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Three questions Nizkor's Ken McVay Avoids Like the Plague-- Watch Him Run to the Hills!! R_0329

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Fred Rutherford

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Mar 29, 2003, 10:49:44 PM3/29/03

The Nizkor Project -- Ken McVay Director
P.O. Box 244, Station A
Nanaimo, B.C. V9R 5K9 Canada
1-250-616-9431
1-416-966-0461

QUESTION #1: Is the following news article authentic or not?
QUSETION #2: Did the reporter lie or get his information incorrect
when he reported: "Now [Ken McVay's] task has gotten a little easier
with a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation
to the Nizkor Project..."?
QUESTION #3: (is below the news article)

San Antonio Express-News
August 3, 1996
Page 10B

"Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
By Thomas Edwards
Express-News Staff Writer

Now his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from
the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor
Project, an international computer web site directed by the 55-
year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada.

The Nizkor project not only provides information on Hitler's
bloody pogroms but is also intended to counter the claims of
"deniers" (as McVay calls them) -- modern-day neo-Nazis and
extremists who use their own web sites to deny that the
extermination of 12 million Jews and others ever took place
during World War II.

"They (deniers) think the Holocaust is a Jewish propaganda thing,"
said McVay this week during a visit to the Jewish Federation of
San Antonio. "I have come to see Holocaust denial as a function
of racism."

McVay and a group of Holocaust experts plan a panel discussion at
7 p.m. Sunday on "Fighting Hate on the Internet" at the
federation office, 8434 Ahern Drive behind North Star Mall.

The grant will allow McVay and his associates to unveil two new,
extremely fast computers at an undisclosed location in San
Antonio -- undisclosed because of threats from extremists, he
said.

These computers will be linked to others in Germany and Canada to
provide easily accessible information about the Holocaust and
hate groups.

The Nizkor Project is not only a tool to fight bigotry, it has
also "make an impact in terms of Holocaust education," McVay said.

Some of the new material he will add to the web site -- which
will have sound and movement -- includes speeches by Nazi
statesmen advocating genocide, 68 volumes of military
documentation from the Nuremburg war crimes tribunals and
material from the National Archives in Washington.

Some of the new material is being donated by San Antonio resident
Harry Mazal, who is the director of the Nizkor Project in the
United States. Mazal also has one of the world's largest private
collections of Holocaust material.

While the task sounds monumental and is expected to take years to
complete, McVay is not daunted.

"Every item that appears on the net takes away another lie"
promoted by neo-Nazis, he said.

The web address for the Nizkor Project is www.nizkor.org.

The article above can be confirmed at: http://archives1.newsbank.com/
Now click San Antonio-Express News AR=rchives or:
http://archives.newsbank.com/saenews
You will be taken to a page with a very long URL and this is what
I just got:
http://archives9.newsbank.com/cgi-bin/user/home.pl/SAEC?nb_id=N61V4EQBZ2V0dGltZW9mZGF5OjE6MTQ6NjQuMTUyLjI0NS4xNjk
Once there click on the link contained within this passage:
A <search> in S.A. NewsArchives produces a list of story summaries
that include the headline, date, author, and first few sentences of
articles containing your search terms. The headline list is free. You
will be prompted to purchase a subscription to SA NewsArchives (if you
don't already have one) to view the full text of articles.

You will be taken to another page with the search engine and that
page was linked by this link:
http://archives9.newsbank.com/ar-search/we/Archives?p_action=keyword&p_theme=SAEC&p_product=SAEC

Once there set the search engine for:
Search for: Nizkor
Limit Search by Date: All documents

If you all do the above you should get this result:

1 record(s) found (Search results: 1 - 1)

August 3, 1996 San Antonio Express-News
Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten

Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer

"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a solemn
promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet
so that people will never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now
his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from the
philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor Project, an
international computer web site directed by the 55-year-old McVay from
his home in Vancouver Island, Canada. The Nizkor project

[View the full-text article, 526 words]

Notice to lurkers: You will have to order a subscription to be able
to retrieve the whole article but what the excerpts shows proves McVay
lies when he claims: "The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort
whatsoever within the United States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken
McVay has ever received any money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation
- Nizkor Fund." The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me, or
Nizkor, and neither myself nor Nizkor has any connection with the San
Antonio Area Foundation."

