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Nizkor's Ken McVay Spin Doctors for His Masters- The Jews aka Re: The ADL & B'nai B'rith: A Correction

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Dec 20, 2001, 2:54:22 PM12/20/01

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From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: The ADL & B'nai B'rith: A Correction
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:27:03 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9vtahn$r2a$1...@news.tht.net>

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:27:03 +0000 (UTC), <9vtahn$r2a$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:

>In order to check my facts with respect to the ADL's relationship with
>B'nai B'rith, I wrote to the ADL and asked them for clarification.
>
>I explained that I understood that the ADL was no longer a part of
>B'nai B'rith, and this was the response I received:
>
>"What you were told is not exactly correct. There has never been a
>formal separation. Our corporate name is still the Anti-Defamation
>League of B'nai B'rith. ADL has ALWAYS been separately incorporated
>and B'nai B'rith has provided no funds to ADL for many, many years.
>ADL is vastly larger than its parent body in terms of staff and
>budget."

In other words you're saying you're just ignorant instead of being an outright
liar as I exposed you as being with:

http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
(Link active December 20, 2001 for verification)
"Report an Anti-Semitic/Racist Incident 1-800 892-BNAI
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative Initiatives ...."

Now do you wish to retract your claim: "B'nai B'rith was the parent organization
that created the ADL, which has long since severed its ties." in light of what
B'nai Brith says: "Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith ..."?

Now I ask how do you wish to spin doctor the other much more serious lies I
caught you in such as:

From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Followup-To: alt.revisionism
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>

>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
>Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
>>League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who deface,
>>defame and destroy free speech that exposes their smoke-and-magick show.
>>Indeed, BB is collecting information on citizens who post in alt.revisionism
>>and anywhere else articles of an anti-Semitic theme.
>>
>>I'm pointing this out as common knowledge.

You, Ken McVay, proven liar quipped:
>In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai
>Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any
>information whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet. Thank you for
>making that clear.

I answered with all the proof:

How about this?

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=1r8b5ton2fd134nbes57qs0g31nf5j8laj%404ax.com
From: Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@my-deja.com>
Subject: Here Is What Nizkor's PUPPETMASTER ADL Does With Info...
Organization: McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
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Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 10:43:12 GMT

<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>

http://www.adl.org/focus_sheets/focus_overview.html
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification purposes.)

Fighting anti-Semitism and bigotry here and abroad, the Anti-Defamation
League probes the roots of hatred against Jews and serves as a public
resource for government, media, law enforcement agencies and the public at
large. (In other words they are a Gestapo! Doc Tavish)

ANTI-SEMITISM, BIGOTRY, RACISM
ADL is America's prime resource for information on organized bigotry. The
League collects and assesses a vast amount of information on anti-Semites,
racists and extremists. After carefully evaluating information, ADL
disseminates that information through books, periodicals, videos, reports
and other materials. The League also monitors haters in cyberspace.....

<end>

Is not USENET "cyberspace"?

BTW Ken here is proof your masters monitor USENET and in their own words too!

http://www.adl.org/focus_sheets/focus_internet.html
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification)
"HATE ON THE INTERNET
The Internet presents ADL with new opportunities and challenges. With
its information-filled Web site, ADL now reaches more people than ever --
opinion molders, the media, law enforcement...
At the same time, hate groups have taken to the Internet and World Wide
Web to propagandize and proselytize. Anti-Semites and racists are rapidly
expanding their use of the Internet, communicating with each other, preaching to
the vast majority of people who do not share their beliefs, raising funds and
threatening their enemies. ADL monitors and documents hundreds of extremist Web
sites as well as dozens of e-mail mailing lists, newsgroups and chat rooms...."
^^^^^^^^^^

Hey Ken, did you notice your MASTERS used the term "newsgroups"? That kind of
deep sixes your claim of: "you have no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai
Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any information
whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet.." It is so easy to catch you lying for
your MASTERS! Is not USENET the same as newsgroups?

