A simple question for Ken McVay..
Doc Tavish
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:20:23 -0500, Doc Tavish
><doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:11:48 -0400, <9kvqek$7t7$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com>
>>"Blakely" <patbl...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Do you have any ties whatsoever to the San Antonio Foundation at this time?
:
>>He will either dodge you or make personal attack! Just watch.
:
>The answer has been provided for you in this newsgroup several times yesterday,
>Pat. As well, Ken provided you the answer directly last year.
>
>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/ftp.py?people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
>
>
>From kmc...@nizkor.org Thu Jun 1 21:09:22 EDT 2000
>Article: 747674 of alt.revisionism
>Path: hub.org!hub.org!not-for-mail
>From: kmc...@vex.net (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>Subject: Re: The embezzlement question McVay refuses to answer
>Date: 2 Jun 2000 01:04:24 GMT
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
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>"Blakely" wrote in message
>news:282e6175...@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com...
>> What did you do with the $50,000 given to you to start a Nizkor
>> operation in San Antonio? Since you claim you don't have a San
>> Antonio operation, is it safe to say that you simply embezzled
>> the money?
:
>No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
>Area Foundation. $40,000 was invested, at the direction of the donor,
>in the purchase of two Sun computer systems. $10,000 was invested in
>an endowment fund in accordance with the regulations set by the San
>Antonio Area Foundation. The San Antonio Area Foundation has never
>paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge. They have, however,
>invested the donation as they were directed and legally bound to do.
<<Doc Tavish question August 10, 2001: Was the donation invested in either the
NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST FUND? snicker snicker>>
>The computers are in use to this day, confronting and refuting
>Holocaust denial, but I have nothing to do with their operation,
>maintanence or development.
>
>You can verify their existence by visiting
>http://www.holocaust-history.org and http://thhp.org.
>
>I have no association with either organization, and never have. Should
>you have further questions, I suggest that you contact Robert
>Washington, Patrick Groff, Mark S. Freedman or Harry W. Mazal, OBE,
>who are collectively responsible for the fund and the machines.
>
>You can write to them in care of the San Antonio Area Foundation,
>http://www.saafdn.org/
>
>> Or did you lie (you seem to be good at that lately) about not
>> having a Nizkor connection in San Antonio?
>
>I have no connection in San Antonio, and neither does Nizkor. Get used
>to it.
>
>--
>The Nizkor Project - An electronic Holocaust educational resource
> David Irving vrs. Deborah Lipstadt & Penguin Books Ltd: Judgment
>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/i/irving-david/judgment-00-00.html
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/i/irving.david/libel.suit
Strange McVay denies having any connection to the San Antonio Area Foundation
and that he claims as you (Ken Lewis) showed above: "The San Antonio Area
Foundation has never paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge... I have no
connection in San Antonio, and neither does Nizkor. Get used to it." YET here is
what the San Antonio Area Foundation showed as recipients in the year 2000
report:
www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
Text version:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:A4EjSpXxe8Q:www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf+NIZKOR+ENDOWMENT+FUND+ADDRESS+TELEPHONE&hl=en
This is the text version of the PDF file http://www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf.
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address telephone
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San Antonio Area Foundation
Annual Report 2000
Annual Report 2000
San Antonio Area Foundation
Growing to Give, Giving to Grow
[...]
Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
Nizkor Fund
[...]
S A N A N T O N I O A R E A F O U N DAT I O N
Post Office Box 120366 I San Antonio, Texas 78212
210-225-2243 I 210-225-1980 Fax
w w w. s a a f d n . o r g
~~End of San Antonio Foundation Report For 2000~~
Ouch! I bet you feel like you have just been whacked up side your head now!
How does it feel being a sycophant to a proven liar and con man?
Now make personal attack as usual and avoid the cold hard truths!
BTW folks I have to add as a reminder that Ken McVay did claim as shown by his
defender Ken Lewis: "The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me..." YET
Ken McVay has posted such words as:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=9334lf%241nlt%241%40news.tht.net
>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
>Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>Date: 2001-01-04 16:32:12 PST
>
> The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
>States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
>from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
<<The above is more denial which flies in the face of what McVay posted at other
times as shown just below.>>
<end>
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From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 1997/06/05
In article <5n400d$s...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (William "Ian
McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:
>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just
The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana)
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=17&selm=5m1sqg%24rse%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: Nizkor under B'nai B'rith auspices?!
