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UNEXPURGATED! In Sara Salzman's Own Words! Her S&M Torture & Bondage Fantasies R_16

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Jan 17, 2002, 12:37:03 AM1/17/02

On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:48:23 -0500,
<jeffreygbrown-E6D...@news.alt.net> "Jeffrey G. Brown"
<jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote:

>In article <sq4v2us0odig5nhq7...@4ax.com>, Poor Ol' Gutless
>Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>
>> As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will keep
>> posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it then shove it.

Here is Sara Salzman in full unedited splendor:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:05:00 -0600, <aa0d1ucdf9q9mlc9s...@4ax.com>
T-A-V <RemoveAllHYPH...@ix.ne-tc-om.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:08:36 -0500, <qctc1uo4s3qdov4m7...@4ax.com>
>Mike Kalvatis <mkal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com
>
For a fact that Message ID yields:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com&num=20&hl=en
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
Organization: InfiNet
Lines: 114
Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p21.infinet.com

My Master holds the rope just so.

He knows me. Knows my moods. Knows the fear behind my eyes, both real and
imagined.

Those eyes widen as he gently lays the rope down, as he carefully,
methodically, systematically, lays the toys down on the bed.

Soft moans escape from behind gagged lips. I have been told to watch.
To see each and know that soon each will touch me.

He looks up briefly as he lays each down on the bed. Checking reactions.
Watching.

The short whip. A sigh.
The deerskin. The suede.

The small braided thong, the one that stings. A short moan.

The horsehair that stings but never marks.

The canes. The paddles. A pause.

I wait, knowing.

The small velvet bag that holds clamps. Clamps too severe for my breasts,
yet applied anyway.

A gasp. And then his smile.

He knows me. He knows I will take the pain to please him. He knows the
sacrifice I make to his Gods of Pain. He sees the torment in my eyes. The
desire to please. The love. The fear of the pain.

My Master holds the rope just so.

Through his fingers, around my wrists, making delicate rings softer than
steel. Stronger than steel. One on each wrist, a gentle bracelet that is
soon pulled tight, stretched to the bedposts and wrapped tightly. One on
each ankle. No matter how I tighten my muscles as he wraps the rope, still
it is perfectly tight. The circulation moves.
The ankle does not.

I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts.

But first, two small wooden clothespins bob before my eyes. I turn my
head, remember I am instructed to watch, turn back. The clothespins bite
the delicate flesh of each nipple. Grasp. Sting. Burn. He waits.

My Master knows me. Knows he can whip me, clothespins and all. Knows the
pain, where it will hurt the most, what I can and cannot take.
He waits.

The burning increases as the pins are removed. Ah, he will not whip me
with clothespins in place. But the moment when I was unsure, when the
blood pounded in my temples and the fear covered me like a shroud, then he
watched my eyes.

The whip falls. Which one is it now? I cannot turn my head to see which he
reaches for. But I know them all. I arch my back, try to stay still.

My Master knows me. Knows I will hold position as long as possible, before
the pain forces me to writhe, to turn, to try in vain to shield my
breasts. Knows the moment when I can no longer stay still. And precisely
then, says gently, "Don't move."

My Master holds the rope just so. Gently tugging at the knots, to release
arms and legs from bondage. Gently unwraps each wrist, each ankle. Rubs
each, and kisses the places where the rope has left its mark. The gag is
removed. I swallow.

"Kneel."

I crouch on the bed, head down, ass up, as he mounts the bed behind me.
His hands caress my ass softly, then spank sharply. Slowly, quickly, his
hand falls upon my ass. I wait for the moment, the pain/pleasure as he
will enter me. But not yet. First a gentle tapping, soft touch, as he
marks the place the cane will fall. I brace myself, plead with myself to
hold position, knowing each stroke brings a fire hotter than any flame.

Five strokes. Six. I have not moved. As the pain from each begins to
subside, a soft, half-sob. "Thank you, Master."

Eight. Nine. My knees give out, and I fall to the bed, sobbing. But
immediately back on my knees again. "Thank you, Master."

Ten. I am aware of nothing, save the pain. And his voice, as I am
commanded to orgasm, not from stimulation, not from his fingers or his
cock, but from pain alone. My body responds without hesitation. My
pleasure is screamed out for his pleasure.

Later, I will feel his cock inside me. I will feel the force as he thrusts
deep into me, bruising the tender flesh with his strength. Later I will
come, and come, and come, but only by his command. Later, we will lie
back, exhausted, as he cradles me in his arms, strokes me gently, whispers
in my ear.

But not yet.

Now he rises from the bed, returns to the toys so carefully laid out before me.

My Master holds the rope just so.

~~End of EXACT and Precise GOOGLE Archive~~

Everyone be sure to read Sara's recipe for "Fist F*cking" further down in this
group of archives!! BTW can anyone imagine a beast like this:
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif "Fist F*cking" herself.
I could drive my Jeep up in her and park it! :-)

Here is more from Pig Sara Salzman:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=sschwartz-0902950703090001%40p24.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: F. E. Campbell dead
Date: 9 Feb 1995 11:59:22 GMT
Organization: Cat's Lair
Lines: 19
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <sschwartz-090...@p24.infinet.com>
References: <sschwartz-060...@p01.infinet.com>
<47.266...@hedonism.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p24.infinet.com

In article <47.266...@hedonism.com>, bill....@hedonism.com (Bill
Majors) wrote:

> Ummm...well here I go betraying my ignorance. What has Geoffrey Merrick
> written. I tend to remember stories, not authors. In fact had I not met
> Frank I would not have realized who he was except that his name was as
> prominant as the title of the books.
>
I don't know much about him, except that he published a series of hardcore
bondage books called the Tyler Series. They were wonderful! I'll try and
dig up the publisher and get back to you.

