Yes, Chuck, Jews Were Soviets (and had beaten to death with rods other people and had them thrown into prison)

Doc Tavish

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On 16 Apr 1998 19:22:31 GMT, chuck...@aol.com (ChuckF2323) wrote:

> tavish wrote
>>I thank you once again for helping me prove my point about the Soviets
>>actually being *Jerws Mark!
>>
>> Doc Tavish
>
>CF:>>>>>>let's all chip in a buy tavish a spellchecker.

Looks like you need one yourself. You "said" below:
"True communinism.."

BTW I have one on order and it is one that is supposed to work with
all my applications.

>hey, tavich, you commie pinko pretending to be a good guy, no where in the
>world are Jews all commies, and no where in the world are all commies Jews.

I know there are Chinese commies, Cuban commies just as there were
French Nazis, Norwegian Nazis but just as Nazism came from Germany-
Communism came from Jews and unlike Nazism which is dead- the Jewish
legacy of Communism lives on!

>When we get right down to it, no human in recorded history has ever lived under
>"true" communism, as the theory intended. True communinism would not have a
>dictator, as so-called communist countries had and some still have.
>Theory-wise, it is a good idea, it won't work because evil men always seize
>power. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutley.
>Therefore the so-called communist "experiment" failed 100%.

There are many still seeking to perfect what you call a failed
experiment and they are getting their recruits at many of our
universities!

Here is proof:

http://suze.ucs.usl.edu/~jfg0701/

Welcome To Jack Gillis' LSEC-Web

[LSEC= Liberal Socialist Elite Commentary]

...where, you'll be able find a good number of essays, chock-full of
humor, angst, truths, sarcasm and humility.

*NEW* January 15, 1998. Finally updated. (Almost) Regular weekly
updates have resumed.

Jack Gillis is a Ph.D. Candidate/Graduate Assistant at the University
of Southwestern Louisiana. He is also a Liberal columnist for The
Vermilion, USL's weekly newspaper.

His own words from his essays:

Liberal Socialist Elite Commentary <<< The Title to look for!

Jack Gillis

Liberal Socialist Elite Commentary

For those of you who may not be aware because you have
not visited my web page, the above headline is the official
title of this column, inspired by an accusation laid against
in these pages by my favorite correspondent, Jon Malamakis.
Strangely, the strongest objections I've had to that title
have come from the Liberal/Left, particularly my Dad, coming
as he does from the Old School of New Deal/Organized Labor
liberalism, who argues "that word scares Americans."

"I know, Dad," I wearily explain in a tone not unlike
the one most of you probably used when your Dad tried to
explain the birds and the bees to you three years after you
already figured it out one way or the other, "But it
shouldn't."

Americans need to grow up and understand that--
espcially since the collapse of Soviet Communism--Socialism
isn't a dirty word; in fact, it's essential to such social
projects as protecting the enviroment, educating the young
and providing the mobility that Americans value so highly,
either mass transit in the urban areas, highways in the
rural areas, or both in the suburbs.
Unless we on the left are honest about our methods and
arguments we are going to get continually slaughtered by the
right utilizing the legend of American rugged individualism.
When Truman proposed Medicare and LBJ passed it, Republicans
such as Ronald Reagan screamed 'Socialized Medicine!' and we

Gillis--2

all shrank away in denial, when in fact, it WAS socialized
medicine, but more importantly, it worked!"
All of which is by way of introduction. I studied
political economy as an undergraduate, and have continued
reading about it in the periodicals geared towards the
general but well-read audience, mainly but not exclusively
the market-oriented publications like the "National Review."
And there have been times, I admit, when grave bordering on
fatal doubts have crossed my mind considering the validity
of Democratic Socialism: is it a sustainable political
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
economic model? Are Robert Novak and Steve Forbes correct
about Capital Gains taxes? Is Speaker Gingrich by chance
correct about the inherent destructiveness of social
spending? Have I been wrong all along?
Then, just about the time I've decided to switch sides
and go backstab my colleague to the right and take his job
as conservative pundit--it never fails--something happens
that makes me slap my forehead with the heel of my hand and
say, "Doh! Now I remember why I'm a Democratic Socialist."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Now for another university that is educating (recruiting):

http://pages.nyu.edu/clubs/socialists/

An organization for democratic socialist activism at
New York University

Socialists at NYU is a vibrant group of individuals who study or teach
at NYU. We are united by the desire for a society in which all people
can enjoy democratic control over all aspects of their life, and an
equal opportunity to have meaningful social and economic
relationships. We are active and visible on the NYU Campus and in our
community.

[Notice: "Socialists at NYU is a vibrant group of individuals who
study or TEACH at NYU." Tavish]

Look at what is being taught on campus!

http://pages.nyu.edu/clubs/socialists/guide.html

Introduction to Socialists at NYU

Socialists at NYU is an all-campus club involved in political action
from a democratic socialist perspective. This club is for students and
faculty at NYU who want to participate in our educational and activist
work.

[Notice again: "This club is for students and faculty at NYU who want
to participate in our educational and activist work." The faculty is
involved! What else needs to be said!?!?! Tavish]
......................................................

Chuck many of our colleges have communist filth in them teaching our
youth their leftists Marxist swill and I see the results all the time
in USENET!

Your Jews are very active in this activity too! Sooner or later
society will demand an accounting for all the subversive treachery
being waged on our shores!

Here is my proof on who spreads socialism:

http://x5.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=334362382
"Israel's Birth Tied With Soviet (Jewish) Union"
:
http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=335040369
"Savior of Israel was the Soviet Union so says Alex Bittleman"

http://x8.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=327634787
"Yiddishist Socialist - Used to Propagate Socialism!"

Excerpt from above:

http://www.jewishculture.org/jcn/F95-2.htm

LOST IN HISTORY

A Stanford graduate student attempts to find how socialism, Yiddish,
and American Jewish history fit together.

Between 1890 and 1924, Eastern European immigration to the U.S.
created a poor but vibrant Jewish community heavily indebted to
Yiddish culture and socialist politics imported from the old country.

On the surface, explains Stanford Ph.D. candidate Anthony Michels,
that community bears little resemblance to our own - for the most part
an affluent, English-speaking, assimilated group. But in fact, he
says, both communities were faced with "a large degree of openness,
which afforded us and them the possibility of doing what we wanted
to."

The main difference between then and now, he continued, "is that
because we are so assimilated we have less to work with than they did.
In Yiddish those who rebelled against their upbringing were called
apicoris (heretics]. But most of us don't even know enough to be
heretics."

Michels, whose Ph.D. dissertation in history is entitled "Yiddish
Culture, Socialist Politics and the Shaping of Immigrant Jewish
Identity in America, 1890-1924," is one of seven graduate students to
receive a 1995-1996 Doctoral Dissertation Fellowship in Jewish Studies
from the National Foundation for Jewish Culture.

A fluent Yiddish speaker and reader after years of study, the Northern
Californian is attempting to uncover a lost history of American Jewish
life, one that he says should be understood in its own context, as
well as studied for clues as to how Jewish communities in flux--like
our own--create new identities for themselves.

Why is this a lost chapter in American Jewish history? According to
Michels, in part because the influence of radical politics has been
excised by later Jews who saw it as incompatible with post-War
assimilation, growing affluence, and even the religious tradition
itself.

"Socialism has been perceived as a hostile and alien element,
associated with communism, and one that only serves to hurt the
religious tradition," explains Michels, who has been a lecturer at
Temple Beth Torah in Fremont, California. "But I'd like to argue that
socialism had a huge impact on Jewish life that's not so clear
anymore. Look at the way in which it changed Yiddish culture, the
mores and values as well as its literature and its cultural
institutions." Michels began his academic career studying American
labor politics at the University of California at Santa Cruz. As his
interest in Judaism began to grow, he started taking courses in
Yiddish and reflecting on American Jewish history, eventually
combining his interests in a doctoral program in history at Stanford
University. Michels believes that the American Jewish community is now
secure enough to see its past in a less "sanitized" fashion and own up
to the "brutal and grubby aspects of life at that time, as well as the
bright side of things."

"We're comfortable enough now, and American enough, not to have to
worry about saying that we were also criminals," he said about a
Jewish history that includes its share of gangsters and prostitutes.
"Now we can write books about it. Now we have to."
................................

[...]

Social Movements: Bund
Brief bibliography of Yiddish sources

http://sunsite.unc.edu/yiddish/Bibliog/bund-yi.html

Bund info:

Lucy S. Dawidowicz
THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS 1933-1945 by Bantam Books Incorporated
(#13084-6, 1979 ed).

[Jewish Labor] Bundists were cut off from contact with Polish
Socialists....... Dawidowicz further states on page 363: "The Bund
historically held the Marxist view of society in conflict...."

Also concerning the Bund in Poland:
In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
824-827).

.......................................................................................

http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=229955013

Subject: Re: Workman's Circle
From: sim...@bu.edu (Simcha Streltsov)
Date: 1997/04/01
Message-ID: <5hrqos$k...@news.bu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish

Harry Weiss (hjw...@netcom.com) wrote:

: The workmen's circle was big in the early twentieth century. It was
: a group of Yiddish speaking socialist/communist anti religious
: Jews.
: --

I visited their building in Brookline, MA. As expected they lost
their fever significantly, there are several old people walking
around, several ads in English/ Yiddish. Nothing anti-religious,
nothing socialist, nothing of any interest to scj readers ...

I always wonder what would the socialist Yiddishist writers of the
beginning the century would say if they would be able to compare
current workmen circle and a nearest Orthodox shul - all of them were
describing a dying Jewish religion - some laughing, some with a
certain sympathy, like Sholom Aleichem, but all convinced that this
world is dying. [in fairness, you did not have to be a socialist to
have this sentiment at those times ]

Simcha Streltsov, _Former_ Adar Rabbi of S.C.Soviet
-------------------------
please, only Kosher lePesach homentashen
all others will be returned unopened.

p.s. This sig expired, but nobody have sent me real
homentashen anyway
......................................................

Remember Chuck you are actually guilty of collaboration with
socialists/communists and making apologia for them!

>Pictures at 11:00
>
>CF
>
>
>Chuck Ferree

When you get a web site that honours the victims of Jewish Communism
then I will visit it!
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Gunther Schiller

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On 17 Apr 1998 00:15:06 GMT, i...@global.plantation.org (ZOG) wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:00:00 GMT, Doc Tavish <doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>Communism came from Jews and unlike Nazism which is dead- the Jewish
>>legacy of Communism lives on!
>

>And christianity came from Jews also! D'oh!
>
>The Torah is the first five books of the same bible used by christians!
>The last supper was a Passover seder!
>Jesus was a Jewish political agitator!
>
>Oy Vay! "Doc," what's a hypocritical, dead-from-the-neck-up bigot such
>as yourself to do???

I have never denied that. There is a difference between someone that
has no choice over what race he or she is born in (as in the case of
Jews) and a group of people that are obnoxious as a habit. This is
what differentiates a Jew from a common Kike. I quote Israel Shahak
who is a Jew BUT I do not see him as a Kike! Whether you care to admit
it or not Jews did exist in Nazi era Germany that were not harassed!

