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Brian Smith

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Are you tired of waking up to life in the Jewish society, and the
racial "diversity" it has created? Are you tired of waking up every
day to news about the latest drive-by shooting that happened last
night? Or about some bizarre and gruesome killing which bespeaks the
fact that our society is literally going insane? Or reading some
headline -- which assaults your senses even before you can inject the
first cup of caffeine into your system -- which bewails the latest
concern of Israel or "Holocaust Remembrance" for which the U.S.
taxpayer will be made to pay?

Are you tired of surreal, game-show host politicians who actively or
passively are nothing more than toadies for the Jewish establishment,
who continually toe the politically correct line while our society is
deliberately turned into a brown, declining, crime-filled sludge? Are
you tired of having to pay over $5.5 BILLION dollars to Israel every
year (over $15 million every DAY!) so Jews over there can mooch off
our money and the "brave" Israelis can rob and kill more Arab women
and children on our dime?

Are you tired of the watching the conditions around your city decline?
Of the crime which makes you feel like a prisoner in your own home?
Of waiting in traffic and some non-White -- full of the braggadocio
and primitive ego typical of a jungle savage -- drives up next to you
blaring a horrid cacaphony of bass notes and ridiculous, insipid "rap"
lyrics at high decibels, during which the monkoid looks around proudly
at his capacity to broadcast his idiotic and retarded anti-music into
the world around him?

Or seeing a group of obnoxious mestizo gang members congregating in a
mall, wearing their gang garb and hats turned backward, speaking back
and forth to other in gutteral Spanish interspersed with
horribly-deformed American words ("hey meng!"), all the while trying
to look "tough" and "cool"? Seeing throngs of sub-men and muddy
invaders which the proud, WHITE MEN who founded America would have
disgustedly run out of the country without a second thought?

Or turning on MTV and seeing disgusting and revolting scenes of a
White woman jerking back and forth to a grotesque multi-sequenced
ghetto mantra repeating with brain-numbing redundancy while some
arm-waving Negro moron wearing sunglasses, an ostentatious array of
tawdry gold chains, and an NFL Oakland raider hat heaps hyperbolic
self-praise and obscure inner-city accolades on himself amid a crowd
of gyrating Negro women? Or seeing a TV documentary titled "RACISM:
America's Greatest Danger", when the last time you checked the sort of
people you instinctively know are your greatest danger -- for which
you have both a car and house alarm -- were at no time referenced to
on the show?

Are you sick of turning on your television and watching perpetual
scenes full of multiracial propaganda -- Negroes in business suits,
commercials for security alarms showing WHITE robbers, anti-White
story lines in the television shows, the persecuted Negro sherriff and
the evil White local villain -- scenes you know instinctively are
nothing more than racial reality INVERTED? Have you ever wondered
why these same unreal, unlikely scenes are repeated in nearly all
shows and movies alike? Have you thought that perhaps it WASN'T an
accident?

Are you sick of seeing your friends having to move away to "better
places" in the U.S. -- places with lower crime (i.e., places that are
more WHITE)? Or hearing mainstream Churches preach "JESUS hates
racism!", that our main worry should not be the future of man or the
destruction of our world but achieving immortality in the after-world
-- and a host of superstitious, fatuous, dysgenic, destructive, and
racially-suicidal tenets besides?

Are you sick of paying higher and higher taxes to the U.S. government
knowing it will go directly to a bottomless welfare system that
disproportionately consists of fast-breeding non-White criminals,
foreigners, and parasites? Of watching waves of smelly, ugly, dark,
and strange non-White immigrants -- both legal and illegal alike --
flood into the country, turning it into a babbliing, chaotic, poor,
over-crowded and alienated one with no purpose or meaning beyond the
media-sanctioned ones of sex, food, materialism, football, and
escapist entertainment?

Or reading your children's textbooks and finding them FULL of
egalitarian/leftist/homo agitprop and ludicrous Afro-centric fantasy?
Or having to deal with incomptent minorities hired only for their skin
color -- lazy, indolent, and nasty? Of being put on hold by some
"African-American" clock-watcher who can barely communicate on the
phone or even understand the simple problem you are trying to convey,
even after you've already repeated it twice in the most
intellectually-reduced language you can possibly muster?

WE, the men and women of the NATIONAL ALLIANCE, are working to build a
future for our children, free of lethal effect of Jewish control.
JOIN US, in this great movement to create a better world for ourselves
and the next generation.

Brian Smith
http://www.natall.com


Richard G. Phillips

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Jun 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/29/97
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Brian Smith wrote:
>
> Are you tired of waking up to life in the Jewish society, and the
> racial "diversity" it has created? Are you tired of waking up every
> day to news about the latest drive-by shooting that happened last
> night? Or about some bizarre and gruesome killing which bespeaks the
> fact that our society is literally going insane? Or reading some
> headline -- which assaults your senses even before you can inject the
> first cup of caffeine into your system -- which bewails the latest
> concern of Israel or "Holocaust Remembrance" for which the U.S.
> taxpayer will be made to pay?
>

Phillips
Yes, I for one am Goddamned sick of all of those things. I would join
your National Alliance if I could but, as it happens, my gandparents
came from the wrong place. But that doesn't stop me from being a 100%
sympathizer.

John Teggatz

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In article <5p64qn$sgt$1...@news01a.micron.net>, sbr...@micron.net (Brian
Smith) wrote:

> Are you tired of waking up to life in the Jewish society, and the
> racial "diversity" it has created?

No, but I sure got tired of your long-winded, non-sensical post... stopped
reading when I realized it was more of the same old same old. Get smart,
get original, or get off.

Real Name

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Hi,

"as it happens, my gandparents came from the wrong place."

It's a big secret, that there are any number of non-white nationalist
groups.
They tent to be smaller, and fewer, but there is no race that is not
represented by an organization dedicated to its' own self-rule.

There is no real need to feel out of place among
alt.politics.nationalism.white. You have every right to feel entirely
comfortable among those of your own kind. You may have to search DejaNews, or
devote whatever effort it takes to finding your national community; but it's
out there.

While we're certainly competitors, and naturally uncomfortable in each
others' presence; there doesn't have to be the violent enemity that inevitably
results from mixing.

Contrary to the statements of those playing us off against one another:
I have no persistent personal emotions toward other kinds, good or bad. I
simply accept the reality that mixing is one political tool, to distract us
both (all) from the dishonorable conduct of our aristocracies.
There is one group that has abused our generous nature beyond hope of
tolerance, but except for the necessary emotional investment to restore the
basis of my Nationhood, I really don't harbour any special animosity toward
even them.

I wish you well in your search.
Think what you will, about me. Nationality is a right. Yours and mine.
We both benefit from the kinds of competition that results from joining with
your own to exceed the efforts of a competing nation. And when I don't have to
have the Sheriff on my porch with a gun, demanding money that the politicians
are giving to your kind, perhaps, we can even respect each other.

Ken.

-----------------------------Reply Separator---------------------------------
On 6/29/97 9:52AM, in message <33B6A0...@earthlink.net>, "Richard G.
Phillips" <rgp...@earthlink.net> wrote:

Brian Smith wrote:
>
> Are you tired of waking up to life in the Jewish society, and the
> racial "diversity" it has created? Are you tired of waking up every
> day to news about the latest drive-by shooting that happened last
> night? Or about some bizarre and gruesome killing which bespeaks the
> fact that our society is literally going insane? Or reading some
> headline -- which assaults your senses even before you can inject the
> first cup of caffeine into your system -- which bewails the latest
> concern of Israel or "Holocaust Remembrance" for which the U.S.
> taxpayer will be made to pay?
>

Phillips

John Morris

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In <5p64qn$sgt$1...@news01a.micron.net>, on Sun, 29 Jun 1997 17:28:58

GMT, sbr...@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>Are you tired of waking up to life in the Jewish society, and the
>racial "diversity" it has created?

Tired of male-pattern baldness? Unhappy that your wife ran off?
Failing in school? Car won't start?

Then the Hitlerclones (tm) at the National Alliance have got something
for you! It's the JEWS!

No matter how pathetic your life is, blame the Jews. Never again will
you have to take responsibility for anything that has gone wrong in
your life: the Jews are to blame for everything!

[snip]

>Brian Smith
>http://www.natall.com

They can prove it, folks! Just check out their web article "Who Rules
America." It contains an Actual List of Jews. It is a real eye-opener
because it is an Actual List of Jews.

Predicted response: Brian Smith will threaten to beat me up, or he
will post an ascii art picture of his bum. Like this one:

>From: sbr...@micron.net (Brian Smith)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>Subject: Re: Of Chutes-and Slips-and Sealing Cracks
>Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 07:45:42 GMT
>Organization: Micron Internet Services
>Lines: 78
>Message-ID: <5p52l7$mri$1...@news01a.micron.net>
>References: <mvanalst-240...@rbi140.rbi.com>
<19970626055...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: cboi091p12.boi.micron.net
>X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82
>Xref: pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca alt.revisionism:186836

[snip]

> Archive THIS, Nizkook!
>
> ( )( )
> \ | | /
>
>MOONING the Nizkor Camera!

--
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Scripture veteris capiunt exempla futuri>
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Doc Tavish

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Jun 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/29/97
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John Morris wrote:
>
> In <5p64qn$sgt$1...@news01a.micron.net>, on Sun, 29 Jun 1997 17:28:58
> GMT, sbr...@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:
>
> >Are you tired of waking up to life in the Jewish society, and the
> >racial "diversity" it has created?
>
> Tired of male-pattern baldness? Unhappy that your wife ran off?
> Failing in school? Car won't start?
>
> Then the Hitlerclones (tm) at the National Alliance have got something
> for you! It's the JEWS!
>
> No matter how pathetic your life is, blame the Jews. Never again will
> you have to take responsibility for anything that has gone wrong in
> your life: the Jews are to blame for everything!
>
> [snip]
>
> >Brian Smith
> >http://www.natall.com
>
> They can prove it, folks! Just check out their web article "Who Rules
> America." It contains an Actual List of Jews. It is a real eye-opener
> because it is an Actual List of Jews.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *



> Predicted response: Brian Smith will threaten to beat me up, or he
> will post an ascii art picture of his bum.

Tavish replies:
Brian as well as all others (I included) know the passions you Kosher
Kinnipers all have for homosexuals and gay rights. We are only humoring
you! Go check all the pro-homosexual crap at the Jewish ADL website!

> Like this one:

> >From: sbr...@micron.net (Brian Smith)
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: Re: Of Chutes-and Slips-and Sealing Cracks
> >Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 07:45:42 GMT
> >Organization: Micron Internet Services
> >Lines: 78
> >Message-ID: <5p52l7$mri$1...@news01a.micron.net>
> >References: <mvanalst-240...@rbi140.rbi.com>
> <19970626055...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
> >NNTP-Posting-Host: cboi091p12.boi.micron.net
> >X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82
> >Xref: pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca alt.revisionism:186836
>
> [snip]
>
> > Archive THIS, Nizkook!
> >
> > ( )( )
> > \ | | /
> >
> >MOONING the Nizkor Camera!
>
> --
> John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
> at University of Alberta <Scripture veteris capiunt exempla futuri>
> --
> The Nizkor Project | http://www.nizkor.org/


Tavish replies:
I'd put my whacker on the screen but most of you don't have large
screened computer monitors yet! :->

wjd

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i really enjoy reading you jew haters pathetic stories. Blame yourself.
Change yourself. Empower yourself. But make no mistake its your fault.

Chuck Ferree

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Chuck Ferree wrote:

Given a choice between the so-called Jewish Society and the Nazi
society...I opted for the Jewish side because they are...good people and
harm no one whereas the Nazis....well their track record is really evil.
I don't like evil, or bigots, or racists, or the white power bunch of
idiots.

John Morris wrote:
>
> In <5p64qn$sgt$1...@news01a.micron.net>, on Sun, 29 Jun 1997 17:28:58
> GMT, sbr...@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:
>

> >Are you tired of waking up to life in the Jewish society, and the
> >racial "diversity" it has created?

CHUCK:>>>I'm just happy to wake up. Wish some of the turkeys would.

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Brian Smith

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John....@UAlberta.CA (John Morris) wrote:

>No matter how pathetic your life is, blame the Jews. Never again will
>you have to take responsibility for anything that has gone wrong in
>your life: the Jews are to blame for everything!

Aw, come on, John. Jews never take responsibility for their wrongs.
Yet they chronically whine, blame others, and extort money for
"holocaust" distortions, smears, and lies . They're the biggest
hypocrites who ever walked.

[John's remaining crap snipped]

Archive THIS, Nizkook!

( )( )
\ | | /

MOONING the Nizkor Camera!

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Ford

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On Sun, 29 Jun 1997 17:28:58 GMT, sbr...@micron.net (Brian Smith)
wrote:

>Are you tired of waking up to life in the Jewish society, and the


>racial "diversity" it has created? Are you tired of waking up every
>day to news about the latest drive-by shooting that happened last
>night? Or about some bizarre and gruesome killing which bespeaks the
>fact that our society is literally going insane? Or reading some
>headline -- which assaults your senses even before you can inject the
>first cup of caffeine into your system -- which bewails the latest
>concern of Israel or "Holocaust Remembrance" for which the U.S.
>taxpayer will be made to pay?
>

What I am tired of is posts like yours that do provide one ounce of
evidence to support your off the wall believes and waking up to the
religious right attempting to foist their views and believes on
others. I'll practice, (or not practice) any religion of my choice
and don't need the southern baptists and religious right telling me
that their brand of religion is the only "correct" religion in the
known universe.

Ford
Why isn't there mouse-flavored cat food?

Philip Kasiecki

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In article <5p64qn$sgt$1...@news01a.micron.net>,
Brian Smith (sbr...@micron.net) wrote:
: Are you tired of waking up to life in the Jewish society, and the

: racial "diversity" it has created?

Are we tired of waking up in the White supremacist society, and all
the division it has caused? Fuck yeah!!

: Are you tired of surreal, game-show host politicians who actively or


: passively are nothing more than toadies for the Jewish establishment,
: who continually toe the politically correct line while our society is
: deliberately turned into a brown, declining, crime-filled sludge?

I sure am tired of the politicians who do nothing but exploit our
underclass, make the rich richer (including themselves), and abuse their
power. And I'm also tired of folks like this poster calling fellow
humans derogatory names.

: Are you tired of the watching the conditions around your city decline?


: Of the crime which makes you feel like a prisoner in your own home?
: Of waiting in traffic and some non-White -- full of the braggadocio
: and primitive ego typical of a jungle savage -- drives up next to you
: blaring a horrid cacaphony of bass notes and ridiculous, insipid "rap"
: lyrics at high decibels, during which the monkoid looks around proudly
: at his capacity to broadcast his idiotic and retarded anti-music into
: the world around him?

I certainly am tired of folks like this poster portraying crime as a
"non-White problem", when it is an *AMERICAN* problem that affects us
all. And I'm tired of folks like this poster acting like people fit
into little boxes based solely on their skin color, which serves to
indicate that he doesn't get out at all.

: Or seeing a group of obnoxious mestizo gang members congregating in a


: mall, wearing their gang garb and hats turned backward, speaking back
: and forth to other in gutteral Spanish interspersed with
: horribly-deformed American words ("hey meng!"), all the while trying
: to look "tough" and "cool"?

Hmmm... lots of White kids and Black kids do that, too...

: Seeing throngs of sub-men and muddy invaders which the proud, WHITE


: MEN who founded America would have disgustedly run out of the country
: without a second thought?

This is hillarious, coming from someone who doesn't know what it
means to be proud, but only to hate himself and others.

: Or seeing a TV documentary titled "RACISM: America's Greatest Danger",


: when the last time you checked the sort of people you instinctively
: know are your greatest danger -- for which you have both a car and
: house alarm -- were at no time referenced to on the show?

Ridiculous. Racism will be the reason this country falls apart
before long, unless folks get their heads on straight.

: Are you sick of turning on your television and watching perpetual


: scenes full of multiracial propaganda -- Negroes in business suits,

Funny. I see such folks in everyday life, even in Boston, which
isn't exactly loaded with Black people.

: anti-White story lines in the television shows

Translation: TV shows that don't promote White supremacy.

: scenes you know instinctively are nothing more than racial reality
: INVERTED?

Wonder what "racial reality" this idiot is babbling about...

: Or hearing mainstream Churches preach "JESUS hates racism!"

Well, Jesus dud not teach us to hate people based on the color of
their skin.

: Are you sick of paying higher and higher taxes to the U.S. government


: knowing it will go directly to a bottomless welfare system that
: disproportionately consists of fast-breeding non-White criminals,
: foreigners, and parasites?

I'd love to see him prove this; bet he won't, since he can't, and
since he always dodges challenges to his assertions.

: Or having to deal with incomptent minorities hired only for their skin


: color -- lazy, indolent, and nasty? Of being put on hold by some
: "African-American" clock-watcher who can barely communicate on the
: phone or even understand the simple problem you are trying to convey,
: even after you've already repeated it twice in the most
: intellectually-reduced language you can possibly muster?

Or having to deal with the racist who talks about the world the way
he *wants* it to be, instead of how it is.

: WE, the men and women of the NATIONAL ALLIANCE, are working to build a


: future for our children, free of lethal effect of Jewish control.
: JOIN US, in this great movement to create a better world for ourselves
: and the next generation.

*ROTFL*

Phil Kasiecki

--
Philip T. Kasiecki
Electrical and Computer Engineering
Northeastern University Class of 1999

"None of us alone can save the nation or the
world. But each of us can make a positive
difference if we commit ourselves to do so."
-Cornel West, "Race Matters"

Doc Tavish

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wjd wrote:
>
> i really enjoy reading you jew haters pathetic stories. Blame yourself.
> Change yourself. Empower yourself. But make no mistake its your fault.

Tavish replies:

Concerning your statement: "But make no mistake its your fault"; whose
fault is Communism? My fault or Jews?

Can you refute these truths "wjd?" or do you wish to keep yammering of
things of which you know nothing about?

Among the Jews who remained in Russia,
which then included Lithuania, Ukraine
(A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky,
Yale University Press, 1941, passim), and
much of Poland, were the founders of the
Russian Bolshevik party:

In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union
of Jewish workers in Poland and Lithuania. . .
They engaged in revolutionary activity upon
a large scale, and their energy made them the
spearhead of the Party (Article on "Communism"
by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III,
pp 824-827).

The name Bolsheviki means majority (from
Russian Bolshe, the larger) and commemorates the
fact that at the Brussels-London conference of
the party in late 1902 and early 1903, the
violent Marxist program of Lenin was adopted by
a 25 to 23 vote, the less violent minority or
"Mensheviki" Marxists fading finally from the
picture after Stalin's triumph in October, 1917.
It has been also stated that the term Bolshevik
refers to the "larger" or more violent program
of the majority faction. After (1918) the
Bolsheviki called their organization the Communist
Party.

The Zionist Jews were another group that laid
its plan in Russia as a part of the new re-
orientation of Russian Jewry after the collapse
of Haskalah and the assassination (1881) of
Alexander II. "On November 6, 1884, for the first
time in history, a Jewish international assembly
was held at Kattowitz, near the Russian frontier,
where representatives from all classes and
different countries met and decided to colonize
Palestine. . ." (The Haskalah Movement in Russia,
p. 285). For a suggestion of the solidarity of
purpose between the Jewish Bund, which was the
core of the Communist Party, and early Zionism,
see Grayzel (op. cit., p. 662). "Henceforth a
heightened sense of race-consciousness takes the
place formerly held by religion and is soon to
develop into a concrete nationalism with Zion as
its goal" (Graetz-Raisin, Vol. p. 168).

In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth
century, not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews
had been attracted to the writings of Karl Marx
(1818-1883), partly, it seems, because he was
Jewish in origin. "On both paternal and maternal
sides Karl Marx was descended from rabbinical
families" (Univ. Jew. Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).

BTW "wjd" before you start name calling and refer to me
as an anti-Semite then you should also consider:

[T]he Khazar Zionists from Soviet
Russia were not descended from the people of Hebrew
religion in Palestine, ancient or modern, and thus not
being descended from Old Testament People (The Lost
Tribes, by Allen H. Godbey, Duke University Press, Durham,
N.C., 1930, pp. 257, 301, and passim), they have no
Biblical claim to Palestine.

Also ask yourself these questions:
How many Old Testament Prophets spoke Yiddish?
How many Old Testament Prophets quoted the Talmud?
How many Old Testament Prophets were Ashkenazi Jews?

The same questions could be asked concerning the
New Testament also!

wjd

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wjd wrote:"...i really enjoy reading you jew haters pathetic stories.