Perrrfect

--
"It never rains under my umbrella."
Pete Townshend

~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=sschwartz-0502951800290001%40p55.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: What is power? (was Re: Power Imbalance v. Power Exchange)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 18:00:29 -0500
Organization: InfiNet
Lines: 28
Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p55.infinet.com>
References: <1995Jan27.2...@tantalus.clark.net>
<3gha46$p...@panix3.panix.com> <1995Jan30....@tantalus.clark.net>
<3gj06b$n...@crl9.crl.com> <3gv6bm$4...@crl9.crl.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p55.infinet.com

In article <3gv6bm$4...@crl9.crl.com>, ver...@crl.com (Janet W. Hardy) wrote:

>
> Quick straw poll here: How many people have ever felt totally,
> completely safe during any S/M scene -- safeword or no, light or heavy,
> D/S or sensation-only?

Verdant:

I hate to muddle the semantics further, but...

safe? You mean safe that my Master won't break my leg or suffocate me to
the point of death in a scene?

100%. Period. I know my Master would never cause tha kind of damage.

Safe, as in not getting hurt, or not getting hurt MORE thn I'd LIKE to accept?
Certianly not 100%. Mastercat is always pushing limits, and pushing me to
the edge or slightly farther.

But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die alone?
Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel equally safe
with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with.

Perrrfect

--
Go ahead, take the moral high ground. All that divine backlighting makes an
excellent target.

~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=4&selm=sschwartz-2202951845170001%40p00.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: Sex slave looking for couple in D.C.
Message-ID: <sschwartz-220...@p00.infinet.com>
Date: 22 Feb 95 23:45:17 GMT
References: <3hutf0$k...@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>
<3iajlv$1...@news.cc.geneseo.edu>
Organization: InfiNet
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NNTP-Posting-Host: p45.infinet.com

In article <3iajlv$1...@news.cc.geneseo.edu>, (Mindy and Aaron Proietti) wrote:

> Hello Tim. My name is Mindy and I am 23 years old. My husband Aaron and I
> just got married and we are looking for some new excitement in the bedroom. We
> are very interested in your offer, and we would like to get to know you (all of
> you) better. Please write back with a full (and true) description of yourself.
> Hope to hear from you soon. Mindy and Aaron

Mindy:

If you're in Washington, you should join The Power Exchange. It's a local
BBS that's exclusively for SM folks. They're some of the best folks
around. We've met many of the people from the Board personally, and at the
parties they hold. I highly recommend it!

Sara

PS. Sorry to post this publicly. I couldn't respond to you via e-mail from
your address.

--
It never rains under my umbrella
Pete Townshend

~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~

THIS ONE IS A REAL SARA SALZMAN CLASSIC!!!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=6&selm=sschwartz-1102952319440001%40p01.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Fist Fucking
Message-ID: <sschwartz-110...@p01.infinet.com>
Date: 12 Feb 95 04:19:44 GMT
Organization: InfiNet
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NNTP-Posting-Host: p01.infinet.com

By the way... Elbow Grease IS WATER SOLUABLE.

Says so right on the label.

We've found for MANY things, it is "wetter" and slicker than KY.

Your mileage may, of course, vary.

Perrrfect

--
It never rains under my umbrella

~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=7&selm=sschwartz-1102950819070001%40p14.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: Fist fucking (1)
Message-ID: <sschwartz-110...@p14.infinet.com>
Date: 11 Feb 95 13:19:07 GMT
References: <3hf46h$p...@nyx10.cs.du.edu> <3hg9a1$i...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
Organization: InfiNet
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NNTP-Posting-Host: p14.infinet.com

In article <3hg9a1$i...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, lant...@aol.com (L
Antoniou) wrote:

> Perhaps you should read the messages before responding. If you read all
> of mine, you will see that eventually I do suggest the "duck" position -
> all fingers together. What I (and Elf) was responding to was the
> suggestion that one *begin* fisting in that position. Of course, you go
> on to say *exactly that*.
>
In fact, Laura, I did NOT say you should begin in the "duck" position. I
just stated that it was the eventual position to achieve.

I'm sorry if I did not make that clear in my post. I *did* state that fist
fucking was not something I had done very often, and merely wanted to
impart my own (limited) experience.

--
It never rains under my umbrella
Pete Townshend

~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~

Just read what Sara said: "I *did* state that fist fucking was not something I
had done very often, and merely wanted to impart my own (limited) experience."
and then look at her picture!
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif

That is enough to blow your mind!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=8&selm=sschwartz-1102950812130001%40p14.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: GREAT NEWS!!!
Message-ID: <sschwartz-110...@p14.infinet.com>
Date: 11 Feb 95 13:12:13 GMT
Organization: InfiNet
Lines: 20
NNTP-Posting-Host: p14.infinet.com

For those of you who weren't aware of it, SandMUtopia Guardian was on the
block. It looked like we were going to lose it for good.

However:

The Utopian Network (Adam Selene/Adam's Whips) has purchased it!

We've been talking to Gerry this weekend at Anything for Love here in
Columbus (Gerry = Jillian), and she says they have great plans for it!

It will be a quarterly at first, while they get the "hang" of publishing.
NO fiction, just informational articles, photographs, etc.

Lets cross fingers and wish them good luck!

