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Barney Fife

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Jan 29, 2004, 9:21:07 AM1/29/04
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"Re: Arthur J. Tandy Doesn't Want People to Know Where He Lives BUT HE Tips Off
People to Where I live!! R_0514"

On Fri, 16 May 2003 11:54:43 -0500, <3EC517D4...@uiuc.edu> "Chas. 'Mark'
Bee" <c-b...@uiuc.edu> wrote:

>Reginald Higham Cornelius McTavish wrote:
>>
>> On 16 May 2003 15:12:02 GMT, <catamont-57F34E...@news.spellbndr.com>
>> Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> >Its a jew. It thinks its God's chosen person. Just this one time I
>> >> >disagree with God,
:
>> >> The thing is-- God no longer views the Jew as being the chosen!
:
>> >And of course, Mr. Bradbury knows this because God told him so.

No- God did not directly tell me so BUT through the scripture I know so as the
scripture proves in this archive:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2fttrvo00fhaoi2f8ip%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Old Covenant Vs New -- New Covenant Replaces Old Covenant (Jews NO
Longer God's Chosen People & Entitled to "Israel" So Says the Scripture!)
Message-ID: <qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2f...@4ax.com>

>> I assume that you still believe that YOU and your fellow Jews are still the
>> Chosen right? Is this why you always want two standards-- one for yourselves and
>> another standard for the rest of humanity? Is this why you think you can treat
>> Non-Jews as sub-humans and when they retaliate in kind then they are
>> "anti-Semitic"? Is this why it is okay for Jews to "bear false witness" against
>> non-Jews and it not be a thing of conscience in your mind?

You deleted what was posted Chas.'Mark' Bee and it will be restored below for
the sake of comparison. You cut out my essential scriptural proofs and then you
quote out of context against me one of Jesus' admonitions concerning conflicts
between "brothers."

> Eye, mote, beam.

Jesus said that concerning the relations and conflicts between "brothers" or his
believers and Jews are NOT the disciples or "brothers" of Jesus-- they
vehemently denounce Jesus like the anti-Christs they are and they choose to be!

Here is what you are trying to evoke in actual context:

Luke 6:41,42 :: King James Version (KJV)
41 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but
perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
42 Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote
that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine
own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then
shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye.

The above applies to conflicts between "brothers" or Jesus' followers! Jews do
not view non-Jews as brothers-- rather we are referred to as foreigners or
Gentiles by them and they do NOT view their relationship to us as we being their
equals much less "brothers" as proven here:

Deuteronomy 15:2,3 :: New International Version (NIV)
2 This is how it is to be done: Every creditor shall cancel the loan he has made
to his fellow Israelite. He shall not require payment from his fellow Israelite
or brother, because the LORD's time for canceling debts has been proclaimed.
3 You may require payment from a foreigner, but you must cancel any debt your
brother owes you.

FOREIGNER=GENTILE

Here are Jews proving FOREIGNER=GENTILE=NON-JEW=HEATHEN:

http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:HLx2iy_HSsQC:www.torahcc.org/mishna/5762/21-10-01/shabbat.htm+non-Jew+foreigner&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
(Archived locally as: 21-10-01_shabbat)
http://web.archive.org/web/20021118135324re_/www.torahcc.org/mishna/5762/21-10-01/shabbat.htm
(New active link for January 28, 2004. Archived locally as: 21-10-01-shabbat_2
and as: Torah Community Connections Mishna Yomit.htm [This web archive is
complete with all graphics.])

Week 100 - Shabbat - 27 October 2001

BAVA METZIA: CHAPTER 5: MISHNAH 6

One may not accept an ironclad investment from an Israelite, since it is
interest, but one may accept an ironclad investment from heathens. Furthermore,
one may borrow from them and loan to them with interest. The same applies to a
resident alien. An Israelite may loan the money of a heathen with the approval
of the heathen, but not with the approval of an Israelite...

But one may accept an ironclad investment from heathens - since it is permitted
to loan to a non-Jew for interest, as the mishnah goes on to teach. The
commentators explain that the first part of this mishnah ("One may not accept an
ironclad investment from an Israelite") is superfluous, and appears only in
order to teach the last part of the mishnah law ('but one may accept an ironclad
investment from heathens") (Rashi, Hameiri, Bartenura, Tiferet Yisrael).

