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Toastmaster

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Aug 19, 2002, 10:02:36 PM8/19/02
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Ghetto Stephanie wrote:

> Does anyone else have any preferences?

I am partial to Mapblast.com. They don't have intrusive ads
and they have a "Line Drive" mapping feature. Check it out.


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Pat O'Connell

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Aug 19, 2002, 10:34:32 PM8/19/02
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Toastmaster wrote:
>
> Ghetto Stephanie wrote:
>
> > Does anyone else have any preferences?
>
> I am partial to Mapblast.com. They don't have intrusive ads
> and they have a "Line Drive" mapping feature. Check it out.

ALso try MapsOnUs.com

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Dave C.

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Aug 19, 2002, 11:03:12 PM8/19/02
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> > Does anyone else have any preferences?
>
> I am partial to Mapblast.com. They don't have intrusive ads
> and they have a "Line Drive" mapping feature. Check it out.
>

Yup. I find mapblast directions easier to use than mapquest, for a couple
of reasons. First, the directions are usually more accurate. Second, when
they print, they are easier to read.

If you really want good directions, and use them a LOT, I'd recommend a
program called Microsoft Streets and Trips. I normally am not too quick to
recommend anything made by Microsoft, but this streets and trips program is
nice. (it came with my notebook, or I never would have tried it) It has
more accurate directions than ANY online map site I've tried. It's also
much faster, and includes some really nice options . . . especially if you
are making several stops. For example, you can "optimize" your stops to
minimize driving time. You can also print out your trip on fewer sheets of
paper. With one of the online map sites, you print one sheet for each stop
you make. With Streets and Trips, several stops will usually fit on two or
three sheets of paper, as opposed to 10 or 12.

But I'm not always near my computer to use Streets and Trips. So when I
have to get directions off the Internet, I use mapblast. -Dave


SPUI

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Aug 19, 2002, 11:04:49 PM8/19/02
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"Ghetto Stephanie" <sjwi...@unagi.cis.upenn.edu> wrote in message
news:ajs2n7$nrt$1...@netnews.upenn.edu...
> As a road geek, I am constantly referring to maps. Usually I go to mapquest,
> since it is easier to type than "maps.yahoo.com". Well, I will no longer use
> mapquest. First, they have been having this Imodium ad pop up where an
> Imodium truck comes along and farts. this takes about 15 seconds for the
> whole thing to go down. In the meantime, I can't type anything in the boxes.
> Then, just today, I went to look up Marsh Road in Wilmington, DE, and
> mapquest is too stupid to know the name of the major crossroad: Silverside
> Road.

I add any sites with annoying popups to the 'restricted sites' in IE and set
Javascript to off for that category. I'm not sure what other browsers have
something similar.


Scott Stearns

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Aug 19, 2002, 11:15:53 PM8/19/02
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"Ghetto Stephanie" <sjwi...@unagi.cis.upenn.edu> wrote in message
news:ajs2n7$nrt$1...@netnews.upenn.edu...
> As a road geek, I am constantly referring to maps. Usually I go to
mapquest,
> since it is easier to type than "maps.yahoo.com". Well, I will no longer
use
> mapquest. First, they have been having this Imodium ad pop up where an
> Imodium truck comes along and farts. this takes about 15 seconds for the
> whole thing to go down. In the meantime, I can't type anything in the
boxes.
> Then, just today, I went to look up Marsh Road in Wilmington, DE, and
> mapquest is too stupid to know the name of the major crossroad: Silverside
> Road.
>
> Does anyone else have any preferences?
>
> S.
>

I use www.mapsonus.com It's been pretty reliable.


My ex-boss, who runs a courier service, always gave us directions from
Microsoft's streets and Trips. It's very good, though it seemed to take them
several months to update the Georgia exit sign change. They update road
construction, etc. and can route you several different ways.

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Live from Mauldin, SC
No actual thought was harmed in the making of the preceding post.


Arif Khokar

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Aug 20, 2002, 12:01:03 AM8/20/02
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Ghetto Stephanie wrote:

> Yahoo maps gets it right:
>
> http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=marsh+road&city=Wilmington&st
> ate=DE&csz=Wilmington,+DE&slt=39.780650&sln=-75.506400&mlt=39.801587&mln=-75
> .505415&name=&zip=&country=us&BFKey=&BFCat=&BFClient=&mag=8&desc=&cs=9&newma
> g=9&poititle=&poi=&ds=n
>
> Mapquest screws it up:
>
> http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?zoom=7&mapdata=%2bDurgsgaQPvP19I3n1%2b6
> %2fla01Zf2A%2bSQyF%2bHmQL8MWS%2bWi6LWkB8Zlai7mnWhKR1WSwPcomftQJiRliV2%2bn%2b
> l8LgV0SFZdVA96Y1XvNMxQnmhofWWnIeb1SCP0q7d6bP7eH8%2blOtwdEAqyiAajUwXpS10%2bsM
> 760KtukGL9CGtY55LFEQDiXfwTU8U5iLr%2fUgb8Z9w6wO9D%2bEg1U1%2bKU%2bcEm0PARMExXP
> yDXyH8VgdkPM8ncIm%2bHGcAaSCuU4OL6THp2yW%2f3EJ%2b0%3d


>
> Does anyone else have any preferences?