Blame yourself. Change yourself. Empower yourself. But make no mistake
its your fault...."

Doc Tavish wrote:"... BTW "wjd" before you start name calling and refer
to me as an anti-Semite then you should also consider..."

wjd wrote:"...never would call you an anti-semite. If I call you a name,
then you would be limited by definition to that name. One word wouldnt
be enough.

Doc Tavish wrote:"...Can you refute these truths "wjd?" or do you wish
to keep yammering of things of which you know nothing about?..."

wjd wrote:"...Truths? Are there not more than one truth to each fact?
yammering? Is that some kind of vegetable? What I know is forward
motion.......action. Proactive action. Not reaction. I dont blame
someone for something I could change or influence. Remember, that first
you must clean up your own back yard before you change the world.

I wish you the best

Daren - remove ^ to email

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On Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:33:43 GMT, ga...@dialnet.nett (Ford) wrote:

>What I am tired of is posts like yours that do provide one ounce of
>evidence to support your off the wall believes and waking up to the
>religious right attempting to foist their views and believes on
>others. I'll practice, (or not practice) any religion of my choice
>and don't need the southern baptists and religious right telling me
>that their brand of religion is the only "correct" religion in the
>known universe.
>
>Ford
>Why isn't there mouse-flavored cat food?

Do you object as loudly to paying extra money for "kosher foods?"
Check your cabinets, all the food with a K or a U on it has been
marked up in price in order to compensate for the company paying a
Rabbi to "bless the food."

If that doesn't bother you, how would you feel if the religious right
was doing it?

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>Are you tired of waking up to life in the Jewish society, and the
>racial "diversity" it has created?
You've got it all wrong. The liberals who have created this so-called
diversity, as well as their liberalism, are by and large nordic, and it
is the nordics who are to blame not the Jews. Look at every Nordic
nation and people in Europe, they are all much more super-permissive and
ultra-liberal as well as much more compassionate towards minorities of
the nonwhite variety than the southern countries. It is the italians and
the French, even the Spanish as well, who take action on a street level.
If US whites were more latin/ southern European than nordic in
composition, than this shit would have never happened. It was those
whites from northern European backgrounds who wanted to " preserve the
Northern European heritage of the US " as Ernst ( asshole ) Zundel put
it, who really were responsible for this, not the Jews. These guys are
the ones who shut the door on the southern Europeans, which is what gave
a jump start to empowering the descendants of the slaves. It was their
fault, for not wanting America to be transformed like Argentina was.
Buenos Aires in the time of Rosas ( 1840s ) had quite a few blacks, yet
today it has no more than a handful and Argentina is the whitest country
in the western hemisphere. Although crime there has been on the increase
recently I still believe it is among the 10 safest big cities in the
world. No American city falls into this category. Perhaps if the US had
been similarly transformed we would not have the problems we have right
now. I know you are part Italian like myself. So why can't you, as a
fellow paisano, see this shit? Throughout the history of the US the main
bleeding hearts have not been Jews but WASPs.
Are you tired of waking up every
>day to news about the latest drive-by shooting that happened last
>night?
This is a result of having super-permissive gun laws. You don't find
this shit in Europe, even in Britain which in the cities is almost as
heavily minority as the US. This is why I feel less scared even in the
most crime ridden cities in southern Europe like Napoli and Barcelona
than in the safest American suburb. I walked across Palermo at night and
never felt scared. I was staying in Barcelona's Barrio Chino, one of the
worst neighbourhoods in the whole of western Europe, and never felt in
danger. It's not only that you can't beat everyone looking like you,
which is not true anywhere in the US to the same extent, but because
also those nations are too intelligent to have such permissive gun laws.
Most countries treat guns exactly like hard drugs - this makes more
sense than the hypocritical US which is supertough on drugs and
superlenient on guns because of all this bleeding heart shit.
Or about some bizarre and gruesome killing which bespeaks the
>fact that our society is literally going insane?
America was founded on violence and criminality and has always been a
violent society, although during some eras that violence was more
focused and directed towards certain groups. If you don't like it go to
Europe - that's what i'm doing in 1999. What's the closest Euro nation,
Portugal ? Oh, I forgot that you pseudo-aryan scum don't like Portugal
for some obscure reason, despite its long defence of white supremacy and
its close friendship with South Africa and Rhodesia for years, under
Salazar and Caetano. Somehow Portugal is in your disfavor ( they did
nothing different than any other European colonial nation ) while all
these ultra-left wing, super-bleeding heart practically communist
nations in Scandinavia who go out of their way to help black Africa, are
in your list of good guys. Doesn't make sense, but what do you expect
from scum who think that " aryans " have blue eyes and blond hair, when
Aryan means the same thing as Iranian. " Iran " translates to " Aryan
homeland ". A pure Aryan is an Iranian.
Or reading some
>headline -- which assaults your senses even before you can inject the
>first cup of caffeine into your system -- which bewails the latest
>concern of Israel or "Holocaust Remembrance" for which the U.S.
>taxpayer will be made to pay?
Its not as bad as paying for the war on drugs.

>Are you tired of surreal, game-show host politicians who actively or
>passively are nothing more than toadies for the Jewish establishment,
>who continually toe the politically correct line while our society is
>deliberately turned into a brown, declining, crime-filled sludge?
Substitute " nordic " for Jewish. It's the Nordics who are so ga-ga
about nonwhites. Blame them. Jews have nothing to do with this. For
every guilty Jew there are a hundred guilty nordics.

Are
>you tired of having to pay over $5.5 BILLION dollars to Israel every
>year (over $15 million every DAY!) so Jews over there can mooch off
>our money and the "brave" Israelis can rob and kill more Arab women
>and children on our dime?
Israel serves US interests. Better that they go die than Americans. I do
think Israel gets too much money from the US though, being that they get
all the goodies like socialised medicine and hefty unemployment
benefits, and all the public services and welfare state of the first
world, when our public services and our benefits are somewhere between
Albania and Gabon. Israel has all the things Europe has, while we're
basically a third world country except for our military. I do not like
this aspect, but I'm not against aid for Israel per se.But if the Jews
really did take power in this country, life would be a lot better for
all Americans. A Jewish run America would be a much more civilised
place. The nordics have really fucked it up. They empowered the others
to get back at the southern Europeans. Blame them.

>Are you tired of the watching the conditions around your city decline?
This is not the fault of the Jews. The Jews in LA are a positive force,
possibly the only positive force.

>Of the crime which makes you feel like a prisoner in your own home?
That's just as much a fault of poor public transportation as it is
crime, which is here the fault of the oil companies - almost all run by
gentiles, and traditionally quite anti-Jewish - and other corporate
WASPs, who dismantled the good public transport that we once had. Anyway
the minorities were empowered by the nordics.

>Of waiting in traffic and some non-White -- full of the braggadocio
>and primitive ego typical of a jungle savage
Because nordics tolerate it. Non-nordic whites bear no guilt over
slavery. This is why many Italian-Americans, rather than flee like
scared lemmings in disgraceful acts of white flight, held their ground
and fought off the invaders, keeping their neighbourhoods civilised
places. Those who engage in white flight do not deserve to hold any
respect. This is why white Americans are by and large the laughing stock
of the world. But this is by and large because most white Americans are
disproportionally nordic. What do you expect from such scum ? Although
to be fair these practices that were originally engaged in only be
blacks have spread to the white community, as young white American kids,
divorced from their history by the US attitude which seeks to destroy
anything that could stand in the way of corporate profits, see black
culture as being more " soulful " , which has to do with Americans'
reluctance to travel to other parts of the world and thus being divorced
from their history and ultimately sanity. Instead they waste their money
on large suburban homes and consumer goods, all the while being scared
to walk around outside or hang out at night, and in too many places
dependent upon cars to go anywhere as their neighbourhoods too often
have only houses. How sick ! US suburbia followed prototypes planned out
in the Third Reich, the sickest and most decadent regime in the history
of humanity. This separation of living space from public space, and
willing abandonment of cities, is what paved the way for our current
high crime. If people are all around all the time, crime decreases. Our
way of life encourages crime. This is not the fault of the Jews, a
relatively small group, but that of nordics, the true enemy of the white
race.
-- drives up next to you
>blaring a horrid cacaphony of bass notes and ridiculous, insipid "rap"
>lyrics at high decibels, during which the monkoid looks around proudly
>at his capacity to broadcast his idiotic and retarded anti-music into
>the world around him?
>
>Or seeing a group of obnoxious mestizo gang members congregating in a
>mall, wearing their gang garb and hats turned backward, speaking back
>and forth to other in gutteral Spanish interspersed with
>horribly-deformed American words ("hey meng!"), all the while trying
>to look "tough" and "cool"?
This is because nordics do not value fashion, and set standards for
"coolness " which reflect their total lack of aesthetics, which of
course nonwhites pick up on. US society tolerates gangs more than every
other country in the world combined, a reflection of our weak family
structure which is a reflection of nordic roots. Countries like Sweden
and Norway have weak family structures too, but they have less problems
because of their homogenity. We impose nordic norms on nonwhites - a
recipe for disaster. But as far as looking " tough " and " cool " goes
by wearing ugly clothes : if Italians ran the show ugly clothes would
not be tolerated. Just look at places like the Costa del Sol or the
Italian Adriatic, where my ancestors came from, you can always tell the
foreigners by their ugly, baggy clothes, their lack of fashion sense,
and their blond hair and blue eyes, as well as talking in gibberish and
being named like members of ABBA. Meanwhile the locals are the best
looking best dressed people in the world. It was nordics who fucked
things up by valuing the third world over the region that spawned
western civilisation. These geeky standards of tough and cool are a
product of a civilisation that does not value art and aesthetics and has
not ever since it turned its back on the Baroque because of Martin
Lucifer.

Seeing throngs of sub-men and muddy
>invaders which the proud, WHITE MEN who founded America would have
>disgustedly run out of the country without a second thought?
The founders of America never envisioned living in a huge nation that
was a world power either. They never envisioned that the country would
span from sea to stinking sea, either. Their successors got greedy and
grabbed land that should have remained in the hands of Mexico, Britain,
Spain, Canada, and Native Americans. An even later generation of
successors got scared by the flood of immigrants that came here for more
opportunity from places like Apulia and Dalmatia, so they shut the door
and thus created more opportunity for the " others ", thinking that
because they were not white they represented less of a threat. America
would have been a better place if their asses had been kicked.

>Or turning on MTV and seeing disgusting and revolting scenes of a
>White woman jerking back and forth to a grotesque multi-sequenced
>ghetto mantra repeating with brain-numbing redundancy while some
>arm-waving Negro moron wearing sunglasses, an ostentatious array of
>tawdry gold chains, and an NFL Oakland raider hat heaps hyperbolic
>self-praise and obscure inner-city accolades on himself amid a crowd
>of gyrating Negro women? Or seeing a TV documentary titled "RACISM:
>America's Greatest Danger", when the last time you checked the sort of
>people you instinctively know are your greatest danger -- for which
>you have both a car and house alarm -- were at no time referenced to
>on the show?
America is its own greatest danger. This is the fault of WASPs. ( see
above )

>Are you sick of turning on your television and watching perpetual
>scenes full of multiracial propaganda -- Negroes in business suits,
>commercials for security alarms showing WHITE robbers, anti-White
>story lines in the television shows, the persecuted Negro sherriff and
>the evil White local villain -- scenes you know instinctively are
>nothing more than racial reality INVERTED?
You guys are free to make your own films.I'm sure you could even get
some hasbeen name who needs money to stay drunk or high to be in it, so
you'd have name value. I guess you wouldn't do this because this would
be a positive act, as you'd be providing employment.

Have you ever wondered
>why these same unreal, unlikely scenes are repeated in nearly all
>shows and movies alike?
Is it true that Wesley Snipes is playing Earl Turner in the film version
of THE TURNER DIARIES, with Courtney Love as his woman ?
Have you thought that perhaps it WASN'T an
>accident?
See above.

>Are you sick of seeing your friends having to move away to "better
>places" in the U.S. -- places with lower crime (i.e., places that are
>more WHITE)?
Or better places outside the US. The US is a multiracial country for
better or worse - if you don't like it leave. many of my friends have (
for other reasons ) and I likewise will be leaving the New World in
1999, hopefully forever.
Or hearing mainstream Churches preach "JESUS hates
>racism!", that our main worry should not be the future of man or the
>destruction of our world but achieving immortality in the after-world
>-- and a host of superstitious, fatuous, dysgenic, destructive, and
>racially-suicidal tenets besides?
What else is new ?You guys made the choice to move away from the true
church during the reformation. Not that I'm an active Catholic myself -
I'm an agnostic. But protestantism is synonomous with anti-life,
anti-culture thought.
>Are you sick of paying higher and higher taxes to the U.S. government
>knowing it will go directly to a bottomless welfare system that
>disproportionately consists of fast-breeding non-White criminals,
>foreigners, and parasites?
US taxes are not high by world standards. There's always Gibraltar or
Monaco - both of which BTW have smaller nonwhite populations, Monaco I
don't think has any.

Of watching waves of smelly, ugly, dark,
>and strange non-White immigrants -- both legal and illegal alike --
>flood into the country, turning it into a babbliing, chaotic, poor,
>over-crowded and alienated one with no purpose or meaning beyond the
>media-sanctioned ones of sex, food, materialism, football, and
>escapist entertainment?
Materialism is the creation of you nordics, as is American football -
the stupidest sport in the world. You people deserve an OJ to fuck your
women, who of course love it as you're all such ugly unaesthetic
bastards. The real high quality of life is found in the Mediterranean
countries, not in the US.
>
>Or reading your children's textbooks and finding them FULL of
>egalitarian/leftist/homo agitprop and ludicrous Afro-centric fantasy?
>Or having to deal with incomptent minorities hired only for their skin
>color -- lazy, indolent, and nasty?
This transcends race, but again you have to question the worth of a
people who will willingly forfeit their own advantages by means of
Nixon's affirmative action.

Of being put on hold by some
>"African-American" clock-watcher who can barely communicate on the
>phone or even understand the simple problem you are trying to convey,
>even after you've already repeated it twice in the most
>intellectually-reduced language you can possibly muster?
See above.

>WE, the men and women of the NATIONAL ALLIANCE, are working to build a
>future for our children, free of lethal effect of Jewish control.
Which would be at least as fucked up, if not more so. I have proven that
the white race's betrayal was accomplished by nordics, not Jews. If you
are willing to limit the participation of pure nordics, than you have a
chance.
>JOIN US, in this great movement to create a better world for ourselves
>and the next generation.
Quiero cagar en la madre de todos los putos que creen en las pendejadas
del doctor William Pierce el mayor hijo de puta en el mundo. Jode al
pedofilia neonazi. Este buey no aprecia nada de cultura y vale solo su
dinero.Sus noveluchas estan basura de la peor calidad. Toda mierda.
Don't give this half-assed closet homo Dr. Pierce any of your hard
earned money to waste on his latest little boy lovers.Hey, if national
socialism is so great, than how come Mexico, which is the world's oldest
and longest lasting national socialist government under the PRI, is in
such bad shape ? Dr. Pierce and his clowns would be lucky to do even as
good a job as the PRI. National socialism is a proven failure, and these
pseudo aryan clowns don't know their cock from the black rectum they
can't get it out of. Nordics have fucked up the world, they are the
enemy of the white race, and don't give these fools any of your money.
Go get laid instead. No da ni un centimo a la Alianza Nacional ( no
estoy hablando de Gianfranco Fini sino el puto Pierce ). En lugar de ese
mierda nacionalsocialista, va al puteo. Yo prefiero ir al puteo mas que
la mierda de Pierce. Pierce,!Vete a la chingada!
- Sigismundo Malatesta, u signorinu
" California is an Italy without culture " - Oscar Wilde
" The entire life of a human being is a struggle amd every human being
symbolically a combatant " - Carl Schmitt


Elizabeth Bartley

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In article <5p9f2o$g...@nntp02.primenet.com>,
Sigismundo Malatesta <malt...@primenet.com> wrote:

[drive-by shootings]

>This is a result of having super-permissive gun laws. You don't find
>this shit in Europe, even in Britain which in the cities is almost as
>heavily minority as the US.

You didn't find that sort of behavior in Britain before World War I,
when it had gun laws more permissive that the United State's are
today. Nor do you find that sort of behavior in Switzerland, where
most men are required to possess a gun and (in most cantons) other
guns are relatively freely available. You DO find that sort of
violence in Washington D.C. and New York City, both of which have
strigent gun laws.

The problem with violence is violent people.

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Hey Brian,

Why are you secretly repressing your Jewish ancestory? It's more than
obvious you are Jewish... Just look at the way you condemn them for
being just like YOU!

redrum

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In article <33bb3623...@news.pacbell.net>, ^daren88^@pacbell.net

(Daren - remove ^ to email) wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:33:43 GMT, ga...@dialnet.nett (Ford) wrote:
>
> >What I am tired of is posts like yours that do provide one ounce of
> >evidence to support your off the wall believes and waking up to the
> >religious right attempting to foist their views and believes on
> >others. I'll practice, (or not practice) any religion of my choice
> >and don't need the southern baptists and religious right telling me
> >that their brand of religion is the only "correct" religion in the
> >known universe.
> >
> >Ford
> >Why isn't there mouse-flavored cat food?
>
> Do you object as loudly to paying extra money for "kosher foods?"
> Check your cabinets, all the food with a K or a U on it has been
> marked up in price in order to compensate for the company paying a
> Rabbi to "bless the food."

Not true. The prices at the local kosher market are comparable to the
prices at a nonkosher market of the same size near my home-I checked. The
costs of making and keeping most nonmeat food kosher is infinitesimal
compared to the total cost of manufacture.

-redrum
no mail please

redrum

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In article <33bc5299...@news.hollinet.com>, natio...@juno.com
(Michael) wrote:

> Your little supermarket is not the center of the universe.

And you are? Or maybe your imaginary Jewish Occupational Government is.
The Jews I know in my real world act nothing like the Jews in your fantasy
world. For example, Bob has always welcomed me shopping at his kosher
market.

Michael

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>-redrum
>no mail please


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On Tue, 01 Jul 1997 18:56:32 GMT, natio...@juno.com (Michael)
wrote:

>On Tue, 01 Jul 1997 01:47:39 -0800, nob...@nowhere.none (redrum)
>wrote:

>>> Do you object as loudly to paying extra money for "kosher foods?"


>>> Check your cabinets, all the food with a K or a U on it has been
>>> marked up in price in order to compensate for the company paying a
>>> Rabbi to "bless the food."
>
>>Not true. The prices at the local kosher market are comparable to the
>>prices at a nonkosher market of the same size near my home-I checked. The
>>costs of making and keeping most nonmeat food kosher is infinitesimal
>>compared to the total cost of manufacture.
>
>>-redrum
>>no mail please
>
>Your little supermarket is not the center of the universe.
>

He provides a data point, you provide ... what, precisely?

Daren - remove ^ to email

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On Tue, 01 Jul 1997 20:58:17 GMT, A.nonpartis...@home.com
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Unfortunately my server hasn't received "redrum's" reply to my post,
so I will respond to him from here.

Comparing the prices of kosher and non-kosher meats does little to
answer my questions (the second half of which "redrum" snipped).

Which is not true "redrum," that the prices are not marked up, or that
rabbis don't charge to "bless" all the products with K's and U's in
your kitchen cupboards? The "cost" may be small yes, but not when
comparing all the products and all the years this has been going on.

Still waiting for your reply ga...@dialnet.net (to my original post
please).

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On Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:33:43 GMT, ga...@dialnet.nett (Ford) wrote:

>What I am tired of is posts like yours that do provide one ounce of
>evidence to support your off the wall believes and waking up to the
>religious right attempting to foist their views and believes on
>others. I'll practice, (or not practice) any religion of my choice
>and don't need the southern baptists and religious right telling me
>that their brand of religion is the only "correct" religion in the
>known universe.
>
>Ford
>Why isn't there mouse-flavored cat food?

Do you object as loudly to paying extra money for "kosher foods?"


Check your cabinets, all the food with a K or a U on it has been
marked up in price in order to compensate for the company paying a
Rabbi to "bless the food."

If that doesn't bother you, how would you feel if the religious right

The Shogun

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A.nonpartis...@home.com wrote in article
<33bb6f2...@news.tudelft.nl>...
<snip>

> He provides a data point, you provide ... what, precisely?
>

A 'data point'??? A wild rumor, completely UNSUBSTANTIATED, is 'data'???
Hells bells, he doesn't even state WHERE on the food item the 'magic' U or
K appears. By this description I might even suppose that Kleenex (it
starts with a K!!!) has been rabbi-approved.