Furthermore, one may borrow from them - non-Jews - and loan to them with
interest - Rambam bases this law on the verse "You shall not lend upon interest
to your brother" (Deut. 23:20), implying that it is forbidden to lend upon
interest to your brother, but permitted to lend upon interest to the rest of the
world. According to tradition, it is a positive commandment to loan upon
interest to the non-Jew, in accordance with the verse, "To a foreigner you shall
lend upon interest" (Deut. 23:21); this is the Torah law (Hil. Malveh u-Loveh
5:1; see there Hasagat Ravad).

<END>

This material should really prove how Jews always want a legal advantage over
the Non-Jew:

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=720&letter=C
(Archived locally as: CONFLICT_OF_LAWS)
Jewishencyclopedia.com
CONFLICT OF LAWS:
By : Executive Committee of the Editorial Board. Julius H. Greenstone

In civil cases the following rules were established by the Rabbis.

1. In suits between two Israelites the law of the place where the contract was
made governs, or, if the place is not mentioned in the contract, the law of the
place where the case is tried rules (B. M. 83a; Ket. 110b; "Yad," Ishut, xxiii.
12; ?oshen Mishpa?, 42, 14, 15; Eben ha-'Ezer, 117, 19, Isserles' gloss).

2. In suits between non-Jews the law of the land or the Jewish law—to whichever
the parties submit themselves—governs ("Yad," Melakim, x. 12).

3. In matters between a Jew and a non-Jew the suit is decided according to the
law of the land or according to the Jewish law, that system being chosen which
favors the Jew... <END>

Does the above need any explanation!?!?

Here are excerpts from a previous post of mine:

1: Interview with the Lubavitcher Rebbe
Torah the answers to their struggles and concerns. Throughout his years
of leadership, beginning in 1950, the Rebbe, in his inimitable style, applied
the depths of Torah scholarship to virtually every area of life.... (18K)

Excerpt: " This afternoon we heard a lecture by Dr. Block in which he explained
that a Jew has a Divine spark. He didn't say explicitly, but he intimated that
only a Jew has this Divine spark but a non-Jew does not...

--------

And those who repose in the dust will arise and sing." Sichos In English
22 Shvat, 5755 THREE INTERPRETATIONS THREE CATEGORIES OF MITZVOS
On the verse: [1] "These are the judgments which you shall place before
them,"... (27K)

Excerpt: " With regard to eidus, and surely with regard to chukim, there is no
need to forewarn against approaching non-Jewish judges, for it is plainly
obvious that non-Jewish judges do not share any connection to these matters.
Their rulings depend on human intellect, and they have no connection to subjects
which transcend human intellect."

--------

Tanya (Regular Year): 12 Mar Cheshvan
Vitebsk (or Horodok), who had settled in the Holy Land in 1777. It concludes by
rousing them to the mitzvah of tzedakah in general, and particularly of
maintaining the family of R. Mendel. The Alter Rebbe is here...

Excerpt: " [This alludes to the Chayah of the tzaddik, the soul-level which is
even loftier than the soul-level called Neshamah, and which infuses the
followers of the tzaddik with a transcendent mode of life-force which enables
them to withstand challenges from non-Jewish (i.e., unholy) sources."

--------

The Jewish Soul and the Non-Jewish Soul
Kabbalah teaches that every human soul possesses a full array of ten sefirot, or
spiritual powers. The first three spiritual powers are intellectual in nature
while the following seven are emotional in nature. In...

Excerpt: "The Jewish Soul and the Non-Jewish Soul The Jewish Soul and the
Non-Jewish Soul In the Jewish, Divine soul, the three powers of the intellect
are its primary motivating force. In the soul of the non-Jew, the seven emotive
powers are its primary motivating force. In the innate state of the non-Jewish
soul the three intellectual powers are subordinate, and serve the earthbound
desires of the seven emotive powers."

Xref:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=amor2vchosv7k4d1vo5bgnof1s5ksev4t0%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Bigotry and Segregation in the Name of Religion....
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 19:13:41 -0600
Message-ID: <amor2vchosv7k4d1v...@4ax.com>

IOW to claim the Children of the Devil and anti-Christs are my "brothers"
especially when they view me in such a haughty manner is the pinnacle of
insults! You evidently have no sense how Jews really view you and the rest
of humanity!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

That which was deleted by Chas.'Mark' Bee is now restored:

On 16 May 2003 15:12:02 GMT, <catamont-57F34E...@news.spellbndr.com>
Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:

>> >Its a jew. It thinks its God's chosen person. Just this one time I
>> >disagree with God,
:
>> The thing is-- God no longer views the Jew as being the chosen!
:
>And of course, Mr. Bradbury knows this because God told him so.