Perrrfect

--
It never rains under my umbrella
Pete Townshend

~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=9&selm=sschwartz-0902950732240001%40p24.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: What makes someone li
Date: 9 Feb 1995 12:28:37 GMT
Organization: Cat's Lair
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Message-ID: <sschwartz-090...@p24.infinet.com>
References: <9748WLTQK...@juris.com> <3hcclp$j...@news.cerf.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p24.infinet.com

In article <3hcclp$j...@news.cerf.net>, eigh...@cyberverse.com (Eightmeg) wrote:

> jmi...@juris.com wrote:
>
>
> : My point about most people being abused was merely a comment....it had
> : no point to make other than to inquire...
>
> My Domina and I have wondered the same thing. My experience is
> that I went to a BBS meeting for a small city and a large portion of the
> people there were, to my dismay, a very unbalanced, retarded looking
> abused lot. I sort of expected the people at an S&M club to be like
> that. But when I went to the S&M club, the people (generally) looked
> normal, bright, intelligent, balanced and attractive!
>
What small city? Those of us who live in small cities and who practise D&M
don't think of ourselves as unbalanced or retarded at all.

I believe a SERIOUS apology is needed here. This is a truly offensive post
to me, at least.

Perrrfect

--
"It never rains under my umbrella."
Pete Townshend

~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=11&selm=sschwartz-0502951451330001%40p21.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: BBS situation for comment
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:51:33 -0500
Organization: InfiNet
Lines: 20
Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com>
References: <3gup6u$7...@sundog.tiac.net> <3h0ra3$5...@tpe.ncm.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p21.infinet.com

In article <3h0ra3$5...@tpe.ncm.com>, gri...@tpe.ncm.com (Bob Grimes) wrote:

>
> The Power Exchange also has a dungeon avialable for members, but
> consenuality is not a problem. A submissive must accept a collar
> <thus consensuality> before the Dom who offered the collar can use
> that command and all other D/s commands.
>

Just to add a brief .02 here, not only is consensuality the basis for the
Dungeon on TPE, but the quality of the members also aids here. Just once,
I was addressed by a new member as "slut." Before I could even TYPE a
response, four other people on the Board had called this person (gently)
to task. I was impressed.

Perrrfect

--
Go ahead, take the moral high ground. All that divine backlighting makes an
excellent target.

~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~

Reading all of this makes me despise even more the swine who defend Pig Sara and
condemn us for pointing out the atmosphere she exposes her children to. I have
no doubts that Pig Sara's pervert husband had her daughter dress up as a
dominatrix and I bet Sara thought it was cute judging by how she is into S&M
as much as the above and the following posts show!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=12&selm=sschwartz-030295080500%40p09.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: What's in a gag?
Followup-To: alt.sex.bondage
Date: 3 Feb 1995 13:00:46 GMT
Organization: Cat's Lair
Lines: 16
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <sschwartz-0...@p09.infinet.com>
References: <3gl7t9$6a...@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p09.infinet.com

In article <3gl7t9$6a...@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com>, PEG...@prodigy.com
(Steven Phillips) wrote:

> My wife wants to top her very truculant husband but need help in the
> gagging. Any good sugestions will be used. Our attempts seem to always
> fail.

There are a number of household items that make excellent gags. A small
piece of sponge wrapped in a bandana and then knotted. A "whiffle" golf
ball (practise ball) with a piece of cloth through it. A pair of panties,
or pantyhose.

What specific problems are you encountering?

Perrrfect
--
~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=13&selm=sschwartz-020295085409%40p17.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: YKINOKism revisited (was: Bigotry and Hatred. . .)
Followup-To: alt.sex.bondage
Date: 2 Feb 1995 13:56:13 GMT
Organization: Cat's Lair
Lines: 22
Message-ID: <sschwartz-0...@p17.infinet.com>
References: <233416Z...@anon.penet.fi>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p17.infinet.com

In article <233416Z...@anon.penet.fi>, an12...@anon.penet.fi
(Laurelie) wrote:

> 1. If you can say that the kinks of murder, rape, non-consensual
> abuse are not ok (and there are people with these kinks!), then
> you too, believe that all kinks are not created equal.
>

My only problem with an otherwise excellent, well-written, and beautifully
punctuated post is this. Murder is a KINK? Perhaps I need a definition here
of kink.

Granted, the dictionaries may not be too much help here, but the Webster's
9th defines it (in our context) as "2. a mental or physical peculiarity:
eccentricity, quirk, whim, 3. a clever unusual way of doing something"

I'm just not certain I can view murderers and rapsist as merely people with
different kinks than mine.

Can we get a good definition, Laurelie?

Thanks!

~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~

Need I say more other than Sara "The Fist" Salzman had all of her archives
quoted above NUKED- so the GOOGLE URLs no longer work BUT I had the foresight to
save them all as web pages knowing full well the pig would pull them.

Doc Tavish

--Alleged Chickenhawk, Ken McVay, Condoning Child Porn--
"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html
Verified by John Morris with Message ID:
cf214uoohhmoqblmv...@4ax.com

(For the record this child porn apologist is funded by B'nai Brith
as shown here: http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
B'nai Brith must condone pictures of "naked children" too!)

Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG-- does he
not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a person who
would say in general regarding child porn: "I am weary of seeing the
issue of "child porn" blown out of proportion (I've been on and
around the Net since 1988, and have yet to come across anything I'd
consider "child porn." I've seen photos of naked children, ... and
fail to see the harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
alone with your children?

