> Are you proud of your history? Are you proud of the suffering you caused
> to so many people in the world?
>
> Had your mothers not given birth to you, the world would be a better place.
etc., etc ......
I am a Jew living in Germany. I reckon you could hardly accuse me of
anti-semitism. However, I must say I find your diatribes in the
soc.culture.german newsgroup to be hysterical, twisted and nauseating (and
maybe I should also say unbalanced!). I will certainly try to avoid ever
having to read any of your postings again, and wish you would stop sending
your stuff to this newsgroup (and indeed the other cultural and political
newsgroups you seem to think are interested in your rantings) . Why don't
you post your items to a so-called (anti-)racist newsgroup instead, where
your sentiments might well be echoed?
Your type of contribution has no place here. Who agrees with me?
There are quite a few of us that have been echoing the same sentiment
about Herman's rantings. To Herman anyone that disagrees with him has to
be a Jew hating Nazi! His side has no logic or rationale in any of their
refutations for all they can do is name call.
Herman is by far the most racist person I've had the misfortune to
encounter! He is typical of what the mainstream American media term a
fanatic. I belive that he is a member of the JDL cult.
Gunther Schiller aka Sir Tavish's humble butler
I read your post and when I tried to reply it did not function.
You are upset because I an an Anti-Racist and Anti-Nazi.
Do you also get angry at the many Anti-Jew, pro Neo Nazi posts under
soc.culture.german ?
For your information. I do not start these posts. I RESPOND to many
Anti-Jew or Racist or Neo Nazi posts AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO
EVERY TIME I SEE A NAZI REVISIONIST POST.
Herman
Whenever he posts his Nazi revisionist garbage I RESPOND.
He sends his Nazi propaganda to soc.culture.german I RESPOND
I WILL CONTINUE AS LONG AS I SEE RACIST, NEO NAZI or NAZI REVISIONST
POSTS.
I continue to receive favorable e-mails from Germany, particularly young
Germans who are proud of the new Postwar Germany.
I also get e-mail from Neo-Nazis who do not like my posts or replies.
Gunther Schiller wrote:
> >
> > etc., etc ......
> >
> > I am a Jew living in Germany. I reckon you could hardly accuse me of
> > anti-semitism. However, I must say I find your diatribes in the
> > soc.culture.german newsgroup to be hysterical, twisted and nauseating (and
> > maybe I should also say unbalanced!). I will certainly try to avoid ever
> > having to read any of your postings again, and wish you would stop sending
> > your stuff to this newsgroup (and indeed the other cultural and political
> > newsgroups you seem to think are interested in your rantings) . Why don't
> > you post your items to a so-called (anti-)racist newsgroup instead, where
> > your sentiments might well be echoed?
> >
> > Your type of contribution has no place here. Who agrees with me?
>
> However, I must say I find your diatribes in the soc.culture.german
> newsgroup to be hysterical, twisted and nauseating
I did not see that person's message in soc.culture.german, but I would
like to respond to your comment. I am a supporter of the Holocaust
revisionists. I do not believe the official version of the Holocaust;
specifically, the numbers of Jews who were killed, and the existance
of execution gas chambers. I am telling you this so you know where I
stand.
I have seen hateful, vile people on BOTH sides of the fence. However,
these people are a minority, so I don't think that we should allow
them to spoil our quest for truth. I am a firm believer in free
speech, and I respect people's right to hold whatever beliefs they
like, provided they are not criminal (hate laws and other politically
motivated laws excepted). Even though the people in this newsgroup
hold different and opposing views, we should still act in a polite,
respectful manner.
Here's an example: a representative from the Jewish Defense League (or
at least a supporter) posted an article about Jewish nationalism. I
asked him why his fellow Jews are promoting multiculturalism and
racial diversity in Canada. I also asked him is Israel has an
official multiculturalism policy. I will also add this question: does
Israel accept third-world refugees? If you can provide me with a good
answer to these questions, I would appreciate it.
What in the world would Israel have to do with facts about World WarII.
If you want to revise history- help youself. You probably could get
help from the Russian Communitsts- they were good at revisionism too.
Herman
>Here's an example: a representative from the Jewish Defense League (or
>at least a supporter) posted an article about Jewish nationalism. I
>asked him why his fellow Jews are promoting multiculturalism and
>racial diversity in Canada. I also asked him is Israel has an
>official multiculturalism policy. I will also add this question: does
>Israel accept third-world refugees? If you can provide me with a good
>answer to these questions, I would appreciate it.
I don't know why this is in talk.politics.european-union.
However, as I understand Israeli politics, there are many Jews in Israel
promoting multiculturalism and diversity, and many who want to work with the
Palestinians. I also believe that most of Israel's population consists of
refugees, many of them from the Third World. As to your deleted doubts about
the holocaust -- I've been to Germany many times, love the country and it
speople, have seen a lot of the evidence -- concentration camps, etc, and
have read the histories, even talking to a KZ survivor. I have no doubt that
the official version you allude to is indeed correct. If you doubt it, I
suggest you double check the sources you believe. Holocaust revisionists are
usually anti-semites with an agenda, who fudge their data. Neutral analyses
have consistently shown them to be wrong, and the 'official' version
correct: 11 million dead, six million of them Jews.
cheers, scott
Prove that I am a Nazi! We don't want your opinion, we want facts! Not
stuff just cut and pasted either! Herman it is your tactics that breed
anti-Semitism, which you want anyway because there is great political
power in being a victim!
> Whenever he posts his Nazi revisionist garbage I RESPOND.
> He sends his Nazi propaganda to soc.culture.german I RESPOND
> I WILL CONTINUE AS LONG AS I SEE RACIST, NEO NAZI or NAZI REVISIONST
> POSTS.
