Wine - 'Separation' of Non-Jew From Jews in Making of Wine! (Their Own Words!)
Billy Dale McTavish
http://www.pswtech.com/~stevenw/jewish/kosher/l2.nonmeat_regulation.html
Steven Weintraub's Kashrut - Theory, Law and Practice Class Outline
and Notes:
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III. Law is regulation of meat, but...
Kashrut laws only apply to items considered food. The ability to eat
non-food items because kosher laws do not apply to them might seem
crazy, but it should be pointed out that many of our additives are
derived from sources which we do not consider food. The Talmud comes
up with many criteria on what is a food. One of the first line tests
is whether a dog would eat it. If a dog would not eat it is not
considered a food (Those of us who own dogs and see what they will eat
recognize this as a good minimum test.)
As stated in the last lesson, kashrut is the regulation of eating
meat. Almost all kashrut laws put restrictions on eating meat in one
form or another. Remembering this might help in practice of certain
laws. I can only think of four rules that apply to non-meat products,
all of which are rabbinic in origin.
1.Grapes (particularly grape juice products) - Because of the long
standing practice to grow grapes (particularly wine) for idolatry, the
Rabbis prohibited the eating of grape and grape products if they were
grown by an unsupervised non-Jew. Grape juice must not be in the
possession of a non-Jew unsupervised unless it is made unfit for
idolatry by boiling (Thus most kosher wine is quick boiled to allow
non-Jewish middle-men to handle it).
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Compare the last paragraph above to what B'nai B'rith has published in
the past:
From B'nai B'rith (Mother of ADL):
http://bnaibrith.org/ijm/articles/wine/index.html
Vineyard Vanguard:
The new taste of a well-aged tradition
By Joseph Berkofsky
[ ... ] (Excerpt used for "educational" purposes]
Like all other kosher food or drink, kosher wine cannot contain any
unkosher animal or fish products; to be kosher for Passover, it must
also not come in contact with any leavened grains.
But the law regarding wine extracts another, more pressing, demand: It
cannot be handled by non-Jews.
The roots of this law reach back to the ancient Land of Israel where,
to prevent Jews from drinking wines used in idol worship, Jewish law
forbade Jews to touch wine that had been moved in an open vessel by
non-Jews, since it was likely used as a wave offering. The rabbis
later went further in battling assimilation, declaring any wine
handled by a non-Jew unfit to drink.
Today, in order to ensure that a wine meets all the kashrut
requirements, the entire winemaking process from grape-crushing to
bottling is overseen by trained, Sabbath-observant Jews, or
mashgichim, who handle all flow of the wine. And, as Ben Welton, a
mashgiach for St. Supéry and others, can attest, this kind of kosher
supervision can mean as much toil as Torah.
With help from nearby non-Jewish winery workers, mashgichim operate
cranes to unload the grapes from trucks after the fall harvest. They
run the crushers which break the grapes, and pipe the crushed grapes
and juice into steel tanks. And they oversee the rest of the process
from fermentation, when yeast converts the grape's sugar into alcohol,
to filtering the wine and moving it into oak barrels to be aged.
At times, says Welton, this is dizzying work - literally. Not too long
ago, he recalls, he had to dig heavy heaps of stems from a huge
fermentation tank at St. Supéry - while wearing a lifeline to show
that he was not inhaling too much alcohol vapor.
Peak season for mashgichim like Welton is between August and January,
when most of the winemaking occurs. And, although a mashgiach need not
be on premises other than when the wine is being moved through the
process, mashgichim will occassionally return to inspect the wine as
it ages to ensure that it has not been touched by non-Jews.
But those wineries that wish to involve non-Jews in the process can
tap into a Talmudic ruling that makes this possible.
Rabbinic authorities decreed that wine, even if touched by non-Jews,
was fit for Jewish use so long as it was mevushal, or cooked. The idea
was, in part, that cooked wine is far less palatable and no one would
want to use it.
