Jews are NOT Entitled to Israel in Present Days-- So Proves the Scripture!!
Piotr Vladimir Taviskov
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Subject: Old Covenant Vs New -- New Covenant Replaces Old Covenant (Jews NO
Longer God's Chosen People & Entitled to "Israel" So Says the Scripture!)
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Subject: G-d's Will - Jews No Longer OWN The Land Israel
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:27:25 GMT
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(Excerpt)
On 31-May-1999, dlt...@ix.netcom.com (dltjxx) "Debora" wrote:
> From: dlt...@ix.netcom.com (dltjxx)
> Subject: Re: Jews Go Home!
> Date: 31 May 1999 07:29:47 GMT
> Organization: Netcom
:
> >Susan Cohen <ze...@smart.nett> wrote:
> >>We are home. You're the invader.
> >Stop the illusions. Go back to Krakow. It's our land. Forever.
> >The invadors are you jewish fanatics who invaded OUR land in 1948.
> >I wish those ships sank before they reached Yafa.
> >Hani
:
> Please specify how the half million Jews resident in Israel in 1948 are
> invaders of the land given to them.
Who gave "Jews" the land in 1948? If you say G-d then you are wrong! G-d
has thoroughly dispossessed you of the land that you claim as YOURS. The
Temple being in ruins for nearly two thousand years is tantamount to the
fact as spoken:
THE TEMPLE INUAGURATION AND GOD'S STATEMENT
1 Kings 9:3-9 (English-RSV):
3 And the LORD said to him [King Solomon], "I have heard your prayer and
your supplication, which you have made before me; I have
consecrated this house which you have built, and put my name there for
ever; my eyes and my heart will be there for all time.
4 And as for you, if you will walk before me, as David your father walked,
with integrity of heart and uprightness, doing according to all that I
have commanded you, and keeping my statutes and my
ordinances,
5 then I will establish your royal throne over Israel for ever, as I
promised David your father, saying, 'There shall not fail you a man upon
the throne of Israel.'
6 But if you turn aside from following me, you or your children, and do
not keep my commandments and my statutes which I have set before you, but
go and serve other gods and worship them,
7 then I will cut off Israel from the land which I have given them; and
the house which I have consecrated for my name I will cast out of my
sight; and Israel will become a proverb and a byword among all peoples.
8 And this house will become a heap of ruins; everyone passing by it will
be astonished, and will hiss; and they will say, 'Why has the LORD done
thus to this land and to this house?'
9 Then they will say, 'Because they forsook the LORD their God who brought
their fathers out of the land of Egypt, and laid hold on other gods, and
worshiped them and served them; therefore the LORD has brought all this
evil upon them.'"
Here is Jesus foretelling of the current temple destruction and the
casting of the Jews who presumed to still have G-d's approval:
Matthew 21:33-46 (English-RSV)
33 [Jesus said] "Hear another parable. There was a householder who planted
a vineyard, and set a hedge around it, and dug a wine press in it, and
built a tower, and let it out to tenants, and went into
another country.
34 When the season of fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the
tenants, to get his fruit;
35 and the tenants took his servants and beat one, killed another, and
stoned another.
36 Again he sent other servants, more than the first; and they did the
same to them.
37 Afterward he sent his son to them, saying, 'They will respect my son.'
38 But when the tenants saw the son, they said to themselves, 'This is the
heir; come, let us kill him and have his inheritance.'
39 And they took him and cast him out of the vineyard, and killed him. 40
When therefore the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those
tenants?"
41 They said to him, "He will put those wretches to a miserable death, and
let out the vineyard to other tenants who will give him the fruits in
their seasons."
42 Jesus said to them, "Have you never read in the scriptures: 'The very
stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner; this
was the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes'?
43 Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and
given to a nation producing the fruits of it."
44 _
45 When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they
perceived that he was speaking about them.
46 But when they tried to arrest him, they feared the multitudes, because
they held him to be a prophet.
[...]