Proof:

http://x2.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=319215837

[...]

Bill Burton:
>You don't know the majority of Jews. In fact you may not know any.

Me:
I know the ones on USENET and most of them I wouldn't fart in their
face if they were in need of artificial respiration.

Me again:
>> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle

Bill Burton again:
>Amazing. Blame Hitler on the Jews? What a laugh. And I thought Stalin was a
>reach.
>No, there were no Jews in Hitler's inner circle. Pure non-sense.

Wanna bet o' clueless one? You are damned good at running your mouth
and offering your opinion, along with your undocumented uses of the
telephone BUT I have my facts together!

http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html

This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
he was a specialist in aerial photography--

>>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.

Bill Burton in denial again:
>Specific example. Pure fantasy. Please make something up

You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
book The War Against The Jews.

Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].

* April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
* ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
deportations."]
____________________________

Or how about this?

Hitler's Jewish Army

"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
speaking of World War Two.

"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.

Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
knowledge and approval.

Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."

[ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]

In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.

One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.

One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
widely in Germany in the 1930s.

In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
Aryan.''

Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.

Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
whose father was a Jew.

Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).

So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?

Sources:

William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
Times, Dec. 24, 1996.

Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.

Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html

Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html

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BTW You never told me how tall you are and if you had any blemishes on
your upper torso! :-)

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On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:22:01 GMT, doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com
(Gunther Schiller) wrote:

>On 17 Apr 1998 00:15:06 GMT, i...@global.plantation.org (ZOG) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:00:00 GMT, Doc Tavish <doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>>Communism came from Jews and unlike Nazism which is dead- the Jewish
>>>legacy of Communism lives on!
>>
>>And christianity came from Jews also! D'oh!
>>
>>The Torah is the first five books of the same bible used by christians!
>>The last supper was a Passover seder!
>>Jesus was a Jewish political agitator!
>>
>>Oy Vay! "Doc," what's a hypocritical, dead-from-the-neck-up bigot such
>>as yourself to do???

>I have never denied that. There is a difference between someone that
>has no choice over what race he or she is born in (as in the case of
>Jews) and a group of people that are obnoxious as a habit. This is
>what differentiates a Jew from a common Kike.

Proof that I have said more or less the above long ago:

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=255162470
Subject: One Jew and One Toadie Corrected About Anti-Christs.
(Classic Informative Repost Contained Herein.)
From: Doc Tavish <tav...@spam.not.net>
Date: 1997/07/06

[...]

Avital replied:
> > > Why, yes, I summoned a devil yesterday. Why do you ask?

> > Tavish replies:
> > There is only one Devil but there are many anti-Christs (and kikes too).

[Tavish adds: (7/6/97) the original post is below intact and it will
show my use of the word kike in its full context.]

Klaus Günther Beck butts in:
> Well, read Your bible again. There is only one Antichrist.

Herr Beck, I once corrected one of yours before and I see that he
heeded my "instruction!"
My instruction to Van Alstine (12/18/1996):

From DejaNews archives:

http://xp5.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=4190301
Subject: Re: A Nazi replies to a War Criminal
From: Doc Tavish <"tav...@phoenix.net"@phoenix.net>
Date: 1996/12/18
Message-Id: <59ak3v$orm$1...@uhura.phoenix.net>

Mark Van Alstine wrote:
>
> In article <59a210$lkk$1...@uhura.phoenix.net>,
> "tav...@phoenix.net"@phoenix.net wrote:
>
> > Mark Van Alstine [ the chosen one ] wrote:
Ah yes, the pure light of the truth propagated by the sickest
motherfucker the world has ever known.

Tavish replied:
[More choice words from the chosen ones. Jews]

Van Alstine slanders:
> > > Ah, Mr. Smith is just torqued 'cause he found out his mother used to swim
> > > after Allied troopships....

Tavish replied:
[The mentally deficient can only assault character because they are
devoid of ideas.]

<SNIP>

Tavish replied:
[The anti-Christ Jews are always branding others as anti-Semites that
disagree with them- hence my use of anti-Christ.]

Van Alstine greatly errs:
> So speaketh a craven and puerile Nazi hatemonger.
>
> Btw, biblically, speaking, the anti-Christ is a singular being- Satan -and
> not the Jews, you cretin.

Tavish corrects the errant arrogant Pharisee:
[The bible says:" ...just as you have heard that the antichrist is
coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists." 1 John 2:18
Who is really the cretin o' Pharisaic antichrist? Doc Tavish sticking
it in Satan's minion.] Doc Tavish exposing the Jews own ignorance and
lack of compassion. See how Jews really are lurkers? Am I now
eliminating any of your doubts?

Tavish had said:
> > You and your Kremlin brethren cannot control yourselves and you are losing it
> > when all you can do is name call and make insinuations.

Van Alstine in reply:
> Pot. Kettle. Black. Nazi bumboy.

From DejaNews archives (notice the date):

http://xp8.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=4038981
Subject: Re: 970408: Partisans
From: mvan...@rbi.com (Mark Van Alstine)
Date: 1997/06/02
Message-Id: <mvanalst-020...@rbi142.rbi.com>

In article <338FBC...@nbnet.nb.ca>, lone...@nbnet.nb.ca wrote:

> Fafner13 wrote:
> >
> > Remember: They only smear the ones they fear.
> >
> > And, yes, Yale, you are an anti-Christ.
>
> *An* anti-Christ? There's more than one?

Biblically speaking, yes. Though the word is generally "antichrist" as
in:

"Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that
antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we
know that it is the last time." (KJV, 1 John 2,18.)

Tavish adds (7/6/97):
Hmmmh, it looks like Van Alstine at least listen to what I told him
about how many anti-christs there are way back when I told him in
December 1996!

The meaning of "antichrist" in this context can be found in:

"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is
antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son." (KJV, 1 John 2,22.)

This, of course, is not generally thought of as _the_ antichrist (or
anti-Christ) -i.e. Satan, the Devil, Abaddon, the great dragon etc.

Mark

Tavish adds admiringly:
Will you show the sense and humility of Herr Van Alstine in this
instance Klaus or do you wish to commence calling me names as you have
been inclined to do? (7/6/97)

[...]

Original post restored below; the post with just Avital and I in it:

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=254566366
Subject: Re: Shavuot Pogrom: "Nazis, Christians, Whores and
Goyim"
From: Doc Tavish <tav...@spam.not.net>
Date: 1997/07/04
Message-ID: <33BD21...@spam.not.net>

Avital Pilpel wrote:
>
> Doc Tavish wrote:
>

> > Tavish replies:
> > Did not our Lord say that all of his disciples should strive to be as
> > their master?
>
> what about those of us, like me, who do not believe in god, Tavish? Am
> I going to hell?

Tavish replies:
Each person will have to make their own personal accounting to God.
You won't be able to have a Jewish lawyer with you. :-) "So, then,
each of us will render an account for himself to God." Romans 14: 12

> > > well, what's wrong with killing jesus, may I ask, in your opinion?
> > > One kike less is always a good thing.

> > Tavish replies:
> > You, by your reply, made the distinction as whether you are a Jew or a
> > kike.

> er... whatever, Tavish. I see: all the jews are kikes, _except_ for
> Jesus&co. Well, go figure.

Tavish replies:
Many of the original Christians were Jews, in fact they were the first
Christians and a man named Cornelius became the first baptized
Christian Gentile. See Acts chptr 10 for his story. The Apostle Paul
was a kike before he was on the road to Damascus and he harassed
greatly the believers. He repented of his Pharisaic devilments and was
no longer a kike.

~~~~~~~ End of Archival Posting ~~~~~~~~

How does that suit you ZOG? Notice all the dates? I do call a kike a
kike and there are many of the filth infiltrating this ng!

Back to my other remarks:

Doc Tavish

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On 17 Apr 1998 03:31:11 GMT, i...@global.plantation.org (ZOG) wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:22:36 GMT, Gunther Schiller <doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>Jews) and a group of people that are obnoxious as a habit. This is
>

>Oh, you mean like bigoted ary*n twits...

>
>>who is a Jew BUT I do not see him as a Kike! Whether you care to admit
>>it or not Jews did exist in Nazi era Germany that were not harassed!
>

>Whether you care to admit it or not, your religion is an outgrowth
>of Judiasm, and ary*ns are guilty of practically everything that
>they bitch about when pissing and moaning about Jews!

Whether you care to admit it or not- you don't know my religion. I
have said before that I was formerly a Jehovah's Witness but I haven't
stated that I am anything else otherwise. Just because I defend
Gentile Christians doesn't make me necessarily a Christian any more
than when I defend Palestinians would make me a Palestinian.

BTW How tall are you and do you have any significant blemishes on your
upper torso? :-) (I don't think that you are a waste of skin like
you say: "ary*ns are a waste of skin")

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On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:30:43 -0400, allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan
Matthews) wrote:

>Here is Comrade Sonofvitch Matthewski The Red making apologia for all
>the Neo-Socialism/Marxism that infests our university system. Note
>that I provide proof that proves contrary his personal attacks and
>smear.
>
>http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=318544175
>Subject: Re: University of Minnesota & Its Communist Party USA
>Sympathy
>From: allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan Matthews)
>Date: 1998/01/23
>Message-ID: <MPG.f3219231...@news.shore.net>
>
>Once again, "Sieg Heil" Scottie, frothing at the mouth about
>"Communists," fails to distinguish between official University of
>Minnesota policies and a web page that isn't even on a University
>server.
>
>This is exactly the same sort of crap Scottie spewed when he found a
>Marxist page on a student web server at MIT and laughably declared it
>"proof" that MIT is a Marxist indoctrination facility.

http://x2.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=311322335
Subject: January class seties at MIT
From: f...@psfc.mit.edu (Felix Kreisel)
Date: 1997/12/30
Message-ID: <mt2.0-1291...@vera.kvalito.no>
Newsgroups:
alt.politics.socialism.trotsky,mit.bboard,soc.politics.marxism

The New World Disorder: a Marxist Perspective

[...]

At the end of 20th century the insoluble contradictions of
capitalism are reasserting themselves: firstly, the contradiction
between the globalization of the world economy and the system of
individual nation-states; secondly, the conflict between, on the one
hand, the need for a democratic plan to manage the natural resources
of Earth and to develop the social resources of humanity, and, on the
other hand, the system of private property with its cruel, market
driven laws.
These contradictions are now pushing mankind into a convulsive era
of wars and revolutions. We shall provide a Marxist analysis of the
factors shaping our world and see how to resolve the crisis of
revolutionary leadership in the working class.

Jan. 7: World economy in crisis: prelude to a new world war.
Jan. 14: Economic and social crisis in America.
Jan. 21: Russia: from Stalinism to capitalist barbarism.
Jan. 28: Socialism: what it is and what it isn't.

Wednesdays, 6 PM, room 8-105, on the Infinite Corridor
MIT - IAP Classes sponsored by F. Kreisel, 253-8625
--
==========================================================
Felix Kreisel, Systems Engineer Internet: f...@psfc.mit.edu
Plasma Science & Fusion Center, MIT Phone: 617-253-8625
190 Albany St. Cambridge, MA 02139 Fax: 617-252-1808
===========================================================

~~~~~~~ End of Archival Posting~~~~~~~~~~

I just wonder how long Commie Boy Allan Matthews will be able to stay
in USENET without being completely laughed out. Comrade Matthews, do
you still stand by your heckling of me when you brayed (like an ass):
>This is exactly the same sort of crap Scottie spewed when he found a
>Marxist page on a student web server at MIT and laughably declared it
>"proof" that MIT is a Marxist indoctrination facility. ?