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HALACHA ON - LINE
In Memory of Rabbi Dov Ber Rosenblum z''l
a dedicated Torah scholar whose greatest love was the study and
clarification of Halacha
Food Preparations, Part One vol.2 no.10
In an effort to limit social mingling with our gentile neighbors and
the intermarriage which might result, our sages prohibited eating food
cooked by gentiles, even if all ingredients are kosher and the food is
cooked in a kosher vessel while under the watchful eye of a Jewish
supervisor.
Such food is referred to in Hebrew as bishul nochri or bishul akum. It
is particularly important to bear this isuue in mind if one has a
non-Jewish housekeeper or attendent [slave from the nations!] who
takes part in household food preparation.
When establishing this prohibition, the sages excluded foods which
would have been fully edible prior to the cooking process. Therefore,
pasteurization of milk and juice, though typically done by non-Jews,
presents no bishul nochri problem. Some authorities use this exclusion
as the justification for the common practice to drink coffee or tea
cooked by a gentile. These drinks can be viewed as basically being
flavored water. As water is drinkable prior to any cooking, water and
by extension coffee and tea, are exempted from this prohibition. Other
examples within this category would be most fruit and those vegetables
which could be eaten raw.
Another category excluded from this prohibition is that of foods that
are not dignified enough to be served on shulchan melachim - literally
the table of kings or practically, as a dish at a fancy dinner.
Accordingly, if for example, a bowl of oatmeal was cooked by a
non-Jewish housekeeper, the bishul nochri prohibition does not apply.
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HALACHA ON - LINE
In Memory of Rabbi Dov Ber Rosenblum z''l
a dedicated Torah scholar whose greatest love was the study and
clarification of Halacha
Food Production part two vol.2 no.11
In our last issue we introduced the laws of bishul nochri .
[Review: Food Preparations, Part One vol.2 no.10 In an effort to
limit social mingling with our gentile neighbors and the intermarriage
which might result, our sages prohibited eating food cooked by
gentiles, even if all ingredients are kosher and the food is cooked in
a kosher vessel while under the watchful eye of a Jewish supervisor.
Such food is referred to in Hebrew as bishul nochri or bishul akum.]
We received certain questions regarding the common practice of kosher
caterers and commercial food producers. The following additional
guidelines provide significant insight into the halachic basis for
food preperation involving significant amounts of cooking by nochrim .
The prohibition of bishul nochri applies only if the entire cooking
process is done by the nochri . If a Jew places the food on the fire
or, according to the Ashkenazic view, if he ignites or increases the
fire, no bishul nochri problem can develop. Even if the cooking
process was initiated by a nochri , as long as it was substantially
completed by a Jew (e.g. the pot was removed from the fire before the
food can be considered cooked and then returned to the fire by a Jew)
the bishul nochri prohibition will generally not be present. In the
latter case other factors must be determined and halachic guidance is
suggested.
In keeping with this rule, if the food was previously cooked by a Jew
and is merely being reheated by the nochri , no problem arises.
In summary, the bishul nochri prohibition applies only if all of the
following conditions exist :
1.the food was not fit to be eaten prior to the cooking
2.the food is fit to be served as a dish at a formal meal
3.the food was cooked entirely by a nochri (Gentile)
In a situation in which bishul nochri did occur, the vessels in which
the food was cooked are regarded as having non-kosher absorptions. It
is therefore necessary to kasher them prior to further use. However,
since the prohibition involved is only of Rabbinic origin, some
leniencies do apply. If the utensil in question is for some halachic
or practical reason incapable of undergoing a typical absorption
removal process, Rabbinic guidance may yield allowance to use it
without the conventional kashering.
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Well world Jewish Community- how can you possibly make an alibi for
this bit of religious bigotry and racism that you manifest toward
Gentiles? Care to give this a try? Perhaps it is this kind of stuff
that has made you all so unpopular throughout all time?