Next I suppose the Ku Klux Klan is kosher (it starts with a K!!!).

John Morris

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In <5p7gnr$7ns$1...@news01a.micron.net>, on Mon, 30 Jun 1997 05:58:27

GMT, sbr...@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>John....@UAlberta.CA (John Morris) wrote:
>
>>No matter how pathetic your life is, blame the Jews. Never again will
>>you have to take responsibility for anything that has gone wrong in
>>your life: the Jews are to blame for everything!

>Aw, come on, John. Jews never take responsibility for their wrongs.
>Yet they chronically whine, blame others, and extort money for
>"holocaust" distortions, smears, and lies . They're the biggest
>hypocrites who ever walked.

Aw, come on, Brian. You're a Jew-obsessed hater with one answer to
every problem. And I have never seen such a bunch of snivellers as you
and your pals from the Nazional Alliance.

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John Morris

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Chuck Ferree

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Most of us do not live in a Jewish Society. The United States is a
deversified Society. Anyone who has the warped perception that there is
a Jewish Society outside of Israel, is just another run of the mill
bigot.

Chuck Ferree

Charles Don Hall

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In article <33c879c9...@news.pacbell.net>,

Daren - remove ^ to email <^daren88^@pacbell.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 01 Jul 1997 20:58:17 GMT, A.nonpartis...@home.com
>wrote:
>
>>>>> Do you object as loudly to paying extra money for "kosher foods?"
>>>>> Check your cabinets, all the food with a K or a U on it has been
>>>>> marked up in price in order to compensate for the company paying a
>>>>> Rabbi to "bless the food."
>>>
>>>>Not true. The prices at the local kosher market are comparable to the
>>>>prices at a nonkosher market of the same size near my home-I checked. The
>>>>costs of making and keeping most nonmeat food kosher is infinitesimal
>>>>compared to the total cost of manufacture.
>>>
>>>>-redrum
>>>>no mail please
>>>
>>>Your little supermarket is not the center of the universe.
>>>
>>
>>He provides a data point, you provide ... what, precisely?
>
>Unfortunately my server hasn't received "redrum's" reply to my post,
>so I will respond to him from here.
>
>Comparing the prices of kosher and non-kosher meats does little to
>answer my questions (the second half of which "redrum" snipped).
>
>Which is not true "redrum," that the prices are not marked up, or that
>rabbis don't charge to "bless" all the products with K's and U's in
>your kitchen cupboards? The "cost" may be small yes, but not when
>comparing all the products and all the years this has been going on.

Both of these are untrue.

It isn't always necessary to increase the price of products in
order to get a kosher declaration. By making kosher products, a
company can often increase its market share, thereby making more
money without having to raise prices.

(Obviously, if they *did* have to raise prices, then most
consumers would buy a cheaper, non-kosher competing brand.
This is what we see happening with products where kosher
certification costs a significant amount of money: Consider
hot dogs, for example: Kosher brands like Hebrew National
are niche products; the best sellers are the non-kosher brands
like Oscar Mayer and Armour.)

There are parallels in the secular world, too. Consider the
"Underwriter's Laboratory" sticker you see on electrical
products, or the "Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval".
Companies pay for these labels...not because they want to
waste money, but because they know that these labels attract
customers, and that the profits from increased sales will
outweigh the relatively minor cost of certification.


The other untrue statement that you made is that kosher
products need to be "blessed" by a rabbi. Kosher certification
isn't a religious ritual, it's just a statement about what
ingredients are used. Often, it's only necessary for the
rabbi to take a quick tour of the factory once or twice
a year.

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If you have any more questions about kosher certification, don't
hesitate to ask. After all, it's the only way you'll ever
learn anything!

[Gosh, look at all the newsgroups! Followups to alt.politics.white-power,
I guess.]
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Jeremy

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In article <5p64qn$sgt$1...@news01a.micron.net>, sbr...@micron.net (Brian
Smith) wrote:

> Are you tired of waking up to life in the Jewish society, and the
> racial "diversity" it has created?

[stuff deleted]

Brian Smith, I thought about replying to your post, but then I realized
all I want to say is Fuck You.

Goerz

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Brian Smith wrote:
>
> Are you tired of waking up to life in the Jewish society, and the
> racial "diversity" it has created? Are you tired of waking up every

> day to news about the latest drive-by shooting that happened last
> night? Or about some bizarre and gruesome killing which bespeaks the
> fact that our society is literally going insane? Or reading some

> headline -- which assaults your senses even before you can inject the
> first cup of caffeine into your system -- which bewails the latest
> concern of Israel or "Holocaust Remembrance" for which the U.S.
> taxpayer will be made to pay?
[blah blah blah]

If you're so tired of life, why don't you do a favor to your country and
kill yourself?
>
> Brian Smith
> http://www.natall.com

Michael

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On Wed, 02 Jul 1997 07:14:39 GMT, John....@UAlberta.CA (John
Morris) wrote:

In <5p7gnr$7ns$1...@news01a.micron.net>, on Mon, 30 Jun 1997 05:58:27
GMT, sbr...@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

John....@UAlberta.CA (John Morris) wrote:

>>>No matter how pathetic your life is, blame the Jews. Never again will
>>>you have to take responsibility for anything that has gone wrong in
>>>your life: the Jews are to blame for everything!

>>Aw, come on, John. Jews never take responsibility for their wrongs.
>>Yet they chronically whine, blame others, and extort money for
>>"holocaust" distortions, smears, and lies . They're the biggest
>>hypocrites who ever walked.

>Aw, come on, Brian. You're a Jew-obsessed hater with one answer to
>every problem. And I have never seen such a bunch of snivellers as you
>and your pals from the Nazional Alliance.

It's 10 o' Clock. Does mommy know where the Sanctimonious Hypocrite
John Morris is? Whatcha doin' Johnny? Lookin' at dirty pictures is a
nasty no no from mommy.

Did Brian say 'hypocrite'? He's got you pegged you lil Jack.

>[snipped .sig longer than some posts]

But, infinitely more informative than anything junior has ever posted.


> John Morris
Pampers Baby of the Year.
Mommy is their biggest customer with popping Johnny.

Doc Tavish

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Tavish replies:
There has to be "Jewish Societies" outside of Israel for Jew Charles
Schumer to say this: "Whereas since this time Jerusalem has been the
spiritual, cultural, and historic focal point of Jewish devotion;
Whereas during this anniversary world jewry will celebrate, commemorate,
and sponsor educational activities about the holy city in Jerusalem..."

Notice he said "world jewry" not "Israel jewry!" Jew Chuck Schumer is an
anti-Christ and a true bigot. The vermin should be deported! Remember
this Chuck, it's "Israel First" to your Jews!

>
> Chuck Ferree

Full text:

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104th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. CON. RES. 36
Concerning the 3000th anniversary of King David's
establishment of Jerusalem as the capital of the
Jewish kingdom.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
March 9, 1995
Mr. Schumer submitted the following concurrent resolution;
which was referred to the Committee on International Relations
CONCURRENT RESOLUTION
Concerning the 3000th anniversary of King David's
establishment of Jerusalem as the capital of the Jewish kingdom.
Whereas 1996 is the trimillennial anniversary of King David's
conquest of the city of Jerusalem and establishment of the
city as the capital of the Jewish kingdom;
Whereas since this time Jerusalem has been the spiritual,
cultural, and historic focal point of Jewish devotion;
Whereas during this anniversary world jewry will celebrate,
commemorate, and sponsor educational activities about the holy
city in Jerusalem;
Whereas Jerusalem has been the capital of the State of Israel
since Israel's independence was declared in 1948;
Whereas from 1948 to 1967 Jerusalem was a divided city and
Israeli citizens of all faiths as well as Jewish citizens of
all states were denied access to holy sites in their historical
and religious capital;
Whereas in 1967 Jerusalem was reunited during the conflict
known as the Six Day War;
Whereas in 1990 the United States Senate and House of
Representatives overwhelmingly adopted Senate Concurrent
Resolution 106 and House Concurrent Resolution 290 declaring
that Jerusalem, the capital of Israel, `must remain an undivided
city';
Whereas in 1996 the Jerusalem 3000 celebrations begin as
negotiations on the future status of Jerusalem, as called for
in the Declaration of Principles signed by the Palestinians and
Israelis on September 13, 1993, also begin; and
Whereas Jerusalem is and will remain the eternal capital of
the State of Israel: Now, therefore, be it Resolved by the
House of Representatives (the Senate concurring),
That the Congress--
(1) congratulates the residents of Jerusalem and the people
of Israel on the 3000th anniversary of King David's conquest
of Jerusalem and its subsequent establishment as the capital of
the Jewish kingdom;
(2) strongly believes that Jerusalem must remain an undivided
city and the eternal capital of the State of Israel; and
(3) calls upon the President and the Secretary of State to
issue an unequivocal statement in support of paragraphs (1)
and (2).

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Michael P. Stein

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In article <5p64qn$sgt$1...@news01a.micron.net>,

Brian Smith <sbr...@micron.net> wrote:
>Are you tired of waking up to life in the Jewish society,

Brian, you think _you're_ tired of waking up to life in the Jewish
society? I just spent two years as president of a synagogue. Oy! Until
you've tried that, boychick, you don't know from tired!
--
Mike Stein The above represents the Absolute Truth.
POB 10420 Therefore it cannot possibly be the official
Arlington, VA 22210 position of my employer.

Brian Smith

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John....@UAlberta.CA (John Morris) wrote:

>GMT, sbr...@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>John....@UAlberta.CA (John Morris) wrote:

>>>No matter how pathetic your life is, blame the Jews. Never again will
>>>you have to take responsibility for anything that has gone wrong in
>>>your life: the Jews are to blame for everything!

>>Aw, come on, John. Jews never take responsibility for their wrongs.
>>Yet they chronically whine, blame others, and extort money for
>>"holocaust" distortions, smears, and lies . They're the biggest
>>hypocrites who ever walked.

>Aw, come on, Brian. You're a Jew-obsessed hater with one answer to
>every problem. And I have never seen such a bunch of snivellers as you
>and your pals from the Nazional Alliance.

Well, John, this only demonstrates further that you will defend,
apologize, and lie for Jews no matter how clear and incontrovertible
is the evidence. Jews control the media,

http://www.natall.com/WHORULES/WHORULES.HTML

the most powerful instrument for molding society, and more than any
other agent has transformed America from a healthy, low-crime,
advancing White society into a crime-filled, alienated, brown,
multiracial zoo. Yet you STILL want to claim Jews have nothing at all
to do with these trends. Well, that isn't suprising John, considering
that you are openly associated with "Nizkor" -- the net-affiiliate of
the Jewish ADL. And we all know what the ADL does -- "spy" on
"politically incorrect" people for Jews and Israel. That's why Nizkor
(Niz-WHORE -- the whore of the ADL) constantly archives the posts of
those who question the holohoax!

Here's some more information, on this organization which John Morris
(we call him "Santimorris" because he is such a odious hypocritical
prig!) peddles lies for!

URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"

"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':

The League continues to monitor hate on the Internet and to propose
educational curricula and policy development to regulate, in some way,
the transmission of hateful messages. The League is working closely
with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
incidents directly to the National Office."

[Article from the Los Angeles Times of 9th April, 1993, by Richard C.
Paddock:

"Dateline San Francisco: Police on Thursday served search warrants on
the Anti-Defamation League [ADL] here and in Los Angeles, seizing
evidence of a nationwide intelligence network accused of keeping files
on more than 950 political groups, newspapers, and labor unions and as
many as 12,000 people.]

"...Police allege that the organization maintains undercover
operatives to gather political intelligence in at least seven cities,
including Los Angeles and San Francisco.

"People who were subjects of the spy operation included former
Republican Representative Pete McCloskey, jailed political extremist
Lyndon LaRouche and Los Angeles Times correspondent
Scott Kraft, who is based in South Africa....

"...In addition to allegations of obtaining confidential information
from police, the Anti-Defamation League could face a total of 48
felony counts for not properly reporting the employment of its chief
West Coast spy, Roy Bullock, according to the affidavit filed to
justify the search warrant.

"The Anti-Defamation League disguised payments to Bullock for more
than 25 years by funnelling $550 a week to Beverly Hills attorney
Bruce I. Hochman, who then paid Bullock, according to the documents
released in San Francisco. Hochman, a former president of the Jewish
Federation Council of Greater Los Angeles and one of the state's
leading tax attorneys, will be out of the city until late next week
and could not be reached for comment, his office said.

"The court papers also added to the mystery of Tom Gerard, a former
CIA agent and San Francisco police officer accused of providing
confidential material from police files to the Anti-Defamation
League... ...Bullock said it was Gerard who sold official police
intelligence. Bullock said he split about $16,000... evenly with
Gerard, telling him at one point, "I may be gay, but I'm a straight
arrow."...

[end]

Archive THIS, Nizkook!

( )( )
\ | | /

MOONING the Nizkor Camera!

http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/ Greg Raven's Website
http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html Zundelsite
http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~lpauling/ Student Revisionist Resource Site
http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/LEUCHTER/leuchtertoc.html
http://www.codoh.com/irving/irving.html David Irving
http://www.codoh.com/ Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/ Arthur R. Butz
http://www.air-photo.com/ Air Photo Evidence (John Ball)
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html Adelaide Institute
http://www.codoh.com/rudolf/rudreport/rudreport.html

Brian Smith
http://www.natall.com

"A civilization which tolerates the existence of Kaplan and his filthy
business should be burned to the ground" I said. "We should make
a bonfire of the whole thing and then start over fresh."

_The Turner Diaries_. p. 85

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\|/ Towards a New Consciousness. \|/
| A New Future. |
A New People.
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John Morris

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In <5pi3ah$4na$1...@skin01.micron.net>, on Fri, 04 Jul 1997 06:13:41 GMT,
sbr...@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>John....@UAlberta.CA (John Morris) wrote:

>>GMT, sbr...@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>>John....@UAlberta.CA (John Morris) wrote:

>>>>No matter how pathetic your life is, blame the Jews. Never again will
>>>>you have to take responsibility for anything that has gone wrong in
>>>>your life: the Jews are to blame for everything!

>>>Aw, come on, John. Jews never take responsibility for their wrongs.
>>>Yet they chronically whine, blame others, and extort money for
>>>"holocaust" distortions, smears, and lies . They're the biggest
>>>hypocrites who ever walked.

>>Aw, come on, Brian. You're a Jew-obsessed hater with one answer to
>>every problem. And I have never seen such a bunch of snivellers as you
>>and your pals from the Nazional Alliance.

>Well, John, this only demonstrates further that you will defend,
>apologize, and lie for Jews no matter how clear and incontrovertible
>is the evidence. Jews control the media,

>http://www.natall.com/WHORULES/WHORULES.HTML

Well, Brian, this only demonstrates further that you will attack,
defame, and lie about Jews no matter how clear and introvertible the
evidence.

I am more than happy, by the way, for anyone on your spam list to read
your essay. What they will find when they get there is a load of
unsupported assertions, post hoc generalizations, and A List
of Jews.

Sorry, but your mealy-mouthed essay is only incontrovertible proof of
your Jew-obsessed hatreds.

Brian Smith

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nospam...@mindspring.com (Jeremy) wrote:

>Brian Smith, I thought about replying to your post, but then I realized
>all I want to say is Fuck You.

Truth hurts, don't it?

Dan Campbell

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Brian Smith wrote:
>
> Are you tired of waking up to life in the Jewish society, and the
> racial "diversity" it has created?
> much stuff snipped....

No.


>
> Are you tired of surreal, game-show host politicians who actively or
> passively are nothing more than toadies for the Jewish establishment,

> more snipped...

No.


>
> Are you tired of the watching the conditions around your city decline?

> and even more...

No.


>
> Or seeing a group of obnoxious mestizo gang members congregating in a

> mall...
> ad nauseum

No.


>
> Or turning on MTV and seeing disgusting and revolting scenes of a
> White woman jerking back and forth to a grotesque multi-sequenced

> ghetto mantra...

You've probably got the picture by now.

> Brian Smith
> http://www.natall.com

Ben M. Schorr

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nos...@bucket.bit wrote:

> On Fri, 04 Jul 1997 20:45:22 GMT, Brian Smith <sbr...@micron.net> wrote:
> >Truth hurts, don't it?
> Actually, it is you lily-livered, bow-legged aryan genetic defectives that
> are hurt by the truth. We see no problem in our domination of all aspects
> of your society. I rather enjoy being in a position to play even a small
> part in grinding the filthy aryan race into the dirt where it belongs.

The next question is why somebody like Bob Alpert would pretend to be a
non-aryan and would post such a troll. I doubt that it is fooling
anybody.

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Brian Smith wrote:
>
<snip>

> Truth hurts, don't it?
>
> Archive THIS, Nizkook!
>
> ( )( )
> \ | | /
>
> MOONING the Nizkor Camera!

This is the level of Brian's intellect.

He is tired of Life in the Jewish Society.
Ho could he be? He has never entered Jewish Society since no one there
ever invited him.
He is also tired of American Society since no one there, except the
neo-Nazi outcasts, invited him.
In fact no Society really wants a person like Brian. He is an endless
crab.
He spends his whole life disproving history.
What a waste.

U. N. Known

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Bob Alpert writes:
>Actually, it is you lily-livered, bow-legged aryan genetic defectives that
>are hurt by the truth.

Inbreeding, that's the real cause: brain-damage, no heart, other
distortions. They should have tried miscegenation instead, it
really does wonders. "Mongrels" are the more intelligent and the
aptest to survive. And the most lovable ones.

Michael Fingerhut

Moshe levi-cohen

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On Tue, 01 Jul 1997 01:47:39 -0800, nob...@nowhere.none (redrum)
wrote:

>In article <33bb3623...@news.pacbell.net>, ^daren88^@pacbell.net


>(Daren - remove ^ to email) wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:33:43 GMT, ga...@dialnet.nett (Ford) wrote:
>>
>> >What I am tired of is posts like yours that do provide one ounce of
>> >evidence to support your off the wall believes and waking up to the
>> >religious right attempting to foist their views and believes on
>> >others. I'll practice, (or not practice) any religion of my choice
>> >and don't need the southern baptists and religious right telling me
>> >that their brand of religion is the only "correct" religion in the
>> >known universe.
>> >
>> >Ford
>> >Why isn't there mouse-flavored cat food?
>>

>> Do you object as loudly to paying extra money for "kosher foods?"
>> Check your cabinets, all the food with a K or a U on it has been
>> marked up in price in order to compensate for the company paying a
>> Rabbi to "bless the food."
>
>Not true. The prices at the local kosher market are comparable to the
>prices at a nonkosher market of the same size near my home-I checked. The
>costs of making and keeping most nonmeat food kosher is infinitesimal
>compared to the total cost of manufacture.
>
>-redrum
>no mail please

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>And if I want to pay knowingly more for my Kosher food, because my forfathers and my religion tells me so, who is to tell me what to do ? Are these few pennies more paid for Kosher meat, not worth my good luck of belonging to the only, again-the only, true religion in the world ? I think many Goyim, and I know of more then one who will be glad to be reborn again into noble Judaism, the religion stolen from us by christianity and Islam. Give it back to us you guys, and see the empty void you'll fall into. Ask your priest or mullahs hard questions and see how he runs back into our scriptures, because that's all that humanity has. Our religion, our God, our Morals of the ten commandments etc. etc.

SO I'LL PAY THE EXTRA MONEY FOR THE KOSHER FOOD
WITH LOVE AND DEVOTION.

MOSHE LEVI-COHEN (pseudonim)

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Brian Smith

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"Ben M. Schorr" <b...@hawaiilawyer.com> wrote:

>nos...@bucket.bit wrote:

>>We see no problem in our domination of all aspects
>> of your society. I rather enjoy being in a position to play even a small
>> part in grinding the filthy aryan race into the dirt where it belongs.

>The next question is why somebody like Bob Alpert would pretend to be a
>non-aryan and would post such a troll. I doubt that it is fooling
>anybody.

Oh bullshit! Whenever any Jew drops the mask and openly spouts more
Jewish hatred, the Jew-apologists all wring their hands, deny it, and
pooh-pooh him as a "troll." Hell Bob isn't saying anything different
than that contained in the Jewish Talmud -- the Jewish "holy" (sic)
book -- or even in various parts of the Old Testament that maintain
that the Jews are "the Chosen people" destined to rule over us lowly
"goyim," and our job in life is to serve the Jews.

I for one believe Bob feels and means what he says and there isn't any
reason to believe otherwise, especially considering that his
admissions about Jewish power are completely true. It's also
reflected everywhere in the Jewish attitudes towards non-Jews,
especially in Israel towards the Palestinians. Well, here's some
more Jewish hatred, this time directly from the Jewish Talmud. Let's
see you tap dance around this too..! Dance, Jew-apologists, dance!