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 1997/05/22
In article <5m11au$4...@access1.digex.net>, mst...@access.digex.net wrote:
> As you could tell from the Nizkor web page, Nizkor's funding in Canada
>is now coordinated through the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society,
>an independent organization. In the United States, it is channeled
>through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area Foundation, which is a San
>Antonio umbrella organization something like the United Way.
Zikaron remains a supporter of the Nizkor Project, but Canaidan
_national_ funding is now managed by the B'nai Brith Foundation, in
Toronto. B'nai Brith Foundation does not, however, support Nizkor
financially - it simply receives donations from the public, issues
receipts if the donations exceed $10, and disperses donated funds as
required.
In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San
Antonio Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization....
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Looks like McVay has lied repeatedly about his San Antonio money launderer!
Have a good day now!
Doc Tavish
Doc Tavish
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: BabbleTubby's Bullshit
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC)Message-ID: <9l2g72$23od$1...@news.tht.net>
On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC), <9l2g72$23od$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>
>[TubbyBlubber excised]
Name call and personal attack is all you losers have! You can't refute what I
post based on facts alone so you delete my documented proofs and then lay on
personal attack. Have you any idea of how you look to all people reading this? I
don't mind you two making fools of yourselves because it buttresses my viewpoint
and stand.
>> As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no
>> endowment fund nor a trust fund.
Is that so? Why does NIZKOR have these links at their web site which mentions
both? Care to answer based on the facts and reality or will you delete what
follows and then make personal attack again like the loser you are?
MY PROOF:
<START>
<FAIR USE INTENDED -- NON-PROFIT>
http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. The League is a
national volunteer organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism,
racism and bigotry, and to promoting human rights for all Canadians.
Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation may
call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the receptionist
that they wish to make a donation to the Nizkor Project; If you prefer,
you can print this form and send to:
The Nizkor Project
c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
Name:________________________________________
Street Address:________________________________________________
City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
E-Mail Address:_________________________________
Amount Enclosed: $___________
Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's
memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to
build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft
with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human
Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)
Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]
<STOP>
As a review Ken Lewis mockingly claimed:
>> As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no
>> endowment fund nor a trust fund.
Whereas NIZKOR'S very own link showed above:
"...add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's memo section.
A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to build the
Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque
or draft with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only.
(All bequests should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund.."
I bet that feels just like getting slapped upside your hard head
with a black jack doesn't it Ken Lewis?
Now once again I ask these questions and I (as well as everyone else
reading this) deserve some straight answers not unless of course, you
all have something to hide!
Now for the questions addressed to Ken McVay:
1) Who are the directors of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND?
2) Who are the directors of the NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
a) What is the address of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND and
NIZKOR TRUST FUND so that books may be examined about expenditures?
b) What groups or organizations have been the beneficiaries of
the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND?
3) What are the assets of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND and the
NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
4) Are either the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST fund
tax-exempt? (We know that you claim your Nizkor web site is neither a
registered charity nor a non-profit organization.)
5) Is either the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST FUND
on file with the CCRA?
6) Do you personally receive any monies or other assets or financial
perks (house, automobile, etc.) from the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the
NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
For a fact neither the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND nor the NIZKOR TRUST FUND
are known by the Better Business Bureau of British Columbia (where you Nizkor
has it's P.O. Box mail drop)!
http://204.228.135.156/van/search.html
BBB Serving Mainland B.C. Database Search
TIP: Normally you would only enter a part of the company's name and search
on that. If you put information in other fields, then the search will only
bring up companies that match ALL of the search criteria. You should
usually leave most of the fields blank.
Company Name:
I entered NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND and this is what I got:
http://204.228.135.156/van/results.html
No entries fit these critieria.
I entered NIZKOR TRUST FUND and this is what I got:
http://204.228.135.156/van/results.html
No entries fit these critieria.
My proof that Ken McVay's Nizkor is a P.O. Mail Box drop without a street
address:
http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi
Registrant:
The Nizkor Project
P.O. Box 244, Station A
Nanaimo, BC V9R5K9 CA
Domain: NIZKOR.ORG
Administrative Contact:
McVay, Kenneth KMC...@VERITAS.NIZKOR.ORG
P.O. Box 244, Station A
Nanaimo, BC V9R5K9 CA
More questions:
7) Care to explain why two major FUNDS aren't acknowledged by the
BBB in your area?