> I continue to receive favorable e-mails from Germany, particularly young
> Germans who are proud of the new Postwar Germany.
>
> I also get e-mail from Neo-Nazis who do not like my posts or replies.
>
> Gunther Schiller wrote:
I did not send you any E-Mail Herman nor did Gunther! YOU LIE! It would
be very simple to show me up. All you have to do is produce the header
and the letter that was allegedley sent by us which you can't! Sooner or
later Herman your tricks will backfire on you! Many people have noticed
your cut and paste techniques too! I am not the only one you have done
this to and we will expose you! Produce the header and all the letter
Herman and not some cut and paste stuff!
Doc Tavish
> > > etc., etc ......
> > >
> > > I am a Jew living in Germany. I reckon you could hardly accuse me of
> > > anti-semitism. However, I must say I find your diatribes in the
> > > soc.culture.german newsgroup to be hysterical, twisted and nauseating (and
> > > maybe I should also say unbalanced!). I will certainly try to avoid ever
> > > having to read any of your postings again, and wish you would stop sending
> > > your stuff to this newsgroup (and indeed the other cultural and political
> > > newsgroups you seem to think are interested in your rantings) . Why don't
> > > you post your items to a so-called (anti-)racist newsgroup instead, where
> > > your sentiments might well be echoed?
> > >
> > > Your type of contribution has no place here. Who agrees with me?
> >
Yes Gunther sent the below to Germany but not to you!
> > There are quite a few of us that have been echoing the same sentiment
> > about Herman's rantings. To Herman anyone that disagrees with him has to
> > be a Jew hating Nazi! His side has no logic or rationale in any of their
> > refutations for all they can do is name call.
> > Herman is by far the most racist person I've had the misfortune to
> > encounter! He is typical of what the mainstream American media term a
> > fanatic. I belive that he is a member of the JDL cult.
> > Gunther Schiller aka Sir Tavish's humble butler
Herman this trick only lets me know personally just how desperate your
side truly is!
us...@host.de wrote in article
<user-25029...@p600.lb.tu-berlin.de>...
> In article <3310BD...@mindspring.com>, grea...@mindspring.com
wrote:
> (by way of example)
>
> > Are you proud of your history? Are you proud of the suffering you
caused
> > to so many people in the world?
> >
> > Had your mothers not given birth to you, the world would be a better
place.
>
> etc., etc ......
>
>
> I am a Jew living in Germany. I reckon you could hardly accuse me of
> anti-semitism. However, I must say I find your diatribes in the
> soc.culture.german newsgroup to be hysterical, twisted and nauseating
(and
> maybe I should also say unbalanced!). I will certainly try to avoid ever
> having to read any of your postings again, and wish you would stop
sending
> your stuff to this newsgroup (and indeed the other cultural and political
> newsgroups you seem to think are interested in your rantings) . Why don't
> you post your items to a so-called (anti-)racist newsgroup instead, where
> your sentiments might well be echoed?
>
> Your type of contribution has no place here. Who agrees with me?
>
> I agree with you and shall not be reading these postings again. Obviously
the sender is of very low intelligence,and self esteem and needs help.
On the same newsgroup. soc.culture.german a vicious Nazi with a wild
diatribe against "Jews dripping with spittle".
And you don't find that offensive.
And you haven't replied to that person.
BUT You attack my Anti-Nazi sentiments and not the Nazi's.
Strange isn't it.
Herman
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Herman wrote:
> On the same newsgroup. soc.culture.german a vicious Nazi with a wild
> diatribe against "Jews dripping with spittle".
> And you don't find that offensive.
> And you haven't replied to that person.
> BUT You attack my Anti-Nazi sentiments and not the Nazi's.
Bull writes:
Herman not everybody sees someone that disagrees with him\her as being a
Nazi as you do. You will not come to grips with your own fanatic and
most unbalanced bigotry!
Bull McTavish also writes:
Herman not everybody takes your maniac ravings seriously. In fact you
are very ignorant and the woman has you pegged correctly. You still
haven't shown any evidence that I am a Nazi! You accuse and you bad
mouth BUT you are self justified. Herman you are only a legend in your
own mind! Live with it! Another example of Herman's stupidity and
bigotry appears below. [See article Nazis Must Be Kept in Check....]
Herman:
> Strange isn't it.
Bull:
No IT isn't strange but YOU are!
> Herman
Bull writes:
This is another German that told Herman he was wrong:
Subject:
Re: Nazis Must Be Kept in Check- They Kill Children
Date:
Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:46:44 GMT
From:
Hartmut...@post.rwth-aachen.de (Hartmut Schmitz)
Organization:
Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik
Newsgroups:
soc.culture.europe, alt.revisionism, soc.history,
soc.culture.german,
soc.culture.nordic, talk.politics.misc,
talk.politics.european-union
References:
1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6
>It was thw will of the whole German Nation.
[Bull writes: See Herman's true bigotry? How can he escape this?]
>Why did you kill Anne Frank?
>Herman
> It was not the whole German Nation!
> I did not kill Anne Frank!
>
> Think BEFORE writing such things in groups where 1000s of people read
> it.
>
> HS
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Will Herman ever learn or will he wind up in a real stew?
Herman have you ever considered getting counseling for your blind hate
and for your obvious naziphobia? I will chip in if you really want to be
helped!
Bull McTavish
>Herman not everybody takes your maniac ravings seriously. In fact you
>are very ignorant...
... but Bradbury doesn't "make it [his] policy" to engage in personal attacks.
> [...deletia...]
>Another example of Herman's stupidity and bigotry appears below.
... but Bradbury doesn't "make it [his] policy" to engage in personal attacks.
JGB
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Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@pol.com
"What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'