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Jan 17, 2002, 1:46:34 AM1/17/02

On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 06:03:00 GMT, <3c4668d9.325056251@shawnews>
kml...@nospam.shaww.ca (Ken Lewis) wrote:

>On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 23:58:30 -0600, ^.^
><t-a-vi...@i-x.n-e-t-com.c-omRemove_ Hyphens 2_ Mail> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 05:39:26 GMT, <3c496353....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>>kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:

>>
>>>On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 23:37:03 -0600, ^.^
>>><t-a-vi...@i-x.n-e-t-com.c-omRemove_ Hyphens 2_ Mail> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:48:23 -0500,
>>>><jeffreygbrown-E6D...@news.alt.net> "Jeffrey G. Brown"
>>>><jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <sq4v2us0odig5nhq7...@4ax.com>, Poor Ol' Gutless
>>>>>Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will keep
>>>>>> posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it then shove it.

:
>Oh, Jeffrey, time to start posting Bradbury's sado-masochistic
>fantasies again.

Your side started posting old archives. Care toi deny it? Why be a sore loser
bastard when you recive in kind what you dish out? I, at least, show Sara's
entire post which your cowardly side does not do! Once again here is Sara
completed uncut or unedited:

Ken Lewis

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Jan 17, 2002, 2:07:16 AM1/17/02

On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 00:46:34 -0600, ^.^

<t-a-vi...@i-x.n-e-t-com.c-omRemove_ Hyphens 2_ Mail> wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 06:03:00 GMT, <3c4668d9.325056251@shawnews>
>kml...@nospam.shaww.ca (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 23:58:30 -0600, ^.^
>><t-a-vi...@i-x.n-e-t-com.c-omRemove_ Hyphens 2_ Mail> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 05:39:26 GMT, <3c496353....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>>>kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 23:37:03 -0600, ^.^
>>>><t-a-vi...@i-x.n-e-t-com.c-omRemove_ Hyphens 2_ Mail> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:48:23 -0500,
>>>>><jeffreygbrown-E6D...@news.alt.net> "Jeffrey G. Brown"
>>>>><jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <sq4v2us0odig5nhq7...@4ax.com>, Poor Ol' Gutless
>>>>>>Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will keep
>>>>>>> posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it then shove it.
>:
>>Oh, Jeffrey, time to start posting Bradbury's sado-masochistic
>>fantasies again.
>
>Your side started posting old archives. Care toi deny it? Why be a sore loser

Bwahahahaha.

I don't have a side, you morbidly obese fuck.

And the record shows it was you who started reposting old archives.
Stop being such a fucking wimp, you little snot, and admit it. It was
only then Jeffrey began reproducing *your* sado-masochistic fantasy
posts.

For someone who lies so much you'd think you might get good at it.
Instead you keep getting worse.

Now wipe your nose and stop being a cry baby.

^.^

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Jan 17, 2002, 2:43:06 AM1/17/02

On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:07:16 GMT, <3c497727.328718087@shawnews>
kml...@nospam.shaww.ca (Ken Lewis) wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 00:46:34 -0600, ^.^
><t-a-vi...@i-x.n-e-t-com.c-omRemove_ Hyphens 2_ Mail> wrote:

>>>>>>On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:48:23 -0500,
>>>>>><jeffreygbrown-E6D...@news.alt.net> "Jeffrey G. Brown"
>>>>>><jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In article <sq4v2us0odig5nhq7...@4ax.com>, Poor Ol' Gutless
>>>>>>>Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will keep
>>>>>>>> posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it then shove it.
:
>>>Oh, Jeffrey, time to start posting Bradbury's sado-masochistic
>>>fantasies again.
:

>>Your side started posting old archives. Care to deny it? Why be a sore loser?
:

>Bwahahahaha.
>
>I don't have a side, you morbidly obese fuck.

Name call is all you have. BTW your referring to me as a "fuck" makes me think
you want to bend me over and give me something up the keester. You aren't
showing your homosexual leanings again are you? FORGET IT!! I'm not that type.
Get your cookies off with one of your fellow kindred Nizkooks!

>And the record shows it was you who started reposting old archives.
>Stop being such a fucking wimp, you little snot, and admit it.

For a fact Sara Salzman and Jeffrey G. Brown were posting those same incomplete
Bruno posts over a year ago! Care to deny it? For a fact those archives of
Sara's S&M fantasies were just recently reposted which in effect is a returning
to her what she already dished out! Care to deny it?

Here is Sara back in the year 2000!

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=catamont-B7AB2D.19544628092000%40news.concentric.net&output=gplain
From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Confirmed: Yale F. Edeiken yet again has lied about Edeiken vs.
Bradbury.
Date: 29 Sep 2000 01:55:36 GMT
Message-ID: <catamont-B7AB2D...@news.concentric.net>

Such as: (Of course, these are mostly from 1997, but that's only because
Bradbury has become so unhinged that his more recent stuff is harassing _and_
delusional.)

On 04/16/1997:

"I do believe that Bruno would derive great pleasure in applying his
craft to Mr. Keren. Yes Bruno is from the old Bavarian School of
inquisitive ...

~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~

>And the record shows it was you who started reposting old archives.
>Stop being such a fucking wimp, you little snot, and admit it.
>It was only then Jeffrey began reproducing *your* sado-masochistic fantasy
>posts.

FALSE!!! Jeffrey was posting those old Bruno posts almost a year ago along with
Sara Salzman. Care to deny it?

I.E.

Here is Jeffrey back in the year 2000 parroting the same! Care to deny it?

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=jg_brown-1405002043430001%40cvg-27-166-003.cinci.rr.com&rnum=3
From: jg_b...@my-deja.com (Jeffrey G. Brown)
Subject: A sampling of Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie's threats
Date: 2000/05/14
Message-ID: <jg_brown-140...@cvg-27-166-003.cinci.rr.com>
In article <07716536...@usw-ex0102-016.remarq.com>, little worm
<patblakel...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:

>Yes there is Fragano. Scott has never made a direct threat like
>that.

