fun stuff - dvd - 802.11g
Alvin Oga
hi ya
i've been playing with various new toys/widgets for next year
i've just gotten the distro to recognize the Netgear WG311 pci
802.11g card ( have a linksys card too but havent tested it yet )
- note that its "g" 54Mbps ... vs the slower 802.11[a/b]
- i got it working with the athros drivers from madwifi
http://www.sourceforge.net/madwifi
- now the trick is to setup another box just like it
and the two machines should be able to talk to each other
over 802.11g ...
- differences in various wireless stuff
http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Wireless/#Sniffers
- not that WEP is NOT secure ... ( its been cracked )
and the other fun stuff... i just bought my first dvd .. w/out having
a player or system setup ...
- played w/ ogle, xine, mplayer, few others..
- after a few hours of fiddling ( installing various packages )
- "dvd player" is now working .. so now i need a new set of
real speakers and real audio amps
- dvd stuff that ws installed
http://www.Linux-Video.net/DVD
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alvin
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David Z Maze
> i've just gotten the distro to recognize the Netgear WG311 pci
> 802.11g card ( have a linksys card too but havent tested it yet )
>
> - note that its "g" 54Mbps ... vs the slower 802.11[a/b]
Nitpicking, 802.11a is also advertised as 54mbps, but runs on a
different frequency than 802.11b/g. So on a mixed b/g network, you
can wind up with the g clients slowing down to b rates to accomodate
the slower hosts; since 802.11a runs on a separate frequency, it
always runs at full speed. I also know there are some
interoperability problems with 802.11g (I had trouble earlier this
summer trying to use a Dell-brand 802.11b card vs. some big-name
802.11g APs), but those might be cleaned up with newer hardware.
The downside of 802.11a under Linux is that
> - i got it working with the athros drivers from madwifi
> http://www.sourceforge.net/madwifi
there's only one manufacturer of 802.11a chipsets (Atheros), and one
driver for it, which works well enough for most purposes but isn't
DFSG-free.
> - now the trick is to setup another box just like it
> and the two machines should be able to talk to each other
> over 802.11g ...
I don't know whether things besides 802.11b support "ad-hoc"
networking. But access points are comparatively cheap these days, and
they pretty much all advertise 802.11g support.
> - not that WEP is NOT secure ... ( its been cracked )
Google-search for "end to end argument"; this doesn't concern me
terribly (though my housemates think I shouldn't have a completely
open 802.11b AP).
> and the other fun stuff... i just bought my first dvd .. w/out having
> a player or system setup ...
> - played w/ ogle, xine, mplayer, few others..
>
> - after a few hours of fiddling ( installing various packages )
>
> - "dvd player" is now working .. so now i need a new set of
> real speakers and real audio amps
Which software package did you wind up using?
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Alvin Oga
hi ya david
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, David Z Maze wrote:
> Alvin Oga <ao...@ns.Linux-Consulting.com> writes:
>
> > i've just gotten the distro to recognize the Netgear WG311 pci
> > 802.11g card ( have a linksys card too but havent tested it yet )
> >
> > - note that its "g" 54Mbps ... vs the slower 802.11[a/b]
>
> Nitpicking, 802.11a is also advertised as 54mbps, but runs on a
> different frequency than 802.11b/g. So on a mixed b/g network, you
> can wind up with the g clients slowing down to b rates to accomodate
> the slower hosts; since 802.11a runs on a separate frequency, it
> always runs at full speed. I also know there are some
> interoperability problems with 802.11g (I had trouble earlier this
> summer trying to use a Dell-brand 802.11b card vs. some big-name
> 802.11g APs), but those might be cleaned up with newer hardware.
yup..
but i wanna try to make my own AP too .. for the cost of a PC
instead of buying a ready made linksys/netgear for $150 - $250 ..
- silly huh ..
- new challenges are fun sometimes
> The downside of 802.11a under Linux is that
>
> > - i got it working with the athros drivers from madwifi
> > http://www.sourceforge.net/madwifi
>
> there's only one manufacturer of 802.11a chipsets (Atheros), and one
> driver for it, which works well enough for most purposes but isn't
> DFSG-free.
i'm only worried about 802.11g ...
while 802.11a runs 54Mbps, its also running "regulated" and has
problems going thru walls/building/glass ???
i'm gonna be going into multiple floor environment, and trying to
avoid the internal rewiring of the building ( especially between floors )
differences between a/b/g
http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Wireless/
> > - now the trick is to setup another box just like it
> > and the two machines should be able to talk to each other
> > over 802.11g ...
>
> I don't know whether things besides 802.11b support "ad-hoc"
> networking. But access points are comparatively cheap these days, and
> they pretty much all advertise 802.11g support.
me neither... am just getting on the wireless bandwagon ... :-)
- fromt what i gathered, 802.11g is the way to go for us...
since we dont need to worry about backward compatibility
but do have to worry about going between floors of the building
> > - not that WEP is NOT secure ... ( its been cracked )
>
> Google-search for "end to end argument"; this doesn't concern me
> terribly (though my housemates think I shouldn't have a completely
> open 802.11b AP).
.. dont tell the spammers where you live :-)
- we wouldnt want them to send the spam and than disappear
from down the street
> > and the other fun stuff... i just bought my first dvd .. w/out having
> > a player or system setup ...
> > - played w/ ogle, xine, mplayer, few others..
> >
> > - after a few hours of fiddling ( installing various packages )
> >
> > - "dvd player" is now working .. so now i need a new set of
> > real speakers and real audio amps
>
> Which software package did you wind up using?
i'm using ogle and goggles for its gui
- xine and others would not compile on the distro i tested (
suse-9.0pro ) -- for a customer
- mplayer is what we use now for all mpeg and mpeg4
but it didnt work with the one test dvd i got
- i just tried xmms under slackware-9.1 and it too crashed
- havent tried under sid/woody/testing/... yet
( just have 2 fingers .. :-)
thanx
alvin
Nate Duehr
> but i wanna try to make my own AP too .. for the cost of a PC
> instead of buying a ready made linksys/netgear for $150 - $250 ..
> - silly huh ..
> - new challenges are fun sometimes
Agreed that new challenges are fun, but you haven't shopped lately for the
AP's. They're more like US$60 with rebates and US$70 without at most online
outlets.
Just letting you know so you don't waste money if you're going for cheap "get
it done" vs. fun.
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Alvin Oga
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Nate Duehr wrote:
> On Friday 12 December 2003 09:57 am, Alvin Oga wrote:
>
> > but i wanna try to make my own AP too .. for the cost of a PC
> > instead of buying a ready made linksys/netgear for $150 - $250 ..
> > - silly huh ..
> > - new challenges are fun sometimes
>
> Agreed that new challenges are fun, but you haven't shopped lately for the
> AP's. They're more like US$60 with rebates and US$70 without at most online
> outlets.
>
> Just letting you know so you don't waste money if you're going for cheap "get
> it done" vs. fun.
am looking for "how to build [secure] 802.11g access points" vs commercial
off the street boxes that everybody knows how to break into
- its not a $$$ issue vs fun ...
- i already bought one of them $150 linksys ap
- usually dont buy anyting online ... or even locally unless i can
see it first and read the fine print which nowdayz just says
"made in taiwan" and no other info like what chipset it uses
c ya
alvin