Yeah, using a news client that doesn't wrap hyperlinks.

Jim Geiger

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Aug 20, 2002, 1:19:25 AM8/20/02
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>I'd recommend a
>program called Microsoft Streets and Trips. I normally am not too quick to
>recommend anything made by Microsoft, but this streets and trips program is
>nice.

There are locations on S&T that are severely out of whack.

In my hometown of Montgomery, AL...i would hope that an intinerant traveler
wouldn't need to rely on it to find some of the motels and eateries around I-85
that have been misplaced by S&T almost two miles eastward.

________________________________

Jim Geiger - back among the living

my band page:

http://hometown.aol.com/jgeiger54/justus.html

Jim Geiger

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Aug 20, 2002, 1:20:47 AM8/20/02
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>I tried to, but i don't know how to configure Eudora correctly! And my ISP,
>Comcast, refuses to support me using Eudora, since they support only Outlook
>Express for newsgroups!
>
>S.

Try this:

http://tinyurl.com/

Arif Khokar

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Aug 20, 2002, 1:39:08 AM8/20/02
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Ghetto Stephanie wrote:

> "Arif Khokar" <akhok...@wvu.edu> wrote in message


>>Yeah, using a news client that doesn't wrap hyperlinks.

> I tried to, but i don't know how to configure Eudora correctly! And my ISP,


> Comcast, refuses to support me using Eudora, since they support only Outlook
> Express for newsgroups!

For most isp's, it really doesn't matter what client (ftp, http, pop3,
nntp, etc.) you actually use. As long as you know the parameters for
configuring your software, then you can use anything you want.

If your news server is port 119, and your news server is
news.comcast.com, then just enter that information in the appropriate
boxes and the software should work.

Edmund Blackadder

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Aug 20, 2002, 1:51:20 AM8/20/02
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SPUI wrote:
>
> I add any sites with annoying popups to the 'restricted sites' in IE
> and set Javascript to off for that category. I'm not sure what other
> browsers have something similar.

Mozilla 1.0: Preferences -> Advanced -> Scripts and Windows -> make sure
"Open unrequested windows" and "Mail & Newsgroups" aren't checked (at
the very least). And, of course, Internet Junkbuster v2.0.2 with a
large blockfile.


As far as MapQuest v. MapBlast:
MQ:
+ Slightly better rural directions
+ Larger map option (with some images)
-- Occasionally _very_ slow

MB:
+ "Line-drive" directions for metro areas
- "Line-drive" directions in rural areas on gravel roads or worse (try
Bullhead City to Oatman, AZ)

Locally, I'll stick to Thomas Guides.

William Lynch

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Aug 20, 2002, 5:56:23 AM8/20/02
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Ghetto Stephanie wrote:

> X-No-Archive: Yes


> "Arif Khokar" <akhok...@wvu.edu> wrote in message

> news:3D61BEFF...@wvu.edu...


> > Ghetto Stephanie wrote:
>
> > > Does anyone else have any preferences?
> >
> > Yeah, using a news client that doesn't wrap hyperlinks.
> >
>

> I tried to, but i don't know how to configure Eudora correctly! And my ISP,
> Comcast, refuses to support me using Eudora, since they support only Outlook
> Express for newsgroups!
>

> S.

I would tell the ISP to get stuffed. An ISP that refuses to support
a non MS product is like a car that only runs Exxon.

Justin

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Aug 20, 2002, 8:15:36 AM8/20/02
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"Dave C." <spamm...@slowlyandpainfully.com> wrote in message
news:Qji89.13723$LO1.1...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...

> > > Does anyone else have any preferences?
> >
> > I am partial to Mapblast.com. They don't have intrusive ads
> > and they have a "Line Drive" mapping feature. Check it out.
> >
>
<snipped>

Try http://www.earthamaps.com

I find that it's faster on my computer because it only reloads the map,
instead of the entire page. It's from Delorme and is pretty good, for
showing county boundaries, exit numbers, and street level detail even when
zoomed far out.

Justin
Dallas, TX

www.jcozart.com


David Hillman

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Aug 20, 2002, 9:54:04 AM8/20/02
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In article <ajs2n7$nrt$1...@netnews.upenn.edu>,

Ghetto Stephanie <Stepha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Yahoo maps gets it right:
[snip]

>Does anyone else have any preferences?

I assume Yahoo a lot, but I'm getting very tired of the routes it
chooses. About half the time, they give me a "scenic" route that'd
take half-again as long as necessary.