If you wish to cry about persecution then you all need to answer for
your earlier episodes of religious bigotry and violence as well as
documented here:
Matthew 23:34 (English-RSV)
[Jesus warned] Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and
scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will
scourge in your synagogues and persecute from town to town....
The fulfillment:
Acts 5:27-30,40,41 (English-RSV)
27 And when they had brought them [Apostles], they set them before the
council. And the high priest questioned them,
28 saying, "We strictly charged you not to teach in this name, yet
here you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching and you intend to
bring this man's blood upon us."
29 But Peter and the apostles answered, "We must obey God rather than
men.
30 The God of our fathers raised Jesus whom you killed by hanging him
on a tree.
40 ... they had called in the apostles, they beat them and charged
them not to speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go.
41 Then they left the presence of the council, rejoicing that they
were counted worthy to suffer dishonor for the name.
Acts 8:1-3 (English-RSV)
1 And Saul was consenting to his death. And on that day a great
persecution arose against the church in Jerusalem; and they were all
scattered throughout the region of Judea and Sama'ria, except the
apostles.
2 Devout men buried Stephen, and made great lamentation over him.
3 But Saul was ravaging the church, and entering house after house, he
dragged off men and women and committed them to prison.
Acts 9:1,2 (English-RSV)
1 But Saul, still breathing threats and murder against the disciples
of the Lord, went to the high priest
2 and asked him for letters to the synagogues at Damascus, so that if
he found any belonging to the Way, men or women, he might bring them
bound to Jerusalem.
Saul later became the Apostle Paul after being "converted" on the road
to Damascus and here is his confession of what he did to Christians:
Acts 22:1,2,4,5-8,19,20 (English-RSV)
1[Apostle Paul speaks]"Brethren and fathers, hear the defense which I
now make before you."
2 And when they heard that he addressed them in the Hebrew language,
they were the more quiet. And he said:
4 I persecuted this Way to the death, binding and delivering to prison
both men and women,
5 as the high priest and the whole council of elders bear me witness.
From them I received letters to the brethren, and I journeyed to
Damascus to take those also who were there and bring them in bonds to
Jerusalem to be punished.
6 "As I made my journey and drew near to Damascus, about noon a great
light from heaven suddenly shone about me.
7 And I fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to me, 'Saul,
Saul, why do you persecute me?'
8 And I answered, 'Who are you, Lord?' And he said to me, 'I am Jesus
of Nazareth whom you are persecuting.' ......
19 And I said, 'Lord, they themselves know that in every synagogue I
imprisoned and beat those who believed in thee. [YLT version: and I
said, Lord, they -- they know that I was imprisoning and was scourging
in every synagogue those believing on thee]
20 And when the blood of Stephen thy witness was shed, I also was
standing by and approving, and keeping the garments of those who
killed him.' ....
More of Apostle Paul confessing and repenting from his wickedness:
Acts 26:9-11 (English-RSV)
9 "I myself was convinced that I ought to do many things in opposing
the name of Jesus of Nazareth.
10 And I did so in Jerusalem; I not only shut up many of the saints in
prison, by authority from the chief priests, but when they were put to
death I cast my vote against them.
11 And I punished them often in all the synagogues and tried to make
them blaspheme; and in raging fury against them, I persecuted them
even to foreign cities.
{The Apostle Paul was really some sort of a vicious "Nazi" wasn't he
when he existed as a Pharisee named Saul? He did all of this
persecution in the name of Judaism! Proof below.}
Galatians 1:1,13,14 (English-RSV)
1 Paul an apostle--not from men nor through man, but through Jesus
Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead--
13 For you have heard of my former life in Judaism, how I persecuted
the church of God violently and tried to destroy it;
14 and I advanced in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my
people, so extremely zealous was I for the traditions of my fathers.
Acts 26:1,4,5 (English-RSV)
1 Agrippa said to Paul, "You have permission to speak for yourself."
Then Paul stretched out his hand and made his defense:
4 "My manner of life from my youth, spent from the beginning among my
own nation and at Jerusalem, is known by all the Jews.