Bullshit. Sara Salzman documented many such threats from Poor Ol' Gutless
Scottie. Some highlights:

"reach out and touch," "peel your skin off layer by layer," "You will see
no end to your pain," "peel you like an onion," "hoisting you up in
manacles," "you will pray for death," etc.

**************

On 04/16/1997:

"I do believe that Bruno would derive great pleasure in applying his craft

~~End of GOOGLE Excerpt~~

What have you to say now liar? Your side started it and now they whine when they
receive like in kind! I say f*ck you and drop dead you g.d. vermin!

>For someone who lies so much you'd think you might get good at it.
>Instead you keep getting worse.

You're the liar and you're getting worse at telling them too!

>Now wipe your nose and stop being a cry baby.

If anyone or any groups is/are being cry babies its those in your camp!

Care to prove I was posting Sara's S&M fantasies more than six weeks ago as
compared to how long ago Sara and Jeffrey were reposting my posts from 1997? You
and yours have not one g.d. bit of room to ever complain. Your side started it
and now that I send back what you have dished out you all start crying! It's the
same with every thing else too! Your side starts it and when you get back what
you sent out you all start crying foul!

Need I say more?

^.^

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Jan 17, 2002, 4:07:33 AM1/17/02

>From: kml...@nospam.shaww.ca (Ken Lewis)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>Subject: Re: Ken Lewis Once Again Proven to Be a Liar as Usual!! His Fellow Vermin Only Get What They Have Already Dished Out!
>Followup-To: alt.usenet.kooks
>Organization: Electriczen
>Message-ID: <3c468bc4.333996331@shawnews>

BTW you sniveling deceitful little bastard-- I restored the news groups this is
being posted to!

On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:35:07 GMT, <3c468bc4.333996331@shawnews>
kml...@nospam.shaww.ca (Ken Lewis) wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 01:43:06 -0600, ^.^

><t-a-vi...@i-x.n-e-t-com.c-omRemove_ Hyphens 2_ Mail> wrote:

>><excess header trimmed>
>
>>>>>>>>On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:48:23 -0500,
>>>>>>>><jeffreygbrown-E6D...@news.alt.net> "Jeffrey G. Brown"
>>>>>>>><jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>In article <sq4v2us0odig5nhq7...@4ax.com>, Poor Ol' Gutless
>>>>>>>>>Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>> As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will keep
>>>>>>>>>> posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it then shove it.
>
>>>>>Oh, Jeffrey, time to start posting Bradbury's sado-masochistic
>>>>>fantasies again.
>
>>>>Your side started posting old archives. Care to deny it? Why be a sore loser?
>
>>>Bwahahahaha.
>
>>>I don't have a side, you morbidly obese fuck.
:
>>Name call is all you have. BTW your referring to me as a "fuck" makes me think
>>you want to bend me over and give me something up the keester. You aren't
>>showing your homosexual leanings again are you? FORGET IT!! I'm not that type.
>>Get your cookies off with one of your fellow kindred Nizkooks!

:
>Hey, I'm not the one hanging around gay bars in Houston.

Care to substantiate that lie and libel you little bastard?

>I'll leave the chocalate road to you since you seem to be so facinated by it.

I only p;oint out what your crowd does as I do in the archive below about one of
your fellow suck-buddies hanging out in gay bars after watching the Gay Pride
Parade!

Libelous smear is about all you bastards have when you can't refute what I post
BUT for a fact your suck-buddy Patrick L. Humpboys hangs around gay bars in
Houston as his own words convict him of doing as I show here:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=szk7lohqqdx.fsf%40eris.io.com&output=gplain
From: pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: JESUS IS LORD
Date: 1999/07/03
Message-ID: <szk7loh...@eris.io.com>

AMIE...@spambegone.prodigy.net (Amie or KRC) writes:
:
>On 02 Jul 1999 15:09:38 -0500, pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey)
>wrote:
:
>>AMIE...@spambegone.prodigy.net (Amie or KRC) writes:

>>>On 02 Jul 1999 13:13:08 -0500, pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey)
>>>wrote:

>>>--cut--

>>>>Can you take your crap to a religious newsgroup? If I want to hear
>>>>sanctimonious sniveling from one of Oral's mindless drones, I'll drive up
>>>>S. Lewis past the campus...
:
>>>>--PLH, "have YOU found GOD?" "what, is he lost *again*?"
:
>>> Reminds me of a story that an attorney friend of mine told me about
>>>encountering a relgious nut at DFW airport. As my friend was making
>>>his way to his flight, the nut accosted him and asked: "Brother, have
>>>you seen the Lord?" My friend replied: "Yeah, he's at gate 28, now
>>>get the hell out of my way."
:
>>Sometimes, you just _have_ to oblige the religious droolers: Dale (the wife)
>>and I were out with a few friends a few years ago watching the zoo that used
>>to be Houston's infamous Westheimer Curve one Friday night, and when we were
>>accosted by one of the little mullahs-in-training passing out some
>>incomprehensible tracts with the same rote spiel: "Remember, Jesus loves
>>you!", one friend almost caused him to implode with her reply: "Yeah? Does
>>he use a condom?"
:
> What's the "Westheimer Curve"? I've never heard that term. Is that
>where Westheimer takes that small jog to enter the Montrose area from
>the west, or is it where it turns southbound east of Montrose? I know
>that area well, as we always hit the Magic Cauldron on Westheimer just
>east of Montrose when we're there. I also love the leather-boy mural
>on the bar across from Hollywood Video at Westheimer and Montrose.