Not only did I prove that you are a G.D. liar but I also showed how you are an
accomplice to B'nai Brith and ADL as I proved here:

(Proof that Ken McVay and his Nizkor are working with B'nai Brith to
spy on people using their freedom to voice their opinions on the internet):

http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/audit-96/audit96.htm
(Link active December 9, 2001)

Presented by
The League for Human Rights of
B’nai Brith Canada

[...]

"The League continues to monitor hate on the Internet and to propose educational
curricula and policy development to regulate, in some way, the transmission of
hateful messages. The League is working closely with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project
(http://www.nizkor.org) through the "Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and
Nizkor have prepared a workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected
Readings to assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a B'nai Brith
Canada web site facilitates the dissemination of information to counter hate and
also provides a means of reporting incidents directly to the National Office."

<end>

Did everyone see who is B'nai Brith's "Gestapo Agent" above?
It is non other than Ken McVay and his Nizkor! Ken McVay goes opposite to what
B'nai Brith said: "[B’nai Brith Canada] continues to monitor hate on the
Internet and to propose.. policy development to regulate, in some way, the
transmission of hateful messages. [B’nai Brith Canada] is working closely with
Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project.." Ken McVay has stated (as shown higher up in this
post: "you have no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai Brith Canada, or
B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any information whatsoever on anyone
posting to UseNet.."

More on Ken McVay being a whore to organizations which align themselves against
free speech and open public debate:

Countering Hate on the Internet: Recommendations for Action
... to a prison sentence of ... a Holocaust denier to speak ... Rights of B'nai
Brith Canada might ... Citron, a Holocaust survivor. The ... The Court sentenced
McAleer ...
www.media-awareness.ca/eng/issues/internet/resource/matas.htm

Excerpt: "Posting to combat Holocaust denial is best exemplified by the Nizkor
project led by Ken McVay. The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith Canada has
a site more general in nature about combatting anti-Semitism. ... Another form
of non-legal response is withdrawal of services. Access to the internet
requires an internet access provider. Internet access providers are commercial
enterprises which are free to offer, or to decline to offer their services to
whomever they want, provided they are non-discriminatory. ... One common
technique for combatting hate speech is approaching those who would provide a
platform for hatemongers and asking them to withdraw the platform. If a
university student organization invites a Holocaust denier to speak on campus,
the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada might ask the organization to
withdraw the invitation, explaining to them who the speaker is and why the
invitation is inappropriate. There is no reason why similar techniques could not
be employed with phone companies and internet access providers. Hate speech
combatants can approach phone companies and internet access providers to ask
them to withdraw their services from hatemongers abusing the services to spread
hatred." <end>

See how Ken McVay and his fellow Neo-Bolshevists seek to deprive people of open
public debate forums and how they seek to have ISPs to drop people who speak
things which they do not like? that is the real ken Mcvay and his Masters as
they truly are! If you cherish open debate and free speech then the "Evil
Trinity" of Nizkor, B'nai Brith, and ADL are your definite enemies!

Back to McVay implying his opposition is not telling the truth but for a fact-
it is McVay who is lying through his teeth!

Nizkor's Ken McVay now challenges:
>Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech." Use
>your free speech to do so.

I now show what Ken McVay's Master B'nai Brith does:

http://bnaibrith.org/pr/brazil2.html
(Link active December 20, 2001 for verification purposes.)

From the World's Largest Jewish Organization
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
B'nai B'rith
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

LANDMARK COURT DECISION CONVICTS HOLOCAUST DENIER IN BRAZIL
Washington, D.C. (November 7, 1996) -- For the first time in Latin America a
Holocaust denier has been found guilty and sentenced to two years in prison. The
landmark decision of the High Court of Justice in the southernmost Brazilian
state of Rio Grande do Sul reversed a lower court ruling and resulted in the
conviction of Siegfried Ellwanger on grounds that he violated the nation's
constitution and penal code.