Tavish

To see who the official poster boy
for NAMBLA is- open or click this link:
http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=246998327

Doc Tavish

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On Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:38:23 -0400, allan_m...@bigfoot.com
(Comrade Sonofvitch Allan Matthewski The Red) wrote:

[...]

>It also would seem that "Sieg Heil" Scottie has switched from calling his
>detractors sexual deviants and homosexuals to calling them Marxist-
>Leninists (how else to interpret his now common "Comrade" epithet?). But
>then, it is highly unlikely that a moron and 6th grade drop-out like
>"Sieg Heil" Scottie here even knows what a Marxist-Leninist is. As usual
>he's just desperately grabbing for a new, interchangeable label to smear
>his detractors with because he can't actually rationally respond to their
>critiques of his ridiculous, hateful, dishonest spew.
>
>Well, Scottie, I hate to disappoint you but I'm not a Marxist-Leninist
>and I never have been. Nor has any of the rather amusing stuff you've
>posted shown otherwise. Of course that won't stop you from lying and
>repeating this libel. Afterall, we've seen in the past that you have no
>compunction against repeating accusations, libels and forgeries you know
>are not true.

Lurkers look below and I will show you who this "Red" calls "Good
Guys" at his web site NOT unless the gutless socialist changes it
before you all get to verify the contents. I will provide the links
and "navigational points" and you all go see for yourselves if Comrade
Sonofvitch Matthewski has Marxist/Socialist sympathies. Just look
below his sig line below.

>allan
>--
>=========================================
> allan_m...@bigfoot.com
>=========================================
>"Eat shit, choke on it and die"
> -"Sieg Heil" Scottie showing what passes
>for rational debate in his "mind"

I still say that the above is a most excellent suggestion and judging
by the way you behave I can reason that you have eaten it before!
Why? You are what you eat! :-)

>=========================================
> www2.shore.net/~matthews/
>=========================================

Now for Comrade Sonofvitch Matthewski's sympathy:

http://x5.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=335428368
"I Know Who Supports Socialists Now! This Explains Why Allan Matthews
Likes the Propagators of Socialism So Much!"

Now I know why Allan Matthews was so upset that I ran the series on
Socialist Political Activism in American Universities! He's
sympathetic to Democratic Socialists of America! Yes, it is true!

Go to his home page:
http://www2.shore.net/~matthews/

Click the "My Links":
<http://www2.shore.net/~matthews/my-links.html>
and then click "Political"
<http://www2.shore.net/~matthews/my-links.html#Political>

You will see: Political & Social - Good Guys. Notice the picture on
the right. A rose in a clenched hand. This is the symbol of the
Democratic Socialists of America whom Allan Matthews has listed
among his "Good Guys!"

I did a post on these people a while back and here it is in full so
all of you can see what group of unAmerican people Comrade Matthews
calls "Good Guys."

http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=317766144
"Democratic Socialists of America Revisited (For Your Files!) (3)"

THE UNDERMINING OF OUR AMERICAN CONSTITUTION
Agenda and list of unAmerican activists in the U.S. House of
Representatives. This post is fully documented and verifiable. You are
doing yourselves a great disservice if you do not read all and follow
the links.
Herr Tavische

http://www.dsausa.org/dsa/index.html

"The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) is the largest socialist
organization in the United States, and the principal U.S. affiliate of
the Socialist International (also in Francais and Espanol). DSA's
members are building progressive movements for social change while
establishing an openly socialist presence in American communities and
politics."

[Socialist International http://www.gn.apc.org/socint/contents.html ]

In this web site you can find out more about DSA, its politics,
structure and program. DSA's political perspective is called Where We
Stand. It says, in part (scroll down on main page):

"We are socialists because we reject an international economic order
sustained by private profit, alienated labor, race and gender
discrimination, environmental destruction, and brutality and violence
in defense of the status quo."

"We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane international
social order based both on democratic planning and market mechanisms
to achieve equitable distribution of resources,meaningful work, a
healthy environment, sustainable growth, gender and racial equality,
and non-oppressive relationships."

"To forge a new American politics DSA has launched the Campaign for
Economic Justice. The Campaign for Economic Justice has three central
tenets:

*economic justice and security require first, that corporations and
the wealthy pay their fair share, and second, that every American
deserves a living wage and benefits for the work s/he does;
*all Americans - men and women of all races, ages, sexual orientations
and beliefs - must receive just and adequate rewards for their work;
*Americans must work with others around the world to ensure that
everyone receives a living wage and to guarantee that corporations do
not exploit people or the planet."

[Please take special note again of what was said and its ultimate
implications. DSA did state:

1) "We are socialists because we reject an international economic
order sustained by private profit,...."

2) "We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane
international social order based both on democratic planning and
market mechanisms to achieve equitable distribution of
resources,...."

3) "*Americans must work with others around the world..."

[This is international communism and it is nothing else! G.S.]

Here is the Progressive Caucus in Congress (Part of Democratic
Socialists of America)

On the main page after scrolling down some, you will see:

"DSA is working with the Congressional Progressive Caucus, a network
of more than 50 progressive members of the US House of
Representatives."

The leadership of this Caucus is:

http://www.dsausa.org/dsa/pc/pc.html

Executive Commitee
Rep Bernard Sanders (VT-AL), Chair
2202 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Phone: 202-225-4115, Fax: 202-225-6790
bsan...@hr.house.gov

[...] Others may be idendified by clicking the link above.

The ring leader is a socialist Jew! Bernie Sanders is a Jew and he is
the leader of fifty some odd other socialists in our congress. Verify
Sanders is a Jew B'nai B'rith:
http://bnaibrith.org/pan/105congress2.html
Jewish Members of the 105th Congress (House):
Hon.Bernie Sanders(I-VT)

The complete list as indicated with the "clickable" at the bottom of
the list above is:

http://www.dsausa.org/dsa/pc/pc.members.html

Members of the Progressive Caucus

[...] Click the link above to see who the other infiltrators are!
.....................................................

From this same very site we can access some good ol' Democratic
Socialist "Fighting Songs." Please note the link does not leave the
DSA web site! (I'll bet that Muscovite Sonofvitch Matthewski sings
these ditties with his other Neo-Marxist/Socialists!]

From the main page you would click on the "Resources & Links"
http://www.dsausa.org/dsa/rl/rl.html
at the left hand side of the main page and once in there click on
SONGS http://www.dsausa.org/rl/Docs/Songs.html
to see such beauties as:

Red Revolution

(to the tune of "When the Red, Red Robbin, Comes Bob, Bob Bobbin
Along" author: Ruy Texeira, Madison DSOC and/or Rick Kunnes, former
NAM Organizational Secretary 1979-1981)

When the Red Revolution
Brings Its Solution
Along, Along

There'll be no more lootin'
When we start shootin'
That Wall Street throng

Wake up you proletarians
Don't act like seminarians
Expropriate Barbarians
Build a Workers' Republic

Exploitation and Degradation
You Won't Find Here
Surplus Value and Capital Will Disappear

I'm Just a Red again,
Saying what I've said again,
When the Red Revolution... da, da, da, da
Brings Its Solution...da, da, da, da, da
A long

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Are You Sleeping, Bourgeoisie

Traditional American song, sung in rounds to the tune of "Frere
Jacques".

Are you sleeping, Are you sleeping,
Bourgeoisie, Bourgeoisie,
And when the revolution comes,
We'll kill you all with knives and guns,
Bourgeoisie, Bourgeoisie

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bourgeoisie, Bourgeoisie, See How They Run

Usually sung in rounds after "Are You Sleeping, Bourgeoisie". Sung to
the tune of "Three Blind Mice".

Bourgeoisie, Bourgeoisie,
See how they run,
See how they run

And when the revolution comes,
We'll kill them all with knives and guns,
Bourgeoisie, Bourgeoisie

------------------------------------------------------------------------

This Land is Your Land

- Woody Guthrie

This Land is Your land, this land is my land
From California to the New York Island
From the redwood forest to the Gulf Stream waters
This land was made for you and me

As I was walking that ribbon of highway
I saw above me that endless skyway
I saw below me that golden valley
this land was made for you and me

I've roamed and rambled, and followed my footsteps
To the sparkling sands of her diamond deserts
And all around me, a voice was sounding
This land was made for you and me

When the sun came shining, and I was strolling
And the wheatfields waving, and the dust clouds rolling
As the fog was lifting, a voice was chanting
This land was made for you and me

One bright Sunday morning in the shadows of the steeple
By the relief office, I seen my people
As they stood there hungry, I stood there whistling
this land was made for you and me

I've roamed and rambled, and I've followed the beer cans
To the toxic cities, from the poisoned farmlands
And all around me, were billboards reading
This land was made for you and me

As I was walking I saw a sign there
And on that sign it said "no trespassin'"
But on the other side it didn't say nothin'
That side was made for you and me

[Notice when Communist sympathizer Guthrie sings:
"As I was walking I saw a sign there
And on that sign it said "no trespassin'"
But on the other side it didn't say nothin'
That side was made for you and me"

He is actually referring to the abolition of Private Property!
Nice stuff huh? Gunther Schiller]

---------------End of Songs (There are More)-----------

To see what DSA really endorses as "politics" click on:
http://www.dsausa.org/rl/Docs/Lingo.html

You'll see a picture of Lenin and what DSA calls Socialist Ideologies.

Here is what they call socialist:

俵topian, Communitarian Socialism
柊narchism
匹ommunism, Marxism << Comrade's "Good Guys!"
百ocial Democracy
彦abianism
筆arxist-Leninism
謬rotskyism
筆aoism
百chactmanism I
百chactmanism II
髭uro-Communism
逼ew Left

[Remember that DSA did make the claim: "DSA is working with the
Congressional Progressive Caucus, a network of more than 50
progressive members of the US House of Representatives."]

Click on http://www.gn.apc.org/socint/dofpeng.html
to see what the world agenda is for these "socialists."

You'll see such gems as:

V. Shaping the Twenty-First Century

Political and Economic Democracy

57. Human rights include economic and social rights; the right to form
trade unions and to strike; the right to social security and welfare
for all, including the protection of mothers and children; the right
to education, training and leisure; the right to decent housing in a
liveable environment, and the right to economic security. Crucially,
there is the right to both full and useful employment in an adequately
rewarded job. Unemployment undermines human dignity, threatens social
stability and wastes the world's most valuable resource.

