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[Snort-users] 1.9.0 and "Unknown Datagram decoding problem"

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Jason Haar

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Oct 8, 2002, 5:10:03 PM10/8/02
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On our network, this alert is triggering every time our SNMP network
management server talks to any host over our VPN. It appears to be matching
on UDP SNMP frags (exp: with VPNs, you tend to see a LOT more fragged
traffic than "normal" networks).

Any timeframe for either fixing this or being able to disable it?

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Erek Adams

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Oct 8, 2002, 5:35:07 PM10/8/02
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On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Jason Haar wrote:

> On our network, this alert is triggering every time our SNMP network
> management server talks to any host over our VPN. It appears to be matching
> on UDP SNMP frags (exp: with VPNs, you tend to see a LOT more fragged
> traffic than "normal" networks).

Hrm... It seems that it's not from SNMP but from an ICMP_DEST_UNREACHABLE or
ICMP_REDIRECT.

If you have it, I'd suggest grabbing a pcap of some of those packets and then
building a debug version of snort. Enable debugging in the decoder and then
run the pcap thru it to track down what it's really doing.

> Any timeframe for either fixing this or being able to disable it?

With the right info, you should be able to write a BPF filter to drop the
packets that are causing it for now.

Cheers!

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Chris Green

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Oct 8, 2002, 7:40:48 PM10/8/02
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Erek Adams <er...@theadamsfamily.net> writes:

> On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Jason Haar wrote:
>
>> On our network, this alert is triggering every time our SNMP network
>> management server talks to any host over our VPN. It appears to be matching
>> on UDP SNMP frags (exp: with VPNs, you tend to see a LOT more fragged
>> traffic than "normal" networks).
>

Please give me a pcap of the traffic that it is generating alerts on.
I made the default "we don't know how to decode this or we screwed up
decoding", do a bit more verbosity rather than the ErrorMessages() it
used to do.

In the meantime,

config disable_decode_alerts

in your snort.conf will help.

> Hrm... It seems that it's not from SNMP but from an ICMP_DEST_UNREACHABLE or
> ICMP_REDIRECT.
>
> If you have it, I'd suggest grabbing a pcap of some of those packets and then
> building a debug version of snort. Enable debugging in the decoder and then
> run the pcap thru it to track down what it's really doing.
>
>> Any timeframe for either fixing this or being able to disable it?
>
> With the right info, you should be able to write a BPF filter to drop the
> packets that are causing it for now.
>
> Cheers!
>
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> Erek Adams
> Nifty-Type-Guy
> TheAdamsFamily.Net
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