God destroyed the Temple and drove Jews out from Israel almost 2000 years
ago! Was it God or was it man's doing that Israel be made a State in 1948?
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Consider this:
http://www.israel-mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH00hb0
(Link still active May 16, 2003 and saved locally as: MFAH00hb0)
"THE DECLARATION OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL May 14, 1948
On May 14, 1948, on the day in which the British Mandate over a Palestine
expired, the Jewish People's Council gathered at the Tel Aviv Museum, and
approved the following proclamation, declaring the establishment of the
State of Israel. The new state was recognized that night at 11:00 AM
Israel time by the United States and three days later by the USSR...
Text:
ERETZ-ISRAEL [(Hebrew) - the Land of Israel, Palestine] was the birthplace of
the Jewish people...
After being forcibly exiled from their land, the people kept faith with it
throughout their Dispersion and never ceased to pray and hope for their return
to it and for the restoration in it of their political freedom.
<<Tavish comment May 16, 2003: It was GOD himself who drove you out BUT is now
MAN countering God's will by trying to undo what GOD did and willed.>>
In the year 5657 (1897), at the summons of the spiritual father of the Jewish
State, Theodore Herzl, the First Zionist Congress convened and proclaimed the
right of the Jewish people to national rebirth in its own country.
This right was recognized in the Balfour Declaration of the 2nd November, 1917,
and re-affirmed in the Mandate of the League of Nations which, in particular,
gave international sanction to the historic connection between the Jewish people
and Eretz-Israel and to the right of the Jewish people to rebuild its National
Home...
<<Tavish comment May 16, 2003: Thus we see it is MAN creating the Jewish State
of Israel rather than it being GOD.>>
On the 29th November, 1947, the United Nations General Assembly passed a
resolution calling for the establishment of a Jewish State in Eretz-Israel; the
General Assembly required the inhabitants of Eretz-Israel to take such steps as
were necessary on their part for the implementation of that resolution. This
recognition by the United Nations of the right of the Jewish people to establish
their State is irrevocable.
This right is the natural right of the Jewish people to be masters of their own
fate, like all other nations, in their own sovereign State.
ACCORDINGLY WE, MEMBERS OF THE PEOPLE'S COUNCIL, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE JEWISH
COMMUNITY OF ERETZ-ISRAEL AND OF THE ZIONIST MOVEMENT, ARE HERE ASSEMBLED ON THE
DAY OF THE TERMINATION OF THE BRITISH MANDATE OVER ERETZ-ISRAEL AND, BY VIRTUE
OF OUR NATURAL AND HISTORIC RIGHT AND ON THE STRENGTH OF THE RESOLUTION OF THE
UNITED NATIONS GENERAL ASSEMBLY, HEREBY DECLARE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A JEWISH
STATE IN ERETZ-ISRAEL, TO BE KNOWN AS THE STATE OF ISRAEL.
WE DECLARE that, with effect from the moment of the termination of the Mandate
being tonight, the eve of Sabbath, the 6th Iyar, 5708 (15th May, 1948), until
the establishment of the elected, regular authorities of the State in accordance
with the Constitution which shall be adopted by the Elected Constituent Assembly
not later than the 1st October 1948, the People's Council shall act as a
Provisional Council of State, and its executive organ, the People's
Administration, shall be the Provisional Government of the Jewish State, to be
called "Israel"....
WE APPEAL to the Jewish people throughout the Diaspora to rally round the Jews
of Eretz-Israel in the tasks of immigration and upbuilding and to stand by them
in the great struggle for the realization of the age-old dream - the redemption
of Israel.
PLACING OUR TRUST IN THE ALMIGHTY, WE AFFIX OUR SIGNATURES TO THIS PROCLAMATION
AT THIS SESSION OF THE PROVISIONAL COUNCIL OF STATE, ON THE SOIL OF THE
HOMELAND, IN THE CITY OF TEL-AVIV, ON THIS SABBATH EVE, THE 5TH DAY OF IYAR,
5708 (14TH MAY,1948).