60. The democratic socialist movement continues to advocate both
socialisation and public property within the framework of a mixed
economy.

69. Recent years have seen a new surge of feminist consciousness, both
within and outside the socialist movement, leading to the emergence of
one of the most important social movements of our time. In part, the
renewal of feminism occurred as the women of the most advanced welfare
States came to realise that, despite the progress made in many fields,
they were still often relegated to subordinate positions in
occupational and political structures.

VI. With the Socialist International Towards a Democratic World
Society

The Unity of International Socialism

92. At a time of rapid internationalisation, the goals of democratic
socialism cannot be attained in just a few countries. The fate of
people living in many different parts of the world is more interlinked
than ever before. The various socialist parties of the world must
therefore work together, both in their individual national interest
and in their common international interest.

A New Democratic Order

97. The international challenge is nothing less than the beginning of
a new, democratic world society. We cannot allow blocs, nations and
private corporations to shape the political structure of the planet as
a mere by-product of their own self-interest.

98. Strengthening the United Nations is an important step in the
creation of this new, democratic world society. Where there is a
consensus among the major nations, significant peace-making and
peace-keeping initiatives are possible. The UN specialised agencies,
like the WHO, and UN organs like UNDP and UNICEF, have demonstrated
that the governments and citizens of various nations can work
effectively together in pursuit of common international goals.

99. It is unrealistic to assume that justice and peace can be
legislated in a world of fundamental inequality where many millions
barely cling to life while a favoured few enjoy a standard beyond the
dreams of most of their fellow human beings. Socialist struggles in
the original capitalist nations made gains in welfare and solidarity,
which in turn made the extension of democracy possible in individual
countries. Likewise the work of abolishing international inequality
will be a crucial step forward on the road to a democratic world
society.

* * * * * * *

I now only ask the logical question- What is the greater danger to the
Free World- Nazism or Communism/Socialism? Or should I have asked- How
many open Nazis are in the American Congress compared to how many open
Communists/Socialists are in the American Congress?

Wake up America! These people have not one regard for The
Constitution. Their "Constitution" is The Communist Manifesto!

Xref: http://x5.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=344731024
"Comrade Matthews Imitates His "Good Guys" - Smear the One Exposing
Your Subversive & Communistic Agenda"

Must sees:

http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=318691499
"University of Connecticut & On Campus Socialists"
Promotes Democratic Socialists of America

http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=318673737
"JAMES MADISON UNIVERSITY Server serves
YOUNG DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS"

http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=207542653
"Your Future is at Stake" (Early post showing the people behind
socialism.)

Here is Comrade Sonofvitch Matthewski's atheistic Communistic spew on
religion and notice that he is quoted in precise context!

For all the lurkers out there here is Allan Matthews speaking on his
religious beliefs in his own words. Read what he says and see if he
has any grounds to pass judgment on anyone:

http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=227538010
Subject: Re: Why does "tavish" refuse to answer these questions?
From: amat...@cybercom.net (Allan Matthews)
Date: 1997/03/22
Message-Id: <5guc38$1hs$6...@lator.cybercom.net>

In article <333166...@phoenix.net>, tav...@phoenix.net wrote:

>Tavish replies in regards to his remark that for Buddhists Buddha=God:
>Then who do they call God? Enlighten all of us please.

[Allan Matthews boldly declared:]
God? What would we want with a God?

---------END--------

How about this more recent example in which he says
"silly 'god' stuff" and shows again his true nature?

http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=291994342
Subject: Re: Why is John Brown homophobic?
From: allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan Matthews)
Date: 1997/11/23
Message-ID: <MPG.ee2a6b72...@news.shore.net>

In article <19971123203...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
rwhit...@aol.com says...
>>From: allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan Matthews)
>>Message-id: <MPG.ee19212a...@news.shore.net>
>>In article <880211...@augur.demon.co.uk>, Cae...@augur.demon.co.uk
>>says...

>>>Why is John Brown homophobic?
>>
>>I don't think he is. I think he's closeted himself.

> GOOD GOD< MAN!

Keep your silly "god" stuff to yourself, Booby.

<snip>

allan

~~~~ End of Allan Matthews' Spiritual Qualifiers~~~~~

Looks pretty Marxist to me. Didn't one of them thar lil' commienist
faggeets say: "Religion is the opiate of the people" in a most
disrespectful way?

Need I say more?
Doc Tavish
Daily Exposing Communist Vermin

Doc Tavish

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On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:32:39 GMT, doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc
Tavish) wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:30:43 -0400, allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan
>Matthews) wrote:
>
>>Here is Comrade Sonofvitch Matthewski The Red making apologia for all
>>the Neo-Socialism/Marxism that infests our university system. Note
>>that I provide proof that proves contrary his personal attacks and
>>smear.
>>
>>http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=318544175
>>Subject: Re: University of Minnesota & Its Communist Party USA
>>Sympathy

>>From: allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan Matthews)

Here is a post regarding MIT Professor Felix Kreisel (I wonder if
Comrade Matthews knows him?):

http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=337162653
Subject: Re: <apst> in a bar
From: David Stevens <phyls...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: 1998/03/24
Message-ID: <6f8bl1$r...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.socialism.trotsky

Marxist Workers' Group wrote:
>
> I would like to meet Scoot Solomon ...
>
> for about 30 minutes, while he watches me raze Cranbrook to turn it into
> low-income housing.
>
> After that, I figure he'd need a drink.
>
> Jim

Jim, can you provide clues for us to whom "Cranbrook"
is just a British Columbian lumber town of 15,000 souls
near the borders of Idaho and Alberta?

> Scott Solomon wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > maybe 5 minutes in a bar: Kreisel
> >
> > maybe 10 minutes in a bar: I.M. Martin

That shows the grip of post-Healy Healyism on a mind
diseased by the North cult. Mr. Solomon chooses as
one of his "apst" representatives Felix Kreisel, who
hasn't posted to this forum during the two years I've
been reading it. Then, Scoot ignores all of our
delightful trans-Atlantic correspondents merely to
hang with Ichabod Mike Martin, Mr. "Nolo Contendere"
on behalf of North thuggery.

This shows that Scott Solomon hasn't really broken
from the cultic SEP. Dave North claimed that they were
Leninists; even to this day, Scoot believes them.

- David Stevens

~~~~ End of Archival Post ~~~~~

Now what was big mouth Matthews braying about MIT?

>>This is exactly the same sort of crap Scottie spewed when he found a
>>Marxist page on a student web server at MIT and laughably declared it
>>"proof" that MIT is a Marxist indoctrination facility.

----

Doc Tavish

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to

On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:32:39 GMT, doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc
Tavish) wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:30:43 -0400, allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan
>Matthews) wrote:
>
>>Here is Comrade Sonofvitch Matthewski The Red making apologia for all
>>the Neo-Socialism/Marxism that infests our university system. Note
>>that I provide proof that proves contrary his personal attacks and
>>smear.
>>
>>http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=318544175
>>Subject: Re: University of Minnesota & Its Communist Party USA
>>Sympathy
>>From: allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan Matthews)
>>Date: 1998/01/23
>>Message-ID: <MPG.f3219231...@news.shore.net>
>>
>>Once again, "Sieg Heil" Scottie, frothing at the mouth about
>>"Communists," fails to distinguish between official University of
>>Minnesota policies and a web page that isn't even on a University
>>server.
>>
>>This is exactly the same sort of crap Scottie spewed when he found a
>>Marxist page on a student web server at MIT and laughably declared it
>>"proof" that MIT is a Marxist indoctrination facility.

Here is solid proof that MIT has Marxist activity!

http://x9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=262838892
Subject: Re: Father Gapon - 1905 Bloody Sunday
From: f...@psfc.mit.edu (Felix Kreisel)
Date: 1997/08/07
Message-ID: <fjk-070897...@cpsidfw.flash.net>

In article <s.meric-3007...@cpsidfw.flash.net>,
s.m...@merde.ix.netcom.com (Polar) wrote:

> What happened to Father Gapon, who led the peaceful
>demonstration through the streets of St. Petersburg in 1905 to the
>Winter Palace, to petition the Tsar for reforms. After the
>massacre, he disappeared. It was alleged that he was an agent
>provocateur, and other stories floated around.

[moderator note - quoted sig file deleted. Dave]

Gapon began his political career as an organizer in the so called
"Police labor unions" started by the infamous Petersburg police chief
Zubatov. Gapon's political naivete led him into heading this yellow
labor movement much further that the tzarist police expected, namely,
to head the protest demonstration on January 9th, 1905. After the
bloody suppression of the demonstration by the gendarmes, Gapon was
shocked into radical socialist politics. With the help of a Socialist
Revolutionary, Rutkovsky, he escaped abroad and throughout 1905 tried
to bring the various Russian socialists: Bolsheviks, Mensheviks, SRs,
together into a joint socialist movement. His efforts were not
successfull, he returned to Russia and again resumed contacts with the
tzarist Okhrana. The same SR, Rutkovsky, shot him on
March 28, 1906.

Felix Kreisel
--
- - - - - - - - -
Iskra Research -- Historical research and publication of Russian
language Marxist classics. 3 paperbacks by Leon Trotsky published so
far: Predannaia revolutsiia; Permanentnaia revolutsiia; V zaschitu
marksizma.
*** NEW item: Electronic "Russian Marxist Glossary" is on-line. ***
Address: PO Box 397142, Cambridge, MA 02139-7142; e-mail: f...@mit.edu