Non-Jews are Not Human Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human
("Only ye are designated men"). Also see Kerithoth 6b under the
sub-head, "Oil of Anointing" and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women
are designated animals ("she-asses").

Jews are Divine Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (Gentile) hits a
Jew, the Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting
God.

O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a
Gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

Jews Have Superior Legal Status Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an
Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an
ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be
in full."

Jews May Steal from Non-Jews Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an
object lost by a Gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned.
(Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).

Sanhedrin 76a . God will not spare a Jew who "marries his
daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a
lost article to a Cuthean..."

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew
murders a Gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a
Jew steals from a Gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. Gentiles are outside the protection of the law
and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Jews May Lie to Non-Jews Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies
("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

Non-Jewish Children Sub-Human Yebamoth 98a. All Gentile
children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b . Gentile girls are in a state of niddah
(filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

Abodah Zarah 67b . "The vessels of Gentiles, do they not impart
a worsened flavor to the food cooked in them?"

Insults Against Blessed Mary Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus mother
was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors
played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath
104b it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is
written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many
men.

Gloats over Christ Dying Young A passage from Sanhedrin 106
gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: "Hast thou heard how
old Balaam (Jesus) was?-He replied: It is not actually stated but
since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half
their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years
old."

Says Jesus was a Sorcerer Sanhedrin 43a . Says Jesus ("Yeshu"
and in footnote #6, Yeshu "the Nazarene") was executed because he
practiced sorcery.

Horrible Blasphemy of Our Lord Gittin 57a . Says Jesus ( see
footnote #4) is being boiled "hot excrement".

Sanhedrin 43a . Jesus deserved execution: "On the eve of the
Passover, Yeshu was hanged...Do you suppose that he was one for whom a
defense could be made? Was he not a Mesith (enticer)?"

Attacks Christians and their Books Rosh Hashanah 17a .
Christians ("minim") and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell
and be punished there for all generations (see footnote #11 for the
definition of minim).

Sanhedrin 90a . Those who read the New Testament (uncanonical
books, see footnote #9) will have no portion in the world to come.

Shabbath 116a (p. 569). Jews must destroy the books of the
Christians, i.e. the New Testament. See footnote #6.

Israel Shahak reports that the Zionists burned hundreds of New
Testament books in Occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish
History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).

Sick and Insane Teachings Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew
should take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix
it with honey and eat it.

Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in
a holy way is given.

Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all
the animals in the Garden of Eden.

Yebamoth 63a . Declares that agriculture is the lowest of
occupations.

Sanhedrin 55b . A Jew may marry a three year old girl
(specifically, three years "and a day" old).

Sanhedrin 54b . A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the
child is less than nine years old.

Kethuboth 11b . "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a
little girl it is nothing."

Yebamoth 59b . A woman who had intercourse with a beast is
eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is
also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world
that Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with.

Hagigah 27a . States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.

Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits
the rabbi won the debate.

Gittin 70a . The Rabbis taught: "On coming from a privy
(outdoor toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has
waited long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy
is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be
epileptic."

Toilet and excrement obsessions are laced throughout Talmud and
were exhibited in Spielberg*s Schindlers List where the Hollywood
director shows a Jewish child jumping through a toilet seat in an
outhouse and falling into a pool of liquefied excrement. There the
child meets two other Jewish children partially immersed who inform
the interloper that this cesspool is their hiding spot exclusively and
that he must find his own. These are the kind of disgusting and
morbid, psychotic images which Jewish kids are exposed to constantly
in the cinematic liturgy of Holocaustianity and for that matter, in
the Talmud as well.

Gittin 69b (p. 329). To heal the disease of pleurisy
("catarrh") a Jew should "take the excrement of a white dog and knead
it with balsam, but if he can possibly avoid it he should not eat the
dogs excrement as it loosens the limbs."

Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to
pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm
trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or
sitting at a crossroads.

Menahoth 43b-44a . A Jewish man is obligated to say the
following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a Gentile,
a woman or a slave.

Shabbath 86a-86b . Because Jews are holy they do not have sex
during the day unless the house can be made dark. A Jewish scholar can
have sex during the day if he uses his garment like a tent to make it
dark.

Tall Tales of a Roman Holocaust Here are two early "Holocaust"
tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b . Claims that four billion Jews were
killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16
million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by
the Romans. (Ancient demography indicates that there were not 16
million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16 million
Jewish children or four billion Jews).

A Revealing Admission Abodah Zarah 70a . The question was asked
of the rabbi whether some wine stolen in Pumbeditha might be used or
if it was defiled, due to the fact that the thieves might have been
Gentiles (a Gentile touching wine would make the wine unclean). The
rabbi says not to worry, that the wine is permissible for Jewish use
because the majority of the thieves in Pumbeditha, the place where the
wine was stolen, are Jews Pharisaic Rituals Erubin 21b (p. 150).
"Rabbi Akiba said to him, "Give me some water to wash my hands." "It
will not suffice for drinking," the other complained, "will it suffice
for washing your hands?" "What can I do? the former replied, "when for
neglecting the words of the Rabbis one deserves death? It is better
that I myself should die than that I transgress against the opinion of
my colleagues."[This is the ritual hand washing condemned by Jesus in
Matthew 15:1-9].

"Great Rabbi" Deceives A Woman Kallah 51a (Soncino Minor
Tractates). Teaches that God approves of rabbis who lie: "The elders
were once sitting in the gate when two young lads passed by; one
covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of him who
uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard. Rabbi
Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child conceived
during a womans menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both a
bastard and a son of a niddah. "They said, "What induced you to
contradict the opinion of your colleagues?" He replied, "I will prove
it concerning him." He went to the lads mother and found her sitting
in the market selling beans. "He said to her, "My daughter, if you
will answer the question I will put to you, I will bring you to the
world to come." (eternal life).

She said to him, "Swear it to me." Rabbi Akiba, "taking the oath with
his lips but annulling it in his heart," said to her, "What is the
status of your son?" She replied, "When I entered the bridal chamber I
was niddah (menstruating) and my husband kept away from me; but my
best man had intercourse with me and this son was born to me."
Consequently the child was both a bastard and the son of a niddah. It
was declared, "..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His Secret
to Rabbi Akiba..."

In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars the
preceding discussion is actually about Christ (the lad who "uncovered
his head"). The reference to the lad*s mother is of course to the
mother of Jesus, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the
hairdresser, in Talmud).

Genocide Advocated by Talmud Minor Tractates. Soferim 15, Rule
10. This is the saying of Rabbi Simon ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim
harog ("Even the best of the Gentiles should all be killed").

This passage is not from the Soncino edition but is from the
original Hebrew of the Babylonian Talmud as quoted by the 1907 Jewish
Encyclopedia, published by Funk and Wagnalls and compiled by Isidore
Singer, under the entry, "Gentile," (p. 617).

This original Talmud passage has been concealed in translation.
The Jewish Encyclopedia states that, "...in the various versions the
reading has been altered, The best among the Egyptians being generally
substituted." In the Soncino version: "the best of the heathens"
(Minor Tractates, Soferim 41a-b]. Israelis annually take part in a
national pilgrimage to the grave of Simon ben Yohai, to honor this
rabbi who advocated the extermination of non-Jews. ("Jewish Press" of
June 9, 1989, p. 56B).

On Purim, Feb. 25, 1994, Israeli army officer Baruch Goldstein,
an orthodox Jew from Brooklyn, massacred 40 Palestinian civilians,
including children, while they knelt in prayer in a mosque. Goldstein
was a disciple of the late Rabbi Kahane who has stated that his view
of Arabs as "dogs" is "from the Talmud." (Cf. CBS "60 Minutes",
"Kahane").

Univ. of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and
Goldsteins philosophy: "They believe it's God's will that they commit
violence against "goyim," a Hebrew term for non-Jews." (NY Daily News,
Feb. 26, 1994, p. 5).

Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg declared, "We have to recognize that
Jewish blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing." (NY
Times, June 6, 1989, p.5). Rabbi Yaacov Perrin says, "One million
Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." (NY Daily News, Feb. 28,
1994, p.6).

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>Exposing and rejecting the Jewish media at the family level is the
>critical step for White people to take if we are to take control of
>our destiny.
>

big question here is - what's "our destiny" ?

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>>Brian Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> Are you tired of waking up to life in the Jewish society, and the
>>> racial "diversity" it has created?
>>> much stuff snipped....

Yep.

>>> Are you tired of surreal, game-show host politicians who actively or
>>> passively are nothing more than toadies for the Jewish establishment,

Yep.



>>> Are you tired of the watching the conditions around your city decline?
>>> and even more...

Indeed.

>>> Or seeing a group of obnoxious mestizo gang members congregating in a
>>> mall...
>>> ad nauseum

That's the scene all over my state, North Carolina, now.

>>> Or turning on MTV and seeing disgusting and revolting scenes of a
>>> White woman jerking back and forth to a grotesque multi-sequenced
>>> ghetto mantra...

Sorry, Brian, I haven't seen that offensive crap in years. Can't watch
it. I know it's all Jewish. MTV is "Sumner Redstone's" baby (real
name: Murray Rothstein). Anybody who allows such sh*t into his home
should not complain once he understands some dynamics of Jewish media
control.

Exposing and rejecting the Jewish media at the family level is the
critical step for White people to take if we are to take control of
our destiny.

>>> Brian Smith
>>> http://www.natall.com
>\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

>Was this white woman, possibly a noble Aryan, lying under that black
>guy and producing a new bastard to fill the ghetto ? Heh, Heh, Heh

The two terms, "noble Aryan" and "white woman under black guy," are
mutually exclusive.

You may laugh now, friend, because you have been conditioned by your
masters to ridicule separation of the races -- something which we
practised for thousands of generations until we decided that growing
cotten was more important than keeping the sub-humans out of our
midst.

The problem you describe above, like every social problem, is soluble.
We simply make it illegal by, among other things, reimplementing
miscegenation laws which were in effect just 30 years ago all over the
U.S. The product of the union you describe above will not live in a
White society, and neither will its race-defiling mother. The baby is
colored and incapable of producing White babies. The mother will be
expelled with a permanent "Scarlet Letter" of some sort to identify
her as a race-defiler. I doubt such a woman could be salvaged through
re-education.

Where is your ridicule of the Uncle Toms over at the National
Association for Advancing Colored People (to the detriment of Whites,
BTW) now that they say that forced integration of the races in schools
has failed and it's all right to have separate schools for Blacks and
Whites again?

Will the NAACP say that forced race-mixing has failed altogether, not
just the bussing part? I think not, since they represent the interests
of all non-White "colored," ie., racially mixed, people by definition.


The NAACP was started 80 years ago by a bunch of Jews. Hmmmm...?

Join the National Alliance -- the group that unashamedly seeks the
advancement of European-Americans as a distinct people.

WWW <www.natvan.com>


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>...Where is your ridicule of the Uncle Toms over at the National


>Association for Advancing Colored People (to the detriment of Whites,
>BTW) now that they say that forced integration of the races in schools
>has failed and it's all right to have separate schools for Blacks and
>Whites again?

>Will the NAACP say that forced race-mixing has failed altogether, not
>just the bussing part? I think not, since they represent the interests
>of all non-White "colored," ie., racially mixed, people by definition.

>The NAACP was started 80 years ago by a bunch of Jews. Hmmmm...?

>Join the National Alliance -- the group that unashamedly seeks the
>advancement of European-Americans as a distinct people.

>WWW <www.natvan.com>

The following reinforces the above:
----begin:----
Actions Speak Louder Than Words: Our Society Often Uses Subterfuge
When Dealing With Racial Issues

by Ian McKinney & Kevin Alfred Strom

In April of this year the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ran a series of
articles dealing with race relations in the Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
area. Now this newspaper is known as left-leaning and liberal, so it
was no surprise that the articles were slanted in that direction.
One of the topics that the writers were most concerned about was the
lack of racial integration -- at least by their standards -- in
the Pittsburgh area public schools. They reported with all their
liberal concern that 80 of 102 area schools had a 90% or higher
White student body, which is totally unacceptable to them, and which
is one of the highest percentages in the country for a city of
comparable size and demographics.

On the same page they gave the results of a poll that was conducted by
the paper to gauge the public's opinion on the subject of
school integration. When asked, "Would you have any objection to
sending your children to a school where a few of the children
were Black?", 97% of Whites and 83% of Blacks answered "no." If the
school were one where half of the children were Black,
82% of Whites and 77% of Blacks answered that they would have no
objection. And finally when they asked, "Would you have
any objection to sending your children to a school where more than
half of the children were Black?", 45% of Whites and 67% of
Blacks also said "no."

There are two interesting facts here. One is that 33% of Black parents
surveyed apparently had objections to sending their childrento schools
that are over half Black. But we'll leave that aside. Look at the
White parents' responses. If 45% of White parents have no objection"
to sending their children to schools where Blacks are the majority,
why is it that Pittsburgh has such a high degree of racial separation
in the public schools? And why, as was also shown in the same series
of articles, has racial separation actually increased since 1970?

Certainly to anybody concerned about the survival of the White race
the poll results on the school integration question are very
troubling and tend to suggest that many Whites in the Pittsburgh area
have truly accepted multiracialism. However, when we
contrast those poll results with the reality of the Pittsburgh public
schools it is apparent that White people have learned one thing
above all others: Whenever you are asked a question in public on a
racial topic, always give the politically correct response. But
these same White people have shown what their real feelings are by
voting with their feet.

Despite all the hand-wringing editorials and liberal fuming,
Pittsburgh, like an ever-increasing number of other cities in America,
is attempting to extricate itself from the integration fiasco. In
recent months the school board has announced that school busing for
integration purposes will be ended, and a push is now underway for a
return to "neighborhood schools." And most significantly,
the effort is not only looked upon with favor by many Whites, but is
becoming more appealing to the Blacks, who have also had
enough of this social engineering. One exasperated Black educational
researcher summed it up recently: "[I]f this is the best that
integration can accomplish, I'd just as soon have our kids in
segregated schools."

No one -- except the most deranged White liberals, so high on their
own hallucinations that they believe them to be real -- should
be surprised that the whole effort at integrating White and Black
school children has been a complete disaster which has wasted
billions of dollars, lowered scholastic standards in nearly all the
schools, caused inevitable violence and racial conflict, and
resulted in no benefit to either race.

If you will remember, one of the principal excuses given for school
integration was that the ability and self-esteem of Black
students was being hindered by segregated schools. Well, even the
Post-Gazette had to admit that the scholastic record of Blacks
has not been improved by school integration. And at least some of the
integrationists knew that from the beginning.

Let us go back to that fateful year of 1954, when the U.S. Supreme
Court overturned the long-standing "separate but equal"
doctrine in a case known as Brown v. Board of Education. The Brown
ruling made school segregation illegal.

The NAACP's legal team, led by the part-Black Thurgood Marshall, who
later became a Supreme Court Justice, used fraudulent
evidence, lies, and chicanery to prevail in that landmark case. But
Marshall was primarily a figurehead for the whole effort: Much
more important were the prominent Jewish organizations working behind
the scenes.

The fraud utilized in that case was exposed seven years later by Dr.
Kelly, Professor of History at Wayne University, who was
employed as an expert on Constitutional history by the NAACP. During
an address before the Historical Association, he described the purpose
and tactics of the pro-integration team before the Supreme Court in
these words:

"It's not that we were formulating lies: there was nothing as
crude and naive as that. But we were using facts, emphasizing facts,
bearing down on facts, sliding-off facts, quietly ignoring facts, and
above all interpreting facts in a way to do what [Thurgood] Marshall
said we had to do -- 'get by those boys down there."

One of the very significant "facts" they were "sliding off" had
been derived from those now famous "experiments" with White and Black
dolls. Much has been made of the so-called experiment in which Black
children were asked to chose either a White or Black doll. Since Black
children showed a preference for the White dolls this "proved,"
according to the NAACP, that "segregating inflicts injuries upon the
Negro." The justices were, they said, moved by this bit of deception
and sophistry. But what was deliberately not revealed by Thurgood
Marshall and the NAACP's legal team at that time was that when they
performed the same test in integrated schools the Black preference for
White dolls was even more pronounced. This in fact demonstrated "using
their premise" that Blacks were "injured" to a greater degree by
integration.

Of course their premise was ridiculous, the Court knew it, and the
outcome had been fixed from the beginning by a power structure
beholden to our nation's enemies. This fraud, this lie, is just one
among thousands perpetrated in the name of multiracialism.

Given this fraudulent background, is it any wonder that school
integration has had such negative effects? From their actions and
admissions we now know that most of the integrationists really did not
believe that racial mixing in the schools would have any scholastic
benefit for Blacks, though I will concede that perhaps some naive
people may have been convinced of that. But what was the real goal of
school integration? Why did the Jewish organizations and mass media
push it so hard?

The answer to that can be found in the Post-Gazette series on
school integration. One of these articles, entitled "Look at Linton:
Racially Mixed School a Study in Successes, Problems," contains a
photo taken at a Linton Middle School dance which shows two couples,
one White and one Black. The liberal writers expressed their
consternation that at school dances, "the students separated into
small same-race groups." The sick trendies in today's media actually
became upset when they did not find Black boys dancing with White
girls or White boys dancing with Black girls. They also reacted
negatively when they found very little integration in the school
cafeteria: "One table is all White, another is all Black. White.
White. White. Black."

This natural tendency towards separation among the young people at
this "integrated" school is simply unacceptable! That's not what's
supposed to be happening! Don't these kids understand what we've been
teaching them in school, in church, and on Sesame Street for their
entire lives? Befuddled liberals and dedicated Jewish activists alike
are dismayed to find that healthy instinct often overrules
brainwashing when it comes to actual behavior. And that scares the
hell out of them. They could have seen it coming, though.

Even the most casual observer could have seen years ago that even
the most unbalanced of White liberals, slobbering about "brotherhood"
virtually every conscious moment, still move away from the Third World
plague they have engendered in our cities in exactly the same
direction and with exactly the same velocity as the "White racists"
they decry.

The fact that the majority of White teenagers still tend to
socialize mostly with other Whites is very good news. However, there
are still those unbalanced young people who are influenced by the
public school brainwashing on racial matters. Every White person who
succumbs to the liberal/alien propaganda and sacrifices his or her
genetic heritage by mating with non-Whites is a loss to us of
immeasurable proportions. We must take the position that even one
such tragedy is too many.

We must see our situation realistically: We are a tiny minority in
this world, and our lands are increasingly controlled and occupied by
our deadly enemies.

The fact that we are outnumbered is certainly a disadvantage, but
then White people have been outnumbered in many of our finest battles,
from the Crusades to the settling of North America. Just as a military
unit, all the way from a division down to the platoon, must work to
foster a team spirit and bolster confidence, we must do the same among
our own friends and within our own communities.

The poll results show that we Whites are often afraid to speak
what we know to be true, and an army of cowards cannot win any battle.
We must defeat our fears. We must be an example to others, who seeing
us, will conquer their own fears and join us.

Most White people have simply allowed themselves to be convinced
that the situation is hopeless. They rationalize that any attempt to
fight will only lead to failure and frustration, and that as one
isolated individual they can do nothing. But the fact that you are
looking at this web page should make you aware that you have friends,
an increasing number of friends all over this country and throughout
the Western world. Thousands of people, just like you, have finally
decided: I've had enough, and I will not take it anymore!

America's enemies try to smear our separatist cause with the libel
of violence or terrorism, but our enemies are the ones committing
violence. It is they who send our boys to die in their wars. It is
they who have bombed and burned and starved nations that would not
submit to their rule. It is they who pervert our courts into
instruments of injustice and our prisons into instruments of torture
and murder. The blood of little children sacrificed in the name of
"integration" is on their hands, not ours. Our enemies know that their
tall tales of violent, hate-filled White people are not true. They
know that the non-White terror they have brought to our shores
kills more people in one day than all the so-called "hate groups" have
been accused of for the last thirty years or more.

The real fear of America's enemies is that decent White folks will
wake up and realize that their neighbors and friends mostly agree with
them, and have just -- until now -- been afraid to speak. The real
fear of America's enemies is that we will find our courage. The real
fear of America's enemies is that once we have found our courage, we
will once again become the government. And then we will legally,
peacefully, and fairly try them for their crimes and mete out such
punishment as is required by law, including but not limited to
removing them from our society. That is their real fear.