I wind up just finding the location and plotting my own route, which is
usually shorter and quicker.


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Alice Cabrera

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Aug 20, 2002, 10:59:54 AM8/20/02
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In rec.autos.driving Arif Khokar <akhok...@wvu.edu> wrote:
: Yeah, using a news client that doesn't wrap hyperlinks.

No.. I want people to wrap hyperlinks... I can't see long hyperlinks that
haven't been wrapped. I have to reply and then move my cursor to the end
of each part if I want to get the whole thing. So I fully endorse people
who use news clients that wrap hyperlinks.

Alice

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Alice Cabrera

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Aug 20, 2002, 10:58:08 AM8/20/02
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In rec.autos.driving Dave C. <spamm...@slowlyandpainfully.com> wrote:

: Yup. I find mapblast directions easier to use than mapquest, for a couple


: of reasons. First, the directions are usually more accurate. Second, when
: they print, they are easier to read.

Blech. I've had really bad luck with MapsonUs... I tend to prefer Mapquest
(though there is a certain area in Seattle that all get wrong but I've
gotten used to what the right direcctions are in the area they get wrong,
it's always when you have to go a certain way on these roads).

Haven't tried anything other than MapsonUS or MapQuest though. Wouldn't
mind something better than MapQuest (it's not great but it certainly is
better than MapsOnUS).

Tigress

The.Central.Scru...@invalid.pobox.com

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Aug 20, 2002, 11:15:32 AM8/20/02
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In article <ajtlha$1o9$4...@news-int.gatech.edu>, Alice Cabrera wrote:
| In rec.autos.driving Arif Khokar <akhok...@wvu.edu> wrote:
| : Yeah, using a news client that doesn't wrap hyperlinks.

| No.. I want people to wrap hyperlinks... I can't see long hyperlinks that
| haven't been wrapped. I have to reply and then move my cursor to the end
| of each part if I want to get the whole thing. So I fully endorse people
| who use news clients that wrap hyperlinks.

Wrapping hyperlinks means that everyone who wants to follow such a link must
play a pain-in-the-ass game of cut'n'paste in sections. On most newsreaders you
can follow a hyperlink of any length.

Leave the hyperlink alone; put it on it's own line the right half will go past
80 characters, and don't post URLS longer than say 40 characters.

Michael Moroney

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Aug 20, 2002, 11:48:50 AM8/20/02
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"SPUI" <sp...@mit.BUTIDONTLIKESPeduAM> writes:

>I add any sites with annoying popups to the 'restricted sites' in IE and set
>Javascript to off for that category. I'm not sure what other browsers have
>something similar.

I do the same. Also useful for viewing websites on "free" webservers like
Geocities, Tripod etc.

-Mike

URABUS

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Aug 20, 2002, 12:19:23 PM8/20/02
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http://www.aaa.com

It takes a little while longer, but I haven't had issue with their
on-line maps (On-Line TripTiks)

You need to be an AAA member though.

--Urabus

"Ghetto Stephanie" <sjwi...@unagi.cis.upenn.edu> wrote in message news:<ajs2n7$nrt$1...@netnews.upenn.edu>...
> As a road geek, I am constantly referring to maps. Usually I go to mapquest,
> since it is easier to type than "maps.yahoo.com". Well, I will no longer use
> mapquest. First, they have been having this Imodium ad pop up where an
> Imodium truck comes along and farts. this takes about 15 seconds for the
> whole thing to go down. In the meantime, I can't type anything in the boxes.
> Then, just today, I went to look up Marsh Road in Wilmington, DE, and
> mapquest is too stupid to know the name of the major crossroad: Silverside
> Road.
>

> Yahoo maps gets it right:
>

> http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=marsh+road&city=Wilmington&st
> ate=DE&csz=Wilmington,+DE&slt=39.780650&sln=-75.506400&mlt=39.801587&mln=-75
> .505415&name=&zip=&country=us&BFKey=&BFCat=&BFClient=&mag=8&desc=&cs=9&newma
> g=9&poititle=&poi=&ds=n
>
> Mapquest screws it up:
>
> http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?zoom=7&mapdata=%2bDurgsgaQPvP19I3n1%2b6
> %2fla01Zf2A%2bSQyF%2bHmQL8MWS%2bWi6LWkB8Zlai7mnWhKR1WSwPcomftQJiRliV2%2bn%2b
> l8LgV0SFZdVA96Y1XvNMxQnmhofWWnIeb1SCP0q7d6bP7eH8%2blOtwdEAqyiAajUwXpS10%2bsM
> 760KtukGL9CGtY55LFEQDiXfwTU8U5iLr%2fUgb8Z9w6wO9D%2bEg1U1%2bKU%2bcEm0PARMExXP
> yDXyH8VgdkPM8ncIm%2bHGcAaSCuU4OL6THp2yW%2f3EJ%2b0%3d
>

> Does anyone else have any preferences?
>

> S.

