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Slinky

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Jun 3, 2001, 12:27:24 PM6/3/01
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I almost bought a new pair of Salomon skates, for me the best fitting
skates. However, after looking suspiciously at the Twincam frame that
actually fuses two metals together, i did some research. While there
weren't many, there were enough people talking about a rattling sound
that is made which they suspect is as a result of the two metals being
riveted together. Makes sense. What makes more sense to me is that you
wouldn't want to combine two metals together, but keep it as one
single piece to make the frame stiffer and more stable.

I'm now holding off on buying the Salomon Magnesium or Mag Elites,
which is a real bummer because I really would like to get a new skate.
What are your experiences?


Bob Cardone

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Jun 3, 2001, 4:14:25 PM6/3/01
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Slinky <ne...@quickdirect.com> wrote:


Twincam makes frames?


Bob

Ken Leung

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Jun 3, 2001, 5:03:41 PM6/3/01
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"Slinky" <ne...@quickdirect.com> wrote in message
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"Twin driver"
I don't think it matters that much though... Try them on, skate for a while
and see it yourself :)


Ken Leung

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Jun 3, 2001, 5:17:15 PM6/3/01
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"Bob Cardone" <cardone!@!mindspring.com> wrote in message
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They don't and I'm assuming you know about it, given the fact that you're
up-to-date in the skating industry.

It's called "twin driver", Salomon snap a magnesium and aluminum frame
together. Check it out if you want,
http://www.salomoninline.com/speed/us/mgaluchassis.asp

As far as I remember, hyper does make 5 wheel frames...


Slinky

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Jun 3, 2001, 8:51:24 PM6/3/01
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Oh yeah, it's also "twinmetal" on their web site. Crap, I hate
marketers and I'm beginning to think that they are worse than anything
else. I tried on the skates in the store. They feel great, just don't
want to be the noisiest skater on the loop... it just seems like a
really silly idea.

On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 21:03:41 GMT, "Ken Leung" <kenl...@home.com>
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Bob Cardone

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Jun 3, 2001, 9:21:41 PM6/3/01
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"Ken Leung" <kenl...@home.com> wrote:

>
>They don't and I'm assuming you know about it, given the fact that you're
>up-to-date in the skating industry.
>
>It's called "twin driver", Salomon snap a magnesium and aluminum frame
>together. Check it out if you want,
>http://www.salomoninline.com/speed/us/mgaluchassis.asp
>
>As far as I remember, hyper does make 5 wheel frames...
>


Someone said the frame was made by "Twincam". I was questioning that
because it seems highly unlikely that a bearing manufacturer would
start making skate frames.


Bob

Slinky

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Jun 3, 2001, 10:52:05 PM6/3/01
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Sorry guys it was me caught up in all this marketing BS which I can't
keep straight. It's a twin metal fuse-o-magnesio-supra-matic which is
supposed to take 25% weight off the frame (what is that like maybe an
ounce?) and supposedly clicks. Don't know but I don't understand this
design and am hesitant to buy it even though the boot is amazing.

Eric Edwards

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Jun 3, 2001, 11:59:00 PM6/3/01
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On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 00:51:24 GMT, Slinky <ne...@quickdirect.com> wrote:
>Oh yeah, it's also "twinmetal" on their web site. Crap, I hate
>marketers and I'm beginning to think that they are worse than anything
>else. I tried on the skates in the store. They feel great, just don't
>want to be the noisiest skater on the loop... it just seems like a
>really silly idea.

If it rattles, it's defective. Salomon has replaced twin-metal frames
that came loose under warranty. If the skate in the store rattles, tell
the shop keeper: This is one is defective, bring me another. Repeat
until either you find a good pair or stock runs out. Don't buy one that
rattles.

--
Real courtesy requires human effort and understanding.
Never let your machine or your habit send courtesy copies.

Bob Cardone

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Jun 4, 2001, 6:00:07 AM6/4/01
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ese...@news9.exile.org (Eric Edwards) wrote:

>If it rattles, it's defective. Salomon has replaced twin-metal frames
>that came loose under warranty. If the skate in the store rattles, tell
>the shop keeper: This is one is defective, bring me another. Repeat
>until either you find a good pair or stock runs out. Don't buy one that
>rattles.


Doesn't sound like a good idea to buy something that requires that you
have to do your own quality control in the store, to get a good one.
Tolerances must be pretty sloppy.


Bob

Eric Edwards

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Jun 4, 2001, 6:05:26 PM6/4/01
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It certainly doesn't inspire confidence. But to be fair, it just be an
early manufacturing problem that has long sense been resolved. Stock in
the stores isn't necessarily of recent manufacture.

Ken Leung

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Jun 5, 2001, 12:05:07 AM6/5/01
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> >Doesn't sound like a good idea to buy something that requires that you
> >have to do your own quality control in the store, to get a good one.
> >Tolerances must be pretty sloppy.
>
> It certainly doesn't inspire confidence. But to be fair, it just be an
> early manufacturing problem that has long sense been resolved. Stock in
> the stores isn't necessarily of recent manufacture.

Yeah, I think last year's K2 flight ALX has a pretty serious heel brake
problem when they have to recall it.
Frame rattling is a pretty serious manufacturing problem though *recall for
Salomon this time LOL*


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