>Incorrect. The San Antonio Area Foundation maintains an endowment fund
>for any organization they support. Ten per cent of all monies donated
>go directly into an endownment fund, so that, eventually, the fund
>will fuel itself.
>
>SAAF bylaws state that the first $10,000 donated must go into the
>creation of an endownment fund maintained as a part of the trust.
>
>
>That endowment fund, however, has absolutely nothing to do with the
>Nizkor Project, nor has the Nizkor Project ever benefited from such a
>fund.
Once again you are caught lying through your teeth Ken McVay! The San Antonio
Area Foundation lists the "Nizkor Fund" as a recipient on their Year 2000 Report
and YOU, yourself, have previously posted that the San Antonio Area Foundation
provided Nizkor with American donations. Care to remain in denial and deny the
following documented proofs?
www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
Text version:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:A4EjSpXxe8Q:www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf+NIZKOR+ENDOWMENT+FUND+ADDRESS+TELEPHONE&hl=en
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address telephone
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San Antonio Area Foundation
Annual Report 2000
Annual Report 2000
San Antonio Area Foundation
Growing to Give, Giving to Grow
[...]
Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
Nizkor Fund
[...]
S A N A N T O N I O A R E A F O U N DAT I O N
Post Office Box 120366 I San Antonio, Texas 78212
210-225-2243 I 210-225-1980 Fax
w w w. s a a f d n . o r g
~~End of San Antonio Foundation Report For 2000~~
Oooops! Looks like you're really caught in some very bad lies now Ken!
Do you now wish to reverse your position about being connected with the San
Antonio Foundation?
Remember this?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=9334lf%241nlt%241%40news.tht.net
>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
>Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>Date: 2001-01-04 16:32:12 PST
>
> The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
>States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
>from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
>
> [...]
Everyone remember the key statement made above and place special emphasis on the
part in which Nizkor's Ken McVay stated: "The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has
ever received any money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund""
Compare what Nizkor's Ken McVay claimed above to what follows!!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=9&selm=5n6ib9%24f3h%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 1997/06/05
In article <5n400d$s...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (William "Ian
McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:
>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just
The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana)
Ergo, I have made no such "admission."
[...]
> the ADL directs funding to Nizkor.
The ADL has absolutely nothing to do with my funding. Canadian
funding is collected and dispersed by the League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada, which is not part of the ADL, although it is
associated with that organization (and a good many others) as a
partner. The League is strictly Canadian, and its Director does not
work for, or report to, the ADL, which is an American group.
(Sorry...)
The B'nai Brith Foundation, which receives funds donated to The
Nizkor Project by Canadians, and which issues tax receipts, neither
funds my work...
[...]
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
>I am compelled once again remind Mr. Ellis, and thus Mr. Bradbury, that my
>challenge stands:
>
>If you have any _evidence_ that The Nizkor Project has _any_ sort of
>organization in the United States, produce it.
>
>While waiting for Don Ellis (or anyone else in the Wading Pool) to
>produce evidence that there exists some sort of "Nizkor Organization"
>in San Antonio, Texas, I have archived 64 new files.
>
><end>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=17&selm=5m1sqg%24rse%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: Nizkor under B'nai B'rith auspices?!
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 1997/05/22
In article <5m11au$4...@access1.digex.net>, mst...@access.digex.net wrote:
> As you could tell from the Nizkor web page, Nizkor's funding in Canada
>is now coordinated through the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society,
>an independent organization. In the United States, it is channeled
>through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area Foundation, which is a San
>Antonio umbrella organization something like the United Way.
Zikaron remains a supporter of the Nizkor Project, but Canadian
_national_ funding is now managed by the B'nai Brith Foundation, in
Toronto. B'nai Brith Foundation does not, however, support Nizkor
financially - it simply receives donations from the public, issues
receipts if the donations exceed $10, and disperses donated funds as
required.
In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San
Antonio Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization....
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Looks like McVay has lied about his San Antonio money launderer!
How is the money funneled from San Antonio to your pockets Ken?
BTW the recent readout for <mazal.org> aka San Antonio Foundation shows:
http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi
Registrant:
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM)
600 Sandau Suite 400
San Antonio, TX 78216 US
Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
Mazal, Harry (HM1296) hma...@TXDIRECT.NET
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC
600 Sandau
Suite 400
San Antonio, TX 78216
210-377-2422
Record last updated on 15-Mar-2001.
Record expires on 28-Jun-2006.