Toastmaster

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Aug 20, 2002, 3:45:53 PM8/20/02
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SPUI wrote:

> I add any sites with annoying popups to the 'restricted sites' in IE and set
> Javascript to off for that category. I'm not sure what other browsers have
> something similar.

Mozilla has an option to outright disable popups.

Arif Khokar

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Aug 20, 2002, 5:03:22 PM8/20/02
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Alice Cabrera wrote:

> In rec.autos.driving Arif Khokar <akhok...@wvu.edu> wrote:


> : Yeah, using a news client that doesn't wrap hyperlinks.

> No.. I want people to wrap hyperlinks... I can't see long hyperlinks that
> haven't been wrapped. I have to reply and then move my cursor to the end
> of each part if I want to get the whole thing. So I fully endorse people
> who use news clients that wrap hyperlinks.

The link is usually on a line by itself, much like below:

http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=marsh+road&city=Wilmington&state=DE&csz=Wilmington,+DE&slt=39.780650&sln=-75.506400&mlt=39.801587&mln=-75.505415&name=&zip=&country=us&BFKey=&BFCat=&BFClient=&mag=8&desc=&cs=9&newmag=9&poititle=&poi=&ds=n

You should have no trouble reading my text despite the fact that the
hyperlink is not wrapped. Also, depending on your newsreader, you
should just be able to click on it and your web browser should open up
at the location specified. If not, then double click on the hyperlink
to highlight the entire line of text and then use the ctrl-c combination
to copy the text (assuming you're using a Windows platform).


Alice Cabrera

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Aug 21, 2002, 1:17:11 AM8/21/02
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In rec.autos.driving The.Central.Scru...@invalid.pobox.com wrote:
: Wrapping hyperlinks means that everyone who wants to follow such a link must

: play a pain-in-the-ass game of cut'n'paste in sections. On most newsreaders you
: can follow a hyperlink of any length.

No, not everyone. I don't use a newsreader that allows me to just click on
a hyperlink (don't tell me to use one, I like what I use a hellava lot
better tahn most of the crap out there... it is on a unix system which
means I can read my news from any computer as long as it has internet and
either ssh or a broowser I can get to the ssh page with). I use cut and
paste which is almost just as easy. Whne some one doesn't wrap their link,
the link goes past the veiwed screen and I have to actually reply to the
article (and not send) and move my cursor to the end of the page for as
long as the link would wrap around instead.

Of course this all would be solved for both parties if epople used
www.shorterlink.com which allows you to post a much shorter link that
doesn't have to wrap anyways so that it doesn't break the linkf or those
with newsreaders that can click on links and I can still cut and paste
easily.

Alice Cabrera

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Aug 21, 2002, 1:19:34 AM8/21/02
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In rec.autos.driving Arif Khokar <akhok...@wvu.edu> wrote:
: The link is usually on a line by itself, much like below:

: http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=marsh+road&city=Wilmington&state=DE&csz=Wilmington,+DE&slt=39.780650&sln=-75.506400&mlt=39.801587&mln=-75.505415&name=&zip=&country=us&BFKey=&BFCat=&BFClient=&mag=8&desc=&cs=9&newmag=9&poititle=&poi=&ds=n

: You should have no trouble reading my text despite the fact that the
: hyperlink is not wrapped. Also, depending on your newsreader, you

No, I suppose not (as it looked like it wrapped on my newsread anyways).
But I swear I've seen them posted where they went off the page (I don't
know if it is maybe they did somethign wrong or you knew the trick or
something).

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Scott

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Aug 21, 2002, 10:03:12 AM8/21/02
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 01:02:48 -0400, in misc.transport.road, "Ghetto
Stephanie" <sjwi...@unagi.cis.upenn.edu> wrote:

>X-No-Archive: Yes
>"Arif Khokar" <akhok...@wvu.edu> wrote in message
>news:3D61BEFF...@wvu.edu...
>> Ghetto Stephanie wrote:
>

>> > Does anyone else have any preferences?
>>
>> Yeah, using a news client that doesn't wrap hyperlinks.
>>
>
>

>I tried to, but i don't know how to configure Eudora correctly! And my ISP,
>Comcast, refuses to support me using Eudora, since they support only Outlook
>Express for newsgroups!
>
>S.
>

Learn how to set it up and it will work. You do not have to use OE
with Comcast.
Scott

Scott Nuzum

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Aug 21, 2002, 7:47:32 PM8/21/02
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David Hillman wrote in message ...

What I hate about Yahoo maps is that every route plotted from Fort Scott, it
seems, MUST go through Garland no matter which way the motorist intends to
go.

I plot a trip to Minneapolis, I gotta go *south* to Garland first and then
proceed from there.

I plot a trip to Colorado Springs, I gotta go *south* to Garland first and
then proceed from there (south to Garland and then *back through* Fort
Scott).