The president of B'nai B'rith in Brazil hailed the decision. "Holocaust deniers
such as Ellwanger seek to encourage racial and religious divisions that are not
compatible with our democratic society," said Abrao Lowenthal. B'nai B'rith
along with other Jewish groups in Brazil brought Ellwanger to trial.

Because Ellwanger had no previous criminal record the court waived his prison
sentence and ordered him to perform three years of community service and ordered
him to stop publishing his racist material. Under the ruling, Ellwanger's books
will be confiscated and banned. Ellwanger, who writes under the name "S.E.
Castan," has written or published 13 anti-Semitic books in Portuguese including
the infamous The Elders of the Protocols of Zion and Henry Ford's The
International Jew. One of Ellwanger's books is titled The Holocaust: Jewish or
German."

The Jewish community of the state of Rio Grande do Sul, which brought the case
to court, was pleased with the verdict. According to their attorney Helio
Santana, a B'nai B'rith member, "Ellwanger has denied the existence of
concentration camps as well as the numbers of people who died at the hands of
Nazis and their collaborators. He tried to twist reality by stating that the
Holocaust was a big lie."

Rio Grande do Sul is one of the wealthiest states in Brazil. It is home to a
sizeable German population and has been the scene of persisting neo-Nazi and
skinhead activities. There are 12,500 Jews in the state, mostly in the capital.
Ellwanger, who is Brazilian-born, is part of a racist, separatist movement which
wants the state to secede from Brazil in order to isolate itself from other
ethnic groups in the country.

B'nai B'rith International President Tommy P. Baer, a lawyer based in Richmond,
Virginia, hailed the decision. "This critical legal decision has important
ramifications for Brazil and all of Latin America. By punishing this hatemonger,
Brazil is working to meet a standard of decency which will not tolerate bigotry
and hatred."

The world's oldest and largest Jewish organization, B'nai B'rith has members in
56 countries including Brazil and others throughout Latin America.

<end>

The above was quoted in full too!

Did everyone see how B'nai Brith was pushing for a prison term in relation to:
"[T]he court waived his prison sentence and ordered him to perform three years
of community service and ordered him to stop publishing his racist material.
Under the ruling, Ellwanger's books will be confiscated and banned. Ellwanger,
who writes under the name "S.E. Castan," has written or published 13
anti-Semitic books in Portuguese including the infamous The Elders of the
Protocols of Zion and Henry Ford's The International Jew. One of Ellwanger's
books is titled The Holocaust: Jewish or German."

Mere words and books will get you a criminal prosecution in many countries at
the behest of B'nai Brith as their own words stated: "For the first time in
Latin America a Holocaust denier has been found guilty and sentenced to two
years in prison. ... The president of B'nai B'rith in Brazil hailed the
decision. "Holocaust deniers such as Ellwanger seek to encourage racial and
religious divisions that are not compatible with our democratic society," said
Abrao Lowenthal. B'nai B'rith along with other Jewish groups in Brazil brought
Ellwanger to trial."

SO WHAT? A man denied the "Holocaust" and printed some books! SO WHAT!?
Jews deny that Christ exists- should we not press for laws dealing with "Christ
Denial" and in turn have them prosecuted?

These people are dangerous to free speech and do not ever forget it!
As for some real bigotry just look at my sig line and what all it reveals!

Doc Tavish

---
"We are not allowed to drink any wine or grape juice, or any drink containing
wine or grape juice, which has been touched by a non-Jew after the seal of the
bottle has been opened." <http://www.kashrus.org/kosher/supervis.html>
Information taken from: Is it Kosher, Rabbi E. Eidlitz and Spice and Spirit,
The Lubavitch Women's Cookbook Publications (December 15, 2001)

BTW that link also says this about "non Jews":

"Pat Yisrael- It is preferable to use pat Yisrael products whenever possible.
This means that a Jewish person has baked or assisted in the baking of the
products. Even if he simply lit the oven he is considered as having assisted.
Non commercial bread and cake that is completely baked by an individual non Jew
is called pat akum and may not be eaten."