The Curve is the five-block stretch of Westheimer that angles west-southwest
from Yoakum out to Mulberry, at which point it turns once more westward.
I don't know what shape the block between Montrose and Yoakum was in last
Saturday night for the Gay Pride parade, because Dale and I never got farther
east than in front of the Wendy's -- which means we didn't get to see the
eight-foot mirrored disco ball hanging over the Westheimer/Montrose
intersection. (It would have been better than the stupid rings hanging over
just about every signaled intersection around the Galleria, the ones that look
like they were ripped off from the set of "Stargate".)

>I've always wanted to photograph it and send it out as a postcard to
>my homophobic friends.

You should get a shot of Mary's, at Westheimer and Waughcrest -- it's always
had an attention-getting paint job of one sort or another since I was
commuting to college through there back in the 1970s. (I got a chuckle out of
one of the summer regulars painted on the mirrored front: "Air Conditioning
-- it's 69 (degree sign) Inside!".)

> We always stay inside the loop (usually at one of the hotels near
>Greenway Plaza) when we're down there, and Westheimer, Richmond, and
>Alabama between Montrose and the Galleria, as well as West U., are our
>normal stomping grounds. My fiance always has to hit a Randall's
>Flagship for cheap Sushi (and occasionally Miyako on Kirby if we have
>the cash), and we haunt many of the bookstores in the area. Even
>though it's part of a chain, I really like the Alabama Book Stop
>that's in the old movie theater.

I guess I'm getting old, but while I don't mind Bookstop being there, I miss
the old Alabama Theater. I was first exposed to The Rocky Horror Picture Show
there back when it was a Saturday night fixture.
(Next time you get down here, let me know -- I'm one of the Networking &
Telecommunications staff down the street at Rice University, so I get to spend
a bit of time in one of the more interesting bits of Baghdad on the Bayou...)

--Patrick L. "and amazingly enough, I'm *still* allowed into Tulsa :-)"
Humphrey

~~End of GOOGLE Exact Archive~~

It is your suck-buddy Patrick who attends gay bars after seeing c*ck sucker
pride parades! Care to deny it?

>>>And the record shows it was you who started reposting old archives.
>>>Stop being such a fucking wimp, you little snot, and admit it.
:
>>For a fact Sara Salzman and Jeffrey G. Brown were posting those same incomplete
>

>Yea. Yea. Yea.
>
>They aren't incomplete, asshole. They are an exact record of what you
>posted.

They are incomplete and you know the full archives are never shown!
First you act like I started it all and now that I prove you wrong you are
attempting to divert from your first lies!

>If you want them in context it will show you off in an even
>worse light than now, you perverse little sadist.

Compare what you just said above to the sentence which preceded it!
You are a pathological liar!

>Now wipe the snot from your nose and go to bed. It's late.

You can't stand to be proved to be a liar can you!?

Once again for the archives:

___. -*-

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Jan 17, 2002, 5:13:56 PM1/17/02

On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 04:55:36 -0500, <3C469F98...@hers.com> Susan Cohen
<fla...@hers.com> wrote:

>See how he cannot refrain from making these sick
>sex fantasies about people? He's got a real problem.

How have I made sick fantasies about people. One of your fellows claimed
I "hang around gay bars in Houston" to which I replied: "Care to substantiate
that lie and libel you little bastard?" and then I showed as a fact it is his
very own suck-buddy Patrick L. Humpboys who frequents Gay Bars in Houston.

Why do you accuse me of being a repressed homosexual because I point out the
lying hypocrisy of your fellow filth and vermin?

YOU ARE VERMIN TOO!

Doc Tavish

--Sara Salzman's husband "Joking" about a five year old girl:
"As the step-father of a five year old domme in training.."
-From: "Cougar" <cou...@cris.com>
-Subject: Re: Is A Switch More Sadistic Than A Sadist
-Date: 1997/04/04
-Message-ID: <01bc415c$7211d820$564153ce@default>

Paul Kneisel

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Jan 17, 2002, 5:34:43 PM1/17/02

On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 16:13:56 -0600, ___. -*-
<t-a-vi...@i-x.n-e-t-com.c-omRemove_ Hyphens 2_ Mail>
<r1je4ukn63u9gj7n5...@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 04:55:36 -0500, <3C469F98...@hers.com> Susan Cohen
><fla...@hers.com> wrote:
>
>>See how he cannot refrain from making these sick
>>sex fantasies about people? He's got a real problem.
>
>How have I made sick fantasies about people.

Among other things, Bradbury's invention of homosexual incestous fellatio.
Attributed to the otherguy of course, but Bradbury fantasy, Bradbury's
writings, Bradbury's publications.

>Why do you accuse me of being a repressed homosexual because I point out the
>lying hypocrisy of your fellow filth and vermin?
>

Yes. But the "exposure" of the "filth and vermin" consists largely of
attributing to his anti-fascist opponents all manner of sexual perversions,
following by charges that the engage in "lying hypocrisy" when they
challenge his fantasies.

______

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Jan 17, 2002, 7:33:15 PM1/17/02

On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:34:43 -0500, <h7ke4uk21qvnbn75g...@4ax.com>
Paul Kneisel <tall...@nyct.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 16:13:56 -0600, ___. -*-
><t-a-vi...@i-x.n-e-t-com.c-omRemove_ Hyphens 2_ Mail>
><r1je4ukn63u9gj7n5...@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 04:55:36 -0500, <3C469F98...@hers.com> Susan Cohen
>><fla...@hers.com> wrote:
>>
>>>See how he cannot refrain from making these sick
>>>sex fantasies about people? He's got a real problem.
:
>>How have I made sick fantasies about people.
:
>Among other things, Bradbury's invention of homosexual incestous fellatio.
>Attributed to the otherguy of course, but Bradbury fantasy, Bradbury's
>writings, Bradbury's publications.