* Published in the Official Gazette, No. 1 of the 5th, Iyar, 5708 (14th May,
1948).
--<END>--
Hardly looks like God brought about the disenfranchisement of Palestinians
from their land does it? Modern "Israel" was mandated by man NOT by God!
~~End of Expanded GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
IF the present State of Israel is truly a restoration of land by God to the Jews
then why would God have driven Jews out of Israel ~2000 years ago when they
denounced Jesus as the scripture above showed and then "recently" restore the
land to Jews who have to this day have not recognized Jesus as the Messiah? VERY
IMPORTANT QUESTION!!
I.E.
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Date: 13 May 2003 05:29:00 GMT
Israel today is a Communist/Socialist state as proven by these archives:
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Subject: Political Parties of Israel (Israel is a Communist Sympathizer Nation!)
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Date: 18 May 2003 07:27:35 GMT
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Subject: Capitalism, Communism, and Technology in Jewish Thought (In Their Own
Words Series)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:32:52 -0600
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In fact the world's largest Jewish organization has funded a communist:
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Subject: Tax Exempt Religious Org (B'nai Brith) Gave Communist Financial and
Moral Support
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Date: 4 Jun 2003 21:52:32 GMT
Communism is diametrically opposed to Christianity yet many people who claim to
be the "Sheep of Jesus" support the enemies of the true faith!
More hostility toward the "faith" by Pharisaic Jews:
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How First Century Christianity Was Treated by Jews:
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Date: 13 May 2003 05:29:00 GMT
How Later Christianity was treated by Jews:
Jewish Led Bolsheviks Scalped & Crucified Christians by Philippa Fletcher
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Date: 25 Apr 2003 08:14:41 GMT
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Date: 16 May 2003 06:36:09 GMT
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Subject: Jews and Their Intolerance Toward Christian Symbols-- Crosses
Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 21:31:56 -0500
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How anyone who claims to be a Christian can support the illegitimate State of
Israel run by communists/socialists is a real stretch of reality and a definite
indicator of how ignorant people are of the Devil's Designs!
Tavish
--Jewish Tradition will NEVER teach Non-Jews as being equals--
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Gerhardt Bruno Tavischen
>References: <589gev8gltie0k79p...@4ax.com>
><szkel1z...@fnord.io.com> <aca9dd48.03061...@posting.google.com>
><aqthev02f9db610ii...@4ax.com>
>From: Patrick Humphrey <pat...@io.com>
>Date: 13 Jun 2003 01:19:20 -0500
>Message-ID: <szky906...@fnord.io.com>
On 13 Jun 2003 01:19:20 -0500, <szky906...@fnord.io.com> Patrick Humphrey
<pat...@io.com> wrote:
>Piotr Vladimir Taviskov <PiotrVladi...@TAVISKOV-RUSSITE.NET> writes:
>
>>>From: sailor...@yahoo.com (sailor57)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.bonehead.scott-bradbury
>
>>Name call is all my opponents have. I restored the news groups so everyone may
>>see two losers for what they are!
>
>...and they've been removed just as quickly as you put your spam crossposting
>back in. (You really don't get it, do you?)
You don't want a wider audience to read what I post and how pathetic you are in
you refuting me? Name call and ad hominem attacks are not refuting me!
>>My original post- which nothing remains!!
:
>Cry me a river, Blimpie.
Name call is all you have isn't it Patrick?
My "Maxim Concerning Debate"- Originally written in a letter to Liberal
Radio Talk Show Host Jim Hightower:
This is my original- "If I hear something being debated pertaining
to a subject that I am not cognizant of, therefore impartial, I
examine the manner of the debate and conduct. I know who is telling
the truth and who is lying by the tactics employed- the liar always
attacks the opposing person and the truth teller always attacks the
opposing premise!"
-Subject: Tavish Maxim Concerning Debate.