I assume that you still believe that YOU and your fellow Jews are still the
Chosen right? Is this why you always want two standards-- one for yourselves and
another standard for the rest of humanity? Is this why you think you can treat
Non-Jews as sub-humans and when they retaliate in kind then they are
"anti-Semitic"? Is this why it is okay for Jews to "bear false witness" against
non-Jews and it not be a thing of conscience in your mind?

Deuteronomy 19:16-19 :: New International Version (NIV)
16 If a malicious witness takes the stand to accuse a man of a crime,
17 the two men involved in the dispute must stand in the presence of the LORD
before the priests and the judges who are in office at the time.
18 The judges must make a thorough investigation, and if the witness proves to
be a liar, giving false testimony against his brother,
19 then do to him as he intended to do to his brother. You must purge the evil
from among you.

Deuteronomy 19:16-19 :: King James Version (KJV)
16 If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that
which is wrong;
17 Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the
LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;
18 And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness
be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;
19 Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother:
so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.

Special Note: Pharisees (Jews) do not view non-Jews as their "brothers" or
equals and these scriptures prove so:

Deuteronomy 15:2,3 :: New International Version (NIV)
2 This is how it is to be done: Every creditor shall cancel the loan he has made
to his fellow Israelite. He shall not require payment from his fellow Israelite
or brother, because the LORD's time for canceling debts has been proclaimed.
3 You may require payment from a foreigner, but you must cancel any debt your
brother owes you.

FOREIGNER=GENTILE

You and your fellow Children of the Devil don't like me and that is because I
see you all for what you are and I try to get other people to drop their
blinders and see you devils for what you are too! Christendom is a Whore and it
blinds people concerning the Babylon it worships!

Babylon identified:
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=rirhav4cad1rnbg7o...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Message-ID: <rirhav4cad1rnbg7o...@4ax.com>

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3crfru9ce2rb0snnls%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Children of the Devil and Anti-Christ[s] Positively Identified Using
Scripture-- Check The Proofs For Yourselves! V2.0
Message-ID: <vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 May 2003 05:29:00 GMT

>Sara
Tavish

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=ek19cv4ei9cf2nrvull7df5rgn2rhai54c%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Soviets (Communists) Were Jews as Proven by BOOLEAN Operands (Classic
Repost from 3-31-2000) Abridged Version R_0516
Message-ID: <ek19cv4ei9cf2nrvu...@4ax.com>
Date: 16 May 2003 06:36:09 GMT

Jewish Led Bolsheviks Scalped & Crucified Christians by Philippa Fletcher
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=34c17d0f.1410012285%40news.smart1.net&rnum=7
Subject: Bolsheviks Scalped and Crucified Christians -
Date: 1998/01/18
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Subject: Post-Soviet Religion (What Communists did to Christians) V2.0a S_0125
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Date: 25 Jan 2004 19:53:30 GMT


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Leonard Abbott

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          Glenda wrote
Leonard.. the slavery the world had, which made amazing profits, and
Christianity, finally, overthrew.. was not Israel's rehabilitation of
criminals, but rather the abducting of peoples and families and selling
them on the auction blocks.. separating little children from their
mothers
----------------------------------------------
          Glenda- there was far more prophit from
the anti-slavery movement, the last 200 years than slavery profits.
Christianity did not over throw slavery, Colonialism did.
----------------------------------------------
            Glenda wrote
  and the sons from the fathers.. etc.. yanking them out of their
homes, and their nations.. yes, they were imperfect.. even sinners.. but
hey, I thought Jesus died for them.. for all of us..
----------------------------------------------
            Strange Glenda you would bring up
''Sons separated from their fathers.'' Under our present system millions
more, sons have been separated from their fathers than slavery ever
separated.
            And it is a system loved by
fiminists, and perpetuated by lovers of anti-slavery.
      ''Yanking them out of their homes'' I had 5 yanked out
of my home, I will never forget my 3yr old daughter kicking and
screaming as the police drug her away.       This is happening
today, not something that happened 200 yrs ago.
          All 5 grew up with emotional scars,
because liberals like yourself left Christianity, to chase after a
political doctrine hated by Christ.
----------------------------------------------
          Glenda wrote
            Jesus said (to His Apostles, then
disciples) "if you, being evil" -- well, that's all of us ("evil").. not
just certain races or classes.. castes.. or anything else.. [those who
make themselves first will undoubtedly be last, don't ya think?]
But hey i do agree with your comment how we never got away from roman
law, courts.. senates.. architecture (well i added a couple)
----------------------------------------------
            Glenda we are now beginning to get
some where, The founding fathers were doing a good job breaking away
from Rome. We were drug back in through the anti-slavery movement.
          First we were divided and pushed into
civil war through anti-slavery, In our weakest hour the country was
drawn into the Roman system, through Feminism and anti-slavery, which
evolved into anti-racism, none of which was pleasing to Christ.
----------------------------------------------
        Glenda wrote
and we never got away from the Greek religions.. philosophies..
universities (once christian, now reclaimed).. humanism, secularism..
and there we have it.. the iron and the bronze(or brass) of Daniel's
prophecies..
----------------------------------------------
              Glenda all the things you say
about Roman an Greecan influence are true.
What you fail to recognize, is we were reclaimed through the political
philosophy.
of Anti-slavery. Everything evil in America is connected to the
Anti-slavery, Feminist movement.
            It is all in Daniel's and Ezekiels
prophecies they go hand in hand.
You have been preaching Iron and bronze for a long time now, as soon as
you realize it is all connected to anti-slavery, you will began to have
success.
          God bless leonard