http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/fjk/iskra.html

~~~~~~ End of Archival Posting ~~~~~~

Opening the link he just gave:

http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/fjk/iskra.html

We get:

Politics of Iskra Research

We stand in political support of the International Committee of the
Fourth International and its American representative, the Socialist
Equality Party.
Iskra Research is very proud to publish the on-line version of the
quarterly journal of the Cheliabinsk (Russia) Buro of the ICFI (in
Russian).

For miscellaneous articles by F. Kreisel on various political,
economic and historical subjects, please click here: Political essays

To promote our politics the director of Iskra Research, Felix Kreisel,
teaches classes on Marxism at his place of work at MIT during the
January Independent Activities Period. IAP class schedules

The Marx - Engels Archive at University of Colorado is a repository of
works in English by the founders of scientific socialism as well as by
V. Lenin, L. Trotsky and other Marxists.

[Comrade Matthews seeks to ridicule and heckle me buy saying:

>>This is exactly the same sort of crap Scottie spewed when he found a
>>Marxist page on a student web server at MIT and laughably declared it
>>"proof" that MIT is a Marxist indoctrination facility.

See how subversives operate? Tavish]

Consider this now:

http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=346045813
Subject: MIT Marxist Apologist Matthews Speaks - #2 (supplement)
>Comrade Matthews Denies His Communistic/Socialist Sympathies BUT The
Evidence Condemns Him!<....
From: doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc Tavish)
Date: 1998/04/20
Message-ID: <353b8283....@news.tavish-central.net>

[...]

What is this then Comrade?

[...]

Doc Tavish

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On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:32:39 GMT, doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc
Tavish) wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:30:43 -0400, allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan
>Matthews) wrote:
>
>>Here is Comrade Sonofvitch Matthewski The Red making apologia for all
>>the Neo-Socialism/Marxism that infests our university system. Note
>>that I provide proof that proves contrary his personal attacks and
>>smear.
>>
>>http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=318544175
>>Subject: Re: University of Minnesota & Its Communist Party USA
>>Sympathy
>>From: allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan Matthews)
>>Date: 1998/01/23
>>Message-ID: <MPG.f3219231...@news.shore.net>
>>
>>Once again, "Sieg Heil" Scottie, frothing at the mouth about
>>"Communists," fails to distinguish between official University of
>>Minnesota policies and a web page that isn't even on a University
>>server.
>>
>>This is exactly the same sort of crap Scottie spewed when he found a
>>Marxist page on a student web server at MIT and laughably declared it
>>"proof" that MIT is a Marxist indoctrination facility.

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=153980448
Subject: Marxist Glossary in Russian on the Web
From: f...@pfc.mit.edu (Felix Kreisel)
Date: 1996/05/09
Message-ID: <fjk-090596...@news.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.socialism.trotsky

Iskra Research is pleased to announce a significant addition to our
Web site dedicated to the recent celebration of May 1st, the
International Labor Day and to May 9th, the Day of Victory over
fascism.

We have added an extensive electronic document in Russian: The Marxist
Glossary. A sample of some of the entries in this Glossary is appended
to this letter as a KOI-8 encoded text document. The Glossary should
be read with a Web browser properly configured to read Russian texts.

Our address is below. Happy holidays,

[message ended at DejaNews archives. Tavish]

~~~~~ End of Archived Text ~~~~~

The Holiday that the Marxist MIT Prof is talking about is the ol' Red
Square May Day celebration that all good commienists observe!

Doc Tavish

unread,

Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98

to

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:30:43 -0400, allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan
Matthews) wrote:

>Here is Comrade Sonofvitch Matthewski The Red making apologia for all
>the Neo-Socialism/Marxism that infests our university system. Note
>that I provide proof that proves contrary his personal attacks and
>smear.
>
>http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=318544175
>Subject: Re: University of Minnesota & Its Communist Party USA
>Sympathy
>From: allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan Matthews)
>Date: 1998/01/23
>Message-ID: <MPG.f3219231...@news.shore.net>
>
>Once again, "Sieg Heil" Scottie, frothing at the mouth about
>"Communists," fails to distinguish between official University of
>Minnesota policies and a web page that isn't even on a University
>server.
>
>This is exactly the same sort of crap Scottie spewed when he found a
>Marxist page on a student web server at MIT and laughably declared it
>"proof" that MIT is a Marxist indoctrination facility.

http://x2.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=311322335

[...]

I just wonder how long Commie Boy Allan Matthews will be able to stay
in USENET without being completely laughed out. Comrade Matthews, do
you still stand by your heckling of me when you brayed (like an ass):

>This is exactly the same sort of crap Scottie spewed when he found a
>Marxist page on a student web server at MIT and laughably declared it

>"proof" that MIT is a Marxist indoctrination facility. ?

Tavish

Doc Tavish

unread,

Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98

to

[...]

>=========================================
> www2.shore.net/~matthews/
>=========================================

http://www.dsausa.org/dsa/index.html

[Socialist International http://www.gn.apc.org/socint/contents.html ]

http://www.dsausa.org/dsa/pc/pc.html

http://www.dsausa.org/dsa/pc/pc.members.html

Red Revolution

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Are You Sleeping, Bourgeoisie

------------------------------------------------------------------------

- Woody Guthrie

Political and Economic Democracy

A New Democratic Order

Must sees:

---------END--------

From: allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan Matthews)
Date: 1997/11/23
Message-ID: <MPG.ee2a6b72...@news.shore.net>

In article <19971123203...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
rwhit...@aol.com says...
>>From: allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan Matthews)
>>Message-id: <MPG.ee19212a...@news.shore.net>
>>In article <880211...@augur.demon.co.uk>, Cae...@augur.demon.co.uk
>>says...

>>>Why is John Brown homophobic?
>>
>>I don't think he is. I think he's closeted himself.

> GOOD GOD< MAN!

Keep your silly "god" stuff to yourself, Booby.

<snip>

allan

~~~~ End of Allan Matthews' Spiritual Qualifiers~~~~~

Looks pretty Marxist to me. Didn't one of them thar lil' commienist
faggeets say: "Religion is the opiate of the people" in a most
disrespectful way?

Need I say more?
Doc Tavish
Daily Exposing Communist Vermin

----

Doc Tavish

unread,

Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98

to

On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:32:39 GMT, doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc
Tavish) wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:30:43 -0400, allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan
>Matthews) wrote:
>
>>Here is Comrade Sonofvitch Matthewski The Red making apologia for all
>>the Neo-Socialism/Marxism that infests our university system. Note
>>that I provide proof that proves contrary his personal attacks and
>>smear.
>>
>>http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=318544175
>>Subject: Re: University of Minnesota & Its Communist Party USA
>>Sympathy

>>From: allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan Matthews)

>>Date: 1998/01/23
>>Message-ID: <MPG.f3219231...@news.shore.net>
>>
>>Once again, "Sieg Heil" Scottie, frothing at the mouth about
>>"Communists," fails to distinguish between official University of
>>Minnesota policies and a web page that isn't even on a University
>>server.
>>
>>This is exactly the same sort of crap Scottie spewed when he found a
>>Marxist page on a student web server at MIT and laughably declared it
>>"proof" that MIT is a Marxist indoctrination facility.

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=206915925
Subject: IAP classes: Restoration of capitalism in ex-USSR
From: f...@mit.edu (Felix Kreisel)
Date: 1996/12/30
Message-ID: <fjk-ya023580003...@news.mit.edu>

Restoration of capitalism in
the former Soviet Union

It has been over a decade since the accession to power of Mikhail
Gorbachev and the turn of the Soviet bureaucracy to the policy of
dismantling the so called "socialist" economy. Five years ago the
collapse of the Soviet Union put an end to the remnants of the
non-capitalist regime which was established by the October Revolution
in 1917. We shall examine the economic, political and social
developments currently taking place in the republics of the former
Soviet Union, trace the historical roots and draw the lessons of
mankind's first attempt to build a socialist society.

Wed, Jan. 8th, 6 -- 7 pm; conditions in Russia today.
Collapse and destruction characterize the former Soviet economy
subjected to the full weight of international capitalist competition.
The bourgeois social regime is taking the countries of the former
Soviet Union back to asiatic barbarism and fascism.

Wed, Jan. 15th, 6 -- 7 pm; 1917 in its historical context.
The Russian Revolution -- the first step of the world socialist
revolution.

Wed, Jan. 22nd, 6 -- 7 pm; the revolution betrayed.
The Soviet Union -- neither capitalist nor socialist, but a
contradictory society in transition.

Wed, Jan. 29th, 6 -- 7 pm; Marxism versus Stalinism.
Was there an alternative to Stalinism? Leon Trotsky's legacy and
Marxism today.

Recommended reading: Leon Trotsky, The Revolution Betrayed;
and http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/fjk/iskra.html#ARTICLES

Classes held on Wednesday evenings, 6�m, room 8-105

Please contact Felix Kreisel f...@mit.edu or at 253-8625 for further
questions.

--
- - - - - - - - -

Iskra Research -- Historical research and publication of Marxist
classics in the Russian language. 3 books by L. Trotsky published so

far: Predannaia revolutsiia; Permanentnaia revolutsiia; V zaschitu
marksizma.
*** NEW item: Electronic "Russian Marxist Glossary" is on-line. ***
Address: PO Box 397142, Cambridge, MA 02139-7142;
e-mail: f...@mit.edu
http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/fjk/iskra.html

~~~~ End of Archival Post at DejaNews~~~~

Now what has has Marxist Allan Matthews been slandering me with? Here
are the Marxist Sonofvitch's own words! Notice all he does is name
call but he provides absolutely no evidence!

http://x10.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=318544175

Subject: Re: University of Minnesota & Its Communist Party USA
Sympathy

From: allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan Matthews)
Date: 1998/01/23
Message-ID: <MPG.f3219231...@news.shore.net>

Once again, "Sieg Heil" Scottie, frothing at the mouth about
"Communists," fails to distinguish between official University of
Minnesota policies and a web page that isn't even on a University
server.

This is exactly the same sort of crap Scottie spewed when he found a
Marxist page on a student web server at MIT and laughably declared it
"proof" that MIT is a Marxist indoctrination facility.

Perhaps "Sieg Heil" Scottie feels a strong need to castigate academic
institutions so as not to feel quite so bad about his being a sixth
grade dropout.

In article <34c792b1...@news.smart1.net>,
doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com says...
>FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN DUPED INTO THINKING COMMUNISM IS DEAD

Given that Communism is an idea, how could it be dead? How do you
kill an idea, Scottie? Of course, given that Scottie has never
actually had any ideas of his own, this misunderstanding on his part
is quite understandable.

>http://global-reach.com/cp-minn/index.html

Hmmmm... The title of the thread is " University of Minnesota & Its
Communist Party USA Sympathy," yet this page has nothing
whatsoever to do with the U of M. Looks like Scottie's lying again.

>Here is another college campus condoning and spreading communism:

Hey Scottie, campuses are nothing but buildings and grounds. A campus

can't condon or spread anything, except maybe crabgrass. Your
pathetic grasp of English once again makes it clear that you certainly
didn't have the mental capacity to get through the 6th grade.

>http://global-reach.com/cp-minn/intellec.html

Once again, this URL is on a commerical (oh, the irony...) server, not
on a U. of M. machine. It also doesn't bill itself as an official U.
of M. page or site. How clueless Scottie here therefore infers that
the U. of M. has CPUSA sympathies is not at all clear.

>Statement by the University of Minnesota Committee of CPUSA

Except for the inclusion of the U. of M. name in the title of this
page, there is no evidence at all that this page is related to U. of
M. at all.