QUESTION #3: If the news paper article exists and is correct then why
did you claim in the Nizkor archive below: "No one ever gave me $50,000.
That sum was donated to the San Antonio Area Foundation" when a local
San Antonio news paper reported: "Now [Ken McVay's] task has gotten a
little easier with a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San Antonio Area
Foundation to the Nizkor Project..."

http://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
From kmc...@nizkor.org Thu Jun 1 21:09:22 EDT 2000
Article: 747674 of alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The embezzlement question McVay refuses to answer
Date: 2 Jun 2000 01:04:24 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <8h716n$2t9h$1...@news.tht.net>
References: <282e6175...@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com>

"Blakely" wrote in message
news:282e6175...@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com...
> What did you do with the $50,000 given to you to start a Nizkor
> operation in San Antonio? Since you claim you don't have a San
> Antonio operation, is it safe to say that you simply embezzled
> the money?

No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
Area Foundation. $40,000 was invested, at the direction of the donor,
in the purchase of two Sun computer systems. $10,000 was invested in
an endowment fund in accordance with the regulations set by the San
Antonio Area Foundation. The San Antonio Area Foundation has never
paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge......... <END>

And if that same news paper report is not true as you reply in the post you made
above then why does your very own Nizkor web site carry the same article without
one exception or disclaimer concerning its accuracy? Care to explain the dilemma
and paradox I caught you in Ken McVay? BTW I have this archived as a web page, a
web document and have it snap shot as a JPG plus other people have done the
same! NOW EXPLAIN WHY YOU LIED ABOUT THAT $50,000 which YOUR own web site
reports you received as shown here:

EXACT QUOTE:

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
Shofar FTP Archive File: people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

San Antonio Express-News
August 3, 1996
Page 10B

"Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
By Thomas Edwards
Express-News Staff Writer

McVay and a group of Holocaust experts plan a panel discussion at
7 p.m. Sunday on "Fighting Hate on the Internet" at the
federation office, 8434 Ahern Drive behind North Star Mall.

The grant will allow McVay and his associates to unveil two new,
extremely fast computers at an undisclosed location in San
Antonio -- undisclosed because of threats from extremists, he
said.

These computers will be linked to others in Germany and Canada to
provide easily accessible information about the Holocaust and
hate groups.

The Nizkor Project is not only a tool to fight bigotry, it has
also "make an impact in terms of Holocaust education," McVay said.

While the task sounds monumental and is expected to take years to
complete, McVay is not daunted.

"Every item that appears on the net takes away another lie"
promoted by neo-Nazis, he said.

The web address for the Nizkor Project is www.nizkor.org.

Home · Funding · Search · Site Map · What's New? · Make Nizkor your home
page
WebPosition Gold

<END>

Your own web site reports (without exception/disclaimer):

San Antonio Express-News
August 3, 1996
Page 10B

"Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
By Thomas Edwards
Express-News Staff Writer

YET you also claim (as shown above):

<END>

One of your "statements" is true and the other has to be false BUT either way
you are a liar who has been caught!

Anyone who wants to really see McVay for the flim-flam man he is need only read
these archives where I expose his dishonesty with the same type proofs I showed
above.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3e235877_3%40news2.uncensored-news.com&rnum=1
Subject: Did Ken McVay pay tax on those $50,000+ donations he denies receiving?
Message-ID: <3e235...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
Date: 14 Jan 2003 00:23:26 GMT
(Excerpt-- Click link to read entire archive)

From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <5n6ib9$f3h$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
Date: 1997/06/05

In article <5n400d$s...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (William "Ian
McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:

>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just

The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana)

From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Nizkor Project financing and Kleinsorg's slandering Germans
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvbkg$a...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>

In article <31c2fa3a...@news.annap.infi.net>,
h...@annap.infi.net (Horst Kleinsorg) wrote, in response to my
suggestion that he actually do some research:

>First tell us who is financing your Nizkor, then we perhaps can
>talk.

Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Kleinsorg. I am financed
by thousands of "just plain folks" who wish to support my
work. In Canada, they make their cheques payable to

Congregation Emmanu-El / Nizkor Project

and mail them to:

Congregation Emmanu-El / Nizkor Project
1461 Blanshard St.
Victoria, BC
V8W 2J3

In the United States, they make their cheques payable to:

SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund

and mail them to:

San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566

Once again, Mr. Kleinsorg, thank you for asking. I trust this
open, public response will satisfy your query.

By the way, Mr. Kleinsorg... now that I have responded openly
and honestly to your question, perhaps you can tell us what
difference it makes who finances my work... you are still
slandering Germans, and the German military, and I fail to see
how my financing changes that.

The Nizkor Project (Canada) - An Electronic Holocaust Educational Resource
[Ftp] http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?
[Europe] ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/
http://www.almanac.bc.ca/ (Under construction - permanently!)......unlearn

If you never received any money from the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor
Fund then why did you claim they were a source of financing?

http://www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
[Link active for downloading and for verification December 19, 2002.
(I have already downloaded and archived the PDF in case it becomes
unavailable for some reason.)]

Our mission: Helping donors achieve their charitable goals
Annual Report 2000
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
San Antonio Area Foundation
Growing to Give, Giving to Grow

Page 3
Fund Types
The San Antonio Area Foundation is dedicated to improving the quality
of life in our community through funding that impacts vital nonprofit
organizations so they can help people in time of need.

Discretionary Funds
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
These funds enable the Area Foundation to respond
flexibly to changing community needs and emergencies.
Decisions on how to most appropriately use these
funds are left to the discretion of the Area Foundation’s
Advisory Committees and Board of Directors. Any size
gift may be given as a discretionary gift.
You’ll find many reasonable options for creating your
own fund in the paragraphs that follow. However,
if you wish to contribute to the work of the Area
Foundation and do not see an option that suits your
plan for giving, we invite you to contribute to an
existing discretionary fund. One of the many advantages
of this type of giving is that there is no minimum
contribution — you may give as little or as much as
you wish, as often as you wish.

[...]

Unrestricted Net Assets
AS OF DECEMBER 31 , 2000
Discretionary (unrestricted) 20 %
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Donor Advised Funds 36 %
Designated Funds 4 %
Field of Interest Funds 23 %
Scholarship Funds 17 %

Page 4
Discretionary Funds
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Alamo Fund
Phoebe P. and John H. Foster Memorial Fund
Nat and Mannie Goldsmith Memorial Trust
Ruth Lang Charitable Fund

[...]

Beulah M. and Felix J. Katz Memorial Trust
Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
Nizkor Fund
^^^^^^^^^^^
Mary Kay Owens Memorial Fund
Gaynelle and Gene Rankin Endowment Trust

[...]

S A N A N T O N I O A R E A F O U N D A T I O N
Post Office Box 120366 I San Antonio, Texas 78212
210-225-2243 I 210-225-1980 Fax
w w w. s a a f d n . o r g

How about what a local San Antonio news paper published about the
San Antonio Area Foundation handing you a $50,000 check? Are they
lying too or does the actual evidence prove you are a tax cheater?

San Antonio Express-News
August 3, 1996
Page 10B

"Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
By Thomas Edwards
Express-News Staff Writer

<END>

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=kpbl2v8od8empt5mdkt30k3t8ehs5q3jeh%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Big Time About his San Antonio
Connection!
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 08:17:47 -0600
Message-ID: <kpbl2v8od8empt5md...@4ax.com>

When right minded people have had enough of your lies and your confidence
schemes to build you own nest egg at their expense through exempted donations
they are going to demand you get audited Ken McVay and here is the contact info
for them to do it with:

Auditor General of CCRA:
canadaint...@pwgsc.gc.ca, comm...@rc.gc.ca

For office phone numbers and addresses, please visit our "Contact us" page
at http://www.ccra.gc.ca/contact.

Info on Ken McVay and his web site which is not entitled to receive exempt
donations:

The Nizkor Project -- Ken McVay Director
P.O. Box 244, Station A
Nanaimo, B.C. V9R 5K9 Canada
1-250-616-9431
1-416-966-0461

Tavish

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