Seven hundred years ago, when the Mongol hordes of Ghengis Khan
attempted to enslave Europe, there was a terrible war that lasted for
decades, but we won! Many years later, when the Islamic Semites
attempted the same, we turned them back even after they made deep
incursions into the heart of Europe which lasted for hundreds of
years. These desperate battles for the preservation of our race were
not won in one day, or one year. At times resistance must have seemed
truly hopeless. These enemies were driven back only through our
ancestors' patience, diligence, hard work, bravery, and above all, the
recognition that the desire of the enemy was to destroy us. Is it
really any different today? In order to win this battle we must call
upon those same qualities that sustained our ancestors. We must
understand that if we do nothing we are in effect slaying our own
children, that everything that we hold sacred and everything that
makes us what we are will be destroyed.

The internal contradictions and fallacies of our enemy's scheme
are becoming more obvious all the time. The failure of the multiracial
New World Order becomes more obvious with each new draconian "hate
law" they pass to stifle dissent. The climax of the age approaches!
The only question is: What will you do?

(The preceding is the text of an American Dissident Voices broadcast.
See http://www.natvan.com)


Will Williams

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>>Exposing and rejecting the Jewish media at the family level is the
>>critical step for White people to take if we are to take control of
>>our destiny.
>>

> big question here is - what's "our destiny" ?

It's a White thing, Chris. You wouldn't understand.


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though i can't see my face right now, i can assure you that
everything else, from my shoulders down, is a kind of pinkish white,
darker in places that see the sun most...

white people's destiny... ha.

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Will Williams wrote:
>
<snip>

More White Americans are earning more money and enjoying one of the
world's best economies. So are more African-Americans, more
Asian-Americans and more Mexican-Americans and more Jews and other
minorities.
Except for White racists who are not fareing so well in America. They
are more isolated from the mainstream of Americans and becoming more and
more isolated from reality.
They don't even know that this country has more Christians and more Jews
than any country in the world. And one of the highest standards of
living because of the great contributions o0f all the foreigners that
poured into this land over the past 200 years.

These White racists cry that the Jews have all the power. They don't.
You thought the “Jews got all the money” or so violently jealous folks
thought. Try this latest list of “Richest People on the Planet. Ranking
of
the world’s richest people as estimated by Forbes magazine, excluding
dictators and royalty who have no direct role in managing businesses.
The list appears in July 28 issue, compliments of the Atlanta
Constitution.

In Billions of U.S. dollars:

36.4 Billion 1. Bill Gates, U.S., Microsoft
27.6 “ 2. Walton family, U.S., Wal-Mart
23.2 “ 3. Warren Buffett, U.S., Stock Market
14.7” 4. Lee Shau Kee, Hong Kong, real estate
14.3” 5. Oeri,Hoffman and Sacher families, Switzerland,
Pharmaceuticals
14.1” 6. Paul Allen, U.S., Microsoft
12.3” 7. Haas family, U.S., Levi Strauss
12.3” 8. Kwok Brothers, Hong Kong, real estate
12.0” 9. Mars family, U.S., candy
11.7” 10. Quandt family, Germany, BMW

Had Bill Gates not been the great entrepreneur he became and suppose
“Moishe Finkelstein” headed Microsoft, every Jew-hater around the
globe would be screaming “the Jews have all the money”, “the Jews
control America” and continue their frenzy of making up lists of Jews by
wealth. It is just as insane as screaming “the Gate’s have all the
money”
and “the Gate’s control America”.
Should it make any difference, by race or religion, which individuals or
family groups is among the ten wealthiest people on the planet?

Herman

Will Williams

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(chris losinger) wrote:
>(Will Williams) wrote:
>>(chris losinger) wrote:
>> (Will Williams) wrote:
>>
>>>>Exposing and rejecting the Jewish media at the family level is the
>>>>critical step for White people to take if we are to take control of
>>>>our destiny.
>>>>
>>> big question here is - what's "our destiny" ?
>>
>>It's a White thing, Chris. You wouldn't understand.
>>
> though i can't see my face right now, i can assure you that
>everything else, from my shoulders down, is a kind of pinkish white,
>darker in places that see the sun most...

So, you think race is just a paint job, eh Chris? I'm a White racist.
You're an anti-White racist. That much is established. There are
plenty of anti-White racists with kind of pinkish white skin where the
sun doesn't shine. We try to reach those Whites who are at least
semi-racially conscious. You are not one of those, Pinky...Back to
your TV Guide!


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>whit...@mindspring.com (Will Williams) wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Exposing and rejecting the Jewish media at the family level is the
>>critical step for White people to take if we are to take control of
>>our destiny.
>>
>
> big question here is - what's "our destiny" ?
>

> paranoid narrow minded imbeciles uber alles?

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I would also suggest that blacks join with the whites in rejecting the
"kikes." Boycott "hymie," until he quits trying to takeover America.

Will Williams

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>I would also suggest that blacks join with the whites in rejecting the
>"kikes." Boycott "hymie," until he quits trying to takeover America.

Farrakhan and other Black nationalist leaders are way ahead of you
there, Mark. They know all about Jewish media control and use our "Who
Rules America?" to expose the Jew. Imagine that, Black and White
separatists working together to fight the forced race-mixing agenda of
Izzy. What is JOG going to do with all of us?


chris losinger

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whit...@mindspring.com (Will Williams) wrote:

>(chris losinger) wrote:
>>(Will Williams) wrote:

>>>(chris losinger) wrote:
>>> (Will Williams) wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Exposing and rejecting the Jewish media at the family level is the
>>>>>critical step for White people to take if we are to take control of
>>>>>our destiny.
>>>>>
>>>> big question here is - what's "our destiny" ?
>>>

>>>It's a White thing, Chris. You wouldn't understand.
>>>
>> though i can't see my face right now, i can assure you that
>>everything else, from my shoulders down, is a kind of pinkish white,
>>darker in places that see the sun most...
>
>So, you think race is just a paint job, eh Chris? I'm a White racist.
>You're an anti-White racist. That much is established.

still haven't answered my original question, which was :

what's "our destiny" ?

but, since you choose tangents, here we go...

you can't say i'm anti-white because i'm not anti-jew. that's
ridiculous, absurd, profoundly so. it's an illogical statement. it is
an illogical, emotionally-charged statement that racists like to make
(based on what i see written on the net). it is the type of statement
that sounds good until you actually stop to think about it - which is
why, i suppose, racists tend to _shout_ statements like this - hoping
to hide the illogic under emotional buzzwords and distraction.

it all falls apart when the audience has a chance to think about
what has been said.



>There are
>plenty of anti-White racists with kind of pinkish white skin where the
>sun doesn't shine. We try to reach those Whites who are at least
>semi-racially conscious. You are not one of those, Pinky...Back to
>your TV Guide!
>

TV guide? never read it. don't even use loud channel that tells me
what's on on the other channels.

so, what's the big white "destiny" you want to reach all of us
pinkys with? so far, the only point you've made is that you're
paranoid and obsessed with blaming the successes of others on your own
failures. this is not a good advertisment for your club, or the rest
of white race you say you represent - which you don't.

peace, brother.

-c


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Carved into the tree was the word "enclitical".

Michael Schne'der

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Recommended browsing: http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/index.html

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The United States government claims that Vince Foster inserted a .38 revolver
into his mouth and pulled the trigger. Yet their own photographs of the gun-in-
hand reveal both to be clean of saliva, blood, gore or other blowback material.
This is *physically impossible*; they know that, and they are LYING to us all.
The coroner, Dr. Beyer, claimed he had taken X-rays yet later told the Senate
he had not. Nor did he reveal that Foster had a bullet wound under the ear, as
paramedics reported. Beyer has twice prior ruled suicide in obvious homicides.
Four credentialed hand-writing experts have held the "suicide note" a forgery.
Foster was found up a dirt path, covered in carpet fibers, shoes clean of dirt.

alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater: come see what else they're lying about.
"Votescam: The Stealing of America"; aut: Collier; pub: Victoria House Press.

Philip Kasiecki

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In article <5rl97a$d...@camel4.mindspring.com>,
Will Williams (whit...@mindspring.com) wrote:

: je...@jerky.com (LETS HAVE IT) wrote:
: >>Brian Smith wrote:

Will Williams is a racist bigot, just like Brian Smith.
This post, like most of his others, is full of unsupported racist
assertions.

: >>> Or seeing a group of obnoxious mestizo gang members congregating in a
: >>> mall...
: >>> ad nauseum

: That's the scene all over my state, North Carolina, now.

Oh really? That's interesting, considering the fact that Latinos,
who consist of more than just Mexicans, make up only about 1.3% of North
Carolina's population (US Census Bureau).

: >Was this white woman, possibly a noble Aryan, lying under that black


: >guy and producing a new bastard to fill the ghetto ? Heh, Heh, Heh

: The two terms, "noble Aryan" and "white woman under black guy," are
: mutually exclusive.

I challenge Williams to give one good reason why people with
different skin colors should not date/marry/make love/etc.

: You may laugh now, friend, because you have been conditioned by your


: masters to ridicule separation of the races

The prattling racist now makes ASSumptions about someone he doesn't
even know. He doesn't even consider that the person might actually
believe that human ignorance should not win out, based on the person's
experience.

: The problem you describe above, like every social problem, is soluble.


: We simply make it illegal by, among other things, reimplementing
: miscegenation laws which were in effect just 30 years ago all over the
: U.S.

Give me one good reason to do this. Hey, don't you and your
National Alliance pals often complain about government involvement in
people's everyday lives? Seems such a measure would be on the
hypocritical side (which is nothing new for the NA and its members).

: The product of the union you describe above will not live in a White


: society, and neither will its race-defiling mother. The baby is
: colored and incapable of producing White babies.

Actually, the union will not necessarily lead to a child.

: The mother will be expelled with a permanent "Scarlet Letter" of some


: sort to identify her as a race-defiler. I doubt such a woman could be
: salvaged through re-education.

Translation: Williams doubts she can be brainwashed to hate those
who don't have white skin.

: Join the National Alliance -- the group that unashamedly seeks the


: advancement of European-Americans as a distinct people.

This is a bald-faced lie. The National Alliance is a White
supremacist group whose goal is oppressing people who don't have White
skin. It is an embarassment to humanity.

Phil Kasiecki

--
Philip T. Kasiecki
Electrical and Computer Engineering
Northeastern University Class of 1999

"Life is not important except in the impact it has on others' lives."
-Jackie Robinson

Philip Kasiecki

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In article <5rlc8d$h...@camel3.mindspring.com>,
Will Williams (whit...@mindspring.com) wrote:

: The following reinforces the above:


: ----begin:----
: Actions Speak Louder Than Words: Our Society Often Uses Subterfuge
: When Dealing With Racial Issues

: by Ian McKinney & Kevin Alfred Strom

: In April of this year the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ran a series of
: articles dealing with race relations in the Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
: area. Now this newspaper is known as left-leaning and liberal, so it
: was no surprise that the articles were slanted in that direction.
: One of the topics that the writers were most concerned about was the
: lack of racial integration -- at least by their standards -- in
: the Pittsburgh area public schools. They reported with all their
: liberal concern that 80 of 102 area schools had a 90% or higher
: White student body, which is totally unacceptable to them, and which
: is one of the highest percentages in the country for a city of
: comparable size and demographics.

This first paragraph says it all- to them, liberal = anti-racist-
when that's not at all true. Of course, by saying that, they then say
conservative = racist- a rather insulting statement.

: Certainly to anybody concerned about the survival of the White race

Translation: Certainly to anyone concerned about White supremacy...

: However, when we contrast those poll results with the reality of the


: Pittsburgh public schools it is apparent that White people have
: learned one thing above all others: Whenever you are asked a question
: in public on a racial topic, always give the politically correct
: response. But these same White people have shown what their real
: feelings are by voting with their feet.

Now they show more of their intellectual bankruptcy...

: Despite all the hand-wringing editorials and liberal fuming
^^^^^^^
There's the misuse again...

: No one -- except the most deranged White liberals, so high on their


: own hallucinations that they believe them to be real -- should
: be surprised that the whole effort at integrating White and Black
: school children has been a complete disaster which has wasted
: billions of dollars, lowered scholastic standards in nearly all the
: schools, caused inevitable violence and racial conflict, and
: resulted in no benefit to either race.

I'd like for them to prove the causation in those assertions. And,
their misuse of "liberal" is noted again.

: The fact that the majority of White teenagers still tend to


: socialize mostly with other Whites is very good news.

Of course, they can't give a reason why it would be bad if many
associated with non-Whites on any kind of a regular basis.

(rest snipped; it's ridiculous how they act like there's no gray area-
known as simply "desegregation"- in between separatism and integration;
but it's not shocking.)

Joseph Clark

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Will Williams wrote:

> The problem you describe above, like every social problem, is soluble.
> We simply make it illegal by, among other things, reimplementing
> miscegenation laws which were in effect just 30 years ago all over the

> U.S. The product of the union you describe above will not live in a


> White society, and neither will its race-defiling mother. The baby is

> colored and incapable of producing White babies. The mother will be


> expelled with a permanent "Scarlet Letter" of some sort to identify
> her as a race-defiler. I doubt such a woman could be salvaged through
> re-education.
>

Oh, isn't that clever. If we would just go ahead and throw out the
constitution it would make things nicer for you white supremacist types.
Well, hey, if it'll satisfy you nazional alliance people, what have we
got to lose, eh?

But seriously, if you want to have an all-nazi country, why don't you go
and found your own country on some large empty island somewhere? It
would probably be much easier than trying to take over the United
States. Of all places, why the USA? The people here are smarter and more
numerous than anywhere in the world. Your propaganda would probably be
100x more effective in some small undeveloped country.

just a thought,
-joe

Omri Schwarz

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Jul 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/30/97
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Will Williams wrote:
>

> Farrakhan and other Black nationalist leaders are way ahead of you
> there, Mark. They know all about Jewish media control and use our "Who
> Rules America?" to expose the Jew. Imagine that, Black and White
> separatists working together to fight the forced race-mixing agenda of
> Izzy. What is JOG going to do with all of us?

Taxidermy.

All five of you will end up in the Harvard Museum.

--
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Will Williams

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Bawb Alpert of the Stern gang wrote:
>Will Williams wrote:

>>The two terms, "noble Aryan" and "white woman under black guy," are
>>mutually exclusive.

>Actually, Willie old sod, the truth is that the term "noble aryan"
>is in and of itself an oxymoron. The lot of you are cowardly, timid,
>moronic fools. It is a pleasure to be personally involved in the
>destruction of your filthy, inferior race.

Sure, Jewboy. 'Noblesse oblige,' it's a White thing, not meant to be
understood by a beady-eyed, bowlegged little dwarf of a Yid.

Shalom


Omri Schwarz

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Will Williams wrote:
> Sure, Jewboy. 'Noblesse oblige,' it's a White thing, not meant to be
> understood by a beady-eyed, bowlegged little dwarf of a Yid.

Noblesse oblige a white thing?

Right. And I'm JFK's ghost.

> Shalom

Ve shalom aleikha, behema levana.

Michael Schne'der

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chris losinger

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whit...@mindspring.com (Will Williams) wrote:

>Bawb Alpert of the Stern gang wrote:

>>Will Williams wrote:

>Sure, Jewboy. 'Noblesse oblige,' it's a White thing, not meant to be
>understood by a beady-eyed, bowlegged little dwarf of a Yid.

hey, hateboy,

how's about you tell us what the great White Destiny is?

all this ranting and you still haven't told us what the hell
you're talking about.


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Roger Hughes

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In message <33DFC...@somtel.com> - Joseph Clark <jcl...@somtel.com>
writes:

:>Oh, isn't that clever. If we would just go ahead and throw out the


:>constitution it would make things nicer for you white supremacist types.
:>Well, hey, if it'll satisfy you nazional alliance people, what have we
:>got to lose, eh?

How's that? The Constitution and racial segregation existed together for
180 years. It was subversion of the Constitution that mandated
integration! Before the race-regulation laws were passed in the '50s,
people had the right of freedom of association without government
interference. Now you must associate with whomever the government tells
you - whether you want to or not.

Regards,
Roger Hughes
http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/

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Omri Schwarz

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Roger Hughes wrote:
>

> How's that? The Constitution and racial segregation existed together for
> 180 years. It was subversion of the Constitution that mandated

It also coexisted with the Alien and Sedition Acts for a while. So?


> integration! Before the race-regulation laws were passed in the '50s,
> people had the right of freedom of association without government
> interference. Now you must associate with whomever the government tells
> you - whether you want to or not.

Freedom of association? Don't make me laugh. Segregation in the South
was mandated. The Pentagon still has twice as many restrooms as it
needs beecause of the Virginia building code.

Christopher Christie

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grea...@mindspring.com wrote:

> Except for White racists who are not fareing so well in America.

>They are more isolated from the mainstream of Americans and becoming >more and more isolated from reality.Snip
> They don't even know that this country has more Christians and more >Jews than any country in the world. Snip


> These White racists cry that the Jews have all the power. They
>don't. You thought the “Jews got all the money” or so violently

>jealous folks thought. Try this latest list of “Richest People on the Planet. Snip snip


>Should it make any difference, by race or religion, which individuals >or family groups is among the ten wealthiest people on the planet?

Herman,
Not everyone who recognizes that Jews have far more power as a group in
this country than they would or should in a country where power is
shared in porportion to group size are racist and I think most of your
arguments about the ten richest people in the world are irrelevant.
I'm not a racist, I'm not violently jealous and I'm not anti-semitic,
but I think that considering that Jews make up less than 3% of the U.S.
population, that they exercise far more power that most people would
consider to be fair. People have pointd out the high percentage of Jews
in positions of power in the media and in politics. Both of my Senators
are Jewish and they both support Israel. But who wouldn't given the
campaign financing power of the Jewish lobby. Do you deny that these
thing are true? Do you think that this power doesn't express itself in
the public policy areas such as immigration and gun control, and in the
foreign policy areas such as the Israeli - Palestinian conflict? Most
Jewish people are pro immigration for a number of reasons, and most are
pro Israel. It is possible, I think certain, that neither of these
positions are in the best interests of the people of the U.S.
Immigration policies that promote enormous population growth and that
change the demographic face of whole communities are not in our best
interests. Bringing in large numbers of poor uneducated immigrants to
compete with Americas poor, white, brown, or black, is not in their best
interest, and they have every right to do what they can to stop it. But
that is difficult, because they have little power compared to their
numbers in the population.
President Clinton said he wanted administrations that looked like
America, but they have looked more like the inside of a Synagogue. Is
the head of the INS Jewish? Is the Secretary of State of Jewish
ancestry. Isn't the Treasury Secretary, Mr. Rubin, Jewish? Isn't the
head of the Agriculture Department, Mr. Glickman Jewish? Isn't the
President's security advisor Mr. Berger Jewish? Is not the Secretary of
Defense of Jewish ancestry? And on and on. It was the same in the last
administration. All these positions of power from a group that makes up
a very tiny percentage of the population, less than 3%. To give you a
better perspective on it, lets assume all these people were Muslims. My
understanding is that middle eastern Muslims make up about the same
percentage of the U.S. population as Jews. To my knowledge there are no
Muslims in the Cabinet or among the Presidents advisors, and few if any
have positions of power in Federal Government bureaucracies. This is as
one might expect because they are so few numerically. If they held as
many positions as Jews, I think even you would turn your head. So
instead of trying to dismiss these observations, perhaps you should face
up to the fact that Jews have far more power in America than is healthy
for the other interest groups that they exist with.
Chris

Fetus

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Will Williams wrote:

> Joseph Clark wrote:
> >Will Williams wrote:
>

> >> The problem you describe above, like every social problem, is

> soluble...


>
> >Oh, isn't that clever. If we would just go ahead and throw out the
> >constitution it would make things nicer for you white supremacist
> types.
>

> The Constitution no longer serves the group for which it was drawn.
>
> I'm not a supremacist. I want total separation.
>
>
> I live here, that's why. Who ever said anything about an "all-nazi
> country?"

You did. That's what "total separation" means, correct? To achieve total
separatio of the races, you'd need an all-white nation with zero
tolerance for non-white immigrants.To achieve such a goal, all the
whites (or at least a sizeable majority) would
have to agree with such plans. Most white
"supremacists/separatists/racialists"
identify themselves as Nazis, i.e., as the ideological descendants of
Hitler.
I believe that is the position of the National Alliance/National
Vanguard
and the NSWPP, although you guys don't seem to get along very well...

Fetus

>
>


Will Williams

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Joseph Clark wrote:
>Will Williams wrote:

>> The problem you describe above, like every social problem, is soluble...

>Oh, isn't that clever. If we would just go ahead and throw out the
>constitution it would make things nicer for you white supremacist types.

The Constitution no longer serves the group for which it was drawn.