-Date: 1997/12/09
-Message-ID: <348ccbc4....@news.smart1.net>
What you can't refute once more to YOUR shame:
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Date: 12 Jun 2003 22:18:18 GMT
>From: sailor...@yahoo.com (sailor57)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.bonehead.scott-bradbury
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Name call is all my opponents have. I restored the news groups so everyone may
see two losers for what they are!
>Subject: Re: Jews are NOT Entitled to Israel in Present Days-- So Proves the Scripture!!
>Date: 12 Jun 2003 12:41:30 -0700
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My original post- which nothing remains!!
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On 12 Jun 2003 12:41:30 -0700, <aca9dd48.03061...@posting.google.com>
sailor...@yahoo.com (sailor57) wrote:
>Patrick Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote in message news:<szkel1z...@fnord.io.com>...
>> So go try and run them out of it, Blimpie. I'm sure they'll be impressed with
>> your (ahem) reasoning.
If you are so convinced that your ad hominem attack bears fruit then why did you
change the news groups posted to from:
alt.fan.g-gordon-liddy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.usa.republican,
alt.revisionism,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.israel,
talk.politics.mideast
TO
alt.revisionism,alt.bonehead.scott-bradbury?
Looks like personal attacks is all you have and BTW the town and state I live in
has nothing to do with what I post other than a loser like you is seeking to
have me harassed because you don't like what I post and because you can't refute
what I post!
>> --PLH, one little town in Xxxxxx and a whole religion would be better off for
>> it
Why don't you ever try proving me wrong for once rather than deleting all that I
posted from your rude replies and then attacking me personally? You can't do it!
WHY? Because truth is not on your side-- if it were you would be slam dunking me
left and right rather than acting like a sore loser and being reduced to making
ad hominem attacks!
>He's lying again.
Is that so? Show everyone where I lied and leave my text intact for once!
Here is exactly what I posted restored and I want you to point out where I lied!
Are you up to it? I think not!
<START>
Consider this:
--<END>--
I.E.
Tavish
<STOP>
>(1)Jews have lived on that land for thousands of years all the way
>back to Christ's time.The Romans called the province "Judea".
God drove Jews out and had the Temple reduced to rubble just like Jesus said
would happen!
>(2)The present land of Israel was granted to them by a vote of the
>United Nations General Assembly in 1948.
Man taking precedence over God's Will? How secular-humanitarian of you!
>It was actually a vote to "partition" the land into Jewish and Arab sections.
>However, the Palestinians left voluntarily to be out of the way of the invading
>Arab armies from Jordan, Egypt, and Syria.They assumed the Arab
>legions would drive the Jews out-they were wrong.
>They could have negotiated for their return. Instead, the PLO charter
>demanded the destruction of Israel. Arafat is thus really the one
>responsible for his people's plight. If he and his PLO had been more
>reasonable, they would be living in Israel today.
None of which refutes what I posted and none of which explains why the Temple
lays in ruins to this very day and none of which counters Jews still not have
proclaimed: 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.' in reference to
Jesus- the Messiah.
I.E.
Matthew 23:37-39 :: New International Version (NIV) and Matthew 24:1,2 :: New
International Version (NIV)
[Jesus declared]:
37 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to
you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers
her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
38 Look, your house is left to you desolate.
39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, 'Blessed is he who
comes in the name of the Lord.'
1 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him
to call his attention to its buildings.
2 "Do you see all these things?" he asked. "I tell you the truth, not one stone
here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down."
Now I ask:
1) Have Jews proclaimed: "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord."?
2) What did Jesus say would happen to the Temple buildings?
3) What state are the Temple buildings in today?
4) Has God blessed and sanctioned mankind's effort to re-establish the Jewish
Kingdom (which discriminated against all Non-Jews)?
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Subject: All Men Are Created Equal is NOT a Jewish Concept
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:27:38 -0500
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----------
John 4:9 :: New International Version (NIV)
The Samaritan woman said to him, "You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How
can you ask me for a drink?" (For Jews do not associate with Samaritans.[1] )
Footnotes:
4:9 Or do not use dishes Samaritans have used
John 4:9 :: King James Version (KJV)
Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew,
askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings
with the Samaritans.