Record created on 27-Jun-1997.
Database last updated on 10-Aug-2001 05:28:00 EDT.
<end>
>It's entertaining watching BlubberBabble try to make sense of it all,
>and it's worth noting that he hasn't contacted any of the people at
>SAAF for further information, as I suggested. That suggests that, as
>always, he doesn't give a rat's ass for the truth.
I tried contacting Harry Mazal twice and he never replied BUT the evidence
above more than adequately condemns you!
>Duh.
Yeah- personal attack and belittlement is ALL you have and I am glad that you
act in the manner you do so all who read this will wise up to the fact that a
web site is "sponsored" with "exempt donations" acts in the manner that you do.
In America people who are exposed and proven to be flim-flam men are dealt with
by the masses. Just look what has happened to televangelists who were caught
abusing exempt donations and/or proven to be disingenuous liars and knaves.
Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker paid dearly for their abuses and one of the
officers of the United Way paid dearly for abusing exempt donations. Try to come
to America and run NIZKOR like you do in the liberal bastion of Canada and see
how long you last! Perhaps this is why you left America in the first place- we
demand accountability of ALL organizations/entities which receive exempt
donations!
Once again:
1) Who are the directors of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND?
2) Who are the directors of the NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
a) What is the address of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND and
NIZKOR TRUST FUND so that books may be examined about expenditures?
b) What groups or organizations have been the beneficiaries of
the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND?
3) What are the assets of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND and the
NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
4) Are either the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST fund
tax-exempt? (We know that you claim your Nizkor web site is neither a
registered charity nor a non-profit organization.)
5) Is either the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST FUND
on file with the CCRA?
6) Do you personally receive any monies or other assets or financial
perks (house, automobile, etc.) from the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the
NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
You would be compelled to answer the questions above if your NIZKOR was an
American based web site which received "exempt donations." Care to name any
other web site either in Canada or America which receives funding as you do or
has an ENDOWMENT or TRUST fund and operates from a backroom of their own
residence?
Yes people it is true. Nizkor is nothing more than a web site operated from a
backroom of Ken McVay's very own personal residence! Here's my proof and will he
deny it?
http://www.geocities.com/dcjarviks/Idler/vIn15.html
(Link active for verification August 10, 2001)
"A Voyage to Nanaimo-- It takes two hours to cross the Georgia Strait by
ferry from Vancouver, British Columbia, another half-hour by jitney from
the Nanaimo terminal to reach the home of Kenneth N. McVay, webmaster for
The Nizkor Project . The address is an ordinary suburban split-level in a
middle-class neighborhood. There is nothing distinctive about its
location. .... I am taken to a back room, filled with computer equipment,
monitors, and books... Seated in front of the array is McVay, apparently a
50-something computer nerd. He is tall, thin, with short hair and glasses,
wired to the world through his ISP. The Nizkor project which McVay runs
from this room in the back of his house... " <END>
There is not one American ENDOWMENT or TRUST fund which is above not having to
name its directors, officers, address, assets etc.
Let your pal Yale F. Edeiken make all the threats he wishes against me for
exposing your scam but the GOOGLE archives will be added to with posts such as
this and as time goes by more and more people will see NIZKOR for what it is!
BTW Ken did you pay taxes on that $50,000.00 you received from the San Antonio
Area Foundation as shown in this article?
From: "Blakely" <patbl...@mailandnews.com>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: So Nizkor didn't receive $50,000 ?? Major US newspaper says he did.
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:43:34 -0400
Message-ID: <9kvsat$8v5$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com>
I guess The San Antonio Express-Times lied also when they published this in
their paper eh Ken?
Just confess, you got the money.
1996-08-03
Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten
Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer
"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a solemn promise
Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet so that people
will never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now his task has gotten a
little easier with a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San Antonio Area
Foundation to the Nizkor Project, an international computer web site
directed by the 55-year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island,
Canada.The Nizkor project not only provides information on Hitler's bloody
pogroms but is also intended to counter the claims of "deniers" (as McVay
calls them)...
http://archives1.newsbank.com/ar-search/we/Archives?p_action=search&p_perpag
e=20&s_search_type=keyword&p_text_base=nizkor&p_field_psudo-sort-0=psudo-sor
t&p_sort=_rank_%3AD&p_field_Source-0=Source&p_field_date-0=YMD_date&p_params
_date-0=date%3AB%2CE&p_text_date-0=&p_field_YMD_date-0=YMD_date&p_field_YMD_
date-0=YMD_date&p_params_YMD_date-0=date%3AB%2CE&xcal_ranksort=4&xcal_usewei
ghts=yes&%5B+Search+%5D.x=47&%5B+Search+%5D.y=17
<end>
The CCRA may be interested in collecting some back taxes and penalties!