"Bishul Yisrael - Certain foods which were completely cooked by a non Jew
(bishul akum) may not be eaten, even if the foods are kosher and are cooked in
kosher utensils."

"Food which is usually not eaten raw, and which was prepared for consumption
entirely by a non Jew, is not permitted even if cooked in kosher utensils. Such
food is called Sisal akum. If a Jew assists, such as only by lighting the flame,
the food is not fishy akum and may be eaten."

Can everyone imagine the outrage by the left if Whites were to have "traditions"
such as shown above? How would this go over based on the passage quoted above:
"Food which is usually not eaten raw, and which was prepared for consumption
entirely by a non White, is not permitted even if cooked in kosher utensils.
Such food is called Sisal akum. If a White assists, such as only by lighting the
flame, the food is not fishy akum and may be eaten."?

Funny how some people can be "supremacist."

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On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:54:22 -0600, <2td42uosdf5sjgpra...@4ax.com>
Fraud Watch wrote:

>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>Subject: The ADL & B'nai B'rith: A Correction
>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:27:03 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Message-ID: <9vtahn$r2a$1...@news.tht.net>
>

>How will Ken McVay spin doctor the other much more serious lies I caught him in:

>
>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
>Followup-To: alt.revisionism
>Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
>
>>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
>>Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
>>>League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who deface,
>>>defame and destroy free speech that exposes their smoke-and-magick show.
>>>Indeed, BB is collecting information on citizens who post in alt.revisionism
>>>and anywhere else articles of an anti-Semitic theme.
>>>
>>>I'm pointing this out as common knowledge.
:
>You, Ken McVay, proven liar quipped:
>>In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai
>>Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any
>>information whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet. Thank you for
>>making that clear.

and from the same post:

>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,

>Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> also wrote:
>>B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
>>League .... defame and destroy free speech that exposes their smoke-and-magick show

You, Ken McVay, challenged:

>Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech." Use
>your free speech to do so.

New material which takes the place of previously presented material:

From YOUR own web site McVay is this pretty well slam dunks your challenge:

"Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech."

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/press/vancouver-sun.980408.html
The Vancouver Sun
April 8, 1998

BC tel asked to cut off net Nazis' connection
William Boei, Sun Business Reporter Vancouver Sun

[...]

Fairview hosts a group of national and international "hate sites.."
... The propaganda they spread on the Internet rarely fails to get a rise from
Jewish and anti-racist groups. This time, a Winnipeg-based branch of the B'nai
Brith's League for Human Rights and Vancouver's Canadian Anti-Racism Education
and Research Society are asking BC Tel to cut off Fairview's network connection
to the Internet. ... Ken McVay, a British Columbian who runs the Nizkor Project,
a massive on- line archive that documents and refutes ... <name calling is not
refuting> ... McVay has been fighting hate speech on the Net for six years,
compiling archives <files on private citizens>, offering to establish links
between hate sites and Nizkor's Web site, and responding to virtually every hate
post that appears on the Internet's Usenet section <personal attacks are not
valid responses>. ... "My whole agenda is to try and remove their market, as it
were," McVay said. "They have an agenda to sell. If, by demonstrating that they
are lying <you're the one who has been caught lying!!> about a specific issue, I
can remove a few hundred people from their potential market place, then I've
done them some harm." ... B'nai Brith, incidentally, covers both ends of the
anti-Net-Nazi spectrum. It is asking BC Tel to sever Fairview from the Net, and
it collects donations for the Nizkor Project."

Comments between < and > were mine!

Regarding: "B'nai Brith, incidentally, covers both ends of the anti-Net-Nazi
spectrum. It is asking BC Tel to sever Fairview from the Net.." I thought McVay
claimed (as shown above): "Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy
free speech." but as we all know- McVay knows who butters his bread so he bows
before his masters: " B'nai Brith, incidentally ... collects donations for the
Nizkor Project." What does that tell you all sports fans? McVay is a "kept
whore."

