankle does not.
I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts.
But first, two small wooden clothespins bob before my eyes. I turn my
head, remember I am instructed to watch, turn back. The clothespins bite
the delicate flesh of each nipple. Grasp. Sting. Burn. He waits.
My Master knows me. Knows he can whip me, clothespins and all. Knows the
pain, where it will hurt the most, what I can and cannot take.
He waits.
The burning increases as the pins are removed. Ah, he will not whip me
with clothespins in place. But the moment when I was unsure, when the
blood pounded in my temples and the fear covered me like a shroud, then
he
watched my eyes.
The whip falls. Which one is it now? I cannot turn my head to see which
he
reaches for. But I know them all. I arch my back, try to stay still.
My Master knows me. Knows I will hold position as long as possible,
before
the pain forces me to writhe, to turn, to try in vain to shield my
breasts. Knows the moment when I can no longer stay still. And precisely
then, says gently, "Don't move."
My Master holds the rope just so. Gently tugging at the knots, to release
arms and legs from bondage. Gently unwraps each wrist, each ankle. Rubs
each, and kisses the places where the rope has left its mark. The gag is
removed. I swallow.
"Kneel."
I crouch on the bed, head down, ass up, as he mounts the bed behind me.
His hands caress my ass softly, then spank sharply. Slowly, quickly, his
hand falls upon my ass. I wait for the moment, the pain/pleasure as he
will enter me. But not yet. First a gentle tapping, soft touch, as he
marks the place the cane will fall. I brace myself, plead with myself to
hold position, knowing each stroke brings a fire hotter than any flame.
Five strokes. Six. I have not moved. As the pain from each begins to
subside, a soft, half-sob. "Thank you, Master."
Eight. Nine. My knees give out, and I fall to the bed, sobbing. But
immediately back on my knees again. "Thank you, Master."
Ten. I am aware of nothing, save the pain. And his voice, as I am
commanded to orgasm, not from stimulation, not from his fingers or his
cock, but from pain alone. My body responds without hesitation. My
pleasure is screamed out for his pleasure.
Later, I will feel his cock inside me. I will feel the force as he
thrusts
deep into me, bruising the tender flesh with his strength. Later I will
come, and come, and come, but only by his command. Later, we will lie
back, exhausted, as he cradles me in his arms, strokes me gently,
whispers
in my ear.
But not yet.
Now he rises from the bed, returns to the toys so carefully laid out
before
me.
My Master holds the rope just so.
(c) 1994 Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect
PLEASE DO NOT REPOST WITHOUT PERMISSION
As you can see, no where does it mention a child and it comes from the
submissive point of view, not the domme.
Cheers!
Lisa
emailem...@nospamNOSPAM.not says...
Lisa
tavishis...@blakely.harrogate.net says...
Find a shrink, get medicated, and get a freaking life!
Lisa
lunatic he is. :-)
Lisa
Voice of Reason
> Again, your own lawyer did not even dispute the Finding of Fact.
> And Yale Edeiken himself told us the Finding of Fact only applies to you,
> not to David E Michael or Don Ellis because they were not Defendants in
> the
> suit.
Yale Edeiken never told you anything of the sort, Father of Lies
</quote>
Quote from Yale Edeiken
DOES THIS APPLY TO ANYBODY ELSE?
Nope. Not even those, like Ellis and Michael, who are mentioned in the
complaint. Res judicata only applies to people who have had an
opportunity to contest the facts on the merits. Bradbury had that
opportunity and forfeited it; the others have not had that opportunity.
</Quote>
WHY DID YOU LIE AGAIN PSYCHO SARA?
WHY DID YOU LIE AGAIN PSYCHO SARA?
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John Morris
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<p-...@b-lakel-y.harr-o-gat-e.net> wrote:
[snip]
To quote a wise woman: Find a shrink, get medicated, and get a
freaking life!
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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>
> Liberalminded is an oxymoron. Liberals don't have minds!