I'm not a supremacist. I want total separation.

>Well, hey, if it'll satisfy you nazional alliance people, what have we
>got to lose, eh?

Right. Someone must be the adult around here and take responsibility
for White interests.

>But seriously, if you want to have an all-nazi country, why don't you go
>and found your own country on some large empty island somewhere? It
>would probably be much easier than trying to take over the United
>States. Of all places, why the USA?

I live here, that's why. Who ever said anything about an "all-nazi
country?" You watch the electronic Jew too much.

>The people here are smarter and more
>numerous than anywhere in the world.

Wrong on both counts.

>Your propaganda would probably be
>100x more effective in some small undeveloped country.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I like to think big.

>just a thought,

Rather childlike, but, yes, a thought.

>-joe

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Richard G. Phillips

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>
> You did. That's what "total separation" means, correct? To achieve total
> separatio of the races, you'd need an all-white nation with zero
> tolerance for non-white immigrants.To achieve such a goal, all the
> whites (or at least a sizeable majority) would
> have to agree with such plans. Most white
> "supremacists/separatists/racialists"
> identify themselves as Nazis, i.e., as the ideological descendants of
> Hitler.
> I believe that is the position of the National Alliance/National
> Vanguard
> and the NSWPP, although you guys don't seem to get along very well...
>
> Fetus
>
> >
> >
=============================================================
Phillips
I cannot of course presume to speak for nationalists, generally, but I
am prepared to say that most of us are not insisting on an ALL-white
America. OUr country is big enough to take a little diversity, but only
a little. You can liken it to putting pepper on your omelette. A
little sprinkle adds tang and zest; too much and you'll choke on it.
America is choking today.

NSWPP

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THE FUTURE CALLS! #1

Date: November 11th, 1996
Subject: Introduction to the NSWPP

Hello, this is Winston Smith, General Secretary of the National
Socialist White People's Party, and I'd like to welcome you to this,
the first edition of our new weekly Internet Audio presentation, The
Future Calls! Visit this web site every week for an updated commentary
on international news, racial events in America, and the true facts
about a wide range of topics of vital interest to Aryan people the
world over. We'll be talking about everything imaginable, from
Holocaust Revisionism to the economics of National Socialism, to the
disgusting crimes of Bill and Hillary Clinton. From now on, you'll want
to make the NSWPP a regular stop whenever you're surfing the web.

National Socialism is something very different from what you have
seen in the movies and on television and read about all your life in
slanted and distorted history books. For one thing, it's not just a
philosophy for Germans, but for all Aryan people the world over. What
is an Aryan? Very simply put, Aryan means what you and I would consider
a White person, a non-Jewish Caucasian of European descent.

Does an Aryan have to have blond hair and blue eyes? No. There
are many different strains within our people, the Nordic, the Celtic,
the Slavic, the Alpine and Baltic, the northern Mediterranean peoples
of Lombardy and Spain. Our ancestors really got around. For example,
did you know that the name of Russia comes from the Viking word Rus,
for the Swedes and Norwegians who settled there beginning in the tenth
century? Did you know that the name of Iran comes from Aryan, and that
although present day Iranians are a racially mongrelized people the
ancient Persians were blond haired and blue eyed, and that one of the
formal titles of the last Shah was Lord of the Aryans? Did you know
that Caucasian mummies some three thousand years old and more have been
found in the Tarim Basin of China?

The list of great accomplishments achieved by White men down
through the ages would fill many books. Every technological innovation
now used today was first invented by White men: the clock, the lens,
the compass and navigator's sextant, the steam engine and the internal
combustion engine, the balloon and the airplane and the rocket, even
gunpowder was invented separately by the English friar Roger Bacon only
a few centuries after the Chinese. Think of the incredible works of
great literature our people have produced, from the Greek tragedies and
epics of Homer and Aeschylus down through the powerful drama of
Shakespeare and the classic novelists and playwrights of the past
centuries too numerous to mention. The buildings and the bridges and
the cathedrals and the monuments we have erected, the mighty empires we
have built, the prosperity and the wealth we have created,
the voyages of discovery we have made to the very stars---ours is the
greatest race among all mankind. Make no mistake, the Aryan is the
noblest of God's creation.

Yet today we face almost certain extinction in another century if
we do not change our way of thinking, our way of living and our way of
dealing with life. How has this happened? In the coming weeks, we'll
tell you. Why has it happened? Who is responsible? And above all, what
can we do about it? All these things we will be talking about. But for
now I'll give you a simple hint: the answer lies in the life and work
of the greatest philosopher and statesman and man of action our noble
people has ever produced. His name was Adolf Hitler. You'll be
hearing a lot about him, too.

So be sure to visit this site every week from now on; in
addition to these audio commentaries of mine you'll find new literature
and new features almost every time you check in. For now I'll sign off,
but I hope you will soon make the decision to join us, and help us to
Free America!


"Freedom means the right to say that two plus two equals four.
Once this is achieved, all else follows." - George Orwell, 1984

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In <mike1-31079...@192-118.dynamic.visi.com>
mi...@nospam.visi.com (Michael Schne'der ) writes:
>
>
>
>Recommended browsing: http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/index.html
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------

--------
>The United States government claims that Vince Foster inserted a .38
revolver
>into his mouth and pulled the trigger. Yet their own photographs of
the gun-in-
>hand reveal both to be clean of saliva, blood, gore or other blowback
material.
>This is *physically impossible*; they know that, and they are LYING to
us all.
>The coroner, Dr. Beyer, claimed he had taken X-rays yet later told the
Senate
>he had not. Nor did he reveal that Foster had a bullet wound under the
ear, as
>paramedics reported. Beyer has twice prior ruled suicide in obvious
homicides.
>Four credentialed hand-writing experts have held the "suicide note" a
forgery.
>Foster was found up a dirt path, covered in carpet fibers, shoes clean
of dirt.
>
>alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater: come see what else they're
lying about.
>"Votescam: The Stealing of America"; aut: Collier; pub: Victoria House
Press.


For a complete series of articles regarding the Foster death, some
original, some reprints from mainstream media, contact
ns...@ix.netcom.com.

Michael Zarlenga

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: Are You Tired of Life in the Jewish Society?

No, just of your anti-Semitic hate posts, NSWPP.

--
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Grandpa: "I figured it's 'cause the Democrats are in power."


NSWPP

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WE'RE NUMBER TWO; WE TRY HARDER!

Several days ago a young guy e-mailed me with a question I've
gotten on more than one occasion and which I will probably hear a lot
more, so I am preparing this as a kind of "canned" answer. The gist of
it was, "I am looking for a way to get active. I am considering both
the NSWPP and the National Alliance. Why should I choose you? What
makes you better than the NA?"

Of course, it depends on what you're looking for in a White
racial nationalist organization and to some degree what your personal
racial ideology is, but it's a valid question. I am spurred to answer
this publicly, and assisted in my reply, by the fact that a former NA
member last week sent me an almost complete set of National Alliance
Bulletins going back to the beginning of 1979; I spent most of
yesterday reading through them and I think I am now in a position to
comment, based on THEIR OWN PUBLISHED MATERIAL.

So I will tell you what makes the National Socialist White
People's Party a better group to join than the National Alliance, at
least in my humble opinion:

**************************************

1. TOLERANCE. An odd virtue for a racist group, you might
think, but I am speaking of tolerance for individual initiative and
respect for the individual consciences of our members.

On the matter of religion, for example, the National Alliance
and its leadership are violently anti-Christian, although this aspect
of their outlook tends to come and go, being more visible at certain
times than at others. At one point, Dr. William L. Pierce actually
founded his own quasi-pagan, tree-hugging kind of naturistic religion,
something called the "Cosmotheist Church", of which his West Virginia
retreat was supposed to be the "world headquarters". It seems to have
been quietly deep-sixed about 1991 or so. I have had people tell me
that Pierce never believed in this and it was just a dodge to get a tax
exemption on his 300-acre estate, but you wouldn't know it from reading
his bulletins.

Let me make it clear that I am not criticizing Dr. Pierce on
theological grounds; he has the right to believe whatever he wants
religion-wise and he has the right to propagate those views. But one of
the most common complaints I hear is that people with an Identity or
other Christian orientation feel very uncomfortable with the NA's
persistent public attacks on Christianity *per se*, and they generally
do not stay long, although I am sure there are individual exceptions
to this.

The NSWPP, on the other hand, has in its ranks Aryan men and
women of all religious viewpoints. National Socialism has always
embraced two traditions, one which is generally referred to as
"positive Christianity" and one neo-pagan or Nordic Faith, wherein
Aryans feel spiritually compelled to return to the older, pre-Christian
faiths and myths and cosomologies of our people.

I look at it like this: our mission is TO SECURE THE EXISTENCE
OF OUR PEOPLE AND A FUTURE FOR WHITE CHILDREN, and we cannot do this by
stopping on Square One to engage in a religious war among ourselves. My
own religious views are about one third Identity, one third Odinism,
and onethird Zen Buddhism. I won't get into them any further; suffice
to say that they are a sufficiently eclectic mix so neither faction can
"claim" me, nor do I claim them. I am General Secretary for ALL
National Socialists. FAITH is a private matter. RACE is a political
one, and it is with RACE that we are concerned to the exclusion of all
secondary considerations.

In another area, tolerance for individual creativity and
initiative,for example, the NSWPP wins hands down. The National
Alliance is a highlycentralized organization; their local activists
have to get permission from the bureaucracy in Hillsboro to sneeze. In
a number of NA Bulletins, including several recent ones, Dr. Pierce
frigidly dresses down his local people for doing things like writing
their own leaflets or putting their own recorded Hotline messages on
the air; in the October 1996 Bulletin, for example, he suspended 25 out
of 40 of his organization's local telephone messages because NA unit
members were putting "unauthorized material", i.e. comments about local
issues on them. Or, in Pierce's words, because they "could not handle
[the phone messages] responsibly" and had "drifted into irregular modes
of operation, some of them using messages not supplied by the National
Office."

In the same article, Dr. Pierce makes a statement which, I
think, cuts to the very heart of the difference between the NA and the
NSWPP. "Our message services are NOT a form of free entertainment for
the public," he says. "Their ONLY function is to provide a very brief
introduction to the Alliance and give interested persons the
information needed to obtain a book catalog...."

In other words, the purpose of National Alliance members'
activity is to sell books. In the NSWPP, the purpose of all our
activity on every level, from mine on down is to secure the existence
of our people and a future for White children. Which kind of
organization would you prefer to work with?

The Party actively encourages creativity, initiative, and
independence of action on the part of our local activists, within the
very broad parameters laid out by the Party Manual. (I.e. no violent or
illegal activity, etc.) Our people write their own leaflets, organize
and conduct their own activities as they see fit in their own
localities, and although we only have two phone services at the moment
any Party person is free to establish one in his area if he is willing
to maintain it, and so long as he keeps his messages consistent with
the Party program and goals and doesn't say things that make us look
bad, use obscene language, etc.

I am always amused by people who claim that I am the only
active individual in the NSWPP. We couldn't survive without our local
people; I know I certainly couldn't keep going without the help of
hundreds of people, and I am not just referring to financial support. I
am just a writer. YOU are the Party.

We see here in Dr. Pierce a basic attitude which I have always
abhorred and fought against in the Movement: the arrogant delegation of
the local supporters to the level of peons whose purpose is to support
some huge national headquarters---or worse, the function of pure and
simple financial livestock, to be herded and sheared and milked and
eventually slaughtered and cast aside when they have been drained of
their last dime. But getting back to our list of reasons why we've got
the better mousetrap:

2. LESS OVERHEAD. The National Alliance headquarters is
situated on 300 acres of land in West Virginia and contains a number of
offices, bunkhouse type accommodation, the private home of Dr. Pierce
and his succession of wives (three by my count from his bulletins, two
of them mail-order brides from Eastern Europe), and a lot of farm
equipment including a $20,000 tractor purchased several years ago, a
new prefab barn, etc. It's quite a thriving little colony; at any given
time there seem to be six to twelve people living in the compound and
more living in Hillsboro, although turnover is very high, judging by
the Bulletins almost 100% every 18 months or so. (To be fair and
accurate, the old NSWPP and NSPA also had the same kind of turnover
problems, so this is not a problem unique to the National Alliance.)
I've seen pictures of the NA ashram, and it is a beautiful place where
the Great Man can stroll about his rolling acres thinking Great
Thoughts, surrounded like a country squire by his faithful
retainers, who possibly are required to doff their hats and tug their
forelocks whenever the Master approaches in his tweeds and his riding
boots, carrying his shooting stick, etc.

I, on the other hand, live down here in the real world in a
small crackerbox apartment in a more or less tenement surrounded by
Mexican illegales, monkoids, and the poorer kind of UNC graduate
student. About once a week there are gunshots from the convenience
store across the way as it is either robbed by blacks or else the
Mexicans get into a dispute in the parking lot with blacks. Up until
last month I worked casual manual labor jobs, sometimes alongside those
very Mexicans. Don't get me wrong, poverty is nothing to blow your horn
about---but who do you think is more qualified to observe, report, and
analyze the situation for White people in America, 1997?

People have accused me of being "jealous of Dr. Pierce's
success", and if they mean would I like to live on a 300-acre estate in
the Appalachians surrounded by books and music and sycophantic
employees, darn tootin' I would! No mystery at all there. Nor is it any
secret that the NSWPP will soon be establishing an open office or
headquarters of our own to give me and an eventual national
headquarters staff room to work and build the Party.

But our HQ will be DOWN HERE IN THE REAL WORLD, in one of the
most economically and politically active areas in the country, the
Research Triangle Park area. Our headquarters will exist in the world
where White people must work for a living and be daily jostled and
harassed and insulted by blacks and Third World scum, where they must
fear for their lives and where the government and the insane economy
keeps them on the borders of collapse and desperation. You know---the
REAL WORLD. When you go up in the mountains or the piney woods or the
back of the beyond and hide from the problems you lose touch, and a
leader cannot afford to lose touch.

When you send ten dollars to the NSWPP, yes---a small
percentage of it will go towards my personal upkeep, if you can call
living on rice and tuna and listening to nightly salsa concerts on boom
boxes from upstairs a lifestyle. Let's say two dollars out of that ten
might go to put gas in my car or top up my rent one month when I'm
short. The rest of it goes to printing, postage, envelopes for the
newsletter, other literature, online charges for the NSNet computer,
phone and Hotline bill, etc.

But with Pierce's kind of overhead, with that huge estate to
keep up and pay taxes on (they didn't buy his "Cosmotheist Church"
dodge), the state-of-the-art security system, all those vehicles and
tractors to run and maintain, the salaries of all those sycophants to
pay, and all those legal bills from the Klassen property debacle to
pay---what percentage of every sawbuck you send to Hillsboro do you
think goes into overhead? Five bucks? Six? Eight? Nine dollars and
fifty cents? I don't know, but I do know that running an establishment
like that costs a pretty penny.

When we get our headquarters we will also have more overhead to
pay, true. But it will be a working office down here in the real world,
and my own lifestyle (if you want to call it that) will not change. I'm
not in this for me, and although coming from myself I know that
statement is hardly objective, it's true. I am in it so someday a White
kid can go to Chapel Hill High School and get an education and become a
young man or a woman rather than spending three years in a congoid hell
that was literally a blackboard jungle like I did.

3. A WORKING MAN'S PARTY. The National Alliance is primarily a
publishing house and propaganda source, and I will happily concede that
the NA's published and broadcast material is the best in the Movement
(for now). It is the best, that is, of A CERTAIN TYPE. One thing that
everyone immediately notices about the NA is its highly intellectual
tone, and that's good---for intellectuals. Just one problem: the
majority of White people in this country are not intellectuals, they
are working stiffs.

Time and again in his bulletins down through the years, Pierce
proudly announces the acquisition of new National Office staff members
with all kinds of impressive academic and professional
qualifications---college professors, engineers, archaeologists, former
newspaper and media pros, doctors, you name it. Now, that's fine and
dandy. No criticism, more power to Pierce and the NA for attracting
that kind of person. You cannot make a revolution with nothing but
cannon fodder, good ole boys, and drunken Skinheads. There must be an
intelligent, educated and ideologically incisive cadre of intellectual
leadership to any revolutionary mobement. Agreed. No argument there at
all.

But virtually everybody I have ever spoken to who has been
involved with the NA confirms that there is a virtual class system in
operation within the organization. "You don't have at least two Ivy
League college degrees, as far as Pierce is concerned, you're a
peasant!" is the way one put it to me. Pierce just barely conceals his
contempt for blue collar workers, for White people with Italian or
Slavic names, and his patronizing disdain for Southerners or other
so-called "trailer trash". No one who belongs to any of these
categories has ever lasted for any length of time in the NA or achieved
any prominence in the group.

The NSWPP has some pretty high membership standards of our own,
to be sure. I regularly refuse OS applications from people who make it
pretty clear that they are eccentric or criminally inclined or
otherwise undesirable, and I have refused to renew Resistance
subscriptions to people who demonstrate undesirable attitudes or
traits. That has included turning down and returning donations and
dues; if you're a geek or a drunk or a lunatic you don't buy your way
into the NSWPP. This quality control is the main reason our mailing
list is so relatively small. But none of this "discrimination", if such
it may be called, has an ethnic or economic base. Living like I do, I'd
be the last to discriminate against White working people, believe me!

4. THE REAL McCOY. When all is said and done, the National
Alliance ideology is a kind of ersatz National Socialism. (This
includes references to the Fuhrer in the NA Bulletin as The Great One,
etc.) The rationale behind this approach by Pierce has been discussed
more fully in "Why We Use The Swastika" (available on request).

Why settle for a hot dog when you can have a T-bone steak? Why
settle for a copy of a great painting when you can own the original?
Why be a closet Nazi when you can be a National Socialist?

5. THE NSWPP IS LESS EXPENSIVE. This may be a petty point, but
with its huge mailing list and customer list, the NA's membership dues
are a minimum of $10.00 per month. The NSWPP no longer has any formal
membership status, but we rely on voluntary donations; the only thing
we charge for is $30.00 per year for our WEEKLY newsletter that comes
out ON TIME EVERY WEEK (although we did miss an issue in 1996 due to
Hurricane Fran.)

6. STAGNATION. As I have said, I spent yesterday reading an
almost complete collection of National Alliance Bulletins going back 18
years to early 1979. What immediately strikes the reader of such a
collection is the almost drab SAMENESS of every Bulletin. Other than
some minor improvements in the typography when Pierce got his desk top
publishing software in the late 1980s, they all look and read alike.
You can pick up an NA Bulletin from 1980 and another from 1991, cover
up the dates and the return addresses, and you would hardly be able to
tell the difference. There is a small kernel of active news around
which is wrapped six pages of Dr. Pierce's commentary and
verbiage---OK, some of that commentary is downright brilliant, let's
give the man his due, but it's still padding to conceal the
fact that basically what the NA is doing is supporting an academic
writer-philosopher financially and enabling him to live a comfortable
and cosseted lifestyle.

I went back this morning and looked over our own internal
members-only NS Bulletins. Okay, we only have two and a half years'
worth as opposed to the 27 years of the Alliance's existence so you
can't really make the same comparisons. But I always try to include at
least two pages out of the four of activity reports from our members,
even if only small leaflet distributions. All told I believe there is
more individual activity reported in our 30-odd months of NS Bulletins
than you will find it ten years of the NA Bulletin.

There is also a lot of something in our NS Bulletin which you
simply won't find in the NA equivalent, and that is that at least on
occasion, and in minor ways, WE STRIKE BACK. There is an aggressive and
in-your-face-Jewboy quality to some of the actions NSWPP people have
carried out, like throwing leaflets from the top of the Empire State
Building and attaching them to helium balloons and sending them
floating through the skies; those of you who are Party members will be
familiar with the California Raisin and his daring one-man guerrilla
psywar against the liberal establishment.

National Socialists have a certain vim and verve, a panache, an
elan, which you just don't find in closet types. We are happy warriors.
Reports of NA meetings and distributions seem almost stodgy by
comparison. Quite frankly, a lot of those NA Bulletins I read are just
plain DULL.

7. TIME FOR THE LITTLE GUY. A lot of comrades send me various
leaflets and computer stickers and other material they have written up,
most of it perfectly usable and welcome as an addition to our canon.
What strikes me about a lot of this stuff is the sheer enthusiasm and
love of race which goes into their work, especially the drawings and
art work from prisoners and from young kids. I've noticed that about
National Socialism, that it draws the very best from our people's inner
soul. I have heard from other people (and some of the same ones who
send me stuff) that when they send their work to the NA either it just
disappears without acknowledgement or else it comes back with a big red
rubber stamp or red ink scrawl across it, "NOT APPROVED".