I don't understand it, except that it may be the fact that Fort Scott shares
its zip code with Hiattville, which is SW of Fort Scott, and Yahoo assumes I
am starting from there instead of Fort Scott.

Or then again, it could just be that Yahoo maps suck.

S.E.N.
I would put money on the latter.


dizzy

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Aug 21, 2002, 8:37:51 PM8/21/02
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On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 20:32:39 -0400, "Ghetto Stephanie"
<sjwi...@unagi.cis.upenn.edu> wrote:

>http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=marsh+road&city=Wilmington&st
>ate=DE&csz=Wilmington,+DE&slt=39.780650&sln=-75.506400&mlt=39.801587&mln=-75
>.505415&name=&zip=&country=us&BFKey=&BFCat=&BFClient=&mag=8&desc=&cs=9&newma
>g=9&poititle=&poi=&ds=n

Maybe you should also consider changing your newsreader program to a
decent one. One that, for example, can post unbroken long URL's, like
this one:

http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=marsh+road&city=Wilmington&state=DE&csz=Wilmington,+DE&slt=39.780650&sln=-75.506400&mlt=39.801587&mln=-75.505415&name=&zip=&country=us&BFKey=&BFCat=&BFClient=&mag=8&desc=&cs=9&newmag=9&poititle=&poi=&ds=n


Alice Cabrera

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Aug 22, 2002, 1:40:56 AM8/22/02
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In rec.autos.driving dizzy <di...@nospam.com> wrote:

: Maybe you should also consider changing your newsreader program to a


: decent one. One that, for example, can post unbroken long URL's, like
: this one:

No... I like my newsreader. I already posted why. It is one on a Unix
computer that I can connecct to from any computer with a web browser and
not have to use stupid web browser interface (I hate web browser included
newsreaders. All they do is bloat the web browser software). I can read my
email from any computer (because teh computer it is on has a web page
that allows me to ssh to that computer and even better if the computer
just has an ssh program) and it's fast (because it's
simple, not overly bloated crap that looks neat and runs horribley).

Sometimes it's the simple stuff that rusn the best (actually, most of the
time. The more complicated something gets the more ways it can mess up).

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Brandon Sommerville

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Aug 22, 2002, 7:29:31 AM8/22/02
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 03:46:17 -0400, "Ghetto Stephanie"
<sjwi...@unagi.cis.upenn.edu> wrote:

>"dizzy" <di...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:p527muc616rmo8sav...@4ax.com...

>will Eudora or Netscape do this??

http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=marsh+road&city=Wilmington&state=DE&csz=Wilmington,+DE&slt=39.780650&sln=-75.506400&mlt=39.801587&mln=-75.505415&name=&zip=&country=us&BFKey=&BFCat=&BFClient=&mag=8&desc=&cs=9&newmag=9&poititle=&poi=&ds=n

Check out http://www.forteinc.com
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ChrisCoaster

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Aug 22, 2002, 1:02:05 PM8/22/02
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"Dave C." <spamm...@slowlyandpainfully.com> wrote in message news:<Qji89.13723$LO1.1...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
> Yup. I find mapblast directions easier to use than mapquest, for a couple
> of reasons. First, the directions are usually more accurate. Second, when
> they print, they are easier to read.
>
> If you really want good directions, and use them a LOT, I'd recommend a

> program called Microsoft Streets and Trips. I normally am not too quick to
> recommend anything made by Microsoft, but this streets and trips program is
> nice. (it came with my notebook, or I never would have tried it) It has
> more accurate directions than ANY online map site I've tried. It's also
> much faster, and includes some really nice options . . . especially if you
> are making several stops. For example, you can "optimize" your stops to
> minimize driving time.
__________________
Actually, I use the ultimate maps and driving aids - available right
in your pharmacy: Hagstrom and Rand McNally.

I've had it up to here getting lost with Streets and Trips as well as
the on-line map sites. They just don't keep up with the times. Old
state road designations, exit sequences that are supposed to descend
as you drive across a state Ascend, and mislabeled local streets.

Scratch the computer generated maps - I'll go with the hard copies.

-ChrisCoaster

Dan Bock

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Aug 24, 2002, 9:45:51 PM8/24/02
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Does anyone know how quickly each of the map sites updates new roads?
Interstate 540 in Raleigh, N.C., for example, was extended to Capital
Blvd. two weeks ago. MapQuest, MapBlast, Yahoo Maps and AAA online all
show it terminating at Falls of Neuse Rd., about three miles short. I
didn't expect any of them to update it this quickly, but which can I
expect to update it first?

Kevin Marsico

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Michael Moroney

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Aug 25, 2002, 12:07:04 AM8/25/02
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lwt...@excite.com (Dan Bock) writes:

I think they update in bits and pieces as new info comes in. On the same
map provider some areas are relatively up to date and other areas are
VERY out of date.