-------

http://people.brandeis.edu/~anti-defamation/committee/Hillel_monitoring.html
Do Your Student Members Want to Help ADL Fight Hate on the Internet?

As a vehicle for spreading hate, the Internet is more powerful than anything
extremists of past decades could have imagined. Using the World Wide Web,
electronic bulletin boards, chat rooms and E-mail, anti-Semites and racists
voice their ideas, hoping to recruit new supporters. Bigots also employ the
Internet to communicate with each other. Often, extremists invade the space of
unsuspecting Internet users to spread their message. Propagandists send
unsolicited E-mail messages to thousands, post off-topic messages to USENET
newsgroups, and seek to dominate the bulletin boards at mainstream Web sites.

What can be done about hate on the Internet? Practically and legally, combating
online extremism is enormously difficult. ADL does not believe that censorship
is the answer, supporting the free speech guarantees embodied in the First
Amendment of the United States Constitution. Believing that the best way to
combat hateful speech is with more speech, ADL continuously monitors and
documents Internet hate. By communicating its findings, ADL promotes public
awareness of the plans and history of online bigots. It is the League's view
that exposure will lead to rejection of haters and their propaganda.

THE ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE IS SEEKING STUDENT MEMBERS OF HILLEL WHO ARE
INTERESTED IN HELPING US MONITOR HATE ON THE INTERNET.

If your students are interested, all they need is a computer with Internet
access and the desire to volunteer time. Volunteers can monitor the Internet on
their own, wherever and whenever they choose. Information collected by
volunteers will be transmitted to ADL via E-mail using the attached "ADL-Hillel
Online Hate Reporting Form." Student volunteers will receive confirmation when
their reports are received and a special, periodic newsletter on the state of
hate online.

The Anti-Defamation League is requesting that volunteers monitor
publicly-available information on the Internet only. We are particularly
interested in finding out about threats of action, announcements of upcoming
events, specific information about extremist individuals, written attacks on
well-known Jewish institutions or individuals, bigoted comments on current
events, and links to new hateful Web sites. Particular areas of the Internet
that are of concern to us are Web-based chat rooms and discussion boards,
Internet Relay Chat rooms, and USENET newsgroups. As appropriate, some
volunteers may be asked to look at specific chat rooms, bulletin boards, or
USENET newsgroups in addition to general monitoring duties. ... Combating hate
on the Internet is a daunting task. Despite this, we must find a way to respond.
You and your students can play an important part by helping ADL. Please contact
us today! <end>

I thought Nizkor's Ken McVay claimed that his masters don't monitor USENET which
his statement: "[Y]ou have no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai Brith

Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any information whatsoever on
anyone posting to UseNet."

The above "LIE" is from this post:

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=9ureg9%241c70%2...@news.tht.net&hl=en

From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR

Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>

I now ask- how many lies have I exposed Nizkor's Ken McVay in so far in this
series of posts?

http://www.models-research.ie/publications/art/99-6.html
... Usenet newsgroups such as alt.politics.white-power offer an opportunity to
recruit new members. Postings from newcomers can be followed up with contact by
direct email to encourage the newcomers to feel part of the racist community.
... However, neo-nazis visiting a newsgroup need not engage in the conflict;
they can just post messages asking for sympathisers to contact them directly by
email. ... Using email, they are out of the limelight and safe from sanction by
other Internet users. ... A number of voluntary organisations, such as
Hatewatch, the Simon Wiesenthal Centre and the Anti-Defamation League (ADL),
monitor and document hate activities on the Internet. <end>

BTW "neo-nazi" is applied to everyone who resists the ADL, B'nai Brith, Nizkor
and all the left wing Jews.

http://www.adl.org/presrele/ASUS_12/2609_12.asp
"[A]nti-Semites and racists are using the Internet to recruit new members, get
their message out and open new channels of communication among sympathizers, a
report just released by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) reveals. Hate Group
Recruitment On the Internet shows how extremists are exploiting the technology
of the Internet, including the World Wide Web and USENET, to attract supporters
... the ADL leaders said. "The message is clear: we must monitor it..."