I may not use a lot of the member-created material I get sent,
for any variety of reasons. But I read it all with respect, and there
is no "NOT APPROVED" stamp on my desk, nor will there ever be.

I may not agree with everything said and done in the name of
NS, and indeed the Party was re-formed largely in order to try and
bring some order to the chaos---but I understand that the Skinhead
screaming "White Power!" and waving his right arm in the air while
clutching a beer in his left hand is at least TRYING, instinctively, to
move toward the light. William Pierce sees only a drunken stumblebum.
He may be right, of course. A lot of Skinheads and blue collar rednecks
and prisoners ARE totally lost and totally useless to us. But with me a
man has to SHOW that he is lost. With me, there is always at least a
little benefit of the doubt, until I am shown otherwise. With Pierce
there is none; if you don't fit the mold then you are livestock to be
herded, sheared, and milked. Call the NA phone message and order your
book catalog.

8. SPIRITUAL STRENGTH. National Socialism imparts to our people a
kind of inner strength which is unsurpassed in the twentieth century.
What Marxism has been for the Jew, National Socialism is for us, the
defining philosophic and spiritual experience of modern times. That
strength comes only from the real article, the heroic figures of Adolf
Hitler and George Lincoln Rockwell, the sage of the Reich, and above
all from the holy Swastika, immortal and immemorial symbol of our
people. No Swastika substitute, no krinkeljammer, no Nordic rune symbol
assigned an arbitrary significance which it never had in history, can
replace the ideological and spiritual "hard stuff".

Some time ago I sent you all a copy of Commander Rockwell's IN
HOC SIGNO VINCES, which explains all this much better than I ever
could. Dr. William L. Pierce first joined the American Nazi Party in
1965, and for two years he was an aide and a colleague of Commander
Rockwell himself. For a variety of reasons, some of them understandable
and valid, others more obscure, Pierce left the National Socialist
White People's Party (old Mark I version) in 1970. Pierce has done well
for himself in the years since. Whether he has done well for the White
race has become open to debate, especially since 1992 when he took the
disastrous decision to become involved with....ah, well, we won't get
into all that again.

But what is incontestable is that Dr. Pierce has also left
behind the legacy of George Lincoln Rockwell, and all that he has
accomplished since then must be examined in the hypothetical light of
what he might have accomplished had he remained true to his salt.

During virtually the same time frame, on the other hand, I have
always tried to do whatever I could to restore Commander Rockwell's
legacy---haltingly, imperfectly, sporadically, in a career riddled with
false starts and mistakes which I freely admit. My multifarious enemies
among the Wicked Winston Chorus spew lies and slanders and tripe about
me; I'm always worried they will cop on and start talking about some of
the REAL bloopers I've made down through the years. (Like trusting
several of them.)

That's the best sum-up I can give. Warts and all, human
imperfections and all, I am at least STILL TRYING. As Pierce himself
admitted in the last civil letter I ever received from him in 1991, I
STILL BELIEVE. (Much to my own frequent amazement.)

Pierce has given up. He no longer believes, at least not in any
meaningful sense. He talks the talk out of force of habit and because
he is too old to earn a living any other way---nor, to be honest, would
the system ALLOW him to earn a living in any other way. I would like to
make it clear that despite all the vicious and unprincipled things he
has said and done to try and silence me, himself and through his
assorted sycophants like Strom and Metzger and Nix, I UNDERSTAND WHY.
It's nothing personal, just business. The man is 64 years old now and
that 300 acres and that mailing list is his lot in life, all he's got.
It is hardly surprising that he is fighting tooth and nail to keep it
together from the challenge he perceives, quite correctly, from the
revived Party he once served.

To the young comrade who e-mailed me this question, and to all
others wondering about it, I will say this: whatever you decide, no
action you take on behalf of your race is EVER wasted, no matter what
it is or who you do it for. I think you should join the Party because
we have the better mousetrap, but I ask only this: that you devote your
life from now on to your Folk. Do that, and you will eventually find
your way to the Party no matter what detours you may take in the
beginning.

-Winston Smith



"This destiny does not tire, nor can it be broken, and its mantle
of strength descends upon those in its service." - Francis Parker
Yockey, IMPERIUM

NSWPP

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For a complete series of articles regarding the Foster death, some
original, some reprints from mainstream media, contact

ns...@ix.netcom.com. The National Socialist White People's Party
has a very large file of interesting and informative e-mails on the
whole Clinton scandal scene, all free of charge, of course.

I apologize for all the noise on Usenet which sometimes makes it
confusing and difficult to get our point across. It's like trying
to conduct serious business in the monkey house at the zoo, with
screaming baboons one one side and diseased gibbons shitting on
your doorstep, but one has to play the hand one is dealt.

Winston Smith
www.nswpp.org
>


Christopher Curry

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On Tue, 29 Jul 1997 grea...@mindspring.com wrote:

> Will Williams wrote:
> >
> <snip>
>
> More White Americans are earning more money and enjoying one of the
> world's best economies. So are more African-Americans, more
> Asian-Americans and more Mexican-Americans and more Jews and other
> minorities.

> Except for White racists who are not fareing so well in America. They
> are more isolated from the mainstream of Americans and becoming more and
> more isolated from reality.

> They don't even know that this country has more Christians and more Jews


> than any country in the world. And one of the highest standards of
> living because of the great contributions o0f all the foreigners that
> poured into this land over the past 200 years.

Highest standards of living? According to a recent ranking the USA was number
18 on the list of best countries to live in. The standard of living is of
course an important factor in giving the ranking. Being number 18 is not
anything to speak loud about.

Cheers,

Christopher

(Living in Denmark, ranked number *ONE* in the above mentioned ranking).


Will Williams

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ns...@ix.netcom.com(Harold Covington) wrote:

>For a complete series of articles regarding the Foster death, some
>original, some reprints from mainstream media, contact

>ns...@ix.netcom.com. because I've been kicked off for being
>a big liar and smear artist at my old address, ns...@earthlink.net.

>Harold Covington
>www.defamation.org


Alan Furman

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In article <5s1ar6$l...@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com>,
NSWPP <ns...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>[nazi propaganda]

talk.politics.guns is not your diaper. Take your off-topic crap elsewhere.

--
====al...@aimnet.com * LPC * LPUSA * ISIL * IOS * KoX * Netscab Squealer====
LEGALIZE FREEDOM >>>> http://www.lp.org * UBI LIBERTAS IBI PATRIA
"I see that the White House is like a subway--you have to put in coins to
open the gates." Johnny Chung, quoted in Washington Post, 7/27/97, p. A16

Stefan P A Brand

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Richard G. Phillips wrote:
>
> I cannot of course presume to speak for nationalists, generally, but I
> am prepared to say that most of us are not insisting on an ALL-white
> America. OUr country is big enough to take a little diversity, but only
> a little. You can liken it to putting pepper on your omelette. A
> little sprinkle adds tang and zest; too much and you'll choke on it.
> America is choking today.

I guess the assumption is that since Whites invaded the land occupied by
non-white Native Americans and murdered them, that makes America a
"White" country. Please correct me if I misunderstood.
--

Stefan P A Brand
North Lauderdale, Florida, United States Of America

DI Thomas Mohr

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ns...@ix.netcom.com(NSWPP) wrote:

And think of the immense cost of human lifes, the terror and of the
immense damage to European culture brought by Nazis during 1938-1945.

>Make no mistake, the Aryan is the
>noblest of God's creation.
>
> Yet today we face almost certain extinction in another century if
>we do not change our way of thinking, our way of living and our way of
>dealing with life. How has this happened? In the coming weeks, we'll
>tell you. Why has it happened? Who is responsible? And above all, what
>can we do about it? All these things we will be talking about. But for
>now I'll give you a simple hint: the answer lies in the life and work
>of the greatest philosopher and statesman and man of action our noble
>people has ever produced. His name was Adolf Hitler. You'll be
>hearing a lot about him, too.

I've already heard about him. And my family has firsthand experience
with his terror-government. Hitler a great philosopher ? He was a
highschool-dropout and a homeless.

>
> So be sure to visit this site every week from now on; in
>addition to these audio commentaries of mine you'll find new literature
>and new features almost every time you check in. For now I'll sign off,
>but I hope you will soon make the decision to join us, and help us to
>Free America!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Freedom means the right to say that two plus two equals four.
>Once this is achieved, all else follows." - George Orwell, 1984
>

Will Williams

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Christopher Christie <ch...@cts.com> wrote:
>grea...@mindspring.com wrote:
[snip the usual crap]

Very good, Chris. I used to not be "anti-Semitic" either. Actually I'm
still not anti-Semitic since most Semites are not Jews and I have no
beef with Arab people as they do not control my media and government.

But once I learned the facts you just laid out so nicely for us,
unlike yourself, I was unable to dissemble those facts without
pointing the finger of blame at the Jew. It's a simple matter of cause
and effect. The Jew is at the root of nearly all of America's
problems, particularly those related to race.

Does your middle name have "Christ" in it too?

Think Racially -- Act Locally!

WWW <www.natvan.com>


DI Thomas Mohr

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sbr...@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>nojunk.th...@univie.ac.at (DI Thomas Mohr) wrote:
>
>>And think of the immense cost of human lifes, the terror and of the
>>immense damage to European culture brought by Nazis during 1938-1945.
>

>Jew-created Bolshevism murdered TENS of millions of Whites in Russia
>and Europe. But I guess that's OK, right? When do I ever hear you
>mentioning or decrying that? Maybe because JEWS were the creators and
>leaders of that movement?
>

This argument is completely irrelevant. "But Daddy, John did this and
that" is the argumentation of five year olds. If you would be a
commie, I would mention that to you, don't worry.

>You're so full of worn-out cliches and hackneyed bullshit, you aren't
>even =capable= of assimilating the truth about these matters!

Worn out cliches and hackeyed bullshit, eh ? You never had a National
Socialist regime in the USA, in Europe they have very different
experiences with Nazis. Why do you think Nazis go to jail here ? Just
for fun ? They are considered as traitors.

Believe me, I am capable to assimilate the both sides of the truth. In
my family are first hand witnesses of the Gestapo, Concentration Camps
AND the communist regime. Have you ever been to for instance a
concentration camp or a communist country ?

>By all
>means: plow on, mighty ignoramus!
>
>Brian Smith
>http://www.natall.com
>
>"A civilization which tolerates the existence of Kaplan and his filthy
>business should be burned to the ground" I said. "We should make
>a bonfire of the whole thing and then start over fresh."

This citation says it all: "burn down civilizations in a bonfire" what
a perspective ...

>
>_The Turner Diaries_. p. 85
>
>>-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
> \|/ Towards a New Consciousness. \|/
> | A New Future. |
> A New People.
>>.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
>
>

Hundreds of millions of people have been killed for the sake of
ideologies. This is true for religions as well as political
ideologies. To judge an ideology correctly, you have to take a look at
the basic concepts. Seen in this light, christianity gets a very good
mark, communism is doomed to fail because

1) it is based on circumstances which don't exist anymore
2) because it neglects basic traits of humans.
3) It favours dictatorship with all negative aspects (even the
occurence of mass-murder).

Now lets take a few looks on National Socialism:

It for instance contains the concept of inferior human "races"
(especially Jews) which have to be "eradicated" i.e. ikilled
eventually.

In it's basic concepts it contains the request to conquer "space for
living" from other inferior human races - a very agressive ideology.

It is based on Social Darwinism - protecting the strong and eradicate
the weak and disabled as it was done systematically in Schloss
Klessheim in Upper Austria. In my opinion this is directly against the
principle trait which separates humans from animals.

Finally a few facts in connection with your "great statesman and
philosopher" Hitler:

The Austrian chancellors E. Dollfuss and K. Schuschnigg as well as the
Austrian philosopher E.K. Winter recognized as early as 1933 (!) that
National Socialists are a danger to peace and inacceptible as
governing party and took immediately measures against them. They fough
stoutly and with success (at least as long as Italy supported them)
against the establishment of an National Socialist government in
Austria from 1934 till 1938.

The German (!) General-Lieutenant (Eqv. to a 4 star general) Beck (one
of the highest ranking officers in the German Army) stated as early as
1936 or 1937 in a memorandum that Hitlers policy will inevantably lead
to war which will destroy Germany. Subsequently he resigned when
Germany began the war against Poland.

The British RearAdm Troubridge (naval attache in Berlin by that time)
wrote 1936 (after the treaty of Munich) in his diary that Hitler was
infuriated about the peacekeeping followups of this treaty because he
didn't get the war he was craving for.

There are some statements of persons from Hitlers immediate
surrounding that Hitler himself statet "I have to lead one more
European war" and that he want's to lead this war "solange er noch
jung genug ist um ihn zu geniessen" [as long as he is young enough to
enjoy it]. To enjoy (!) the war ....

Brian Smith

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nojunk.th...@univie.ac.at (DI Thomas Mohr) wrote:

>And think of the immense cost of human lifes, the terror and of the
>immense damage to European culture brought by Nazis during 1938-1945.

Jew-created Bolshevism murdered TENS of millions of Whites in Russia
and Europe. But I guess that's OK, right? When do I ever hear you
mentioning or decrying that? Maybe because JEWS were the creators and
leaders of that movement?

You're so full of worn-out cliches and hackneyed bullshit, you aren't
even =capable= of assimilating the truth about these matters! By all


means: plow on, mighty ignoramus!

Brian Smith
http://www.natall.com

"A civilization which tolerates the existence of Kaplan and his filthy
business should be burned to the ground" I said. "We should make
a bonfire of the whole thing and then start over fresh."

_The Turner Diaries_. p. 85

Brian Smith

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nojunk.th...@univie.ac.at (DI Thomas Mohr) wrote:

>sbr...@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>>Jew-created Bolshevism murdered TENS of millions of Whites in Russia
>>and Europe. But I guess that's OK, right? When do I ever hear you
>>mentioning or decrying that? Maybe because JEWS were the creators and
>>leaders of that movement?

>This argument is completely irrelevant. "But Daddy, John did this and


>that" is the argumentation of five year olds. If you would be a
>commie, I would mention that to you, don't worry.

It is =highly= relevant that you continue spouting holohoax garbage
and debunked WWII propaganda stories about Germany, and yet always
completely omit any mention of the Jew-led Bolshevist slaughter of
tens of millions. Yes, it is highly relevant to where you are coming
from. I wouldn't be suprised if you are Jewish: If so, Marxism was a
Jew-created movement, so it doesn't speak very well for your people.

>Believe me, I am capable to assimilate the both sides of the truth. In
>my family are first hand witnesses of the Gestapo, Concentration Camps
>AND the communist regime. Have you ever been to for instance a
>concentration camp or a communist country ?

Were you there in a German concentration camp? Several witnesses
(including my own uncle) said the Germans treated them fairly,
humanely, and as best they could, especially given the deteriorating
conditions toward the end of the war. The German treatment of Allied
prisoners was certainly better than the Allied treatment of German
prisoners. The Red Cross was invited into the camps on numerous
occasions -- simply to investigate the exaggerated propaganda claims
of the Allies -- and found these camps to be in excellent sanitary
conditions and the prisoners treated well.

If you're so interested in honestly addressing or hearing the other
side (which I'm sure you are not) try some of these websites, which
expose the "gas chamber" hoax and several other now-exposed WWII
claims of the holohoax story.

http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html Zundelsite
http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~lpauling/ Student Revisionist Resource Site
http://www.eskimo.com/~ralphj/ Revisionist Productions
http://home1.gte.net/mgiwer/index.html Reflections upon the Holocaust
http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/LEUCHTER/leuchtertoc.html The
Leuchter Report
http://www.hoffman-info.com/ The Hoffman Report
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/ Greg Raven's Website
http://www.codoh.com/irving/irving.html David Irving
http://www.codoh.com/ Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust
(Bradley Smith)
http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/index.html L'Association des Anciens
Amateurs de Récits de Guerre et
d'Holocauste (also in English)
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/ Arthur R. Butz
http://www.air-photo.com/ Air Photo Evidence (John Ball)
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html Adelaide Institute

But you won't: you're only interested in mouthing the same old false
crap.

>>"A civilization which tolerates the existence of Kaplan and his filthy
>>business should be burned to the ground" I said. "We should make
>>a bonfire of the whole thing and then start over fresh."

>This citation says it all: "burn down civilizations in a bonfire" what
>a perspective ...

This Jewish society is corrupt and untenable. It is at cross-purposes
the best interest of Whites as a race, and even every race. It cannot
be "modified." We must build a new society -- like the Founding
Fathers did -- which is based on the preservation and advancement of
our kind, instead of one dedicated to its destruction.

>Hundreds of millions of people have been killed for the sake of
>ideologies. This is true for religions as well as political
>ideologies. To judge an ideology correctly, you have to take a look at
>the basic concepts. Seen in this light, christianity gets a very good
>mark,

Christianity elevates and venerates the botched and the weak and the
defective. Nature is based on the unforgiving law of survival and the
thoroughbred. Christianity unfits one for survival on this earth.
Struggle is the inexorable law of life.

>communism is doomed to fail because

>1) it is based on circumstances which don't exist anymore
>2) because it neglects basic traits of humans.
>3) It favours dictatorship with all negative aspects (even the
>occurence of mass-murder).

There were mass murders under Christianity.

>Now lets take a few looks on National Socialism:

>It for instance contains the concept of inferior human "races"
>(especially Jews) which have to be "eradicated" i.e. ikilled
>eventually.

>In it's basic concepts it contains the request to conquer "space for
>living" from other inferior human races - a very agressive ideology.

Your ignorance shows through again. Have you read _Mein Kampf_? And
I don't mean just the parts its detractors cut and snip out of it.
There isn't a single reference in it to eradicating any people. Did
you know that? I doubt it. Have you ever read _The Myth of the 20th
Century_, the other seminal National Socialist work? Didn't think so.
Again, you speak only from ignorance, third hand cliches, and hoary
war propaganda.

>It is based on Social Darwinism - protecting the strong and eradicate
>the weak and disabled as it was done systematically in Schloss
>Klessheim in Upper Austria. In my opinion this is directly against the
>principle trait which separates humans from animals.

The separation of human beings from the biological world is an
artificial one. Humans function overwhelmingly according to instinct,
and other animals exhibit degrees of logical capability. Again, our
purpose on this earth is to evolve towards ever increasing levels of
higher consciousness, towards a better breed of man. Many Christians
and egalitarians, of course, shriek hysterically at the notion of
eugenics to create a better man. "We can do so for horses and dogs,
but not man!! No, we -can't do that!!"

Eradication of lower species is nowhere contemplated in the National
Socialist ideology -- that is purely a Jewish lie. Of course, you
seem to specialize in that kind of mendacity.

>Finally a few facts in connection with your "great statesman and
>philosopher" Hitler:

>The Austrian chancellors E. Dollfuss and K. Schuschnigg as well as the
>Austrian philosopher E.K. Winter recognized as early as 1933 (!) that
>National Socialists are a danger to peace and inacceptible as
>governing party and took immediately measures against them.

They were politicians: what politicians =aren't= interested in
maintaining their power? NS was certainly a danger to them and their
mercenary, Jew-beholden politics and economics, that's for sure.
National Socialism for the preservation of the Aryan peoples, free
from Jewish control and non-Whites. The Negroes and muds have whole
continents to themselves. The White man -- the most advanced race on
this earth -- certainly must have his own space as well.

>The German (!) General-Lieutenant (Eqv. to a 4 star general) Beck (one
>of the highest ranking officers in the German Army) stated as early as
>1936 or 1937 in a memorandum that Hitlers policy will inevantably lead
>to war which will destroy Germany. Subsequently he resigned when
>Germany began the war against Poland.

Germany offered Europe the most comprehensive peace treaty ever
presented. Hitler pledged to protect the English empire and have
Europe disarm. The despicable buffoon Churchill, now having assured
his alliance with Roosevelt, sent Hitler the reply: "War until
Victory!"

>The British RearAdm Troubridge (naval attache in Berlin by that time)
>wrote 1936 (after the treaty of Munich) in his diary that Hitler was
>infuriated about the peacekeeping followups of this treaty because he
>didn't get the war he was craving for.

That makes little sense. Hitler made a number of peace addresses, the
final on July 19, 1940.

>There are some statements of persons from Hitlers immediate
>surrounding that Hitler himself statet "I have to lead one more
>European war" and that he want's to lead this war "solange er noch
>jung genug ist um ihn zu geniessen" [as long as he is young enough to
>enjoy it]. To enjoy (!) the war ....

