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mooch

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Nov 17, 2001, 1:47:25 PM11/17/01
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>99% of the fun of
> watching Iron Chef is the intensity the Japanese cast gives the show.we
> will loose all the passion that was so much apart of the Japaneese
> version..the US host will be..check this,William Shatner!

Perhaps. In my opinion 100% of the fun is not to watch it at all! I like
cooking shows, but for the life of me can't understand the appeal of this
concept. Competetive cooking? Why? And, yes, God help us anytime we have
to watch Shatner.

Default User

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Nov 17, 2001, 2:14:57 PM11/17/01
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logikal nonsense wrote:
>
> Unfortunately in most cases when a great foren TV migrated to a US
> version is falls way below the original and I'm predicting the US version
> on the great Iron Chef will fall into this category..99% of the fun of

> watching Iron Chef is the intensity the Japanese cast gives the show.we
> will loose all the passion that was so much apart of the Japaneese
> version..the US host will be..check this,William Shatner!

They've been ripping the show to shreds on rec.arts.tv.


Brian

Judith Moore

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Nov 17, 2001, 4:20:33 PM11/17/01
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>Unfortunately in most cases when a great foren TV migrated to a US
>version is falls way below the original and I'm predicting the US version
>on the great Iron Chef will fall into this category..

<snip>

Why condemn in advance? "Iron Chef" isn't a cooking show. It's like wrestling.
You know it's not real, but the enjoyment is in the showmanship (I gather).
It's for fun. Enjoy.

Virginia Tadrzynski

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Nov 17, 2001, 4:48:31 PM11/17/01
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My complaint is the use of William Shatner. Shatner should stay with his
character from 3rd Rock from the Sun.......from what I've read about him
over the years, his character's name in 3rd really fits him.......he was
'Great Big Head'.
-Ginny


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> Unfortunately in most cases when a great foren TV migrated to a US
> version is falls way below the original and I'm predicting the US version

> on the great Iron Chef will fall into this category..99% of the fun of
> watching Iron Chef is the intensity the Japanese cast gives the show.we
> will loose all the passion that was so much apart of the Japaneese
> version..the US host will be..check this,William Shatner!
>

> The 4 Iron Chefs are: Todd English, Iron Chef American; Jean Francois
> Meteigner, Iron Chef French; Alessandro Stratta, Iron Chef Italian; and
> Roy Yamaguchi is Iron Chef Asian.
>
> Link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/11/16/214209


wej3715

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Nov 17, 2001, 5:10:04 PM11/17/01
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logikal nonsense (oddj...@lycos.com) wrote:
: The 4 Iron Chefs are: Todd English, Iron Chef American; Jean Francois
: Meteigner, Iron Chef French; Alessandro Stratta, Iron Chef Italian; and
: Roy Yamaguchi is Iron Chef Asian.

No Billy Bob - Iron Chef Texan?

I wonder who gets to compete in the Rocky Mountain Oyster
competition.

Eric Johnson

Puester

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Nov 17, 2001, 5:33:54 PM11/17/01
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Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:
>
> My complaint is the use of William Shatner. Shatner should stay with his
> character from 3rd Rock from the Sun.......from what I've read about him
> over the years, his character's name in 3rd really fits him.......he was
> 'Great Big Head'.
> -Ginny

Hmmmm, wasn't that "Big Giant Head"?

gloria p
who could never decide whether that show was
more offensive or funny

John

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Nov 18, 2001, 5:31:58 AM11/18/01
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They're a big deal out here in Colo. in some circles. BUT my question is
what celebrity panel would you get to TASTE them??? LMAO
John
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sd

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Nov 18, 2001, 1:37:45 PM11/18/01
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In article <20011117162033...@mb-da.news.cs.com>,
judg...@cs.com (Judith Moore) wrote:

> Why condemn in advance? "Iron Chef" isn't a cooking show. It's like
> wrestling.
> You know it's not real, but the enjoyment is in the showmanship (I
> gather).
> It's for fun. Enjoy

Yes, there's a competitive slant to Iron Chef, and the play-by-play
aspect (IMHO) is worth some chuckles. It's far from perfect, too (a
fortune-teller as food critic?). But they concentrate on the cooking.
Face it, if you weren't interested in cooking to begin with, you
wouldn't sit through an hour of IC watching people mince and fry and
plate dishes. Unless you got to eat at the end. :-) You don't see
Japanese Iron Chefs tossing cans of caviar up to the announcing booth or
being the subject of name-dropping "guess who he worked with at the
pizza joint?"

On the original IC, I find it interesting to see different treatments
for ingredients which frequently are rare in America. The food is
treated as the reason they are there. ICUSA reminded me of an XFL match.
Now I can appreciate the original IC even more as a cooking show.

As for Shatner, I can't imagine a better American actor to portray the
"I'm-so-full-of-myself" Kaga. The man must be a parody of himself. Who
better than Shatner, who seems absolutely unafraid to do it?
 

wej3715

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Nov 18, 2001, 2:49:57 PM11/18/01
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John (john...@earthlink.net) wrote:
: They're a big deal out here in Colo. in some circles. BUT my question is

: what celebrity panel would you get to TASTE them??? LMAO

Compared to some of the things on the show, I'd rather
eat the Rocky Mountain Oysters. But I'm not a celebrity.