Looks like Mcvay is failing miserably at trying to cover his master's agenda!
Re,memebr Mcvay has stated (as detailed above): ""[Y]ou have no evidence

whatsoever that anyone at B'nai Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is
collecting any information whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet."

How about this ADL page content?

http://www.adl.org/mwd/m1.htm
". Important! More and more people are erroneously coming to think that all
information can be found on the World Wide Web. It cannot. Although there are a
number of members of the militia movement active in Usenet ..." <end>

The ADL gives out some of the militia links and people they monitor!
If you are "militia" these devils most likely have a file on YOU!

More on how people are being "spyed" on by Jews:

http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/anti-semitism/internet.html

Usenet newsgroups-on-line community discussion bulletin boards-also contribute
to the proliferation of publicly visible anti-Semitic hate on-line. Anyone with
access can read and send messages to the newsgroups. To read or post messages to
a group, the user simply uses the newsreader program provided by most Internet
services. The number of messages posted to the newsgroups is staggering; upwards
of 60,000,000 a year and growing! Considering these numbers, it is not
surprising that tens of thousands of anti-Semitic rants show up each year and
1996 was no exception. Unlike the World Wide Web, where the user must seek out a
site, haters on the Usenet can send their messages, unsolicited, to any group.
... Some groups such as alt.politics.nationalism.white or alt.revisionism are
specifically designed to provide a discussion area for bigots and anti-Semites.
Here one finds the traditional themes of anti-Semites: deicide; Jews in control
of banks, the government and the media; Jews as destroyers of culture. A newer
wrinkle is the claim that the Holocaust is a fiction-a Jewish/Zionist plot to
extort money and power.
... Newsgroup hate messages are more like anonymous phone calls or letters that
can be sent simultaneously to hundreds or thousands of people. (To be consistent
with past practice, the ADL Audit counts such simultaneous hate messages as one
incident.) ... <end>

All links shown above are active December 20, 2001-- Be sure to verify all the
content before these malignant devils pull their content!

Is everybody beginning to see the overall picture now? I surely hope so!

More to come-- I promise!

Doc Tavish

--
Double standards exposed by Tom Moran
"Jews running around the United States in a frenzy demanding that
Christian symbols not be displayed on public lands is not
anti-Christianism. Ridiculing the Jews for running all around the
United States demanding that Christian symbols not be displayed is
"anti-Semitism". Now that is typical Jewishness." Tom Moran 12/20/2001
Message-ID: <3c4802fc....@newsproxy.pacificnet.net>

Fraud Watch

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Dec 20, 2001, 9:17:20 PM12/20/01

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:54:22 -0600, <2td42uosdf5sjgpra...@4ax.com>
Fraud Watch wrote:

>How will Ken McVay spin doctor the other much more serious lies I caught him in:

and from the same post:

>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,

You, Ken McVay, challenged:

>Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech." Use
>your free speech to do so.

New material which takes the place of previously presented material:

From YOUR own web site McVay and this pretty well slam dunks your challenge:

"Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech."

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/press/vancouver-sun.980408.html

[...]

-------

his previous statement declared: "[Y]ou have no evidence whatsoever that anyone

at B'nai Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any information
whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet."

The above "LIE" is from this post:

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=9ureg9%241c70%2...@news.tht.net&hl=en

From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR

Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>

I now ask- how many lies have I exposed Nizkor's Ken McVay in so far in this
series of posts?

BTW "neo-nazi" is applied to everyone who resists the ADL, B'nai Brith, Nizkor
and all the left wing Jews.

Looks like Mcvay is failing miserably at trying to cover his master's agenda!