-Mike

Raneman-GR

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MapsOnUs.Com so far is more accurate and Mapquest is not even close.
Also just tried Yahoo and it is better than Mapquest.

Thanks for mentioning Yahoo.

Gordon

Brian Polidoro

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Sorry but mapsonus.com sucks. First the small stuff: They had the I-270 /
MD 118 interchange wrong. They still show it as a full cloverleaf. It
hasn't been that way for at least 6 years. Mapquest and yahoo have that
right. Another is it still shows MD 124 as going through old town
Gaithersburg instead of going around it. Mapquest and Yahoo actually show
MD 124 doing both if you look close enough to old town Gaithersburg. Here's
one Yahoo got wrong: It shows Father Hurley Boulevard as continuous through
Germantown. But currently it is not because it doesn't cross the CSX
railine yet. Also Yahoo still shows MD 121 south of MD 117 which is wrong.
And Yahoo still shows MD 28 on Darnestown Road in the Hunting Hill area
when it was moved to Key West Ave a few years back.

Now the big one. On Mapsonus.com why are some interstates blue and some
pink? I have never heard of a map that had more than one color for an
interstate. Most interstates are blue on this map but there are a fair
share that are pink. For example in DC and Baltimore: I-795, I-395 (MD &
VA), I-195, I-370, and even I-97 are all shown in pink. And after looking
at this map for a few minutes I see they don't even show a difference
between a freeway and an arterial. I-195, the BWP and US 1 are all the same
color.

So not only is mapsonus.com no more accurate than other online maps but it
fails terribly in color coding the highways.

What I don't like about yahoo maps is that their maps get cluttered when you
zoom out. When you zoom out less detail should be shown. Only the major
roads should be shown. I'm referring mainly to zoom level 5.

You can go back and forth about inaccuracies in the maps. It just means
that no map is perfect.

And as for roads that are less than a year old. Nobody is going to have
those on their maps until at least the next year's map.
--
Brian Polidoro
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Daniel Davis

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A quick look at it and I'd say it's not even close.

Jacksonville, FL missing at least one segment of 9A (It looks like there
are 2 missing to me)
Orlando, FL where is SR 429? 417 is close but is missing a couple pieces.

Daniel


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Michael Moroney

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"Brian Polidoro" <bjpol...@gotrash.com> writes:

>Now the big one. On Mapsonus.com why are some interstates blue and some
>pink? I have never heard of a map that had more than one color for an
>interstate. Most interstates are blue on this map but there are a fair
>share that are pink. For example in DC and Baltimore: I-795, I-395 (MD &
>VA), I-195, I-370, and even I-97 are all shown in pink. And after looking
>at this map for a few minutes I see they don't even show a difference
>between a freeway and an arterial. I-195, the BWP and US 1 are all the same
>color.

Yes I looked at I-395 in VA/DC and it's quite bizarre on Mapsonus.
First I-395 is signed on I-95 as far as VA 644 interchange. And I-95
is signed along I-395 at least to a point NE of Edsall Road where
there are ramps between a center roadway (a reversable HOV lane?) and
the outer roadways. Even stranger, the center roadway/HOV lane is shown
in blue to these ramps then changes to pink while the outer roadways
are shown in pink only from the Beltway inward.

>So not only is mapsonus.com no more accurate than other online maps but it
>fails terribly in color coding the highways.

I've been following many of the mapping sites for quite some time
(including a few that no longer exist or now use Mapquest maps rather than
their own) and I find they all have mistakes, some are better than others
in certain areas (Mapquest better than Mapsonus in DC for example) but
the reverse is true elsewhere. Some of the "mistakes" are useful for
finding old routes or former state highway designations.

Mapsonus.com also has a _very_ useful (to me) feature where you can click
on a road/item and it will show its name/number.

I suspect all these online maps were "farmed out" to third world countries
for going from maps/map scans to creating the databases that can create a
map for anywhere, and the quality of the data entered by these people
(almost certainly unfamiliar with US roads) varies greatly. I suspect it
was "farmed out" to a cheap labor source because it must be very labor
intensive to create a database of all the US roads.

-Mike

SPUI

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Sep 13, 2002, 2:47:38 PM9/13/02
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"Michael Moroney" <mor...@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message
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>
> I've been following many of the mapping sites for quite some time
> (including a few that no longer exist or now use Mapquest maps rather than
> their own) and I find they all have mistakes, some are better than others
> in certain areas (Mapquest better than Mapsonus in DC for example) but
> the reverse is true elsewhere. Some of the "mistakes" are useful for
> finding old routes or former state highway designations.

Expedia often shows the old route like if it had an OLD banner.