The tough part would be to use it as the highlight in
every dish on the menu.

Let's see:

Rocky Mountain Oyster salad?
Rocky Mountain Osyter soup?
Rocky Mountain Oyster ice cream?
Rocky Mountain Oyster based marinara sauce?
Rocky Mountain Oyster sushi?

It would be an interesting show.

Eric Johnson

MH

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Nov 19, 2001, 8:32:21 PM11/19/01
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mooch <mooch...@home.com> wrote in message
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I watched this abysmal excuse for television and it was HORRIBLE!!!!!! It
wasn't even S.B.I.G. (So Bad It's Good), it was just bad.

>
>


blake murphy

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Nov 20, 2001, 5:59:04 AM11/20/01
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i saw the 'showdown in las vegas' thing and thought it was pretty
funny. is this about how it works on the food channel?

your pal,
blake

Kim M

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Nov 20, 2001, 1:58:21 PM11/20/01
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"blake murphy" <bla...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> i saw the 'showdown in las vegas' thing and thought it was pretty
> funny. is this about how it works on the food channel?

Yes and no. The concept is the same, but the delivery is different.
Both are campy, but the original pulls it off *so* much better. The
focus is on food and the judges/announcers actually seem to know what
they're talking about. Well with the exception of the BDJ - although
they also take it seriously.

Actually, I think the "taking it seriously" part is what is missing from
Iron Chef USA. The original seems very campy to us, but the chefs (and
viewers) took it quite seriously. Losing and winning were actually
important. In the Iron Chef book, one of the former chefs talked about
his children getting teased in school when he lost.

Whoever was in charge of the US version focused on the "camp" and
completely missed the point.

Kim


st...@temple.edu

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Nov 20, 2001, 3:46:17 PM11/20/01
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Kim M <ki...@warped.com> wrote:
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> Whoever was in charge of the US version focused on the "camp" and
> completely missed the point.

I agree. ICUS was just plain tacky. In the USA version, the chefs
were more like those actors on the wrestling matches. In the original,
the Iron Chefs had little or not interaction with the announcers and
the audience; they were too busy actually cooking.

st...@temple.edu

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Nov 20, 2001, 3:47:03 PM11/20/01
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Virginia Tadrzynski <ta...@enter.net> wrote:
> My complaint is the use of William Shatner. Shatner should stay with his
> character from 3rd Rock from the Sun.......from what I've read about him
> over the years, his character's name in 3rd really fits him.......he was

Huh? Shatner was never on 3rd Rock from the Sun, as far as I know.
You're probably thinking of Star Trek.

st...@temple.edu

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Nov 20, 2001, 3:47:59 PM11/20/01
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John <john...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> They're a big deal out here in Colo. in some circles. BUT my question is
> what celebrity panel would you get to TASTE them??? LMAO

Restaurant critics from the major newspapers would be interesting.

Default User

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Nov 20, 2001, 6:11:43 PM11/20/01
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The IMDB is your friend.

http://us.imdb.com/Name?Shatner,+William


Look at entries 7-9 of Guest Appearances.


Brian

Ladyvmh2000

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Nov 20, 2001, 7:27:53 PM11/20/01
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He did a couple of guest shots on 3rd rock.
Vickie

ari...@pepper.eajenkins.earthlink.net

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Nov 20, 2001, 7:40:54 PM11/20/01
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Yep. He played the role of The Big Giant Head. And he was
pretty funny in it, too.

Ariane

Miche

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Nov 20, 2001, 7:49:27 PM11/20/01
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Yes he was. His character name is Big Giant Head.

Miche

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Michael Edelman

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Nov 21, 2001, 9:26:28 AM11/21/01
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st...@temple.edu wrote:

> Kim M <ki...@warped.com> wrote:
> >
> > Whoever was in charge of the US version focused on the "camp" and
> > completely missed the point.
>
> I agree. ICUS was just plain tacky.

What makes the original great is that the camp is entirely unintentional.
SNL did a marvelous satire of Iron Chef that captured the spirit
perfectly.As I recall, the panel included an actress and a serial killer
;-)

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MH

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Nov 21, 2001, 9:33:02 AM11/21/01
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<st...@temple.edu> wrote in message news:9tefg7$1ue$2...@cronkite.temple.edu...

Nope, he was on Third Rock, a show so abysmal that he was almost funny on
it.

Regina Holt

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Nov 21, 2001, 4:04:30 PM11/21/01
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Re: [Iron Chef] US version

Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Tue, Nov 20, 2001, 8:47pm (EST+5) From:
st...@temple.edu
(snip)

Huh? Shatner was never on 3rd Rock from the Sun, as far as I know.
You're probably thinking of Star Trek.
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Indeed, Shatner was cast in the recurring role of the Big Giant Head.
BGH's Earth name was Stone Phillips. He had a thing for Albright, and
fathered a baby with Dubchek's daughter. Among other things.
gina

st...@temple.edu

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Nov 25, 2001, 7:47:28 AM11/25/01
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Ah! Right. I stand corrected.

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