Remember McVay has stated (as detailed above): ""[Y]ou have no evidence

whatsoever that anyone at B'nai Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is
collecting any information whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet."

How about this ADL page content?

T-a-v-i-s-h

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Dec 31, 2001, 9:42:58 AM12/31/01

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:54:22 -0600, <2td42uosdf5sjgpra...@4ax.com>
Fraud Watch wrote:

>How will Ken McVay spin doctor the other much more serious lies I caught him in:

and from the same post:

>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,

You, Ken McVay, challenged:

>Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech." Use
>your free speech to do so.

New material which takes the place of previously presented material:

From YOUR own web site McVay and this pretty well slam dunks your challenge:

"Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech."

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/press/vancouver-sun.980408.html

[...]

-------

his previous statement declared: "[Y]ou have no evidence whatsoever that anyone

at B'nai Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any information
whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet."

The above "LIE" is from this post:

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=9ureg9%241c70%2...@news.tht.net&hl=en

From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR

Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>

I now ask- how many lies have I exposed Nizkor's Ken McVay in so far in this
series of posts?

BTW "neo-nazi" is applied to everyone who resists the ADL, B'nai Brith, Nizkor
and all the left wing Jews.

Looks like Mcvay is failing miserably at trying to cover his master's agenda!

Remember McVay has stated (as detailed above): ""[Y]ou have no evidence

whatsoever that anyone at B'nai Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is
collecting any information whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet."

How about this ADL page content?

Coward Shiff Watch

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Jan 7, 2002, 3:45:47 PM1/7/02

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:54:22 -0600, <2td42uosdf5sjgpra...@4ax.com>
Fraud Watch wrote:

>How will Ken McVay spin doctor the other much more serious lies I caught him in:

and from the same post:

>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,

You, Ken McVay, challenged:

>Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech." Use
>your free speech to do so.

New material which takes the place of previously presented material:

From YOUR own web site McVay and this pretty well slam dunks your challenge:

"Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech."

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/press/vancouver-sun.980408.html

[...]

-------

his previous statement declared: "[Y]ou have no evidence whatsoever that anyone

at B'nai Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any information
whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet."

The above "LIE" is from this post:

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=9ureg9%241c70%2...@news.tht.net&hl=en

From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR

Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>

I now ask- how many lies have I exposed Nizkor's Ken McVay in so far in this
series of posts?

BTW "neo-nazi" is applied to everyone who resists the ADL, B'nai Brith, Nizkor
and all the left wing Jews.

Looks like Mcvay is failing miserably at trying to cover his master's agenda!

Remember McVay has stated (as detailed above): ""[Y]ou have no evidence

whatsoever that anyone at B'nai Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is
collecting any information whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet."

How about this ADL page content?

^.^

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Jan 17, 2002, 2:13:01 AM1/17/02

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:54:22 -0600, <2td42uosdf5sjgpra...@4ax.com>
Fraud Watch wrote:

>How will Ken McVay spin doctor the other much more serious lies I caught him in:

and from the same post:

>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,

You, Ken McVay, challenged:

>Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech." Use
>your free speech to do so.

New material which takes the place of previously presented material:

From YOUR own web site McVay and this pretty well slam dunks your challenge:

"Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech."

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/press/vancouver-sun.980408.html

[...]

-------

his previous statement declared: "[Y]ou have no evidence whatsoever that anyone

at B'nai Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any information
whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet."

The above "LIE" is from this post:

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=9ureg9%241c70%2...@news.tht.net&hl=en

From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR

Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>

I now ask- how many lies have I exposed Nizkor's Ken McVay in so far in this
series of posts?

BTW "neo-nazi" is applied to everyone who resists the ADL, B'nai Brith, Nizkor
and all the left wing Jews.

Looks like Mcvay is failing miserably at trying to cover his master's agenda!

Remember McVay has stated (as detailed above): ""[Y]ou have no evidence

whatsoever that anyone at B'nai Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is
collecting any information whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet."

How about this ADL page content?

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