[Scottie's pointless copying of the contents of the above page
snipped]

Once again "Sieg Heil" Scottie has demonstrated his complete lack of
any sort of honesty or reasoning ability.

allan
--
************************************
allan_m...@bigfoot.com
************************************
"Jam it up your ass,"
- Booby Whitaker showing his
master debater skills

~~~~ End of Loud Mouth Matthews Archived Post~~~~

What about my claim that University of Minnesota caters to Marxism
like MIT? Here is my evidence:

Xref: http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=345804336

" #2 (supplement) >Comrade Matthews Denies His Communistic/Socialist
Sympathies BUT The Evidence Condemns Him!"

http://x5.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=327415409
Subject: Young Socialists Defend Affirmative Action, Protest
Clinic Bombing
From: bgh...@berlin.infomatch.com (Brian Hauk)
Date: 1998/02/22
Message-ID: <6co3pm$201$4...@berlin.infomatch.com>

Young Socialists Defend Affirmative Action, Protest Clinic Bombing
{`Young Socialists Around The World' column}
*********************************************************************
from the Militant, vol.62/no.7 February 23, 1998

This column is written and edited by the Young Socialists
(YS), an international organization of young workers, students,
and other youth fighting for socialism. For more information
about the YS write to: Young Socialists, 1573 N. Milwaukee,
P.O. Box #478, Chicago, Ill. 60622. Tel: (773) 772-0551.
Compuserve: 105162,605

BY ALARIC DIRMEYER
OLYMPIA, Washington - The State Capitol Building here was the
scene of a student-organized and -mobilized demonstration
against the affirmative action-gutting Initiative 200 on
January 31. Organizers from campuses around the Pacific
Northwest were able to draw forces from their schools, totaling
close to 200 protesters.

[...]

"Defend a
woman's right to choose! Prosecute the bombers! Defend abortion
rights! Safe and easy access to clinics!" The organizers also
contacted activists who they have worked with in defending
abortion rights, the Cuban revolution, fighting police
brutality, and speaking out against U.S. war moves against
Iraq. The pickets included students from the University of
Minnesota, Macalester College, and University of St. Thomas. A
number of demonstrators asked to be put on the mailing list for
the weekly Militant Labor Forums, and two women bought Militant
subscriptions.

Visit the Militant and other communist net resources:

The Militant
gopher://gopher.igc.apc.org:/11/pubs/militant

Granma International
http://www.granma.cu/

The Young Socialists
http://pages.prodigy.com/AHSG60C/index.html

Pathfinder Press
gopher://ftp.std.com/11/Book%20Sellers/Pathfinder%20Press

~~~~~~ End ~~~~~~

Please note that I, Tavish, did NOT add the links to the archived post
above. They are included in the leftist vermin's post.

Notice the communist did say: "The pickets included students from the
University of Minnesota..."

Anyone entering "University of Minnesota Communism" into the search
engine of DejaNews will be overwhelmed with much evidence of communist
activity at U of M. Are you paying attention FBI? Do something about
it! Make the spirit of J. Edgar Hoover proud again!

More on University of Minnesota's participation in Communism:

http://x5.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=324849372
Subject: Radio Havana Cuba, February 12, 1998
From: NY-Trans...@abbie.blythe.org
Date: 1998/02/13
Message-ID: <6c26ir$v9m$1...@news.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive

[Comrade Sonofvitch Matthewski take notice of where
this was posted from! Tavish]

Radio Havana Cuba, February 12, 1998

Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn't Fit

CUBANEWS FROM RADIO HAVANA CUBA

E-mail: r...@radiohc.org
http://www.radiohc.org

[...]

The following items are taken from Radio Havana Cuba's news
service for Thursday, February 12, 1998. Today's stories:

[...]

5.- COMMUNIST MANIFESTO TO BE STUDIED IN INTERNATIONAL
CONFERENCE

[...]

COMMUNIST MANIFESTO TO BE STUDIED IN INTERNATIONAL
CONFERENCE

Havana, February 12(RHC)-- The 150th anniversary of the
Communist Manifesto will be commemorated in the Cuban
capital with the international conference "Social
Emancipation 150 Years After the Communist Manifesto." The
scientific gathering, scheduled for Havana's Capitol from
February 17th through the 20th, will be attended by 40
scholars and academics from 10 countries including George
Labica from the Paris II-Nanterre University, Richard Levin,
an author of works on Karl Marx and other important figures
of the world communist movement and Erwin Marquit, professor
at the University of Minnesota at Minneapolis in the United
States.
The gathering's agenda includes round tables on the
significance of the Communist Manifesto 150 years after its
publication, with a focus on imperialism and globalization.
The Communist Manifesto is the Marxist text most-translated
and published around the world. That document recognizes the
international strategy of the bourgeoisie and capitalism,
offers a broad concept of the working-class and calls for
the unity of workers to face capitalism, signalling the role
of communists in the revolutionary transformation of
society.

~~~~~~ End ~~~~~~

BTW Comrade Sonofvitch Matthewski did you notice:
"... attended by 40
scholars and academics from 10 countries including George
Labica from the Paris II-Nanterre University, Richard Levin,
an author of works on Karl Marx and other important figures
of the world communist movement and Erwin Marquit, professor
at the University of Minnesota at Minneapolis..." ?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Did you notice the: "The gathering's agenda includes round tables on
the significance of the Communist Manifesto 150 years after its
publication, with a focus on imperialism and globalization.
The Communist Manifesto is the Marxist text most-translated
and published around the world. That document recognizes the
international strategy of the bourgeoisie and capitalism,
offers a broad concept of the working-class and calls for
the unity of workers to face capitalism, signalling the role
of communists in the revolutionary transformation of
society."

I could conclude that U of M knows that they had a representative to
attend this Commie Conference- wouldn't the rest of you?

BTW Comrade Sonofvitch Matthewski, do you still stand behind your
assinine claim: "Hey Scottie, campuses are nothing but buildings and
grounds. A campus can't condon or spread anything, except maybe
crabgrass."

It looks like your god damned commies are spreadin POISON IVY instead
of crabgrass!

Here are some more findings in DejaNews:

Please notice the date on this one and the server it was posted from!

http://x8.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=179535182
Subject: Minnesota: Statement on Threat to Tenure System
From: "Erwin Marquit" <marq...@maroon.tc.umn.edu>
Date: 1996/09/09

Statement by the University of Minnesota Committee of the
Communist Party, USA on Nationwide Threat to Tenure .
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
September 6, 1996

The right of working-class children to a high quality education
at a public university came under attack on September 5, 1996
when the Board of Regents of the University of Minnesota
resolved to dismantle the system of tenure, the principle
safeguard for the freedom of students to learn and of faculty to
teach and conduct research.

On that day the regents of the University of Minnesota declared
their intention to revise the tenure code so as to allow the
firing of tenured faculty in the case of program changes. The
phrase "program change" is so loosely defined that even
individual faculty can be targeted. The revised code would
permit disciplinary firing or salary reductions of faculty for
not maintaining "a proper attitude of industry and cooperation
with others within and without the University community."
Further measures include the institution of salary reductions
for failure to maintain "goals and expectations of the academic
unit." Under the proposals the authority of the Senate Judicial
Committee would be severely weakened. These proposals have been
forwarded to the University Senate, which has only advisory
powers on tenure. The Board of Regents intends to adopt the
revised code at its meeting in October 10.

Knowing that the ability of the University of Minnesota to
attract and retain faculty and graduate students appropriate to
a major research university would be undermined if it alone
dismantled tenure, the Board of Regents resolved in December
1995 to initiate nationwide discussion of the question. Past
experience shows that major changes in university policies are
spread with great rapidity among all the public supported
research institutions. This threat to academic freedom at the
University of Minnesota is therefore a threat to the entire
university community throughout the nation.

When information about the threat to tenure at the University of
Minnesota first appeared earlier this year, university senates
from a wide range of institutions sent resolutions of protest to
the University of Minnesota administration and regents and urged
the University Senate to reject such proposals. Instead of
rejecting the proposals outright, the Senate voted to accept the
essence of the administration s proposals to allow salary
reductions in the wake of posttenure review. This collapse under
pressure only strengthened the resolve of the regents to move
quickly on the more drastic measures.

Experiences at a number of universities have demonstrated that
the function of a university senate to provide real
faculty/student governance can only be guaranteed through the
embodiment of such governance functions within collective-
bargaining agreements. On the basis of this experience the newly
formed University [of Minnesota] Faculty Alliance has been
gathering signatures on authorization statements that may lead
to a collective-bargaining representation election.

The University of Minnesota Committee of the Communist Party,
USA urges faculty, students and and their organizations
throughout the nation to send protests to the Board of Regents
of the University of Minnesota (220 Morrill Hall, University of
Minnesota, Minneapolis MN 55455-) against the dismantling of
tenure at the university. The University of Minnesota Senate
should also be urged to rescind its agreement to accept salary
reductions based on posttenure review and to resist by all
appropriate means the attack on academic freedom that the
measures proposed by the Board of Regents represent. (Send such
appeals to the chair of the Faculty Consultative Committee--the
University Senate s steeing committee-- Professor Virginia Gray,
Department of Political Science, 1414 Social Science, University
of Minnesota, Minneapolis, MN 55455; E-mail:
vg...@polisci.umn.edu)

For further information, contact Erwin Marquit
Chair, U of Minn. Committee of the CPUSA
3512 W. 22 Street, Minneapolis, MN 55416
(612) 922-7993 marq...@tc.umn.edu

----------------------------------------------------------------
--
Below we reproduce a joint statement on the proposed changes in
the tenure code that was distributed to faculty by the chairs of
the principal faculty governance committees at the U of M.
on September 6, 1996 by the chairs of the principal faculty
governance committees,

Dear Colleagues,

Our attempt to reach a compromise on revision of the Tenure
Regulations has failed. The Regents have proposed new amendments
at their meeting on Thursday. In effect, they have accepted the
parts of the Faculty Senate draft in which the faculty made
compromises and rejected the parts in which the administration
recognized faculty concerns. Far from being a compromise, the
new proposal goes well beyond any prior administration proposal.
The Regents have asked that the faculty complete review of
their new draft within a month, so that they can take final
action on October 10. The draft contains the most substantial
changes in tenure policy that have been put forward here in over
50 years. To meet this hectic schedule, the faculty committees
will meet in the week of September 16, and the Faculty Senate
will meet on the first day of classes, September 26.
The Regents put forward their proposal over President
Hasselmo's strenuous opposition. Given the manner in which the
proposal was prepared, the extremely limited opportunity for
faculty consultation on the draft, and their unwillingness to
discuss with us the merits of various proposals, we must
conclude that they intend to move forward on this proposal.
At this point, we can only summarize the major parts of the
proposal. Other details will be provided later. Major points
are:

1. FIRING FACULTY IN CASE OF PROGRAM CHANGE. The proposal
eliminates the tenure protection currently available in cases of
program change. It provides:
--60 days' notice of programmatic change. (There is no other
provision for faculty participation in these decisions)
--reassignment or retraining of tenured faculty, unless "in
the University's judgment" this would be "not practicable."
(Note that it does not require that reassignment or retraining
be "impracticable," but only that the "University's judgment" be
such. Give the distinction of the Regents' Washington lawyers
who prepared this language, it is apparent that the intent was
to exclude any subsequent review of the decision
--one year's notice of termination be given
--there is no definition of "program," so a single faculty
member could be targeted by defining that individual's
specialization for elimination.

2. REDUCTIONS IN BASE PAY. The proposal eliminates the
guarantee of base pay contained in the current regulations.
Instead, it would provide that "Absent reasons found to be
compelling by the Board of Regents or its delegate," "it is
expected that" base pay would be protected. Again, carefully
note the drafting. The first of these clauses does NOT require
"compelling reasons" before reducing base pay; it only requires
that the administrator STATE that his reasons are compelling.
The second clause does not guarantee base salary, but only
articulates a general and vague expectation in that regard. The
language eliminates any legal claim to base pay.
The language, as drafted, would permit reductions of salary
targeted at single individuals. (The statement in the Star-
Tribune this morning that such pay cuts could only be imposed on
groups of faculty, not on individuals, was apparently based on
the oral statements of the Regents' lawyer in describing the
plan. An examination of the actual text reveals no such
limitation.) Indeed, the new language provides no effective
protection of salary. The provision also cuts off any review of
such issues by the Judicial Committee, even in cases of alleged
violation of academic freedom.

3. POST TENURE REVIEW. The post tenure review process has
been substantially rewritten. Rather than the remedial process
we proposed, seeking to improve the performance of faculty
experiencing difficulties, the provision in now primarily
punitive in orientation, emphasizing dismissal and salary
reduction. It now permits annual 10% salary reductions ad
infinitum. Many of the procedural protections have been removed.

4. FACULTY DISCIPLINE. The faculty discipline section
represents a radical departure from existing rules. It
introduces surprising new language. For example, faculty members
may be punished if they do not "maintain . . . a proper attitude
of industry and cooperation with others within and without the
University community." Discipline, including dismissal may be
imposed when "commonly held standards of conduct" (not further
specified) are violated. A new ground for firing a faculty
member, "other grave misconduct" is added.
A whole new category of "lesser sanctions" is created,
including PAY CUTS (which may be permanent and are not limited
in amount) and suspensions from duty. These may be imposed by
the administrator after notice and an opportunity to respond,
but the discipline "need not involve formal proceedings of any
kind." For example, this would authorize a dean to impose a
permanent 50% pay cut without a hearing before an impartial
body. The Judicial Committee is also excluded from review of
these actions, although the faculty member might file a
grievance with an outside arbitrator.

5. JUDICIAL COMMITTEE PROCEDURES. Although access to the
Judicial Committee has been cut off in many cases--including
many possible cases involving academic freedom issues--new major
restrictions are imposed upon the operation of the Judicial
Committee. These include:
--law officer, who must not be a faculty member.
--The President will no longer be required to respect the
Judicial Committee's report and recommendation. The current
regulations contain a legal limitation (he can overrule the
committee only for "compelling reasons") and a procedural check
(he can do so only after meeting with the Judicial Committee).
The Regents' draft deletes both provisions, giving the President
total freedom to ignore the hearing panel's report.
--The new draft permits a dean to suspend a faculty member
without pay, in certain circumstances, while a proceeding to
dismiss is underway.
* * *
Two other points should be made:
Some of the proposed changes track language in other
universities' tenure regulations. But those universities may
have long-established practices or other policies that
effectively limit the exercise of the power granted by the
tenure codes there. If we adopt the bare language of those
universities, but not the other limitations that exist there, we
will be deviating sharply from the norm. There seems to be no
effort to simultaneously adopt the practices of other
institutions.
Given the radical nature of these changes, this is not merely
an attempt to respond to the Faculty Senate proposals. It seeks
to impose a radical changes in the relations of faculty,
administration, and Regents. Given the controversy that has been
generated, we must assume that the Board intends to exercise
fully the powers that they are creating by these changes.
Take these proposals seriously and act accordingly. The
Regents intend to act on them on October 10.

Sincerely yours
FRED L. MORRISON, Professor of Law
MARY DEMPSEY, Professor of Biochemistry
VIRGINIA GRAY, Professor of Political Science
ED FOGELMAN, Professor of Political Science
DAN FEENEY, Professor of Small Animal Clinical Science
Chairs of the respective Faculty Senate Committees

Professor Erwin Marquit
School of Physics, University of Minnesota
116 Church Street S.E, Minneapolis, MN 55455-0112
marq...@tc.umn.edu phone 922-7993 (home)