You can count on them being advised of this situation.
Sincerely yours,
Scott Bradbury aka Doc Tavish
--
"For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which none of your adversaries
will be able to withstand or contradict." Son of Man {Luke 21:15 RSV}
Ken Lewis
<doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>Subject: BabbleTubby's Bullshit
>Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Message-ID: <9l2g72$23od$1...@news.tht.net>
>
>On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC), <9l2g72$23od$1...@news.tht.net>
>kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>
>>In article <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>>
>>[TubbyBlubber excised]
>
>Name call and personal attack is all you losers have! You can't refute what I
>post based on facts alone so you delete my documented proofs and then lay on
>personal attack. Have you any idea of how you look to all people reading this? I
>don't mind you two making fools of yourselves because it buttresses my viewpoint
>and stand.
>
>>> As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no
>>> endowment fund nor a trust fund.
>
>Is that so? Why does NIZKOR have these links at their web site which mentions
>both? Care to answer based on the facts and reality or will you delete what
>follows and then make personal attack again like the loser you are?
Ken McVay doesn't reply to you at all. I snip your bullshit because even when
you have been answered you keep ignoring the answer and post the same crap over
and over again.
My guess is, Bradshit, that you are in so many killfiles nobody reads your stuff
anymore but as a public service I like to keep putting it in your face that this
has all been asked and answered.
Kenneth McVay, OBC
Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
[BlubberBlather excised]
>Ken McVay doesn't reply to you at all. I snip your bullshit because even when
>you have been answered you keep ignoring the answer and post the same crap over
>and over again.
I don't even see his posts - my trn killfile deletes them out of hand.
The entertainment, however, derives from the 2nd-hand-smoke... in the
case of the Nizkor funds, I was particularly amused to note that you
responded to a question regarding San Antonio Area Fund endowment
funding, as did I, and BlatherTubby tried the old "smoke and mirrors"
routine by changing the subject to Nizkor's Canadian funding.
The phrase "can't see the forest for the trees" comes to mind when
dealing with the fractional neuron known as BlubberTubby/Blakely.
1812 Overture in the park tonight... cannons and all... should be a
great eveing!
--
"...I note that on the few occasions of which I am aware where purveyors of
anti-Semitic propaganda have endeavoured to justify their materials in
court on the facts and the merits, they have been singularly unsuccessful..."
(http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/hweb/people/s/scully-olga/reason.html)
Doc Tavish
Subject: Re: All NIZKOR.ORG Can Do Is Name Call Rather Than Answering Very
Honest Questions aka Re: BabbleTubby's Bullshit
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 18:23:26 GMT
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3b797786...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
References: <e3qantcqehd0skgdn...@4ax.com>
:
Your form of answering is not refutation of the facts. Your form of answering is
avoidance- you delete all of my documented proofs and then you make personal
attack.
>My guess is, Bradshit, that you are in so many killfiles nobody reads your stuff
>anymore but as a public service I like to keep putting it in your face that this
>has all been asked and answered.
Liars can't handle the reality when they are exposed- this is a common trait
among pathological liars who remain in denial to their facing the truth. I
notice once again that you delete factual fully documented material which I gave
the URLs to so all may be verified. Remember Ken- the public is watching and
these posts will be seen in the future by those perusing the archives.
One more short jab at you and your folly. Notice Ken Lewis did not refute what I
had just posted and the key part concerning him was:
From: Doc Tavish <doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM>
Subject: All NIZKOR.ORG Can Do Is Name Call Rather Than Answering Very Honest
Questions aka Re: BabbleTubby's Bullshit
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:03:16 -0500
Organization: McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
Message-ID: <e3qantcqehd0skgdn...@4ax.com>
References: <9kvqek$7t7$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com>
<3b7b7f83...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
<8bd9ntcopgajcivg5...@4ax.com>
<3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca> <9l2g72$23od$1...@news.tht.net>
On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC), <9l2g72$23od$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>
>[TubbyBlubber excised]
Name call and personal attack is all you losers have! You can't refute what I
post based on facts alone so you delete my documented proofs and then lay on
personal attack. Have you any idea of how you look to all people reading this? I
don't mind you two making fools of yourselves because it buttresses my viewpoint
and stand.