Acts 10:25,26,27,28,34,35,37,38,39 :: King James Version (KJV)
25 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet,
and worshipped him.
26 But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.
27 And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come
together.
28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man
that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath
shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no
respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is
accepted with him.
37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and
began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who
went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God
was with him.
39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the
Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
Notice who the Apostle Peter stated as being the killers of Jesus in verse 39?
(See more about who the Children of the Devil and anti-Christs are higher up in
this post with the links under the "How First Century Christianity Was Treated
by Jews" header.) Notice all of the bigotry the Apostle Peter elaborated on?
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>>>> So go try and run them out of it, Blimpie. I'm sure they'll be impressed with
>>>> your (ahem) reasoning.
:
>>If you are so convinced that your ad hominem attack bears fruit then why did
>>you change the news groups posted to from:
>>alt.fan.g-gordon-liddy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.usa.republican,
>>alt.revisionism,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.israel,
>>talk.politics.mideast
>
>>TO
>
>>alt.revisionism,alt.bonehead.scott-bradbury?
:
>Because I couldn't care less for your spam crossposting to groups I have no
>interest in, and I confine my replies to groups where it's ostensibly on
>topic. You're the putz who wants everyone to pity you, but it's just too bad
>no one's falling for your shabby scam.
:
>>Looks like personal attacks is all you have and BTW the town and state I live
>>in has nothing to do with what I post other than a loser like you is seeking
>>to have me harassed because you don't like what I post and because you can't
>>refute what I post!
:
>You can't PROVE what you post, moronic little Nazi worshipper.
So now I am a "Nazi worshipper"? My but you trolls can only spew ad hominem
bile. I could easily call you a "Jew Worshipper" seeing how you have made
numerous posts in which you expressed a very apparent hatred of Jesus!
I.E.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=ii06cvgc9liu2ubjqfutaoqqh708o03693%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy Lied About Anti-Christ Humphrey Being a Christian...
Message-ID: <ii06cvgc9liu2ubjq...@4ax.com>
Date: 15 May 2003 02:53:13 GMT
>That's why I'm giving you every bit of respect you've earned.
>
>>>> --PLH, one little town in Xxxxx and a whole religion would be better off
>>>> for it
:
>>Why don't you ever try proving me wrong for once rather than deleting all
>>that I posted from your rude replies and then attacking me personally? You
>>can't do it! WHY? Because truth is not on your side-- if it were you would
>>be slam dunking me left and right rather than acting like a sore loser and
>>being reduced to making ad hominem attacks!
:
>Prove yourself RIGHT, IQ-40 bastard.
I did and you deleted it all! What does that say about your honesty and
intellectual capabilities?
>You can't do it to save your worthless life. You have yet to come within a
>universe of doing so, and I'm far from alone in that opinion of you.
I could care less about what your fellow trolls have to say! You and your's have
yet to refute what I post! Name call and ad hominem attacks reflect on you and
NOT on me!
>--PLH, the truly stupid, like Bradbury, never realize that they're truly
> stupid
---Traits and tactics of trolls commented on:
"Well, <<fill in the blank with whoever is smearing and/or lying now>> . . .
I've been debating 'anti-revisionists' in alt.revisionism for years and I've yet
to see you do anything other than hurl abuse at people. You people are bereft of
arguments. All you 'anti-revisionist' characters can do is call people names,
try to intimidate people, smear and defame them and, if that doesn't work, troll
like hell."
-From: "david_michael" <david_...@onetel.net.uk>
-Subject: Re: Paul Grubach
-Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 02:55:56 +0100
-Message-ID: <3ec0...@212.67.96.135>
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Tavish comment: Though I steadfastly disagreed with and ardently opposed
David's remarks about WTC it looks like he hit the nail on the head with
the observation he made above. The comment between << and >> was mine.
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