~~~~~ End of archived post ~~~~

Note again the part in the opening of the post above which said:

"Subject: Minnesota: Statement on Threat to Tenure System
From: "Erwin Marquit" <marq...@maroon.tc.umn.edu>
Date: 1996/09/09

Statement by the University of Minnesota Committee of the
Communist Party, USA on Nationwide Threat to Tenure ."

And compare what Comrade Allan Matthews claimed with his ridicule:

>>Subject: Re: University of Minnesota & Its Communist Party USA
>>Sympathy

>>From: allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan Matthews)

>>Date: 1998/01/23
>>Message-ID: <MPG.f3219231...@news.shore.net>
>>
>>Once again, "Sieg Heil" Scottie, frothing at the mouth about
>>"Communists," fails to distinguish between official University of
>>Minnesota policies and a web page that isn't even on a University
>>server.
>>
>>This is exactly the same sort of crap Scottie spewed when he found a
>>Marxist page on a student web server at MIT and laughably declared it
>>"proof" that MIT is a Marxist indoctrination facility.

.....................................................................

Attention any FBI Agents that are awake :-) why don't you mosey right
back up and read Allan Matthews spew and personal attack against me!
Either he is so god damned ignorant that he is blind or he should be
questioned as being a communist agent working at subversion and other
unAmerican activities.
Doc Tavish

Doc Tavish

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Apr 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/22/98

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On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:32:39 GMT, doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc
Tavish) wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:30:43 -0400, allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan
>Matthews) wrote:
>
>>Here is Comrade Sonofvitch Matthewski The Red making apologia for all
>>the Neo-Socialism/Marxism that infests our university system. Note
>>that I provide proof that proves contrary his personal attacks and
>>smear.
>>
>>http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=318544175
>>Subject: Re: University of Minnesota & Its Communist Party USA
>>Sympathy
>>From: allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan Matthews)
>>Date: 1998/01/23
>>Message-ID: <MPG.f3219231...@news.shore.net>
>>
>>Once again, "Sieg Heil" Scottie, frothing at the mouth about
>>"Communists," fails to distinguish between official University of
>>Minnesota policies and a web page that isn't even on a University
>>server.
>>
>>This is exactly the same sort of crap Scottie spewed when he found a
>>Marxist page on a student web server at MIT and laughably declared it
>>"proof" that MIT is a Marxist indoctrination facility.

http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=297081576.1
Subject: Re: REAGAN was Right - REAGAN Saw True
From: yas...@ix.netcom.com (Mary E Knadler)
Date: 1997/12/11
Message-ID: <66ndbm$r...@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>

In <66n31s$n...@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> yas...@ix.netcom.com
Mary E Knadler) writes:

If so, it is reasonable that these experts would have foreseen the
inevitable collapse. What did they have to say about the Soviet
system during the '80s? In 1982, Columbia University Sovietologist
Seweryn Bialer wrote in foreign Affairs: "The Soviet Union is not
now nor will it be during the next decade in the throes of a true
systemic crisis, for it boasts enormous unused reserves of
political & social stability"

This view was seconded that same year by the eminent historian
Arthur Schlesinger, Jr: "Those in the United States who think the
Soviet Union is on the verge of economic collapse" are "wishful
thinkers are who are only kidding themselves."

John Kenneth Gallbraith wrote in 1984: That thee Soviet Union has
made great material progress in recent years is evident both from
the the statistics & from the general urban scene... One sees it in
the appearance of solid well-being of the people in the streets..
& the general aspect of resturants, theaters & shops""

.........MIT Stuff Below....................Tavish

Equally imaginative was Paul Samuelson of MIT, a Nobel laureate in
economics, writing in 1985 said, "What counts is results, & there
can be no doubt that the Soviet planning system has been a powerful
engine for economic growth."

But the genius award must go to Lester Thurow of MIT, who wrote as
late as 1988, "Today the Soviet Union is a country whose economic
achievments bear comparison with those of the U.S,."

[...]

[Note carats or the >>> you see in many posts were removed from this
copy. Tavish]

Doc Tavish

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http://x9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=326760575.3
Subject: Radio Havana Cuba, February 19 1998
From: NY-Trans...@abbie.blythe.org
Date: 1998/02/19
Message-ID: <9b791978&1998021923...@abbie.blythe.org>

[...]

CONFERENCE ON 150th ANNIVERSARY OF COMMUNIST
MANIFESTO IN HAVANA

Havana, February 19(RHC)-- Richard Levins, a professor at
Harvard University in the U.S., said in Havana that "there
are universal themes, such as the capitalist phenomenon,
that cannot be studied without appealing to historical
materialism."

Addressing participants at the International Conference on
Social Emancipation -- 150 Years After the Communist
Manifesto, Levins discussed the current contradictions in
capitalism.

Among topics debated at this encounter -- marking the 150th
anniversary of the work of Karl Marx and Frederick Engels --
are contemporary issues granting validity to the Communist
Manifesto, as well as its current impact on the Third World.

~~~~~~ END~~~~~

Hasn't Muscovite Allan Matthews taunted me before?

http://x10.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=318544175

Subject: Re: University of Minnesota & Its Communist Party USA
Sympathy
From: allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan Matthews)
Date: 1998/01/23
Message-ID: <MPG.f3219231...@news.shore.net>

[...]

Perhaps "Sieg Heil" Scottie feels a strong need to castigate academic
institutions so as not to feel quite so bad about his being a sixth
grade dropout.

In article <34c792b1...@news.smart1.net>,
doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com says...
>FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN DUPED INTO
>THINKING COMMUNISM IS DEAD

Given that Communism is an idea, how could it be dead? How do you
kill an idea, Scottie? Of course, given that Scottie has never
actually had any ideas of his own, this misunderstanding on his part
is quite understandable.

[...]

>Here is another college campus condoning and spreading communism:

Hey Scottie, campuses are nothing but buildings and grounds. A campus

can't condon or spread anything, except maybe crabgrass. Your
pathetic grasp of English once again makes it clear that you certainly
didn't have the mental capacity to get through the 6th grade.

[...]

Once again "Sieg Heil" Scottie has demonstrated his complete lack of
any sort of honesty or reasoning ability.

allan

~~~~ End of personal attack from Marxist apologist~~~~

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http://x9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=326121332.1
Subject: .edu
From: "Angelmoon" <computer...@mailexite.com>
Date: 1998/02/18
Message-ID: <01bd3c17$2184af20$ac4b2299@reserve>
Newsgroups: alt.california

[...]

The current issue of the academic journal Social Text offers a
particularly illuminating example of the process. Couched as a
personal memoir and written by one of the magazine's editors, "The
Last Good Job in America" provides a portrait of today's liberal arts
professor as slacker-in-residence. Its author, Stanley Aronowitz, was
a labor organizer in the '60s who got his Ph.D. from an Antioch
extension program and was recruited to the Graduate Center of City
University by a '60s comrade already on the faculty.

City University is New York's publicly funded higher education
opportunity for children of the working classes. Like other
financially overburdened educational institutions, it is "downsizing,"
replacing full professors like Aronowitz with less qualified and lower
paid teaching assistants.