>> As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no
>> endowment fund nor a trust fund.
Is that so? Why does NIZKOR have these links at their web site which mentions
both? Care to answer based on the facts and reality or will you delete what
follows and then make personal attack again like the loser you are?
MY PROOF:
<START>
<STOP>
>> As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no
>> endowment fund nor a trust fund.
Whereas NIZKOR'S very own link showed above:
"...add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's memo section.
A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to build the
Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque
or draft with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only.
(All bequests should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund.."
I bet that feels just like getting slapped upside your hard head
with a black jack doesn't it Ken Lewis?
BTW Ken why won't the Flim-Flam Man McVay answer these appropriate questions
about those FUNDS?
1) Who are the directors of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND?
2) Who are the directors of the NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
a) What is the address of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND and
NIZKOR TRUST FUND so that books may be examined about expenditures?
b) What groups or organizations have been the beneficiaries of
the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND?
3) What are the assets of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND and the
NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
4) Are either the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST fund
tax-exempt? (We know that you claim your Nizkor web site is neither a
registered charity nor a non-profit organization.)
5) Is either the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST FUND
on file with the CCRA?
6) Do you personally receive any monies or other assets or financial
perks (house, automobile, etc.) from the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the
NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
Your diversion and McVay's tucking tail and running seems to indicate McVay has
something to hide!
Have a good day now!
Ken Lewis
str...@hotmail.com
<doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>Name call and personal attack is all you losers have! You can't refute what I
>post based on facts alone so you delete my documented proofs and then lay on
>personal attack. Have you any idea of how you look to all people reading this? I
>don't mind you two making fools of yourselves because it buttresses my viewpoint
>and stand.
Talk about calling the kettle black....I've had to wade my way thru
can.general for years bypassing your SPAM bud. Look in the mirror if
you wan to see someone famous for name calling and personal attack!
Doc Tavish
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: A simple question for Ken McVay..
Followup-To: alt.usenet.kooks
BTW Ken it is you who is the kook, not me!
I changed the news groups toi which my intelligent
and truthful reply is made to.
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 04:54:19 GMT
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
References: <8bd9ntcopgajcivg5...@4ax.com>
On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 04:54:19 GMT, <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 23:45:47 -0500, Doc Tavish
><doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
Excess headers deleted.
>><<Doc Tavish question August 10, 2001: Was the donation invested in either the
>>NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST FUND? snicker snicker>>
:
>As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a
>trust fund. Scott Bradbury, a notorious bigot, has never let the truth stand in
>the way of his lies and vicious personal attacks on others.
>
>[snip remainder of this cowards post]
You just can't stand to be proven wrong and you delete the proof that it is you
who "has never let the truth stand in the way of (your) lies and vicious
personal attacks on others."
NIZKOR'S very own web site link refutes your false claim you made: "there is no
endowment fund nor a trust fund" as you brazenly declared above.
Here, once again, to your shame and humiliation:
<STOP>
>As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a
>trust fund. Scott Bradbury, a notorious bigot, has never let the truth stand in
>the way of his lies and vicious personal attacks on others.
perks (house, automobile, etc.) from the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the
NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
My but Ken Lewis is in very deep denial isn't he?
He even denies what the Nizkor web site says about them
having an endowment and trust funds!
How much credibility do my opponents have?
D_O_C__T_A_V_I_S_H
From: kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: A simple question for Ken McVay..
Followup-To: alt.usenet.kooks
BTW Ken it is you who is the kook, not me!
I changed the news groups toi which my intelligent
and truthful reply is made to.
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 04:54:19 GMT
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
References: <8bd9ntcopgajcivg5...@4ax.com>
On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 04:54:19 GMT, <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 23:45:47 -0500, Doc Tavish
><doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
Excess headers deleted.
>><<Doc Tavish question August 10, 2001: Was the donation invested in either the
>>NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST FUND? snicker snicker>>
<STOP>
perks (house, automobile, etc.) from the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the
NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
My but Ken Lewis is in very deep denial isn't he?
He even denies what the Nizkor web site says about them
having an endowment and trust funds!
How much credibility do my opponents have?
Doc Tavish
--
"For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which none of your adversaries
will be able to withstand or contradict." Son of Man {Luke 21:15 RSV}
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