(Leonard Abbott)
Christians have left christ, because they did not like the message. and
have found teachers that will. give them a message they want to hear.
JC: Slavery was not the message!
----------------------------------------------
            Slavery was the message!
      Titus 2;9-10'' Exhort bond servants to be obedient to
their own masters, to be well pleasing in all things, not answering
back,
      Not pilfering, but showing all good fidelity.''  
  Col 3;22''''You slaves be obedient in everything,to those that are
your masters, In a flashily sense, not with acts of eyeservice,as men
pleasers but with sincerity of heart.''
        JC I am not an advocate of slavery, all I want
to show ir the ANTI-SLAVERY political movement is evil and the reason
for most of the worlds problems today.
      ''Satan keeps transforming himself into an angel of
light'' and the anti-slavery movement was the light he carried.for 200
yrs.
              God bless lenny

Joebruno

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Jan 29, 2004, 2:03:14 PM1/29/04
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Barney Fife <barney_fife@mayberry01net> wrote in message news:<cv3i10h7uqn08niug...@4ax.com>...

> Former subject title (exact quoting):
> "Re: Arthur J. Tandy Doesn't Want People to Know Where He Lives BUT HE Tips Off
> People to Where I live!! R_0514"
>
>

You asked for that when you kept posting Sara's address, crybaby. If
you can't take it, don't dish it out.

cub_brave

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Jan 29, 2004, 2:35:40 PM1/29/04
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I WONDER IF ANY OF YOUR OFFSPRING HAVE HAD INTERRACIAL
RELATIONSHIPS?????

JUDGING FROM YOUR LAST POST ABOUT SLAVERY, I GATHER THAT YOU ARE MAD
BECAUSE MAYBE YOUR WIFE OR DAUGHTER MARRIED SOMEONE OTHER THAT A
CAUCASION.

THE REASON THEY MAY HAVE DONE THIS IS BECAUSE THEY GREW UP LOOKING AT
YOU.

LATER BIGOT

John Steinberg

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Jan 31, 2004, 12:23:56 PM1/31/04
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From a biblical point of view there are no better or worse sinners, there
are only sinners.
That das not preclude that God makes certain selections, but these are meant
to serve his purposes, not ours.
The greatest obstacle to the kingdom of God is a mentality which feels
superior, elite or better than others. According to the Gospel, only Jesus
is better.
John

"Barney Fife" <barney_fife@mayberry01net> wrote in message
news:cv3i10h7uqn08niug...@4ax.com...

> 2. In suits between non-Jews the law of the land or the Jewish law-to
whichever
> the parties submit themselves-governs ("Yad," Melakim, x. 12).

Eb Dawson

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On 29 Jan 2004 11:03:14 -0800, <bf3896a1.0401...@posting.google.com>
br...@indystart.com (Joebruno) wrote:

>Barney Fife <barney_fife@mayberry01net> wrote in message news:<cv3i10h7uqn08niug...@4ax.com>...
>> Former subject title (exact quoting):
>> "Re: Arthur J. Tandy Doesn't Want People to Know Where He Lives BUT HE Tips Off
>> People to Where I live!! R_0514"
>>
>>
>
>You asked for that when you kept posting Sara's address, crybaby.

After mine was posted!

>If you can't take it, don't dish it out.

She shouldn't cry then when she gets back in return what she originally dished
out! It was, afterall, Sara and Yale who made my address etc. publicly available
in the first place! Each time some punk, such as you, posts where I live then I
will post where Sara Salzman and Yale F. Edeiken live which is only fair!

Tavish

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