Show where I invented:
1) Joel Rosenberg having two lesbian sisters
2) Patrick Humphrey attending Gay Pride Parades and visiting Gay Bars
3) Sara Salzman fisting herself
4) Sara Salzman wanting her titties whipped
5) Ken McVay looking at pictures of "naked children"
6) Michael Ragland visiting erotic news groups and jerking off
7) Sara Salzman's husband making whipping machines from ceiling fans
8) Susan Cohen is Gary Rumain

I SHOWED ALL THE POSTS WITH THEIR URLs AS PROOF!
IOW I invented nothing you stupid ignoramus!

>>Why do you accuse me of being a repressed homosexual because I point out the
>>lying hypocrisy of your fellow filth and vermin?
:
>Yes. But the "exposure" of the "filth and vermin" consists largely of
>attributing to his anti-fascist opponents all manner of sexual perversions,

I listed what they are documented as doing. If you don't think they're perverted
then that speaks volumes of you! Besides you are very sympathetic to homosexual
activism as well as communist activism as your web site shows as documented
here:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=p5b34uc88pnmdr15cbonu2dmji4gm89nuq%404ax.com&output=gplain
Reply-To: --t-a-v--...@i--x.ne-t-c-om.c-omRemove_ Hyphens 2_ Mail
Message-ID: <p5b34uc88pnmdr15c...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 Jan 2002 15:48:10 GMT

On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:22:42 -0500, <hp834ukao8gq8ftmj...@4ax.com>
Peter Outerbridge aka Paul Kneisel <tall...@nyct.net> wrote:

>Freedom Socialist Party
>International Executive Committee -- Solidarity Salon, 580 Sydney Road,
>Brunswick Vic 3056 AUSTRALIA -- Phone/fax: 61-3-9388-0062
>
>24 November 2001
>
>Mr. Greg Powell
>Head of Security
>Time Warner Cable / RoadRunner New York
>
>Dear Mr. Powell
>
>I'm writing on behalf of the International Executive Committee of the
>Freedom Socialist Party which represents the sections of our socialist
>feminist party in Australia, Canada and the United States of America to
>protest about the decision by Road Runner to stop providing service to
>anti-fascist activist, Paul Kneisel.
>
>We understand that the decision to pull his service is the result of a
>campaign of fascist cyberstalking.
>
>We are extremely concerned that RoadRunner has capitulated to this tactic
>by the right wing and urge you to reinstate Mr Kneisel's service
>immediately.
>
>
>Yours sincerely
>Alison Thorne
>International Executive Committee Coordinator

We all know what socialists are too! From one of my posts an excerpt:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=qa8t2ukdmm2rj3e9e9gfhghk0jkk8hm6a7%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Re: NYU Has Socialists/Marxists in Faculty. They Promote Their Agenda
as Well.
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 23:36:50 -0600
Message-ID: <qa8t2ukdmm2rj3e9e...@4ax.com>

On 30 Dec 2001 01:51:18 GMT, <20011229205118...@mb-cf.aol.com>
osugeo...@aol.com (Osugeography) wrote:

>Mr. Bradbury:
>
> Your "classic post" of 1998 does nothing to show that "Universities were
>infested with communism at that time."

So you say!

>You confuse Marxism, socialism, and democratic socialism with communism.

I know that socialism is just a stepping stone to communism and besides-- the
former Union of Soviet Socialist Republics had nothing to do with socialism
seeing how they were a communist totalitarian conglomerate!

Also consider this:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=0s23tt8qmduu3idu0dcsqtr27dubkobvma%404ax.com
Subject: Re: Keith Morrison Proves My Point! Most of Our Opposition Are
"Agnostic/Atheist" akaRe: Does Lomenzo lie like this in its professional life?
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 10:02:50 -0500
Message-ID: <0s23tt8qmduu3idu0...@4ax.com>

On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 03:53:09 -0600, <3BD14985...@polarnet.ca> Keith
Morrison <kei...@polarnet.ca> wrote:

>"Doc Tavish®" wrote:
>
>> Has everyone noticed the common traits of these "agnostic/atheists"?
>> They never condemn communism/socialism
:
>We'll ignore your inability to differentiate the two for a moment...

I know the differences which are few BUT as common they advocate redistribution
of wealth and a large centralized government. They are also opposed or in
opposition of private property. Some people even claim that socialism is a
transition stage to communism.

Socialism and communism are alike in that both are systems ...
... Socialism is the first step in the process of ... It is the necessary
transition stage from capitalism to communism. ...
www.marxmail.org/faq/socialism_and_communism.htm

Visions of Socialism
... 2. TRANSITION SOCIALISM = CRUDE COMMUNISM. -marxism-leninism - "orthodox"
socialism -transition stage from capitalism to "true communism" ...
Description: Notes explaining different varieties of socialism.
Category: Society > Politics > Socialism
www.ssc.upenn.edu/~szyrmer/e95f/e95f.notes.socialism.html

ISG - EMA - Communism
... That vision of transition towards communism as ... stage, generally called
‘socialism’, in which ... a higher stage, generally called ‘communism’, in which
... Description: Short essay by Ernest Mandel tracing the history of the
concept. Category: Society > Politics > Socialism > Marxism > Theorists >
Mandel, Ernest
www.zoo.co.uk/~z8001063/International-Socialist-Group/EMA/EMA%20-%20Comm.htm