5 They have known for a long time, if they are willing to testify,
that according to the strictest party of our religion I have lived as
a Pharisee.
Here is what the Universal Encyclopedia (1905 ed) says of the
relations of the First Century Christians and Pharisees: "In the
passages referring to the Christian period, "minim" usually indicates
Judeo-Christians.... During the first century of Christianity the
Rabbis lived on friendly terms with the minim.... These friendly
feelings, however, gradually gave way to violent hatred, as the minim
separated themselves from all connection with Jews and propagated
writings which the Rabbis considered more dangerous to the unity of
Judaism than those of the pagans. 'The writings of the minim,' says
Rabbi Tarfon, 'deserve to be burned, even though the holy name of God
occurs therein'... It was forbidden to partake meat, bread, and wine
with the min. Scrolls of the Law, tefillin, and mezuzot written by a
min were burned (Git. 45b ; Yer, Shab. 14b ; Ab, Zarah 40b...) ... The
relatives of a min were not permitted to observe the laws of mourning
after his death, but they were required to assume festive garments and
rejoice (Sem. ii. 10; Yoreh De'ah, 345).... an Israelite who found
anything belonging to a min was forbidden to return it to him (see
Hoshen Mishpat, 266, 2)." Univ Jew Encyc (1905) page 595
{The claim made above: "During the first century of Christianity the
Rabbis lived on friendly terms with the minim." is out of agreement
with what the Bible said.}
We can only conclude with what was written before our time:
[From a previous post]
The Apostle now says of the enemies of Christ: "Who is the liar if it
is not the one that denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the
antichrist..." 1 John 2:22 Note that there are many antichrists not
just one that is taught by the Pharisees allies: "...just as you have
heard that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many
antichrists..." 1 John 2:19
Many of the "Churches of Polluted Christendom" teach that "only one
antichrist will come at a certain hour in the future" but this is not
true and it blows a smoke screen to defend all the antichrists in
operation today. If you falsely teach that antichrist is not here yet;
then you are only covering for those that deny Jesus and his
teachings. Much of Christendom has already received its thirty
pieces of silver from the Pharisees and has therefore made
itself a Judas or betrayer too!
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For further information:
Looking at what the first century Pharisees did to Christians and
knowing what they did during the Bolshevik Revolution only make you
wonder why they are still seeking damages from the decendents of
Nazis. The Pharisees were first in everything so why should they keep
hand wringing and wailing for what was done to them as they had done
to others?
http://lcweb.loc.gov/exhibits/archives/d2presid.html
http://www.hrc.wmin.ac.uk/guest/radical/ES-BOLSH.HTM#4
http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
Date: Thu, Nov 30, 1995 5:32 PM EDT
By Philippa Fletcher
MOSCOW (Reuter) - A Russian presidential commission said
Monday that 200,000 clergy were systematically murdered under
Soviet rule in a horrific cycle of crucifixions, scalpings and
``bestial tortures.''
Commission chairman Alexander Yakovlev, presenting the
report at a news conference, seemed unconcerned that it might
deter electors from voting communist or nationalist in
parliamentary elections on Dec. 17.
``If it has an influence, I will be very satisfied,'' he
said.
The report by the Commission for the Rehabilitation of the
Victims of Political Repression also found that another 500,000
religious figures suffered persecution in the decades after
Vladimir Lenin's Bolsheviks seized power.
``Documents relate how clergymen, monks, nuns were crucified
on royal gates and shot in the basements of the Cheka (secret
police), scalped, strangled, drowned and submitted to other
bestial tortures,'' he said.
Yakovlev said some of the material, from archives of the
former ruling politburo and security services, had not been
previously published and that uncovering it was traumatic.
``I was especially shocked by accounts of priests turned
into columns of ice in winter... But that's not all, there were
crucifixions ... It was total cruelty.''
He said hundreds of people were shot for not giving up
church property, and only a fraction of the proceeds were spent
on the poor as the authorities had promised.
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