Steve

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Sep 13, 2002, 2:53:41 PM9/13/02
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Brian Polidoro wrote:
>
> **** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com ****
>
> Sorry but mapsonus.com sucks. First the small stuff: They had the I-270 /
> MD 118 interchange wrong. They still show it as a full cloverleaf. It
> hasn't been that way for at least 6 years. Mapquest and yahoo have that
> right. Another is it still shows MD 124 as going through old town
> Gaithersburg instead of going around it. Mapquest and Yahoo actually show
> MD 124 doing both if you look close enough to old town Gaithersburg. Here's
> one Yahoo got wrong: It shows Father Hurley Boulevard as continuous through
> Germantown. But currently it is not because it doesn't cross the CSX
> railine yet. Also Yahoo still shows MD 121 south of MD 117 which is wrong.
> And Yahoo still shows MD 28 on Darnestown Road in the Hunting Hill area
> when it was moved to Key West Ave a few years back.
>

The ultimate in Mapquest suckage:
New ramps around NJ 4/NJ 17:
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?size=big&mapdata=cbPRZSKSHGTVoI2RT5nZy7IkvHP70aCrIw5%2bwBGMGH0FGcEeag2Ysf1JEwqzdUEu%2fjqo4DaMxzqF21iAaB%2bZy20Y7pwHjo%2fpmyJVWRVScfxPDns2r%2fuzrUi5ELWuGVtZtwKDZHJrp9v%2b1Fc1lpy2sFNTRimHCGCt7WXDB%2fT2sezw1hUroUTsPHYrZL7Q1kHX93wmyFtLMtQG58S3DcVB9WLeeR7mkDhYRmj5KxtEosEojLmszHc1drF33QlRGekQv4eA7r4oeZIqB6%2blaZzV0HDNgtVB3mZt
Old ramps (small cloverleaf):
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?zoom=10&mapdata=cbPRZSKSHGTVoI2RT5nZy7IkvHP70aCrIw5%2bwBGMGH0FGcEeag2Ysf1JEwqzdUEu%2fjqo4DaMxzqF21iAaB%2bZy114Rzd2wmm%2fpy35Qx1ggHAFrHVzkU1ljdS9zbdICFZIZsiGn3vnQWO%2fGUcRpmZt9PwrIVhejnIbgR6ZW5ffT%2bqlwrVvtPiWPAa%2fDiLgco3NHbnzFpTfOQXnP1sNyZ%2flDz80mmTqDfKCLqNZJMYyjunNqQm%2fwEcVzRPkrt8mcDxbDHfvXxKVyxkX%2bMXmp46NZJ%2bVVNua6Cab
(you need a netscape account for that - you can use your AIM info
though, that's what I do)

It would be nice to not have discrepancies between maps and overheads,
so that people don't have to guess at roads existing or not.

--
Steve from New Jersey
GO YANKEES!
Civil Engineering (Course 1) at MIT

Paul

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Sep 13, 2002, 8:40:23 PM9/13/02
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> A quick look at it and I'd say it's not even close.
>
> Jacksonville, FL missing at least one segment of 9A (It looks like there
> are 2 missing to me)
> Orlando, FL where is SR 429? 417 is close but is missing a couple
pieces.


SR9A is not complete yet. Just south of SR10, SR9A empties onto St. Johns
Bluff Rd and you go south on St. Johns Bluff Rd to the intersection with
SR202 where SR9A resumes as limited access to US1. SR9A from US1 to I-95 is
under construction. Eventually SR9A and I-295 will form a loop around
Jacksonville.

See this link (note you will have to do some scrolling):
http://www11.myflorida.com/publicinformationoffice/construc/district2pio/cou
nties/duval.htm

See this site for more on SR429:
www.expresswayauthority.com

Paul

Paul

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"Paul" <driverno29@don'temailme.net> wrote in message
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>
> See this link (note you will have to do some scrolling):
>
http://www11.myflorida.com/publicinformationoffice/construc/district2pio/cou
> nties/duval.htm

http://www11.myflorida.com/publicinformationoffice/construc/district2pio/cou
nties/duval.htm

Had a bad setting on my news reader that split the link over two lines and
made it useless. Hopefully this one is better.

Paul

Steve

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Sep 13, 2002, 10:49:14 PM9/13/02
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No, but we can cut and paste.

SPUI

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"Paul" <driverno29@don'temailme.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Daniel Davis" <plane...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3d81f2e3$1...@news.newsgroups.com...
> > A quick look at it and I'd say it's not even close.
> >
> > Jacksonville, FL missing at least one segment of 9A (It looks like there
> > are 2 missing to me)
> > Orlando, FL where is SR 429? 417 is close but is missing a couple
> pieces.
>
> SR9A is not complete yet. Just south of SR10, SR9A empties onto St. Johns
> Bluff Rd and you go south on St. Johns Bluff Rd to the intersection with
> SR202 where SR9A resumes as limited access to US1. SR9A from US1 to I-95 is
> under construction. Eventually SR9A and I-295 will form a loop around
> Jacksonville.

Mapsonus does not show the part between US 1 and 202.