The Allies declared war on Hitler first, and Roosevelt was attacking
German vessels on the high seas in 1939, a causus belli, and obviously
trying to provoke war. Roosevelt also made a number of clear
violations of neutrality as well. The record shows that Hitler made
several attempts to secure peace with France and England. The Jewish
webs of intrigue -- the same sort which spun WWI out of thin air --
were already afoot. Jews declared war on Germany in 1933 because
Hitler wanted Germany and its economy for the Germans, and not the
Jews. The record shows that the Jews and the Allies wanted to destroy
Hitler. The most pressing reason is Hitler's refusal to go along with
Jewish international finance, usury, and meddling.

It seems you have a few informational gaps to cure. Good luck: you
have quite a bit of reading to do!

http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/ Greg Raven's Website
http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html Zundelsite
http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~lpauling/ Student Revisionist Resource Site
http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/LEUCHTER/leuchtertoc.html
http://www.codoh.com/irving/irving.html David Irving
http://www.codoh.com/ Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust
http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/ Arthur R. Butz
http://www.air-photo.com/ Air Photo Evidence (John Ball)
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html Adelaide Institute
http://www.codoh.com/rudolf/rudreport/rudreport.html

DI Thomas Mohr

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sbr...@micron.net (Brian Smith) wrote:

>nojunk.th...@univie.ac.at (DI Thomas Mohr) wrote:
>

<snip>

>
>It is =highly= relevant that you continue spouting holohoax garbage
>and debunked WWII propaganda stories about Germany, and yet always
>completely omit any mention of the Jew-led Bolshevist slaughter of
>tens of millions. Yes, it is highly relevant to where you are coming
>from. I wouldn't be suprised if you are Jewish: If so, Marxism was a
>Jew-created movement, so it doesn't speak very well for your people.
>

For the evaluation of National Socialism, deeds done in the name of
other ideologies ARE irrelevant. It could alse have been the killing
of billions of little green men by other aliens on Jupiter. For the
evaluation of National Socialism that has the same elevance: NONE.

BTW: I'm not jewish. I can trace my family back to the 15th century
which would constitute what Nazis called a "grand proof of aryan
descent".

<snip>


>
>Were you there in a German concentration camp? Several witnesses
>(including my own uncle) said the Germans treated them fairly,
>humanely, and as best they could, especially given the deteriorating
>conditions toward the end of the war.

Was your uncle a POW ? I suppose so. The Germans treated POW's (except
Russians) very well, because they were concerned over the treatment of
German POW's in allied camps.

>The German treatment of Allied
>prisoners was certainly better than the Allied treatment of German
>prisoners. The Red Cross was invited into the camps on numerous
>occasions -- simply to investigate the exaggerated propaganda claims
>of the Allies -- and found these camps to be in excellent sanitary
>conditions and the prisoners treated well.
>

The camps the RC was ALLOWED to inspect were well run. Nazis did a lot
for a good press. My Grand uncle and several alumni of my student frat
were prisoners in Dachau for political reasons. They can tell stories
which make your blood freezing - even if only 10% is true.

Try to read Ten Boom, Corrie: The Refuge. The last part is about a
stay in Ravensbrueck.

<snip>

>
>Christianity elevates and venerates the botched and the weak and the
>defective. Nature is based on the unforgiving law of survival and the
>thoroughbred. Christianity unfits one for survival on this earth.
>Struggle is the inexorable law of life.

If christianity makes you unfit for life, why did it survive the
holocausts under the roman emperors Caligula, Nero and Domitian ? Why
did it become one of the most successful religions on earth ?

You forget that the whole and so successful European civilization is
NOT based on the philosophy of Nordic gods, where blue eyed blonde
warriors fear that the sky might falll down on their heads and have
the only wish to die in battle in order that they are elected to take
part in an eternal beer orgy after death.

It is based on Roman, Greek and you guess it - CHRISTIAN values.


>
>>communism is doomed to fail because
>
>>1) it is based on circumstances which don't exist anymore
>>2) because it neglects basic traits of humans.
>>3) It favours dictatorship with all negative aspects (even the
>>occurence of mass-murder).
>
>There were mass murders under Christianity.

True, but christianity itself is a religion of peace.

<snip>

>
>Your ignorance shows through again. Have you read _Mein Kampf_? And
>I don't mean just the parts its detractors cut and snip out of it.
>There isn't a single reference in it to eradicating any people. Did
>you know that? I doubt it. Have you ever read _The Myth of the 20th
>Century_, the other seminal National Socialist work? Didn't think so.
>Again, you speak only from ignorance, third hand cliches, and hoary
>war propaganda.
>

Ever read read the authors which influenced Hitler during his Viennese
time and are a major source of his philosophy, Georg Lanz von
Liebenfels and Georg v. Schoenerer ? Lanz von Liebenfels is very clear
about the fate of the "Untermenschen".

>>It is based on Social Darwinism - protecting the strong and eradicate
>>the weak and disabled as it was done systematically in Schloss
>>Klessheim in Upper Austria. In my opinion this is directly against the
>>principle trait which separates humans from animals.
>
>The separation of human beings from the biological world is an
>artificial one. Humans function overwhelmingly according to instinct,
>and other animals exhibit degrees of logical capability.

It is not totally artificial, since humans are - in difference to
animals - are capable to reflect over their deeds and to recognize the
reasons for their deeds. And, due to the excessive use of tools humans
are capable to escape evolution to a wide degree since they can reform
the environment according to human needs.

>Again, our
>purpose on this earth is to evolve towards ever increasing levels of
>higher consciousness, towards a better breed of man. Many Christians
>and egalitarians, of course, shriek hysterically at the notion of
>eugenics to create a better man.
>"We can do so for horses and dogs,
>but not man!! No, we -can't do that!!"

Do you know why christians have this point of view ? Because this
would drag humans down to the level of animals. It's simply against
the dignity of man. Do you know one of the main differences betwen
animals and humans ? The capability to be mercyful.


>
>Eradication of lower species is nowhere contemplated in the National
>Socialist ideology -- that is purely a Jewish lie. Of course, you
>seem to specialize in that kind of mendacity.

So why do you have this citation in your signature about the
civilisation bonfire and all ?

Above you said that National Socialist Ideology doesn't contain a hint
to the eradication of people, and now you praise eugenics as it was
done in Klessheim,demasking, isn't it ?

You can not apply a selectionistic approach and say that National
Socialist ideology does not include eradication of "unfit" life. It's
simply not logical because nature EXACTLY does that.. If you really
want to achieve a thoroughbred mankind by selectionistic methods as
you stated before, you have to replace nature and finally you HAVE to
eradicate people which you consider inferior - for instance jews. Face
it: Your ideology includes the eradication of people and is inhuman.

>
>>Finally a few facts in connection with your "great statesman and
>>philosopher" Hitler:
>
>>The Austrian chancellors E. Dollfuss and K. Schuschnigg as well as the
>>Austrian philosopher E.K. Winter recognized as early as 1933 (!) that
>>National Socialists are a danger to peace and inacceptible as
>>governing party and took immediately measures against them.
>
>They were politicians: what politicians =aren't= interested in
>maintaining their power? NS was certainly a danger to them and their
>mercenary, Jew-beholden politics and economics, that's for sure.
>National Socialism for the preservation of the Aryan peoples, free
>from Jewish control and non-Whites.

After 1918 the unificatrion of Austria and Germany was an expressed
goal for both the socialist and the christiandemocratic party for a
long time (Some socialists even welcomed Hitler in 1938). So the
argument of "keeping the power" fails. The goal of unification was
quickly abandoned by the christian democrats under Dollfuss with and
expressively because of the rise of Hitler. To cite Dollfuss: "With
Hitler as a chancellor in Germany, Austria is the better German (sic
!) state."

>The Negroes and muds have whole
>continents to themselves. The White man -- the most advanced race on
>this earth -- certainly must have his own space as well.
>
>>The German (!) General-Lieutenant (Eqv. to a 4 star general) Beck (one
>>of the highest ranking officers in the German Army) stated as early as
>>1936 or 1937 in a memorandum that Hitlers policy will inevantably lead
>>to war which will destroy Germany. Subsequently he resigned when
>>Germany began the war against Poland.
>
>Germany offered Europe the most comprehensive peace treaty ever
>presented. Hitler pledged to protect the English empire and have
>Europe disarm.
>

So why this memomrandum of Gen. Beck ? Why the massive rearming of
Germany with comprehensive service, reconstruction of the fleet, the
airforce and so ? Economical studies show, that the German economy
progressively was turning into a war economy from 35 or so on with a
high production of weapons.

>The despicable buffoon Churchill, now having assured
>his alliance with Roosevelt, sent Hitler the reply: "War until
>Victory!"

With Hitlers record of breaking treaties ... No wonder.

>>The British RearAdm Troubridge (naval attache in Berlin by that time)
>>wrote 1936 (after the treaty of Munich) in his diary that Hitler was
>>infuriated about the peacekeeping followups of this treaty because he
>>didn't get the war he was craving for.
>
>That makes little sense. Hitler made a number of peace addresses, the
>final on July 19, 1940

That makes well sense since Hitler made a lot of addresses and
treaties to break them. Troubridge (as a naval attache) certainly had
the possibility to look "behind the curtains" and as a Briton he
wasn't blinded by the system.

>
>>There are some statements of persons from Hitlers immediate
>>surrounding that Hitler himself statet "I have to lead one more
>>European war" and that he want's to lead this war "solange er noch
>>jung genug ist um ihn zu geniessen" [as long as he is young enough to
>>enjoy it]. To enjoy (!) the war ....
>
>The Allies declared war on Hitler first, and Roosevelt was attacking
>German vessels on the high seas in 1939, a causus belli, and obviously
>trying to provoke war.

To cite Roosevelt on that subject: "If you see a rattlesnake, you
don't wait till it bites you."

>Roosevelt also made a number of clear
>violations of neutrality as well. The record shows that Hitler made
>several attempts to secure peace with France and England.

Hitler started the war with the attack of Poland. GB and France only
fulfilled their treaties with Poland. Hitler simply didn't expect that
GB and France would really enter the war.

BTW the attack of Poland was NOT triggered by the fake attack of
"polish" soldiers of the radiostation Gleiwitz. There are records that
the attack was scheduled one week or so earlier. In fact the attack
was postponed so late that some German patrols began WWII to early -
so to say.


>The Jewish
>webs of intrigue -- the same sort which spun WWI out of thin air --
>were already afoot. Jews declared war on Germany in 1933 because
>Hitler wanted Germany and its economy for the Germans, and not the
>Jews.

Jews "declared" war on Germany because Hitler becan one of the most
monstrous "legalized" crimes in history.

PS, contrary to your opinion, I've read some of the web-sites you
cited. They are practically all against what you call the "gassing
hoax". You don't get the real monstrousity: Millions of completely
innocent humans, men, women and children where robbed, exploited like
slaves, terrorized, imprisoned and killed only because they were Jews.
If there are one or 10 million deaths in concentration camps or if
they where gassed, shot or burned or whatever is irrelevant. It
remains together with Stalins terror regime one of the biggest crimes
against human rights in history.

Ted Frank

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>If christianity makes you unfit for life, why did it survive the
>holocausts under the roman emperors Caligula, Nero and Domitian ?

The three thousand Arian Christians killed as a result of a doctrinal
dispute at Constantine I's first Council of Nicaea (Arius and his
followers had the gall to take a unitarian view of Christianity) outnumber
all of the Christians killed by the Roman empire in three centuries of
oppression.

An average of under ten people a year is far from a "holocaust," and if it
is, Christianity is guilty of dozens of uncounted holocausts, both
against its own people and others.

(Please note that I in no way agree with the paleo-Nazi the poster I'm
responding to is disagreeing with; my bone of contention is the
appellation of "holocaust" to the Roman-Christian relationship.)

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Don Baker <ba...@areatech.net> wrote:

>THIS REPULSIVE HOMOSEXUAL CESSPOOL ONCE CALLED AMERICA

You really need to get out more, Jethro.

>The drink deadly cocktails semen, blood and excrement from a strangers
>penis that had just been inserted into their own anus. They insert live
>rodents into their rectums to die a horrible death. They have no control
>over their urges and will risk infecting the world with the incurable
>virus of AIDS and in typical homosexual manner, not give a damn about
>the effects on the world. They only care about themselves, but when
>their actions come back to haunt them, we HETROS MUST OBEY, PITY, NOT
>QUESTION and SURRENDER OUR OPINIONS AND DIGNITY TO THEIR SERVICE.

Really? And you know this from personal experience? What an intimate
knowledge of homosexual sexual practices you have.

>Farewell America once the greatest land on earth, now going the same way
>as Rome under the control of sub-human sex freaks and disease carrying
>filth bringing the whole society into the sewage with them.

>Cunanan was being projected by S&M homosexuals and we were never told
>this.

So where did YOu hear it? From the little voices in your head?

>AIDS is almost 0% among ordinary Americans yet they are expected to
>bank-roll a diesase they themselves have been smart enough to avoid
>getting.

BZZZZT! So sorry! Wrong answer! heterosexuals - which is what i assume
you meant by "ordinary" americans - have an unhealthy percentage of
AIDS infection. Homosexual men are currently the only group among
which the disease is in decline. The largest growing sector is 18-25
yo heterosexuals. We're talking about a fucking VIRUS here! The goddam
thing doesn't even have abrain, and you are telling me that the
fucking shit can tell the difference between a homosexual's
bloodstraem and a heterosexual's bloodstream - or even that it would
treat the helper T-Cells any differently? Please. I'm sure you don't
like homosexuals, and you are definitely entitled to your opinion -
but you ARE frothing at the mouth a bit, and are presenting yourself
as being somewhat hysterical and unreasonable.


>Where are the animal rights crowd? Certainly not outside pet-stores
>preventing these vicious creeps from tourturing rodents during gay sex
>rituals. Remember Cunanan started with animals.

Most serial killers do - but they usually crush, torture or shoot the
animals. You have once heard a rumor about the rodent thing, and not
only assumed that it was true but then made the amazingly bizarre leap
of illogic to assume that it was also universally practiced! Tell me -
how do you suppose they got the fucking things up a human anus in the
first place?

>Most serial killers are homosexuals: Dahmer, John-Wayne-Gacy, Ted Bundy,

BZZZZZT! Bundy killed and raped young women. Don't forget Jack the
Ripper, or Richard Speck ( who killed student nurses) or Richard
Ramirez "The Hillside Strangler", or the most prolific slayer,
mutilator and rapist of young ugly prostitutes "The Green River
Killer".


>The Yorkshire Ripper and most of their victims are young boys and women.
>There are at least 3 books claiming that Josef Stalin, the greatest mass
>killer in history (42 million innocent men women and children) was a
>homosexual.

>They WILL rape your children, take your jobs and destroy your families.
>See good old Disney who are 'priming' your young son's anus and mouth
>for its future use and a semen collector for middle aged men.

So I suppose the pervert who rapes my daughter is actually a
homosexual? And, aside from the sillines of your rather colorful
analogy would you be so kind as to explain to me exactly how it is
that you propose they are preparing my children to be raped by
rereleasing Fantasia?

>The initial urge regarding homosexuals was that they rape children - yes
>they do, and Disney will make sure the dream lives on!

>The initial feeling about AIDS was that it was nature wiping them out -
>that was correct! But in America you can have everything you want except
>the truth.

Sometimes the truth doesn't conform to your preconcieved notions about
what reality is - or should be.

>Gay pride what a joke! Middle-aged men walk down the main streets of our
>cities wearing leather, pierced-organs and words like pride, dignity and
>respect being thrown about - what a fucking joke

>The land of liberty destroy by buggery.

I know few homosexuals, and I hardly see the dark, smelly cesspool you
so colorfully conjur up. There is a word for what you see, my fiend.
it is called "hallucinations". Now go on, tell us how you REALLY feel!

Byte me.
GARRYOWEN!


WJR

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Aug 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/13/97
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Will Williams typed:

>
> Christopher Christie <ch...@cts.com> wrote:
> >grea...@mindspring.com wrote:
> [snip the usual crap]
>
> >Herman,
..... (snip) People have pointd out the high percentage of Jews

> >in positions of power in the media and in politics. Both of my Senators
> >are Jewish and they both support Israel....

(snip)

>
> Very good, Chris. I used to not be "anti-Semitic" either. Actually I'm
> still not anti-Semitic since most Semites are not Jews and I have no
> beef with Arab people as they do not control my media and government.

> Think Racially -- Act Locally!
>
> WWW <www.natvan.com>


Good God, I hate this whining.

What you say about Jews in power in the U.S. might be true, and if so,
there's a reason for it. The Jewish culture stresses individuality and
thinking for yourself. The Jewish boy or girl is taught from day one to
question authority -- even the holy books of Judaism itself, whose
margins are filled with arguments and counter-arguments by generations
of rabbis. Can you ever imagine a Christian church teaching its young
people to doubt, question, and re-interpret the New Testament?

Doubtful. Christian culture teaches dumb obedience. Where the Jewish
child is taught to think for his or her self and not take any crap from
those in power, the Christian child is generally spoon-fed and
horse-whipped into a narrow interpretation of the New Testament that
he's warned never to question for fear of eternal hellfire.

What does this mean in the real world? It means that in a free-market
economy where innovation and intelligence are key to success --
especially in such fields as politics and the media -- Jews tend to beat
out Christians for the good jobs and influential positions.

And what do we see here, on the Internet? White Christian losers whining
about how "unfair" it all is.

Give me a break, you guys. If you can't handle living in a free-market
economy, consider moving to China.

(and for the record, I am a white Euro-American agnostic male, thankful
his parents didn't raise him Xtian!)

Will Williams

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Aug 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/17/97
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WJR wrote:
>Will Williams typed:
>> Christopher Christie wrote:
>>
>> >People have pointd out the high percentage of Jews
>> >in positions of power in the media and in politics. Both of my Senators
>> >are Jewish and they both support Israel....
>>
>> Very good, Chris. I used to not be "anti-Semitic" either. Actually I'm
>> still not anti-Semitic since most Semites are not Jews and I have no
>> beef with Arab people as they do not control my media and government.

>> Think Racially -- Act Locally!
>>
>> WWW <www.natvan.com>

>Good God, I hate this whining.

Whining?

>What you say about Jews in power in the U.S. might be true,

Might be?

>and if so,
>there's a reason for it. The Jewish culture stresses individuality and
>thinking for yourself. The Jewish boy or girl is taught from day one to
>question authority -- even the holy books of Judaism itself, whose
>margins are filled with arguments and counter-arguments by generations
>of rabbis

Jewish culture strsses putting Jewry ahead of all else. Fact!

>Can you ever imagine a Christian church teaching its young
>people to doubt, question, and re-interpret the New Testament?

Barely.

>Doubtful. Christian culture teaches dumb obedience. Where the Jewish
>child is taught to think for his or her self and not take any crap from
>those in power, the Christian child is generally spoon-fed and
>horse-whipped into a narrow interpretation of the New Testament that
>he's warned never to question for fear of eternal hellfire.

You get little argument out of me there.

>What does this mean in the real world? It means that in a free-market
>economy where innovation and intelligence are key to success --
>especially in such fields as politics and the media -- Jews tend to beat
>out Christians for the good jobs and influential positions.

Sounds like Whitey needs a new religion.

>And what do we see here, on the Internet? White Christian losers whining
>about how "unfair" it all is.

I hope you're not suggesting that I'm a Xtian.

>Give me a break, you guys. If you can't handle living in a free-market
>economy, consider moving to China.

Uh huh...

>(and for the record, I am a white Euro-American agnostic male, thankful
>his parents didn't raise him Xtian!)

Sounds like you're a candidate for conversion to Judaism; 'twould no
doubt be good for your career.


Calvin

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Aug 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/20/97
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In article <33F1E0...@hotmail.com>, WJR <wr...@hotmail.com> writes

>
>Doubtful. Christian culture teaches dumb obedience. Where the Jewish
>child is taught to think for his or her self and not take any crap from
>those in power, the Christian child is generally spoon-fed and
>horse-whipped into a narrow interpretation of the New Testament that
>he's warned never to question for fear of eternal hellfire.
>
>What does this mean in the real world? It means that in a free-market
>economy where innovation and intelligence are key to success --
>especially in such fields as politics and the media -- Jews tend to beat
>out Christians for the good jobs and influential positions.

Err, what? Are you seriously suggesting that Xtians are less
successful because they are Xtians? Don't you know that the VAST
MAJORITY of Xtians NEVER listen to their church, rarely go to mass,
don't give a fig if a chap is jewish/muslim/satanic and do NOT raise
their kids to be idiots. Again, the monkey-boy extremists have tainted
your view. Get some perspective, you sad twat.
--
Calvin

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