And you don't seem to use yours to think. Try looking up what the word
"liberal" actually means, instead of relying on the definition that the
religious right (reich) likes push around (which is basically anybody
that disagrees with them must be liberal.) The word "liberal" can
easily be a compliment, not an insult, and I think that calling someone
"liberal" is a compliment, according to the word's real definition.
Mark Sebree
Commissar
"John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
news:2m0ubuccsj9q5vjg4...@4ax.com...
I'M SURE IS DIDN'T COME FROM THAT IDIOT YOU CALL MOTHER.
_Tavish_
The above is an excellent proof that Don Ellis is a psychopathic personality.
Don Ellis is the reason why I stay armed 24 hours a day.
>To quote a wise woman: Find a shrink, get medicated, and get a
>freaking life!
Watch out John and I am very serious- don't get the god damned little bastard
mad at you. You don't want to receive the treatment Sara, Patrick, and I are
getting do you? I can't hardly use either e-mail box anymore on account of his
continually spamming them. No sooner than I submit an UNSUBSCRIBE or REMOVE he's
signed me up for more from other e-mail marketeers and then goes back and signs
me up for what I just had UNSUBSCRIBED or REMOVED. I know first hand
UNSUBSCRIBING and REMOVING and BLOCKS aren't permanent. I only am convinced his
life must be very empty for him to devote many hours to continually harass
people. If Ellis finds out where you live etc. he may post child porn forgeries
such as he's done to me many times and has started doing to Patrick Humphrey to
a much smaller degree. He's much angrier at me than anyone else since I outed
the little bastard back in January 2002!
He keeps calling my residence and hanging up. I have had my unlisted phone
number changed but he posted it the next day. I've had law enforcement etc. to
advise me to even try moving but he'd access the Texas Driver's License database
and get my new address so what's the use? The only way he will be stopped is for
law enforcement to either to finally decide to do their job and if they don't
then anyone of his numerous victims will have to expose him to very forceful
persuasion BUT I doubt if that would even stop him because of his mentally
disturbed outlook on life. You know the only way that the school yard bully is
ever stopped and it is not by paying him off or trying to reason with him..
Scott Bradbury
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Donald Ray Ellis aka Pat Blakely/RevWhite/Mike Kalvatis/Rob Stewart ET AL
108 E. Victory Street
Star City, Arkansas 71667
Tel: (870) 628-1437
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_Tavish_
The best part of you rolled down the crack of your mother's arse and wound up
staining the mattress and even then your mother was your father's sister. They
never could get married so you know what that makes you too! We know how you
hillbillies inbreed and that's why you're a nutcase. I'd bet you're albino too!
Scott Bradbury
Voice of Reason
There is no need to expose him further.
I'm sure he thanks you for your help Scott Bradbury.
Voice of Reason
news:ogkubus8bo9ng5m71...@4ax.com...
Please keep your sexual fantasies & frustrations off this newsgroup.
Children might be reading.
> They
> never could get married so you know what that makes you too! We know how
you
> hillbillies inbreed and that's why you're a nutcase. I'd bet you're albino
too!
Patrick L Humphrey is from Eastern Kentucky. Therefore you must be talking
about him also.
I however, born in Baltimore on W. Baltimore St. All black neighborhood
today.
--
John Morris
Hash: SHA1
In <Z2kv8.61567$XP2.21...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com> in
alt.revisionism, on Wed, 17 Apr 2002 19:30:01 GMT, "Voice of Reason"
<tavishis...@blakely.harrogate.net> wrote:
> <quote>
> "As the step-father of a five year old domme in training" - Charles
> Tucker aka husband of Sara Salzman 4/4/1997 on alt.sadistic and
> alt.torture </quote>
> The words of man who defends this behavior mean nothing.
You falsified the quote to make it appear as if "this behavior" were
occurring. We both know that you falsified the quote. All the
people in the newsgroups you've been bothering with your crossposts
know that you falsified the quote. In fact, it has become pretty
apparent to everyone that you are mentally ill, that you have a big
mouth, and that you have a modem.
But to the point: my words mean everything to you. If they meant
nothing to you, you wouldn't have freaked out and announced to the
world that you would spit in my face if we ever met. If my words
meant nothing to you, you wouldn't have groveled in front of me
wondering how such a smart guy as I am could back the wrong "side."