Twenty years ago, City University had hired Aronowitz "because they
believed I was a labor sociologist." In fact, as he admits in Social
Text, this was just a scam: "First and foremost I'm a political
intellectual ... [I] don't follow the methodological rules of the
discipline." Following his own looser rules, Aronowitz created the
"Center for Cultural Studies," a broad umbrella under which he could
teach Marxist politics at his leisure.

[...]

~~~~~~~ END ~~~~~~

Doc Tavish

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On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 01:08:42 GMT, doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc
Tavish) wrote:

http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=341711168.2
Subject: Re: Program for Conference on New Trends in Cultural
Policy for the 21st Century - ....
From: Vera Britto <fia...@UMICH.EDU>
Date: 1998/04/07
Message-ID: <3529F3...@umich.edu>

[...]

> CONFERENCE ON NEW TRENDS IN CULTURAL POLICY FOR The 21ST CENTURY
> ORGANIZED BY THE AMERICAN STUDIES PROGRAM AT NEW YORK UNIVERSITY AND
> CO-SPONSORS*
> April 30 - May 1, 1998
> Thursday & Friday afternoon Swayduck Auditorium, The New School - 65
> Fifth Ave (near 14th St)
> Friday morning - TISCHMAN AUDITORIUM, NYU, 40 Washington Square South,
> 1st floor
>
> Registration is necessary to attend: Call 212-998-8538, or send e-mail
> to <priv.c...@nyu.edu>
> or see our home page:
> http://www.nyu.edu/projects/privculture/confer.htm
>
> DESCRIPTION
> The purpose of the conference is to engage in discussion of new=
> trends in cultural support, with a particular focus on the privatization of
> public culture. Privatization involves not only the threat of
> elimination, or reduction, of certain public venues of funding (the NEA
> and the NEH in the U.S.; reduction of government subsidies in Europe...

> 4:35 - 6:00 LABOR, CITIZENSHIP & CONSUMERISM
> Stanley Aronowitz, Sociology, Graduate Center, CUNY

~~~~~ End of Archive~~~~~

Parents do you really know what that university is teaching your
offspring? You had better check right now! Sure are a lot of
Universities praising Marxism/Socialism isn't there?

Doc Tavish

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http://x10.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=122396272
Subject: Brecht Forum/NY Marxist School tape catalog
From: ny...@nyxfer.blythe.org (Bill Koehnlein)
Date: 1995/12/20
Message-ID: <4b9ne5$14...@news.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive

The Brecht Forum

The New York Marxist School
The Institute for Popular Education
122 West 27 Street, 10 floor
New York, New York 10001
(212) 242-4201
(212) 741-4563 (fax)
ny...@nyxfer.blythe.org (e-mail)

*****

Audiotapes of Brecht Forum Lectures and Seminars

This list is current as of January 1, 1996.

All lectures and seminars sponsored by The Brecht Forum and its
projects, The New York Marxist School and the Institute for Popular
Education, are available on audiotape....

[...]

**George Bernstein, Montclair State University, New Jersey
"The Gingrich Agenda: Nostalgia for a Past That Never Was"
(4/18/95)

**Walter Bernstein, scriptwriter for Woody Allen's _The Front_ and
television's _You Are There_
**Paul Buhle, co-editor, _Encyclopedia of the American Left_
"Political Amnesia and Popular Culture: The Entertainment Blacklist
and the Left Writer" (3/22/95)

[...]

**Richard Levins, biologist, Harvard University
"Out from under the Bell Curve" (1/19/95)

~~~~~~~~ END ~~~~~~~

>http://x9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=326760575.3
>Subject: Radio Havana Cuba, February 19 1998
>From: NY-Trans...@abbie.blythe.org
>Date: 1998/02/19
>Message-ID: <9b791978&1998021923...@abbie.blythe.org>
>
>[...]
>
>CONFERENCE ON 150th ANNIVERSARY OF COMMUNIST
>MANIFESTO IN HAVANA
>
>Havana, February 19(RHC)-- Richard Levins, a professor at
>Harvard University in the U.S., said in Havana that "there
>are universal themes, such as the capitalist phenomenon,
>that cannot be studied without appealing to historical
>materialism."
>
>Addressing participants at the International Conference on
>Social Emancipation -- 150 Years After the Communist
>Manifesto, Levins discussed the current contradictions in
>capitalism.
>
>Among topics debated at this encounter -- marking the 150th
>anniversary of the work of Karl Marx and Frederick Engels --
>are contemporary issues granting validity to the Communist
>Manifesto, as well as its current impact on the Third World.
>
> ~~~~~~ END~~~~~
>
>Hasn't Muscovite Allan Matthews taunted me before?
>

----

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True this happened ~three years ago BUT it happened never the less!

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=118571094
Subject: MIT Conf on Processes of Change
From: jd...@mcs.com (Jim Davis)
Date: 1995/11/03
Message-ID: <47e6dl$h...@news.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive

--CONFERENCE ANNOUNCEMENT - Please Forward and Post Appropriately--

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Conference on
PROCESSES OF CHANGE:
In Nature, Technology and Society

NOV 10-12,1995
at MIT, Cambridge, MA
------------------------------------------------------------------------

One of a series of events marking Mel King's quarter century
leadership of the MIT Community Fellows Program.

In conjunction with:
The National Student Summit
organized by Students Together Ending Poverty (STEP)

CONCERNS OF THE CONFERENCE:

We have entered a period of increasingly rapid technological,
social and political change. National economic barriers are falling
and
the flow of capital and commodities is truly global. Advances in
electronics, computer sciences and biotechnology are transforming the
nature of communication, production and medicine. The applications of
these technologies has vastly increased productivity, opening the
possibility of significant rise in the material standard of living
for
not just a fraction of the population but for the entire population.
Productivity potentials for food, vehicles, housing, electronics,
communications, health care and education are high enough to satisfy
the
material and cultural needs of everyone. Yet the standard of living
is
going down for the majority of Americans.

In domestic politics, domination of Congress by
representatives
of corporate interests and anti-democratic groups is resulting in
major
changes in national economic and social policies including shrinking
support for education and research. These are driving down rather
than
raising standards of living of the majority. Historic motions to
break
the barriers to full equality for women,and for African-American,
Mexican-American and immigrant groups are being set back.

Changes in national policies can take the form of liberating
people from the burden of material want, introducing universal higher
education, unleashing the new electronic technologies for truly
democratic communication, and providing housing, health care, and
opportunity for all. A precondition is recognizing that such changes
can
indeed be brought about.

For a quarter century, Mel King has been a leader of the
effort
at MIT and in Massachusetts to bring about these kinds of liberating
changes. This conference is an effort to continue this tradition by
helping us to understand and direct changes taking place in nature,
in
our environment and in our society.

CONFERENCE SPONSORS include: MIT Community Fellows Program; MIT
Luthern/Episcopal Ministry; MIT Alternative News Collective; MIT
Black
Students Union; Massachusetts Welfare Rights Union; Students
Together Ending Poverty; Council for Responsible Genetics; Computer
Professionals for Social Responsibility; The Center for Voting &
Democracy; Playing to Win Network.

CONFERENCE PROGRAM
(as of 10/27/95)
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 9:

8:00 PM Forum: Welcome by Charles M. Vest, President of MIT

1) Chaotic and Complex Processes in Nature (Sponsored by the
MIT Technology & Culture Forum):
Moderator: Herman Feshbach [Dept. of Physics, MIT, Cambridge, MA]
Roger Lewin [Author of "Complexity"]
Richard Lewontin [Dept. of Evolutionary Bio, Harvard U., Cambridge,
MA]*
Marcia McNutt [Dept. of Earth and Planetary Sci., MIT, Cambridge, MA]

FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 10:

9:00 AM Morning Plenary

2) Changes in the Natural World:
Michael Brand [Dept. of Math., Essex Comm. College, Baltimore, MD]*
Herman Feshbach [Dept. of Physics, MIT, Cambridge, MA]
Patricia Hynes [Boston University School of Public Health]
Richard Levins [Dept. of Population Biology, Harvard School of Public
Health, Boston, MA]*

[...] <More much more! Tavish>

~~~~~~ End of Archived Post ~~~~~~~

Now what did a certain big mouth Marxist say?

[...]

allan

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http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=121631590
Subject: Re: COMMUNIST AGENDA OF EVENTS
From: ny...@nyxfer.blythe.org (Bill Koehnlein)
Date: 1995/12/12
Message-ID: <4ajjun$7...@news1.blythe.org>
Newsgroups:
ny.politics,nyc.general,nyc.politics,alt.politics.org.un,alt.politics.usa.mis

There seems to be a few questions in this group about The New York
Marxist School--what is it, why we call it that, whether we really
are Marxists/communists, and so forth. To clarify things a bit, I'm
posting a couple of informational items. The first is a description
of the NYMS which was included in our Dinner Journal that was given
out at our twentieth anniversary celebration held this past Saturday.
The second is a blurb about The Brecht Forum (the parent body of
the NYMS) that I used to send out to people who wrote for information.
This blurb is somewhat out of date (you'll notice an announcement
for an "upcoming" event in April 1995); it's currently being
rewritten and the new version will be included in future events
calendars.

If anybody is interested, I can send a copy of our current November-
December calendar. I won't post this because it is not particularly
germane to a newsgroup such as alt.politics.org.un (note: I believe
that this thread began on that group; if these responses to responses
to responses get crossposted to other groups, I apologize), and,
even if it were, our semester is almost over and it would be like
posting yesterday's news.

Similarly, we have an article by Richard Levins, a Harvard
biologist that I can send. This article explains how a Marxist/
dialectical methodology is applied in scientific work; it is also
a good introduction to the dialectic method in general, which is
the method we use at the Marxist School....

[...]

The Brecht Forum
The New York Marxist School
The Institute for Popular Education
122 West 27 Street, 10 floor
New York, New York 10001
(212) 242-4201
(212) 741-4563 (fax)
ny...@nyxfer.blythe.org (e-mail)

~~~~~~~END ~~~~~~

Levins is sympathetic to Marxism:

http://x9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=326760575.3
Subject: Radio Havana Cuba, February 19 1998
From: NY-Trans...@abbie.blythe.org
Date: 1998/02/19
Message-ID: <9b791978&1998021923...@abbie.blythe.org>

[...]

CONFERENCE ON 150th ANNIVERSARY OF COMMUNIST
MANIFESTO IN HAVANA

Havana, February 19(RHC)-- Richard Levins, a professor at
Harvard University in the U.S., said in Havana that "there
are universal themes, such as the capitalist phenomenon,
that cannot be studied without appealing to historical
materialism."

Addressing participants at the International Conference on
Social Emancipation -- 150 Years After the Communist
Manifesto, Levins discussed the current contradictions in
capitalism.

Among topics debated at this encounter -- marking the 150th
anniversary of the work of Karl Marx and Frederick Engels --
are contemporary issues granting validity to the Communist
Manifesto, as well as its current impact on the Third World.

~~~~~~ End ~~~~~~

I wonder what the Marxist heckler and pathological commie thinks?

[...]

allan

Why is it so easy to make Marxist/Socialist/Liberals look stupid?