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IRC Username Question

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David Brimer

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11.01.1995, 12:52:1211.01.95
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>: I have a question. When you do a /whois on someone, you get NICK
>: US...@HOST.COM (NAME). I know how to change the NICK, and the NAME, but how do
>: you go about changing what it says for USER? I know it can be done, you see

>This is something that your are not supposed to do.

I'm not trying to sound obnoxious or anything, I am just curious. If it is
so "bad" to do this, then how come programs like WSIRC simply let you do it
with the click of a button?
I guess maybe I am asking the wrong question here. HOW does WSIRC change
it, then? All I have to do is click the option and fill in the blank in
there, and I'm set. There must be a slightly easier way to do it with my
shell...And how come there are so MANY people with those ~'s in front of their
name, then? It can't be that hard to do...

Dave

Steven L. Work

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12.01.1995, 10:46:0912.01.95
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David Brimer (Dav...@primenet.com) wrote:

: I guess maybe I am asking the wrong question here. HOW does WSIRC change

: it, then? All I have to do is click the option and fill in the blank in
: there, and I'm set. There must be a slightly easier way to do it with my
: shell...And how come there are so MANY people with those ~'s in front of their
: name, then? It can't be that hard to do...

:
The tilde does not mean that the username is question is fake. On some
servers, a tilde is displayed whenever ident is not run. What the tilde
means is that the username displayed is that supplied by the client
program and not verified by ident. The client program is easier for the
user to fake, because faking the ident information requires root
privileges on your system. The tilde means that the userid is *subject*
to faking, but does not mean that it is fake. Most of the time, users
with tildes are indeed displaying their real usernames. Also, some
servers do not ever display tildes (at their option) regardless of
whether or not ident is run.

When you are running WSIRC from a SLIP connection, I cannot see why it is
wrong for you to display a username of your choice. I understand that
many servers are leery of SLIP connections for this very reason, and you
may be banned from a number of servers simply because you are on a SLIP
account. Also, if improper action (flooding, harrassment, etc.)
originates from anywhere on your system, you will probably find your
entire system essentially cut off from irc. Even though you may be
totally innocent. Servers ban entire systems if they have difficulty
determining the identities of individual users reliably.

As to the right/wrong of faking your userid: it is generally accepted
that this is not entirely correct to do on irc. Many servers have
policies against it, and some systems (not all) do threaten to pull user
accounts for doing this. But as a practical matter, if you can get away
with it, it's basically OK. However, if you are deliberately
impersonating another user, flooding, or harrassing, it is likely that
access to irc will be cut off for either you individually or your entire
site.

Bob

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12.01.1995, 11:24:4312.01.95
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David Brimer (Dav...@primenet.com) wrote:
: >: I have a question. When you do a /whois on someone, you get NICK

The tilde (~) in front of people's usernames is inserted by the server. It
is NOT something they have done themselves. While it is possible to hack
your username, it is unethical, and not allowed on most servers.

-Bob

Terrence Y. Chay

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13.01.1995, 07:35:2713.01.95
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fla...@catt.ncsu.edu (James Manning) writes:

>1) I think (if I can remember) it's edit.c in the ircII client...

REALLY?

>2) you don't need to be able to program... just ftp ;)

and the ALMIGHTY grep.
terry chay

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