If my words meant nothing to you, you wouldn't be making long
speeches to me about how you "stand for something" and all that other
tripe you try to convince yourself with.
You and I both know that all I've done is tell you the truth about
yourself. Some day, you'll thank me.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Gord McFee
He should, John, but he won't. He can't.
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Gord McFee
I'll write no line before its time
LiberalMinded
sure goggle keeps forever :
| Liberalminded is an oxymoron. Liberals don't have minds!
I have plenty of minds d00d as I collect them from all the libertarians and
conservatives who say they come to debate in Usenet yet drop what mind they
have in their first reply to me. Looks like I just collected another since
you went right to some sort of lame ass personal attack.
||| -- ------ ----
LiberalMinded
The point is you are beating a dead horse d00d. The only sick person I see
seems to be you since you continue to be obssessed over them. Please seek
help.
|
| Tell me, would you go around the sex newsgroups about sadism and
| torture bragging about training your child as a domme, even if you
| were "just kidding about it"?
I saw one post that said that and it did seem in jest.
|
| When the post were handed over the social workers in Baltimore, they
| viewed it as possible child endangerment. Because it was four years
| ago and the culprit has moved to a different state, prosecution would
| be impossible. However, it documented and if something does come up,
| it can be used.
Social workers can be big fucking fools 2 d00d
|
|
||
|| What I also take from this is that the people talking are in adult
|| realtionships and seem to be doing better than most at keeping the
|| sexual mindset in that realm only. I have known a few who did not
|| seem to have
| the
|| key to turn this on or off at will.
||
|| BTW I take for granted the nyms are who you say they are but why
|| must you drag this in? Do you have some problem with the topic in
|| general?
|
| The topic is Lisa defends little children being trained as sexual
| dommes. That is what the post implies even if he was "just kidding"
The topic has not been proven by anything you have said or posted that she
has said.
|
| You don't kid in sexual newsgroups about training them as sexual
| dommes. No rational parent does this.
and not rational person goes after somebody based on what was said in one
post. You need to understand that a post in some froup is not rl
| --
| Pat
| The truth about Scott "Seig Heil" Bradbury, the past he wants you to
| forget
|
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=ycvr8.10271%242J2.3135329%40typho
on.southeast.rr.com
LiberalMinded
How did ya find your own personal k00k to come and play with you? I am
betting the tale on Voice of Reason goes something like this. Another nym
Voice used came and replied to you and you or others spnaked him so Voice,
with a sore ass, took to bringing you to these other ng's for revenge.
| --
| Lisa - aka adversity
| aa# 2030
|
| Fear is the main source of superstition,
| and one of the main sources of cruelty.
| To conquer fear is the beginning of wisdom.
| Fear Controls Knowledge...Knowledge Controls Fear
| http://www.hutchandlisa.net
| take out nospam to reply by email
Lisa
LiberalMinded
I went over to the ar ng and it seems they specialize in talking shit and
getting spnaked.
| Fear is the main source of superstition,
| and one of the main sources of cruelty.
| To conquer fear is the beginning of wisdom.
| Fear Controls Knowledge...Knowledge Controls Fear
| http://www.hutchandlisa.net
| take out nospam to reply by email
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mhm32x20 Can ya say Meow?
Royal Pain in the Assbasturderr to the Land of Snuh and Meow as well as
Usenet at large.
Tired of Liberalminded? Want to killfile me and all my socks?
liberalmin...@hotSHITmail.com
(Remove SHIT and send me a request for my socks and you will have em)
Lisa
--
Lisa - aka adversity
aa# 2030
Fear is the main source of superstition,
LiberalMinded
I think I have xposted a few times in alt.abortion. The ar ng is really
lame. All I see is people trying to out each other and crazy crap like that
| Fear is the main source of superstition,
| and one of the main sources of cruelty.
| To conquer fear is the beginning of wisdom.
| Fear Controls Knowledge...Knowledge Controls Fear
| http://www.hutchandlisa.net
| take out nospam to reply by email
--