Jean-Luc Manigat

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Sep 14, 2002, 3:10:11 PM9/14/02
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On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 04:40:35 -0400, Raneman-GR wrote:

> MapsOnUs.Com so far is more accurate and Mapquest is not even close.
> Also just tried Yahoo and it is better than Mapquest.

Did MapsOnUs recently overhaul its interface? It's way different than the
last time I went there, and I could have sworn that was only last week.

Anyway, US-75 hasn't been going through Crookston, MN since at least 1999,
but neither Yahoo! Maps or Mapquest reflect that (and I'm not sure
MapsOnUS did before their facelift).

Personally, I the way Yahoo! Maps look, and I like Mapquest for their
aerial photos (although now you need a Netscape uid, grrr). I find
MapsOnUs' navigation features really interesting, but their new maps are
just plain ugly.

JL

Marc

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Sep 14, 2002, 7:33:59 PM9/14/02
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I got driving directions from my place to my sister's place.

Mapsonus.com:
7.1 miles. Tells me to turn on a road that doesn't intersect. (IOW,
I wouldn't get there with the directions). These directions also have
me get off and on the road, have the wrong street names, and takes a
less than optimal path to just go in a straight line.

Mapquest.com:
"The location you entered cannot be routed, because it is not close
enough to a road. Please try modifying your location."

Maps.Yahoo.com:
8.7 miles. Also takes me down a road that does not exist at that
point. It also is the longest because it knew to avoid the wrong turn
of Maps on Us, but it still sent me down a missing road.

So the winner is:
None of them. No matter which I used, the results were all useless.
Maps on us fails at the most convenient point, so it would get a nod
there, but it had the obvious flaws of wrong names and poor directions
to go in a straight line.

Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"

Alice Cabrera

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In rec.autos.driving Jean-Luc Manigat <jma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
: Personally, I the way Yahoo! Maps look, and I like Mapquest for their

Personally, I can't understand why people like Yahoo. I think it looks
ugly and not only that it only gives you a vague overview of hte map that
you can't really see the details and no step by step instructions with
detailed close ins on the map of each turn or a way to close in on
certain parts of the map even so you can see more detail on a certain turn
you are supposed to take (and the map is so far awya plenty of turns do
need more detail).

Daniel Davis

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"Paul" <driverno29@don'temailme.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Daniel Davis" <plane...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3d81f2e3$1...@news.newsgroups.com...
> > A quick look at it and I'd say it's not even close.
> >
> > Jacksonville, FL missing at least one segment of 9A (It looks like
there
> > are 2 missing to me)
> > Orlando, FL where is SR 429? 417 is close but is missing a couple
> pieces.
>
>
> SR9A is not complete yet. Just south of SR10, SR9A empties onto St. Johns
> Bluff Rd and you go south on St. Johns Bluff Rd to the intersection with
> SR202 where SR9A resumes as limited access to US1. SR9A from US1 to I-95
is
> under construction. Eventually SR9A and I-295 will form a loop around
> Jacksonville.

Oh I know, I have a small website with maps/images for it. I was referring
to the segments south of JTB. At least one site is missing both and I've
yet to see one that includes the segment from Baymeadows to Philips Highway.

Daniel

Dan Bock

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Alice Cabrera <tig...@havoc.gtf.org> wrote in message news:<am1aff$f1e$1...@news-int.gatech.edu>...

> In rec.autos.driving Jean-Luc Manigat <jma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> : Personally, I the way Yahoo! Maps look, and I like Mapquest for their
>
> Personally, I can't understand why people like Yahoo. I think it looks
> ugly and not only that it only gives you a vague overview of hte map that
> you can't really see the details and no step by step instructions with
> detailed close ins on the map of each turn or a way to close in on
> certain parts of the map even so you can see more detail on a certain turn
> you are supposed to take (and the map is so far awya plenty of turns do
> need more detail).


There are a lot of things to love about Yahoo maps. Its best feature
is navigability. When it gives you directions, right under the
directions are input fields where you can ask for directions to/from
other places. The fields are pre-filled with the addresses you've
already entered. On other sites, you have to click a few times just to
get to a place where you can ask for directions again, and even then,
if you want to leave one of the addresses the same as before, you have
to re-enter it.

Also, pages load much faster on Yahoo than they do on other map sites.
Other map sites have lots of little images to load so the page looks
pretty. Yahoo doesn't mess around with that.

C.R. Hinners

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lwt...@excite.com (Dan Bock) wrote:
> Also, pages load much faster on Yahoo than they do on other map
> sites.

Hmm. On Expedia maps, when you pan or zoom the map, only the map
refreshes, rather than the entire page. On Yahoo, the whole page
refreshes, which means you have to scroll back down to the map. Pan,
scroll. Zoom, scroll. Talk about annoying.

If you want to see something funny, on Yahoo, search for "Ten Oaks
Rd" in "Clarksville Md". It will tell you it can't find the street,
but--without panning the map--zoom to at least level 3.

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