Communism/Socialism vs Capitalism
... capitalism as the first stage followed by socialism ... Communism in Russia:
... To achieve the transition from Capitalism to socialism and finally communism
... www.unimelb.edu.au/tisp/kids/vm/julien/j-ism.html

Workers Power Global | Marxism for Beginners
... Transition to communism. ... refined the concept of a “transition society”
and introduced the ... phases. In the first stage, “socialism” as he called it
... www.workerspower.com/wpglobal/transitiontocommunism.html

http://www.pg.net/users/c/charconet/to_each_according.htm
"To each according to her needs"
by David Schwartzman, geologist at Howard University, Washington, D.C.
Taken from: Committtee of Correspondence
http://garnet.berkeley.edu:3333/.left/CoC/.dandi/.di4/.di4.08.htm

The stimulus for writing this essay came out of the ongoing effort within the
left to reconstitute a new vision of socialism. To date, I find a healthy
openness to new ways of thinking about the relation of democracy to the
socialist project, and a renewed committment to struggle "in the long haul".
However, except for the attempts at scientific utopias [1] in the Green and
futurist literature, there is little in the new declarations of socialists [2]
that excites the imagination. This short-coming will surely be a handicap in
attracting youth. We are not being as "radical as reality itself", to borrow a
phrase from Lenin. [3] The ecological question is still being relegated to a
laundry list of needs and demands, instead of being at the heart of our vision.
And, in the apparent desire to avoid alienating potential recruits, many
marxists/ socialists are avoiding the "C" word (Communism) like the plague.

Let us recall for a moment Marx and Engels' concept of socialism as the lower
stage of communism and, thus, a transition between capitalism and the higher
stage of communism..... <end>

WHAT HAVE YOU TO SAY NOW KEITH?

I say TOUCHE'

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

Peter Outerbridge aka Paul Kneisel is RED to the core and that is why he calls
those who don't share his communistic views as fascists.

Anyone who is familiar with the smear campaigns of Peter Outerbridge who hides
behind the nym of Paul Kneisel is well aware of how he likes to label people
"fascists" but to Peter anyone to the right of Karl Marx is a fascist!

Here is some information on this mentally disturbed and delusional communist:

<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>

Here is what his web site reflected in October 2001:

http://www.anti-fascism.org/page-links-trad.html
Traditional Anti-Fascist Groups

Fascism victimized many groups with its crimes against humanity.
One of its more horrible characteristics was its propensity to target people on
the basis of race/ethnicity or genetics (like the handicapped). The other was to
destroy groups who were otherwise apolitical. Many of these different formations
essentially missed the virulent nature of fascist ideology in the early period.
Most Jewish groups, for example, treated fascism as just another anti-Semitic
ideology, little different from those it faced before. Three groups, however,
understood the special nature of fascism even before it took power. They were,
respectively, the labor movement, the socialists, and the communists.

Jewish Bundist Organization - Warszawa A continuation of the German Jewish Labor
Federation ("Bund") http://msanews.mynet.net/Scholars/Weizfeld/decl-eng.htm
("Bund")
The Second 'Socialist' International
http://www.socialistinternational.org/
Reflecting the politics of the Third 'Communist' International
http://www.yclusa.org/links/wrldlink.html

<end>

BTW that link Peter Outerbridge aka Paul Kneisel gives
http://www.yclusa.org/links/wrldlink.html shows:

World Communist Movement Links
The communist movement of youth, students and young workers is on the move in
most countries today. Check out the activities of communist youth organizations
from this partial list of links.

Link Notes
Kommunistischer Studentinn/ en Verband (KSV) Communist Students Union of Austria
Kommunistische Jugend Österreichs (KJÖ) Communist Youth of Austria
Coletius de Juventut Comunista de Catalunya (CJC) Communist Youth of Catalonia
Juventud Comunista Colombiana (JUCO) Colombian Young Communists
United Democratic Youth Organization of Cyprus (EDON)
Kommunistisk Parti i Danmark Ungdom (KPID-U) Youth of the Communist Party in
Denmark
Mouvement Jeunes Communistes du France (MCJF) Movement of Young Communists of
France
Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterjugend (SDAJ) Socialist German Workers Youth
Communist Youth of Greece (KNE)
Workers Youth Party of Ireland (WPY)
Giovani Communisti /e (GC) Young Communists of Italy
Democratic Youth League of Japan (DYLJ)
Norges Kommunistiske Ungdomsforbund (NKU) Norwegian Communist Youth Union
Juventude Comunista Portuguesa (JCP) Portugese Communist Youth.
Sveriges Kommunistiska Ungdomsförbund (SKU) Swedish Communist Youth Union
Union de Juventudes Communistas de España Union of Young Communists of Spain

YCL-USA
235 West 23rd Street,
New York, NY 10011
phone: 212-741-2016
fax: 212-229-1713
e-mail: y...@yclusa.org

<<BTW why is it every Communist/Socialist vermin organization based
in New York City?>>

What GEEKTOOLS shows about <yclusa.org>
http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi

Registrant:
Young Communist League (YCLUSA-DOM)
235 W 23rd St
New York, NY 10011 US

Domain Name: YCLUSA.ORG

Administrative Contact, Billing Contact:
Smith, Israel (ISA35) ism...@CPUSA.ORG
Young Communist League
235 W. 23rd St., 6th flr.
New York , NY 10011
(212) 741-2016 (FAX) (212) 229-1713

<end>

Funny the head commie has as his first name the name of "Israel"!
How apropos! I bet Peter Outerbridge and Israel have meetings together too!

Just look at the Young Communist's Links:
http://www.yclusa.org/links/proglink.html